She never did Don’t love those boys either If she did we would not be here There’s no way with the hatred she still has for Dan and the fact she never bonded with the boys either The boys are better off with none of these losers in their lives This family sucks
Wendi will give a serious Damn if Ch starts talking after Donna gets convicted and sentenced. He can send his sister away for sixty years and get his sentence revised (in theory - practically it 's rather difficult as his sentence would have to be vacated and he'd have to be resentenced on the basis of second degree murder, which he was not convicted of ...) . He might be able to arrange for Donna to go to a nice prison near Miami. The DOJ would never admit that but such things do happen. TE. Fidler
@@mjlives5428 Exactly so. She received some emails from Don but it seems was sensible enough to not reply. I fact she likely give her mother a lecture about not sending any more. Go to the am of the 18th. It appears she gave Ch the details from the Dan markel voicemail. However there's no evidence the Ch did anything with them. HOwever at 11:15 am he rings KM in a very short call . That would be exactly the right time to find out whether SG had rung KM if Dan had left Premier on time and SG had killed him at home. My unproven theory is that SG was supposed to ring KM immediately post the hit once they were a few km away (say 10) to tell her that it had happened. Ch could then warn Wendi in one of two ways. That would all make a lot of sense. I also suggests that SG has a second instruction sheet for the second attempt. When you realise that Rivera went the other way at the intersection onto Trescott so he would meet Dan head on - it suggests a much greater level of planning than SG is capable of. The relative distances down the road to Dan's house need to be known and even driven down to make sure there are no issues, I would have thought. Remember too that Rivera knew that Dan was leaving town (to go to NY). I expect that CH could fill in on when he heard that to pass on. TE.Fidler
Right? I bet he would give anything now to come home from work to his 37 year old girlfriend and her kid that farts in his face😂😂That not in a million years attitude has been wiped from his smug face😊
No Victoria Secret Model would give Charlie a second glance. Most VS model make more money than Charlie ever could and are intelligent women….doesn’t matter if they are 18 or 37 or older….not one of them would find Charlie to be good looking, intelligent, interesting etc. He is so gross. I hope Wendy has listened to every single phone call.
A 37 year old Victoria's Secret model can have anyone they want from a 22 year old Abercrombie and Fitch model to an older billionaire, Charlie is NOT on their radar lol!!
What a puke! How vain can a person be!? He's bashing a 37 year old and trying to convince Wendy her bfriend is too old for her and nobody's gonna want her cuz she has 2 kids yet he dated Katie who was certainly no model and had 2 kids AND a psycho ex! This dude deserves what he got!
@astrialindah2773 her lawyers said to stay away. She knows that as at lawyer. I think it's her plan to get rid of all of them...she's psychopathic...planned all the way
@@astrialindah2773 If Wendi has listened to any of this stuff she's heard Chucky talk about the drive by as lighting house fire and coming back to see it burn down. THat's hugely incriminating even if it was a semi throwaway statement. GC is going to bring that up at the next two trials....
They just want to be puppeteers, and control everything. But Wendi must like it that way because she thrives on being helpless. Listen to Charlie moaning constantly about working so hard and my one day off a week, again with the victim thing. I thought he was self employed and pretty rich. So he's moaning about his own need for greed.
@@flowerjpotter1629 he is!!! He was not turning down any work, because he wants the money!! most of his calls are about shares, buying things and his boat.
It seems to never cross their mind that she doesn’t want to marry, again, with meddling Mom and Brother. Yet, now that these two are far far away, she might reconsider. Soap Opera 🙄
Donna is! Then gets the idiot son involved! Donna helped pick Danny on JDate for Wendi. So, the next guy dodged a bullet with Donna going to jail/prison soon!
Donna complained about babysitting the boys, yet her whole purpose was taking the boys away from Dan and for Wendi and the boys live by her and Harvey so they could be together
Could say that she was willing to kill to get control of the boys. However at the age that the boys were then, they just felt that the boys could use a father figure now. Just looking out for what is best for the boys I do suppose.
he actually says that women need to be kept poor and desperate and worked to the bone so they can look at guys like him and consider themselves lucky to have the attention of a guy like him. its sick because this is a big reason women really are kept poor and over-worked with the burden of children more than men. They have decided and enacted all the ways to make our value go down while theres goes up.
This family is dangerous. They "selected" Dan for Wendi and it ended with them murdering him and here they are once more like a pack of wolves, painfully trying to "select" Dave for a 37 year old Wendi inspite of her not showing any true love for the Dave. These people are outright dangerous
Donna and Charlie feed one another's self-serving ambitions. No one else would ever keep this ridiculous conversation going this long... And they literally did this every single day.
Every time Donna talks to Charlie, she mentions having Wendi’s boys. Wendi wanted to move back to south Florida so she could dump the boys off on her mother. What an irresponsible, selfish , spoiled brat.
I think she was jealous of Dan and the way he loved those boys. He was so involved he would go over to the daycare and have lunch with them. Yet, tried to create the narrative he was an absentee father 😢😢 When all of his friends and acquaintances said the opposite.. She didn't was always traveling and leaving the boys with sitters.. I swear she had a secret life.. I hope it come out. I hope someone backed up the WhatsApp messages in a cloud..
@@amy7310this is where I am confused - in her mind I think he may have been as it seemed he travelled a lot - but when push comes to shove - he wanted to be with his kids - I’m not sure why they couldn’t do 2-2-3 or one week on or one week off - it seems to me she could not be alone with her children
And Charlie is approaching 50 himself now, yet he was constantly seeking younger women. Including Katie who had kids with Sigfredo. Things that make you go, hmm.🤨
He thinks his income affords him a 19 year old super model. It doesn't. He wasn't getting 8's, 9's, or 10's, but he did get 7's. If he had a working class income he 'd have been lucky to get 4's.
A self proclaimed crime genius to actually believe that he could pull that off and not eventually get his ass busted. Who’d a thunk that the cops can and do tap people’s phones? He had to have missed that episode on Dateline.
Blimey The way Charlie speaks about women is dreadful and Donna be on the call enabling him. I can’t imagine stomaching hearing my child talk about women like this. Donna only ambition is to control her daughters life & use Charlie to do so!
Haha I just thought I only made 9 min!!! Maybe I’ll finish. But he thinks he’s soooo smart and wise!!! Why do the two of them control Wendi?? It’s soo weird. I had two older brothers and I was the baby. This is def strange!!!
I think they were all excited, feeling powerful and on the same page (for different reasons) all through the planning right up until the moment Wendi's sat in back of the police car riding to the station. That's when ii got real and she decided to deviate to save her own hide so as soon she could she spewed up her family and her brother as possible conspirators to the detective in her "I'm just the wide eyed victim here". Special act. Then with her new script the performance became delaying phoning her mother on purpose pretending: Oh thank goodness Mom sounded shocked. Listening to the whole of her time at the police station I didn't catch her imploring the police to please find the killer. Instead it became: My responsibility to work out who has killed Dan. Is that really what a sudden widow would say ? She lamented: Who would do this ? But forgot to insist please you must catch them. I don't remember any: Poor Dan.
He literally says "women need to be kept poor so as they get older and more desperate, they find men like me to be like lottery tickets. Women need to be worked to the bone and kept destitute so the value of Men increases." Im so disgusted, and this is a mindset that more people have then one likes to acknowledge.
This is the man Wendi (the layer who helps victims of S*x slavery). admires the man who spent vacations paying for vulnerable young girls and women to “entertain “ him for pennies. She’s disgusting.
"As you sow, so shall you reap" never had a truer meaning. That's how Donna raised her children, she only has herself to blame for where she is. I couldn't feel more sorry for Dan and his family for having ever crossed their path. Let's hope the law changes to ensure victim parents have guaranteed access to their granchildren and can't be pushed out
@@harleyadams4551 They're adults now, by 40 it's time to take real ownership of their mistakes and responsibilities. Time to own their lives before the midlife crisis sets in.
Wendi a trust fund baby..whatttt ya dont say. She got a lot without working for it. If that doesn't scream wendi is also guilty as hell, I don't know what else does. He literally has said she made out like a bandit because she was lucky. Her having Dan off'd made it to where she made millions of dollars and she has the nerve on the stand to act like she didn't benefit from his death. This whole entire family is disgusting. And the fact that Charlie thinks every man out there is wired how he is when it comes to being in a relationship is laughable 😂 he's gross. They all are gross
If Charlie's outlook on life and relationships are a reflection of Donna's upbringing, listening to him opine and gossip must absolutely stroke her ego.
Talk about delusional, lol. This is the guy who flew to south east Asia to buy under age girls, or at least girls who are far too young for him. Charlie had to pay a small fortune to spend time with them - they weren't beating down his door. And sorry, but, June is no goddess - I don't get why people think she's anything better than nominally pretty. But of course, she's still too good for Charlie.
Can you imagine your brother sitting you down and telling you this is the only person who might ever "choose" you? I wonder if she's listened to this. No wonder she"s distanced herself from them
I can't imagine how Daniel Raschbaum was able to out-con Charlie Adelman and now Donna, convincing them they had/have a chance in view of the evidence. Big payday for a hustler.
Donna keeps saying Dave is a great “dad for these boys.”?!!! This is insane. The boys had a great dad. They keep saying this is “a once in a lifetime opportunity.” Like Wendi just got accepted at Harvard Law. No. They are talking about a guy like he’s “the opportunity.” Ugh.
Putting aside the serious nature of the crime that took place for a moment, what you’re doing with these wiretaps is freaking hilarious!! 😂😂😂 It just cracks me up!
Gigi, you’ve changed my life. I am not a tv watcher, and I’m very picky about what I listen to especially when I sleep. I’m more of a music lover like you. I do not know why and I can’t explain it. But Charley’s audio tapes, especially the ones where he is talking to his mom, are the best source of entertainment for me personally that I’ve ever heard, except for STS podcast and Dateline. Maybe it’s because I grew up poor, and these type of life problems evaded me in many ways. And although he may be silly at times, the details he espouses behind his thought processes intrigues me to no end. I find myself saying, “These people,” often. I can listen to them for hours. This particular one is one of my favorites. Thank you for providing them.
@@eliza-uh1sk Dave Atias is a computer security type of guy but at a fairly high level. It seems he has worked for FBI or similar and now has his own company in that area and I think writes or controls writing of software . He's quite wealthy either by his own efforts or some family money. Anyway he sounds well about Wendi's level - which is the same story that obtained with Dan M. Atias appears to be Jewish, going on the name. Clearly he has charmed Donna too. One wonders where Wendi picked him up....? some Miami party ? Anyway he quit W pretty quickly. There are two fairly likely reasons why. No he was nowhere near the trial.
Interesting to hear Charlie say “well, they had a dad. It’s a tragedy what happened to him.” And Donna is so obsessed with Wendi seeing that Dave is “such a great guy and will be such a great dad to the kids. This is their only opportunity for a dad.”
Too bad these criminals hadn’t had some of their “wisdom” before setting up these children to be fatherless! I wonder if Wendi will be arrested anytime soon!
You are so funny!!! Reading the comments on Adelson drama is getting me through … lol I think we should do a group zoom to all chat about this!!! Lots more to come! There’s Donna’s trial & the Wendi Arrest & maybe Harvey Supeona to testify???
Yep they definitely seem to have an emotionally incestuous relationship. I think that’s why Donna doesn’t mind Charlie’s vapid girlfriends. Because Donna remains the most important woman in C’s life.
Too bad Charlie didn’t “ think progressively” regarding the situation with Dan, he didn’t see how that turned out!!!! Thanks GiGi for keeping us entertained.
His mother runs that household so he goes to the alpha. His father is a low key quiet guy soft spoken man, while Mommy is the Gangsta!! IJS lock Wendy up she was involved just like her mother. RIP Dan Markel🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Wow! You don’t gossip with your mom? All grownup children (gender) doesn’t matter if they have a good relationship with their mom or dad they will talk about family specially if they care for them.
The gall of these degenerates. For instance, imagine if Charlie and Donna hadn't been the murder plotters, but the story about Katie and Sigfredo and Luis doing it on their own, hoping to extort everyone, was actually true. Wouldn't you at least feel responsible for bringing these people into the picture to begin with?? Not Charlie, who says, ''Well, they had a Dad...it's a tragedy what happened.'' As if it was a car accident or a flippin' alien abduction! This piece of garbage was the cause of Dan's death - even if his ridiculous double extortion story was true! And then he acts as though he and Donna are completely in another galaxy of existence.
Yes, and Donna very quickly dismissed him by listing all the qualities that Dave has (as if Danny wasn’t smart, present with his boys, and wanted to be with them)!!
@@AidaShawJ.D. They had NO legitimate complaints about Dan - none. They only despised him because of Wendy's seething envy of him, her own husband, and the fact that Dan stuck up for himself and wasn't Wendy's lap dog. And of course - that Dan had faith in God; not for social reasons, but in reality. Devilish Donna can't have that!
If Charlie is 1/2 as smart as he thinks he is, he will flip on Wendi. Like Charlie said, Wendi won the lottery and how did she win the lottery? She won because of her family and what was done to Dan. He needs to think about where he is and where is Wendi right now. She may be looking over her shoulder but right now she is not sitting in a jail cell. I look forward to the day when Wendi is arrested, it will be a great day. Justice for the Markel’s.
I don’t feel like many things leave speechless but I’m literally sitting her listening to this sickness with my mouth hanging open! Good lord this family is crazy!!!
It's mind boggling isn't it? Those kids had a wonderful Daddy ... and just because Wendy didn't like being so far away from her Mommy ... She didn't like Tally, they MURDERED him? I just don't understand their though processes at all.
D is all praise to king Charles, he is full of bs saying he will not date woman with kids, what about Katie though it is obvious he just used her. This attitude of D makes her son C think he is good and so he can do anything.
I’ll never forget the phone call between Mommy and Dentist Boy, and he told her about how got caught speeding, like over 100mph, with no license and a gun in the car. Talked the cop out of a ticket, showing him his med id. Donna just accepted it, instead of saying, “Are you out of your mind?????” Obvious no boundaries in that family, it was more like, “Hey, whatever you can get away with.
I call BS on that "get out of a ticket" crap... .My husband has been a cop for 30 years and I can tell you that does NOT happen ... An ER Doctor (who isn't) would NOT get any special treatment. "Maybe" another cop might get away with it .. But a flipping doctor? Nooooooooo
Such an underbelly of sibling jealousy that Charlie has for Wendi. Sitting alone in prison Charlie is probably getting angrier and angrier - this is why I predict Charlie will testify against Wendi ! We need full justice for Dan Markel !
Claiming first to Mash the “Like” button XO JaynesWhirled…..of course, not sure what this says about my social life….hehe One of my most fav calls. Here they are meddling again - trying to get W to stay w a guy she doesnt “passionately love.” Thats what started the whole “Markel problem!”
I listened to this very carefully. Charles in some respects was telling the truth in 2016, but today is no longer true. One of the reasons Susan Smith did what she did in Union SC was her new boy toy did not want kids. I might also add that today Wendi's life would be so much better had she just let Dan have his boys and moved back to South Florida. Charles and Donna would not be where they are currently. Here's the kicker, Wendi most likely is going to finally lose those boys anyway. If there is any part of their father in them they will grow up to be smart men and will be able to separate truth from hyperbole. There is a day of reckoning coming for Wendi. It may not result in a visit to the greybar hotel, but let it be understood that not all prisons are made with Iron and Steel!
Definitely not, money-wise he was making make more than she was I think at one point he was making over 3 million a year. His obsession with Wendi is fuelled by his controlling personality, I think his trying to assert himself as the dominant ‘head of the house ‘ who makes the decisions.
@@whysodamloud I definitely agree he doesn't have a good attitude towards women, he kept calling her a trust fund baby though, because she was getting insurance money she was getting money for the boys because of their dad's stuff from social security and Charlie felt like she had it easy when it came to money.... poor Charlie felt like he had to work his butt off by scamming the system and everyone he could 😶
Wow! I guess this guy got away! Thank God! Can you imagine hearing this years later and realizing that you dodged a ginormous bullett! Literally and figuratively.
Donna is disgusting. Charlie is right when he says wendi's life was good because everyone was doing everything for her. They are all sick. If Charlie didn't flash his cash, no woman would give him the time of day
He saw his prison cell the day of the verdict. GUILTY! He saw it so clearly he had to put his head on the table. Enjoy prison. Soon you will be some giant dude named BUBBA very own Victorias Secret model Bahaaawahaaaaa
I’ve heard nothing but great things about Dave! They’d be supportive only until they disagree with his choices re: Wendi, and then they’d plan his demise too!
@@ErinAboufanci fiction had a video of Dave up at one point that made me realize that Wendi was right to not want to he with him. He was Charlie’s buddy, I’ll leave it at that.
Charlie thinks he's the nicest thing since slice bread.And Wendy is so educated and smart and cute.That is why when she was on the stand she leaning her head and stearing out her eyes like she cute.
Meanwhile, Wendi doesnt give a damn about any of them.
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She never did
Don’t love those boys either
If she did we would not be here
There’s no way with the hatred she still has for Dan and the fact she never bonded with the boys either
The boys are better off with none of these losers in their lives
This family sucks
Wendi will give a serious Damn if Ch starts talking after Donna gets convicted and sentenced. He can send his sister away for sixty years and get his sentence revised (in theory - practically it 's rather difficult as his sentence would have to be vacated and he'd have to be resentenced on the basis of second degree murder, which he was not convicted of ...) . He might be able to arrange for Donna to go to a nice prison near Miami. The DOJ would never admit that but such things do happen.
TE. Fidler
@@F_Tim1961 I think Wendi was involved but will take more than Charlie saying so.Where as Donna they had on wiretap....Wendi is on nothing...
@@mjlives5428 Exactly so. She received some emails from Don but it seems was sensible enough to not reply. I fact she likely give her mother a lecture about not sending any more.
Go to the am of the 18th. It appears she gave Ch the details from the Dan markel voicemail. However there's no evidence the Ch did anything with them. HOwever at 11:15 am he rings KM in a very short call . That would be exactly the right time to find out whether SG had rung KM if Dan had left Premier on time and SG had killed him at home. My unproven theory is that SG was supposed to ring KM immediately post the hit once they were a few km away (say 10) to tell her that it had happened. Ch could then warn Wendi in one of two ways. That would all make a lot of sense. I also suggests that SG has a second instruction sheet for the second attempt. When you realise that Rivera went the other way at the intersection onto Trescott so he would meet Dan head on - it suggests a much greater level of planning than SG is capable of. The relative distances down the road to Dan's house need to be known and even driven down to make sure there are no issues, I would have thought.
Remember too that Rivera knew that Dan was leaving town (to go to NY). I expect that CH could fill in on when he heard that to pass on.
TE.Fidler
Ahahahaha, what a creep! No Victoria Secrets model, whether she's 37 or 97, is giving Charlie a second look 🤣🤣🤣
Right? I bet he would give anything now to come home from work to his 37 year old girlfriend and her kid that farts in his face😂😂That not in a million years attitude has been wiped from his smug face😊
No Victoria Secret Model would give Charlie a second glance. Most VS model make more money than Charlie ever could and are intelligent women….doesn’t matter if they are 18 or 37 or older….not one of them would find Charlie to be good looking, intelligent, interesting etc. He is so gross. I hope Wendy has listened to every single phone call.
A 37 year old Victoria's Secret model can have anyone they want from a 22 year old Abercrombie and Fitch model to an older billionaire, Charlie is NOT on their radar lol!!
What a puke! How vain can a person be!? He's bashing a 37 year old and trying to convince Wendy her bfriend is too old for her and nobody's gonna want her cuz she has 2 kids yet he dated Katie who was certainly no model and had 2 kids AND a psycho ex! This dude deserves what he got!
Most women wouldn’t give him a second look. 😂
Charlie thinks he’s a freakin’ genius. 🙄😹😹 What’s not funny though, is the more he talks, you discover how shallow and selfish he is.
Well put!!!
Does anyone still have questions why Wendy isn't speaking to either of them?😵💫
@astrialindah2773 her lawyers said to stay away.
She knows that as at lawyer. I think it's her plan to get rid of all of them...she's psychopathic...planned all the way
Charlie is the child of a narcissist and is trying to establish himself as the golden child.
@@astrialindah2773 If Wendi has listened to any of this stuff she's heard Chucky talk about the drive by as lighting house fire and coming back to see it burn down. THat's hugely incriminating even if it was a semi throwaway statement. GC is going to bring that up at the next two trials....
Donna actually said " the boys need a dad"?
Holy sheets!
The boys had a wonderful dad, they destroyed him. Charlie is a meddling idiot. Needs to take care of his own affairs.
As long as she can choose the person !!!! Mind you - she chose Dan on a dating app. for Wendi.
They just want to be puppeteers, and control everything.
But Wendi must like it that way because she thrives on being helpless.
Listen to Charlie moaning constantly about working so hard and my one day off a week, again with the victim thing.
I thought he was self employed and pretty rich.
So he's moaning about his own need for greed.
@@flowerjpotter1629 he is!!! He was not turning down any work, because he wants the money!! most of his calls are about shares, buying things and his boat.
It seems to never cross their mind that she doesn’t want to marry, again, with meddling Mom and Brother. Yet, now that these two are far far away, she might reconsider. Soap Opera 🙄
Imagine, if they would have focused on their own lives, they could all still be a family, a horrible, shallow family.
This drives me crazy. They had everything!
Had everything and even then it still wasnt enough.
@@kristenfoland8440
What a great point!
Imagine if Donna and Harvey had just moved up to Tallahassee to be near the boys.
It is sickening to hear how obsessed they are with who Wendi dated.
Donna is! Then gets the idiot son involved! Donna helped pick Danny on JDate for Wendi. So, the next guy dodged a bullet with Donna going to jail/prison soon!
I agree! Weird!!!
Its baffling!
Donna complained about babysitting the boys, yet her whole purpose was taking the boys away from Dan and for Wendi and the boys live by her and Harvey so they could be together
Yes, she literally had to have the grandkids near her, and hated their father. Wicked woman.
Good point!!!
She doesn't love the boys, she just wanted to win.
It’s about the lack of respect Wendi has for her mother. Wendi only cares about Wendi.
Could say that she was willing to kill to get control of the boys. However at the age that the boys were then, they just felt that the boys could use a father figure now. Just looking out for what is best for the boys I do suppose.
So they killed her ex husband so they could select someone for her! So sick and twisted. That guy would be a fool to get involved with this family.
Yes, and keep in mind that Donna helped Wendi settle on Dan. How did that advice turn out? But Donna learned nothing from that fiasco.
@@louesparza8003 because they couldn't control Dan. Dan chose where he wanted to live for the job he wanted.
No! They wanted Wendi and the boys to live in Miami with grandma control narcissist
Donna wants Wendi to be as boring as she is
Mother Donna is the epitome of the meddling mother.
SAYING the kids deserve a dad. So sad. I wonder what will happen at Donna's case?
Meddling gramma Gotti on steroids
These people know the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Beautifully said.
he actually says that women need to be kept poor and desperate and worked to the bone so they can look at guys like him and consider themselves lucky to have the attention of a guy like him.
its sick because this is a big reason women really are kept poor and over-worked with the burden of children more than men. They have decided and enacted all the ways to make our value go down while theres goes up.
I’m using this! I will give you credit, don’t worry! 😂🙏🏾❤️
Well said!
@@AidaShawJ.D. not necessary. Think maybe Oscar Wilde.
What absolutely awful people
Gigi--another great one!!! So ironic that Charlie-boy is giving relationship advice!?!?!?
This family is dangerous. They "selected" Dan for Wendi and it ended with them murdering him and here they are once more like a pack of wolves, painfully trying to "select" Dave for a 37 year old Wendi inspite of her not showing any true love for the Dave. These people are outright dangerous
Yep, and if Dave doesn’t behave the way they want, they’ll off him too.
Absolutely!!! Dave better run far away!
Their phone calls are so bizarre. My phone conversations are nothing like this. What a messed up family.
Donna and Charlie feed one another's self-serving ambitions. No one else would ever keep this ridiculous conversation going this long... And they literally did this every single day.
Every time Donna talks to Charlie, she mentions having Wendi’s boys. Wendi wanted to move back to south Florida so she could dump the boys off on her mother. What an irresponsible, selfish , spoiled brat.
Omg I know it’s so creepy!!!! She just doesn’t mention that she had to kill their father 🧑🏻
Exactly.
I think she was jealous of Dan and the way he loved those boys. He was so involved he would go over to the daycare and have lunch with them. Yet, tried to create the narrative he was an absentee father 😢😢 When all of his friends and acquaintances said the opposite.. She didn't was always traveling and leaving the boys with sitters.. I swear she had a secret life.. I hope it come out. I hope someone backed up the WhatsApp messages in a cloud..
@@amy7310 I’m praying to God the What’s App nails Wendi.
@@amy7310this is where I am confused - in her mind I think he may have been as it seemed he travelled a lot - but when push comes to shove - he wanted to be with his kids - I’m not sure why they couldn’t do 2-2-3 or one week on or one week off - it seems to me she could not be alone with her children
Chawley is so freaking creepy. He thinks he's in GQ magazine and any woman is available to him. He thinks way too highly of himself.
And Charlie is approaching 50 himself now, yet he was constantly seeking younger women. Including Katie who had kids with Sigfredo. Things that make you go, hmm.🤨
@@ErinAbou well, now he'll be looking for a pen pal or sexy young man if he wants physical contact.
He has creep written all over him!
He thinks his income affords him a 19 year old super model. It doesn't. He wasn't getting 8's, 9's, or 10's, but he did get 7's. If he had a working class income he 'd have been lucky to get 4's.
A self proclaimed crime genius to actually believe that he could pull that off and not eventually get his ass busted. Who’d a thunk that the cops can and do tap people’s phones? He had to have missed that episode on Dateline.
He’s a psychopath… pontificating like he is king of the world ..
He is vying for his mother’s love. That’s why he set up the murder.
His long winded analogies are adolescent, lol.
@@franceshaypenny8481 So true he's a bit simple minded for a grown man.
OMG. I didn't think I could dislike these two any more than I already do, and they keep surprising me.
The absolute gall of these two discussing what Wendi should do to get the boys a dad when they ripped away their own loving wonderful father.
5:58 “people only see TODAY…”. Sounds like Chawlee wasn’t looking into the future when he participated in all the Adelson shenanigans!!!
No kidding!!
Donna: "Her kids who deserve a dad..." Wow. The irony is incredible.
Blimey The way Charlie speaks about women is dreadful and Donna be on the call enabling him. I can’t imagine stomaching hearing my child talk about women like this. Donna only ambition is to control her daughters life & use Charlie to do so!
Yes! It's revolting! And Donna's just like, yes yes
all Victoria's secret models are so broken-hearted that they've lost out on the opportunity to be with Charlie
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love the sarcasm🙄🙄🤣🤣🤣.
“She’s been given an opportunity that most likely won’t happen again…” - meaning, we most likely won’t murder her next husband??
Yes!!
Killed it with the graphics on this one!
Absolutely.
The graphics were a distraction for me.
Omg…I could only get 1/2 way through this. What a narcissist. His friend was right…HE NEVER SHUTS UP. 🤢
I know. I had to stop it and watch it later.
Haha I just thought I only made 9 min!!! Maybe I’ll finish. But he thinks he’s soooo smart and wise!!! Why do the two of them control Wendi?? It’s soo weird. I had two older brothers and I was the baby. This is def strange!!!
Donna saying these kids deserve a dad. OMG they had a great Dad!
I'm so 100% sure Wendi played them all
Me too! And now she’s going to walk away with all her parents inheritance to boot
I think they were all excited, feeling powerful and on the same page (for different reasons) all through the planning right up until the moment Wendi's sat in back of the police car riding to the station.
That's when ii got real and she decided to deviate to save her own hide so as soon she could she spewed up her family and her brother as possible conspirators to the detective in her "I'm just the wide eyed victim here". Special act.
Then with her new script the performance became delaying phoning her mother on purpose pretending: Oh thank goodness Mom sounded shocked.
Listening to the whole of her time at the police station I didn't catch her imploring the police to please find the killer.
Instead it became: My responsibility to work out who has killed Dan.
Is that really what a sudden widow would say ?
She lamented: Who would do this ?
But forgot to insist please you must catch them.
I don't remember any: Poor Dan.
I think all three of them were equally complicit.
Yep.
He literally says "women need to be kept poor so as they get older and more desperate, they find men like me to be like lottery tickets. Women need to be worked to the bone and kept destitute so the value of Men increases."
Im so disgusted, and this is a mindset that more people have then one likes to acknowledge.
Don’t believe any real man thinks like this mama’s boy, please. You’re listening to a delusional entitled black sheep boy!
This is the man Wendi (the layer who helps victims of S*x slavery). admires the man who spent vacations paying for vulnerable young girls and women to “entertain “ him for pennies. She’s disgusting.
"As you sow, so shall you reap" never had a truer meaning. That's how Donna raised her children, she only has herself to blame for where she is. I couldn't feel more sorry for Dan and his family for having ever crossed their path. Let's hope the law changes to ensure victim parents have guaranteed access to their granchildren and can't be pushed out
A classic case of nature or nurture. I’m thinking that they are where they are today, because of nurture. Just how they were raised.
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They're adults now, by 40 it's time to take real ownership of their mistakes and responsibilities.
Time to own their lives before the midlife crisis sets in.
Wendi a trust fund baby..whatttt ya dont say.
She got a lot without working for it. If that doesn't scream wendi is also guilty as hell, I don't know what else does. He literally has said she made out like a bandit because she was lucky. Her having Dan off'd made it to where she made millions of dollars and she has the nerve on the stand to act like she didn't benefit from his death. This whole entire family is disgusting. And the fact that Charlie thinks every man out there is wired how he is when it comes to being in a relationship is laughable 😂 he's gross. They all are gross
FYI, She had an Adelson trust fund before marrying Dan. Her boys have a trust from the Markel family.
Charlie's has to be on cocaine for talking this much
He is on something
If you paid me I could not talk like he is!!!
I'm convinced that must be the case
The graphics are killing me 😂
Who is talking like this to a parent or a parent to a child, this is so beyond crazy.
I admire their relationship.
If Charlie's outlook on life and relationships are a reflection of Donna's upbringing, listening to him opine and gossip must absolutely stroke her ego.
It’s a trust fund baby situation! 😂😂😂
@@dandydon6049😂😂😂😂 Yes, that of co-conspirators 😂😂😂
Whoever Dave is, I’ll bet he’s thanking his lucky stars he escaped entanglement in all this next level insanity.
OMG He just loves to hear himself talk!
‘It breaks my heart because the kids adore him ‘
well Donna they adored there dad too but you still had him killed ..
Wonder if Charlie has found his “ Victoria Secret model in the Pokey??? 😂😂😂
Talk about delusional, lol. This is the guy who flew to south east Asia to buy under age girls, or at least girls who are far too young for him. Charlie had to pay a small fortune to spend time with them - they weren't beating down his door. And sorry, but, June is no goddess - I don't get why people think she's anything better than nominally pretty. But of course, she's still too good for Charlie.
Yes
It’s Pat or Chris on the inside
Mmmmm good
A 25 year old is gonna be 18 in 15 years ?
So math is his strong point 😅
@@franceshaypenny8481everyone is too good for this s head
Victoria's "secret" is:
"she's" a he in cell block 4.
Yes... His name is Ben... Ben Dover
Can you imagine your brother sitting you down and telling you this is the only person who might ever "choose" you? I wonder if she's listened to this. No wonder she"s distanced herself from them
It's insanely insulting. They just essentially say over and over that she's unloveable
There certainly won't be another Dave! "My convicted murderer brother thinks we should date, Dave."
Brilliant 🤣🤣🤣
Didn't Donna learn her lesson the first time she picked a husband for Wendi? Bet Dave is thanking God he dodged that bullet (no pun intended) har har
Nope!
So now Wendi's problem is that kids don't have dad! And they're surprised Wendi is not desirable. Murder does not become most people.
Wendi’s no catch.
Not while enmeshed with that meddling mother and psycho brother. The first son was smart to walk away and never look back!
I'm glad Dave left. When that banana bread appears......you better run!
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It amazes me how much this guy knows about everything.
I can't imagine how Daniel Raschbaum was able to out-con Charlie Adelman and now Donna, convincing them they had/have a chance in view of the evidence. Big payday for a hustler.
Interesting perspective! 😂😂
Donna keeps saying Dave is a great “dad for these boys.”?!!! This is insane. The boys had a great dad. They keep saying this is “a once in a lifetime opportunity.” Like Wendi just got accepted at Harvard Law. No. They are talking about a guy like he’s “the opportunity.” Ugh.
They’re acting like Wendi was a contestant on “The Bachelor!”
Donna & Charlie stay so busy telling each other what & how to think & behave. It's nauseating.
Putting aside the serious nature of the crime that took place for a moment, what you’re doing with these wiretaps is freaking hilarious!! 😂😂😂 It just cracks me up!
Gigi, you’ve changed my life. I am not a tv watcher, and I’m very picky about what I listen to especially when I sleep. I’m more of a music lover like you. I do not know why and I can’t explain it. But Charley’s audio tapes, especially the ones where he is talking to his mom, are the best source of entertainment for me personally that I’ve ever heard, except for STS podcast and Dateline. Maybe it’s because I grew up poor, and these type of life problems evaded me in many ways. And although he may be silly at times, the details he espouses behind his thought processes intrigues me to no end. I find myself saying, “These people,” often. I can listen to them for hours. This particular one is one of my favorites. Thank you for providing them.
So this is how Charlie really feels about Wendi. On the stand, he soft-shelled her. He can’t stand her.
Don’t you wish Georgia Kapleman had played this to the jury?? 😂😂😂
This is the first time I've really understood my mom's saying of people talking just to hear their heads rattle
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Cocaine induced vocal diarrhea!
Everybody loved Dave except Wendi.
Dave Atias missed a bullet . He was a J too from what I understand.
I never heard of this dave guy?
😂😂😂😂
@@F_Tim1961 who's dave?was he in the trial?
@@eliza-uh1sk Dave Atias is a computer security type of guy but at a fairly high level. It seems he has worked for FBI or similar and now has his own company in that area and I think writes or controls writing of software . He's quite wealthy either by his own efforts or some family money. Anyway he sounds well about Wendi's level - which is the same story that obtained with Dan M. Atias appears to be Jewish, going on the name. Clearly he has charmed Donna too. One wonders where Wendi picked him up....? some Miami party ? Anyway he quit W pretty quickly. There are two fairly likely reasons why. No he was nowhere near the trial.
Interesting to hear Charlie say “well, they had a dad. It’s a tragedy what happened to him.” And Donna is so obsessed with Wendi seeing that Dave is “such a great guy and will be such a great dad to the kids. This is their only opportunity for a dad.”
That whole family besides the oldest estranged son Robert disgust me
Awesome! More Adelson chicanery! Thanks 😎
Too bad these criminals hadn’t had some of their “wisdom” before setting up these children to be fatherless! I wonder if Wendi will be arrested anytime soon!
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What a charmer, that Charlie is.
I had to keep pausing this video cuz I'm writing down all this sage advice from charlie! How are we also blessed to get free advice like this
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LOL Lived and learned from fools and from sages everyone sing
They consider potential spouses with the same criteria as potential real estate or other business investments.
Hahahaha I keep pausing it cause I never want it to end!!!
Gold Charlie! Gold!
Even the way she says “Hey Charlie” sicks me out!! They talk like they are a couple-it’s so gross.
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You are so funny!!! Reading the comments on Adelson drama is getting me through … lol I think we should do a group zoom to all chat about this!!! Lots more to come! There’s Donna’s trial & the Wendi Arrest & maybe Harvey Supeona to testify???
Try to calls when she calls him "Uncle Charlie"....barf.
Yep they definitely seem to have an emotionally incestuous relationship. I think that’s why Donna doesn’t mind Charlie’s vapid girlfriends. Because Donna remains the most important woman in C’s life.
Yes their relationship is very emotionally incestuous. He makes her feel young, included and up to date and she makes him feel loved and important.
Too bad Charlie didn’t “ think progressively” regarding the situation with Dan, he didn’t see how that turned out!!!! Thanks GiGi for keeping us entertained.
Charlie is such a jerk!!
What grown man gossips with his mother?? 🤦🏽♀️
Lots of Jewish people
A mama’s boy!
His mother runs that household so he goes to the alpha.
His father is a low key quiet guy soft spoken man, while Mommy is the Gangsta!! IJS lock Wendy up she was involved just like her mother.
RIP
Dan Markel🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️
Wow! You don’t gossip with your mom? All grownup children (gender) doesn’t matter if they have a good relationship with their mom or dad they will talk about family specially if they care for them.
It’s really creepy
The gall of these degenerates. For instance, imagine if Charlie and Donna hadn't been the murder plotters, but the story about Katie and Sigfredo and Luis doing it on their own, hoping to extort everyone, was actually true. Wouldn't you at least feel responsible for bringing these people into the picture to begin with?? Not Charlie, who says, ''Well, they had a Dad...it's a tragedy what happened.'' As if it was a car accident or a flippin' alien abduction! This piece of garbage was the cause of Dan's death - even if his ridiculous double extortion story was true! And then he acts as though he and Donna are completely in another galaxy of existence.
Yes, and Donna very quickly dismissed him by listing all the qualities that Dave has (as if Danny wasn’t smart, present with his boys, and wanted to be with them)!!
@@AidaShawJ.D. They had NO legitimate complaints about Dan - none. They only despised him because of Wendy's seething envy of him, her own husband, and the fact that Dan stuck up for himself and wasn't Wendy's lap dog. And of course - that Dan had faith in God; not for social reasons, but in reality. Devilish Donna can't have that!
If Charlie is 1/2 as smart as he thinks he is, he will flip on Wendi. Like Charlie said, Wendi won the lottery and how did she win the lottery? She won because of her family and what was done to Dan. He needs to think about where he is and where is Wendi right now. She may be looking over her shoulder but right now she is not sitting in a jail cell. I look forward to the day when Wendi is arrested, it will be a great day. Justice for the Markel’s.
How would that benefit him now?
I absolutely love all the little graphics you insert in these videos! Hilarious! Thank you for all your hard work you put into this.
Wendy doesn’t want a husband. DONNARRHEA just can’t comprehend that.
Charlie had one day off, and his mom convinced him to spend it trying to convince Wendi to get serious about the guy she's dating
I don’t feel like many things leave speechless but I’m literally sitting her listening to this sickness with my mouth hanging open! Good lord this family is crazy!!!
Charlie no longer has to choose whether he hooks up with the 26 year old or the 37 year old
Victoria Secrets model. Someone should send him a catalog.
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Wow! Donna at 15:43 “she is throwing it away not only for herself but also from these kids that deserve a Dad.”
These people! No words.
It's mind boggling isn't it? Those kids had a wonderful Daddy ... and just because Wendy didn't like being so far away from her Mommy ... She didn't like Tally, they MURDERED him?
I just don't understand their though processes at all.
Charlie is an expert on relationships now? 🤡
This is f’ing weird. I couldn’t imagine my mom and brother being this involved in my life as an adult. This is truly creepy.
Thank God he didn't "complicate" his life. He might have something to bitch about!
D is all praise to king Charles, he is full of bs saying he will not date woman with kids, what about Katie though it is obvious he just used her. This attitude of D makes her son C think he is good and so he can do anything.
I’ll never forget the phone call between Mommy and Dentist Boy, and he told her about how got caught speeding, like over 100mph, with no license and a gun in the car. Talked the cop out of a ticket, showing him his med id. Donna just accepted it, instead of saying, “Are you out of your mind?????” Obvious no boundaries in that family, it was more like, “Hey, whatever you can get away with.
I call BS on that "get out of a ticket" crap... .My husband has been a cop for 30 years and I can tell you that does NOT happen ... An ER Doctor (who isn't) would NOT get any special treatment. "Maybe" another cop might get away with it .. But a flipping doctor? Nooooooooo
I love the graphics you added, Gigi! It makes even more entertaining 😊
I can’t imagine how much control the mom has over Charlie he was right to concentrate on yourself. He was tired too late.
Charlie giving relationship advice to wendi when most of his gfs he picked up from street corners 😂 telling wendi to date money😅 unbelievable 😅
Such an underbelly of sibling jealousy that Charlie has for Wendi. Sitting alone in prison Charlie is probably getting angrier and angrier - this is why I predict Charlie will testify against Wendi ! We need full justice for Dan Markel !
Worse than that Donna loves those grandkids but she’s so angry with Wendi for not bowing down to mama she will push her under the bus too!
Would Charlie be able to ask for a reduced sentence if he did that?
@@shidehhafezi6826that’s the question. Maybe he can be sent to a better facility near his son. We have to stay tuned!
Don’t y’all know these tapes are playing in Charlie’s head 24/7❤❤❤❤❤❤
Claiming first to Mash the “Like” button XO JaynesWhirled…..of course, not sure what this says about my social life….hehe One of my most fav calls. Here they are meddling again - trying to get W to stay w a guy she doesnt “passionately love.” Thats what started the whole “Markel problem!”
No kidding!!
9:11 “Mom, I have gone above and beyond “ “I know Charlie “
I listened to this very carefully. Charles in some respects was telling the truth in 2016, but today is no longer true. One of the reasons Susan Smith did what she did in Union SC was her new boy toy did not want kids. I might also add that today Wendi's life would be so much better had she just let Dan have his boys and moved back to South Florida. Charles and Donna would not be where they are currently. Here's the kicker, Wendi most likely is going to finally lose those boys anyway. If there is any part of their father in them they will grow up to be smart men and will be able to separate truth from hyperbole. There is a day of reckoning coming for Wendi. It may not result in a visit to the greybar hotel, but let it be understood that not all prisons are made with Iron and Steel!
Well said!
What a great point!
Your last sentence-so so true
Great point
You got it right,mate.
Thank you for keeping us going with these little extras while we are waiting for Donna's trial to start
He is exhausting!! I wonder if he is this full of himself in prison.
Charlie is so jealous..... Of Wendy's success 😮
He was carried through life just as she was.
no one is jealous of wendi regarding anything
Definitely not, money-wise he was making make more than she was I think at one point he was making over 3 million a year. His obsession with Wendi is fuelled by his controlling personality, I think his trying to assert himself as the dominant ‘head of the house ‘ who makes the decisions.
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I definitely agree he doesn't have a good attitude towards women, he kept calling her a trust fund baby though, because she was getting insurance money she was getting money for the boys because of their dad's stuff from social security and Charlie felt like she had it easy when it came to money.... poor Charlie felt like he had to work his butt off by scamming the system and everyone he could 😶
What success?
They are both crazy.
Donna says the kids deserves a dad but it was ok to murder the loving dedicated one they had??🤦♀️ geez 🙄 gasp 🫢😮
Wow! I guess this guy got away! Thank God! Can you imagine hearing this years later and realizing that you dodged a ginormous bullett! Literally and figuratively.
One word sums this convo up : barf.
Donna is disgusting. Charlie is right when he says wendi's life was good because everyone was doing everything for her. They are all sick. If Charlie didn't flash his cash, no woman would give him the time of day
Got the shallowness is despicable! Everything is transactional and about 💰 and status! What rung are you on now Charlie and Donna?
They were always upbeat. If one didn’t know better, they would not guess their history.
HEY CHOLLY! lol these calls are fun to listen to
I wonder if he saw his prison cell in his “future” visions….
He saw his prison cell the day of the verdict. GUILTY! He saw it so clearly he had to put his head on the table. Enjoy prison. Soon you will be some giant dude named BUBBA very own Victorias Secret model Bahaaawahaaaaa
I was thinking the same thing! Is he still able to do and have whatever he wants?
Dave must be such a great catch listening to these two murderers fangirl over him.
I’ve heard nothing but great things about Dave! They’d be supportive only until they disagree with his choices re: Wendi, and then they’d plan his demise too!
@@ErinAboufanci fiction had a video of Dave up at one point that made me realize that Wendi was right to not want to he with him. He was Charlie’s buddy, I’ll leave it at that.
Poor Charlee. He never has to worry about who to date ever again.
Charlie says he is a progressive thinker ... 😮😮😮😮😂😂😂😂😂😂
Charlie thinks he's the nicest thing since slice bread.And Wendy is so educated and smart and cute.That is why when she was on the stand she leaning her head and stearing out her eyes like she cute.