“SHOCKED” | Left Wing Alliance Becomes Largest Force In France Elections
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- The NFP alliance on the left became the largest force in the French parliament, but did not secure an absolute majority in a surprising outcome that saw the far-right National Rally (RN) drop to third place.
The NFP won 182 seats in the 577-seat parliament. President Emmanuel Macron’s centrist alliance won 163 seats, and the RN won 143 seats.
Europe editor of The Sunday Times Peter Conradi joins Talk’s Mike Graham to discuss this further.
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Le Pen - 10,110,013 votes.
Far left - 7,040,232 votes.
And the far left win? Odd that.
Much like 9m votes gets you 400+ Labour seats in Parliament, 3.5 million gets Lib Dem’s 71 seats and 4 million gets Reform 5 seats.
where's the source for those numbers
@@davidmrenton Google is your friend.
@@therealqueenofeverything yeah tried to look, but a lot of sites even say with the UK one don't give actual vote numbers, not disputing what you put, just like a reference
@peterholden3672instead of being snarky why not explain it. Only people who study politics understand the unfairness of FPP.
They fixed this to keep her out
Yes, well done! Le Pen looks like she's swallowed a lemon. C'est la vie!
@@elainesmiles3671 So the French have hamstrung their parliament because they are more Rons. They will get what they deserve
@@deborahcurtis1385France has just screwed themselves… good job
Of course they did. Think back to the first election between these two. Overseas voters - mostly Macron supporters - 'accidentally got two lots of voting slips in the post. There were half a million overseas voters so Macron's total had a major boost. At the same time thousands of postal voting slips with Le Pen's name on had been 'spoiled' and could not be used by the recipients. It was said at the time it would 'be investigated' but never heard another word about it.
Seems like Macron has several tricks up his sleeve. Way past time for another French Revolution .
@@deborahcurtis1385 Ur a turkey voting for Thanksgiving.
Why is it always just the left and always the far right ?
Because all media are left wing and will only demonised their opponents. It’s psychological warfare.
When it should be right of centre and fanatical left. Just shows you who's really calling the shots.
@@Luton-Mick couldn’t of said it any better myself
Umm because it's propaganda ... propaganda doesn't report honestly and truthfully they use double speak and biased political phrases.
💯😢
The French surrendering their country yet again
Putting up the White Flag is a nation sport.
Correct my friend but this time there will be no British or American lives lost liberating this pathetic bunch.
Don't think there is much appetite to come save them for a 3rd time either..
The irony is you're referencing France surrounding to the German national-socialists, and founders of the RN (who came third in this vote) had direct links to the German national socialists.
When push comes to shove they stick with the left so more of the same rather than vote for change
Oh dear me.. you deserve everything you get citizens of France. The left have shown you what they do when they can't their own way.
Same applies to us
Exactly! The french are nothing if not stupid!
they are citizens of france you pleb
They submitted votes. That's all. There was a National Front, neither liberals or leftists wanted them. It's not the first time this happens.
@@pevebe far from we haven't had it our way for what, 14 years? I seen no protests, riots or criminal damage
enjoy your cultural enrichment France.
this but unironically
enjoy shari'a France. hahaha.
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France. It used to be a country
Now it's a cesspool
It used to be, before the right deindustralized it along with Britain from the 1980s onwards.
@@ContactBaroqueHallnow when you can't afford to eat,and have to rely on the government like you probably do now, get back to us 😂😂😂😂😂😂
As did we
Now it's a Arab country
I am sure this alliance will collapse in short order.
Members of macrons party have already said they won’t deal with the far left
@@chnbal don’t worry , this ridiculous cabal of communists, socialists , greenies will collapse because they won’t be able to agree on things
You hope it does I'm assuming?
@chnbal macron is clearly libral he is not socialist.
Since he came, he lowered taxes for companies and entrepreneurs. + he is fiscally conservative with the budget, that's why the left wing hate him.
Title should be FAR LEFT TRIGGERS CIVIL WAR
BORING.
@@FRANKIECULLEN-r3gWhy? Because it's true? It''s always those on the left that get violent. Labour won here, and were there riots by the far right? No.
Left triggers silly alt-righters 😂
You certainly are,and thick.@@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g
@@valarcon9132 At least you'll be useful as can0n f0dd3r.
Goodbye France that’s the end
I have solution to you your loser in Uk try emerge with loser of France agianst the leftis who knows maybe in 100 years time you get your revenge
As are we
Why ?
France has fallen
Definitely
Nah, they'll realise soon enough. The far-right have grown in support over the years. Next time, they'll win.
México just elected another socialist 😏 the American suburbs will fall as well, inshallah.
Well...!!! Had expected this to happen, long long ago already...! With all these protestors, France had indeed turned into a second GAZA strip...!☝️🙄😬🫤
Crap hole of a country.
France will soon be known as "FRANKISTAN"
@@MinMax0 Same as Londonistan
@@davedbaveda And Bradistan.
it already is
குட் நியூஸ்.
Still bettwr than getting invaded by Russia or turning into fascist autocracy.
The Islamic republic of France ☪️ 🇫🇷
Why france people vote for left wing . I vote for right wing because i know if left wing come in power there will be no non Muslim alive in india . Right wing won but now left wing become strong again 😢
Maybe don’t occupy African countries next time. You wouldn’t be in this situation would you?
@@rensloons2293 The French are letting Africans into France out of kindness. Comments like you just made are what create the far-right.
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@@rensloons2293 Comments like that are what create the Far Right.
France has fallen……Again 😢
They been falling for decades. Now things escalating more quicker. It's sad how West becoming third world countries.
@@dw2195the cope is high with this one pls keep coping.
Citizens get the leases they vote for and deserve !!!! RIP FRANCE 🪦
RIP UK.
uk next😢
It's all fixed before voting, wake up
All Hail France, free from extremist Right wing Fanatics
@@FredPerpsso agree
Serves France right , you deserve what you voted for
Unfortunately that applies to us in the UK aswell
The majority voted for LaPen though.....
Yeh Right, France is in a hell of a state. Just compare with UK.
They voted FN.
@@chrisgraham6148 Both countries are F-cked unfortunately.
90% tax rate coming for the French, well done you played yourselves.
Naaah, the extreme left don't have the votes to push their policies through
rather live in france a million times over the Neocon toilet that is the USA
end of france macron just gave it too islamist well done
To the communist FAR LEFT!
Islam ❤️
This is but the beginning.
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@@Shaakireen8875 fuk islam
This just shows how little macron cares about the country. It doesn't matter who gets in as long as they dont represent the majority of the population. Just like the UK.
How are you going to decide the difference between a 'Muslim' and 'an Islamist ' ?
What a laughable statement by the PM of UK ! French going the same path.
The attack by the Afghan in Germany had no previous history of violence 😂
You don't have to be a Muslim to be an Islamist. Corbyn,for example, is an Islamist as is George Galloway.
Most muslims have extreme views, it comes right out of the koran, look at what happened to the people after the battle of the trench. Then look what ISIS did to the yazidis.
No previous history of violence from Germany or Afghanistan?
They all read from the same book.
My brother told me in the 90s that Islam will take over the world. Were Aussies. He was in the Australian Navy in Irak. Most Aussies had no idea what Islam even was. Boy was he right.
Thanks in no small part to treacherous politicians.
Brother you are right . My father also said there was a time there is no other religions in earth only destruction and muslim. After few years there will be no non Muslim country in the world
The cognitive dissonance, what was he taking over muslim countries, if he doesn't want muslims to take over?
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Eh?
that's not going to happen in countries that are conservative or in the right. the left are like the devil, they would give you all the promise of freedom and democracy, in exchange of poverty and chaos. hahaha. the french are dumb.
There are three fighters. One fighter knocks out the other two in the first round. Then the rules allow the two losers to gang up and knock out the winner in a bizarre second round. That is called French Boxing.
France is a done deal 😢
As are we
Europe is falling 😔
@@amankumar5602 When the laws of man fail us, we can always trust in the laws of Christ.
@@amankumar5602because they stop believing in Christ and they start believing in depravity. that's what happens with Sodom and Gomorrah.
Maybe this is good. France will see first hand what real far left government does to the country.
And do what? Nothing as always.
Live like an American or live like a Russian. They did not choose America.
It's not the back room deals between Macron and the Communists I'm worried about - it's the 13 million french people who still don't get it. They want to go deeper
There are no communists. Just propagandists and unfortunately all the media is propaganda this coming from a well connected insider who knows what is really going on.
The West has fallen
Corruption everywhere
It's called total corruption
Anything to keep power just like our own politicians
The good old WEF up to their old tricks.
Absolutely!!
The French are really good at surrender.
Every time I think they grew a scrotum …. They turn to limp noodles
wow your sooo funny dude
The French Olympic team will be marching behind the Palestinian flag. Only in France
Have you seen the so called French football team? More like Africa
Yes National African team of France he he he
apparently France hasnt had enough misery yet.
Enjoy the upcoming inflation to the soon to be Muslim France. 🇫🇷🤷🏾♂️👎🏾
You can vote for whoever you want but you will get who the WEF tell you you are getting!
Well goodnight France, you had a good run and now its over.
Who will want to take their hols in France now
We’ve gone from Eton mess with the Tories to French mess with Macron.
It is nearly as if it was all planned
They really do live in their own heads.
How do they think a few politicians who stich up the majority opinion is going to solve the wider issues is beyond me.
Fantasy and mere procrastination.
How many were scared into voting for the left because of the riots last week?
Yet it was the Left who were rioting!!
its not about votes its about the parties inside parliament, the left pathetic as it is , made small coalition to throw Le Pen. this is rigged election
You mean the riots started by the left? Those riots?
Why would they think voting for far left lunatics would stop far left rioters?
None. They don't fear riots - they thrive on them! The votes were rigged - as usual!
muslims and their friends have won the french elections😢☠️
Rigged system!
Typical loser talk. Rightwing snowflake.
Rigged how? 😅
"there was a lot of tactical voting against them"
the people of europe are going to have to realize they are being played and overlooked, by politicians and other bad actors behind the curtains that dont see the government as being for the people at all, but rather against them. eventually they are going to have to SMASH through the system by voting with such a strong pull to the right that not amount of corruption could ever sway against that.
" The government you elect is the government you deserve. " hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
The majority voted for LePen, it was stolen by the Globalists.
Happy alluha akbar to my fellow french
Macrons party and the extreme left islamo parties gerrymander the vote by removing whoever candidate between them that was placed third before the vote. Otherwise, the Nationals would have won and saved France. Let's hope that they can't sort this mess out and no PM.
Muslim like - Allah hu akbar 💣💣💣💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥
All by design.
Absolutely
this world has gone to a sh!t hole
Still think you have democracy 😂😂
The interesting thing about Le Pen is she’s not really Far Right. Socially right wing but economically left wing so calling her far right is just wrong. It’s either centrist or just a bit confusing
@@chnbal hahahaha so true
@@chnbalthey also love Islam
@@ansc6472what's wrong with Islam ??🤔
It's all about optics
"French fries"
Brown sauce, mayonnaise, or ketchup. That is the question 🤔
@@manpreetbrar838malt vinegar and a little salt.
@guitarboogieboogie More like French Toast…
@@therealqueenofeverything curry sauce 🤣
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Some people are left wing come what may. Proven failures don't matter, however many times they are repeated.
Sorry, I must be missing something. Who are the proven failures? Do you mean Labour? The new Labour government? Stop eating those sour grapes.
France has spoken! The barrage against the racist RN stands! May the Nouveau Front Populaire form a minority or coalition government to bring about the needed democratic change - provided that the President of the Republic appoints a member of the NFP as PM 🔴
Goodbye France 👋🏻💀
God help us
Abrahamic god is the devil
They celebrating with voliance
Voliance is the best..😂
The far left, France is finished
They’ve stuck 2 fingers up to fascism. That’s what’s happened in France. 😉😎
Something stinks
Well it's as bad here why people voted for Labour I don't know
Because the Tories were unelectable failures and Reform went too far by advocating appeasement with Britain's actual enemy? It's not _that_ hard to understand Labour's parliamentary landslide when you don't look on it from a defeated rightist perspective.
For this matter, think like a flexible centrist or a foreign observer from outside Britain's borders, and it should become apparent. What happened was just pure tactical voting against an unpopular Conservative government and I do accept that it's not a good electoral strategy in the long-term. I understand it in this scenario, but it's flawed and unwieldy.
You can get any result you want if you pay the counters
France is now ahead of the UK to be the first European Islamic country with a Nuclear arsenal. ...... let that sink in .
Wreck the joint and go crazy if the other party might win, wreck the joint and go crazy if they win ?
That's France for you!
Freedom of political association is respected here? Two parties associated together & won. Another two parties associated & lost. Respect the outcome. Democracy is the rule of law.
Far right coaltition with right wing can change the table
It's France ! who cares ?
I don’t know how macron is there as he is openly married to a pdf, oh that’s right we don’t talk about things like that like we don’t talk about Bidens senility 😮
This has been obvious for decades.
Well, you can say good bye to the authentic French, they're gone.
France turning into Morocco...
French cooking will taste differently.
Bad news for the world, this is the first country to keep falling, I hope in Australia we can stop the Labor from the same thing…
Labor & Liberal are the same WEF puppets. Why can't people see this? WEF puppets are entrenched in western politics. All planned and they're doing well to all of our demise.
Left wing alliance new way to spell communist .
Marine won
Democracy?
Just a joke 😢.
The one permanent, inherent, and probably irreparable flaw of democracy is its inclusive nature. Democracy gives a voice to all, as it should. Even to the far-left _and_ far-right who would both abuse such a fundamental gift by eroding said democracy in their own ways for their own benefits.
Yes, I'm calling out both edges of the spectrum. Sue me.
This election and those riots on the streets really do represent true democracy at work. And I don't say that as a compliment. It's a criticism. It's a reminder of how democracy, though fundamentally precious, can turn a nation's people against each other if mismanaged.
Correction: Marion create a mess alright…but it’s the French citizens that’ll have to live with it …
The French dont stand for anyones BS…… Vive la France!
well they did when a certain Austrian came a knocking , and well the German Bismarck , and Wellington, Nelson, Henry V , the list goes on
@@davidmrenton its 2024 You DIM Gibbon, GROW UP!
@@davidmrentonpoor history knowledge, people ≠ leader, most of France was in the resistance standing their ground during ww2
@@nuabe8285 'most of France was in the resistance standing their ground during ww2' You are absolutely sure about that claim, are you?
@@nuabe8285 the French resistance was one of the least effective in WW2, the most being the Greeks, and Yugoslavs
Most of France wasn't in the resistance , most was busy helping the Germans
there where around 500k people in the resistance out of 41 million
the French Vichy Army had 600k men
If le pen had won the left would’ve rioted in the streets ….. and the left won and they still rioted in the streets 😂😂
What is wrong with the French voters ….let the circus now begin
Good luck to Starmer with dealing with this, forget the boats they will all be coming over on cruise ships now 💥
The sad thing is that it's not entirely the voters. In terms of vote share in this second round, Lepen got ~36% (~10,000,000), Left Alliance got ~25% (~7,000,000) and Macron got ~24% (~6,800,000) of votes. Its the flawed electoral system which has the top three results reversed when it comes to seats won and therefore power.
And it won't be non-European migrants on boats, it'll be moderate French escaping a situation where both wings grow more radicalized against each other. No further doubt about it, France is ready to re-enact the Spanish Civil War and destabilise the entire English Channel by doing so.
But we can't blame them for it, right? It's France. They have a long history of violence and bloodthirst when it comes to politics. And they embrace that trait. Only France could be counted on to upheave their own state so messily.
We think it's bad in Britain but compared to France the UK is like a calm and civilised Country - which it definitely ain't!
Who counts the votes?
"He who counts the votes controls the outcome"
Quote Stalin ‘It’s not important who gives the votes but who counts the votes’
Thank god im not french- they’re incredibly left wing anyway and it annoys me, even le pen has very left wing policies , especially on economics, where she turned from pro business to pro working class
Finally, you guys have something to talk about other than the Sussexes! Thank the Lord! 😏
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Well...!!! Had expected this to happen, long long ago already...! With all these protestors, France had indeed turned into a second GAZA strip...!☝️🙄😬🫤
I have tried to lift France out the mud, But she will return to her errors and vomitings, one cannot prevent the French for being French.:- Charles De Gaulle
France invaded AGAIN ????
We won't go in and save them in three years. Trump won't do it and I'm glad. They need to start learning Arabic.
The sad thing is - so will we now we have 5 years of Labour
Support for the right is rising fast, support for the left is falling... Only a matter of time
I’m not so sure anymore.
@@Arturest when the left is forced to amalgamate to stop you, they're losing ground fast
True but people need to come to grips with the fact that in order to win things are going to have to get ugly.
@@KINGDJT they're going to have to rebel against media which is controlled by globalists who then affect the election results everywhere too much, they are trying to muffle the cries of ordinary people en masse
“You don’t know what’s going to happen” 😳 The writing is largely on the wall!!!
Bye bye France
Who knows what's going to happen?
Anyone who paid attention at any time in the last twenty plus years.
France? Hate to say it, but YOU asked for this.
Enjoy.
The once left wing are now extreme far left .the once conservatives are now liberal . Reform party are the common sense party .
Ah, yes, because nothing said common sense like bigotry and a concord with the Kremlin. Reform ironically needs significant reform themselves.
Sounds even worse than our shambles of a voting system, this is democracy is it 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
france now an islamist state london next?
London isn't a state. It's a city 😂
@@AntonSmyth-od6rc Londonistan the islamic state
It has happened "The lunatics are running the asylum".
So it'll be a riotous Paristan Olympics 2024 🤣