@@keepyourselfsafe6554 Sasuke: Ok Naruto let’s follow Boruto’s chakra and help him against Jigen. *Uses Rinnegan* Also Adult Sasuke: I need to preserve Chakra so we can return home. Gets stabbed by Boruto even though he has two of the most powerful visual eyes in the show. Sakura: Tsunade, it seems I finally caught up with these two!
dude, the kage of the earth village power is just to put some rock on her fist, the kages are all trash in boruto so I wouldn't be so sur that the kage would get beaten by them, not because sasuke is powerful, but because they are all weak (except perhaps Gaara). The problem is that the kage are just previous underling of that village that were not improved in boruto or worse were weakened compared to when naruto was little.
@@Leon-uu4wk fr. especially when people took this meme too literally and thought sasuke actually has chakra problems when its a one time filler arc thing
@@debunkedbyeren definitely don’t blow it out of proportion when you think of how limited he uses any of his jutsu, and he doesn’t even use that many rinnegan jutsu like how he did in war arc. He got nerfed hard asf
@@uchihaitachi5235 what rinnegan jutsu would be useful almighty push can be overpowered by someone stronger chibaku tensie wouldn't do anything all the summons are weaker than shippuden sage naruto all the assura paths moves can be shrunk down and the soul rip ability can be resisted like how kcm naruto did so tell me what would've been useful
@@uchihaitachi5235 He literally used the STRONGEST technique of the STRONGEST path of pain, Chibaku Tensei on Momoshiki and Momo broke out of it in seconds. Those paths of pain are fodder in the boruto top tiers. Also, the running out of chakra thing is cherry picking BS. Jigen had way more chakra than Sasuke and he ran out of 90% in just a few minutes. Its all about the power being used.
@@joefowl5926 do you know how tired shippuden sasuke shouldve been after the kaguya fight ? INCLUDING FIGHTING MADARA AND NEARLY DYING and you k ow the rest of the story.
@@david.amuiki yh but it would've been boring if they were like let's take a break so I can get my chakra so I figure they created a bit of a plot hole to keep the right intense
Sasuke drained of chakra is like his younger self dishing out 2-3 chidori then running out of chakra. War Arc Sasuke spammed the shid out of his chidori variations and Rinnegan abilities.
It’s almost as if he’s always using EMS and rinnegan 24/7 and they both have jutsu that take an enormous amount of chakra and drain chakra significantly over time while in use? Hmmm 🤔
@@TheProtagonist_1 War arc was full of plot holes, retcons, unbelievable power scaling and almost everyone somehow survived and didn’t run out of chakra. Sasuke never had the massive chakra reserves like uzumakis had, they just didn’t make him “run out” because it wasn’t plot convenient. You expected kishimoto to make sasuke look weak in the final battles before the end of the series? Cmon man. At least admit the final fights of the series were way too nonsensical. No way Naruto and sasuke fought for days, fought the big bad villains in multiple forms, fought the goddess of chakra, fought each other and still didn’t run out of chakra? That’s a bit nonsensical, kishimoto blew their powers and stamina out of proportion.
@@tepbuckley5908 do u know how much chakra , focus energy is bein produced to do space time ninjutsu or portal hoppin? eve kaguya at sum point got exhausted from usin the space time ninjutsu which she had ( which granted is stronger dan sasuke's ) but jus shows dat it takes up alot
Here’s how I describe the Kage fighting Momoshiki: All of the other Kage: fight without dying, which compared to everyone else in the verse is huge Naruto in base: actually fights Momoshiki and isn’t on the extreme backfoot
Can they get sasuke a damn arm now?! Guy has been fighting nerfed before he lost the rinnegan. An arm like Narutos would be sick. But a prosthetic arm would be perfectly fine. I need to see him with 2 arms again
Wish they would but then that would defeat the purpose of him losing his rinnegan. It’s obvious that he only lost his rinnegan for story purpose making him weaker and not having him be able to travel through dimensions which is like the whole thing with the story now. They need to make him somewhat weaker or else power scaling will start to not make sense
@@jalexxn5015 but they have been trying to make sasuke on par with or slightly weaker than Naruto the whole damn time. Like can sasuke just get his chance to be the strongest and save the village over naruto for once? He is the cooler fighter in my opinion. Just more diverse in his moves and it was displayed all through Naruto. Just wish he could be the stronger one for a chance considering the show is about boruto now…. Just my opinion
It’s pretty retarded how Sasuke made it his job to fight literal gods but refuses to get another arm. Maybe he could have kept his Rinnegan from getting stabbed if he had two arms at the time.
It took Madara decades with the chunk he bit off Hashirama put inside his chest to develop the rinnegan. Maybe be attached to the ten tails husk helped since those were being powered by Hashirama's cells, I think. How long do you think it would take Sasuke to develop the rinnegan in his right eye with a left arm made out of Hashirama's cells? Would him having half of the essence of Hagoromo chakra help?
I strongly disagree that both Naruto and Sasuke at full power were needed to beat momoshiki because he was getting thrashed that entire fight once they got serious. It would’ve definitely taken one of them only.
Plus naruto was weakaned and momoshiki was amped because he absorbed his chakra and base naruto was still able to put up a fight. Even more so in the mnga.
@@accwontletmereplyanti-mobm7104 in all honesty momo could kill both but do to plot armor he didn't just like how kaguya could've killed them the moment she showed up but didn't... Naruto and Sasuke are not strong at all they just have plot armor 99% of the time.
I actually think nerfed Sasuke vs nerfed Boruto's dad would be a lot closer than you guys gave it credit for. I'm fairly certain that a massive rasenshuriken would still rip right through an EMS Susanoo like paper, and when it comes to raw physical strength, Naruto probably still has it in the bag. Sasuke might outspeed him now without KCM2 amp but I don't think Susanoo would really pose much of an issue for Naruto to tear through. The fight would largely come down to close combat and Naruto already proved in the valley of the end that even without sage mode he's more than capable of squaring up with rinnegan sasuke once clones are on the table. I personally think the fight would just be a coinflip, largely depending on why they're fighting. If Sasuke suddenly decides he hates being nerfed and wants to go back to being psycho Sasuke Naruto probably slaps him through the power of plot convenience. If they're just having a friendly fight to sharpen their skills, it's a little more up in the air. Maybe Sasuke has the advantage if Naruto forgot to drink his milk for the day.
I think as long as Naruto fights to really defeat/kill, he would win. Whenever he fought Sasuke, he was still always fighting just to stay alive/stop Sasuke. But Sasuke was clearly fighting with everything he had, to kill Naruto.
Even for Naruto x Sasuke vs Momo, Naruto used a ton of chakra to protect the village AND got chakra drained by momoshiki from the time they left the village to the time Sasuke, Boruto and the Kage showed up so if Sasuke opening a portal nerfed them to the same level I'd have to assume Naruto's chakra reserves were still well above Sasuke at that point.
I agree that a Rasenshuriken can break through a Susanoo, but the Amaterasu and Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi can just annihilate every single Rasenshuriken Naruto throws. Sasuke can also change the chakra forms of the Amaterasu to make it cover his Susanoo so that the Rasenshuriken can't penetrate it. Then Sasuke would just spam Blaze Release projectiles until Naruto gives in because Naruto can't survive Amaterasu anymore without his chakra cloak provided by Kurama.
@@amberknight7301 Naruto's still got the reflexes to react to amaterasu, and could just make a clone to tank it for him the same way borushiki did. While Sasuke probably has the defensive advantage due to Susanoo, it's likely that Naruto could still just force Sasuke to overuse his EMS and chakra, then try and end the fight once Sasuke has nothing left. Plus, it's likely that Naruto can still fly since the flight was a product of six paths sage mode, rather than a KCM. I think Naruto still has the advantage in reflexes and maneuverability.
One thing to note about Borushiki ambushing Sasuke is that Borushiki has the instinctive ability to suppress his chakra as the other Otsutsuki do(in the recent Boruto manga chapters Kawaki is shown to be able to do this and only Boruto was able to sense him). With that in mind, it's impressive that Sasuke could react to Borushiki in the first place when it was too late. Sasuke having an EMS/Rinnegan doesn't give Sasuke the ability to sense a suppressed Otsutsuki's chakra like Boruto and Kawaki.
@@WizardOrangeScorpion in original naruto they called him the “god of shinobi” but this was likely before they had the whole story planned out. So the scaling is all off
People complain about Sasuke not using all of his Rinnegan abilities when he literally used the absolute strongest apex ability of the Deva Path the strongest apex path of pain and Fused Momoshiki broke out of it in seconds.
Hello? The only reason that MF escaped was because of that professor throwing ninjutsus at him, otherwise it would be end of Battle there. Actually, it's a shame he never tried that again, or like any of the other Rinnegan paths like literally the one that could completely heal and restore his own chakra god dammit lol
Naruto should still be a lot stronger than all the previous Kage even without Kurama. He loses the massive KCM amp but due to Six Paths powers he still has perfect understanding of all of his jutsu he just can't spam Rasengan and Shadow Clones as hard.
I think he can, remember at Shippuden when Naruto fought against Kurama to gain his power? He spawned hundreds of Clones all with big Rasengan (with his own chakra)
@@bilaldemir8712 he’s talking about what naruto can do as an adult cause naruto has always been able to use 1k+ clones but adult naruto and six paths naruto can us multiple full power clones and thousands of regular clones with kurama. When he got kcm he was able to make even more that are harder to deal with like in the madra vs the alliance or kaguya fight
@Lucas Walker 🤦♂️ did you not watch the video naruto can fight momoshiki in base at 50% with no kcm or sage mode and your telling me hashirama that was only able to beat one of the weakest forms of madara is capable of beating adult naruto that is fighting with god like beings 👏👏 👍
@Lucas Walker you just criticised someone for "guesses" and you proceeded to put out the sentence "Hashirama beats all versions of adult Naruto" gg bruh, did you only watch compilations of Hashirama and Madara on youtube rather than the actual show?
@Lucas Walker how? Did he fight Kaguya? or ten tails Madara? or supply a whole army with chakra that cloaked them? got six paths chakra? What are these Hasirama feats that you're talking about that beats otsutski threats?or even Juubi? Did he bring peace among shinobis across all villages?
OK, regarding how much stronger Naruto and Sasuke are during the Momoshiki fight, versus their fight versus Kaguya: something everyone seems to forget is that Naruto and Sasuke were not capable of actually killing Kaguya, because her chakra and powerful are so far beyond their own. They were only able to SEAL her using a special jutsu designed for that very purpose. And they were SCARED during this fight, it seemed like she was so far beyond any version of Madara that she was nearly untouchable to them, and they had to apply as many hacks/tactics as possible to get any kind of advantage because her raw power was so immense. Then when they fight Fusion Momoshiki, who is at LEAST relative to Kaguya in terms of raw power, in ADDITION to actually being a skilled/competent fighter, they were so confident that they let Boruto into the fight to teach him about hard work or whatever. And ultimately destroyed him even after Naruto was nerfed by having half his chakra sucked out.
it you kill an otsutsuki they will just put a karma mark on you to to stop them from doing that you have to seal them and its pretty difficult to kill an otsutsuki because of that but your right they wernt strong enough to defeat her but naruto also fought for like 3 days and was getting tired so was sasuke who was fighting for like 1-2 days if they were not and fought her with full stamina who knows what would have happened
Madara used Susano'o BLIND and inside the biggest sand coffin in history, I'm sure he can go perfect with one MS now that his base is substancially stronger than that Madara was. Naruto got the biggest nerf, but until we get confirmation If he still has 6 paths powers (not sure if they were tied to Kurama, I personally think that is not the case) we cannot say for sure how they can be scaled to each other.
@@balloonb0y677 all that would have done is just amp his physical stats and sensory. wouldnt really allow him to being a susanoo while blind if he couldnt do it befor
this is a bad video tho , recycled content to farm youtube views . can xx beat the hokage , can madara beat the akatsuki , can 6path naruto beat tenten ect the answer is yes
But “he’s always out of chakra!” He’s nerfed!”. Sasuke is always seen using the full EMS with his full Rinnegan (6 tomoe) which people seem to have forgotten DRAINS CHAKRA OVER TIME. It’s canonically proven that the sharingan and the rinnegan drain lots of chakra over time, plus the abilities sasuke uses are massively chakra focused. Sasuke mentioned that using rinnegan portals costs a lot of chakra (which he uses often because he travels dimensions all the time, he also used it before every otsutsuki fight to portal there). Sasuke uses susanoo, chidori, rinnegan swap teleportation, planetary devastation, transformation jutsu, Amaterasu etc. Most of sasuke’s jutsu is ninjutsu based, which is obsolete against karma or Scientific ninja tools. Sasuke may run out of chakra more often than not for Plot reasons, but it’s not unreasonable for him to run out of chakra, he doesn’t have uzumaki levels of chakra reserves but he has a lot.
The real nerf of Sasuke to me was not only losing the curse mark but also Orchimaru's absorbed power. He lost power that's supposed to equal out to 1-5 tails Naruto in terms of power increase and was still relative to Naruto
I believe if he still had it, he would've did a lot more damage at the Kage Summit, be on par with Killer Bee in base, have a curse mark sasunoo on his own. Of he already became ridiculous ems and a 10x increase which I believe the curse mark is, he'd be broken. Maybe his only fall back will be the amount of chakra that cost to maintain but I'm sure Sasuke is smart enough optimize all of it I'm case of longer fights
Isshiki beat the pulp out of Sasuke before that. Do you still think that he will enough speed and strength after getting molly woop in previous battle.
It is plot convenience but it makes sense. Off guard Sasuke being nearly out of chakra, having his Sharingan turned off, barely being able to fight gets his eye stabbed by an Otsutsuki whose chakra can't be sensed.
I honestly think all Kage with nerfed Naruto would beat nerfed Sasuke. 1st still has the Wood Golem and 1000 hand sage mode jutsu. I think Sasuke would get worn out and lose after being unable to utilize Susano because his Chakra will run out.
You gotta understand the power cliff. Just imagine what Juubito did to Hashirama Hiruzen and Minato ect, but like several times worse. He'd literally just blitz and one tap them with no effort.
@@meunomenaoethiago284 Yeah , just like how he took that last bit of 9 tails chakra from Naruto at the end of shippuden Oh wait , nerfed sasuke doesn't have rinnegan , so he can't steal chakra
It's still kinda funny that they imply Hiruzen > Hashirama, as if Hiruzen could do shit against a majestic attire susanoo or do something like seal the movements of the ten tails
@@Nnothingg- you looked at that man and said “yea this looks like a young man” bro he was retired at that point already 😂😂😂 he retired to let Minato become the new Hokage bc he was already old
EMS is just removing the stamina issue blindness. MS is a big jump that gives the powerup and ems makes it a permanent powerup without losing your eyes. It was never stated EMS by default is more powerful than MS potency wise. Sage mode is similar powerup to MS but I think it's a case-by-case basis as the more chakra you have the better the sage mode. For example Naruto was considered more powerful as a sage compared to Sasuke's MS by the Tobi and Olivera dude(lol)
@@raducora7159 yea used to think this too. But i think the emotional powerup but talking your brothers is the actual powerup not so much just talking the eyes itself. To be fair i always felt it was up for debate because every time the uchiha get powerups it also comes with emo powerup too so it hard to say 100% it was due to taking the eyes from ur bro alone. Or maybe this just semantic and the emotion from taking ur brothers eyes and taking the eye is one and the same.
@@psukkar Well, the emotion trauma of taking a family member's eyes (doesn't have to be necessarely a sibling, could be parent or child) might as well be the cause of the power up. But bottom line is, an Uchiha does get a stronger Susanoo after going from Ms to EMS.
@@raducora7159 i dont think that EMS makes the perfect susanoo, if you see Sasuke first using it, it evolves to the armored bow and arrow version while fighting Danzo and then it evolves to the one with shield version that itachi had... and for example, Indra never had EMS because he was the only Uchiha at that time but because hes eyes didnt lose their light, he attained the perfect susanoo, so i guess Sasuke would have had perfect Susanoo with his MS if his eyes would have lasted a while more and if he could have taken the strain
@@NotMyAccount It's hard to consider Indra here, since he was such a close descendant of a pure Otsutsuki. He and Ashura were the first fork of Six Paths powers. What you say might as well be true, though, and the Susanoo might evolve that much even for a normal MS user if given enough time. But then again, a normal MS user goes blind before his Sosanoo evolves that much, so the EMS can still be seen at least as the necessary key to a power-up, if not a straight-out one.
4:12 Dms Madara is not stronger than hashirama, they are even. Regen is part of hasiramas kit, he’s able to get nicked like that because of it. Hell thats one of the things that makes him comparable to madara. You just straight up took something out of hashiramas arsenal.
By regen logic Tsunades stronger then Edo Madara because would have dead when she punched him without regen. Also Hashirama was stronger then valley of the end Madara. Hashirama had to beat him and Kurama lol.
Its even more impressive that some had to do it while restrained since some of them can't use Ninjutsu against them. Darui was fighting base Momoshiki with just his swordsmenship skills alone. Granted this wasn't an issue for Kinshiki. These gen of Kage are pretty beast (except for Chojuro).
Yea people don’t realize that the new kages fighting momo and Kim puts them on a whole new pedestal from the rest of the cast. Or they try to deny it and be biased against them
I think 4th Ninja war Darui and Sharingan Kakashi are in the same level. The way Darui analysed the battle and fought was a lot like Kakashi. However, I don't think these discussions mean anything anymore if the approach is now to keep character powers ambiguous. So until the writers start making the character powers clear again, these discussions mean nothing.
18:25 To be fair, Minato couldn’t imagine sealing the whole nine tails into one newborn baby. It had already been sealed inside of one body for years, and that body was his wife’s. It’d be kind of stupid of him to immediately forget that and think “well shit, I sure wish I could seal this whole beast into one host…!!”
Naruto still has the tailed beasts in him, so he can use boil release: unrivalled strength. That was able to overpower kaguya's vacuum fists which destroyed a perfect six path susanoo. Idk, just my POV
@@yahwehkno he used the 4 tails lava rasenshuriken against delta. And when kurama died, the rest of them met up inside naruto, this is only possible through their chakra.
Baryon mode is the strongest thing shown yes. But if the person can out last the time limit naruto is fked. Thing is that's very unlikely. Also his attacks say your chakra and life force so yh.
I mean yeah, Baryon Mode is kinda like a cheat code to just say Naruto could defeat anyone in the series. With Baryon Mode, he can, but you gotta consider whether he would even resort to using it, knowing it kills Kurama. The fact that Kurama didn’t even suggest that he uses Baryon Mode in the war is an indication of how desperate they need to be to use it
aren't you forgetting in every fight between Naruto and Sasuke, is that Sasuke was ALWAYS going all out to maim/kill while Naruto was ALWAYS holding back, so he wouldnt kill his friend?
Naruto in there first fight didn't hold back what so ever. He literally screams I'll break every bones in your body and also if u want to play that argument after awhile Sasuke was also holding sense he didn't want to be like Itachi.
@@ChristianSedaPlays their first Naruto was literally never stated to be holding back. In fact, The guy got amp with Kyuubi chakra and later got 1 tail and went feral.
@@ninoroxsox no you’re the clown 🤡. If we’re talking about nerfed sasuke without the rinnesharingan and just ems then MAYBE he’s weaker than hashirama and definitely weaker than naruto. Any other version of sasuke (past him getting six paths) would clap hashirama. Hashirama took one look at baby mode juubito and flat out said he’s weaker than him….. and he’s right. Naruto and sasuke fought juubito WITHOUT SIXPATHS
The Kaguya being scared thing maybe a bit overrated as the otsutsuki have shown to be concerned in any conflict area when they can be damaged at all. Especially when you look at how shinobi react to fear. Also Hashirama should play a stronger role at least against nerfed Sasuke he did face Madara's susanoo as well as the full nine tails with armor by himself. If it's a vs battle Sasuke has to actually take a proactive role he can't just keep flying. It could also be mentioned that the revived Madara that is over six paths Obito was said to be regaining his former strength and even though Hashirama said that six paths Obito was stronger than him he still had clones out, was facing Madara, and was nerfed as an edo although close to full power.
The kaguya being scared thing is to show that Momoshiki should be at bare minimum equal/ a threat to kaguya cause its not like she was scared of naruto or sasuke so it's not like she was just scared cause of conflict
@@Jorozco3708 but kaguya isn't scared of momoshiki that has been proven false as she's scared of the whole Otsutsuki clan because she literally betrayed them
@@Jorozco3708 she was of those seals and if you take a look at when she or any otsutsuki gets damaged vs before they get damaged they are much more proactive afterwards than before.
@@maadtee6281 no when it said she feared the clan she imagined kinshiki,momoshiki and urashiki. But they were weaker forms of those 3 meaning weaker forms of those 3 slam kaguya
@@badvibes2259 That was from anime filler though wasn’t it? It was just a representation of other Otsutsuki. I always took Kaguya fearing retribution for her betrayal to be a clan thing too. And remember Sasuke makes the statement that something stronger than Kaguya is coming but stresses that it’s just a hypothesis.
This is something i actually don't understand, it was stated in the shippuden manga that Sasuke's left eye is the one that holds the power of Amaterasu, which is his rinnegan eye, and his right eye allows him to use shape manipulation on the black flames, so how is Sasuke still able to use Amaterasu?
The big problem most people are ignoring here is 8 gates guy. He couldn't kill 1 eye madara before tree, and I am pretty sure as long as he's not Genjutsu stopped Guy will kill the first 6 kages with 8 gates open and then die himself.
Idk why I watch these. They are well made and interesting but I’ve never even seen an episode of Naruto. And hearing all the names and titles and buffs, I’m just so lost. But it’s still a good watch and the animation in Naruto is great and I love seeing the fights and looking them up later
Don't watch it, naruto and shippuden without filler are good but Boruto comes along and takes a fat dump on that. If you are gonna watch it, don't watch Boruto, I wish I hadn't ruined the series for myself by watching some of that dogshit.
I don't recommend it. It has a really good beginning, but it devolves into a DBZ-style exploding mountains type of show. The show focuses only on Naruto and Sasuke the way DBZ only focuses on Goku and Vegeta.
@@iRazenrak Totally agree, it would have been MUCH better if it stayed that gritty like the first show was. The dark, gritty story where the anbu black ops are the most powerful and the villages are constantly at war and spying on each other. But the Naruto character fundamentally doesn't belong in a world like that, he would be maimed and killed if it stayed that way so they had to devolve it into dbz.
I learned most of the character names from these lol, stopped watching the show not even halfway through shippuden and know nothing about the alien ppl
Naruto solos again with some difficulty Narutos sage mode frog slap does a lot of damage, the higher defense you have Narutos fought Kurama in base as well, so being the small vs large one in the fight isnt much new for him
It's literally just a battle of power cliffs Moreover, I'd love to see them fight a serious Hashirama just he was different in terms of how much held back against Madara. Even if it's just base I'd love to see them go all out.
@@kingsiretheog Hashi held back vs Madara his entire life. Idk how y'all don't get this. He was Asura's reincarnation.... Asura pledged to end the feud and cleanse his brother's heart of hatred. Hashi, himself, was always stronger than Madara (who's admitted this since childhood), yet he ALWAYS tried to stop the fighting and extend peace to Madara. When you have someone like Madara, with EMS and Kurama, fighting vs Hashi who has ALWAYS tried to maintain peace, it should be obvious Hashi was trying to deflect/outlast Madara until the VERY last second when it became obvious he HAD to kill Madara for the sake of the village. It's like Naruto x Sasuke's final battle. Sasuke was coming full force at Naruto trying to kill him, while Naruto held back the entire fight, never trying to kill him and instead just trying to outlast him. Naruto had multiple chances to kill Sasuke, but didn't, which in turn led to those instances Sasuke had a CHANCE to win, but couldn't. Clear gap between Naruto x Sasuke just like it was a clear gap between Hashi and Madara when they were alive.
@@dirge44 so you can't read or you just don't comprehend very well? Hashi and Madara fought for over a day, so Hashi nearly died from exhaustion more than anything else. Hashi was not trying to kill Madara from the onset of the match, he was trying to simply stop Madara's attempt to kill him and defend his against Madara and Kurama's attack. Naruto nearly died from fighting Sasuke, NOT because Sasuke was that much of a threat to him, but because Naruto literally spent the whole fight simply canceling out Sasuke's attacks, trying to outlast him (sound familiar?) instead of actually trying to attack Sasuke..... So no shit Hashi almost died, but that doesn't change anything I've said or the face that Hashi was just in a whole other league than Madara.
I liked mei and the tsuchikage because they kinda showed that kekkai genkai could be useful after sharingan and wood style became well known and the focus of the series. And the 100 healings seal also was a cool showcase of how a seal could be used.
Except when minato uses flying raijin. Remember flying raijin is not always turned on but lighting cloak is. BTW(Sasuke lightning cloak>raikage lightning cloak)
Hashirama was in the same position as naruto. Fighting someone he doesn't want to kill that really wants to kill him. Both Hashirama and naruto were holding back while the 2 Uchias used everything they had.
Nah. Hashirama was absolutely ready to kill him thats what he ended up doing. Do not forget that they often fought each other with the reason to kill each other during the wars.
He didn’t want to kill Madara even in the wars. Why do you think he spared Madara’s life last time? Dude was about to kill himself at Madara’s request.
@@josephrogers3666 It was only at the beginning. Naruto is more kind than Hashirama, we have seen it several times throughout the story. Naruto always said that he would try to make Sasuke come back, Hashirama never said stuff like that. Also Hashirama grew up during the warring states where he had become more cold than Naruto, so he must have always known that someday he had to kill him. Hashirama left Madara alive because Madara wanted to kill himself because he lost and that made him realize that he still is a good guy and that would end all the wars when the Uchiha leader would work together. You have not watched the show and stop comparing Naruto with Hashirama just because they are Reincarnations. If Madara had beaten Hashirama in the same scenario he would let him survive too, because Madara has similar respect for Hashirama.
@RR Organization i agree, i just dont think sasuke stats are still the same. Cuz if thats the case he basically wasn’t nerfed like outside of rinnegan abilities sasuke was already busted, so its basically like saying hes still as strong as the otsutski but with less hax. I dont agree with this since it’s obvious that naruto and sasuke should still be relative but if sasuke didn’t lose stats he completely stomps naruto now
@@plantgang8738 He has one-half of the nine tails. Hashirama fodderized Madara + the full Nine Tails. And Minato got counter blitzed by one-eye Juubi Madara. He's irrelevant to any current scaling.
I don’t know if you’ve done it already but please do a Perfect Susano’O Kakashi vs Hashirama VSs. I’ve seen WAAAAAAY too many people say that Hashirama beats Perfect Susano’O Kakashi and I personally do not know what kind drugs they’re on.
"Madara was stronger than Hashirama but Hashirama could heal himself." Okay so by that logic I can say "Madara is trash compared to Hashirama because he had to control 9 tails to come close to beating Hashirama"
@@tjhicks3600 It's less that they like to downplay Hashirama and more like Swag likes to wank off the Uchiha and Seth sorta goes back and forth placating Swags raging Uchiha fanboyism. When Seths by himself, most of the time, he's respects Hashirama power. Repeatedly Seth has recognized Hashirama as the strongest non-6 paths character outside of 8 gates guy in his ranking the most powerful people in verse video. "The first hokage is stronger than you think" is yet another example of Seth recognizing Hashirama unquestionable superiority to Madara. It's only when Swag comes on the channel when he's like "well _maybe_ there kind of relative" or "you could argue that Madara is _actually_ stronger". Dafuq?
@@MrCcsboy Lol if Swag could change the name of the series to "Uchiha" he would. The only reason he isn't spewing forth non-stop uchiha content(for the naruto series) is because his viewers call out his blatant Uchiha fanboyism, so he feels the need to prove to his viewers and likely himself that he isn't a Uchiha fanboy. He's wanks all the Uchiha, it's not just Madara, although Madara has a special place in his heart. Repeatedly he's wanked off Sasuke using Naruto's feats, as if they are equal. Keep in mind he and Seth will say the Sannin arent equal even though that is stated, because "common sense and scaling" has "shown" otherwise, but then take statements like Sasuke equals Naruto as gospel. Same with Jiraiya and Itachi, he'll disregard that Itachi conceded himself weaker than Jiraiya to wank Itachi, but fail to do so with Naruto and Sasuke. This whole video is trying to upscale Sasuke by downplaying Hashirama to frame it as if Madara actually stood a chance against him. It's 2 Uchiha wanks for the price of one.
Lol they said borushiki is stronger than momoshiki. Its the other way around boruto charka doesnt even compare. Sasuke didnt sense momoshiki cause the otsuki have a way of concealing their presence. In recent chapter boruto is getting an upgrade because of momoshiki by way of the karma. The clan has a absurd amount of charka but this is also their weakness in arrogance
technically even if it’s just by a hair he should be stronger code explained karma and said all their mellenia of battle experience just gets overlaid onto whoever has the karma so he’d be gaining whatever boruto has but yea your kinda right cuz i’m sure momo can do anything boruto can do and more but he still adds borutos stregnth to his even if it’s just a lil.
I've noticed the ichigo vs naruto animation blowing up a lot on tiktok so congrats. A lot of people didn't site you or Chuck but people seem to love it so dope
24:49 there's one problem about that because base kawaki was reacting and actually somewhat fight boroshiki and sasuke kinda cought him off guard(maybe he didn't want to fight them 1v2) whale that Same kawaki with karma was weaker than base naruto 🤷♂️
I hate when delusionals say Kaguya was afraid of Momoshiki, she was afraid of the clan. Im sure Momoshiki would shit his pants if kaguya and kinshiki were coming to get him. She claps Momoshiki
Lmao u have no Idea how much I'm laughing at u while being so triggered by this dum comment 😂, I agree that kaguya was scared by the clan but she was def scared of momoshiki aswell, plus it's quite obvious momoshiki slaps kaguya
Yeah and they did not know borushiki would come out. Momoshiki kinda implied he would get pummeled by sasuke when sasuke blasts his chidori in borushiki mode so.
Also the Karma activates the Otsutsuki's years of fighting experience and power. So it's basically Base Momoshiki at 80% power, blitzing an off guard, fatigued Sasuke who just fought the strongest character in the series (excluding Baryon Naruto). People may not like it, but it makes sense.
I 100% agree that kakashi isn't a threat to Boruto era Sasuke or Naruto but I'm very glad Seth and Swag acknowledged that he's still a very powerful chracter and kage his growth post War Arc is insane.
Sasuke ain’t beating Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto easily. Nor do I think he could if the fight went on for long at all. Naruto would out last him handily. Lava style rasenshuriken was enough to cut the god tree down and damage juubi Madara, it would demolish susanoo.
Dude that Madara was way weaker than the Sasuke that fought against God tree absorbed Madara. His Perfect Susanoo is strong enough to fight somewhat against Kaguya and stalemate Naruto at final valley.
@@Primeking2345 is Sasuke susanoo stronger than the God Tree in durability? If anything it would be equal to it. And lava style rasenshuriken cut it down with ease. We’ve only seen Sasuke’s susanoo fight six paths Sage mode Naruto with the help of chakra from the 8 other tailed beasts
Feel like the round 3 wouldn't be that straight forward. Since the whole theme has been "Naruto and Sasuke are equals", then Naruto losing Kurama wouldn't put him thatttt much lower than Sasuke after losing the rinneagan. I would assume that Naruto's sage mode has also gotten stronger plus he knows more jutsus now too. I gotta believe that Naruto still has some sort of abilities that make him rival Sasuke.
Exactly, like if we ever see them fight again i bet naruto will use more variety of jutsu, and maybe we’ll see som toad summons or something like that, id still give the edge to sasuke for now tho
@@minalkulsange9507 yes i think so. But I also think Sage mode is being slept on. When naruto used it vs pain he had known it for barely any time. Imagine him training and evolving his sage mode
Gonna be real. I don't take any Sasuke debate with you seriously after your "Sasuke VS Rock Lee - Who Would Have Won?" video. Keep up the good content tho.
@@vietcongwarlord6931 No. I just appreciate debates with intelligence and not bias dick sucking. Check out the comments for the vid. Its like a Christmas Tree. Lit up with comments calling out the clear bias.
@@trodu1940 why would I have hurt feelings about a bias debate about fictional characters from an anime. Are you salty they got called out on it or what bruh
Considering how Sasuke could have potentially gone either way vs Naruto, the most busted character to ever spawn in his own Universe, and no one else even compares to God-Tier Naruto, I'd say this isn't even a question, PRIME Hashirama or not, it's a better premise to ask if Sasuke could take them all on at the same time AND all the nerf retcons at the same time. Now THAT'S a fight!
Either way? No. First off, Sasuke had just Sealed Away and Absorbed ALL of the Chakra from Tailed Beasts which included Half of Kurama Vs Naruto with just half of Kurama and a less than a "Tail Worth of Chakra" from each of the Bijuu at his disposal. Sasuke was fighting with Killing Intent while Naruto never once fought to kill Sasuke. In no way in 1 on 1 at that time, meaning without Tailed Beasts, could Sasuke come close to defeating that version of Naruto. It would be a medium difficulty sweep for Naruto.
@@maylabrown4584 if they let sasuke use the full extent of his rinnegan in that fight it would have or at least shouldve gone in sasukes favour. The writing made them comparable. Sasuke took bijou chakra. Naruto had kurama assist him in the nature energy. It was obvious sasuke wanted to kill him but he also wanted to kill him at his best in an all out battle. Plot gives and takes accordingly and its inconsistent as shit.
@@trentstringer5144 Sasuke wasn't trained in using all of the Rinnegan abilities yet, hell not even Obito or Madara was, only Nagato got the time to train with the Rinnegan until he mastered it. Sasuke taking all the Tailed Beasts and absorbing their Chakra is a massive amp and then taking away half of Kurama from Naruto yet again. Only in that situation were they comparable, without plot getting in way, Naruto soundly takes the fight within a couple of minutes especially if he's going for the kill. Sasuke didn't want to kill Naruto at his best since he took away the other half of Kurama and sealed away the Tailed Beasts not allowing Naruto access more of their Chakra through the Sage of Six Paths Link. Sasuke wanted Naruto dead and buried so he could kill all of the Kage and everyone who got in his way of becoming the next Hokage (which technically he already was eligible for due to being trained by Kakashi and Orochimaru)
@@maylabrown4584 Bruh I see this excuse everywhere just because he didn’t want to kill sasuke doesn’t mean that he wasn’t going all out it’s litteraly the same thing with obito, naruto didn’t want to kill obito because of his past and stuff but that doesn’t mean that he could hold back on him since he was still evil and naruto didn’t hold back against obito despite not wanting to kill him because he was ten tails jinchurki trying to cast infinite tsukyomi. Sasuke could have killed naruto many of times and the battle would have ended with sasuke emerging as victor I will admit. So sasuke would have won but plot and other stuff/factors
@@DecimaarZ It's not an excuse, it's facts. Naruto never once gave up on Sasuke and was constantly on the defensive during the battle, Sasuke was constantly going for the kill and wanted Naruto dead. Obito and Sasuke aren't the same, Naruto wasn't holding back against Obito cause he didn't hold back against Pein, he's a nobody to him, and he only Talk No Jutused Obito cause there wasn't any other way for them to beat him at that point. Naruto didn't want to continue the cycle that Hashirama and Madara continued, even if Sasuke wanted to outright kill him from the start without remorse. Naruto would have won the easily without plot getting in the way, they literally had to give Sasuke ALL of the Tailed Beasts (which again, included HALF of Kurama) just for Sasuke to have a chance at killing Naruto.
As a person who's collected the Funko Pop Naruto line 100% since it started, it makes me super happy to see you using the Funko Pops as references lmaooo
@@RedDeathAnims six paths for naruto is basically the same as madara and juubito so him being the 10 tails. The fact he doesn’t have kurama anymore means he shouldn’t have so6p. But i think he still has the other tailed beast so he still should have plenty of jutsu and also boil release which is a decent amp
@@n3onnova564 It’s up for debate whether or not Naruto still has Six Paths Sage mode, but a major indicator that he still does is that when Naruto first fought Isshiki in the Leaf village, we actually saw him go into Six Paths Sage mode, and then stack his Kurama cloak over the top. It’s the first time we’ve ever seen him go into both modes separately, because it usually just shows him going into both modes at the same time. I think there’s a good chance the animators did that on purpose to show that he doesn’t need Kurama to use Six Paths Sage mode, although we don’t know for sure until we next see him fight.
@@n3onnova564 That doesn’t automatically mean that. That just means there are multiple ways you can achieve Six Paths Sage Mode. Naruto wasn’t like Madara & Obito, so Hagoromo gifted Naruto Six Paths Sage Mode instead of making him earn it himself. You forget that Hagoromo became a 10 Tails Jinchuriki himself, so that explains how he obtained that power. He had it even after splitting the 10 Tails into Tailed Beasts. He did the 10 Tails work for Naruto in a sense. He gave Naruto half which is Six Paths Sage Mode.
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Would be interesting to see an indepth video of where you guys think the scaling for Boruto works. Are Chunin and Jonin stronger now since the Kage clearly are? If so how strong would they be if they where in Shippuden era. How strong are the Boruto Kage? We know they as a group can throw hands with Kinshiki, and Gaara Chojuro did pretty decent against Urashiki. What level are they REALLY at. Out of Control Obito? In control? One eyed Madara?
Urashiki lost due to plot and powerscalling in nsruto and boruto never made sence If it did why 8snt nauto boruto kawaki sasuke a jonin and the only 2 strong jonin were kakashi and guy others were just useless fodder
Its also worth noting sasuke's ability to use lightning cloak. Which allows his speed and maybe his strength to compare to KCM sage mode naruto, i'm surprised that no one mentioned this in the video.
@@slayed9602 He's never used a lightning cloak though. They show lightning and naruto's yellow chakra for visual effect. We've never seen sasuke sit there with a cloak of lightning around him and it's also never been stated so it's just flat out head canon to say he has the ability to use the lightning cloak. We only see it in certain instances where they just want to make the fights look flashy so we can attribute it to visual effect until we see otherwise.
Hashi held back vs Madara his entire life. Idk how y'all don't get this. He was Asura's reincarnation.... Asura pledged to end the feud and cleanse his brother's heart of hatred. This translated to Hashi wanting to find a way to unify his and Madara's clans to form peace and end war. Hashi, himself, was always stronger than Madara (who's admitted this since childhood), yet he ALWAYS tried to stop the fighting and extend peace to Madara throughout their lifetimes. While Madara was actively fighting out of vengeance and trying to kill Hashi, Hashi was fighting for his people and never killed Madara during his victories in battle. When you have someone with bloodlust like Madara, with EMS and Kurama, fighting vs Hashi who has ALWAYS tried to maintain peace, it should be obvious Hashi was stronger than him, but just trying to deflect/outlast Madara until the VERY last second when it became obvious he HAD to kill Madara for the sake of the village. It's like Naruto x Sasuke's final battle. Sasuke was coming full force at Naruto trying to kill him, while Naruto held back the entire fight, never trying to kill Sasuke and instead just trying to outlast him. Naruto had multiple chances to kill Sasuke, but didn't, which in turn led to those instances Sasuke had a chance to possibly win, but still couldn't. Clear gap between Naruto x Sasuke just like it was a clear gap between Hashi and Madara when they were alive.
I hate the hashirama downplay that happens so often in videos like these because Seth is on the record on multiple occasions claiming that there’s a chance hashirama grew in strength after he beat madara. I believe that he did get much stronger because of how close his fight against edo madara with rinnegan was. My point being that adult sasuke with just one EMS could honestly be beaten by Hashirama alone. Let alone two teleporters, the second best medical ninja of all time, and another two kage level fighters (kakashi, hiruzen) backing him up.
@@SRVaris with no rinnegan I think it’s a softer stomp than most people would think. You really think that adult sasuke with no rinnegan just stomps double rinnegan madara? Because it’s implied that hashirama in his prime (after the madara fight in the final valley) is as strong or stronger than double rinnegan madara.
@@Gyatskibbidy Yes I do think Sasuke effortlessly kills double Rinnegan Madara I would even say he could beat Juubidara (though this would be a pretty difficult fight) Sasuke still scales way higher then Hashirama, Base Naruto at 50% was able to fight Fused Momoshiki Sasuke is Much stronger then Base Naruto And again Hashirama is weaker then Juubito.
@@SRVaris that’s reanimated hashirama my guy. I’m saying the stronger, alive hashirama that has feats as an edo (because we know edos are weaker than living counterparts) that can support that he is stronger than the double rinnegan madara who though he could take out Juubito with no issue. Edo hashirama is roughly equal to that madara as an edo. So I believe both of them alive are higher tier just barely greater than juubito and I believe that’s the tier adult sasuke with no rinnegan is, and momoshiki.
@@sinabashirinejad1701 he isnt catching naruto in a genjutsu. He stomps the 5 Kage, but I don't see him taking naruto. 500 sage narutos shoving rasenshurkins at the susano. The susano isn't taking that.
@@welshnightmare why cant he catch naruto in a genjutsu. naruto isnt a genjutsu type at all, even with kurama. he couldn't break out any genjutsu without help or with the genjutsu user ending it themselves. Like literally sakura (a genjutsu type) saved him 3 times already from genjutsus, one being an otsukuki level like in the last movie. :)
@@saberfan naruto has more than enough experience not to look into his eyes for it. If it was as easy as that naruto would have lost at the valley of the end.
Adult Sasuke - teleports twice
Also Adult Sasuke - “Welp, guess I surrender.”
You mean “damn, I’m out of Chakra”
Sasuke: *Amaterasu!*
Also Adult Sasuke: shiiiiiittt, I’m out of Chakra
@@keepyourselfsafe6554 Sasuke: Ok Naruto let’s follow Boruto’s chakra and help him against Jigen. *Uses Rinnegan*
Also Adult Sasuke: I need to preserve Chakra so we can return home. Gets stabbed by Boruto even though he has two of the most powerful visual eyes in the show.
Sakura: Tsunade, it seems I finally caught up with these two!
@@TooQuickGrim Sakura: Well well well, *How the turn tables*
@@TooQuickGrim how old are u and did u rlly think that was funny?
“It’s not like Naruto’s getting beaten up or whacked around”
Shows clip of Naruto getting beaten up and whacked around 😂😂😂
Lmao I think he meant like how the kage were
@@djrichardson2000 think he was mostly referencing the manga
@@TheMiles65 probably right…still funny 😂
@@MansaVibez definitely lmao
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Every “Could ____ beat all the hokage?” is just a race to see how fast Tsunade can die 😂
Pretty much
mei and tsunade
The Tsunade lovers coming for your head
@@randomt800kiddo2 hokage*
@@craigime oh u right, i misread it as just the five kage
True answer: Sarada's dad would get clapped up in 3 minutes by all the hokage cuz he immediantly ran outta chakra throwing a kunai.
dude, the kage of the earth village power is just to put some rock on her fist, the kages are all trash in boruto so I wouldn't be so sur that the kage would get beaten by them, not because sasuke is powerful, but because they are all weak (except perhaps Gaara). The problem is that the kage are just previous underling of that village that were not improved in boruto or worse were weakened compared to when naruto was little.
@@arashoon7246 it's a joke
Ngl, this joke is now unfunny.
Dead meme.
@@TIDOGAD_FF_18 ik but its annoying
@@Leon-uu4wk fr. especially when people took this meme too literally and thought sasuke actually has chakra problems when its a one time filler arc thing
The Swag Madara jokes never get old
Yes they do
@@TheMilkMan905 if your a true fan they don’t
Facts! 💀
Moans
Been many years and I still laughing😂
"It's not like Naruto's getting beaten up or anything"
*Shows footage of Naruto literally being used to mop the floor*
Exactly
Sasuke: I went from *"I am the strongest in this world right now"* to *"I'm out of chakra"*
Naruto: It's not good to drink some beer
wasn't that "out of chakra thing" from time travel arc?
@@weezi2741 yeah people just blow it out of proportion
@@debunkedbyeren definitely don’t blow it out of proportion when you think of how limited he uses any of his jutsu, and he doesn’t even use that many rinnegan jutsu like how he did in war arc. He got nerfed hard asf
@@uchihaitachi5235 what rinnegan jutsu would be useful almighty push can be overpowered by someone stronger chibaku tensie wouldn't do anything all the summons are weaker than shippuden sage naruto all the assura paths moves can be shrunk down and the soul rip ability can be resisted like how kcm naruto did so tell me what would've been useful
@@uchihaitachi5235
He literally used the STRONGEST technique of the STRONGEST path of pain, Chibaku Tensei on Momoshiki and Momo broke out of it in seconds. Those paths of pain are fodder in the boruto top tiers.
Also, the running out of chakra thing is cherry picking BS. Jigen had way more chakra than Sasuke and he ran out of 90% in just a few minutes. Its all about the power being used.
“Nerfed Sasuke” is now solidified in the fanbase til’ the end of time.
But he rlly was nerfed i dont understand the ppl who cant accept it
@@david.amuiki people accept it but u can't say he was nerfed in urashiki arc because his chakra was low when it was stolen multiple times
@@joefowl5926 people are talking about sasuke without rinnegan
@@joefowl5926 do you know how tired shippuden sasuke shouldve been after the kaguya fight ? INCLUDING FIGHTING MADARA AND NEARLY DYING and you k ow the rest of the story.
@@david.amuiki yh but it would've been boring if they were like let's take a break so I can get my chakra so I figure they created a bit of a plot hole to keep the right intense
Sasuke drained of chakra is like his younger self dishing out 2-3 chidori then running out of chakra. War Arc Sasuke spammed the shid out of his chidori variations and Rinnegan abilities.
now as soon as he swaps places twice he’s out of chakra
It’s almost as if he’s always using EMS and rinnegan 24/7 and they both have jutsu that take an enormous amount of chakra and drain chakra significantly over time while in use? Hmmm 🤔
@@BryMakesArt it almost as If he did the same in the War ARC and didn't run out of chakra? hmm 🤔
@@TheProtagonist_1 War arc was full of plot holes, retcons, unbelievable power scaling and almost everyone somehow survived and didn’t run out of chakra. Sasuke never had the massive chakra reserves like uzumakis had, they just didn’t make him “run out” because it wasn’t plot convenient. You expected kishimoto to make sasuke look weak in the final battles before the end of the series? Cmon man.
At least admit the final fights of the series were way too nonsensical. No way Naruto and sasuke fought for days, fought the big bad villains in multiple forms, fought the goddess of chakra, fought each other and still didn’t run out of chakra? That’s a bit nonsensical, kishimoto blew their powers and stamina out of proportion.
@@tepbuckley5908 do u know how much chakra , focus energy is bein produced to do space time ninjutsu or portal hoppin? eve kaguya at sum point got exhausted from usin the space time ninjutsu which she had ( which granted is stronger dan sasuke's ) but jus shows dat it takes up alot
I love how Nerfed Sasuke is a thing. It's a meme with Boruto's dad potential.
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@@lillith4885 r/whoooosh
Sarah?
Here’s how I describe the Kage fighting Momoshiki:
All of the other Kage: fight without dying, which compared to everyone else in the verse is huge
Naruto in base: actually fights Momoshiki and isn’t on the extreme backfoot
Can they get sasuke a damn arm now?! Guy has been fighting nerfed before he lost the rinnegan. An arm like Narutos would be sick. But a prosthetic arm would be perfectly fine. I need to see him with 2 arms again
Fuck it, keep the limited chakra thing going with a susanoo arm
Wish they would but then that would defeat the purpose of him losing his rinnegan. It’s obvious that he only lost his rinnegan for story purpose making him weaker and not having him be able to travel through dimensions which is like the whole thing with the story now. They need to make him somewhat weaker or else power scaling will start to not make sense
@@jalexxn5015 but they have been trying to make sasuke on par with or slightly weaker than Naruto the whole damn time. Like can sasuke just get his chance to be the strongest and save the village over naruto for once? He is the cooler fighter in my opinion. Just more diverse in his moves and it was displayed all through Naruto. Just wish he could be the stronger one for a chance considering the show is about boruto now…. Just my opinion
It’s pretty retarded how Sasuke made it his job to fight literal gods but refuses to get another arm. Maybe he could have kept his Rinnegan from getting stabbed if he had two arms at the time.
It took Madara decades with the chunk he bit off Hashirama put inside his chest to develop the rinnegan. Maybe be attached to the ten tails husk helped since those were being powered by Hashirama's cells, I think. How long do you think it would take Sasuke to develop the rinnegan in his right eye with a left arm made out of Hashirama's cells? Would him having half of the essence of Hagoromo chakra help?
I strongly disagree that both Naruto and Sasuke at full power were needed to beat momoshiki because he was getting thrashed that entire fight once they got serious. It would’ve definitely taken one of them only.
Plus naruto was weakaned and momoshiki was amped because he absorbed his chakra and base naruto was still able to put up a fight. Even more so in the mnga.
Naruto was weakened from Chakra drainage and Sasuke was weakened from having teleport the whole squad too
@@accwontletmereplyanti-mobm7104 in all honesty momo could kill both but do to plot armor he didn't just like how kaguya could've killed them the moment she showed up but didn't... Naruto and Sasuke are not strong at all they just have plot armor 99% of the time.
Kaguya was holding back
@@Wiseking-Thefirst are you stupid '-'
“I don’t think we have to go into Tsunade.”
Hang on now let’s not speak too quickly.
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Well shit don’t mind if I do then
nice sombra pfp
SHE GETS CLAPPED BY ONE ARM SASUKE RELAX
@@princedame9534 giggity
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Nice! Shiyt I think thats swell. Gj
Was you paid to type this?
@@quincy9908 no....
@@quincy9908 bro its a good cause
Cheapskate
I actually think nerfed Sasuke vs nerfed Boruto's dad would be a lot closer than you guys gave it credit for. I'm fairly certain that a massive rasenshuriken would still rip right through an EMS Susanoo like paper, and when it comes to raw physical strength, Naruto probably still has it in the bag. Sasuke might outspeed him now without KCM2 amp but I don't think Susanoo would really pose much of an issue for Naruto to tear through. The fight would largely come down to close combat and Naruto already proved in the valley of the end that even without sage mode he's more than capable of squaring up with rinnegan sasuke once clones are on the table.
I personally think the fight would just be a coinflip, largely depending on why they're fighting. If Sasuke suddenly decides he hates being nerfed and wants to go back to being psycho Sasuke Naruto probably slaps him through the power of plot convenience. If they're just having a friendly fight to sharpen their skills, it's a little more up in the air. Maybe Sasuke has the advantage if Naruto forgot to drink his milk for the day.
I think as long as Naruto fights to really defeat/kill, he would win. Whenever he fought Sasuke, he was still always fighting just to stay alive/stop Sasuke. But Sasuke was clearly fighting with everything he had, to kill Naruto.
Even for Naruto x Sasuke vs Momo, Naruto used a ton of chakra to protect the village AND got chakra drained by momoshiki from the time they left the village to the time Sasuke, Boruto and the Kage showed up so if Sasuke opening a portal nerfed them to the same level I'd have to assume Naruto's chakra reserves were still well above Sasuke at that point.
*Naruto, put some RESPECK on Boruto’s dads name cuhz
I agree that a Rasenshuriken can break through a Susanoo, but the Amaterasu and Blaze Release: Kagutsuchi can just annihilate every single Rasenshuriken Naruto throws. Sasuke can also change the chakra forms of the Amaterasu to make it cover his Susanoo so that the Rasenshuriken can't penetrate it. Then Sasuke would just spam Blaze Release projectiles until Naruto gives in because Naruto can't survive Amaterasu anymore without his chakra cloak provided by Kurama.
@@amberknight7301 Naruto's still got the reflexes to react to amaterasu, and could just make a clone to tank it for him the same way borushiki did. While Sasuke probably has the defensive advantage due to Susanoo, it's likely that Naruto could still just force Sasuke to overuse his EMS and chakra, then try and end the fight once Sasuke has nothing left. Plus, it's likely that Naruto can still fly since the flight was a product of six paths sage mode, rather than a KCM. I think Naruto still has the advantage in reflexes and maneuverability.
I like that they just casually dropped that Tobirama graveyard post
One thing to note about Borushiki ambushing Sasuke is that Borushiki has the instinctive ability to suppress his chakra as the other Otsutsuki do(in the recent Boruto manga chapters Kawaki is shown to be able to do this and only Boruto was able to sense him). With that in mind, it's impressive that Sasuke could react to Borushiki in the first place when it was too late. Sasuke having an EMS/Rinnegan doesn't give Sasuke the ability to sense a suppressed Otsutsuki's chakra like Boruto and Kawaki.
Plus sasuke also had his sharingan turned off and didn't know anything about momoshiki taking over boruto's body till borushiki attacked him
@@gameman1816 he had his Rinnegan and enough chakra charged in it to teleport so plot you can tell because of the tomoei
It does it did before
Prime Hiruzen scaling above Hashirama still just does not compute 🤯
That means Hiruzen should’ve been able to handle wood style no diff and all those experiments on other ninja were pointless.
Why?
@@WizardOrangeScorpion in original naruto they called him the “god of shinobi” but this was likely before they had the whole story planned out. So the scaling is all off
Hiruzen is op. He mastered all elements. God Of Shinobi. period.
@@MansaVibez no wood style isn’t based of strength it’s a kekkei genkai. Like hakus ice mirrors you can’t just learn it
People complain about Sasuke not using all of his Rinnegan abilities when he literally used the absolute strongest apex ability of the Deva Path the strongest apex path of pain and Fused Momoshiki broke out of it in seconds.
Im out of chakra
In which scene??
Right scene naruto and sasuke vs fused momoshinki when he used plantert devastion
Hello? The only reason that MF escaped was because of that professor throwing ninjutsus at him, otherwise it would be end of Battle there. Actually, it's a shame he never tried that again, or like any of the other Rinnegan paths like literally the one that could completely heal and restore his own chakra god dammit lol
@@JoaoPedro-ke2xc umm, no
Naruto should still be a lot stronger than all the previous Kage even without Kurama. He loses the massive KCM amp but due to Six Paths powers he still has perfect understanding of all of his jutsu he just can't spam Rasengan and Shadow Clones as hard.
I think he can, remember at Shippuden when Naruto fought against Kurama to gain his power? He spawned hundreds of Clones all with big Rasengan (with his own chakra)
@@bilaldemir8712 he’s talking about what naruto can do as an adult cause naruto has always been able to use 1k+ clones but adult naruto and six paths naruto can us multiple full power clones and thousands of regular clones with kurama. When he got kcm he was able to make even more that are harder to deal with like in the madra vs the alliance or kaguya fight
@Lucas Walker 🤦♂️ did you not watch the video naruto can fight momoshiki in base at 50% with no kcm or sage mode and your telling me hashirama that was only able to beat one of the weakest forms of madara is capable of beating adult naruto that is fighting with god like beings 👏👏 👍
@Lucas Walker you just criticised someone for "guesses" and you proceeded to put out the sentence "Hashirama beats all versions of adult Naruto" gg bruh, did you only watch compilations of Hashirama and Madara on youtube rather than the actual show?
@Lucas Walker how? Did he fight Kaguya? or ten tails Madara? or supply a whole army with chakra that cloaked them? got six paths chakra? What are these Hasirama feats that you're talking about that beats otsutski threats?or even Juubi? Did he bring peace among shinobis across all villages?
Im so happy to see how the quality of these videos have improved so much.
For sure
Tha powa duo
Dosu vs Shikamaru chunin exams
Shikamaru
Dosu wins
Dosu probably wins
Dosu claps
Jirobo 💀
OK, regarding how much stronger Naruto and Sasuke are during the Momoshiki fight, versus their fight versus Kaguya: something everyone seems to forget is that Naruto and Sasuke were not capable of actually killing Kaguya, because her chakra and powerful are so far beyond their own. They were only able to SEAL her using a special jutsu designed for that very purpose. And they were SCARED during this fight, it seemed like she was so far beyond any version of Madara that she was nearly untouchable to them, and they had to apply as many hacks/tactics as possible to get any kind of advantage because her raw power was so immense. Then when they fight Fusion Momoshiki, who is at LEAST relative to Kaguya in terms of raw power, in ADDITION to actually being a skilled/competent fighter, they were so confident that they let Boruto into the fight to teach him about hard work or whatever. And ultimately destroyed him even after Naruto was nerfed by having half his chakra sucked out.
it you kill an otsutsuki they will just put a karma mark on you to to stop them from doing that you have to seal them and its pretty difficult to kill an otsutsuki because of that but your right they wernt strong enough to defeat her but naruto also fought for like 3 days and was getting tired so was sasuke who was fighting for like 1-2 days if they were not and fought her with full stamina who knows what would have happened
It’s not because her chakra and power were far above Naruto and Sasuke that they couldn’t kill her, she is literally immortal. No one could kill her.
@@animeneet1604 No you can kill her she's not immortal. They just didn't have the power required. They killed Ishiki and he's stronger than her.
@@adainjarrio no baryon mode punched him to old age and on top of that he only had 3 days to live because jigen was an imperfect vessel
Momoshiki is stronger then kaguya btw also kaguya is dead lmao
Sasuke against villain: I can see!
Sasuke vs Borushiki: I can't see anymore, they dug me on one side
Opposite of team trees , it’s removing stuff in the water
trash, that is.
team seas lol
Madara used Susano'o BLIND and inside the biggest sand coffin in history, I'm sure he can go perfect with one MS now that his base is substancially stronger than that Madara was. Naruto got the biggest nerf, but until we get confirmation If he still has 6 paths powers (not sure if they were tied to Kurama, I personally think that is not the case) we cannot say for sure how they can be scaled to each other.
Yes and in sasuke vs naruto in shippuden he used six paths while the tailed beasts were in sasuke's planetary jutsu
6paths shouldn't be tied to kurama since he used it in base against madara
@@balloonb0y677 all that would have done is just amp his physical stats and sensory. wouldnt really allow him to being a susanoo while blind if he couldnt do it befor
@@balloonb0y677 he can . madara did it and itachi did it while blind
The thing is even if he does, how does that help him beat a perfect susanoo unless he get a giant avatar without Kurama like ashrua
I love how sasuke went from “I have the strongest eyes in existence!” To “shit my chakras gone”.
My boy Seth is crazy. He put out 2 videos in one week
I thought i was dreaming usally He does 1 Video in 1-1,5 Months
@@vistaxx that’s a fact
this is a bad video tho , recycled content to farm youtube views . can xx beat the hokage , can madara beat the akatsuki , can 6path naruto beat tenten ect the answer is yes
Who would’ve thought an anime channel would get a dope sponsor.
Nice going Seth.👍🏾
No
Not a sponsor, he is just supporting the charity for free, at least I don't think he was reached out to
Regardless, it’s a great place for funds to be going
@@fattmusiek5452 100% tru dat
The reason is because mrbeast is a huge naruto fan so he likes seth and swag
The novels say post war arc sasuke can take on kaguya level threats,and he's way stronger in boruto,so...
But “he’s always out of chakra!” He’s nerfed!”. Sasuke is always seen using the full EMS with his full Rinnegan (6 tomoe) which people seem to have forgotten DRAINS CHAKRA OVER TIME. It’s canonically proven that the sharingan and the rinnegan drain lots of chakra over time, plus the abilities sasuke uses are massively chakra focused.
Sasuke mentioned that using rinnegan portals costs a lot of chakra (which he uses often because he travels dimensions all the time, he also used it before every otsutsuki fight to portal there).
Sasuke uses susanoo, chidori, rinnegan swap teleportation, planetary devastation, transformation jutsu, Amaterasu etc.
Most of sasuke’s jutsu is ninjutsu based, which is obsolete against karma or Scientific ninja tools.
Sasuke may run out of chakra more often than not for Plot reasons, but it’s not unreasonable for him to run out of chakra, he doesn’t have uzumaki levels of chakra reserves but he has a lot.
@@BryMakesArt cuz people are sheeps and run with what people are saying for example “he’s nerfed @
which sasuke novel are you talking about?
if its retsuden that takes place in the boruto era
@@davisacademy1088 The Sasuke Shinden novel im pretty sure. Its the one that got adapted at the end of Shippuden
@@dani-eg6lo oh my bad i thought they were talking about retsuden
thanks
The real nerf of Sasuke to me was not only losing the curse mark but also Orchimaru's absorbed power. He lost power that's supposed to equal out to 1-5 tails Naruto in terms of power increase and was still relative to Naruto
I believe if he still had it, he would've did a lot more damage at the Kage Summit, be on par with Killer Bee in base, have a curse mark sasunoo on his own. Of he already became ridiculous ems and a 10x increase which I believe the curse mark is, he'd be broken. Maybe his only fall back will be the amount of chakra that cost to maintain but I'm sure Sasuke is smart enough optimize all of it I'm case of longer fights
The perfect ad at the perfect time.
"Some people think Madara was actually stronger, but due to harshiramas BITCOIN!"
Lmao
Borushiki blitzing Sasuke with BOTH HIS EYES is just plot convenience. The writers wanted to nerf him like naruto
Off guard makes a big difference in this verse. Look at kaguya vs ishiki
Borushiki erased his chakra bro
Isshiki beat the pulp out of Sasuke before that.
Do you still think that he will enough speed and strength after getting molly woop in previous battle.
No it's just like sakura catching kaguya offgaurd
It is plot convenience but it makes sense. Off guard Sasuke being nearly out of chakra, having his Sharingan turned off, barely being able to fight gets his eye stabbed by an Otsutsuki whose chakra can't be sensed.
Now that the smash ultimate cast is finished. Make a tier list based of their canon strength.
I already know the top 3 but the rest I wanna see.
Me
bayonetta solos
Sonic cleans house with a smile on his face.
Kirby is the reincarnation of God. Literally
That would be sickkk
I honestly think all Kage with nerfed Naruto would beat nerfed Sasuke. 1st still has the Wood Golem and 1000 hand sage mode jutsu. I think Sasuke would get worn out and lose after being unable to utilize Susano because his Chakra will run out.
You gotta understand the power cliff. Just imagine what Juubito did to Hashirama Hiruzen and Minato ect, but like several times worse. He'd literally just blitz and one tap them with no effort.
But can't saduke steal chavkra? Having people on the other team with a lot of chavkra like hadhirama and naruto just means he'll never run out
@@meunomenaoethiago284 Yeah , just like how he took that last bit of 9 tails chakra from Naruto at the end of shippuden
Oh wait , nerfed sasuke doesn't have rinnegan , so he can't steal chakra
@@dungeon-wn4gw yeah , and then in the end , there's one , the only one Naruto against him
WITH nerfed Naruto? I thing that Naruto will be Sasuke with ease by himself!
Swag: *mentions soul dragon*
Sasuke in boruto: "oh yeah this thing comes with more than just teleport"
Sasuke in part 1 and shippuden : “Naruto can get these hands!”
Sasuke in Boruto : “Naruto can get this hand!”
Pause
Well i mean a lot of shippuden and p1 naruto was stronger
It's still kinda funny that they imply Hiruzen > Hashirama, as if Hiruzen could do shit against a majestic attire susanoo or do something like seal the movements of the ten tails
Reaper death seal
@@commanderjor4043 he couldn’t even seal orochimaru, how would he seal hashirama or the juubi
@@RubenOwn old hiruzen was nerfed bc he was old bruh lol
@@kezwane9555 when the nine tails attacked the village when hiruzen was young he was shitting bricks hoping minato comes to save the day
@@Nnothingg- you looked at that man and said “yea this looks like a young man” bro he was retired at that point already 😂😂😂 he retired to let Minato become the new Hokage bc he was already old
EMS is just removing the stamina issue blindness. MS is a big jump that gives the powerup and ems makes it a permanent powerup without losing your eyes. It was never stated EMS by default is more powerful than MS potency wise. Sage mode is similar powerup to MS but I think it's a case-by-case basis as the more chakra you have the better the sage mode. For example Naruto was considered more powerful as a sage compared to Sasuke's MS by the Tobi and Olivera dude(lol)
EMS does upgrade your Susanoo into a Perfect Susanoo, so there is a power up there as well.
@@raducora7159 yea used to think this too. But i think the emotional powerup but talking your brothers is the actual powerup not so much just talking the eyes itself.
To be fair i always felt it was up for debate because every time the uchiha get powerups it also comes with emo powerup too so it hard to say 100% it was due to taking the eyes from ur bro alone.
Or maybe this just semantic and the emotion from taking ur brothers eyes and taking the eye is one and the same.
@@psukkar Well, the emotion trauma of taking a family member's eyes (doesn't have to be necessarely a sibling, could be parent or child) might as well be the cause of the power up. But bottom line is, an Uchiha does get a stronger Susanoo after going from Ms to EMS.
@@raducora7159 i dont think that EMS makes the perfect susanoo, if you see Sasuke first using it, it evolves to the armored bow and arrow version while fighting Danzo and then it evolves to the one with shield version that itachi had... and for example, Indra never had EMS because he was the only Uchiha at that time but because hes eyes didnt lose their light, he attained the perfect susanoo, so i guess Sasuke would have had perfect Susanoo with his MS if his eyes would have lasted a while more and if he could have taken the strain
@@NotMyAccount It's hard to consider Indra here, since he was such a close descendant of a pure Otsutsuki. He and Ashura were the first fork of Six Paths powers.
What you say might as well be true, though, and the Susanoo might evolve that much even for a normal MS user if given enough time. But then again, a normal MS user goes blind before his Sosanoo evolves that much, so the EMS can still be seen at least as the necessary key to a power-up, if not a straight-out one.
4:12 Dms Madara is not stronger than hashirama, they are even. Regen is part of hasiramas kit, he’s able to get nicked like that because of it. Hell thats one of the things that makes him comparable to madara. You just straight up took something out of hashiramas arsenal.
That's fair, that would be like saying Hashirama is stronger but Madara has Sharingan instead of just comparing the whole kit
Not to mention, the panels they show have no blood, just rain pouring on his face and some minor abrasions...
By regen logic Tsunades stronger then Edo Madara because would have dead when she punched him without regen. Also Hashirama was stronger then valley of the end Madara. Hashirama had to beat him and Kurama lol.
Now that I think about it, the Fact the Kage fought momoshiki and kenshiki and didn’t instantly dying is low key kinda crazy
Yeah everyone is smhw overpowered in boruto
Its even more impressive that some had to do it while restrained since some of them can't use Ninjutsu against them. Darui was fighting base Momoshiki with just his swordsmenship skills alone. Granted this wasn't an issue for Kinshiki.
These gen of Kage are pretty beast (except for Chojuro).
Yea people don’t realize that the new kages fighting momo and Kim puts them on a whole new pedestal from the rest of the cast. Or they try to deny it and be biased against them
I think 4th Ninja war Darui and Sharingan Kakashi are in the same level. The way Darui analysed the battle and fought was a lot like Kakashi. However, I don't think these discussions mean anything anymore if the approach is now to keep character powers ambiguous. So until the writers start making the character powers clear again, these discussions mean nothing.
18:25 To be fair, Minato couldn’t imagine sealing the whole nine tails into one newborn baby. It had already been sealed inside of one body for years, and that body was his wife’s. It’d be kind of stupid of him to immediately forget that and think “well shit, I sure wish I could seal this whole beast into one host…!!”
whe are talking if he can seal him like is he stong enought?
@@thomaschoquet2198 he could probably seal a arm and it's gg hahaahh
Was partially expecting this to just be 30 minutes of "yes."
All his vids in a nutshell tbh
this was 27 minutes of yes
27 minutes of not realizing hashirama solos low diff
@@ninoroxsox bait
Naruto still has the tailed beasts in him, so he can use boil release: unrivalled strength. That was able to overpower kaguya's vacuum fists which destroyed a perfect six path susanoo. Idk, just my POV
Not anymore, he doesn't have access to any tailed beast
@@yahwehkno he used the 4 tails lava rasenshuriken against delta. And when kurama died, the rest of them met up inside naruto, this is only possible through their chakra.
@@kenyonhay9577 not really anime literally went out of their way to see its just his normal chakra in his body
I don't think so
@@nickkerr6068 tried to tell him
Seth would've been to 1mil if he did more gorilla videos because all the PETA members would love that
Dude if Baryon Mode Naruto fought the best Sauske ever, Sauske would get his shiiiiiii run
Baryon mode is the strongest thing shown yes. But if the person can out last the time limit naruto is fked. Thing is that's very unlikely. Also his attacks say your chakra and life force so yh.
@@inchyokk good point, but I don't think Sauske could survive until the time limit hits👀
@@inchyokk Sasuke couldn’t even track Naruto’s movements lol
Sasuke will use his rinnegan and move to a different dimension until naruto's time runs out
I mean yeah, Baryon Mode is kinda like a cheat code to just say Naruto could defeat anyone in the series. With Baryon Mode, he can, but you gotta consider whether he would even resort to using it, knowing it kills Kurama. The fact that Kurama didn’t even suggest that he uses Baryon Mode in the war is an indication of how desperate they need to be to use it
Seth and Swag is like if Hashirama and Madara teamed up
aren't you forgetting in every fight between Naruto and Sasuke, is that Sasuke was ALWAYS going all out to maim/kill while Naruto was ALWAYS holding back, so he wouldnt kill his friend?
Naruto in there first fight didn't hold back what so ever. He literally screams I'll break every bones in your body and also if u want to play that argument after awhile Sasuke was also holding sense he didn't want to be like Itachi.
Yea Naruto always holds back when fighting Sasuke. That last fight Sasuke never really had a chance to be honest .
@@ChristianSedaPlays their first Naruto was literally never stated to be holding back. In fact, The guy got amp with Kyuubi chakra and later got 1 tail and went feral.
@@Unknownuser2. 😂 “didn’t hold back” but forgot that he had GAMABUNTER
@@ChristianSedaPlays he did wtf you saying
Bro if Naruto can, Sasuke can!
They’re both god tier.
(Still liked and subbed)
Naruto doesn’t have to fight himself, lol.
He beats all with the exception or hashi or naruto they’re literally perfect counters to him
Facts
Sasuke would clap hashirama
@@214skrilla6 🤡
@@214skrilla6 rinnegan sasuke with sage of six paths yes but no sage of sixpaths chakra no
@@ninoroxsox no you’re the clown 🤡. If we’re talking about nerfed sasuke without the rinnesharingan and just ems then MAYBE he’s weaker than hashirama and definitely weaker than naruto. Any other version of sasuke (past him getting six paths) would clap hashirama. Hashirama took one look at baby mode juubito and flat out said he’s weaker than him….. and he’s right. Naruto and sasuke fought juubito WITHOUT SIXPATHS
The Kaguya being scared thing maybe a bit overrated as the otsutsuki have shown to be concerned in any conflict area when they can be damaged at all. Especially when you look at how shinobi react to fear. Also Hashirama should play a stronger role at least against nerfed Sasuke he did face Madara's susanoo as well as the full nine tails with armor by himself. If it's a vs battle Sasuke has to actually take a proactive role he can't just keep flying. It could also be mentioned that the revived Madara that is over six paths Obito was said to be regaining his former strength and even though Hashirama said that six paths Obito was stronger than him he still had clones out, was facing Madara, and was nerfed as an edo although close to full power.
The kaguya being scared thing is to show that Momoshiki should be at bare minimum equal/ a threat to kaguya cause its not like she was scared of naruto or sasuke so it's not like she was just scared cause of conflict
@@Jorozco3708 but kaguya isn't scared of momoshiki that has been proven false as she's scared of the whole Otsutsuki clan because she literally betrayed them
@@Jorozco3708 she was of those seals and if you take a look at when she or any otsutsuki gets damaged vs before they get damaged they are much more proactive afterwards than before.
@@maadtee6281 no when it said she feared the clan she imagined kinshiki,momoshiki and urashiki. But they were weaker forms of those 3 meaning weaker forms of those 3 slam kaguya
@@badvibes2259 That was from anime filler though wasn’t it? It was just a representation of other Otsutsuki. I always took Kaguya fearing retribution for her betrayal to be a clan thing too. And remember Sasuke makes the statement that something stronger than Kaguya is coming but stresses that it’s just a hypothesis.
This is something i actually don't understand, it was stated in the shippuden manga that Sasuke's left eye is the one that holds the power of Amaterasu, which is his rinnegan eye, and his right eye allows him to use shape manipulation on the black flames, so how is Sasuke still able to use Amaterasu?
Retcon my dear
@@ZeroFlameX That's a pretty big thing to retcon.
@@Draxeid welcome to boruto. Greatest anime of all time
it does seem to have been retconed. We know the characters and understand the series better than the writters do and thats sad.
If that's true, that's a HUGE retcon
Toneri v Madara would be a solid video
Ya
Jubidara still win
The big problem most people are ignoring here is 8 gates guy. He couldn't kill 1 eye madara before tree, and I am pretty sure as long as he's not Genjutsu stopped Guy will kill the first 6 kages with 8 gates open and then die himself.
Idk why I watch these. They are well made and interesting but I’ve never even seen an episode of Naruto. And hearing all the names and titles and buffs, I’m just so lost. But it’s still a good watch and the animation in Naruto is great and I love seeing the fights and looking them up later
U should definitely giv the series a shot. It’s considered to be one of the best animes out there 👍🏾
Don't watch it, naruto and shippuden without filler are good but Boruto comes along and takes a fat dump on that. If you are gonna watch it, don't watch Boruto, I wish I hadn't ruined the series for myself by watching some of that dogshit.
I don't recommend it. It has a really good beginning, but it devolves into a DBZ-style exploding mountains type of show. The show focuses only on Naruto and Sasuke the way DBZ only focuses on Goku and Vegeta.
@@iRazenrak Totally agree, it would have been MUCH better if it stayed that gritty like the first show was. The dark, gritty story where the anbu black ops are the most powerful and the villages are constantly at war and spying on each other. But the Naruto character fundamentally doesn't belong in a world like that, he would be maimed and killed if it stayed that way so they had to devolve it into dbz.
I learned most of the character names from these lol, stopped watching the show not even halfway through shippuden and know nothing about the alien ppl
Naruto solos again with some difficulty
Narutos sage mode frog slap does a lot of damage, the higher defense you have
Narutos fought Kurama in base as well, so being the small vs large one in the fight isnt much new for him
The Mario Oof over Sasuke getting stabbed in the eye kills me 😂
It's literally just a battle of power cliffs
Moreover, I'd love to see them fight a serious Hashirama just he was different in terms of how much held back against Madara. Even if it's just base I'd love to see them go all out.
Naruto claps hashirama
I doubt Hashirama held back, he was getting beaten pretty bad too
@@kingsiretheog Hashi held back vs Madara his entire life. Idk how y'all don't get this. He was Asura's reincarnation.... Asura pledged to end the feud and cleanse his brother's heart of hatred. Hashi, himself, was always stronger than Madara (who's admitted this since childhood), yet he ALWAYS tried to stop the fighting and extend peace to Madara.
When you have someone like Madara, with EMS and Kurama, fighting vs Hashi who has ALWAYS tried to maintain peace, it should be obvious Hashi was trying to deflect/outlast Madara until the VERY last second when it became obvious he HAD to kill Madara for the sake of the village.
It's like Naruto x Sasuke's final battle. Sasuke was coming full force at Naruto trying to kill him, while Naruto held back the entire fight, never trying to kill him and instead just trying to outlast him. Naruto had multiple chances to kill Sasuke, but didn't, which in turn led to those instances Sasuke had a CHANCE to win, but couldn't. Clear gap between Naruto x Sasuke just like it was a clear gap between Hashi and Madara when they were alive.
@@Saxandfifths he nearly died against madara
@@dirge44 so you can't read or you just don't comprehend very well? Hashi and Madara fought for over a day, so Hashi nearly died from exhaustion more than anything else. Hashi was not trying to kill Madara from the onset of the match, he was trying to simply stop Madara's attempt to kill him and defend his against Madara and Kurama's attack.
Naruto nearly died from fighting Sasuke, NOT because Sasuke was that much of a threat to him, but because Naruto literally spent the whole fight simply canceling out Sasuke's attacks, trying to outlast him (sound familiar?) instead of actually trying to attack Sasuke..... So no shit Hashi almost died, but that doesn't change anything I've said or the face that Hashi was just in a whole other league than Madara.
Thank you Seth, very cool!
It’s always a good day when my boy Seth uploads a video
I liked mei and the tsuchikage because they kinda showed that kekkai genkai could be useful after sharingan and wood style became well known and the focus of the series. And the 100 healings seal also was a cool showcase of how a seal could be used.
“Minato is just not as fast as sasuke”
Except when minato uses flying raijin. Remember flying raijin is not always turned on but lighting cloak is. BTW(Sasuke lightning cloak>raikage lightning cloak)
He is
He’s not though. If we’re talking speed Sasuke surpassed him long ago.
minato couldn't even match madara
If minato wasn't at six paths Madara level in speed, then he's not on sasukes level in speed
Hashirama was in the same position as naruto. Fighting someone he doesn't want to kill that really wants to kill him. Both Hashirama and naruto were holding back while the 2 Uchias used everything they had.
Nah. Hashirama was absolutely ready to kill him thats what he ended up doing. Do not forget that they often fought each other with the reason to kill each other during the wars.
He didn’t want to kill Madara even in the wars. Why do you think he spared Madara’s life last time? Dude was about to kill himself at Madara’s request.
@@atheegan4305 lol no
@@josephrogers3666 It was only at the beginning. Naruto is more kind than Hashirama, we have seen it several times throughout the story. Naruto always said that he would try to make Sasuke come back, Hashirama never said stuff like that. Also Hashirama grew up during the warring states where he had become more cold than Naruto, so he must have always known that someday he had to kill him. Hashirama left Madara alive because Madara wanted to kill himself because he lost and that made him realize that he still is a good guy and that would end all the wars when the Uchiha leader would work together. You have not watched the show and stop comparing Naruto with Hashirama just because they are Reincarnations. If Madara had beaten Hashirama in the same scenario he would let him survive too, because Madara has similar respect for Hashirama.
Sasuke without his Rinnegan is the same dude but without teleportation
Nah rinnegan was an amp so sasuke did lose some speed and strength but he should still be stronger
@RR Organization no it is an amp. Sasuke without his rinnegan got negged by sage madara, then with it he was able to fight 10 tails madara
@@n3onnova564 the Rinnegan gives you an amp when you awaken the eye for the first, Sasuke trained for 16 years after that
@RR Organization i agree, i just dont think sasuke stats are still the same. Cuz if thats the case he basically wasn’t nerfed like outside of rinnegan abilities sasuke was already busted, so its basically like saying hes still as strong as the otsutski but with less hax. I dont agree with this since it’s obvious that naruto and sasuke should still be relative but if sasuke didn’t lose stats he completely stomps naruto now
@RR Organization what is he gonna do with ems and one arm lol?
Naruto and Sasuke in The Last gotta be the dopest versions of their characters
I can already tell this is gonna be great.
The title should just be Sasuke vs Naruto cause yeah......nerf or not the other Kage stand 0% against either Naruto or Sasuke 😅
Exactly!
Idk minato with krama cloack is pretty strong
@@plantgang8738 He has one-half of the nine tails. Hashirama fodderized Madara + the full Nine Tails. And Minato got counter blitzed by one-eye Juubi Madara. He's irrelevant to any current scaling.
@@andrewsigler7437 Hashirama got wreck by Madara, but regen the whole fight.
@@plantgang8738 sasuke's pins minato down wit rinnegan rods n den proceeds to absorbs all of kurama's chakra , hes slappin minato up
I don’t know if you’ve done it already but please do a Perfect Susano’O Kakashi vs Hashirama VSs. I’ve seen WAAAAAAY too many people say that Hashirama beats Perfect Susano’O Kakashi and I personally do not know what kind drugs they’re on.
Boroshiki actually speed blitzes sasuke. Sasuke realized he was there and was starting to turn around but only turned into the kunai.
"Madara was stronger than Hashirama but Hashirama could heal himself."
Okay so by that logic I can say "Madara is trash compared to Hashirama because he had to control 9 tails to come close to beating Hashirama"
They always down play Hashirama for some reason. It's like they don't like the character
Well no hashirama was jus able to counter the nine tails by absorbing its chakra, immobilizing it and he had his bhudda statue
@@tjhicks3600 It's less that they like to downplay Hashirama and more like Swag likes to wank off the Uchiha and Seth sorta goes back and forth placating Swags raging Uchiha fanboyism. When Seths by himself, most of the time, he's respects Hashirama power. Repeatedly Seth has recognized Hashirama as the strongest non-6 paths character outside of 8 gates guy in his ranking the most powerful people in verse video. "The first hokage is stronger than you think" is yet another example of Seth recognizing Hashirama unquestionable superiority to Madara. It's only when Swag comes on the channel when he's like "well _maybe_ there kind of relative" or "you could argue that Madara is _actually_ stronger". Dafuq?
@@tripkings547 swag comes off as an uchiha hater to me, he just loves madara
@@MrCcsboy Lol if Swag could change the name of the series to "Uchiha" he would. The only reason he isn't spewing forth non-stop uchiha content(for the naruto series) is because his viewers call out his blatant Uchiha fanboyism, so he feels the need to prove to his viewers and likely himself that he isn't a Uchiha fanboy. He's wanks all the Uchiha, it's not just Madara, although Madara has a special place in his heart. Repeatedly he's wanked off Sasuke using Naruto's feats, as if they are equal. Keep in mind he and Seth will say the Sannin arent equal even though that is stated, because "common sense and scaling" has "shown" otherwise, but then take statements like Sasuke equals Naruto as gospel. Same with Jiraiya and Itachi, he'll disregard that Itachi conceded himself weaker than Jiraiya to wank Itachi, but fail to do so with Naruto and Sasuke. This whole video is trying to upscale Sasuke by downplaying Hashirama to frame it as if Madara actually stood a chance against him. It's 2 Uchiha wanks for the price of one.
Lol they said borushiki is stronger than momoshiki. Its the other way around boruto charka doesnt even compare. Sasuke didnt sense momoshiki cause the otsuki have a way of concealing their presence. In recent chapter boruto is getting an upgrade because of momoshiki by way of the karma. The clan has a absurd amount of charka but this is also their weakness in arrogance
technically even if it’s just by a hair he should be stronger code explained karma and said all their mellenia of battle experience just gets overlaid onto whoever has the karma so he’d be gaining whatever boruto has but yea your kinda right cuz i’m sure momo can do anything boruto can do and more but he still adds borutos stregnth to his even if it’s just a lil.
and yea they can conceal their chakra A LOT of people don’t understand this and downplay sharingon and rinnesharingon cuz of it
Naruto had an amazing power up just before his “death” nerf. Sasuke how ever will never have that glorious death final attack.
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24:49 there's one problem about that because base kawaki was reacting and actually somewhat fight boroshiki and sasuke kinda cought him off guard(maybe he didn't want to fight them 1v2) whale that Same kawaki with karma was weaker than base naruto 🤷♂️
I hate when delusionals say Kaguya was afraid of Momoshiki, she was afraid of the clan. Im sure Momoshiki would shit his pants if kaguya and kinshiki were coming to get him. She claps Momoshiki
No she was afraid of him momoshiki is stated above kaguya and kinshiki in base. It took a stronger naruto and sasuke to beat him so no momoshiki claps
@@Vader255 By who and what chapter? When?
Lmao u have no Idea how much I'm laughing at u while being so triggered by this dum comment 😂, I agree that kaguya was scared by the clan but she was def scared of momoshiki aswell, plus it's quite obvious momoshiki slaps kaguya
Momoshiki slaps kaguya my boi
Nope. To say she loses to momoshiki is to go against scaling
Otsutsukis can erase their chakra signature( as said in the manga) that's what allowed borushiki to get the drop on sasuke.
Yeah and they did not know borushiki would come out. Momoshiki kinda implied he would get pummeled by sasuke when sasuke blasts his chidori in borushiki mode so.
Also the Karma activates the Otsutsuki's years of fighting experience and power. So it's basically Base Momoshiki at 80% power, blitzing an off guard, fatigued Sasuke who just fought the strongest character in the series (excluding Baryon Naruto). People may not like it, but it makes sense.
I 100% agree that kakashi isn't a threat to Boruto era Sasuke or Naruto but I'm very glad Seth and Swag acknowledged that he's still a very powerful chracter and kage his growth post War Arc is insane.
Sasuke ain’t beating Six Paths Sage Mode Naruto easily. Nor do I think he could if the fight went on for long at all. Naruto would out last him handily. Lava style rasenshuriken was enough to cut the god tree down and damage juubi Madara, it would demolish susanoo.
Why u acting like sasuke susanno ain't strong enough to take damage from naruto😐
Dude that Madara was way weaker than the Sasuke that fought against God tree absorbed Madara. His Perfect Susanoo is strong enough to fight somewhat against Kaguya and stalemate Naruto at final valley.
dude, sasuke's susanoo is obviously stronger, not to mention that version of madara got a few amps after getting hit wuth that
@@Primeking2345 is Sasuke susanoo stronger than the God Tree in durability? If anything it would be equal to it. And lava style rasenshuriken cut it down with ease. We’ve only seen Sasuke’s susanoo fight six paths Sage mode Naruto with the help of chakra from the 8 other tailed beasts
Naruto doesn't have six paths sage mode or the other tail beasts powers now that Kurama is dead
including naruto? absolutely not. not including goatruto? absolutely yes
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@@xaze4301 himawari solos aot 😹😹
Goatruto lmao
madara negs
@@gtgclans madara isn’t a hokage
18th video of asking Seth to power scale Mythology. WHO ELSE WANTS TO SEE THIS?!
No one
Nobody 1
heck yeah the perfect follow up to one of the finest videos on this channel
Doesn’t change the outcome but Minato can seal sasuke. Kurama has massively more chakra than sasuke and minato sealed both halves.
Feel like the round 3 wouldn't be that straight forward. Since the whole theme has been "Naruto and Sasuke are equals", then Naruto losing Kurama wouldn't put him thatttt much lower than Sasuke after losing the rinneagan. I would assume that Naruto's sage mode has also gotten stronger plus he knows more jutsus now too. I gotta believe that Naruto still has some sort of abilities that make him rival Sasuke.
Exactly, like if we ever see them fight again i bet naruto will use more variety of jutsu, and maybe we’ll see som toad summons or something like that, id still give the edge to sasuke for now tho
Also since i think naruto still has the other tailed best power he should be able to use boil release which is another huge amp
@@n3onnova564 wasn't kurama the one who connected the other beasts
@@minalkulsange9507 yes i think so. But I also think Sage mode is being slept on. When naruto used it vs pain he had known it for barely any time. Imagine him training and evolving his sage mode
Without kurama Sasuke can easily genjutsu or amaterasu naruto & naruto frogs is an easy target for this jutsu
Gonna be real. I don't take any Sasuke debate with you seriously after your "Sasuke VS Rock Lee - Who Would Have Won?" video. Keep up the good content tho.
Did your feelings get hurt?
@@vietcongwarlord6931 No. I just appreciate debates with intelligence and not bias dick sucking. Check out the comments for the vid. Its like a Christmas Tree. Lit up with comments calling out the clear bias.
@@TophDaGreat bro if they hurt yo feelings just say that
@@trodu1940 why would I have hurt feelings about a bias debate about fictional characters from an anime. Are you salty they got called out on it or what bruh
Hashirama took on the perfect susanoo and the Nine-Tails at the same time
With likeca 100' tall wooden God statue with at least 100 punching arm branches the size of telephone poles.....
Considering how Sasuke could have potentially gone either way vs Naruto, the most busted character to ever spawn in his own Universe, and no one else even compares to God-Tier Naruto, I'd say this isn't even a question, PRIME Hashirama or not, it's a better premise to ask if Sasuke could take them all on at the same time AND all the nerf retcons at the same time. Now THAT'S a fight!
Either way? No.
First off, Sasuke had just Sealed Away and Absorbed ALL of the Chakra from Tailed Beasts which included Half of Kurama
Vs
Naruto with just half of Kurama and a less than a "Tail Worth of Chakra" from each of the Bijuu at his disposal.
Sasuke was fighting with Killing Intent while Naruto never once fought to kill Sasuke.
In no way in 1 on 1 at that time, meaning without Tailed Beasts, could Sasuke come close to defeating that version of Naruto. It would be a medium difficulty sweep for Naruto.
@@maylabrown4584 if they let sasuke use the full extent of his rinnegan in that fight it would have or at least shouldve gone in sasukes favour. The writing made them comparable. Sasuke took bijou chakra. Naruto had kurama assist him in the nature energy. It was obvious sasuke wanted to kill him but he also wanted to kill him at his best in an all out battle. Plot gives and takes accordingly and its inconsistent as shit.
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Sasuke wasn't trained in using all of the Rinnegan abilities yet, hell not even Obito or Madara was, only Nagato got the time to train with the Rinnegan until he mastered it.
Sasuke taking all the Tailed Beasts and absorbing their Chakra is a massive amp and then taking away half of Kurama from Naruto yet again.
Only in that situation were they comparable, without plot getting in way, Naruto soundly takes the fight within a couple of minutes especially if he's going for the kill.
Sasuke didn't want to kill Naruto at his best since he took away the other half of Kurama and sealed away the Tailed Beasts not allowing Naruto access more of their Chakra through the Sage of Six Paths Link.
Sasuke wanted Naruto dead and buried so he could kill all of the Kage and everyone who got in his way of becoming the next Hokage (which technically he already was eligible for due to being trained by Kakashi and Orochimaru)
@@maylabrown4584 Bruh I see this excuse everywhere just because he didn’t want to kill sasuke doesn’t mean that he wasn’t going all out it’s litteraly the same thing with obito, naruto didn’t want to kill obito because of his past and stuff but that doesn’t mean that he could hold back on him since he was still evil and naruto didn’t hold back against obito despite not wanting to kill him because he was ten tails jinchurki trying to cast infinite tsukyomi. Sasuke could have killed naruto many of times and the battle would have ended with sasuke emerging as victor I will admit. So sasuke would have won but plot and other stuff/factors
@@DecimaarZ It's not an excuse, it's facts.
Naruto never once gave up on Sasuke and was constantly on the defensive during the battle, Sasuke was constantly going for the kill and wanted Naruto dead.
Obito and Sasuke aren't the same, Naruto wasn't holding back against Obito cause he didn't hold back against Pein, he's a nobody to him, and he only Talk No Jutused Obito cause there wasn't any other way for them to beat him at that point.
Naruto didn't want to continue the cycle that Hashirama and Madara continued, even if Sasuke wanted to outright kill him from the start without remorse.
Naruto would have won the easily without plot getting in the way, they literally had to give Sasuke ALL of the Tailed Beasts (which again, included HALF of Kurama) just for Sasuke to have a chance at killing Naruto.
As a person who's collected the Funko Pop Naruto line 100% since it started, it makes me super happy to see you using the Funko Pops as references lmaooo
I’m pretty sure Naruto still has Six Paths Sage Mode which was given to him by Hagoromo
Not anymore, he lost it when Hagoromo disapeared.
@@loweit4842 Didn’t Hagoromo disappear before Naruto fought Sasuke? Not to mention Six Paths Sage Mode is indicated by no coloring around the Eyes.
@@RedDeathAnims six paths for naruto is basically the same as madara and juubito so him being the 10 tails. The fact he doesn’t have kurama anymore means he shouldn’t have so6p. But i think he still has the other tailed beast so he still should have plenty of jutsu and also boil release which is a decent amp
@@n3onnova564 It’s up for debate whether or not Naruto still has Six Paths Sage mode, but a major indicator that he still does is that when Naruto first fought Isshiki in the Leaf village, we actually saw him go into Six Paths Sage mode, and then stack his Kurama cloak over the top. It’s the first time we’ve ever seen him go into both modes separately, because it usually just shows him going into both modes at the same time. I think there’s a good chance the animators did that on purpose to show that he doesn’t need Kurama to use Six Paths Sage mode, although we don’t know for sure until we next see him fight.
@@n3onnova564 That doesn’t automatically mean that. That just means there are multiple ways you can achieve Six Paths Sage Mode. Naruto wasn’t like Madara & Obito, so Hagoromo gifted Naruto Six Paths Sage Mode instead of making him earn it himself.
You forget that Hagoromo became a 10 Tails Jinchuriki himself, so that explains how he obtained that power. He had it even after splitting the 10 Tails into Tailed Beasts. He did the 10 Tails work for Naruto in a sense. He gave Naruto half which is Six Paths Sage Mode.
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Would be interesting to see an indepth video of where you guys think the scaling for Boruto works. Are Chunin and Jonin stronger now since the Kage clearly are? If so how strong would they be if they where in Shippuden era. How strong are the Boruto Kage? We know they as a group can throw hands with Kinshiki, and Gaara Chojuro did pretty decent against Urashiki. What level are they REALLY at. Out of Control Obito? In control? One eyed Madara?
Urashiki lost due to plot and powerscalling in nsruto and boruto never made sence If it did why 8snt nauto boruto kawaki sasuke a jonin and the only 2 strong jonin were kakashi and guy others were just useless fodder
the thing is Borushiki was scared of Sasuke without rinnegan and almost no chakra
Borushiki also couldn't use any jutsu to risk waking boruto up borushiki would have killed Sasuke if he could use jutsu and very easily
@@devindurham2927 At full power yes not just due to the loss of the Rinnegan but due to it being a drained Sasuke who just finished fighting
Its also worth noting sasuke's ability to use lightning cloak. Which allows his speed and maybe his strength to compare to KCM sage mode naruto, i'm surprised that no one mentioned this in the video.
When did sasuke ever show the ability to use the lightning cloak?
Sasuke has never used lightning cloak tf.
@@itwasntoptional2513 Have you not seen Sasuke envelop himself in lightning to augment his speed?
@@slayed9602 He's never used a lightning cloak though. They show lightning and naruto's yellow chakra for visual effect. We've never seen sasuke sit there with a cloak of lightning around him and it's also never been stated so it's just flat out head canon to say he has the ability to use the lightning cloak. We only see it in certain instances where they just want to make the fights look flashy so we can attribute it to visual effect until we see otherwise.
He used it against kinshiki and momoshiki in the anime
Such good arguments. Always the best quality videos!
Hashi held back vs Madara his entire life. Idk how y'all don't get this. He was Asura's reincarnation.... Asura pledged to end the feud and cleanse his brother's heart of hatred. This translated to Hashi wanting to find a way to unify his and Madara's clans to form peace and end war. Hashi, himself, was always stronger than Madara (who's admitted this since childhood), yet he ALWAYS tried to stop the fighting and extend peace to Madara throughout their lifetimes. While Madara was actively fighting out of vengeance and trying to kill Hashi, Hashi was fighting for his people and never killed Madara during his victories in battle.
When you have someone with bloodlust like Madara, with EMS and Kurama, fighting vs Hashi who has ALWAYS tried to maintain peace, it should be obvious Hashi was stronger than him, but just trying to deflect/outlast Madara until the VERY last second when it became obvious he HAD to kill Madara for the sake of the village.
It's like Naruto x Sasuke's final battle. Sasuke was coming full force at Naruto trying to kill him, while Naruto held back the entire fight, never trying to kill Sasuke and instead just trying to outlast him. Naruto had multiple chances to kill Sasuke, but didn't, which in turn led to those instances Sasuke had a chance to possibly win, but still couldn't. Clear gap between Naruto x Sasuke just like it was a clear gap between Hashi and Madara when they were alive.
damn that’s alot of words, too bad i’m not readin em
@@ioan2134 your inability to read or lack of intelligence for it had nothing to do with this comment.
I hate the hashirama downplay that happens so often in videos like these because Seth is on the record on multiple occasions claiming that there’s a chance hashirama grew in strength after he beat madara. I believe that he did get much stronger because of how close his fight against edo madara with rinnegan was. My point being that adult sasuke with just one EMS could honestly be beaten by Hashirama alone. Let alone two teleporters, the second best medical ninja of all time, and another two kage level fighters (kakashi, hiruzen) backing him up.
Adult Sasuke stomps Hashirama like 0 difficulty Hashirama is to slow & not strong enough to do anything(Weaker then Juubito)
@@SRVaris with no rinnegan I think it’s a softer stomp than most people would think. You really think that adult sasuke with no rinnegan just stomps double rinnegan madara? Because it’s implied that hashirama in his prime (after the madara fight in the final valley) is as strong or stronger than double rinnegan madara.
@@Gyatskibbidy Yes I do think Sasuke effortlessly kills double Rinnegan Madara I would even say he could beat Juubidara (though this would be a pretty difficult fight)
Sasuke still scales way higher then Hashirama, Base Naruto at 50% was able to fight Fused Momoshiki Sasuke is Much stronger then Base Naruto
And again Hashirama is weaker then Juubito.
@@SRVaris that’s reanimated hashirama my guy. I’m saying the stronger, alive hashirama that has feats as an edo (because we know edos are weaker than living counterparts) that can support that he is stronger than the double rinnegan madara who though he could take out Juubito with no issue. Edo hashirama is roughly equal to that madara as an edo. So I believe both of them alive are higher tier just barely greater than juubito and I believe that’s the tier adult sasuke with no rinnegan is, and momoshiki.
Alive is what’s stronger than juubito is what I’m saying
So basically sasuke vs 5 thousand narutos with similar strength to his own
…oh and the other kage as well
Genjutsu gg🤣
@@sinabashirinejad1701 he isnt catching naruto in a genjutsu. He stomps the 5 Kage, but I don't see him taking naruto. 500 sage narutos shoving rasenshurkins at the susano. The susano isn't taking that.
@@welshnightmare why isn't he catching naruto in a genjutsu?
@@welshnightmare why cant he catch naruto in a genjutsu. naruto isnt a genjutsu type at all, even with kurama. he couldn't break out any genjutsu without help or with the genjutsu user ending it themselves. Like literally sakura (a genjutsu type) saved him 3 times already from genjutsus, one being an otsukuki level like in the last movie. :)
@@saberfan naruto has more than enough experience not to look into his eyes for it. If it was as easy as that naruto would have lost at the valley of the end.
i couldn't get past the first 30 seconds pls these edits are killing me
What if Sasuke became the 8th Hokage, that would be kinda cool tho
Konohamaru: Cries in the corner of shame* "I am never going to be Hokage."
@@banditkeith6479 he can be the 9th