Thus far, with the way the Raptors and Knicks are both looking, it's looking like this trade is a big win-win deal. Knicks are doing way better with OG, while the Raps are doing way better with Quickley and RJ. Hopefully both teams can keep it up!
It’s also important to bring up hartensteins impact. His energy on both sides of the ball has been excellent in the past few weeks, a lot of time electrifying the rest of the team. When hartenstein plays good, it seems the whole team is playing good
Facts! Love Mitchell Robinson but having Hartenstein start allows us to be more of an offensive threat which the knicks need and he is also a great defender!
what surprises me the most? nothing, im a raps fan, i know OG. out of everyone, he deserves the brightess lights, glad he's in NY. Anyway IQ and RJ are killing it right now
When you see OG, Hart, and Grimes on the court together, you’re in for a stretch were scoring becomes damn near impossible. We’re keeping teams to 100.6 ppg since the trade. Chicago was leading by 4 at half on us and in the last 6 minutes of that game, they were stuck on 95 points until Coby White hit an inconsequential 3 when the game was out of reach. The Sixers got their ish pushed in. We gave Embiid fits and Maxey was only effective using his speed. We held them to 92 points. OG put Anthony Edwards AND KAT in jail when he was guarding them. Oh and Josh Hart in his last TWO GAMES is a +74. The man is fucking everywhere.
Not a Knicks fan but I'm being 100% serious when I say the NBA is just better when New York is a good team. I don't what it is, but them Knicks are like NBAs version of Dallas Cowboys and Yankees lol
If you want to talk about the biggest surprise on the knicks, you HAVE TO talk about Isaiah Hartenstein! Ever since Mitchell Robinson got injured (15 games), Hartenstein is averaging 8.4 PPG/10.3 RPG/2.5 APG with 1.5 Steals and 1.8 Blocks a game. During that span, He is the only player in the entire NBA to be top 10 in both Steals and Blocks. If you look at only the month of January (since the OG trade), he is even better averaging 10.5 PPG/13.5 RPG/2.8 APG with 2.3 Steals and 3.0 Blocks a game!!! His Blocks and Steals per game numbers in January are BOTH 2nd in the NBA (THIS IS CRAZY) with the only other player even in the top 10 of both being Tyrese Hailburton. His advanced stats for the whole season are also shockingly great as he is 2nd in the entire NBA in Offensive Rebound % and 1st in dEPM (Defensive Estimated Plus-Minus) one of the most well regarded defensive stats. He is playing like the most versatile center in the NBA and NO ONE outside of knicks fans talks about it. You GOTTA make a video about him.
IHart is a certified beast. I'd argue that he's playing better than Mitchell Robinson was as a starter. I think the Knicks have some tough decisions to make this offseason.
@@JS96919 Yeah you're right. Like RJ's 18-20/avg every season and constantly having a negative +/- every game 🤣. But sure if you want to talk about individual stats, OK. However, team ratings DO matter.
I loved this trade for NY when it happened (i knew losing IQ and RJ was sad, but would open the game up for everyone else). Now that it’s been 4 games they’re playing better than I thought
Divincinzo, Og and brunson plus hartenstein is a monster lineup,if only Randle was more of a solid superstar with less turning over the ball I would be confident on the playoffs with them
@@dreadxplayzs7849no matter how good Julius plays, people always looking at the negative. Check out his last 20 games. I can say he's had 2 bad games in that stretch.
As a Raps fan it’s funny because we been saying OG a top 5 DPOY level defender for years now.. glad he getting the recognition he deserves with the NY media
Real talk. At first I felt a certain way about trading offense for defense like this despite the defense being much needed. I just grew too attached to Quickley on this team but you can't argue with the results. This trade has proven to be more than valuable for the Knicks.
Loving the love OG is getting. We miss him in Toronto but so far so good for both teams. It seems they both hit walls with their personnel and needed to make a move to get things going. Knicks are 4-0 and Raps 3-1 and everyone not named Precious or Malachi (good riddance they’re gone) is thriving.
Nice to hear OG getting the recognition he deserves! Amazing that it took him moving to an American team for people to really take notice. NY got the best defender in the league - he can shut down any player, any position. Great player - even better human! So sad to see him leave - but so happy for him to be getting recognition … finally. ❤ you OG .. oh my!! 🇨🇦
OG completely unlocks Brunson and Randle to their limits since he doesn't require the ball in his hands the way RJ does. As a 3 and D specialist, he spreads the floor so well and puts opposing stars in lockdown. The chemistry and flow is so much smoother than it was with RJ in the lineup and it's showing with these blowout wins over their opponents. I'm excited with this new look Knicks.
It's why I said that Thibs should have started Dante and Hart with Brunson, Randle and Mitch. The bench would have been IQ, RJ, Grimes and iHart. But Thibs is too hard headed.
Delusional Raptors and Knicks fans still want to debate "who won the trade" or whether "we gave up too much". Stats don't lie my friends. Defense creates offense and OG is making this happen. You don't need to throw up 15-20 points to be effective. His fit with this Knicks team is everything we've needed because he's an unselfish player who's an efficient 3pt shooter and gets easy points by cutting to the basket.
I agree, his defense helps the team more, NYK already had scorers and its not like OG can't score, but now Randle doesn't have to focus on defense at all now (like he was before anyways 😂) and OGs decision making is far more solid than RJs by a long shot and RJ and Quickly's defense is borderline non existent.
@@purrpleciity1 Exactly. I've been saying this but Raptors fans continue to say we got fleeced. We both got the pieces we wanted and we're both thriving with our new pickups. Just end it at that. No one got fleeced whatsoever.
I think this trade made a ton of sense for both teams. I know people are down on RJ but he's still so young and I know people are making a fuss about the contract but it's truly not that bad tbh and once the new CBA kicks in its going to look that much better. IQ is going to get his chance to shine. Great trade for both teams imo.
Ive been watching OG and the raps for long enough to tell you that the trade has given him a TON of energy. Hes always been a lockdown defender, but I think this trade was a good move for his mental too.
Now DDV guards the second best player, and bam we are great. DDV creates offense when needed and is a deadly shooter. Og is a lock down defender and a deadly shooter. Ihart is a great passer, pretty good offensive piece and a great rebounder and underrated rim protector. Then randle is the bully down low and JB is the offensive maestro. This starting lineup is AMAZING. People who don't know basketball sleep on this team lol
If you watched RJ with the Knicks he was not good fit as a third option. Too many times he was out on the perimeter, with his hands out waiting to get the ball and if he got it, he would force a bad shot on many occasions. He played selfishly in his attempt to "get his" IMO. He's not a bad player but he has his limitations. OG gives them more balance and elite defense on the perimeter obviously which the Knicks desperately needed, stretches the floor, and plays well off the ball which is something Barrett has not learned yet. Giving up Quickley was tough, but this was a win-win trade for both teams
Great video, all these points are true. The spacing is much better, OG’s ability to impact the game without dominating the ball is huge. Him being an elite on-ball defender, with size, who can defend 1 through 4, is huge for this team. Also, the Knicks roster had a lot of redundancy. Randle, JB, RJ, and IQ (to an extent) need the ball in their hands to impact the game. RJ does what Julius does, except not as well. Quickley does what Brunson does, except not as well. The roster construction is vastly improved now.
Minor quibble, OG can and often has guarded one through five at an elite level, sometimes in back to back games. In that narrow criterion alone he could significantly improve many teams, which partly explains why so many teams have been trying to acquire his services, and why the Raptors had up until this point declined all offers. The Knicks had more need of said services than some teams, far more than the Raptors,who are loaded with long versatile defenders. Pascal Siakam and Scottie Barnes can and have guarded one through five at an elite level, and can and have also played one through five. OG was a blessing much appreciated, and will be missed, but the Raptors needed help in other areas... and got it with this trade.
@@dabaconpham7313 agreed. I genuinely think both teams won (even being an RJ critic). Toronto was in need of shot creation and got it. NYK needed a versatile defender, and got it.
Meanwhile the Raps just took a blowtorch to the Dubs on their own floor, with RJ sinking 37 on 13 for 20. Barnes only scored 6 points and we still waxed 'em. I thought it was pretty obvious from rip that this was a win/win trade for both teams, who've both gotten EXACTLY what they needed at their current stages of development. That said, I didn't expect both teams to improve as much as they have. Good to see tho...most Raps fans will always have love for OG, so I'm delighted to see him fitting in like a glove and getting a brighter light on his game. As for us, we still gotta figure this Siakam thing out...either gotta extend him or deal him. But having a team that's fun to watch again has been a victory in itself.
This is with Mitchell Robinson out who was putting up a historic season in terms of offensive rebounding prior to injury. He also looked like he was going to be All-Defense this year as well imo. Although, Hartenstein has been balling out of his mind in his stead.
@@probablyyourdad it's the defense but also the rebounding. He was putting up a Moses Malone type of offensive rebounding efficiency. I can't wait until he gets back. I just wonder what moves the FO is planning next. There was a report that Mitch was out for the season but idt there was ever an official statement. Not sure why they're being ambiguous about his status. I feel like the Knicks are still missing THE guy. Randle and Brunson are both very good though. They should both be all stars imo.
OG "was" the most underrated player in the league, I'm not really sure why or how, but now that all the spotlight is on him, the people can see him for the true talent that he is! I am a Raptors fan and I remember distinctively that every single time OG was out of the lineup with injury the raptors would badly struggle for wins. At the time you think ok he can't be that impactful, not when his numbers are not the greatest, but in reality the man brings so much more to the court that meets the eyes.
Who cares. U can have him. Inconsistent, not a good defender nd shooting leaves alot to be desired. Tell us all how it's going for u n 3months. Right now, enjoy thr honeymoon period. It'll soon come to a crashing hault
Americans are just discovering what Canadians have known for years. The repeated ignorance from so called analysts calling Raptors fans unrealistic for 'overvaluing' our players, and insults towards Ujiri for demanding too much in return for his players, just goes to show you how deep the anti-Foreign bias goes in the NBA. This trade is the best case scenario for both teams. Anunoby opens up the paint to allow your facilitators to work not just by spacing the floor, but by covering the otherside of the ball whenever misses or turnovers happen. Likewise, RJ and IQ add actual offensive facilitation to a team that has stagnated offensively every year since the Chip. I honestly think the Raptors have a chance to make the playoffs this year.
When all the couch-GMs were saying OG didn't move the needle, I thought they were crazy. The SAS take blew me away, OG was valued so high for a reason. He is elite defensively, absolutely elite. Game changing defensive wings are huge in this league and he is one of a very few that have this impact level.
When og comes in to play with that second unit of Mcbride grimes and hart the defense is spectacular. Hoping Robinson comes back healthy so we can see him with that unit
As a Knicks fan ofcourse I like this. I do think the 1 to 1 comparison of Quickley's perimeter offense to OG's is a little too bias in favor of the Knicks. Quickley is way more versatile on what he can do with the ball in his hands. Nonetheless I do think overall OG is a better fit than RJ (obviously) and he was more of a need for us than IQ.
Good trade for both ends. Happy RJ and IQ are doing well in Toronto and LOVE what OG has brought to my Knicks! Him, Hart, Hartenstein and Devo have been FIERCE lately. Love the hustle, love the grind and loving the ride from this trade
Raps fans already knew all of this, he should have been DPOY but was ignored because he was on the Raps. US media/fans are dumb AF. Also, he is an NBA champion as well, let's not forget to mention that (even tho he didn't play).
OG's addition is only one part of a 2 part story. Hartenstein, in Mitchell Robinson's injury absence, has been outstanding at the 5. His ability to pass extremely well from the high post and out, set textbook screens and picks, having good hands and timing when defending the rim ... damn. Having a .450+ 3PT shooter in the corner has boosted his worth as well on O, and the Knicks have something they mightn't have even seen without bad luck turning into good luck. We're on the way up, and a good rebounding PF in the second unit (not Dejounte Murray) is all we need to maintain the upward progress.
Stats are tools, and just like tools, they are only as good as the person using them. Some people think building the best team is just a math equation. Almost like you want to add up all your player NBA 2k ratings and have the highest number. Chemistry and finding the right pieces goes beyond stats.
Knicks were a decent defensive team with Robinson and plummeted after his injury… but OG insertion and defensive intelligence allows the other 4 players to shift their defensive prowess from a position of weakness now to a position of strength… meaning.. they now are able to operate at a position of strength on defense..and not having to get blitz on every play
Stephen A Smith also wasn't moved to favor the Raptors to win the NBA championship in 2019. OG was/is a menace on defense. He's the type of player you need to win a championship. HIs role isn't to score or fill up a stat line. He helps you win games.
Knicks need to move heaven and earth to get Bridges from the Nets. He would be the perfect fit. 2 big time defensive wings who can shoot the 3. We would be an instant contender. Fournier, plus 3 first round pick.
that wouldn't be enough to get him. They'd have to throw in Grimes & 4 unprotected 1sts at the minimum. Even then, Brooklyn may not be interested in trading him.
@@peteranzano267 Would also have to just not be the Knicks lmao. Mikal on Brooklyn is a lock for the forseeable future and the Nets trading with the Knicks might not happen in any future
As a witness to the Knicks championship teams, this trade could be the most important deal the Knicks have made since i968 when the Knicks acquired Dave DeBusschere. That was the final piece of the puzzle. I’m not saying championship this year but 47-35 and a trip to the semifinals is a very real possibility. 🏀
Loved watching OG when was in college at IU. His freshman year you could see flashes of NBA talent. His sophomore year, before his injury, you definitely knew he could contribute in the NBA. That's the only thing I miss about Tom Crean. He could find these talents that were overlooked and develop them. OG was a 3-star recruit, Oladipo was a 3-star recruit. It's just a shame he couldn't gameplan or adjust or understand when to call a timeout.
OG is a DAWG!! He simply makes his teammates so much better because he's not a ballhog unlike RJ. As for the Raptors fans who keep insisting we got fleeced.....no we didn't. We're 4-0 after all with the highest O&D ratings since the trade. It was a win-win for both teams and we both fill a void we desperately needed. IQ was going to walk anyways to get his $25-30M contract and starting position elsewhere so it really comes down to trading OG for RJ straight up. Plus OG's agent is Leon Rose's son and he even said he would only take a paycut if it's with the Knicks so that $35M contract he was expecting turns into $27.5M. The Knicks FO made a beast move.
We don't think you got fleeced bro, we love OG and we're happy to give RJ and IQ a chance. Most on our side like the trade for both teams. It was more Knicks fans at first think you guy got fleeced.
@@lannyfromcanada3485 Every post on Raptors socials "Knicks got fleeced". And I don't think us Knicks fans thought we got fleeced at all. We were all happy RJ was gone but seems like a lot of Knicks fans are just emotionally attached to IQ because he's such a high character guy with the most amazing vibes and has the ceiling of Tyrese Maxey. Sucks to see him go but he was bound to leave this offseason anyways.
@@lannyfromcanada3485 Seems like the majority of Raptors fans think we got fleeced because of the point differential between OG and RJ/IQ. Read all the comments on all these posts. It does get annoying I'm ngl. And Knicks fans don't think we got fleeced at all: most of us (excluding me) were more sad about seeing IQ leave than anything but it was inevitable that he was going to walk in FA anyways. We were emotionally attached to him, but at the end of the day we're excited that we improve tremendously as well.
Hes a young kawhi, before kawhi worked out with kobi. If everyone remembers kawhi started working out with kobi and his one on one game went through the roof. Id love to see him workout with kawhi or derozan
him and derozen played together in 2017-2018 season!!! but yeah hes really similar to Kawhi as a rookie. Keeps a low profile too and has a humble and chill demeanor
If they played toilet level teams during this small sample of games, I would blow all of this off as nothing of note and while yes, we all need to see more to actually give a real opinion, they won, on the road, againt a pretty good Philly team by over 30 points and beat the best team in the West- The Timberwolves
Not all role players are created equal. And OG is a championship caliber role player. Which is to say, put him in any starting 5 with one superstar and he will make them a contender.
Stephen Ass does not know what he is talking about. OG is a great fit on Knicks and will get better when Mitchell Robinson gets back. When I watch OG play he does all the little things needed to win.
As a raps fan OG is an elite defender and doesn't need to score to effect the game but will average 17 but will defend against Lillard,the freak,Tatum,brown ,butler
I was devastated when OG left the Raptors. he was my favourite player. I'm so happy that he is now receiving the praise that he is so worthy of. God bless OG!
Well....I'm not as upset as Stephan A. is. They got OG at a better deal than Toronto was asking last summer. He seems to be a catalyst for everything that is going right for the Knicks defensively AS WELL as offensively. As much as I liked RJ, OG spreads the court better because of his corner 3 efficiency. Deuce stepping up was a great surprise. I had my doubts but I'm a believer now!
OG Anunoby looks like he is on a different level defensively than everyone else on the knicks. That is because, in Toronto they give guys the tools they need to make an impact.
Most surprising to me is that not only is OG an improvement over Quickley, but IQ's production at the guard position is being replaced by Grimes and Deuce McBride who look unlocked with a more defined role in the rotation. So the production of RJ and Quick is being spread around 3 players and the defense is much better
The Knicks wanted this guy for this role. They paid the price he was listed for by Toronto. Stop comparing the trade, cause you lost that one based on price paid, but focus on a great defender you would otherwise never would have had.
Win Win - the raptors got one less expiring to worry for - Maybe they have some pieces to build around Pascal... But I still feel that they didn´t get too much value in a rebuild perspective. If they keep up with this new rhythm and get into the playoffs, maybe they can convince pascal to stay. But still this is kinda risky. The Knicks got OG, the wing defender they desperately needed, without giving away any valuable draft capital. Quickley was a tough loss, but they have assets to get some juice for the bench. They are doing great, Julius is having an amazing stretch... I really hope to see them get a deep run this year!
Raptors fan here, OG is great - he does a lot of the intangibles that don't always show up on the stat sheet. I feel both Knicks & Raptors got better with this trade.
OG is the real deal! The fact that most American Media thought the next got screwed over shows that most American Media does not care about the Raptors. They barely cared in 2019 when they beat the whole league and won the playoffs.... And OG was an important part of that 2019 team
Casual fans have always underrated the Raptors trade assets. “He’s not worth what they are asking!” “Who does Toronto think they have? Kevin Durant?? Why are they asking for all that?? lol Raptors fans are delusional”. No we know exactly the types of players we have and their impact. I’m really happy for the Knicks because they gave us a fair deal and now they are reaping the benefits. OG’s stats are not to be taken at surface value. He is that guy who opposing players have nightmares about because he is really strong, plays the passing lanes well and plays off ball really well. Can spot up and shoot to open up the floor for a guy like Randle. RJ & IQ have helped us a lot because it added depth to our rotation, gave us more versatility on offence and made us more fluid and less one dimensional. Win-win. Knicks one trade/signing away from a chip imo. Raps got a young core to build on. Fk the Celtics and Philly.
the addition by subtraction of Barrett is pretty big. Not that he isn't good at all but he overlaps far too much with Randle and the lack of spacing badly hurt. Quickely was good but we did have others that could play his minutes and then OG is just a huge plus on top. 3s, spacing, interior presence and incredible D. We got a lot better. Susceptible to if a player or two gets hurt or cold but we could catch fire and take it all.
I see in your report it's all about the Knicks, and I'm glad things are working out but the impact Barrett and Quickley are having with the Raptors is earth shaking as well. RJ 37pts just last night, great trade both teams are winning with their decisions to upgrade their team.
With OG it's a total defense leads to offense kind of deal. He's a solid 15PPG contributor but he gives you so much more. NYK better take care of him, he will surely be missed and I'm sure a lot of teams are pissed they didn't offer more.
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a whopping 12 points? 🤣🤣🤣 wasnt he averaging the same in toronto??
As a Raps fan let me tell you, OG doesn't have to score for you to feel his impact on the court
Appreciate it
Gonna miss him for sure
Goodluck with RJ dude frustrated the hell out of me but at least quickly is explosive
Yeah, we see.
@@dreadxplayzs7849 you guys will love OG. You'll miss a bit of RJ when you see precious play lol
Thus far, with the way the Raptors and Knicks are both looking, it's looking like this trade is a big win-win deal. Knicks are doing way better with OG, while the Raps are doing way better with Quickley and RJ. Hopefully both teams can keep it up!
RJ is at home so ig hes happy too
I like the way these Raptors look
yes with rj dropping 37pts already shooting 13-20.not bad.
@@hellosweetdreams That won't last unless he is your first option and that would be telling.
@@hellosweetdreamshe has one of those games at least once a year. The problem with RJ has always been his consistency.
It’s also important to bring up hartensteins impact. His energy on both sides of the ball has been excellent in the past few weeks, a lot of time electrifying the rest of the team. When hartenstein plays good, it seems the whole team is playing good
Facts! Love Mitchell Robinson but having Hartenstein start allows us to be more of an offensive threat which the knicks need and he is also a great defender!
what surprises me the most? nothing, im a raps fan, i know OG. out of everyone, he deserves the brightess lights, glad he's in NY. Anyway IQ and RJ are killing it right now
as a knick fan, really miss those guys ...
RJ is awful, biggest bust in draft history
@@ladistarlet’s take a step back here, think of all the top 3 draft picks and how many were genuinely bust. Take care or IQ & RJ for us, Raps
When you see OG, Hart, and Grimes on the court together, you’re in for a stretch were scoring becomes damn near impossible. We’re keeping teams to 100.6 ppg since the trade. Chicago was leading by 4 at half on us and in the last 6 minutes of that game, they were stuck on 95 points until Coby White hit an inconsequential 3 when the game was out of reach. The Sixers got their ish pushed in. We gave Embiid fits and Maxey was only effective using his speed. We held them to 92 points. OG put Anthony Edwards AND KAT in jail when he was guarding them. Oh and Josh Hart in his last TWO GAMES is a +74. The man is fucking everywhere.
Josh Hart: everything, everywhere, all at once.
They come in to get rebounds, shoot threes and play defense while the starters rest. The same 3 you named are capable defenders.
Not a Knicks fan but I'm being 100% serious when I say the NBA is just better when New York is a good team. I don't what it is, but them Knicks are like NBAs version of Dallas Cowboys and Yankees lol
If you want to talk about the biggest surprise on the knicks, you HAVE TO talk about Isaiah Hartenstein!
Ever since Mitchell Robinson got injured (15 games), Hartenstein is averaging 8.4 PPG/10.3 RPG/2.5 APG with 1.5 Steals and 1.8 Blocks a game. During that span, He is the only player in the entire NBA to be top 10 in both Steals and Blocks.
If you look at only the month of January (since the OG trade), he is even better averaging 10.5 PPG/13.5 RPG/2.8 APG with 2.3 Steals and 3.0 Blocks a game!!! His Blocks and Steals per game numbers in January are BOTH 2nd in the NBA (THIS IS CRAZY) with the only other player even in the top 10 of both being Tyrese Hailburton.
His advanced stats for the whole season are also shockingly great as he is 2nd in the entire NBA in Offensive Rebound % and 1st in dEPM (Defensive Estimated Plus-Minus) one of the most well regarded defensive stats.
He is playing like the most versatile center in the NBA and NO ONE outside of knicks fans talks about it. You GOTTA make a video about him.
Agree 💯
He was doing this when he got healthy last year
IHart is a certified beast. I'd argue that he's playing better than Mitchell Robinson was as a starter. I think the Knicks have some tough decisions to make this offseason.
Stats don't mean anything in the NBA.
@@JS96919 Yeah you're right. Like RJ's 18-20/avg every season and constantly having a negative +/- every game 🤣. But sure if you want to talk about individual stats, OK. However, team ratings DO matter.
I loved this trade for NY when it happened (i knew losing IQ and RJ was sad, but would open the game up for everyone else). Now that it’s been 4 games they’re playing better than I thought
Divincinzo, Og and brunson plus hartenstein is a monster lineup,if only Randle was more of a solid superstar with less turning over the ball I would be confident on the playoffs with them
@@dreadxplayzs7849no matter how good Julius plays, people always looking at the negative. Check out his last 20 games. I can say he's had 2 bad games in that stretch.
I feel like this will be a big W for both sides in the future
Why aren't you confident now? The Knicks easily have what it takes to win the championship this year.@@dreadxplayzs7849
Og definitely works on this team . I miss my guys but I’m never going to mad we winning. Let’s go Knicks !!
As a Raps fan it’s funny because we been saying OG a top 5 DPOY level defender for years now.. glad he getting the recognition he deserves with the NY media
Real talk. At first I felt a certain way about trading offense for defense like this despite the defense being much needed. I just grew too attached to Quickley on this team but you can't argue with the results. This trade has proven to be more than valuable for the Knicks.
Loving the love OG is getting. We miss him in Toronto but so far so good for both teams.
It seems they both hit walls with their personnel and needed to make a move to get things going. Knicks are 4-0 and Raps 3-1 and everyone not named Precious or Malachi (good riddance they’re gone) is thriving.
Nice to hear OG getting the recognition he deserves! Amazing that it took him moving to an American team for people to really take notice. NY got the best defender in the league - he can shut down any player, any position. Great player - even better human! So sad to see him leave - but so happy for him to be getting recognition … finally. ❤ you OG .. oh my!! 🇨🇦
Totally agree. Especially about finally getting the recognition he always deserved...along with alot of other Raps players
OG completely unlocks Brunson and Randle to their limits since he doesn't require the ball in his hands the way RJ does. As a 3 and D specialist, he spreads the floor so well and puts opposing stars in lockdown. The chemistry and flow is so much smoother than it was with RJ in the lineup and it's showing with these blowout wins over their opponents. I'm excited with this new look Knicks.
It's why I said that Thibs should have started Dante and Hart with Brunson, Randle and Mitch. The bench would have been IQ, RJ, Grimes and iHart. But Thibs is too hard headed.
@@RamonAcosta191i’ve said this too. Lineup becomes so much more balanced and dynamic. I wanted to see this so bad but can’t go back into the past now
You know ball.
Delusional Raptors and Knicks fans still want to debate "who won the trade" or whether "we gave up too much". Stats don't lie my friends. Defense creates offense and OG is making this happen. You don't need to throw up 15-20 points to be effective. His fit with this Knicks team is everything we've needed because he's an unselfish player who's an efficient 3pt shooter and gets easy points by cutting to the basket.
They both won the trade
I agree, his defense helps the team more, NYK already had scorers and its not like OG can't score, but now Randle doesn't have to focus on defense at all now (like he was before anyways 😂) and OGs decision making is far more solid than RJs by a long shot and RJ and Quickly's defense is borderline non existent.
True but they need someone one for the second team that can create….
@@purrpleciity1 Exactly. I've been saying this but Raptors fans continue to say we got fleeced. We both got the pieces we wanted and we're both thriving with our new pickups. Just end it at that. No one got fleeced whatsoever.
I think this trade made a ton of sense for both teams. I know people are down on RJ but he's still so young and I know people are making a fuss about the contract but it's truly not that bad tbh and once the new CBA kicks in its going to look that much better.
IQ is going to get his chance to shine. Great trade for both teams imo.
Ive been watching OG and the raps for long enough to tell you that the trade has given him a TON of energy. Hes always been a lockdown defender, but I think this trade was a good move for his mental too.
I'll miss Manny Quicks and RJ they did a lot for us. Happy to see Quickley get starter minutes he deserves it. It's a good trade for both teams.
Now DDV guards the second best player, and bam we are great. DDV creates offense when needed and is a deadly shooter. Og is a lock down defender and a deadly shooter. Ihart is a great passer, pretty good offensive piece and a great rebounder and underrated rim protector. Then randle is the bully down low and JB is the offensive maestro. This starting lineup is AMAZING. People who don't know basketball sleep on this team lol
If you watched RJ with the Knicks he was not good fit as a third option. Too many times he was out on the perimeter, with his hands out waiting to get the ball and if he got it, he would force a bad shot on many occasions. He played selfishly in his attempt to "get his" IMO. He's not a bad player but he has his limitations. OG gives them more balance and elite defense on the perimeter obviously which the Knicks desperately needed, stretches the floor, and plays well off the ball which is something Barrett has not learned yet. Giving up Quickley was tough, but this was a win-win trade for both teams
Great video, all these points are true. The spacing is much better, OG’s ability to impact the game without dominating the ball is huge. Him being an elite on-ball defender, with size, who can defend 1 through 4, is huge for this team.
Also, the Knicks roster had a lot of redundancy. Randle, JB, RJ, and IQ (to an extent) need the ball in their hands to impact the game. RJ does what Julius does, except not as well. Quickley does what Brunson does, except not as well.
The roster construction is vastly improved now.
Excellent post
Minor quibble, OG can and often has guarded one through five at an elite level, sometimes in back to back games.
In that narrow criterion alone he could significantly improve many teams, which partly explains why so many teams have been trying to acquire his services, and why the Raptors had up until this point declined all offers.
The Knicks had more need of said services than some teams, far more than the Raptors,who are loaded with long versatile defenders.
Pascal Siakam and Scottie Barnes can and have guarded one through five at an elite level, and can and have also played one through five.
OG was a blessing much appreciated, and will be missed, but the Raptors needed help in other areas... and got it with this trade.
@@dabaconpham7313 agreed. I genuinely think both teams won (even being an RJ critic). Toronto was in need of shot creation and got it. NYK needed a versatile defender, and got it.
Meanwhile the Raps just took a blowtorch to the Dubs on their own floor, with RJ sinking 37 on 13 for 20. Barnes only scored 6 points and we still waxed 'em.
I thought it was pretty obvious from rip that this was a win/win trade for both teams, who've both gotten EXACTLY what they needed at their current stages of development. That said, I didn't expect both teams to improve as much as they have. Good to see tho...most Raps fans will always have love for OG, so I'm delighted to see him fitting in like a glove and getting a brighter light on his game. As for us, we still gotta figure this Siakam thing out...either gotta extend him or deal him. But having a team that's fun to watch again has been a victory in itself.
Knicks getting obi one kenobi is a win
As a Knicks fan living in Philly who went to the game, friday was the best night of my life
This is with Mitchell Robinson out who was putting up a historic season in terms of offensive rebounding prior to injury. He also looked like he was going to be All-Defense this year as well imo. Although, Hartenstein has been balling out of his mind in his stead.
Oh fuck I forgot about him they defence is bout to be all time
@@probablyyourdad it's the defense but also the rebounding. He was putting up a Moses Malone type of offensive rebounding efficiency. I can't wait until he gets back. I just wonder what moves the FO is planning next. There was a report that Mitch was out for the season but idt there was ever an official statement. Not sure why they're being ambiguous about his status.
I feel like the Knicks are still missing THE guy. Randle and Brunson are both very good though. They should both be all stars imo.
@@Corso117that's a stretch
@@Youralwayswhining4367 what is a stretch?
i wouldn't mind trading mitchell this offseason he is way too injury prone
OG "was" the most underrated player in the league, I'm not really sure why or how, but now that all the spotlight is on him, the people can see him for the true talent that he is!
I am a Raptors fan and I remember distinctively that every single time OG was out of the lineup with injury the raptors would badly struggle for wins. At the time you think ok he can't be that impactful, not when his numbers are not the greatest, but in reality the man brings so much more to the court that meets the eyes.
Thanks for giving us Barret and Quickley, two starters for one. We just annihilated Golden State. RJ with 37 pts.
Who cares. U can have him. Inconsistent, not a good defender nd shooting leaves alot to be desired. Tell us all how it's going for u n 3months. Right now, enjoy thr honeymoon period. It'll soon come to a crashing hault
@@rthompson1330 That's right I forgot to mention, they were at Golden State tonight
@rthompson1330 😅 u been smoking 🚬 🚭 too much, son 😂 Raptors are Nba Champions 2019 don't forget about that.
In all fairness both teams have been doing well since the trade.
It's truly a win-win trade by every definition of the word
Raptors lost because defense. They have to trade pascal too. Knicks won in the moment and long run
They just put a versatile Swiss Army knife in the hands of one of the NBA's best defensive coaches.
No team lost they both got wat they needed
Americans are just discovering what Canadians have known for years. The repeated ignorance from so called analysts calling Raptors fans unrealistic for 'overvaluing' our players, and insults towards Ujiri for demanding too much in return for his players, just goes to show you how deep the anti-Foreign bias goes in the NBA.
This trade is the best case scenario for both teams.
Anunoby opens up the paint to allow your facilitators to work not just by spacing the floor, but by covering the otherside of the ball whenever misses or turnovers happen.
Likewise, RJ and IQ add actual offensive facilitation to a team that has stagnated offensively every year since the Chip. I honestly think the Raptors have a chance to make the playoffs this year.
When all the couch-GMs were saying OG didn't move the needle, I thought they were crazy. The SAS take blew me away, OG was valued so high for a reason.
He is elite defensively, absolutely elite. Game changing defensive wings are huge in this league and he is one of a very few that have this impact level.
When og comes in to play with that second unit of Mcbride grimes and hart the defense is spectacular. Hoping Robinson comes back healthy so we can see him with that unit
This trade made both sides happy and sad at the same time. It was for the best for all players and teams involved. Toronto loves OG and we miss him 💪
As a Knicks fan ofcourse I like this. I do think the 1 to 1 comparison of Quickley's perimeter offense to OG's is a little too bias in favor of the Knicks. Quickley is way more versatile on what he can do with the ball in his hands. Nonetheless I do think overall OG is a better fit than RJ (obviously) and he was more of a need for us than IQ.
This was just a great trade all round, both teams got quality players they needed
Good trade for both ends. Happy RJ and IQ are doing well in Toronto and LOVE what OG has brought to my Knicks! Him, Hart, Hartenstein and Devo have been FIERCE lately. Love the hustle, love the grind and loving the ride from this trade
When stephen A wasn’t “moved” by the trade, I knew it was a great move
That seems to be the consensus with him I'm noticing this too
Lol😂😂
We made this trade at the perfect time! Knicks have a easy schedule this month so we’ll be able to get in a good rhythm
Raps fans already knew all of this, he should have been DPOY but was ignored because he was on the Raps. US media/fans are dumb AF. Also, he is an NBA champion as well, let's not forget to mention that (even tho he didn't play).
No, bad take kid this year a candidate. But there area few dpoy candidates this year. Some are injured as well.
@@Youralwayswhining4367 wrong
OG's addition is only one part of a 2 part story. Hartenstein, in Mitchell Robinson's injury absence, has been outstanding at the 5. His ability to pass extremely well from the high post and out, set textbook screens and picks, having good hands and timing when defending the rim ... damn. Having a .450+ 3PT shooter in the corner has boosted his worth as well on O, and the Knicks have something they mightn't have even seen without bad luck turning into good luck. We're on the way up, and a good rebounding PF in the second unit (not Dejounte Murray) is all we need to maintain the upward progress.
Stats are tools, and just like tools, they are only as good as the person using them. Some people think building the best team is just a math equation. Almost like you want to add up all your player NBA 2k ratings and have the highest number. Chemistry and finding the right pieces goes beyond stats.
Knicks were a decent defensive team with Robinson and plummeted after his injury… but OG insertion and defensive intelligence allows the other 4 players to shift their defensive prowess from a position of weakness now to a position of strength… meaning.. they now are able to operate at a position of strength on defense..and not having to get blitz on every play
OG is the perfect player for Tom. Hes always been a hard-nosed defensive coach.
The spacing is phenomenal now
Absolutely phenomenal as well as impressive. OG going to set the bar on both sides of the court for the Knicks
Both teams filled their needs! Its a win a win situation for both Knicks and Raptors
Stephen A Smith also wasn't moved to favor the Raptors to win the NBA championship in 2019. OG was/is a menace on defense. He's the type of player you need to win a championship. HIs role isn't to score or fill up a stat line. He helps you win games.
Defence wins basketball. Hart, OG, and Donte are all great 3&D players.
And Grimes
This is by far the best trade the Knicks have done in the past decade with Brunson.
OG doesn't need to score to be impactful.. sadly missed in TO, but good trade for both sides.
Knicks need to move heaven and earth to get Bridges from the Nets. He would be the perfect fit. 2 big time defensive wings who can shoot the 3. We would be an instant contender. Fournier, plus 3 first round pick.
that wouldn't be enough to get him. They'd have to throw in Grimes & 4 unprotected 1sts at the minimum. Even then, Brooklyn may not be interested in trading him.
@@peteranzano267 Would also have to just not be the Knicks lmao. Mikal on Brooklyn is a lock for the forseeable future and the Nets trading with the Knicks might not happen in any future
@@eeeennnn832 true, but I did already say that. Did you read the last sentence of my comment?
OG reminds me of Larry Johnson type of player. If thats the case....then we're in great shape 😂
Kawhi too.
Og is more kawlh sprewell sprewell was the original kawlh
Not LJ. He was too skilled offensively in comparison to OG.
As a witness to the Knicks championship teams, this trade could be the most important deal the Knicks have made since i968 when the Knicks acquired Dave DeBusschere. That was the final piece of the puzzle. I’m not saying championship this year but 47-35 and a trip to the semifinals is a very real possibility. 🏀
Nah knicks absolutely have what it takes to win the championship this year
OG +/- had always been high during his time with the Raptors.
RJ just dropped 37 and he's the second best player the raps got back. I hope OG wins the title there. I really do. But we gud!
Both won in the trade, crazy
The reason for the improved net rating isn't because OG shoots the lights out but because he eats the other team's soul on defense.
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Loved watching OG when was in college at IU. His freshman year you could see flashes of NBA talent. His sophomore year, before his injury, you definitely knew he could contribute in the NBA. That's the only thing I miss about Tom Crean. He could find these talents that were overlooked and develop them. OG was a 3-star recruit, Oladipo was a 3-star recruit. It's just a shame he couldn't gameplan or adjust or understand when to call a timeout.
If the Raptors and the Knicks meet in the playoffs it would be a fun series with a lot of storylines
Exactly 💯 I was thinking about this yesterday. It would be an interesting 🤔
OG is a DAWG!! He simply makes his teammates so much better because he's not a ballhog unlike RJ. As for the Raptors fans who keep insisting we got fleeced.....no we didn't. We're 4-0 after all with the highest O&D ratings since the trade. It was a win-win for both teams and we both fill a void we desperately needed. IQ was going to walk anyways to get his $25-30M contract and starting position elsewhere so it really comes down to trading OG for RJ straight up. Plus OG's agent is Leon Rose's son and he even said he would only take a paycut if it's with the Knicks so that $35M contract he was expecting turns into $27.5M. The Knicks FO made a beast move.
We don't think you got fleeced bro, we love OG and we're happy to give RJ and IQ a chance. Most on our side like the trade for both teams. It was more Knicks fans at first think you guy got fleeced.
@@lannyfromcanada3485 Every post on Raptors socials "Knicks got fleeced". And I don't think us Knicks fans thought we got fleeced at all. We were all happy RJ was gone but seems like a lot of Knicks fans are just emotionally attached to IQ because he's such a high character guy with the most amazing vibes and has the ceiling of Tyrese Maxey. Sucks to see him go but he was bound to leave this offseason anyways.
@@lannyfromcanada3485 Seems like the majority of Raptors fans think we got fleeced because of the point differential between OG and RJ/IQ. Read all the comments on all these posts. It does get annoying I'm ngl. And Knicks fans don't think we got fleeced at all: most of us (excluding me) were more sad about seeing IQ leave than anything but it was inevitable that he was going to walk in FA anyways. We were emotionally attached to him, but at the end of the day we're excited that we improve tremendously as well.
Hes a young kawhi, before kawhi worked out with kobi. If everyone remembers kawhi started working out with kobi and his one on one game went through the roof. Id love to see him workout with kawhi or derozan
him and derozen played together in 2017-2018 season!!! but yeah hes really similar to Kawhi as a rookie. Keeps a low profile too and has a humble and chill demeanor
Great video!Lets Go Knicks!!!
If they played toilet level teams during this small sample of games, I would blow all of this off as nothing of note and while yes, we all need to see more to actually give a real opinion, they won, on the road, againt a pretty good Philly team by over 30 points and beat the best team in the West- The Timberwolves
I'm surprised you didn't mention the GERMAN GIANT!!! He's been a monster. Not just rebounds but steals and blocks!!
Not all role players are created equal.
And OG is a championship caliber role player.
Which is to say, put him in any starting 5 with one superstar and he will make them a contender.
I love how Hartenstein was in a lot of these highlights but the youtuber didn't even say his name as if OG was making those plays and not Hartenstein
Stephen Ass does not know what he is talking about. OG is a great fit on Knicks and will get better when Mitchell Robinson gets back. When I watch OG play he does all the little things needed to win.
As a raps fan OG is an elite defender and doesn't need to score to effect the game but will average 17 but will defend against Lillard,the freak,Tatum,brown ,butler
I was devastated when OG left the Raptors. he was my favourite player. I'm so happy that he is now receiving the praise that he is so worthy of. God bless OG!
Well....I'm not as upset as Stephan A. is. They got OG at a better deal than Toronto was asking last summer. He seems to be a catalyst for everything that is going right for the Knicks defensively AS WELL as offensively. As much as I liked RJ, OG spreads the court better because of his corner 3 efficiency. Deuce stepping up was a great surprise. I had my doubts but I'm a believer now!
OG Anunoby looks like he is on a different level defensively than everyone else on the knicks. That is because, in Toronto they give guys the tools they need to make an impact.
Spacing and flow are what I have also noticed. The Knicks still need another offensive wing that can be a quality 3rd option.
Most surprising to me is that not only is OG an improvement over Quickley, but IQ's production at the guard position is being replaced by Grimes and Deuce McBride who look unlocked with a more defined role in the rotation. So the production of RJ and Quick is being spread around 3 players and the defense is much better
Raps fan here just checking up on my pal OG lol , you guys got a baller whos one of the best defensive players in the league by the way
Both teams won this trade. Raptors look great now as well.
Like the kings pacers trade last year this trade will improve both teams it was a trade that both teams needed to improve
The Knicks wanted this guy for this role. They paid the price he was listed for by Toronto. Stop comparing the trade, cause you lost that one based on price paid, but focus on a great defender you would otherwise never would have had.
Win Win - the raptors got one less expiring to worry for - Maybe they have some pieces to build around Pascal... But I still feel that they didn´t get too much value in a rebuild perspective. If they keep up with this new rhythm and get into the playoffs, maybe they can convince pascal to stay. But still this is kinda risky.
The Knicks got OG, the wing defender they desperately needed, without giving away any valuable draft capital. Quickley was a tough loss, but they have assets to get some juice for the bench. They are doing great, Julius is having an amazing stretch... I really hope to see them get a deep run this year!
Og is calm defensive highIQ and 3 pt shooting gives other teams worried
OG has always reminded me of a young kawhi. He seems very coachable and disciplined
He is a great fit on both sides of the court n give Deuce a chance we have enough guards
Raptors fan here, OG is great - he does a lot of the intangibles that don't always show up on the stat sheet. I feel both Knicks & Raptors got better with this trade.
Those that were unhappy with this trade, don’t know Ball! INCLUDING SAS!
OG is the real deal! The fact that most American Media thought the next got screwed over shows that most American Media does not care about the Raptors. They barely cared in 2019 when they beat the whole league and won the playoffs.... And OG was an important part of that 2019 team
The brother dope excellent choice, shoutout to the knicks organization job well done.
Wasn’t a fan of the trade but og defense is deff bringing different feel to the team
Casual fans have always underrated the Raptors trade assets. “He’s not worth what they are asking!” “Who does Toronto think they have? Kevin Durant?? Why are they asking for all that?? lol Raptors fans are delusional”. No we know exactly the types of players we have and their impact. I’m really happy for the Knicks because they gave us a fair deal and now they are reaping the benefits. OG’s stats are not to be taken at surface value. He is that guy who opposing players have nightmares about because he is really strong, plays the passing lanes well and plays off ball really well. Can spot up and shoot to open up the floor for a guy like Randle. RJ & IQ have helped us a lot because it added depth to our rotation, gave us more versatility on offence and made us more fluid and less one dimensional. Win-win. Knicks one trade/signing away from a chip imo. Raps got a young core to build on. Fk the Celtics and Philly.
Anybody who doesn’t know ball thought this trade was bad . It was the perfect trade OG is exactly what we needed
Way to go OG make us proud!
From: Toronto, Canada!
the addition by subtraction of Barrett is pretty big. Not that he isn't good at all but he overlaps far too much with Randle and the lack of spacing badly hurt. Quickely was good but we did have others that could play his minutes and then OG is just a huge plus on top. 3s, spacing, interior presence and incredible D. We got a lot better. Susceptible to if a player or two gets hurt or cold but we could catch fire and take it all.
Even tho I'm not a Knicks fan, as a new Yorker it feels good to see them making winning moves...now to get rid of Randle and they'll be sailing
Great trade. Both sides seem to have gotten better and managed to solve future problems.
I seen it since day 1. OG is a brick wall. He's built like a tank and is even stronger. In so glad he got to go somewhere to be a difference maker.
I think it's pretty obvious that SA doesn't know what he's talking about
When Robinson comes back with hartenstein on the rotation they’re gonna be terrifying
The thing is this isn’t against just bad teams we beat Philly on the road and Minnesota at home.
I see in your report it's all about the Knicks, and I'm glad things are working out but the impact Barrett and Quickley are having with the Raptors is earth shaking as well. RJ 37pts just last night, great trade both teams are winning with their decisions to upgrade their team.
Not really surprised by much, I didn't think we'd lock teams up to 100ppg but I knew we'd loo more complete. Good stuff.
The whole team is playing much better as a unit and putting up wins. I think the Knicks will finish their season as a top 5 team in their conference.
With OG it's a total defense leads to offense kind of deal. He's a solid 15PPG contributor but he gives you so much more. NYK better take care of him, he will surely be missed and I'm sure a lot of teams are pissed they didn't offer more.