California Forever in Solano County | Explained
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2024
- After discreetly buying land for years, Flannery Associates LLC has acquired more than 50,000 acres and is ready to move on with its idea of creating a new city.
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Thanks for sharing. People really need to be informed about this.
Aain, no real questions from the media. After nearly seven years of secrecy, this billionaire group is showing artsy images as their "plan", but none of these are real architectural/engineering drawings.
What the media should be asking:
-Why did this group work in secrecy for so many years, instead of coordinating with the county planning process, like most developers.
-This investor group has ZERO experience in RE and land development. Why do they think this will succeed?
-How much will the taxpayers be investing in main roads and other infrastructure ?
-Why are they suing the local landowners who refused to sell their land, for $500 million???
And so on.
That Guy is ex-trader from Wall Street. This fact saying about more... California Forever - Big Fake Project.
they're billionaires for a reason. I don't think they really owe anyone a reason. I'm sure they can find a legal way around anything.
where is the trash going ??in ur back yard?tons pf trash daily have to go somewhere
This immigrant is more American than 90% of journalists. I say, invite him to be a US citizen and let him build and do stuff and make a better future. Apparently regular old Americans forgot how to do good things and make a better future by working hard and doing difficult things, rather than just blocking and complaining other people who are TRYING!
where is the garbage dump going??in ur back yard??tons of trash daily have to go somewhere
This is going to be a gentrification of farmlands. Who'll be able to afford to live in their utopia? Will it be the displaced tech employees of Silicon Valley or the local residents of Rio Vista and Fairfield?
tech retirees, I reckon
No migrants? How mean??
I'll move there
where is the garbage dump going???
@@kennethbyrne-kj5duwhere is your garbage going?
I can tell from the comments that most people don't have a clue about where this is and what is proposed. The media is NOT helpful. They want to hype the controversy. This guy wants his kids to grow up in a community without cars dominating every aspect of life. I wish him success.
Without cars? In the middle of nowhere?
So just sell his own car and walk or maybe that fascist not only doesn't want his own car but also doesn't want you to have a car. Typical fascist
Everything you need is in the city, why would you need a car? @@arxligion
Yes, but the problem is that they're wanting to take farmland to do it. For a risk. I want good urbanism, but good urbanism within. I grew up in a rural to suburbia transition area. It's easier to say how much good it would bring, but you have no idea the impact that it actually has.
It was mostly woodland and farmland, they had to dynamite parts of it. You have no idea how devastating environmentally it is. I seen so many animal carcasses.
In a way, at least this is just farmland. It'll be a little less devastating. And if it's going on our farmlands how are we going to feed the people?
I always wonder this question because I see fewer and fewer farmland and yet we have more and more demand for resources. We may have a housing crisis today but tomorrow we may have something for worse. A food crisis.
I'd be impressed if they can build this new city without use of cars, trucks, bull dozers, fork lifts, etc. I think the guy is on a very powerful stimulant
I think the planner from UC Berkeley has the best idea, spend the money in the other cities of the state, very good interviewer. Why gobble ranchland where there are plenty of cities around and who's going to live there, Mr. Roger's neighborhood. The entrepeneur gives himself away by saying " we want to build the city of yesterday " . Silicon Valley is a US jewel but it creates a euphoric vision in these entrepreneurs that they can change everything from scratch.
Unfortunately progressive urbanism doesn't pass through city council in many places. Still today there are complains over bike lanes, people still aren't ready to admit that walkable cities are the future.
always farm land where will the food come from an where will the garbage go???
This is showing, that we are tired of the normal community structure.
I feel sorry for the people that unwittingly gave away their land already to this charlantan.
They knew what they were doing, they wanted the money
I wouldn't trust Sramek twice as far as I could throw him. He was anything but transparent until he was found out. Way too close for comfort to Travis. He's railroaded old local ranchers off their land. This guy is NOT YOUR FRIEND. Be very careful what you wish for, Solano Co. There won't be any turning back with this turkey once he gets his foot in the door.
Yes. And ZERO experience as a land developer. And why are they suing local landowners who refused to sell to them, for $500 million??
There are millions of Chinese Seniors waiting to reunite with their Children in America
It’s a lovely design, but I wonder local & national engineering & building codes will allow California Forever to really be built as envisioned.
There's no National zoning laws. That's the property of the states and the local municipality. If the land is unincorporated and not belonging to any municipality in particular, then the developers can build whatever they want and even have the place incorporated as a city. In California any unincorporated area that can demonstrate the ability to pay for their own Municipal services can incorporate as a municipality.
If the land belonged to municipality in opposition all they have to do is Zone it out of existence.
@@luisarroyo1368 I’m not talking about zoning, I’m talking about engineering codes that dictate how wide streets must be, how widely corners have to be rounded at street intersections, and how wide lanes must be. I’m also talking about the International Building Code, which among other things requires that buildings over two floors high have at least two separate stairways. Mandates of modern building & engineering codes explain why new urban construction usually looks much bigger, blockier, and spread out than than the pre-World War 2 cityscapes we love in cities like Philadelphia, Boston & San Francisco.
Money talks.
0:55 They want to recreate a vision of old school communities that’s we’ve destroyed everywhere else.
where is the garbage dump going??in ur back yard
You want to recreate this in an area next to a massive wind farm where afternoon windspeeds are around 30mph?
Let's go walk down town in half a hurricane. Oh joy. The "Delta Breeze" at 95F and 30mph feels so 'refreshing'. Stand in the wind and look at the wind turbines whilst the topping on your tacos is being blown away onto the sidewalk. Ah, romance...
Sounds like he wants to build a more Davis version of Davis. Just not based on school and students being the population. There are a lot of bikes in Davis for anyone not familiar with the area.
Why would this guy move to Fairfield if he wanted to live in a more bike friendly city! 😂 Oh wait, because he probably bought a mansion outside of Fairfield in Green Valley so he wouldn’t have to deal with congested city life!
How about starting with Slab City? They have a head start.
Why is East Solano Plan not accepting comments on their posts? Their posts state millions of gallons of water are being wasted on people who have invested money on farms. These are only sections of this land that are irrigated. Most of the land is used for grazing and uses rain for watering. The only people 'needing' this city are the people from the bay area. Solano county has had so many businesses close. Look at the Solano Mall. I don't understand how the investors think their businesses will fair any better. My vote is "NO".
Billionaires ???? Over open farm land ??? … Stay away
The fact that the city planner said it has the potential for 400,000 people means a big vote NO for me!
I’m glad I own a house there it’s going to skyrocket 😎
"no Chinese involvement". wondering which government official asked this
This is sketchy and it’s obvious they tried to hide their motives to avoid pushback
Sounds like a 15 minute city. A prison.
will someone PLEASE ask this question "where is the garbage going"???? new dump? use the neighboring cities dump?? i havent heard anyone address this problem tons of trash daily have to go somewhere will it go in ur back yard theres lots of empty lots in every city in Ca
Is this another idea ready to fail like the high speed rail that will most likely never take off
I do think investors and developers should be revitalizing the main streets and downtowns that are already falling apart. Building within the infrastructure and community that is already in place. However, as long as boomers are in control of the government positions local, state and federal; this country and its communities within will continue to crumble. Infrastructure is crumbling, housing is lacking, education is failing etc. and the boomers constantly stand in the way of anything new. As other countries progress forward in innovation and future thinking we will continue to fall behind.
Just buying up future coastline - sea level rising coupled with the San Andreas fault giving way.... it will probably become prime coast line. lol..🤔😅
The city of yesterday??? Sounds like Make America Great Again!!!!
Indeed. America was better before the invention of the car.
It's full of the same BS.
MAGA says " we don't want foreign ivestment."
MAGA does: build here.
As a local resident, west of the Delta breeze, towards the hills, I would hate to live there. If your idea of fun is living in a place where afternoon wind is living somewhere there's a hairdryer blowing wind at 100F and 30mph across your backyard every single day in the evening during summer then enjoy. Those massive wind farms 100 yards away are a giant clue how windy it gets. Why was this the area of the first windfarm in the US. You'll realize why.
When there are hundreds of massive wind turbines the other side of Hwy 12, you know it's going to be super windy. Fact is that this wind, also known as the Delta Breeze, blows in the area upto 35 mph every evening between early spring and early winter. makes live hard and is the reason why historically people haven't lived here.
I've lived in Vacaville which is north of this development. About a decade ago they proposed development east of the town. I laughed because I knew that people would move there and then hate it. I knew someone that wanted to move there and warned them against it. A year later they left - and this isn't the worst of the Delta Breeze. They only typically saw 30mph. LOL
If you want to live here, welcome... but download "Windy" app to your phone and see what you're getting yourself into. A life without backyard furniture and the ability to have parties half of the year. I don't joke.
Don't believe me? Go stand at the layby's on Hwy12 near the junction of Hwy 113. You're in a dip there so the wind won't be so bad but just make sure you don't open the passenger and drive side doors at the same time. :)
A lot of the proposed project is on farm land. Let's get real here. We need farm land to grow our food as a stable source to sustain life. However, here in California I wonder what farm industry has offer to the community other than a breeding ground for homeless encampments and the only job offered are for undocumented migrants. Giving a choice of transforming to all these unsightly encampments and enriching the locales with high-tech jobs, guess the choice is obvious. I'm just amazed that people seem to hold on to delusional thoughts on the cons rather than the pros.
The Bay Area is the NIMBY capitol of the world. This will never pass. Build it in The Central Valley, where people would enthusiastically try to get this built.
It's not that. Personally, I'd be all for a new community and as a nearby Vacaville resident, I support new initiatives to build new properties, like on the new Jepson project off Leisure Town Rd near I-80 and Leisure Town Rd. As residents that have bought east of Leisure Town Rd have found, things get very windy in the afternoon.
But this one just sucks. I would hate to live there. If your idea of fun is living in a place where afternoon wind is living somewhere there's a hairdryer blowing wind at 100F and 30mph across your backyard every single day in the evening during summer then enjoy. Those massive wind farms 100 yards away are a giant clue how windy it gets. Why was this the area of the first windfarm in the US. You'll realize why.
When there are hundreds of massive wind turbines the other side of the highway, you know it's going to be super windy. Fact is that this wind, also known as the Delta Breeze, blows in the area upto 35 mph every evening between early spring and early winter. makes live hard and is the reason why historically people haven't lived here.
I've lived in Vacaville which is north of this development. About a decade ago they proposed development east of the town. I laughed because I knew that people would move there and then hate it. I knew someone that wanted to move there and warned them against it. A year later they left - and this isn't the worst of the Delta Breeze. They only typically saw 30mph. LOL
If you want to live here, welcome... but download "Windy" app to your phone and see what you're getting yourself into. A life without backyard furniture and the ability to have parties half of the year. I don't joke.
Don't believe me? Go stand at the layby's on Hwy12 near the junction of Hwy 113. You're in a dip there so the wind won't be so bad but just make sure you don't open the passenger and drive side doors at the same time. :)
Look for lawsuits from the developers when this voted down. No way they have put out millions of dollars of secret and hostile investment and advertising without a fight. When it comes to what the voters want it doesn't matter. It's how much money are they willing to spend fighting against this.
"Tomorrow land"? LoL😀 Go 4 it.
Name it Collinsville
Open air 15 minute prisons
“And we would like to control the land next to Travis AF Base”, said in an attempt to slyly slid it in? 😉😮 ☹️
They think we’re a bunch of rubes who just fell off the proverbial “Turnip Truck”.
Bitcoin City
Build back better!!!!!!!!!
Can't we just send a few million migrants there as soon as they build this utopia? Are they going to make their own solar panels in the new city and create jobs? Are they going to mine their own minerals in an environmentally friendly way?
Hmmm not sure about this guy…who are the billionaire investors? Russians, China?
HOA ??????
HOA is the scurge of America. As a Brit I find this concept vile.
HOA=Home Owners Associate. It's a group of Karens that tell you how the area has to look.
I don't get why people are hating so much this country is severely lacking in walkable cities and it makes sense that this guy would rather start a city from scratch instead of dealing with the bureaucracy of existing cities.
Who’s believes this guy when he says it’s for the middle class?? 😂there is no middle class the way California is going fright now
how else would you build it from up to the ground?😂 ppl trip me out with how they talk
We need more homes!
And where is the water coming from? Do tell.
@@Swampster70 The water can come from the abundance of reservoir not wasted on the few family cartel farmers growing alfalfa in the California dessert and selling them to Asia for animal feed.
@@makitata9576 Care to explain what you said because it's all over the shop.
The basic facts are that California is in a water deficit. We use more than we get. Alfalfa is largely grown in Nevada up near Reno. The usual "I want to complain about this crop" in California is almonds... Which is it?
Kayaks in the dessert
Big baloney.
Just days before Flannery Associates revealed itself, my husband and I put a deposit on a lot and started building a house in a new Rio Vista neighborhood that abuts the proposal. As I write, we’re a week from moving so the issue is very personal. Initially I was in favor of the project but the more I learn, the more I lean towards a no vote in November. The ballot measure Flannery has put forth asks Solano county voters to void a law that requires new development to happen under the jurisdiction of existing municipalities. Why do they need to do their own thing?