Picked up the Nikon Z50 as my first camera to try to learn photography with it, and absolutely found a new forever hobby. So comfortable to hold, such incredibly vibrant images (the bokeh is amazing), and that 50-250mm lens is so versatile. The Nikon Z50 II releases in Canada today, and I can't wait to pick it up!
Yes I loved my Z50 MK 1, sold it off recently with some old gear (F) and pre-ordered the Z50 MK 2 - for the improvements from Z6 III - Z9 derived AF and tech (expeed 7)
It’s hilarious to see people unhappy with the Z50 II, saying, "We need this, we need that." Lol, you absolutely don’t. Just don’t buy this camera. Get a Z8, shoot in DX mode and stop whining.
@@wewlad107 If you need IBIS, there are plenty bodies offering it. This camera is geared towards a specific market. If it doesn’t answer your needs, I am sure there’s something out there you can buy instead.
I still love my original Z50. It is a great take anywhere and travel camera. I recently bought the Viltrox 20mm lens; this is an AF lens that costs only 189 Euro and delivers great image quality. The 20mm becomes a 30mm equivalent on the Z50. I find that a great focal length as a general walk around lens. Highly recommended!
I just picked up a Nikon Z30 with both kit lenses for $549 during Nikon’s refurbished days. Something about smaller underdog cameras that attract me. So far both lenses are pretty darn good. Miss a view screen, but maybe I’ll try full frame later.
I have owned a Z50 for a while now and when I first read about the Z50II I decided that I would keep my Z50 for the time being hoping that another crop sensor model would be announced sometime in future that has a higher resolution sensor. IBIS is not a requirement for me but no doubt it would be nice to have. However, after watching a number of videos about the Z50II including this morning's Gray's of Westminster live stream where they had a Z50II on hand, my resolve to wait is weakening. I still want that higher resolution DX sensor camera but expect it will be at least two years before there are even credible rumors that it is being developed. Would love to be wrong and an announcement is just around the corner, but I doubt it. I also own the Viltrox 75mm F1.2 lens but have only used it once with so-so results (my fault no doubt). I agree 100%, the kit lenses deliver wonderful results, but just a couple days before the Z50II official announcement I bought the 24mm F1.7 DX and 28mm F2.8 FX lenses.
The Z50 is my preferred camera when hiking and climbing. The battery life just kills me, I take noticbly fewer portrait orientation photos, and I do wish a Z 16-80mm f2.8-4 DX existed, but it's such a tight kit. The II fixes basically everything (except my dream lens) that I wanted fixed with the Z50. If only I could get a reasonable trade in value for the Z50, scratching the screen with my crampons certainly didn't help on that front lol. My absolute dream was for the Z50ii to have a slightly larger EVF, a SD+Micro SD dual card slot like the Zf, and hookups for a grip.
Z50 user here since it came out and I love it. I've preordered the new model, but I will be incredibly upset if they release a higher end Z70(?) in the next month or two.
Agree but Nikon should have done the Z70 already / prior to Z50 MK 2 in a Z6 body with IBIS - maybe higher res MP 24-32mp and then derive the Z70 tech down to Z50 II ( maybe with no IBIS and 20mp sensor) -> then derive the tech down to MK 2 of ZFC and Z30; Nikon really baffles me sometimes and amazing how they remain competitive with some of their howl up's they have done (eg D400)
@@clancydubh you have to consider the cost of new sensor development in the grand scheme. They've only done 2 since the Z system launched in 2018. The z9/8 and the z6iii. The Z7s use the d850s Sony sensor, all the apsc varients use the D500s Sony sensor and the Z6(ii) and Zf use a crazy good, but old Sony 24mp sensor. Developing a new sensor is a huge endeavor. I'd love a DX sensor like fuji has recently developed too, but I doubt Nikon thinks their market will support the R&D costs. They're clearly focused on the higher end full frame market primarily and working to keep costs low on the Aps-c front. Many of us would love a bad ass new Aps-c body, but 'how many of us' is the question... It would have to be a new sensor as the Z8/9 in DX mode outperforms the Z50's sensor. I would not hold my breath.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto - don't call a sensor in a Nikon a "Sony" sensor. The reason it is labelled Sony is because it got printed by Sony Semiconductor. That operating company of Sony's is a "fab" or "foundry" - a "chip printing company". Nikon using Sony as "foundry"started in the time when Nikon developed and produced the "chip printers" (which Canon did as well). Around 2000, a startup got formed in Europe that started to develop and make such printers too when Nikon and Canon had problems to keep up tempo with Moore's Law and reducing the "step size" - the last generation is a 1 nanometre. The way this industry works is in that you as client of the foundry create the logical chip design (which you do in special CAD software). The design looks like the logical design of the printed circuit board drawing with your Japanese tuner or amplifier, decades ago. So that's not a physical design. The CAD program can virtually run the circuit to test it. When that phase is done, the design is sent to the foundry that converts it into a "physical design" and again will run tests to verify that logical assumptions can be expected to be realised in the printed chips later on. Because of how the printer e.g. can route connections, and a "bit" is like a collection of charges that walks through the circuit board at the beat of the chip's/processor's clock, in some cases, a very long connector can have performance impact. This can happen when a short line in the logical design has to become long in the physical. Another thing that may happen because of the small step sizes is that some circuits need to be included twice: one as primary and one as backup if the primary got ffed up in printing, or later on in operational "life". So the foundry can advise the client that there are issues with the design for physical design and performance reasons. This then means the logical design gets altered. The logical design of Nikon's sensors was always made by Nikon. This is exactly the same way that the ARM processor was developed. In the late 80s already it worked that way. And almost all smartphones have an ARM designed or derived (Apple's latest CPUs) processor. The principle of the ARM design had a very low energy consumption and that made it so popular. So while Intel developed their own chip printers, ARM had their chips printed at a foundry. The price of the printers has run up to the US$ 1 billion and printing chips on those machines is very expensive. Sony Semiconductor is a minor player as a foundry and their sensor chips don't come close to the current smallest step size (the step size is like the DPI on your inkjet printer - there are 25,400,000 nanometres in an inch). Among the smallest step sizes, 3 nm is already smaller than what most foundries offer, only a couple foundries can offer you that, and they may have time for your print job somewhere next year. More common is in the 7 nm ballpark or larger. Your Z 7(ii)/8/9 have a sensor resolution of 230 photosites per mm at 1nm step size there's 4,348 times more resolution in the newest chip printer. Note that photosites in a sensor are measured per area, not per unit of length and that resolution is measured as per unit of length. This has to do with how the human vision (retina/optical nerve/brain) works. We need to go back to the linear resolution when we want to compare sensor resolutions. If you want to double the resolution of a sensor f X*Y=MP you get 2X*2Y=4MP - in a linear way. Or 2x the MP gives you SQRT(2)=~= 1.4 times more resolution, visually, ceteris paribus (everything else the same, assuming lenses that can resolve both and your eyes can see the difference). This also applies to sensor/film frame size. So "MP" are a marketing lie from a photographic point of view, however they are relevant to image processing and processing power needed in there, plus they predict file sizes. In old photography school we defined as "small format" anything that fit on 127 film (with 36mm usable width) so in those terms anything called "Medium Format" today is actually small format. And given the linear resolution/scale dogma, the difference cannot be exciting. The biggest surprise for many - staying with Nikon - is how good the APS-C cameras are, in terms of image quality. This has to do with photosite density and the related photosite size. In a Z 7(ii)/8/9 we have 230 per mm, and in a 24MP FF camera 167. That doesn't explain why a 20MP APS-C is about as sharp per degree of image angle as a 24MP full frame. This is explained by the 24MP camera having a second filter grid layer over the sensor called OLPF, or AA filter. That OLPF is added to make deBayerisation easier to the software that has to do the guessing of colours missing in the raw. The fuzziness caused by the OLPF makes that easier, yes, but it reduces contour sharpness, low light sensitivity, dynamic range (DR), contrast envelope (DR in one shot), and colour space. This is why Nikon started offering a camera without OLPF as of the Nikon D800E that had the OLPF Eliminated. To understand the impact of just removing the OLPF on sharpness, go to the DxO Mark website and find the sharpest F-mount lens. Compare its sharpness on the D800 to the D800E. That difference is just the presence/absence of the OLPF. If you now want to look at my "linear" thing above, compare that lens on the D800 to mounted on the 24MP D610/750, etc. You'll see the difference is disappointing (because of that linearity thing). The same applies to D800E to D850 comparisons with that lens. You now know that people who debate a successor to a 24MP camera and want it to be 30MP are deluded or naive or dumb or all of these. Such MP changes only make sense if they relate better to video formats. The downside of eliminating the OLPF is that raw processing software never got adapted to that new reality. So you get a bit more noise images that have less reference for the AI that does the wild-assed colour guessing. What you call luminance noise or colour noise is bluntly put Bayer noise following from inadequate raw processing. There is no quantum physical magic here and we don;t need entanglement to solve it. Years ago, Topaz moved into this niche with their DeNoise AI app that can help remove the residual Bayer noise. A few years later, DxO followed with an option in their PhotoLab app (PL - competes with Lightroom Classic) that apples their "DeepPRIME" algorithm. I tested that and it's good, but after I mentioned in my feedback to them that I still need Photoshop and hence would not buy PL, they spun DeepPRIME out into a LrC plug-in called PureRAW - very good and an order of magnitude improved, since. Finally in 2023, Adobe added AI Denoise into Camera Raw (ACR - ACR is the Develop tab in LrC and in raw processing for Photoshop runs in its own UI). The "Settings" available in ACR are available to you directly when it runs in its own UI, but in LrC it's LrC that handles the setting/preferences and not every option might be available. You can run ACR stand alone from Bridge and your edits will be saved in an ACR specific sidecar file that LrC ignores. In today's LrC/ACR you have about 1,300 camera-specific "profiles" that dictate how the raw processing is done for your camera when you leave ACR/LrC set to Adobe Standard - the idea is that "they all lookalike": Adobe neutral and a bit flat. Any conclusion you derive from comparing images from different cameras in LrC are not "ceteris paribus". You don;t know what the impact of the profile is in a negative or positive way. We see differences in detail retrieval between different raw processing apps. And that has nothing to do with the "sensor" but all with how the deBayerisation and demosaicking got done. (Which is why DxO Mark developed their own raw processing app that allows them to switch off demosaicking and measure based on that. That's a debatable choice. I would want to measure sharpness in the raw, not after deBayerisation.) As to a camera's recognition-AI-AF working better with faster lenses, that is true. But here is another pitfall: the f/number of a lens is meaningless relative to the light a lens lets through. In classical lens designs the f/number also varies along with the focal length that gets longer when we focus closer by than infinity (my Nikon Z 105mm/2.8S informs about the "aperture breathing" and setting that lens at f/2.8 when at infinity, and next focusing at 1: 1 closest by sees the aperture number change to 4.3 when fully opened and this means the focal length has become 160mm). Cine lenses that suppress focus breathing (by zooming to compensate the focal length change of focusing) also keep the f/number constant that way. It then makes sense to put the light transmission of the f/number on the lens, instead of the f/number (or next to it). That's a big deal. As you were checking DxO Mark, find 1.2L lenses (from another brand than Nikon) and note that their T-value may be 1.5. So these lenses are not as fast as the f/number printed on them. That's the industry standard for a century or more, but if you didn't go through photography school it's a surprise. We needed to calibrate a lot, way back. Compare that 1.2L to 1.4G lenses from Nikon, and you'll see that these are T=1.5 too. So these are equally "fast". Assuming that a lens of f/1.2 is "fast" relies on the "assume" verb that consists of "ass u me".
The higher level DX Z 70, Z 90, Z 500 will be a NUMBER of months in the future! The Z 50 II is the way to go for quite a while. MY Strategy is to get a SECOND Z 8 instead of waiting for a higher level Z DX camera, that way ONCE in awhile You can switch the FX! The Z 500 or whatever it becomes that are being tested by Nikon will be FAIRLY expensive! Why not get a Z 8???? I prefer the Z 8 over every camera I own. My Z 9 wears a Z S 4.5 lens ALL the time.
I'm curious what your thoughts are on the Z 50 II Kit with the 18-140mm VR lens compared to the dual lens kit (16-50mm and 50-250mm). And in what scenario, if any, would you recommend the former instead of the latter? Cheers and keep up the great work.
@@IIISentorIII I'm not a fan of big all in one lenses.they make significant compromises to go from wide angle to tele and I don't ever use them. I love the dual lens kit and primes for the DX Z cameras.
I've been wanting to get that 23/1.2 and a Zfc as a second setup to my Z8. This new Z50ii release has me wondering what are the chances of seeing a refreshed Zfc even though I don't think Nikon has ever made a second version of a digital retro camera.
Agreed. This new body is not the successor to the D500. Omission of IBIS is a big miss indeed. For the price, I think Nikon had no choice but to compromise what they could add into the body. For now, the Zf and the Z6III are the bodies to go for
@@glennn.3464 I'd love it if they did that, but I'm not holding my breath. I also don't think it's a guaranteed smart business move for them. Why? Their focus since the Inception of the Z system has been full frame bodies for the higher end market. DX Zs have solely focused on the lower end of the market. Keeping the price low by not including IBIS and using the existant d500 sensor was a way to bring lower end Nikon DSLR users into the mirrorless world. Many of them have graduated to full frame. Those who haven't are largely budget consttained. Nikon is a smaller company that has to remain nimble and pick and choose the risks it takes. I don't think they feel developing a new high-end crop sensor would pay for itself given a shinking global camera market, the ability of their flagship full frame cameras in crop mode, their high end customers' wholehearted embrace of full frame, and competitor brands like Fuji's growing crop sensor market share. The Z50ii is not designed to be that pro level camera though. It's instead an amazing, entry level, small camera that packs more punch than its market should expect. Maybe a dream high end aps-c Z camera is in the works too, but I would not bet on it.
@@hishamosman4341Why is IBIS important for shooting with a long lens though? They often have VR which works much better than IBIS at those focal lengths anyway.
@@starbase218 it's far less important with a long Nikon lens yep. I do love how my Z9 or Zf add ibis to my 105 1.4 though. And it would be really nice for the 75 1.2 DX viltrox as well as other non VR lenses
I see it as a replacement for my D7500. But I am not in a hurry to get it - so will wait till the D7500 no longer serves its purpose for me. Maybe by then, the Z50 III will be released!
I own a LOT of high end Nikons. For Moon Shots though ALL of my images are with the D 7500 and the Nikon 200-500 lens on Manual. NO OTHER Nikon I own can do Moon shots as well as the D 7500 on manual. The D 7500 was one of the BEST Nikons ever made. See Thom Hogans take on that camera. Just one capture Card? I ONLY use one capture card in ALL of my Z 8, Z 9, Z f cameras!
Mine Ships from B&H ships tomorrow with the two kit lens. I still use the Z 50 with the 50-250 a LOT. Without a sensor shield I RARELY swap lens on the Z 50. I will start using my Z 50 II with the Z 28-400 lens. The Z 50 II will be a Home Run for Nikon!!
Thanks Hudson for another great video. Loved my Z50 sold it about 6 months ago to upgrade to the ZF and I have missed it since that day. I am definitely ordering a Z50MKII. And I can't wait to use it again.
Drop the 6ii from the list. The 6iii has the AF chops you need, but the 6ii might frustrate. Totally depends on whether you prefer Sony or Nikon and consider glass. If you want to keep things more affordable, the glass will be FAR cheaper to cover the Z50II's crop sensor than the A9's full frame. Full frame glass is the expensive part. Not the camera body.
I missed my Z50 dearly after I sold it. I was actually anticipating the Z50ii to come out much sooner but ended up upgrading my Z6ii to the Z8. Now that I also have the Z6iii I feel like I need a break from gear buying and just make some content. I don't think people should be hung up on older sensors. If it works and does the same or better than the competition then I see no reason to upgrade the sensor. 21MP is more than enough for APS. It is actually more pixels than the Z6 on a per square basis. The only thing that would have been nice is IBIS but I know nobody else is doing this at this price point and 4K60 without a crop. Otherwise I plan to pic up this camera when it goes on sale.
A lot of fuss has been emphasized over the picture control on the Z50-II - not sure how it's different from the Z50 other than having a dedicated button to access it instead of the clunky "I" menu. I've been using Film Emulators via PC for the past year on the Z50 and I love it... but it has, realistically, always been there.
Well - I received my Z50II and I think I am going to take it with me in Jan to Costa Rica with the 100-400 and the 24mm. Maybe only those 2 lenses. Since I am not going on a photography specific trip I am seriously thinking this may be the way to go as opposed to taking my “Big” gear and all that weight. I am going to the Nicoya Peninusla to check that area out since my three times to CR have all been to Puerto Jimenez (one time with you Hudson) and were dedicated photography trips - and all were AMAZING! But time to explore a little…. Anyway - what do you think of taking just this limited amount of gear?
Do you think the USB-C port will power the camera while it is on and taking pictures not just charge the battery? I have the Z50 now and have to use a dummy battery to plug it into a power supply. Being able to directly power the camera with the USB-C would be great. Also having a wired shutter release would be nice since the wireless remote seems to disconnect a lot. Thanks for the informative video.
Thanks very much for your thoughts on this new camera and Nikon's APSC system. I appreciated that you talked about lenses that match well with it considering size and price as well as optical excellence. I didn't know about the subject detection manual focus assist feature. I think this could be valuable. I enjoyed the video and the comments from viewers. Cheers.
I think I'll wait for the ZF-C II , I already have a ZF , love it. But a Silver ZF-C with the upadated internals if the Z50 II would be so much fun!! (just hope they bump the build quality a bit)
@@LOLA6ifyable yeah. The Zfc is not built like the Zf sadly. You might wanna give the Zf a try. It's 8 stop IBIS is nuts and it's built like a tank. I adore mine. I kinda doubt there will be a Zfcii. Could be wrong, but I doubt it gets upgraded any time soon.
You say it’s not a D500 successor, and I agree from a product placement perspective. But if it has Expeed 7, even with bird AF, if it has the same resolution as a Z8 in crop mode (which it does), and if it can shoot 11 fps RAW, then when using it with a stabilized tele lens (meaning the lack of IBIS isn’t much of an issue), isn’t it potentially quite suitable for that? The only two things I do wonder about are the max shutter speed of 1/4000, and whether that 11 fps framerate is going to be a slideshow in the EVF.
Make no mistake it's more capable (except durability) than the D500 across the board, but the D500 was the higher resolution DX backup for the 36mp, slower D810. The launch of the D850 obviated the need for a D500. In DX mode a D500 was built in. That's also true of the Z8/Z9, which most use for crop action and wildlife. A true modern Z D500 like release to me would be over 30MP, blazing fast, Built very tough, and have IBIS. It would backup & compliment your Z8 or 9 for long lens work giving more DX resolution. I don't think we'll see it any time soon though.
@@HudsonHenryPhotoTrue, but a Z8 is much more expensive than a Z50 II. I do think that if you go Z, you should have a FF body, but then it becomes a question of a single Z8, or say, a Z5/6 (I or II) plus this Z50 II. The latter being a cheaper combination, and it can be useful to have two bodies. E.g. one set up for wildlife and one for everything else. It’s sort of similar to having a D750 plus a D7500.
EXCELLENT VIDEO. you explain well how to get great photo with a little mirrorless camera. I do have a z50 . Now with your video, I will be able to better use my camera.
I am stoked they ditched the touch sensitive buttons on the screen I am Left eye dominant and would engage the display zoom with my nose way too often. I have a Z6 iii now and I can't say enough how much more responsive the Expeed 7 powered camera is compared to the first gen units. I did testing the other day and going from sleep and pushing the shutter the Z6 iii is as quick to focus and take a picture as my D7500. The DSLR is truly irrelevant now.
Thanks a lot for sharing your view on this new body. I'm looking for a second (or third, actually) small camera to take photos of food and dishes. Have you tried the built-in flash? Do you think this would be a good camera to capture the dishes you're about to eat and the ambiance around you? I'm currently using an old Olympus 3/4 and it may be time to upgrade. The built-in flash is something I'd like to have. Thank you. Best, -Patrick
Hey Patrick. I missed this. good to hear from you! Yes. I think you'd be shocked how much tech they packed into this sucker. It's all about the lens. I love the little 23 1.2 Voiglander and the 24 1.7 Nikon on it. It's fun with the 1.8 S primes too. It's a great little camera with incredible chops for it's price and size. I haven't tried the onboard flash, but I'm sure it's good for a pop of fill with the compensation dialed down a fair bit.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hi Hudson, Thanks for getting back to me. I actually just got a Z50 II kit with the two lenses. First impression? It's good to have a lens that doesn't weigh 3 pounds and doesn't fill half a bag. For my intended purpose, I'm sure the quality will be just fine. The first few photos I took are surprisingly good. Now, I need to learn about all these new features and functions. And I hope to get a chance to try the lenses you mentioned. I look forward to your next ATS with recommendations about the setup and the usage. All the best -Patrick
Same here. No one makes one except Fuji who have an ancient and clunky one. I have the 28mm 2.8 for my Z6 but the combination is quite chunky, albeit the Z50II has gained weight as well, unfortunately.
If I wasn't fortunate enough to tote a Q3, I'd be dreaming of the same... That 24 1.7 is a dreamy little bugger though. It's certainly worth having despite being tighter than you'd like.
I have a Z30, I have think mount a lens like z28mm, Z26mm, Z85mm and Z105Mmm, or I have see the kit les is more versatile, so to up grade think on Z24-70F4. I like very much make portraits for it 85mm think about. could you bring me your feelings?. Saludos 🇲🇽
I worked for decades with film. I worked for decades with DSLRs. Some of my favorite images are from film, D70, D200, D700, D800, D810, D500 and D850. There is nothing wrong with any of those technologies, and of course they. make fabulous images. That said, you'll be sunk if you look through the new EVF's in low light, try out the new AF tracking modes or look at image quality from the new lenses designed for the wider mount and shorter throw. The F4 glass blows away the old F-mount 2.8s. As my eyes age, I thank the world for these incredible EVF cameras.
It's 11fps with the mechanical shutter for RAW files, but it will do the 30FPS full res jpeg capture with up to a second of prerelease capture. Kinda nuts in a sub $1000 camera.
Thanks Hudson, I look forward to a more in depth review when you get your copy. I have a dilemma, of sorts. I bought the Z600TC, but cheaped out and got a used Z6i. Now, I look at this as a potential interim camera to shoot wildlife whilst I put aside some money for a new Z9, or whatever may be introduced in the interim. All things being equal, and I know it isn't in the wild yet, but do you think the decision has legs? Thanks!
@Karkawry1970 no. That's too long at aps-c for most situations without even activating the built in TC, and it's certainly ready for more than 20MP. You should have the Z6iii or Z8 at minimum, but the Z9 is the right body for that. We're still years from any refresh there. The Z9 remains a king in the wildlife/acton realm. It's perfectly balanced on big primes.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I was thinking mainly about the bird eye AF would be beneficial for me, but the crop factor is certainly a big consideration with the 600/840mm. Will plod along with the old Z6 a bit longer, plus I like the sensor and low light capabilities...
I'm using Vitrox lenses on my Nikon bodies these days...a cheaper excellent quality alternative for sure...just picked up a 13mm aps-c in f1.4 for video on a stabilizer....but same lens on a Z6 is beautiful fast wide angle at about 19.5 crop factor...these third party lenses are making it possible to upgrade on a budget...I would prefer an upgrades sensor with ibis for a z70???...great job new Sub...i use Nikon to create on my channel as well as for last 30 years professionally
@@iconicon3108 that's really a video feature where it's not an issue to achieve 4k from a 5.6k sensor. For stills either use the VR nikon lenses (the dx kit lenses as well as the longer S glass all are), or keep the shutter speed up by the old fashioned rules. Not an issue for that little 23mm 1.2 Voigtländer (1/30), but more an issue with the Viltrox 75 1.2 (1/100).
I think this would be a nice camera paired with the 105mm macro. 21 megapixels is fine for macro and you'd have 157mm equivalent macro lens. Too bad it doesn't have sensor stabilization. That's the one thing missing that would round out this camera.
I’m happy with everything accept wish it had a larger battery. I’d love to see that 20mp sensor in that z6iii body with this sensor. I also like those viltrox lenses for z
@@sdhute the PD power delivery port really mitigates that. Just plug in a battery brick like this at lunch or been shoots in the pack. amzn.to/40TYAxj It's always topped off. 3 full batteries for $27. :) I can't remember the last time I swapped batteries in a PD capable body.
@@Alsayid I'd first urge you to shoot RAW. Second reiterate you should shoot RAW, then third suggest you use the system you know best. They both make great cameras with different strengths and weaknesses.
The Z9 AF system and EXPEED7 might surprise some industry reporters, but I find the biggest surprise - above and beyond all - is Nikon's decision to radically expand the Custom menus of the Z50 II. Handoff AF setups are now easy. What Nikon's now selling in the Z50 II were previously only available in Pro ILCs. Yes the Zf, then Z6 III were first in line for this capability, but these are mid tier FX cameras. Previously Nikon's been extremely conservative in this department. Remember, their failure with firmware to add AFmode+AFOn options into the Z6 and Z7 persistently crippled these capable cameras for action photography. Something(s) upset the applecart, either new minds and/or actions on market research data. Another possible influence has been the huge sales of the Z9 and Z8 with exhaustive discussions about Custom settings, particularly optimizing the AF modes using the Custom controls.
100% They are in effect cannabilzing themselves with bringing pro capabilities to lower models. I'm a bit blown away. I did not think the Z8 would get AutoCapture, but... then the truck started rolling. Z6iii and Z50ii are both surprising in that regard.
@@speedbumpmedia9584 I can't speak to that yet, but the PD charging negates any concern for me. Plug it into a $30 Anker PD brick in the bag when not shooting and the battery will last forever.
@@tedr5182 @glennn.3464 hmmm I owned both he D300S and the D500. I'll take that D500/Z50 sensor every time for the increased dynamic range and high iso performance. They're dramatically better. You can use super resultion to a much larger degree with that later generation sensor to more than negate the 3MP resolution difference. I'd love it if they did a DX sensor high end body with 30+MP like Fujis new bodies, but I'm not holding my breath. I also don't think it's a guaranteed smart business move for them. Why? Their focus since the Inception of the Z system has been full frame bodies for the higher end market. DX Zs have solely focused on the lower end of the market. Keeping the price low by not including IBIS and using the existant d500 sensor was a way to bring lower end Nikon DSLR users into the mirrorless world. Many of them have graduated to full frame. Those who haven't are largely budget consttained. Nikon is a smaller company that has to remain nimble and pick and choose the risks it takes. I don't think they feel developing a new high-end crop sensor would pay for itself given a shinking global camera market, the ability of their flagship full frame cameras in crop mode, their high end customers' wholehearted embrace of full frame, and competitor brands like Fuji's growing crop sensor market share. The Z50ii is not designed to be that pro level camera though. It's instead an amazing, entry level, small camera that packs more punch than its market should expect. Maybe a dream high end aps-c Z camera is in the works too, but I would not bet on it.
I'm getting more and more confused by Nikon. We've been shooting 8 years with a D5600 mostly fitted with Tamron 17-50 2.8 for art, architecture, food and the occasional bird. I just don't know what to upgrade to anymore 😢
The Z50II will put a huge smile on your face. You can use an FTZ adapter if you want to keep using the 17-50. Be sure to also grab the 16-50 DX kit lens with it. I think you'll be astounded by the increased image quality from it, despite the smaller variable aperture.
Great informative video, as always. I particularly appreciated the "skunk works" reference! I wonder how many viewers recognize that reference. It is one of my favorite historical success stories.
@@JoeSteel1 it's certainly not a pro level indoor sports lens, but then I don't know of any 75-375 equivalent lenses that are. 🤣 To get fast long glass you've got to pay a lot of money. The 70-200 2.8 S is the best game in town for indoor sports, but it will cost you 2.5 times the Z50IIs price. The Z 70-180 2.8 isn't as good, but it's a fraction of the cost of the superior S lens.
@@WatchmanNiel well you do get the BIF subject mode here in 3D, auto and wide area on the Z50ii, and Good VR with long S lenses or the DX VR 50-250. No mechanical shutter body (not even the 6iii) gets the sensor guard though. That's where they put it in the Z8/9. That requires a very expensive, fully stacked shutter less new APS-C sensor to be designed and made. It would be neat, but it's very unlikely. It takes a second to blow off the sensor every week though to keep it clean. Not an issue for me at all. I still have to wet clean my Z9 too now and then anyway.
@ I appreciate that and I am really upbeat about Nikon’s trajectory, but I just do not see myself upgrading to this in favour of my D500 and 500mm PF lens and I am pretty sure there are others who feel this way. This just does not seem like the dream Z series D500 replacement. Btw, thanks for all your great Voigtlander insights, I am loving the 50mm f/1 on the ZF!
@@WatchmanNiel 👍 I think the z8 is very much your D500 replacement. I adored that combo too and kept it till the Z9 launch. I only sold the 500PF when the new S PF lenses launched. It was great on the ftz. You'd be blown away by the Z8, and its sensor in DX crop is better than the D500s and the same resolution essentially. Not to mention the tracking, pre release capture, auto capture, low light EVF performance, etc, etc... That's what nikon considers the D500+850 replacement all in one body, and many folks like you have made the move already.
Plenty to like on the Z50 II ; however Nikon again missing boat in not doing / done a Z70 (rival A6700, R7, Fuji Equiv) with Z9 tech, expeed 7, IBIS, Z6 Body shell, maybe higher res MP and derive that tech - Maybe using the Z50 sensor into the Z50 MK 2 -> then backflush down to ZFC & Z30 MK 2's.
you have to consider the cost of new sensor development in the grand scheme. They've only done 2 since the Z system launched in 2018. The z9/8 and the z6iii. The Z7s use the d850's Sony fabbed sensor, all the apsc varients use the D500's Sony fabbed sensor and the Z6(ii) and Zf use a crazy good, but old Sony fabbed 24mp sensor. Developing a new sensor is a huge endeavor. I'd love a DX sensor like fuji has recently developed, but I doubt Nikon thinks their DX market will support the R&D costs. Canon is a much larger overall company with more financial headroom to experiement in various markets. Fuji's primary focus is APS-C. Nikon is clearly focused on the higher end full frame market primarily and working to keep costs low on the Aps-c front to bring budget, DX DSLR shooters into the mirrorless age. Many of us would love a bad ass new pro grade Aps-c body, but 'how many of us' is the question... It would have to be a new sensor to attract higher end users as the Z8/9 in DX mode outperforms the Z50's sensor. I would not hold my breath. Nikon has been doing a great job navigating a shrinking consumer market, but they have to step cautiously.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks, any good insights on when these Z50 MK 2 will be landing on UK. US, Rest of World shores ? - is it still around 21st of November 2024 ?
Again my pet hates on Z APS ML - no IBIS, sensor cleaning and again where are the Z APS ML lenses Nikon - so have done an APS ML Lens release at same time, maybe a PZ of 18-70 F4 - F5.6, 18-105/104 F4.5 - F5.6 or do a rebadge / remount of the excellent F mount 16-80 AFS F2.8 - F4 lens in Z.
Nikon's larger focus is clearly full frame, high end users. The Z APS-C line is targeting retaining folks still shooting a Costco purchased D3500 or the like. That and and young, hip vloggers. Despite that, I adore the Z50 for the reasons stated in this video and we've got a ton of lens development outside Nikon. The Viltrox 75 is a very special lens as is the 23mm Voigtlander. The Nikon 24 1.7 is really a shockingly good lens and the dual kit is way better than it has any right to be. For me that's actually plenty for this little system.
sorry i love Nikon i used Nikon many years but i really dont understand what is so good about this camera ? A sensor that is not just old buut VERY old no IBIS low mega pixel sensor ( yeah i know less pix better ISO performance but i wonder if that is the case when you compare it to a 8 year newer sensor) price also not cheap auto focus far behind cameras like Sony A6700. I dont know man i feel Nikon dont care any more specially in DX cameras no really new innovation I use a D500 nothing justify me to change to this camera or any other Nikon DX which are by the way all the same camera with a different jacket Nikon you ever where a marked leading camera company what happend to you I`m still waiting but not for to long i wont
@@willidevegt8831you're looking at it from the wrong perspective. This is an entry level powerhouse, not a D500 replacement. That's the Z8 clearly. Nikon's dedicated tier advanced lines to full frame for many years now. Sony is not so different though. I think you should use a 6700 and then the original z50... You'll see why I prefer the Z50 EVF, design and controls by far. Sorry but the AF is not more advanced in the 6700 than Expeed 7. That's just inaccurate. Rent a z50ii and see. If apsc is your world and you want more than the Z50ii after trying it, then to be honest... I think you should look to Fuji. It'll take time to adjust to the interface, but they're killing it. ;) nobody else competes in that world. They own it for good reason beyond entry level. You really shouldn't wait for Nikon. They're dedicated to full frame. The Z8 is clearly the camera they expect you to adopt. It outshines your D500 in every aspect even cropped to DX. Yes it's more expensive, but not much more than the original D500 price corrected for inflation. $2000 (2016) = $2736 (2024). The z8 is $3150 and you also get 46mp full frame and much, much more.
you have to consider the cost of new sensor development in the grand scheme. They've only done 2 since the Z system launched in 2018. The z9/8 and the z6iii. The Z7s use the d850's Sony fabbed sensor, all the apsc varients use the D500's Sony fabbed sensor and the Z6(ii) and Zf use a crazy good, but old Sony fabbed 24mp sensor. Developing a new sensor is a huge endeavor. I'd love a DX sensor like fuji has recently developed, but I doubt Nikon thinks their DX market will support the R&D costs. They're clearly focused on the higher end full frame market primarily and working to keep costs low on the Aps-c front. Many of us would love a bad ass new Aps-c body, but 'how many of us' is the question... It would have to be a new sensor to attract higher end users as the Z8/9 in DX mode outperforms the Z50's sensor. I would not hold my breath.
How many of us ? Sells Nikon D500 it’s answer for that , but it’s nice you are among us. Yes I know everything above 20 Mpx in dx system needs new sensors . But is real in Sony/Canon/ Fuji 32.5 MP cmos sensor in 2022 inside camera ready to work. Technology is here question is how many z8/z9 needs to be sold ..... I think if Nikon announce 26.5-32.5 MP Dx Camera I’m second in the line right behind you 😂 So far I skip Z50 ll .
@slawomirg3292 I think if it's $1200 maybe enough of us. If it's more, it likely loses money today. IBIS, z6iii like form factor, and 30+ MP new sensor...? That's going to be EXPENSIVE. The D500 made a lot of sense in the D810 days, but less in the D850 days. Vast hoardes of us carried the D810/500 wonder combo. Lots of used 500s hit the market when the 850 arrived. I think Nikon's big R&D money is directly aimed at a loyal full frame crowd. If new sensors are coming, they're likely targeted there with DX crops to 30+ MP. Given Nikon's size and current position, they're pretty wise to keep the focus where they are. The DX is likely to stay an entry level line. Fuji is dedicated to Aps-c by comparison.
What’s is 1200$ price ? In 2022 canon R7 was 1500$ today 1300$ There is room for up to 2k$ for pro DX Nikon Camera Let me ask how much you would pay for 33mp pro dx format? Statement Dx is for entry level photography is wrong, look at yr big prime telephoto lans with high MP dx Camera . 80063 and 33 mp dx sweet combo . Or 30028 ups ...
@@slawomirg3292 again, I am someone who would pay much more. I have NEVER stated DX is entry level, but I doubt there are enough high end DX buyers in the Nikon stable now to pencil out that kind of a design cost these days. Nikon's clear focus and primary market has long been FX. Since the 850 launch there has been no new DX sensor. It's all based on the d500. I doubt they believe it's worth the risk to develop high end DX sensors now. They are not the huge company that Canon is with resources to try that gamble. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
it more looks like a product nikon should have announced 2 years ago, can’t imagine nikon will use this camera to compete with Sony and Fuji in next five years, this product has nothing appealing. especially funny when nikon upgraded its video performance but no IBIS, can’t imagine you take a video with dx mode 1.5 cut plus 4k60p 1.5x cut plus electric stabilisation cut. It looks like Nikon doesn’t care much about its dx product line
You're 100% entitled to your opinion, but the Z50II is an awesome entry-level camera that outclasses everything else in it's price range. Period full stop.
My Z 50 II with the two lens kit is here! This is the REAL DEAL!
Picked up the Nikon Z50 as my first camera to try to learn photography with it, and absolutely found a new forever hobby. So comfortable to hold, such incredibly vibrant images (the bokeh is amazing), and that 50-250mm lens is so versatile. The Nikon Z50 II releases in Canada today, and I can't wait to pick it up!
My situation is exactly the same. I love my little Z50
Yes I loved my Z50 MK 1, sold it off recently with some old gear (F) and pre-ordered the Z50 MK 2 - for the improvements from Z6 III - Z9 derived AF and tech (expeed 7)
It’s hilarious to see people unhappy with the Z50 II, saying, "We need this, we need that." Lol, you absolutely don’t. Just don’t buy this camera. Get a Z8, shoot in DX mode and stop whining.
@@notjacknicholson2225 right? This is not designed or merketed to be that camera. It's absolutely wonderful however for its target audience.
I don't think ibis is a big ask
Ibis is for ppl with Parkinson's disease @@wewlad107
@@wewlad107 If you need IBIS, there are plenty bodies offering it. This camera is geared towards a specific market. If it doesn’t answer your needs, I am sure there’s something out there you can buy instead.
It’s £850 pre order for the body only. That’s just so cheap for what it does.
I still love my original Z50. It is a great take anywhere and travel camera. I recently bought the Viltrox 20mm lens; this is an AF lens that costs only 189 Euro and delivers great image quality. The 20mm becomes a 30mm equivalent on the Z50. I find that a great focal length as a general walk around lens. Highly recommended!
I just picked up a Nikon Z30 with both kit lenses for $549 during Nikon’s refurbished days. Something about smaller underdog cameras that attract me. So far both lenses are pretty darn good. Miss a view screen, but maybe I’ll try full frame later.
I have owned a Z50 for a while now and when I first read about the Z50II I decided that I would keep my Z50 for the time being hoping that another crop sensor model would be announced sometime in future that has a higher resolution sensor. IBIS is not a requirement for me but no doubt it would be nice to have. However, after watching a number of videos about the Z50II including this morning's Gray's of Westminster live stream where they had a Z50II on hand, my resolve to wait is weakening. I still want that higher resolution DX sensor camera but expect it will be at least two years before there are even credible rumors that it is being developed. Would love to be wrong and an announcement is just around the corner, but I doubt it.
I also own the Viltrox 75mm F1.2 lens but have only used it once with so-so results (my fault no doubt). I agree 100%, the kit lenses deliver wonderful results, but just a couple days before the Z50II official announcement I bought the 24mm F1.7 DX and 28mm F2.8 FX lenses.
The Z50 is my preferred camera when hiking and climbing. The battery life just kills me, I take noticbly fewer portrait orientation photos, and I do wish a Z 16-80mm f2.8-4 DX existed, but it's such a tight kit. The II fixes basically everything (except my dream lens) that I wanted fixed with the Z50. If only I could get a reasonable trade in value for the Z50, scratching the screen with my crampons certainly didn't help on that front lol.
My absolute dream was for the Z50ii to have a slightly larger EVF, a SD+Micro SD dual card slot like the Zf, and hookups for a grip.
Z50 user here since it came out and I love it. I've preordered the new model, but I will be incredibly upset if they release a higher end Z70(?) in the next month or two.
Agree but Nikon should have done the Z70 already / prior to Z50 MK 2 in a Z6 body with IBIS - maybe higher res MP 24-32mp and then derive the Z70 tech down to Z50 II ( maybe with no IBIS and 20mp sensor) -> then derive the tech down to MK 2 of ZFC and Z30; Nikon really baffles me sometimes and amazing how they remain competitive with some of their howl up's they have done (eg D400)
@@clancydubh you have to consider the cost of new sensor development in the grand scheme. They've only done 2 since the Z system launched in 2018. The z9/8 and the z6iii. The Z7s use the d850s Sony sensor, all the apsc varients use the D500s Sony sensor and the Z6(ii) and Zf use a crazy good, but old Sony 24mp sensor. Developing a new sensor is a huge endeavor. I'd love a DX sensor like fuji has recently developed too, but I doubt Nikon thinks their market will support the R&D costs.
They're clearly focused on the higher end full frame market primarily and working to keep costs low on the Aps-c front. Many of us would love a bad ass new Aps-c body, but 'how many of us' is the question... It would have to be a new sensor as the Z8/9 in DX mode outperforms the Z50's sensor. I would not hold my breath.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto - don't call a sensor in a Nikon a "Sony" sensor. The reason it is labelled Sony is because it got printed by Sony Semiconductor.
That operating company of Sony's is a "fab" or "foundry" - a "chip printing company". Nikon using Sony as "foundry"started in the time when Nikon developed and produced the "chip printers" (which Canon did as well). Around 2000, a startup got formed in Europe that started to develop and make such printers too when Nikon and Canon had problems to keep up tempo with Moore's Law and reducing the "step size" - the last generation is a 1 nanometre.
The way this industry works is in that you as client of the foundry create the logical chip design (which you do in special CAD software). The design looks like the logical design of the printed circuit board drawing with your Japanese tuner or amplifier, decades ago. So that's not a physical design. The CAD program can virtually run the circuit to test it. When that phase is done, the design is sent to the foundry that converts it into a "physical design" and again will run tests to verify that logical assumptions can be expected to be realised in the printed chips later on. Because of how the printer e.g. can route connections, and a "bit" is like a collection of charges that walks through the circuit board at the beat of the chip's/processor's clock, in some cases, a very long connector can have performance impact. This can happen when a short line in the logical design has to become long in the physical. Another thing that may happen because of the small step sizes is that some circuits need to be included twice: one as primary and one as backup if the primary got ffed up in printing, or later on in operational "life".
So the foundry can advise the client that there are issues with the design for physical design and performance reasons. This then means the logical design gets altered.
The logical design of Nikon's sensors was always made by Nikon.
This is exactly the same way that the ARM processor was developed.
In the late 80s already it worked that way. And almost all smartphones have an ARM designed or derived (Apple's latest CPUs) processor.
The principle of the ARM design had a very low energy consumption and that made it so popular. So while Intel developed their own chip printers, ARM had their chips printed at a foundry.
The price of the printers has run up to the US$ 1 billion and printing chips on those machines is very expensive. Sony Semiconductor is a minor player as a foundry and their sensor chips don't come close to the current smallest step size (the step size is like the DPI on your inkjet printer - there are 25,400,000 nanometres in an inch). Among the smallest step sizes, 3 nm is already smaller than what most foundries offer, only a couple foundries can offer you that, and they may have time for your print job somewhere next year. More common is in the 7 nm ballpark or larger.
Your Z 7(ii)/8/9 have a sensor resolution of 230 photosites per mm at 1nm step size there's 4,348 times more resolution in the newest chip printer.
Note that photosites in a sensor are measured per area, not per unit of length and that resolution is measured as per unit of length.
This has to do with how the human vision (retina/optical nerve/brain) works. We need to go back to the linear resolution when we want to compare sensor resolutions. If you want to double the resolution of a sensor f X*Y=MP you get 2X*2Y=4MP - in a linear way. Or 2x the MP gives you SQRT(2)=~= 1.4 times more resolution, visually, ceteris paribus (everything else the same, assuming lenses that can resolve both and your eyes can see the difference).
This also applies to sensor/film frame size.
So "MP" are a marketing lie from a photographic point of view, however they are relevant to image processing and processing power needed in there, plus they predict file sizes.
In old photography school we defined as "small format" anything that fit on 127 film (with 36mm usable width) so in those terms anything called "Medium Format" today is actually small format. And given the linear resolution/scale dogma, the difference cannot be exciting.
The biggest surprise for many - staying with Nikon - is how good the APS-C cameras are, in terms of image quality. This has to do with photosite density and the related photosite size. In a Z 7(ii)/8/9 we have 230 per mm, and in a 24MP FF camera 167. That doesn't explain why a 20MP APS-C is about as sharp per degree of image angle as a 24MP full frame.
This is explained by the 24MP camera having a second filter grid layer over the sensor called OLPF, or AA filter. That OLPF is added to make deBayerisation easier to the software that has to do the guessing of colours missing in the raw. The fuzziness caused by the OLPF makes that easier, yes, but it reduces contour sharpness, low light sensitivity, dynamic range (DR), contrast envelope (DR in one shot), and colour space.
This is why Nikon started offering a camera without OLPF as of the Nikon D800E that had the OLPF Eliminated.
To understand the impact of just removing the OLPF on sharpness, go to the DxO Mark website and find the sharpest F-mount lens. Compare its sharpness on the D800 to the D800E. That difference is just the presence/absence of the OLPF. If you now want to look at my "linear" thing above, compare that lens on the D800 to mounted on the 24MP D610/750, etc. You'll see the difference is disappointing (because of that linearity thing).
The same applies to D800E to D850 comparisons with that lens. You now know that people who debate a successor to a 24MP camera and want it to be 30MP are deluded or naive or dumb or all of these. Such MP changes only make sense if they relate better to video formats.
The downside of eliminating the OLPF is that raw processing software never got adapted to that new reality. So you get a bit more noise images that have less reference for the AI that does the wild-assed colour guessing. What you call luminance noise or colour noise is bluntly put Bayer noise following from inadequate raw processing. There is no quantum physical magic here and we don;t need entanglement to solve it. Years ago, Topaz moved into this niche with their DeNoise AI app that can help remove the residual Bayer noise. A few years later, DxO followed with an option in their PhotoLab app (PL - competes with Lightroom Classic) that apples their "DeepPRIME" algorithm. I tested that and it's good, but after I mentioned in my feedback to them that I still need Photoshop and hence would not buy PL, they spun DeepPRIME out into a LrC plug-in called PureRAW - very good and an order of magnitude improved, since. Finally in 2023, Adobe added AI Denoise into Camera Raw (ACR - ACR is the Develop tab in LrC and in raw processing for Photoshop runs in its own UI). The "Settings" available in ACR are available to you directly when it runs in its own UI, but in LrC it's LrC that handles the setting/preferences and not every option might be available. You can run ACR stand alone from Bridge and your edits will be saved in an ACR specific sidecar file that LrC ignores.
In today's LrC/ACR you have about 1,300 camera-specific "profiles" that dictate how the raw processing is done for your camera when you leave ACR/LrC set to Adobe Standard - the idea is that "they all lookalike": Adobe neutral and a bit flat. Any conclusion you derive from comparing images from different cameras in LrC are not "ceteris paribus". You don;t know what the impact of the profile is in a negative or positive way. We see differences in detail retrieval between different raw processing apps. And that has nothing to do with the "sensor" but all with how the deBayerisation and demosaicking got done. (Which is why DxO Mark developed their own raw processing app that allows them to switch off demosaicking and measure based on that. That's a debatable choice. I would want to measure sharpness in the raw, not after deBayerisation.)
As to a camera's recognition-AI-AF working better with faster lenses, that is true. But here is another pitfall: the f/number of a lens is meaningless relative to the light a lens lets through. In classical lens designs the f/number also varies along with the focal length that gets longer when we focus closer by than infinity (my Nikon Z 105mm/2.8S informs about the "aperture breathing" and setting that lens at f/2.8 when at infinity, and next focusing at 1: 1 closest by sees the aperture number change to 4.3 when fully opened and this means the focal length has become 160mm).
Cine lenses that suppress focus breathing (by zooming to compensate the focal length change of focusing) also keep the f/number constant that way. It then makes sense to put the light transmission of the f/number on the lens, instead of the f/number (or next to it).
That's a big deal. As you were checking DxO Mark, find 1.2L lenses (from another brand than Nikon) and note that their T-value may be 1.5. So these lenses are not as fast as the f/number printed on them. That's the industry standard for a century or more, but if you didn't go through photography school it's a surprise. We needed to calibrate a lot, way back. Compare that 1.2L to 1.4G lenses from Nikon, and you'll see that these are T=1.5 too. So these are equally "fast". Assuming that a lens of f/1.2 is "fast" relies on the "assume" verb that consists of "ass u me".
The higher level DX Z 70, Z 90, Z 500 will be a NUMBER of months in the future! The Z 50 II is the way to go for quite a while. MY Strategy is to get a SECOND Z 8 instead of waiting for a higher level Z DX camera, that way ONCE in awhile You can switch the FX! The Z 500 or whatever it becomes that are being tested by Nikon will be FAIRLY expensive! Why not get a Z 8???? I prefer the Z 8 over every camera I own. My Z 9 wears a Z S 4.5 lens ALL the time.
@davidjohnson4451 cost ,weight,reach people are just happy with a smaller set up as per comments
ORDERED ! Thanks, HH !
I'm curious what your thoughts are on the Z 50 II Kit with the 18-140mm VR lens compared to the dual lens kit (16-50mm and 50-250mm). And in what scenario, if any, would you recommend the former instead of the latter?
Cheers and keep up the great work.
@@IIISentorIII I'm not a fan of big all in one lenses.they make significant compromises to go from wide angle to tele and I don't ever use them. I love the dual lens kit and primes for the DX Z cameras.
Appreciate it, thanks.
I've been wanting to get that 23/1.2 and a Zfc as a second setup to my Z8. This new Z50ii release has me wondering what are the chances of seeing a refreshed Zfc even though I don't think Nikon has ever made a second version of a digital retro camera.
tiny. The 50ii is a FAR more capable beast.
We still need Nikon to release a crop sensor model above this one to finally have IBIS, higher MPs, faster readout, and more pro-level features.
Agreed. This new body is not the successor to the D500. Omission of IBIS is a big miss indeed. For the price, I think Nikon had no choice but to compromise what they could add into the body. For now, the Zf and the Z6III are the bodies to go for
@@glennn.3464 I'd love it if they did that, but I'm not holding my breath. I also don't think it's a guaranteed smart business move for them. Why? Their focus since the Inception of the Z system has been full frame bodies for the higher end market. DX Zs have solely focused on the lower end of the market. Keeping the price low by not including IBIS and using the existant d500 sensor was a way to bring lower end Nikon DSLR users into the mirrorless world. Many of them have graduated to full frame. Those who haven't are largely budget consttained.
Nikon is a smaller company that has to remain nimble and pick and choose the risks it takes. I don't think they feel developing a new high-end crop sensor would pay for itself given a shinking global camera market, the ability of their flagship full frame cameras in crop mode, their high end customers' wholehearted embrace of full frame, and competitor brands like Fuji's growing crop sensor market share.
The Z50ii is not designed to be that pro level camera though. It's instead an amazing, entry level, small camera that packs more punch than its market should expect. Maybe a dream high end aps-c Z camera is in the works too, but I would not bet on it.
@@hishamosman4341Why is IBIS important for shooting with a long lens though? They often have VR which works much better than IBIS at those focal lengths anyway.
@@starbase218 it's far less important with a long Nikon lens yep. I do love how my Z9 or Zf add ibis to my 105 1.4 though. And it would be really nice for the 75 1.2 DX viltrox as well as other non VR lenses
@hishamosman4341 d500 didnt have ibis either.
Yeah, it's a pretty capable camera! Tested it for a couple of days, like it!
I see it as a replacement for my D7500. But I am not in a hurry to get it - so will wait till the D7500 no longer serves its purpose for me. Maybe by then, the Z50 III will be released!
I own a LOT of high end Nikons. For Moon Shots though ALL of my images are with the D 7500 and the Nikon 200-500 lens on Manual. NO OTHER Nikon I own can do Moon shots as well as the D 7500 on manual. The D 7500 was one of the BEST Nikons ever made. See Thom Hogans take on that camera. Just one capture Card? I ONLY use one capture card in ALL of my Z 8, Z 9, Z f cameras!
Watching your video on the Z50ii it occurred to me that this is the camera I "needed"; not the Z6III or ZF. For the use case gap in my kit.
Mine Ships from B&H ships tomorrow with the two kit lens. I still use the Z 50 with the 50-250 a LOT. Without a sensor shield I RARELY swap lens on the Z 50. I will start using my Z 50 II with the Z 28-400 lens. The Z 50 II will be a Home Run for Nikon!!
Thanks Hudson for another great video. Loved my Z50 sold it about 6 months ago to upgrade to the ZF and I have missed it since that day.
I am definitely ordering a Z50MKII. And I can't wait to use it again.
Im looking between the Z50ii, Z6ii, or A9 Mark 1. What would be a good choice for sports?
Drop the 6ii from the list. The 6iii has the AF chops you need, but the 6ii might frustrate. Totally depends on whether you prefer Sony or Nikon and consider glass. If you want to keep things more affordable, the glass will be FAR cheaper to cover the Z50II's crop sensor than the A9's full frame. Full frame glass is the expensive part. Not the camera body.
I missed my Z50 dearly after I sold it. I was actually anticipating the Z50ii to come out much sooner but ended up upgrading my Z6ii to the Z8. Now that I also have the Z6iii I feel like I need a break from gear buying and just make some content.
I don't think people should be hung up on older sensors. If it works and does the same or better than the competition then I see no reason to upgrade the sensor. 21MP is more than enough for APS. It is actually more pixels than the Z6 on a per square basis. The only thing that would have been nice is IBIS but I know nobody else is doing this at this price point and 4K60 without a crop. Otherwise I plan to pic up this camera when it goes on sale.
A lot of fuss has been emphasized over the picture control on the Z50-II - not sure how it's different from the Z50 other than having a dedicated button to access it instead of the clunky "I" menu. I've been using Film Emulators via PC for the past year on the Z50 and I love it... but it has, realistically, always been there.
@@Vromiaris778 it's simply adding a physical control. I love the B&W switch on the ZF which is similar.
Well - I received my Z50II and I think I am going to take it with me in Jan to Costa Rica with the 100-400 and the 24mm. Maybe only those 2 lenses. Since I am not going on a photography specific trip I am seriously thinking this may be the way to go as opposed to taking my “Big” gear and all that weight. I am going to the Nicoya Peninusla to check that area out since my three times to CR have all been to Puerto Jimenez (one time with you Hudson) and were dedicated photography trips - and all were AMAZING! But time to explore a little…. Anyway - what do you think of taking just this limited amount of gear?
I think you'll have a blast with that! Although the 20 1.8 might be better than the 24.
Do you think the USB-C port will power the camera while it is on and taking pictures not just charge the battery? I have the Z50 now and have to use a dummy battery to plug it into a power supply. Being able to directly power the camera with the USB-C would be great. Also having a wired shutter release would be nice since the wireless remote seems to disconnect a lot. Thanks for the informative video.
100% of course. All the PD capable cameras run off USB-C now. ;-) I can shoot milky way all night with my Anker PD battery bank linked in this video.
@HudsonHenryPhoto Nice to know. Thank you.
Thanks very much for your thoughts on this new camera and Nikon's APSC system. I appreciated that you talked about lenses that match well with it considering size and price as well as optical excellence.
I didn't know about the subject detection manual focus assist feature. I think this could be valuable.
I enjoyed the video and the comments from viewers.
Cheers.
I took my Z50 on a trip recently and loved it. It felt liberating leaving my Z8 at home. With the new AI built in LR you don’t need a Z8.
I think I'll wait for the ZF-C II , I already have a ZF , love it.
But a Silver ZF-C with the upadated internals if the Z50 II would be so much fun!! (just hope they bump the build quality a bit)
@@LOLA6ifyable yeah. The Zfc is not built like the Zf sadly. You might wanna give the Zf a try. It's 8 stop IBIS is nuts and it's built like a tank. I adore mine. I kinda doubt there will be a Zfcii. Could be wrong, but I doubt it gets upgraded any time soon.
You say it’s not a D500 successor, and I agree from a product placement perspective. But if it has Expeed 7, even with bird AF, if it has the same resolution as a Z8 in crop mode (which it does), and if it can shoot 11 fps RAW, then when using it with a stabilized tele lens (meaning the lack of IBIS isn’t much of an issue), isn’t it potentially quite suitable for that?
The only two things I do wonder about are the max shutter speed of 1/4000, and whether that 11 fps framerate is going to be a slideshow in the EVF.
Make no mistake it's more capable (except durability) than the D500 across the board, but the D500 was the higher resolution DX backup for the 36mp, slower D810. The launch of the D850 obviated the need for a D500. In DX mode a D500 was built in. That's also true of the Z8/Z9, which most use for crop action and wildlife. A true modern Z D500 like release to me would be over 30MP, blazing fast, Built very tough, and have IBIS. It would backup & compliment your Z8 or 9 for long lens work giving more DX resolution. I don't think we'll see it any time soon though.
@@HudsonHenryPhotoTrue, but a Z8 is much more expensive than a Z50 II. I do think that if you go Z, you should have a FF body, but then it becomes a question of a single Z8, or say, a Z5/6 (I or II) plus this Z50 II. The latter being a cheaper combination, and it can be useful to have two bodies. E.g. one set up for wildlife and one for everything else.
It’s sort of similar to having a D750 plus a D7500.
EXCELLENT VIDEO. you explain well how to get great photo with a little mirrorless camera. I do have a z50 . Now with your video, I will be able to better use my camera.
I am stoked they ditched the touch sensitive buttons on the screen I am Left eye dominant and would engage the display zoom with my nose way too often. I have a Z6 iii now and I can't say enough how much more responsive the Expeed 7 powered camera is compared to the first gen units. I did testing the other day and going from sleep and pushing the shutter the Z6 iii is as quick to focus and take a picture as my D7500. The DSLR is truly irrelevant now.
Thanks a lot for sharing your view on this new body. I'm looking for a second (or third, actually) small camera to take photos of food and dishes.
Have you tried the built-in flash?
Do you think this would be a good camera to capture the dishes you're about to eat and the ambiance around you?
I'm currently using an old Olympus 3/4 and it may be time to upgrade. The built-in flash is something I'd like to have.
Thank you. Best, -Patrick
Hey Patrick. I missed this. good to hear from you! Yes. I think you'd be shocked how much tech they packed into this sucker. It's all about the lens. I love the little 23 1.2 Voiglander and the 24 1.7 Nikon on it. It's fun with the 1.8 S primes too. It's a great little camera with incredible chops for it's price and size. I haven't tried the onboard flash, but I'm sure it's good for a pop of fill with the compensation dialed down a fair bit.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Hi Hudson,
Thanks for getting back to me. I actually just got a Z50 II kit with the two lenses. First impression? It's good to have a lens that doesn't weigh 3 pounds and doesn't fill half a bag. For my intended purpose, I'm sure the quality will be just fine. The first few photos I took are surprisingly good. Now, I need to learn about all these new features and functions. And I hope to get a chance to try the lenses you mentioned. I look forward to your next ATS with recommendations about the setup and the usage.
All the best -Patrick
I really hope that Nikon or Voigtlander can come up with a small fast 18mm… 28mm equivalent is my preference instead of 35mm.
Same here. No one makes one except Fuji who have an ancient and clunky one.
I have the 28mm 2.8 for my Z6 but the combination is quite chunky, albeit the Z50II has gained weight as well, unfortunately.
If I wasn't fortunate enough to tote a Q3, I'd be dreaming of the same... That 24 1.7 is a dreamy little bugger though. It's certainly worth having despite being tighter than you'd like.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto well, I have a z7ii and the 26mm… it would just be nice in the smaller lighter format (I also have a z30)!
I enjoy my Zfc but pine for a Rx camera with no EVF lag. Any info about the lady in the Z50ii?
@@garyswergold4096 it should not have noticeable lag at all if any. No expeed 7 camera does.
I have a Z30, I have think mount a lens like z28mm, Z26mm, Z85mm and Z105Mmm, or I have see the kit les is more versatile, so to up grade think on Z24-70F4. I like very much make portraits for it 85mm think about. could you bring me your feelings?. Saludos 🇲🇽
THis is my firm reccomendation for a portrait lens for the DX Z system. You'll be blown totally away. bhpho.to/3Z29EXA
I have D700 & D810 . Love them ! Paid $ 5.000 for it . Don’t need anything fancy .
I worked for decades with film. I worked for decades with DSLRs. Some of my favorite images are from film, D70, D200, D700, D800, D810, D500 and D850. There is nothing wrong with any of those technologies, and of course they. make fabulous images. That said, you'll be sunk if you look through the new EVF's in low light, try out the new AF tracking modes or look at image quality from the new lenses designed for the wider mount and shorter throw. The F4 glass blows away the old F-mount 2.8s. As my eyes age, I thank the world for these incredible EVF cameras.
Did you say the fps for the Z50 II?
It's 11fps with the mechanical shutter for RAW files, but it will do the 30FPS full res jpeg capture with up to a second of prerelease capture. Kinda nuts in a sub $1000 camera.
Great video, I'll probably be getting one eventually
Thanks Hudson, I look forward to a more in depth review when you get your copy. I have a dilemma, of sorts. I bought the Z600TC, but cheaped out and got a used Z6i. Now, I look at this as a potential interim camera to shoot wildlife whilst I put aside some money for a new Z9, or whatever may be introduced in the interim. All things being equal, and I know it isn't in the wild yet, but do you think the decision has legs? Thanks!
@Karkawry1970 no. That's too long at aps-c for most situations without even activating the built in TC, and it's certainly ready for more than 20MP. You should have the Z6iii or Z8 at minimum, but the Z9 is the right body for that. We're still years from any refresh there. The Z9 remains a king in the wildlife/acton realm. It's perfectly balanced on big primes.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto I was thinking mainly about the bird eye AF would be beneficial for me, but the crop factor is certainly a big consideration with the 600/840mm. Will plod along with the old Z6 a bit longer, plus I like the sensor and low light capabilities...
@@Karkawry1970 you'd LOVE the Z6iii then.
I'm using Vitrox lenses on my Nikon bodies these days...a cheaper excellent quality alternative for sure...just picked up a 13mm aps-c in f1.4 for video on a stabilizer....but same lens on a Z6 is beautiful fast wide angle at about 19.5 crop factor...these third party lenses are making it possible to upgrade on a budget...I would prefer an upgrades sensor with ibis for a z70???...great job new Sub...i use Nikon to create on my channel as well as for last 30 years professionally
I've got no issue with not having IBIS, but the crop within the crop.
@@iconicon3108 that's really a video feature where it's not an issue to achieve 4k from a 5.6k sensor. For stills either use the VR nikon lenses (the dx kit lenses as well as the longer S glass all are), or keep the shutter speed up by the old fashioned rules. Not an issue for that little 23mm 1.2 Voigtländer (1/30), but more an issue with the Viltrox 75 1.2 (1/100).
I think this would be a nice camera paired with the 105mm macro. 21 megapixels is fine for macro and you'd have 157mm equivalent macro lens. Too bad it doesn't have sensor stabilization. That's the one thing missing that would round out this camera.
Does the z50 ll have in camera focus stacking?
@@stevencalvert4622 great question! I'm not 100% sure, but I'll let you know soon.
I’m happy with everything accept wish it had a larger battery. I’d love to see that 20mp sensor in that z6iii body with this sensor. I also like those viltrox lenses for z
@@sdhute the PD power delivery port really mitigates that. Just plug in a battery brick like this at lunch or been shoots in the pack. amzn.to/40TYAxj
It's always topped off. 3 full batteries for $27. :) I can't remember the last time I swapped batteries in a PD capable body.
So image quality same as a Z 50?
yep, but the ability to nail subjects and usabilty just skyrocketed.
Good introduction. Thanks
How would you compare the Z50 II with the R50 for someone who just shoots jpegs, and doesn't care about video?
@@Alsayid I'd first urge you to shoot RAW. Second reiterate you should shoot RAW, then third suggest you use the system you know best. They both make great cameras with different strengths and weaknesses.
The Z9 AF system and EXPEED7 might surprise some industry reporters, but I find the biggest surprise - above and beyond all - is Nikon's decision to radically expand the Custom menus of the Z50 II. Handoff AF setups are now easy.
What Nikon's now selling in the Z50 II were previously only available in Pro ILCs. Yes the Zf, then Z6 III were first in line for this capability, but these are mid tier FX cameras.
Previously Nikon's been extremely conservative in this department. Remember, their failure with firmware to add AFmode+AFOn options into the Z6 and Z7 persistently crippled these capable cameras for action photography. Something(s) upset the applecart, either new minds and/or actions on market research data. Another possible influence has been the huge sales of the Z9 and Z8 with exhaustive discussions about Custom settings, particularly optimizing the AF modes using the Custom controls.
100% They are in effect cannabilzing themselves with bringing pro capabilities to lower models. I'm a bit blown away. I did not think the Z8 would get AutoCapture, but... then the truck started rolling. Z6iii and Z50ii are both surprising in that regard.
Correction to the longer life of the upgraded battery. On the 50II it’s actually a little less. Processor and EVF are eating it up more now.
@@speedbumpmedia9584 I can't speak to that yet, but the PD charging negates any concern for me. Plug it into a $30 Anker PD brick in the bag when not shooting and the battery will last forever.
Nikon, we need a flagship DX with 24mp, VR, and maybe partially stacked sensor. We’re waiting since the D300. The D500 is great, but it’s not 24mp.
@@tedr5182 @glennn.3464 hmmm I owned both he D300S and the D500. I'll take that D500/Z50 sensor every time for the increased dynamic range and high iso performance. They're dramatically better. You can use super resultion to a much larger degree with that later generation sensor to more than negate the 3MP resolution difference.
I'd love it if they did a DX sensor high end body with 30+MP like Fujis new bodies, but I'm not holding my breath. I also don't think it's a guaranteed smart business move for them. Why? Their focus since the Inception of the Z system has been full frame bodies for the higher end market. DX Zs have solely focused on the lower end of the market. Keeping the price low by not including IBIS and using the existant d500 sensor was a way to bring lower end Nikon DSLR users into the mirrorless world. Many of them have graduated to full frame. Those who haven't are largely budget consttained.
Nikon is a smaller company that has to remain nimble and pick and choose the risks it takes. I don't think they feel developing a new high-end crop sensor would pay for itself given a shinking global camera market, the ability of their flagship full frame cameras in crop mode, their high end customers' wholehearted embrace of full frame, and competitor brands like Fuji's growing crop sensor market share.
The Z50ii is not designed to be that pro level camera though. It's instead an amazing, entry level, small camera that packs more punch than its market should expect. Maybe a dream high end aps-c Z camera is in the works too, but I would not bet on it.
I'm getting more and more confused by Nikon. We've been shooting 8 years with a D5600 mostly fitted with Tamron 17-50 2.8 for art, architecture, food and the occasional bird. I just don't know what to upgrade to anymore 😢
The Z50II will put a huge smile on your face. You can use an FTZ adapter if you want to keep using the 17-50. Be sure to also grab the 16-50 DX kit lens with it. I think you'll be astounded by the increased image quality from it, despite the smaller variable aperture.
Great informative video, as always. I particularly appreciated the "skunk works" reference! I wonder how many viewers recognize that reference. It is one of my favorite historical success stories.
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For a first purchase obviously the Z50II would be the choice but.....
only problem with that 50 to 250, not a great quality lens indoors, too much noise at higher iso...that would be needed at full focal lenght...
@@JoeSteel1 it's certainly not a pro level indoor sports lens, but then I don't know of any 75-375 equivalent lenses that are. 🤣 To get fast long glass you've got to pay a lot of money. The 70-200 2.8 S is the best game in town for indoor sports, but it will cost you 2.5 times the Z50IIs price. The Z 70-180 2.8 isn't as good, but it's a fraction of the cost of the superior S lens.
Malaysia noted.. 🇲🇾
The Viltrox 13mm 1.4 is another superb lens for this and the original body. Great video.
@@ken9576 hmmm. I didn't dig that on full frame. I'll have to recheck on DX.
I have a dream. It has IBIS, BIF Autofocus magic and the same sensor guard as my Z8.
@@WatchmanNiel well you do get the BIF subject mode here in 3D, auto and wide area on the Z50ii, and Good VR with long S lenses or the DX VR 50-250. No mechanical shutter body (not even the 6iii) gets the sensor guard though. That's where they put it in the Z8/9. That requires a very expensive, fully stacked shutter less new APS-C sensor to be designed and made. It would be neat, but it's very unlikely. It takes a second to blow off the sensor every week though to keep it clean. Not an issue for me at all. I still have to wet clean my Z9 too now and then anyway.
@ I appreciate that and I am really upbeat about Nikon’s trajectory, but I just do not see myself upgrading to this in favour of my D500 and 500mm PF lens and I am pretty sure there are others who feel this way. This just does not seem like the dream Z series D500 replacement.
Btw, thanks for all your great Voigtlander insights, I am loving the 50mm f/1 on the ZF!
@@WatchmanNiel 👍 I think the z8 is very much your D500 replacement. I adored that combo too and kept it till the Z9 launch. I only sold the 500PF when the new S PF lenses launched. It was great on the ftz. You'd be blown away by the Z8, and its sensor in DX crop is better than the D500s and the same resolution essentially. Not to mention the tracking, pre release capture, auto capture, low light EVF performance, etc, etc... That's what nikon considers the D500+850 replacement all in one body, and many folks like you have made the move already.
Plenty to like on the Z50 II ; however Nikon again missing boat in not doing / done a Z70 (rival A6700, R7, Fuji Equiv) with Z9 tech, expeed 7, IBIS, Z6 Body shell, maybe higher res MP and derive that tech - Maybe using the Z50 sensor into the Z50 MK 2 -> then backflush down to ZFC & Z30 MK 2's.
you have to consider the cost of new sensor development in the grand scheme. They've only done 2 since the Z system launched in 2018. The z9/8 and the z6iii. The Z7s use the d850's Sony fabbed sensor, all the apsc varients use the D500's Sony fabbed sensor and the Z6(ii) and Zf use a crazy good, but old Sony fabbed 24mp sensor. Developing a new sensor is a huge endeavor. I'd love a DX sensor like fuji has recently developed, but I doubt Nikon thinks their DX market will support the R&D costs.
Canon is a much larger overall company with more financial headroom to experiement in various markets. Fuji's primary focus is APS-C. Nikon is clearly focused on the higher end full frame market primarily and working to keep costs low on the Aps-c front to bring budget, DX DSLR shooters into the mirrorless age. Many of us would love a bad ass new pro grade Aps-c body, but 'how many of us' is the question... It would have to be a new sensor to attract higher end users as the Z8/9 in DX mode outperforms the Z50's sensor. I would not hold my breath. Nikon has been doing a great job navigating a shrinking consumer market, but they have to step cautiously.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto Thanks, any good insights on when these Z50 MK 2 will be landing on UK. US, Rest of World shores ? - is it still around 21st of November 2024 ?
@@dafyddthomas7299 that's the word, but... I'm already hearing about unexpected demand causing delays.
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Again my pet hates on Z APS ML - no IBIS, sensor cleaning and again where are the Z APS ML lenses Nikon - so have done an APS ML Lens release at same time, maybe a PZ of 18-70 F4 - F5.6, 18-105/104 F4.5 - F5.6 or do a rebadge / remount of the excellent F mount 16-80 AFS F2.8 - F4 lens in Z.
Nikon's larger focus is clearly full frame, high end users. The Z APS-C line is targeting retaining folks still shooting a Costco purchased D3500 or the like. That and and young, hip vloggers. Despite that, I adore the Z50 for the reasons stated in this video and we've got a ton of lens development outside Nikon. The Viltrox 75 is a very special lens as is the 23mm Voigtlander. The Nikon 24 1.7 is really a shockingly good lens and the dual kit is way better than it has any right to be. For me that's actually plenty for this little system.
sorry i love Nikon i used Nikon many years but i really dont understand what is so good about this camera ?
A sensor that is not just old buut VERY old no IBIS low mega pixel sensor ( yeah i know less pix better ISO performance but i wonder if that is the case when you compare it to a 8 year newer sensor) price also not cheap auto focus far behind cameras like Sony A6700.
I dont know man i feel Nikon dont care any more specially in DX cameras no really new innovation
I use a D500 nothing justify me to change to this camera or any other Nikon DX which are by the way all the same camera with a different jacket
Nikon you ever where a marked leading camera company what happend to you
I`m still waiting but not for to long i wont
@@willidevegt8831you're looking at it from the wrong perspective. This is an entry level powerhouse, not a D500 replacement. That's the Z8 clearly. Nikon's dedicated tier advanced lines to full frame for many years now.
Sony is not so different though. I think you should use a 6700 and then the original z50... You'll see why I prefer the Z50 EVF, design and controls by far. Sorry but the AF is not more advanced in the 6700 than Expeed 7. That's just inaccurate. Rent a z50ii and see. If apsc is your world and you want more than the Z50ii after trying it, then to be honest... I think you should look to Fuji. It'll take time to adjust to the interface, but they're killing it. ;) nobody else competes in that world. They own it for good reason beyond entry level.
You really shouldn't wait for Nikon. They're dedicated to full frame. The Z8 is clearly the camera they expect you to adopt. It outshines your D500 in every aspect even cropped to DX. Yes it's more expensive, but not much more than the original D500 price corrected for inflation. $2000 (2016) = $2736 (2024). The z8 is $3150 and you also get 46mp full frame and much, much more.
… still waiting for replenishment D500 :(
Canon works on R7 ll …… (33mpx)
Wake up, Nikon !!!
you have to consider the cost of new sensor development in the grand scheme. They've only done 2 since the Z system launched in 2018. The z9/8 and the z6iii. The Z7s use the d850's Sony fabbed sensor, all the apsc varients use the D500's Sony fabbed sensor and the Z6(ii) and Zf use a crazy good, but old Sony fabbed 24mp sensor. Developing a new sensor is a huge endeavor. I'd love a DX sensor like fuji has recently developed, but I doubt Nikon thinks their DX market will support the R&D costs.
They're clearly focused on the higher end full frame market primarily and working to keep costs low on the Aps-c front. Many of us would love a bad ass new Aps-c body, but 'how many of us' is the question... It would have to be a new sensor to attract higher end users as the Z8/9 in DX mode outperforms the Z50's sensor. I would not hold my breath.
How many of us ? Sells Nikon D500 it’s answer for that , but it’s nice you are among us.
Yes I know everything above 20 Mpx in dx system needs new sensors .
But is real in Sony/Canon/ Fuji 32.5 MP cmos sensor in 2022 inside camera ready to work.
Technology is here question is how many z8/z9 needs to be sold .....
I think if Nikon announce 26.5-32.5 MP Dx Camera I’m second in the line right behind you 😂
So far I skip Z50 ll .
@slawomirg3292 I think if it's $1200 maybe enough of us. If it's more, it likely loses money today. IBIS, z6iii like form factor, and 30+ MP new sensor...? That's going to be EXPENSIVE.
The D500 made a lot of sense in the D810 days, but less in the D850 days. Vast hoardes of us carried the D810/500 wonder combo. Lots of used 500s hit the market when the 850 arrived. I think Nikon's big R&D money is directly aimed at a loyal full frame crowd. If new sensors are coming, they're likely targeted there with DX crops to 30+ MP. Given Nikon's size and current position, they're pretty wise to keep the focus where they are. The DX is likely to stay an entry level line. Fuji is dedicated to Aps-c by comparison.
What’s is 1200$ price ?
In 2022 canon R7 was 1500$ today 1300$
There is room for up to 2k$ for pro DX Nikon Camera
Let me ask how much you would pay for 33mp pro dx format?
Statement Dx is for entry level photography is wrong, look at yr big prime telephoto lans with high MP dx Camera .
80063 and 33 mp dx sweet combo . Or 30028 ups ...
@@slawomirg3292 again, I am someone who would pay much more. I have NEVER stated DX is entry level, but I doubt there are enough high end DX buyers in the Nikon stable now to pencil out that kind of a design cost these days. Nikon's clear focus and primary market has long been FX. Since the 850 launch there has been no new DX sensor. It's all based on the d500. I doubt they believe it's worth the risk to develop high end DX sensors now. They are not the huge company that Canon is with resources to try that gamble. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
it more looks like a product nikon should have announced 2 years ago, can’t imagine nikon will use this camera to compete with Sony and Fuji in next five years, this product has nothing appealing. especially funny when nikon upgraded its video performance but no IBIS, can’t imagine you take a video with dx mode 1.5 cut plus 4k60p 1.5x cut plus electric stabilisation cut. It looks like Nikon doesn’t care much about its dx product line
You're 100% entitled to your opinion, but the Z50II is an awesome entry-level camera that outclasses everything else in it's price range. Period full stop.