I like having a server for newer players. Me and a Colonial spent five minutes shooting at each other without landing a single shot. Peak gaming experience.
This is how it often goes for me too: "There's gunfire coming from there I should shoot there" "There hasn't been any gunfire from there in a while. Did I get him? Lets focus on other areas" "Take cover! Take cover!" This can go on for a while because I proceed to do the same thing. A few times I "played dead" to let a tank come close enough for me to throw a grenade. Only one time worked properly though because other times their infantry support cleared me out. Still, fun times.
I think all the people saying charlie isn't real or whatever need to get off the game and touch grass. Both servers are real , both wars matter just the same. it's a fictional war meant to be played to have fun for both sides not a real life war. Touch grass. Have fun, let others have fun. This game is great. From the start of my journey of just watching yt vids to now actively fighting and having fought in charlie and able, there is literally no difference. Re-name the servers to server 1 and 2 and shuffle them around. People need to stop creating issues that should not exist.
For sure! As long as players are having fun that's all that matters to me. The only thing I would say I dislike right now about some Charlie players is that there is a Charlie player base that only plays the game on Charlie and will never join Able. I respect their decision to do this but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it means that other issues need to be addressed if that makes sense.
Charlie right now has a casualty rate of 4200ish an hour. Able has a casualty rate of 4400ish. That suggests a very similar population level at least at this point in the two wars. I understand when Charlie is nearly empty why people don't think of it as an actual fight to some extent. But it's got plenty of people playing their hearts out right now.
@@RobertLovesGames I think your recommendation of a server lock should be applied. But strictly. No listening to the whining able players that we need to play the "REAL" war on charlie. The only effective things the dev should do is merge both wars and make both of them the "REAL" wars. Both wars and the time invested in them should matter. And no player should feel that one server is inferior. as I said in my original comment , make the servers just server 1 and 2 and balance players based on how full one server is. Able and vet players may whine for a bit but in 2-3 wars no one will care and it'll lead to a healthier system for the community and a less strained servers. Also will solve the 'All front lines are full" problem. I think a middle ground of time should be established where you can only join both servers in the early stages of the war , not the late stage if you are already playing on able since from proof of previous data we know losing a war and frustration cause this.
@@johnbaker7322 that's it! both wars matter 100%. After all we as players give them value. What value does Able's "REAL WAR" have when the player count is low? We should move away from this hate festival and learn to enjoy both servers as what they are. Servers.
I think one of the issues that causes the population imbalance is players being railroaded towards Charlie. Every day when I log on the game warns me about queues in Able, and the option "wait in queue" makes it sound like I have to queue to play in Able, which isn't the case. I can see a lot of newer players being confused by that and moving to Charlie under the impression that Able is full, it had me confused for a while. So over time, more players join and more players end up in Charlie, and if they're new they won't necessarily even know they can change what Shard they're on, or that they're even in a different shard. Like I said, I didn't until I saw someone chatting about it. EITHER WAY we should stop bothering the Charlie shard players other than maybe just informing them Able needs help or smth, no need to grief them into a burnout.
@@Lem0nsquid No 100% you're right, I just have a theory that new players tend to go Colonial more bc it's more familiar looking etc, which is why I mentioned about newer players not knowing about it.
@@SockeySoka yea I definitely agree on the familiarity. I started out as a collie years back but the uniqueness of the wardens eventually lead me to the faction and have remained since
I’m a 74th member on Charlie wardens and we had a group of able vets steal our frigate because our facility squad, forget to reserve it like they were supposed to. They used it effectively and killed a shit ton of stuff, but they didn’t ask and that’s why it pissed us all off.
Dude it doesn't really matter how well it was used them stealing it was a prick move and I can tell you they give zero shits about stealing it and would do it again. But they would fucking rage if they forgot to refresh their own squadlock and someone stole their ship.
I had someone on my side part of the 74th team. Who team kills them abuses the report button to get his own team band. Y'all need more control over your faction.
Charlie is fine. Ive been playing there from the beggining of this war and meet a lot of ppl like me. We didnt need any vets Regi to figure it out how to play. We still dont need them, Charlie is fine as it is. 🤠👊 For the Colonials we will win this war no matter what cost.
Love to hear it! There might be a bit more drama like this coming if the Able war ends soon. Everyone is going to come over to Charlie and finish that war out. Keep up the good fight!
Rejecting the vets isn't how you're gonna enjoy the game. They're an important aspect of it and can greatly help you learn / do thing you could never do before. For the end is our glory !
So, I'm on Charlie. We were pushing into Sable Port without much issue, with the wardens holding a 21 to the collies' 19 for about two weeks with only a 1 victory point shift every other day. Then, literally overnight Monday, the Collies are now winning. My entire front got upended, and they've taken Southern Blade, and we're hit with tactics we haven't even seen yet. it made the game a lot more depressing to me, as someone who plays this game as a meme-- making pigeon sounds and enjoying the wholesome interactions.
Thing is, having charlie as a "noob" server and Able as the primary server is a community invention. The devs did it for player numbers. I'm a 'vet', but terrible mechanically when it comes to combat; I always play support roles, and play Charlie for less queue time, and to be more chill. I think Foxhole should embrace a multifront server system. Make C or B akin to the African front in WW2, where gains in 1 affects the other. It would not only make the community spread out the skill level more evenly, making it matter less if a regiment or 5 swap servers for an operation, it could help keep the playerbase active by reducing burnout because players can get a change of scenery by swapping.
Unfortunately, it's devman invention. Prior to this update war they made clear division that Able is for veterans and experienced players while Charlie is for new players. This division is in their Infantry Update Shard Launch Times blog post from November the 12th.
I just got this game the other day and am finding it fun even tho I barely know what I am doing. Helped dig a large base last night which managed to hold off numerous waves of enemies
as someone who did their first two wars on Charlie, just play Able imho I wish I would of just waited 5 minutes for Able Q. killing Charlie won't really help but that's how it goes, Charlie dies quickly anyhow. in my opinion Charlie is good for those who don't wanna join a big clan and play 2-3 hours with a close group. edit: going from Able to Charlie to stomp is b*'*' boy behaviour and server locks should be a thing for Able, if you go from Charlie to Able that's fine but eventually you will be locked to Able.
lol I would love that! Alright folks come up with some inside joke you can all start saying to me when you see me :D like "can't wait for you to eat a shoe next year!"
I just wanted to say as a brand new player who joined about 2 weeks ago and is playing in my first war, I accidentally joined Charlie instead of Able (I didn't even know there were multiple servers when I got the game). The experience has been great so far. I have been doing logi in Red River/Cannonsmoke and everyone has been very friendly and patient. I have asked a lot of questions and the people have taught me a lot. Shoutout to RSI, TRD, and CFD regiments on Charlie! I am a solo player and have not picked a regi yet, but I'm not sure if I will anytime soon. I enjoy playing solo after work.
Used to play back when Baker was used as an overflow shard, and decided to make my return war on Charlie this year. Being able to guide the new players about the different concepts of the game is extremely fun to see from a "Vet" perspective if I can even call myself that, as while I have played Foxhole since War 80 I never fully committed to it. Recently the Charlie Colonials managed to make one of the largest planned operations to date in the war, with us taking over the Endless Shore hex completely, with it allowing for rapid movement into the surrounding hexes, which shows that cooperation is becoming more and more common among the newer players. We will see how the situation will change with the Able War nearing its end, but my own regi and some other players have expressed wishes to trial our skills on Able with the upcoming 120 War.
I would recommend either hanging out on Charlie for one more war. Rn Able is... having some growing pains... regarding changing how colonials there do things and what needs to be done to try and win. I'm thinking of swapping to Charlie shard myself, simply because Charlie appears to have it together a touch more...
That Frigate you mentioned in the beginning was stolen by the way (and it wasn't the first time, some of us tried to explain how to squad lock it but they didnt listen aparently). It was a suicide mission so the Frigate was eventually destroyed. The clan that owned the Frigate has now given up their base and might not come back to the game. Yeah, they should have locked it but who steals a large ship like that? Its also unclear (to me, at least) whether it was actually Able Collies who stole it. They kept on changing their Regiment tags to different, well known, Able Collie Regiments.
Well that's really crappy to hear. I don't know if you are in touch with that clan at all but if they come back for war 120 I will be Warden and I can get them a free Frigate if they need one! Have them reach out to me!
@@RobertLovesGames I just started playing a week and a half ago so I could be wrong but unless it's another frigate, our frig (74th) got stolen by able guys who took it to the front and suicided so sounds like they're probably talking about ours and if they are, our reaction was a solid meh. We were more annoyed about a few alts continually attempting to steal shit this past weekend than the frigate. I don't know anyone who's said anything about being anywhere near quitting over any of it. It was an annoyance and they're assholes for doing it, but no reason to try to fear monger about whole Regis quitting over it. Again, very well might not be the same ship but since it just happened and was confirmed able alts I'm assuming it's ours.
I always love hearing feedback from the player base and getting a pulse on what is actually happening within the game. As I mentioned in the video I don't like to sugar coat anything and will talk about how I really feel about these situations.
as much as the situation sucks, i find it rather interesting as its in some ways analogous to a proxy war. colonials and wardens joining the opposite faction on charlie shard in order to end/continue its war to try to gain/negate an advantage in the main conflict reads a lot like that.
HEy, I just wanted to say, this is my first week in foxhole, i don't have much time either because of my final exames but this Game just looked like the Game I was looking for years. I started on Charlie but quickly went on Able, because I didn't understand the differences and the moste Regiments are on Able. So I joined a Regiment on the second day of my Journey, switched to Able and just wanted to say thank you for your tutorials and work you are putting in this videos. Because of you I finally started playing the game, and joining a regiment. Firstly I was worried that a noob like me might not be wanted of an Regiment, but I just met players which were understanding and helped me, thank you for your videos and helping us get into the game. I hope you keep producing Foxhole content till the end of the game
In a regiment you get a way better shot st coordination. We always have Randoms with us but we are needed for them to gain access to the bigger picture war machines and methods.
A new player here, who got the game due to your videos on the matter. I was originally on the Charlie server as a Warden, fighting an endless war at The Calastra over the bridge between Transept and the Watchful Nave. I saw and partook in the Bridge rebuilding probably half a dozen times. Every time we would push, only for the Colonial defense and surprise offensive to push us back over the bridge. It was a fun time I had, being part of pushes either as infantry (I tried using mortars once, but accidentally stood right behind another player when firing. You can imagine what lesson I learned rather quickly…), Push gun crew, Tank crew, as part of an Artillery crew, rebuilding the Bunker Base after the Colonials had rained down shells across the night. But, after a week or so of intermittent playing, this little corner war began to grate on me. They'd sometime push us back to the Treasury, but we'd push them right back. Determined to remain in the same column until the end, it wasn't until a massive Colonial push made us leave even Treasury that I decided (and realized I could do so due to one of your videos) to switch over to Able and try the Warden experience there. Ironic that people from Able were basically making the same move in the opposite. Albeit for much less justifiable reasons, if I dare say. Rather petty goings I'd call it. Ah, but oh well!
Oh boy! I was a Colonial Stationed at Watchful Nave over the last few weeks, I must have built the bunker system 3 times across the bridge, just to login again to y'all having it again!
Hehe...I know that bridge. From the other side. The second day I was there, we ran out of everything except hammers and pistols. People running up to each other fighting hand-to-hand...like Mammon rushing without the Mammons. So I went to the Drowned Vale front soon after.
I can't tell you how many truckloads of BMATS I ran down to The Treasury factories the last couple weeks. It was a gut punch when the goblins captured it.
Hello leader of exiled here as a regiment that started out in able and moved to Charlie to get away from toxic clans, we managed to make a discord where all Charlie regiments talk and communicate which is allowing us all to learn a lot more and help each other out! We also do weekly meetings for the regiments so that all regiments in Charlie can come together and talk about what we need done and help with in the Charlie war!
Hey there, I remember 1 of your clanmates yelling at anyone of everyone near Treasury frontlines, a few days before we finally took the Treasury. Specifically, it was regarding 1 Warden Highwayman Mk. 3 running rampant near our bunker base. Man was frustrated and started calling everyone retarded for not picking up AT to kill the tank, telling a "foreigner" to shut up when spoken back to, because his rank is higher than whoever it was that spoke back to him. He also complained why he is playing on Charlie with a bunch of noobs when he could be on Able instead. There are a number of ways to get a bunch of ptes to become engaged in destroying 1 highwayman rather than yelling nonsense, or else just stay on Able if they hate noobs doing what they can to keep the frontlines from falling. Honestly though it's probably 1 bad apple within your regi, not saying it's your entire regi.
If you want new recruits, then join Charlie and teach new players about what they want to learn and what you want them to join and do. That’s what I do, and that’s what seal clubbers should do (I don’t recruit new players as much as just teach them the game and ask if they want to join Able)
The whole reason I am scared of switching to Able is because ive heard nightmares about "hour long queues" and "Regi's mass reporting for using their resource node" which ive not heard the same stories on charlie. I enjoy designing BB's and Facilities but with my small group I dont think we would enjoy the much more serious environment that able has been made out to be to us.
It's no where near as bad as people make it as long as you get registered on either the warden or colonial hubs you can fight anything that pops off usually.
@@TheThiroc I play as a duo, and have run a facility for my first war on charlie, we have been producing a fairly large amount of 150/120 each day. Our fear is that we couldnt do that without significantly more people on able.
none of these issues happen lol, genuinely most able regis are new player friendly, and reports literally only happen if someone is so blatantly greifing that it's the only option, even the idea of hour long queues mostly happen due to a pop imbalance on the shard, if people would come over from the other shard the queues would be fixed bc queues try to balance hex player count
@SkarDungeon hell my bunch has done it with three people key with able is see who is doing what each side has a discord hub and I think a website so you can see where the major clans are setting up and there's usually room on midline sections somewhere where you truly need ammo facs
@cornblaster7003 yeah usually this pops off from alting but I've run into a few players that have tried to mass report over the years badmanlarry and helping Hans to name two of em
It's never around long enough to get content going really. Especially when all major clans and players play on Able. If Charlie was open more often you would probably see more content from it honestly.
I hate to say this but you would be surprised how some players feel towards one another about who plays on Able and who plays on Charlie. I would not say it's common by any means but players have told me about situations like this. I'm trying to break down that barrier and division, though it may be a long process.
@@CsDeathshadow Sadly, hoping for a bunch of individuals to change their behavior won't happen. It happens top down, and requires the devs and players to establish it from the beginning. At this point you couldn't 'naturally' improve the community as a whole, maybe in theory if you spent an obscene amount of time, to individually punish people who were going around being dicks, sure. But as it is, the people who are going around and ruining other peoples games, are going to keep doing that. They know they suck, but there's no negative consequences for it, so who cares? In theory another possibility would be having admins who are able to nudge aspects of the war, weather or resources or such based of groups and players and skill, but that quickly gets into like 'fairness' issues, and outside of a system built into the game itself, I don't think you're likely to see an implementation like that.
I do not believe that colonial able vets going to charlie wardens to end the war is such a good idea. First all the time they spend on charlie is time we have less vets in able. And second if charlie war end there will be more players on both sides on able. Not only the colonial one.
As a new player I must say playing in charlie as a collie was a nightmare. We were always lower on supplies. We always had less tanks and artillery. And there was no strategic attacks happening on our side. So with all my rage I changed servers and picked the wardens bc I thought they had better equipment and better regiments. That wasnt the case ofc but my point is a lot of ppl do what I do which is the opposide of what the vets want. They are getting more enemy recruits on the main war by stomping on newbies
Devs made a mistake for creating a Charlie shard for this war - there was clearly enough space for all players in a single war. Instead of making multiple shards, devs should focus on IMPROVING the servers to accommodate more players
Programming the server network to support more players is extremely hard to achieve. It can take years for developers to integrate new server features depending on what they have in the pipeline. Creating a new shard is nothing compared to building new features for servers
I haven't played in well over a year, so stumbling my way through relearning everything on a sever that is less try-hardy has been great. But I also feel that I have a decent handle on the game from previous wars that I could help out NEW new players. My main goal was to produce public harvesters for the hex since I don't really remember seeing public ones back when I used to play on Able. I haven't felt stressed to min-max everything. Just produce what I can, when I can. While relearning building, and its infuriating intricacies, I accidentally built a bunker that kinda looks like a cat when viewed from a certain angle. I know I would have been yelled at for waisting resources or not being efficient in my garrison placements or something. I'm kinda proud TBH, I got to build my first howie which is pretty cool.
able is genuinely nowhere near as bad as people think it is lol, you cooperate with people and they'll teach you how to play no problem, genuinely most of the idea that able is worse to new players comes out of charlie loyalists and people who blame the vets being "anti new player" when in reality they're just unpleasant to be around or are refusing to stop doing something harmful after it's been explained to them why they shouldn't do that
Are you sure it ain't the other way around? Because I don't know what you were seeing the last few days, but the Collies on Able got steamrolled the last three days, while the Collies on Charlie are having our best push yet in the same timeframe. As far as the Blueberry seals, they tend to come in during the wee hours, about 4:00AM-9:00AM EST, when the numbers are low. That's when we Collies lose a lot of regions we won the day before. But, honestly, I think a lot of Collies on Able are giving up now, and coming over here to Charlie. The relative gains and losses over the last couple days seems to bear this out.
I think you're right about able collies moving over. I noticed that once the front on able collapsed, the east on charlie started getting pushed HARD by collies
They have done this in the past. I would guess we see more hexes added with the new airborne update. Or at least I hope so. What they could do is also change the layout of some current hexes. For example Kings Cage is rarely played in and rarely qued. If they changed the layout it could be another active front.
@@RobertLovesGames It's almost like it's an infinitely scalable system. Making a global persistent war. I understand the amount of content to create blows out exponentially, but adding shards is simply stupid when you have this ability to scale.
Hello Robet! I don't usually comment but.. Cool vid., i've heard this stuff too.. However i'm sure some regiments just go on Charlie to take a break from Able, or just for a break war of a kind.. But yes, i saw some Able regiments going hard on Charlie. But also some regiments just may need to recruit new players, or some veteran players may decide to create a new regiment on Charlie, with would be an issue if: 8:38 would happen, mainly since there is a number of Vets, not really that small as you may think, with goes to chill on charlie and help newbies, for so, rank lock would be a really bad idea. Also one think with really needs to be mentioned, the new Charlie generation will have really hard time switching to Able, from no frontlines, to long conc bases, from one regi controlling one hex, to one regi fighting over an oil filed. I personally remember in 1.0 switching from C to A shard, and it was not easy, really hit hard the first few days, a huge change for the players.
Thanks! And yes that's true some players do go on Charlie just to get a different perspective and relax. I think once Able ends a lot of players will go over to Charlie and the Charlie players will see this all first hand soon. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
yeah, 99% of the time there's no malice to able players going over to Charlie, the actual bigger problem is the fact that charlie's player base attacks any vet that dares play on their server, so many charlie shard loyalists are so much more toxic than any able vet I've ever seen so it's very funny that able players are considered the toxic ones
Hey Robert as a new player and as both wars seem to be coming to an end I think it would be helpful to make a video on what start of a war is like and what to expect
That is from the devs! They post videos like this on their twitter sometimes and I use them in my videos because they looks so cool! Wish I had the dev camera!
what region? Ive admired the heck out of the Warden players. And this war has been great imho. (Its my first... so I really dont know what a good war is I guess)
Appreciate the video! I have to say, I have never had as much fun as I have had this war on Charlie. Met a group of great guys in Red River and we organically created a Regi with a mix of experience levels. Some of us were newer for sure but we also have some vets that wanted to be more involved in planning, building and organizing than you sometimes can on Able. I think some of the issue is that on Able, the large Regi's typically run the show and don't allow any players (Not just new) to be allowed the freedom to help make decisions and be involved with the process as they already have the "Best way" to do things figured out.
I'm glad you mentioned this, its been crazy the past couple days. Its my first war, and seeing Able brush off our colonial efforts on our Charlie server as vets carrying us instead of being legit has been disheartening. I wish my Charlie breathern the best of luck!
To be fair were at the point in alpha where we are just trying to find good fights and make em last as long as possible on the collie side. We're trying to wrangle as many noobs as we can and stick em in whatever roles they wanna learn. I was told as a noob "ignore the queue warning and join able, collies need manpower"
Able player looking for Charlie opinion here: So, first off, I think this is appalling. I'm an Able Warden, and we just about have this war finished. I'm in a small clan, but we're all pretty experienced. If once we've won on Able we came over to Charlie as Colonials, not to counter seal club, but to lead, teach and offer guidance to new players facing an unfair situation, would that be helpful?
Sure, teaching and helping, great. Being a dick, less so. No one is going to be upset if you come over, help teach new players, give them tools. Now if your whole group comes over, techs up, grabs "some new people" and then goes and curbstomps with 95% og people and a couple newbies, that's not really the same.
Honestly, the best you could do is just choose a front you want, and fill in any way you'd like. You've got to realize that you have regis and squads that have been leading successful operations on Charlie from the start. They aren't "new." They don't need "guidance." They need people that are going to take advantage of the things these players who have been fighting all day every day on Charle since Day 1 have already worked hard to set up. We've got infrastructure. We've got logi. We've got good tankers, good infantry, and capable navies. We just need people who are going to work with them.
Idk, it’s been a great fight so far in Charlie. It’s my first war, I’m a colonial, ~100hrs. We train our new players on logi and do our best to support each other with medics and supplies. We do have big ops from regiments, but often they include other players who aren’t in those regiments. Doesn’t seem like it’s mismatched right now, unless there is an enormous amount of regiments that joined colonial in recent days that have contributed to pushes. Even so, I still think a lot of our members are taking ownership and trying to contribute to the overall war effort.
I played Charlie from 96-99 and vet stacking isn't always a bad thing. So long as those vets take the time to teach those around them it can be a very positive experience. I lucked out and got picked up by a man named Wafflez. He taught me all about being a partisan and such. It led to the player I am today and without his vet experience being passed onto me, I feel like I'd still be floundering around here and there.
Please just get the vets out of Charlie. Last night in Stilcan Shelf, a regiment from Able, joined the Colonials in attack against the Wardens. We got destroyed
Charlie is an overflow server for new players during update wars. This whole rivalry started when they named the server something and now its causing people to quit. I started my foxhole journey as a warden on charlie and I hate what is going on. Although my first battle was a high rank gathering a bunch of low ranks to join him while teaching a few of us things.
When I first started playing this game in its early beta phases, it was certainly more friendly/doable to solo. But the truth is you’re better off joining a clan to get the most out of the game. Not every clan is the same so you shouldn’t feel forced to join a sweaty tryhard group
Agreed! I played solo for my first 300 hours or so and loved it. Things did just get a bit easier when I joined a clan though. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
This is my first war playin as a Charlie Collie. The community of players eager to learn and to teach is amazing to see. We recently pulled off a major multi regiment offensive through Endless Shore, although i’m sure some seal clubbers could have been amongst the ranks. We take pride in figuring out tactics and logistics ourselves! Rock and Stone Charlie brothers🤘🏼
I really enjoy your content. I played foxhole back in war 99 and quit after getting clubbed. I started late in this current war but I’m seeing the vets around me. I wonder if fix flipping would be an option to correct alpha to Charlie. Make it so these vet players can change the server but they gotta be opposite faction of the alpha.
Didn’t realize that was an ongoing issue, but then again I’ve only ever played on Able, makes sense now that I think about it, seemed odd during war 109 when about halfway through the war that Regis that had been in a hex I was constantly playing on just completely up and left their facility to decay, I just figured they moved hexes due to overcrowding and high msupp usage. Hopefully the devs server lock players to fix this issue, glad to hear you talking about it Robert. 👍
Yea hopefully we see less and less of this kind of server hopping. And thanks! Just trying to keep people informed on what's going on in the background :D
I'm a Charlie Warden player, this is my first war so I don't really know when we are vet players from Able or just experienced Charlie players. This is just me ranting about my experiences the last few days because even though I'm new to this game I absolutely love it and want to share my experiences. Ferimor has been fought over many times by now. Two days ago was the first time I was actually around to see us being pushed out of Feirmor (our main base had already fallen but we were still maintaining a presence there when this happened). We were doing fine when four enemy armoured vehicles showed up. I have been in such a situation once before on the same front. That time it led to us having to blow up a bridge we had built maybe an hour ago. Even then the situation had taken some time to stabilise. This time too we lost a lot of ground initially. We were pushed out of Feirmor and lost a lot o ground in Tomb. I was genuinely thinking that we were about to lose Tomb because we didn't have armour. Though one tank did end up joining the counterattack eventually. Once the intial fast advance of the enemy had stopped due to trenches, to my surprise this time players decided to be more active about dealing with enemy tanks. Some players were encouraging people to swarm the enemy tanks and several people were shooting RPGs. We managed to push them out of Tomb and they were forced to blow up the bridge. Next time we went to the other side I saw signs warning Collie players against rebuilding the bridge just like we had on our side. It felt very satisfying to see those signs and I felt proud of the people on that front, some of which had become familiar names by then even if I didn't talk to them. Part of the series of events was due to logi. During the previous tank rush the base only had anti tank rifles and some mammons to deal with tanks wheras the second time we had RPGs which people either seem to like using more or they're just more likely to do damage. On our Feirmor foothold we had AT weapons that were unusable which is why we couldn't do anything (There were a lot of grenade launcher greandes but no grenade launcher). Once we got to a base with AT we pushed them back. I like to think that aside from logi the players there had also learned not to panic against tanks and instead deal with them effectively. I know I did. During the last assault I had a good sniping spot so I was using an AT rifle to hold them back but whenever I faced a tank, even if it was one, then I had a tendency to take hide in a hole and try to pick off infantry. If I happened to pick a mammon then the plan got upgraded to hide in a hole and try to throw a grenade. I still do the latter but now I make more of an effort to go to holes closer to the tank instead of waiting for it. I also feel more confident with AT rifles now even when I don't have a perfect spot like i did the previous time. Overall, despite the relatively short time I have learned a lot aside from what I mentioned and this has been a great experience. I was worried the community might be toxic but I was pleasently surprised. Only seen two instances of players being toxic in the chat but they feel insignifcant compared to the behaviour of the rest of the community. I am going to stick to Charlie for the forseeable future though. I have a lot to learn still and I enjoy the atmosphere here. Maybe some day I'll go to Able and be pleasently surprised there as well but I'm committed to the war in Charlie this time. It is oddly pleasent and comforting to see certain players that have beeen fighting on the same front as me for days even if I never talk to them.
I play Charlie to avoid Able Colonials of this very sort. If I discover we lose the war to any meaningful actions by Able Colonials playing as Wardens on Charlie trying to get us to play for them, I will play Warden on Able instead. Screw these jerks.
Yea this is certainly not the way to go about it. And this will probably happen even more if the Able war ends before the Charlie war ends which is looking very likely.
I at least understand that when the Able war ends both sides will get reinforced by people who want to keep fighting but have no war to participate in anymore otherwise. It's crummy in a sense that whichever server finishes first doesn't get to have their own start to finish contained war, but I don't see a way to avoid it outside of server lock. I am still in favor of that personally, although I am a little concerned it might lead to more alting eventually if people buy extra accounts just to keep playing in a war at all times. Still as you say in the vid Robert the devs have had a long time to make a change like that and haven't, so it seems unlikely at this point. I wish rather than making a medieval game they would have just released a sequel to this game with a better engine and networking backend that could handle a larger amount of players at once so we could just have one very big server. Ah well, maybe sometime in the future they will do something like that.
bro, vets just switching servers briefly to shitpost with warden equipment is what happened, trust me, there's genuinely no malice behind people doing that lol
I would have to disagree. Which is kind of what I'm trying to say in this video. It's a small minority that make the rest of Able look bad when a majority of us don't condone this behavior.
@@RobertLovesGames you are a prominent member of the community, of course you need to disagree. but we have thousands of players who actively choose to not play on the able server. if the majority of able players weren't the problem, then there wouldn't be thousands of us not wanting to interact with able players.
So I get this and know it's a problem within our community. I guess I just feel like it's more than just "Able players bad" I think there is honestly more to it. I haven't quite figured out what that is yet but when I do you better believe I will be sharing it and trying to fix this division. Appreciate your input on this!
@@RobertLovesGames haha. i thought it was pretty obvious :P if anyone is curious go back 2 videos and listen to robert's voice than listen on this vid lol
I tried teaching my IRL friends to play foxhole in December 2023, we didnt do any frontline, just make like logi in the Fingers on Charlie. Getting them acclimated to doing logi and driving supplies to the front. Then as the war on Able started to turn, a noticable amount of warden vets logged into Charlie and started seal clubbing. The collies lost like 3 whole hexes in 24 hours. Everyone burned out and my friends swore the game off for life. Absolutely HATE seal clubbing, and sadly there are Foxhole content creators releasing seal clubbing montages on youtube and reddit to this very day. Sadly there is no moderation the devs will take on this, even a +5% increase in the player base is a win to them... instead of the potential +20-30% we see from the steam sales. It is what it is.
Dang :/ You hate to hear stuff like that. And that's really sad to hear! And yea I don't think there is really much we can do about this right now sadly. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
Baker and Charlie are not cannon and therefore aren't real. Seal clubbing is easy on Able if you're Royal enough. 7:44 HEY THATS US SEAL CLUBBING RIGHT NOW LOL - Finch
Been playing and started at Charlie, love the server and don’t mind the stalemate until the Colonials came. I kinda don’t want to join Able, and content with playing Charlie
That's great to hear! And unfortunately at some point Able will be the only server left for part of the year. But I respect your decision to only want to play on Charlie!
As a member of SIMP we have gone back to Charlie aka our roots to recruit and teach the new folks the game. Don’t let a few bad apples ruin your experience when you can change that for yourself and more experienced peeps like my self and others can teach you
As someone who has played Foxhole for a little over 2 weeks. I personally joined Charlie because it looked like Able were full, and i did not want to spend the fist evening playing foxhole sitting in a queue. And while i were fully aware before i started playing that i can swap between them whenever i want, i've decided to stick with the war in Charlie until it ends. (And i still have a lot to learn)
I joined Charlie as a new player this war at about day 10 on the Warden side, and it started off quite even. We soon gained a small advantage at about day 20 or so, and held that advantage. But once the Colonials on Able started losing decisively, it became noticeably harder to make advancements and hold areas on Charlie. I think we lost about 2-3 victory points in just a day or two. It really seemed like Collie vets were transferring over. It was alright at first but a few days later it started to get disheartening and annoying. I'm probably just going to wait until Able starts war 120 so I can not only avoid the Charlie drama but also experience what it is like during the start of a war.
Charlie loyalist here. I started recently so I am a noob but I don't think i'll ever leave Charlie for Able. I'd rather participate in making history here than join a hundred wars in on Able. What i would love to see is more independent persistence or fundamental diffrence between the servers. Give us a reason to play both, ya know?
The game doesnt have enough players to always have other servers up and expecting people to play both wars is way to unreasonable, logi on one server alone is near a second job, next war is relic war and this war had more island resources + starting borders change so differnt wars do have differnces
@@thejimjimjim7 maintence supplies alone would kill the average man if asked to do alone and now one has to do on both servers out of his own free will? You would need to summon the king of unemployment for such a task
I started the game a week ago on Charlie, if such a thing happened I don't think it really occurred or even benefited the Wardens. Even with vets, you got a lot of newer players who are just going with the flow of things, not really fully understanding the depths of what they are doing or what they can do. That imbalance creates natural holes similar to have true wars can have. There have been times where we make pushes, but instantly get cracked back on, which I think would be tackled easier if there was a true flood of experienced players all of a sudden. But then again, maybe I came AFTER things began to balance out. Based on what is going on right now, instead of flooding able, Charlie is about to be flooded, which will create an interesting situation.
Everytime i got on baker or charlie server i choose the wrong side and got rekt by vet stack faction, it's more than frustating because you overun by player knowing how to play, so they encircle town, cut logi, destroy as partisan everything without contest because new player don't QRF or react properly for each situation. So the rear and logi get rekt then frontline get constantly push and humilated. One side war is very frustating, you don't even write "F" at all because there is no win battle and just loose. This is maybe okay if you play 2 hours sometime but if you invest yourself in this kind of war, you just loose everything you build or try to protect by a bunch of high rank which destroy you 10v1 because no one QRF and then troll you. On the current charlie war, i spawn in marban hollow, saw a bunch of low rank trying to defend some concrete bunker and get crush by 4 SPG, 5 Spatha and 1 Superheavy and was getting overrun by a bunch of high rank infantery clearing concrete all the way without even one guy repairing. I just alt F4 and was pretty happy to be just a visitor and not currently invest in this war.
I think any kind of server locking would cause issues, considering that the point of the second server is to take over traffic from the first one, but also it provides an alternative war for you to join. I do not think much can be done about this. At most you could put a "limit" on the amount of high-ranked for each faction, enforcing it similarly to pops.
True. And I agree I don't think much can be done as well. As I mentioned I don't think the devs would do anything like this but I did want to share what I think some possible solutions could be. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
a "boot" camp severs maybe? on a smaller map maybe with shorter war cycles. Then being "warned" on loading when you hit a number of hours you a forced out to a main sever? 🤷
@@Paios Some may want to be able to play the other side to try out new strategies and so on, that can only be done by one of the factions. Faction switching should only be not allowed for the same server.
I actually think I have a decent idea for how to fix server swapping for this. In game lore there is the hanged men faction they have lower pops and less effective tech as well as are basically pirates. I think if you server swap before a war on the primary server you’ve played you can only joint that 3rd faction and they have lower priority to get into server than coli or warden. To reduce work on devs make the tech from both factions the default for them but you don’t get both you get them peace meal (generally the worse one so like colli navel warden tanks) this also fits into the lore since they’re a deserter faction. To make them stronger each faction can’t see where on the map they have bases they need to actually search for them to destroy them.
Plus what happens if I reach a higher rank and I’m unable to play with my friends on the Charlie server because of it, some solid suggestions but a lot of grey areas imo.
Collies Wardens thinking Able guys going to Charlie to take Clahstra and Saltbrook, while in fact it's just MOSES, Zeh, SIMP, CHAD, FANI, VFC, MMM, and more CHC regiments loll. Skill issue, shame
The one thing that I have heard when Charlie Opened up. That it was a LARP server. They had two official discord servers. One was a Serious discord but unfortunately half of the people didn't like it. Due to them taking the game too serious for Colonials so half of them left to make a new LARP discord. People who built stuff based on how it would have been done back in WW1/WW2. The other thing was alts from Able when the war ended / those vets who wanted a break of the main war on able. They just dicked around and served no real purpose to help win the war. It was the later end of the wars on Charlie before they officially closed them. We saw the seal clubbing. Overall from Colonials I have talked with loved Charlie for the not so serious taking of wars or actually trying to win them. Make wars more accurate to what they would have been throughout history. Also the discord that is used is nothing like the Able Discord. The stories that I have from the times that Charlie was active at the start of the major update when the game went out of Early Access to version 1.0. we're interesting because there's only about two or three regiments that would actively try to fight and win the war with very strategic tactics. The rest were too busy in the back lines or working on train lines that didn't serve a purpose
I started playing about a week ago and didn't realize I was on Charlie, and picked Warden cause I liked the color blue. And It was a great time learning how to do basic logi, but I'm still getting used to combat since aiming always felt off for me, so most of the time I play Medic. I hope to play on Able one day but I didn't join when I realized how to change servers because I thought it was too late into the war to join.
Hope you enjoyed your time in the ROYAL BT line and we agree on not seal clubbing. Its a waste of time and if all these regiments hopping servers just stayed and kept going then the chances of the war being closer and a possible come back could be possible. Would say solution one seems the better of the two but also don't know the programming required.
It was a good time! And I completely agree! If you have the energy and time to play Foxhole I really don't quite understand going to another server to play to "relax". Thanks for your thoughts on this!
At this point collies are just delaying the inevitable, this is my third war and honestly it's been my favourite one, the mine fields were a lot of fun, but a pain in some cases.
Well no one likes to give up which is something I love about Foxhole :D We will fight until the very end! And yes those mines have been a lot of fun! Pretty proud that I've only stepped on one so far!
I wanna see charlie become a new map tied in with able so we get a true world war.Also charlie is where i run around as colonial lol (screwed that edit)
What do you hate about Able specifically if you don't mind me asking? As I mentioned one of my goals right now is to reduce the division between the two servers.
If your problem is with big clans, the only immediate suggestion is to fight in the sea lanes/coast. At least in East Sea where I’m located it isint congested with mega clans that eat up every resource
@@RobertLovesGames so when I play able I’m not as free to carry out my own wish’s , it’s mainly the toxic nature of the communication on able servers, on Charlie everyone is nice and understanding and the only bad experience I had was joining the clan “storm” and they yelled at me and sucked teeth when I was adding a stair case on a bunker, overall I join able at night time when less players are on Charlie sometimes and I do like the bigger battles but at the same time I just get a sense of reward on Charlie when I push up with smokes and gas’s and lead men to push ( nicely) I been able to Tank on Charlie which is something I wouldn’t do on able since the last time I tanked I was getting yelled at by vets in a trench to the point I hopped up and said “then you drive it” it’s not like I’m a total noob either which leads me to believe other more newer players are either scared shitless to do anything other than run and gun, I hope the community can realize not everyone even knew about this game 2 years ago and that a lot of the information we get to learn is from the community. I have took to navel attacks on Charlie which on able I feel like I could never really do or consider volunteering myself to load, drive or plan one beforehand. Able just gives me a sour taste when I hop on now and again I used to be a collie but in my opinion wardens are the type to grab ppl and go on a mission and on the way teach players and it really helps new players learn that there’s more to do other than run and gun and that’s the secret On why I think they are winning cause I’m still collie on able and they for the life of me don’t have ( solo or non regiment) players organized and engaged In warfare it just feels like I’m grabbing a boom stick and running to my death. Sorry for the bashing but these are the problems and tbh I didn’t know about seal clubs or that Charlie would go away and that makes me sad as a staff Sergeant with only 200 hours ( I play all day )
I honestly don't mind whenever able. That's come over to the Charlie server. Because it helps the learning curve on what's going. Foxhole is such a big game and that the learning curve is extreme sometimes. That being said, I do believe that they should have to have it locked after. You spend a certain amount of time in a shard.
Thank you! And I've been sick this week with a sore throat! Thanks for asking! I'm starting to feel a bit better so hopefully my voice will sound better for the video this Friday :D
I think the devs should rather focus on a single server players will naturally spread out to avoid queues, they could also expand the map. I find that the core aspect of foxhole, a shared persistent world, is diluted by having more than a single world.
Switch back and forth until OCDT. Then you need to play on Able. Those with more than 500 hours are restricted from Charlie. When selecting a shard, it should have a brief explanation of what each of them are for (Able for us sweaty try-hards, Charlie for learning the game). Siege Camp should also have Ambassadors from Able on Charlie, vetted Community Members who are on Charlie to help train new players and teach them all the tricks and bugs/ features. Finally, a system that connects the same regis on Able and Charlie so that new players can be mentored on Charlie and then brought over to Able once they want to/ rank out.
i agree with this. As a new player i got absolutely destroyed by more experienced players in Charlie and i don't feel like playing the game anymore. Although i love the concept of the game it just sucks feeling so one sided sometimes.
The business solution would be to rank lock Charlie. If people want to go seal clubbing, they should be buying smurf accounts. If people want to use the plebs in their power fantasy, they should at least be paying for the experience. They're going to be terrible human beings regardless. The devs may as well exploit their malice.
This is my first war, I have only played on Charlie and don't think I will ever want to be on Able. The fact that people in the game think that they should be able to own things like resource nodes is wild. The game has an awesome concept and I followed it for a while but I don't think I want to deal with toxic clan behavior. I raided in wow at a high level for a while and that can get toxic. I don't need more of that energy. I'm too old and don't have enough time to game anymore to waste it with toxic petty stuff.
I like having a server for newer players. Me and a Colonial spent five minutes shooting at each other without landing a single shot. Peak gaming experience.
Same. What they should think about doing as well is making Charlie server smaller maybe. Like less hexes.
This is how it often goes for me too:
"There's gunfire coming from there I should shoot there"
"There hasn't been any gunfire from there in a while. Did I get him? Lets focus on other areas"
"Take cover! Take cover!"
This can go on for a while because I proceed to do the same thing. A few times I "played dead" to let a tank come close enough for me to throw a grenade. Only one time worked properly though because other times their infantry support cleared me out. Still, fun times.
I think all the people saying charlie isn't real or whatever need to get off the game and touch grass. Both servers are real , both wars matter just the same. it's a fictional war meant to be played to have fun for both sides not a real life war. Touch grass. Have fun, let others have fun. This game is great. From the start of my journey of just watching yt vids to now actively fighting and having fought in charlie and able, there is literally no difference. Re-name the servers to server 1 and 2 and shuffle them around. People need to stop creating issues that should not exist.
For sure! As long as players are having fun that's all that matters to me. The only thing I would say I dislike right now about some Charlie players is that there is a Charlie player base that only plays the game on Charlie and will never join Able. I respect their decision to do this but it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth and it means that other issues need to be addressed if that makes sense.
Charlie right now has a casualty rate of 4200ish an hour. Able has a casualty rate of 4400ish. That suggests a very similar population level at least at this point in the two wars. I understand when Charlie is nearly empty why people don't think of it as an actual fight to some extent. But it's got plenty of people playing their hearts out right now.
@@RobertLovesGames I think your recommendation of a server lock should be applied. But strictly. No listening to the whining able players that we need to play the "REAL" war on charlie. The only effective things the dev should do is merge both wars and make both of them the "REAL" wars. Both wars and the time invested in them should matter. And no player should feel that one server is inferior. as I said in my original comment , make the servers just server 1 and 2 and balance players based on how full one server is. Able and vet players may whine for a bit but in 2-3 wars no one will care and it'll lead to a healthier system for the community and a less strained servers. Also will solve the 'All front lines are full" problem.
I think a middle ground of time should be established where you can only join both servers in the early stages of the war , not the late stage if you are already playing on able since from proof of previous data we know losing a war and frustration cause this.
@@johnbaker7322 that's it! both wars matter 100%. After all we as players give them value. What value does Able's "REAL WAR" have when the player count is low? We should move away from this hate festival and learn to enjoy both servers as what they are. Servers.
Charlie doesn't matter.
"Omg it's Rob ! Love your videos !!" - Most heard quote in Foxhole
lol! I love to hear it every time :D
I think one of the issues that causes the population imbalance is players being railroaded towards Charlie. Every day when I log on the game warns me about queues in Able, and the option "wait in queue" makes it sound like I have to queue to play in Able, which isn't the case. I can see a lot of newer players being confused by that and moving to Charlie under the impression that Able is full, it had me confused for a while. So over time, more players join and more players end up in Charlie, and if they're new they won't necessarily even know they can change what Shard they're on, or that they're even in a different shard. Like I said, I didn't until I saw someone chatting about it. EITHER WAY we should stop bothering the Charlie shard players other than maybe just informing them Able needs help or smth, no need to grief them into a burnout.
Pretty sure that game que is happening for both factions. I’m a warden and get it every day
@@Lem0nsquid No 100% you're right, I just have a theory that new players tend to go Colonial more bc it's more familiar looking etc, which is why I mentioned about newer players not knowing about it.
This is exactly what happened to me! I had myself in Charlie and didn’t even realize Able existed.
@@SockeySoka yea I definitely agree on the familiarity. I started out as a collie years back but the uniqueness of the wardens eventually lead me to the faction and have remained since
I really don't see the point in separate shards, simply add more hexes to the map. Simple.
I’m a 74th member on Charlie wardens and we had a group of able vets steal our frigate because our facility squad, forget to reserve it like they were supposed to. They used it effectively and killed a shit ton of stuff, but they didn’t ask and that’s why it pissed us all off.
It also died killing like 2 DD 2 Long hook and 1 sub in red river
Dude it doesn't really matter how well it was used them stealing it was a prick move and I can tell you they give zero shits about stealing it and would do it again. But they would fucking rage if they forgot to refresh their own squadlock and someone stole their ship.
I had someone on my side part of the 74th team. Who team kills them abuses the report button to get his own team band. Y'all need more control over your faction.
@@DaRealHashBrownwho?
Charlie is fine. Ive been playing there from the beggining of this war and meet a lot of ppl like me. We didnt need any vets Regi to figure it out how to play. We still dont need them, Charlie is fine as it is. 🤠👊 For the Colonials we will win this war no matter what cost.
Love to hear it! There might be a bit more drama like this coming if the Able war ends soon. Everyone is going to come over to Charlie and finish that war out. Keep up the good fight!
Rejecting the vets isn't how you're gonna enjoy the game. They're an important aspect of it and can greatly help you learn / do thing you could never do before. For the end is our glory !
i read this in the "nyet, rifle is fine." voice
@@racim9554 it is precisely how we enjoy the game. fuck able
@@racim9554 for some, trying out stuff and learning as they progress is fun itself
So, I'm on Charlie. We were pushing into Sable Port without much issue, with the wardens holding a 21 to the collies' 19 for about two weeks with only a 1 victory point shift every other day.
Then, literally overnight Monday, the Collies are now winning. My entire front got upended, and they've taken Southern Blade, and we're hit with tactics we haven't even seen yet.
it made the game a lot more depressing to me, as someone who plays this game as a meme-- making pigeon sounds and enjoying the wholesome interactions.
Storm and the coalition CIG Charlie is good considers themselves a training regiment that’s why we always go to Charlie and help train the new people
@@stuartx13 I’ve seen STORM around on Charlie.. They seem quite chill and inclusive to the noobs. Well done gentlemen.
I learned how to upgrade my truck at a Storm base. Very nice people.
I see you guys around!
Thing is, having charlie as a "noob" server and Able as the primary server is a community invention. The devs did it for player numbers. I'm a 'vet', but terrible mechanically when it comes to combat; I always play support roles, and play Charlie for less queue time, and to be more chill. I think Foxhole should embrace a multifront server system. Make C or B akin to the African front in WW2, where gains in 1 affects the other. It would not only make the community spread out the skill level more evenly, making it matter less if a regiment or 5 swap servers for an operation, it could help keep the playerbase active by reducing burnout because players can get a change of scenery by swapping.
Unfortunately, it's devman invention. Prior to this update war they made clear division that Able is for veterans and experienced players while Charlie is for new players. This division is in their Infantry Update Shard Launch Times blog post from November the 12th.
I just got this game the other day and am finding it fun even tho I barely know what I am doing. Helped dig a large base last night which managed to hold off numerous waves of enemies
as someone who did their first two wars on Charlie, just play Able imho I wish I would of just waited 5 minutes for Able Q.
killing Charlie won't really help but that's how it goes, Charlie dies quickly anyhow.
in my opinion Charlie is good for those who don't wanna join a big clan and play 2-3 hours with a close group.
edit: going from Able to Charlie to stomp is b*'*' boy behaviour and server locks should be a thing for Able, if you go from Charlie to Able that's fine but eventually you will be locked to Able.
we need to have a running gag of what to say to Robert other than just "I love your videos"
lol I would love that! Alright folks come up with some inside joke you can all start saying to me when you see me :D like "can't wait for you to eat a shoe next year!"
I just wanted to say as a brand new player who joined about 2 weeks ago and is playing in my first war, I accidentally joined Charlie instead of Able (I didn't even know there were multiple servers when I got the game). The experience has been great so far. I have been doing logi in Red River/Cannonsmoke and everyone has been very friendly and patient. I have asked a lot of questions and the people have taught me a lot. Shoutout to RSI, TRD, and CFD regiments on Charlie!
I am a solo player and have not picked a regi yet, but I'm not sure if I will anytime soon. I enjoy playing solo after work.
Used to play back when Baker was used as an overflow shard, and decided to make my return war on Charlie this year. Being able to guide the new players about the different concepts of the game is extremely fun to see from a "Vet" perspective if I can even call myself that, as while I have played Foxhole since War 80 I never fully committed to it. Recently the Charlie Colonials managed to make one of the largest planned operations to date in the war, with us taking over the Endless Shore hex completely, with it allowing for rapid movement into the surrounding hexes, which shows that cooperation is becoming more and more common among the newer players.
We will see how the situation will change with the Able War nearing its end, but my own regi and some other players have expressed wishes to trial our skills on Able with the upcoming 120 War.
I would recommend either hanging out on Charlie for one more war.
Rn Able is... having some growing pains... regarding changing how colonials there do things and what needs to be done to try and win.
I'm thinking of swapping to Charlie shard myself, simply because Charlie appears to have it together a touch more...
That Frigate you mentioned in the beginning was stolen by the way (and it wasn't the first time, some of us tried to explain how to squad lock it but they didnt listen aparently). It was a suicide mission so the Frigate was eventually destroyed. The clan that owned the Frigate has now given up their base and might not come back to the game. Yeah, they should have locked it but who steals a large ship like that? Its also unclear (to me, at least) whether it was actually Able Collies who stole it. They kept on changing their Regiment tags to different, well known, Able Collie Regiments.
Well that's really crappy to hear. I don't know if you are in touch with that clan at all but if they come back for war 120 I will be Warden and I can get them a free Frigate if they need one! Have them reach out to me!
@@RobertLovesGames I just started playing a week and a half ago so I could be wrong but unless it's another frigate, our frig (74th) got stolen by able guys who took it to the front and suicided so sounds like they're probably talking about ours and if they are, our reaction was a solid meh. We were more annoyed about a few alts continually attempting to steal shit this past weekend than the frigate. I don't know anyone who's said anything about being anywhere near quitting over any of it. It was an annoyance and they're assholes for doing it, but no reason to try to fear monger about whole Regis quitting over it. Again, very well might not be the same ship but since it just happened and was confirmed able alts I'm assuming it's ours.
There are a million frigates on Charlie. Check any Seaport. Maybe I'm too new to understand why it is such a big deal.
@@SunMiSongEve oh, I heard it was the WS Regiment's Frigate.
They suck, they went to Bewailing twice and we fend them off
Love that someone listen to normal players and trying to do something with it.
I always love hearing feedback from the player base and getting a pulse on what is actually happening within the game. As I mentioned in the video I don't like to sugar coat anything and will talk about how I really feel about these situations.
as much as the situation sucks, i find it rather interesting as its in some ways analogous to a proxy war. colonials and wardens joining the opposite faction on charlie shard in order to end/continue its war to try to gain/negate an advantage in the main conflict reads a lot like that.
HEy, I just wanted to say, this is my first week in foxhole, i don't have much time either because of my final exames but this Game just looked like the Game I was looking for years. I started on Charlie but quickly went on Able, because I didn't understand the differences and the moste Regiments are on Able. So I joined a Regiment on the second day of my Journey, switched to Able and just wanted to say thank you for your tutorials and work you are putting in this videos. Because of you I finally started playing the game, and joining a regiment. Firstly I was worried that a noob like me might not be wanted of an Regiment, but I just met players which were understanding and helped me, thank you for your videos and helping us get into the game. I hope you keep producing Foxhole content till the end of the game
literally in the exact same position as you bruh
Same
In a regiment you get a way better shot st coordination. We always have Randoms with us but we are needed for them to gain access to the bigger picture war machines and methods.
A new player here, who got the game due to your videos on the matter.
I was originally on the Charlie server as a Warden, fighting an endless war at The Calastra over the bridge between Transept and the Watchful Nave. I saw and partook in the Bridge rebuilding probably half a dozen times. Every time we would push, only for the Colonial defense and surprise offensive to push us back over the bridge. It was a fun time I had, being part of pushes either as infantry (I tried using mortars once, but accidentally stood right behind another player when firing. You can imagine what lesson I learned rather quickly…), Push gun crew, Tank crew, as part of an Artillery crew, rebuilding the Bunker Base after the Colonials had rained down shells across the night.
But, after a week or so of intermittent playing, this little corner war began to grate on me. They'd sometime push us back to the Treasury, but we'd push them right back. Determined to remain in the same column until the end, it wasn't until a massive Colonial push made us leave even Treasury that I decided (and realized I could do so due to one of your videos) to switch over to Able and try the Warden experience there.
Ironic that people from Able were basically making the same move in the opposite. Albeit for much less justifiable reasons, if I dare say. Rather petty goings I'd call it.
Ah, but oh well!
Oh boy! I was a Colonial Stationed at Watchful Nave over the last few weeks, I must have built the bunker system 3 times across the bridge, just to login again to y'all having it again!
Hehe...I know that bridge. From the other side. The second day I was there, we ran out of everything except hammers and pistols. People running up to each other fighting hand-to-hand...like Mammon rushing without the Mammons. So I went to the Drowned Vale front soon after.
I can't tell you how many truckloads of BMATS I ran down to The Treasury factories the last couple weeks. It was a gut punch when the goblins captured it.
Hello leader of exiled here as a regiment that started out in able and moved to Charlie to get away from toxic clans, we managed to make a discord where all Charlie regiments talk and communicate which is allowing us all to learn a lot more and help each other out! We also do weekly meetings for the regiments so that all regiments in Charlie can come together and talk about what we need done and help with in the Charlie war!
Best of luck to you! Keep sinking the warden navy!
@ Thank you! Currently giving them hell with the rest of the Charlie boys
Hey there, I remember 1 of your clanmates yelling at anyone of everyone near Treasury frontlines, a few days before we finally took the Treasury. Specifically, it was regarding 1 Warden Highwayman Mk. 3 running rampant near our bunker base. Man was frustrated and started calling everyone retarded for not picking up AT to kill the tank, telling a "foreigner" to shut up when spoken back to, because his rank is higher than whoever it was that spoke back to him. He also complained why he is playing on Charlie with a bunch of noobs when he could be on Able instead. There are a number of ways to get a bunch of ptes to become engaged in destroying 1 highwayman rather than yelling nonsense, or else just stay on Able if they hate noobs doing what they can to keep the frontlines from falling. Honestly though it's probably 1 bad apple within your regi, not saying it's your entire regi.
Charlie Collie Here we will win no matter the heavy amount of able wardens fighting us sableport will never fall
Love it! Keep up the good fight!
Fellow Sableport Defender Salute!
@@nahruz.w3044 love your work nahruz. Hero of Talons
@@nahruz.w3044 ive known no other home and it shall remain that til we win or we blow up
@@davidmilligan1233 cant even escape sableport when im not playing...
If you want new recruits, then join Charlie and teach new players about what they want to learn and what you want them to join and do. That’s what I do, and that’s what seal clubbers should do (I don’t recruit new players as much as just teach them the game and ask if they want to join Able)
Couldnt imagine switching teams and servers just because we were losing. Wardens 4 life!!!!
Love to hear it!! Praise Callahan!!
By Callan we're taking Feirmor no matter no matter how many times we have to rebuild the same bridge!
This is my first war, and I've been fighting on Charlie every day. I can't imagine leaving now, when we've invested so much. Charlie for life.
The whole reason I am scared of switching to Able is because ive heard nightmares about "hour long queues" and "Regi's mass reporting for using their resource node" which ive not heard the same stories on charlie. I enjoy designing BB's and Facilities but with my small group I dont think we would enjoy the much more serious environment that able has been made out to be to us.
It's no where near as bad as people make it as long as you get registered on either the warden or colonial hubs you can fight anything that pops off usually.
@@TheThiroc I play as a duo, and have run a facility for my first war on charlie, we have been producing a fairly large amount of 150/120 each day. Our fear is that we couldnt do that without significantly more people on able.
none of these issues happen lol, genuinely most able regis are new player friendly, and reports literally only happen if someone is so blatantly greifing that it's the only option, even the idea of hour long queues mostly happen due to a pop imbalance on the shard, if people would come over from the other shard the queues would be fixed bc queues try to balance hex player count
@SkarDungeon hell my bunch has done it with three people key with able is see who is doing what each side has a discord hub and I think a website so you can see where the major clans are setting up and there's usually room on midline sections somewhere where you truly need ammo facs
@cornblaster7003 yeah usually this pops off from alting but I've run into a few players that have tried to mass report over the years badmanlarry and helping Hans to name two of em
I love Charlie server. I'm always a bit bummed there's so little content out there that even addresses it.
It's never around long enough to get content going really. Especially when all major clans and players play on Able. If Charlie was open more often you would probably see more content from it honestly.
I have never heard somebody talked down to cause there first war was on charlie.
I hate to say this but you would be surprised how some players feel towards one another about who plays on Able and who plays on Charlie. I would not say it's common by any means but players have told me about situations like this. I'm trying to break down that barrier and division, though it may be a long process.
@@RobertLovesGames the only way those barriers will break down is if able players change their behavior.
@@CsDeathshadow Sadly, hoping for a bunch of individuals to change their behavior won't happen.
It happens top down, and requires the devs and players to establish it from the beginning. At this point you couldn't 'naturally' improve the community as a whole, maybe in theory if you spent an obscene amount of time, to individually punish people who were going around being dicks, sure. But as it is, the people who are going around and ruining other peoples games, are going to keep doing that. They know they suck, but there's no negative consequences for it, so who cares?
In theory another possibility would be having admins who are able to nudge aspects of the war, weather or resources or such based of groups and players and skill, but that quickly gets into like 'fairness' issues, and outside of a system built into the game itself, I don't think you're likely to see an implementation like that.
I play on Charlie in the 114th and in my opinion we are doing pretty well on the colonials side
That's awesome to hear! Keep up the good fight!
I do not believe that colonial able vets going to charlie wardens to end the war is such a good idea. First all the time they spend on charlie is time we have less vets in able. And second if charlie war end there will be more players on both sides on able. Not only the colonial one.
Agreed. It really makes no sense in the long run. And yep this probably going to happen once Able war ends.
As a new player I must say playing in charlie as a collie was a nightmare. We were always lower on supplies. We always had less tanks and artillery. And there was no strategic attacks happening on our side. So with all my rage I changed servers and picked the wardens bc I thought they had better equipment and better regiments. That wasnt the case ofc but my point is a lot of ppl do what I do which is the opposide of what the vets want. They are getting more enemy recruits on the main war by stomping on newbies
Devs made a mistake for creating a Charlie shard for this war - there was clearly enough space for all players in a single war. Instead of making multiple shards, devs should focus on IMPROVING the servers to accommodate more players
Programming the server network to support more players is extremely hard to achieve. It can take years for developers to integrate new server features depending on what they have in the pipeline. Creating a new shard is nothing compared to building new features for servers
@@zegaskmask5659cope huffer
I haven't played in well over a year, so stumbling my way through relearning everything on a sever that is less try-hardy has been great. But I also feel that I have a decent handle on the game from previous wars that I could help out NEW new players. My main goal was to produce public harvesters for the hex since I don't really remember seeing public ones back when I used to play on Able. I haven't felt stressed to min-max everything. Just produce what I can, when I can. While relearning building, and its infuriating intricacies, I accidentally built a bunker that kinda looks like a cat when viewed from a certain angle. I know I would have been yelled at for waisting resources or not being efficient in my garrison placements or something. I'm kinda proud TBH, I got to build my first howie which is pretty cool.
able is genuinely nowhere near as bad as people think it is lol, you cooperate with people and they'll teach you how to play no problem, genuinely most of the idea that able is worse to new players comes out of charlie loyalists and people who blame the vets being "anti new player" when in reality they're just unpleasant to be around or are refusing to stop doing something harmful after it's been explained to them why they shouldn't do that
Now I understand why pushing Endless Shore so quickly.
Are you sure it ain't the other way around? Because I don't know what you were seeing the last few days, but the Collies on Able got steamrolled the last three days, while the Collies on Charlie are having our best push yet in the same timeframe. As far as the Blueberry seals, they tend to come in during the wee hours, about 4:00AM-9:00AM EST, when the numbers are low. That's when we Collies lose a lot of regions we won the day before. But, honestly, I think a lot of Collies on Able are giving up now, and coming over here to Charlie. The relative gains and losses over the last couple days seems to bear this out.
I think you're right about able collies moving over. I noticed that once the front on able collapsed, the east on charlie started getting pushed HARD by collies
I don't know why they don't simply add more hexes to the map.
They have done this in the past. I would guess we see more hexes added with the new airborne update. Or at least I hope so. What they could do is also change the layout of some current hexes. For example Kings Cage is rarely played in and rarely qued. If they changed the layout it could be another active front.
@@RobertLovesGames It's almost like it's an infinitely scalable system. Making a global persistent war. I understand the amount of content to create blows out exponentially, but adding shards is simply stupid when you have this ability to scale.
Hello Robet! I don't usually comment but..
Cool vid., i've heard this stuff too.. However i'm sure some regiments just go on Charlie to take a break from Able, or just for a break war of a kind.. But yes, i saw some Able regiments going hard on Charlie. But also some regiments just may need to recruit new players, or some veteran players may decide to create a new regiment on Charlie, with would be an issue if: 8:38 would happen, mainly since there is a number of Vets, not really that small as you may think, with goes to chill on charlie and help newbies, for so, rank lock would be a really bad idea.
Also one think with really needs to be mentioned, the new Charlie generation will have really hard time switching to Able, from no frontlines, to long conc bases, from one regi controlling one hex, to one regi fighting over an oil filed. I personally remember in 1.0 switching from C to A shard, and it was not easy, really hit hard the first few days, a huge change for the players.
Thanks! And yes that's true some players do go on Charlie just to get a different perspective and relax. I think once Able ends a lot of players will go over to Charlie and the Charlie players will see this all first hand soon. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
yeah, 99% of the time there's no malice to able players going over to Charlie, the actual bigger problem is the fact that charlie's player base attacks any vet that dares play on their server, so many charlie shard loyalists are so much more toxic than any able vet I've ever seen so it's very funny that able players are considered the toxic ones
Can one field guns do much damage against an enemies base?
Depends on which field gun it's. Generally though you want to use field guns against infantry or tanks.
@@RobertLovesGames okay
Hey Robert as a new player and as both wars seem to be coming to an end I think it would be helpful to make a video on what start of a war is like and what to expect
This kind of stuff is what made me ultimately decide to not buy foxhole
how do you get the over head camera shots@4:50???
That is from the devs! They post videos like this on their twitter sometimes and I use them in my videos because they looks so cool! Wish I had the dev camera!
nothing like a 10 page essay about how casual he is about a video game.
lol.. Storm regi on Charlie has been holding back 7+ colonial regis since they have moved from able.
Nicely done! Keep up the good fight! You might see even more here soon if Able ends soon!
they're just 5 meters away from tapping cinderwick, trust them
what region? Ive admired the heck out of the Warden players. And this war has been great imho. (Its my first... so I really dont know what a good war is I guess)
which regis?
"Omg, i cant fight against players of same tier...im going to charlie to kill some noobs and feel me like a champion" - a regular Charlie Loser. 🤣🤣🤣
lol sadly some people have this mentality which I don't quite understand.
Appreciate the video! I have to say, I have never had as much fun as I have had this war on Charlie. Met a group of great guys in Red River and we organically created a Regi with a mix of experience levels. Some of us were newer for sure but we also have some vets that wanted to be more involved in planning, building and organizing than you sometimes can on Able. I think some of the issue is that on Able, the large Regi's typically run the show and don't allow any players (Not just new) to be allowed the freedom to help make decisions and be involved with the process as they already have the "Best way" to do things figured out.
I'm glad you mentioned this, its been crazy the past couple days. Its my first war, and seeing Able brush off our colonial efforts on our Charlie server as vets carrying us instead of being legit has been disheartening. I wish my Charlie breathern the best of luck!
To be fair were at the point in alpha where we are just trying to find good fights and make em last as long as possible on the collie side. We're trying to wrangle as many noobs as we can and stick em in whatever roles they wanna learn. I was told as a noob "ignore the queue warning and join able, collies need manpower"
True! I did this last night in reavers pass and was up until 3:00am ha. And yes ignore that que warning every time ha
Able player looking for Charlie opinion here:
So, first off, I think this is appalling. I'm an Able Warden, and we just about have this war finished. I'm in a small clan, but we're all pretty experienced. If once we've won on Able we came over to Charlie as Colonials, not to counter seal club, but to lead, teach and offer guidance to new players facing an unfair situation, would that be helpful?
just stay in able, we don't want able players on charlie
Sure, teaching and helping, great. Being a dick, less so. No one is going to be upset if you come over, help teach new players, give them tools.
Now if your whole group comes over, techs up, grabs "some new people" and then goes and curbstomps with 95% og people and a couple newbies, that's not really the same.
Honestly, the best you could do is just choose a front you want, and fill in any way you'd like. You've got to realize that you have regis and squads that have been leading successful operations on Charlie from the start. They aren't "new." They don't need "guidance." They need people that are going to take advantage of the things these players who have been fighting all day every day on Charle since Day 1 have already worked hard to set up. We've got infrastructure. We've got logi. We've got good tankers, good infantry, and capable navies. We just need people who are going to work with them.
I think that would be really helpful! Sounds like a great plan honestly!
Idk, it’s been a great fight so far in Charlie. It’s my first war, I’m a colonial, ~100hrs. We train our new players on logi and do our best to support each other with medics and supplies. We do have big ops from regiments, but often they include other players who aren’t in those regiments. Doesn’t seem like it’s mismatched right now, unless there is an enormous amount of regiments that joined colonial in recent days that have contributed to pushes. Even so, I still think a lot of our members are taking ownership and trying to contribute to the overall war effort.
I played Charlie from 96-99 and vet stacking isn't always a bad thing. So long as those vets take the time to teach those around them it can be a very positive experience. I lucked out and got picked up by a man named Wafflez. He taught me all about being a partisan and such. It led to the player I am today and without his vet experience being passed onto me, I feel like I'd still be floundering around here and there.
Charlie has been fun this war
Glad to hear that! And glad to see it's still going on! Keep up the good fight!
Please just get the vets out of Charlie. Last night in Stilcan Shelf, a regiment from Able, joined the Colonials in attack against the Wardens. We got destroyed
Sorry to hear this! Sad to say this is probably going to happen more as the Able war comes to an end :/
this is warden propaganda
Charlie is an overflow server for new players during update wars. This whole rivalry started when they named the server something and now its causing people to quit. I started my foxhole journey as a warden on charlie and I hate what is going on. Although my first battle was a high rank gathering a bunch of low ranks to join him while teaching a few of us things.
When I first started playing this game in its early beta phases, it was certainly more friendly/doable to solo. But the truth is you’re better off joining a clan to get the most out of the game. Not every clan is the same so you shouldn’t feel forced to join a sweaty tryhard group
Agreed! I played solo for my first 300 hours or so and loved it. Things did just get a bit easier when I joined a clan though. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
This is my first war playin as a Charlie Collie. The community of players eager to learn and to teach is amazing to see. We recently pulled off a major multi regiment offensive through Endless Shore, although i’m sure some seal clubbers could have been amongst the ranks. We take pride in figuring out tactics and logistics ourselves! Rock and Stone Charlie brothers🤘🏼
Apparently there were two huge able regiments involved in endless offensive, so it was mostly seal clubbing yeah
I really enjoy your content. I played foxhole back in war 99 and quit after getting clubbed. I started late in this current war but I’m seeing the vets around me. I wonder if fix flipping would be an option to correct alpha to Charlie. Make it so these vet players can change the server but they gotta be opposite faction of the alpha.
Didn’t realize that was an ongoing issue, but then again I’ve only ever played on Able, makes sense now that I think about it, seemed odd during war 109 when about halfway through the war that Regis that had been in a hex I was constantly playing on just completely up and left their facility to decay, I just figured they moved hexes due to overcrowding and high msupp usage.
Hopefully the devs server lock players to fix this issue, glad to hear you talking about it Robert. 👍
Yea hopefully we see less and less of this kind of server hopping. And thanks! Just trying to keep people informed on what's going on in the background :D
I'm a Charlie Warden player, this is my first war so I don't really know when we are vet players from Able or just experienced Charlie players. This is just me ranting about my experiences the last few days because even though I'm new to this game I absolutely love it and want to share my experiences.
Ferimor has been fought over many times by now. Two days ago was the first time I was actually around to see us being pushed out of Feirmor (our main base had already fallen but we were still maintaining a presence there when this happened). We were doing fine when four enemy armoured vehicles showed up. I have been in such a situation once before on the same front. That time it led to us having to blow up a bridge we had built maybe an hour ago. Even then the situation had taken some time to stabilise.
This time too we lost a lot of ground initially. We were pushed out of Feirmor and lost a lot o ground in Tomb. I was genuinely thinking that we were about to lose Tomb because we didn't have armour. Though one tank did end up joining the counterattack eventually. Once the intial fast advance of the enemy had stopped due to trenches, to my surprise this time players decided to be more active about dealing with enemy tanks. Some players were encouraging people to swarm the enemy tanks and several people were shooting RPGs. We managed to push them out of Tomb and they were forced to blow up the bridge. Next time we went to the other side I saw signs warning Collie players against rebuilding the bridge just like we had on our side. It felt very satisfying to see those signs and I felt proud of the people on that front, some of which had become familiar names by then even if I didn't talk to them.
Part of the series of events was due to logi. During the previous tank rush the base only had anti tank rifles and some mammons to deal with tanks wheras the second time we had RPGs which people either seem to like using more or they're just more likely to do damage. On our Feirmor foothold we had AT weapons that were unusable which is why we couldn't do anything (There were a lot of grenade launcher greandes but no grenade launcher). Once we got to a base with AT we pushed them back. I like to think that aside from logi the players there had also learned not to panic against tanks and instead deal with them effectively. I know I did. During the last assault I had a good sniping spot so I was using an AT rifle to hold them back but whenever I faced a tank, even if it was one, then I had a tendency to take hide in a hole and try to pick off infantry. If I happened to pick a mammon then the plan got upgraded to hide in a hole and try to throw a grenade. I still do the latter but now I make more of an effort to go to holes closer to the tank instead of waiting for it. I also feel more confident with AT rifles now even when I don't have a perfect spot like i did the previous time.
Overall, despite the relatively short time I have learned a lot aside from what I mentioned and this has been a great experience. I was worried the community might be toxic but I was pleasently surprised. Only seen two instances of players being toxic in the chat but they feel insignifcant compared to the behaviour of the rest of the community. I am going to stick to Charlie for the forseeable future though. I have a lot to learn still and I enjoy the atmosphere here. Maybe some day I'll go to Able and be pleasently surprised there as well but I'm committed to the war in Charlie this time. It is oddly pleasent and comforting to see certain players that have beeen fighting on the same front as me for days even if I never talk to them.
I play Charlie to avoid Able Colonials of this very sort. If I discover we lose the war to any meaningful actions by Able Colonials playing as Wardens on Charlie trying to get us to play for them, I will play Warden on Able instead. Screw these jerks.
They were fucking around in a frigate on charlie lol It's not a conspiracy
Yea this is certainly not the way to go about it. And this will probably happen even more if the Able war ends before the Charlie war ends which is looking very likely.
I at least understand that when the Able war ends both sides will get reinforced by people who want to keep fighting but have no war to participate in anymore otherwise. It's crummy in a sense that whichever server finishes first doesn't get to have their own start to finish contained war, but I don't see a way to avoid it outside of server lock. I am still in favor of that personally, although I am a little concerned it might lead to more alting eventually if people buy extra accounts just to keep playing in a war at all times. Still as you say in the vid Robert the devs have had a long time to make a change like that and haven't, so it seems unlikely at this point.
I wish rather than making a medieval game they would have just released a sequel to this game with a better engine and networking backend that could handle a larger amount of players at once so we could just have one very big server. Ah well, maybe sometime in the future they will do something like that.
bro, vets just switching servers briefly to shitpost with warden equipment is what happened, trust me, there's genuinely no malice behind people doing that lol
just further proof able is the containment server for toxic behavior
I would have to disagree. Which is kind of what I'm trying to say in this video. It's a small minority that make the rest of Able look bad when a majority of us don't condone this behavior.
@@RobertLovesGames you are a prominent member of the community, of course you need to disagree. but we have thousands of players who actively choose to not play on the able server. if the majority of able players weren't the problem, then there wouldn't be thousands of us not wanting to interact with able players.
So I get this and know it's a problem within our community. I guess I just feel like it's more than just "Able players bad" I think there is honestly more to it. I haven't quite figured out what that is yet but when I do you better believe I will be sharing it and trying to fix this division. Appreciate your input on this!
Robert are you sick? ROFL
I am a bit sick lol! You are the first person to notice! Everyone else thought I got a new mic ha!
@@RobertLovesGames haha. i thought it was pretty obvious :P if anyone is curious go back 2 videos and listen to robert's voice than listen on this vid lol
I tried teaching my IRL friends to play foxhole in December 2023, we didnt do any frontline, just make like logi in the Fingers on Charlie. Getting them acclimated to doing logi and driving supplies to the front. Then as the war on Able started to turn, a noticable amount of warden vets logged into Charlie and started seal clubbing. The collies lost like 3 whole hexes in 24 hours. Everyone burned out and my friends swore the game off for life. Absolutely HATE seal clubbing, and sadly there are Foxhole content creators releasing seal clubbing montages on youtube and reddit to this very day. Sadly there is no moderation the devs will take on this, even a +5% increase in the player base is a win to them... instead of the potential +20-30% we see from the steam sales. It is what it is.
Dang :/ You hate to hear stuff like that. And that's really sad to hear! And yea I don't think there is really much we can do about this right now sadly. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
Are there any large scale logistic operation squads on Charlie, Wardens?
Not that I'm aware of. But there are a ton on the Able side. DM me on discord if you need help finding a group :D
Baker and Charlie are not cannon and therefore aren't real. Seal clubbing is easy on Able if you're Royal enough.
7:44 HEY THATS US SEAL CLUBBING RIGHT NOW LOL
- Finch
lol! Thanks for the ride in the BT was fun!
Been playing and started at Charlie, love the server and don’t mind the stalemate until the Colonials came. I kinda don’t want to join Able, and content with playing Charlie
That's great to hear! And unfortunately at some point Able will be the only server left for part of the year. But I respect your decision to only want to play on Charlie!
As a member of SIMP we have gone back to Charlie aka our roots to recruit and teach the new folks the game. Don’t let a few bad apples ruin your experience when you can change that for yourself and more experienced peeps like my self and others can teach you
As someone who has played Foxhole for a little over 2 weeks. I personally joined Charlie because it looked like Able were full, and i did not want to spend the fist evening playing foxhole sitting in a queue. And while i were fully aware before i started playing that i can swap between them whenever i want, i've decided to stick with the war in Charlie until it ends. (And i still have a lot to learn)
I joined Charlie as a new player this war at about day 10 on the Warden side, and it started off quite even. We soon gained a small advantage at about day 20 or so, and held that advantage. But once the Colonials on Able started losing decisively, it became noticeably harder to make advancements and hold areas on Charlie. I think we lost about 2-3 victory points in just a day or two. It really seemed like Collie vets were transferring over. It was alright at first but a few days later it started to get disheartening and annoying. I'm probably just going to wait until Able starts war 120 so I can not only avoid the Charlie drama but also experience what it is like during the start of a war.
Charlie loyalist here. I started recently so I am a noob but I don't think i'll ever leave Charlie for Able. I'd rather participate in making history here than join a hundred wars in on Able. What i would love to see is more independent persistence or fundamental diffrence between the servers. Give us a reason to play both, ya know?
The game doesnt have enough players to always have other servers up and expecting people to play both wars is way to unreasonable, logi on one server alone is near a second job, next war is relic war and this war had more island resources + starting borders change so differnt wars do have differnces
@@thejimjimjim7 maintence supplies alone would kill the average man if asked to do alone and now one has to do on both servers out of his own free will? You would need to summon the king of unemployment for such a task
I started the game a week ago on Charlie, if such a thing happened I don't think it really occurred or even benefited the Wardens. Even with vets, you got a lot of newer players who are just going with the flow of things, not really fully understanding the depths of what they are doing or what they can do. That imbalance creates natural holes similar to have true wars can have. There have been times where we make pushes, but instantly get cracked back on, which I think would be tackled easier if there was a true flood of experienced players all of a sudden.
But then again, maybe I came AFTER things began to balance out.
Based on what is going on right now, instead of flooding able, Charlie is about to be flooded, which will create an interesting situation.
Everytime i got on baker or charlie server i choose the wrong side and got rekt by vet stack faction,
it's more than frustating because you overun by player knowing how to play, so they encircle town, cut logi, destroy as partisan everything without contest because new player don't QRF or react properly for each situation.
So the rear and logi get rekt then frontline get constantly push and humilated. One side war is very frustating, you don't even write "F" at all because there is no win battle and just loose.
This is maybe okay if you play 2 hours sometime but if you invest yourself in this kind of war, you just loose everything you build or try to protect by a bunch of high rank which destroy you 10v1 because no one QRF and then troll you.
On the current charlie war, i spawn in marban hollow, saw a bunch of low rank trying to defend some concrete bunker and get crush by 4 SPG, 5 Spatha and 1 Superheavy and was getting overrun by a bunch of high rank infantery clearing concrete all the way without even one guy repairing. I just alt F4 and was pretty happy to be just a visitor and not currently invest in this war.
Im a charlie new player this is my first war but I find the game fun and thank you for getting me interested in the game.
Nice! Welcome to Foxhole! No problem glad you are enjoying it :D
I think any kind of server locking would cause issues, considering that the point of the second server is to take over traffic from the first one, but also it provides an alternative war for you to join.
I do not think much can be done about this. At most you could put a "limit" on the amount of high-ranked for each faction, enforcing it similarly to pops.
True. And I agree I don't think much can be done as well. As I mentioned I don't think the devs would do anything like this but I did want to share what I think some possible solutions could be. Thanks for your thoughts on this!
So why leave the option to switch factions?
a "boot" camp severs maybe? on a smaller map maybe with shorter war cycles. Then being "warned" on loading when you hit a number of hours you a forced out to a main sever? 🤷
@@Paios Some may want to be able to play the other side to try out new strategies and so on, that can only be done by one of the factions.
Faction switching should only be not allowed for the same server.
Is... is that a new mic? :o
lol nope just a soar throat! But according to you all I should think about having a soar throat more often :D
Sadly we were 5 players in Loch Mor for hours yesterday when it's a frontline hex. But I look at steam report and we had 2.5k players connected.
Oof! You hate to see that! Was this on Able? Could be because the hex is almost taken?
I actually think I have a decent idea for how to fix server swapping for this. In game lore there is the hanged men faction they have lower pops and less effective tech as well as are basically pirates. I think if you server swap before a war on the primary server you’ve played you can only joint that 3rd faction and they have lower priority to get into server than coli or warden. To reduce work on devs make the tech from both factions the default for them but you don’t get both you get them peace meal (generally the worse one so like colli navel warden tanks) this also fits into the lore since they’re a deserter faction. To make them stronger each faction can’t see where on the map they have bases they need to actually search for them to destroy them.
PLEASE MORE CHARLIE CONTENT! Not enough people telling our story! This war has been great! Learning this is happening though, terrible.
I kinda agree with your solutions especially with the server locking but alt accounts are an already existing problem
True! I feel like alting on secondary servers can be even worse sometimes. At least from what people have told me.
Plus what happens if I reach a higher rank and I’m unable to play with my friends on the Charlie server because of it, some solid suggestions but a lot of grey areas imo.
Collies Wardens thinking Able guys going to Charlie to take Clahstra and Saltbrook, while in fact it's just MOSES, Zeh, SIMP, CHAD, FANI, VFC, MMM, and more CHC regiments loll. Skill issue, shame
Oh is that what’s happening on Charlie? I thought it was just demoralization affecting the front.
The one thing that I have heard when Charlie Opened up. That it was a LARP server. They had two official discord servers. One was a Serious discord but unfortunately half of the people didn't like it. Due to them taking the game too serious for Colonials so half of them left to make a new LARP discord. People who built stuff based on how it would have been done back in WW1/WW2. The other thing was alts from Able when the war ended / those vets who wanted a break of the main war on able. They just dicked around and served no real purpose to help win the war. It was the later end of the wars on Charlie before they officially closed them. We saw the seal clubbing. Overall from Colonials I have talked with loved Charlie for the not so serious taking of wars or actually trying to win them. Make wars more accurate to what they would have been throughout history. Also the discord that is used is nothing like the Able Discord. The stories that I have from the times that Charlie was active at the start of the major update when the game went out of Early Access to version 1.0. we're interesting because there's only about two or three regiments that would actively try to fight and win the war with very strategic tactics. The rest were too busy in the back lines or working on train lines that didn't serve a purpose
I started playing about a week ago and didn't realize I was on Charlie, and picked Warden cause I liked the color blue. And It was a great time learning how to do basic logi, but I'm still getting used to combat since aiming always felt off for me, so most of the time I play Medic. I hope to play on Able one day but I didn't join when I realized how to change servers because I thought it was too late into the war to join.
Hope you enjoyed your time in the ROYAL BT line and we agree on not seal clubbing. Its a waste of time and if all these regiments hopping servers just stayed and kept going then the chances of the war being closer and a possible come back could be possible.
Would say solution one seems the better of the two but also don't know the programming required.
It was a good time! And I completely agree! If you have the energy and time to play Foxhole I really don't quite understand going to another server to play to "relax". Thanks for your thoughts on this!
At this point collies are just delaying the inevitable, this is my third war and honestly it's been my favourite one, the mine fields were a lot of fun, but a pain in some cases.
Well no one likes to give up which is something I love about Foxhole :D We will fight until the very end! And yes those mines have been a lot of fun! Pretty proud that I've only stepped on one so far!
THEORY: Devman is not paying attention to everything that is happening "now"... because they are cooking r2 server engine for airborne update...
I wanna see charlie become a new map tied in with able so we get a true world war.Also charlie is where i run around as colonial lol (screwed that edit)
That would be cool! If it was a new map everyone would want to play there at first though as well ha.
It would but it would spread things out a bit.... update wars are a microcosm of nonsense cause all the idiots come out of the woodwork.
COLLIES ARE STILL ON TOP
Woo!!!
to any Able coli player whom done this, iff we lose on Charlie ill join the wardens on Able to end able-colies faster.
lol! You might see that happen more as Able war comes to an end :D
Loving the game but I'll never understand this weird server meta.
It's always strange this time of year when we have multiple servers. Way less server drama when we are just back to Able.
ngl I started out two wars on collies and now I'm a warden in Charlie and I hope they keep it cause Im starting to hate able
What do you hate about Able specifically if you don't mind me asking? As I mentioned one of my goals right now is to reduce the division between the two servers.
If your problem is with big clans, the only immediate suggestion is to fight in the sea lanes/coast. At least in East Sea where I’m located it isint congested with mega clans that eat up every resource
@@Lem0nsquid or just play charlie and enjoy the game
@@CsDeathshadow sure, but as mentioned in the video, there appears to be a problem with veteran sweatlord clans moving over to smash the opposing side
@@RobertLovesGames so when I play able I’m not as free to carry out my own wish’s , it’s mainly the toxic nature of the communication on able servers, on Charlie everyone is nice and understanding and the only bad experience I had was joining the clan “storm” and they yelled at me and sucked teeth when I was adding a stair case on a bunker, overall I join able at night time when less players are on Charlie sometimes and I do like the bigger battles but at the same time I just get a sense of reward on Charlie when I push up with smokes and gas’s and lead men to push ( nicely) I been able to Tank on Charlie which is something I wouldn’t do on able since the last time I tanked I was getting yelled at by vets in a trench to the point I hopped up and said “then you drive it” it’s not like I’m a total noob either which leads me to believe other more newer players are either scared shitless to do anything other than run and gun, I hope the community can realize not everyone even knew about this game 2 years ago and that a lot of the information we get to learn is from the community. I have took to navel attacks on Charlie which on able I feel like I could never really do or consider volunteering myself to load, drive or plan one beforehand. Able just gives me a sour taste when I hop on now and again I used to be a collie but in my opinion wardens are the type to grab ppl and go on a mission and on the way teach players and it really helps new players learn that there’s more to do other than run and gun and that’s the secret
On why I think they are winning cause I’m still collie on able and they for the life of me don’t have ( solo or non regiment) players organized and engaged
In warfare it just feels like I’m grabbing a boom stick and running to my death. Sorry for the bashing but these are the problems and tbh I didn’t know about seal clubs or that Charlie would go away and that makes me sad as a staff Sergeant with only 200 hours ( I play all day )
It is my first war in foxhole and i am playing on charlie, personaly i did not have any issues. There are so many greate peaple in this community
Glad to hear that! Thanks for sharing your experience with this!
Charlie is such a shit show full of people using RPGs on infantry like it costs nothing.
lol! Sometimes you gotta fire the desperate RPG if you think you are doing to die anyways :D
I think server locking is the best way to go about it.
Think it would be worth trying!
I honestly don't mind whenever able. That's come over to the Charlie server. Because it helps the learning curve on what's going. Foxhole is such a big game and that the learning curve is extreme sometimes. That being said, I do believe that they should have to have it locked after. You spend a certain amount of time in a shard.
The game defaults new people to charlie so most of them don't even know what's happening.
True!
Great video as always!
Your voice sounds a bit off? You good dude?
Thank you! And I've been sick this week with a sore throat! Thanks for asking! I'm starting to feel a bit better so hopefully my voice will sound better for the video this Friday :D
I think the devs should rather focus on a single server players will naturally spread out to avoid queues, they could also expand the map. I find that the core aspect of foxhole, a shared persistent world, is diluted by having more than a single world.
Switch back and forth until OCDT. Then you need to play on Able. Those with more than 500 hours are restricted from Charlie. When selecting a shard, it should have a brief explanation of what each of them are for (Able for us sweaty try-hards, Charlie for learning the game). Siege Camp should also have Ambassadors from Able on Charlie, vetted Community Members who are on Charlie to help train new players and teach them all the tricks and bugs/ features. Finally, a system that connects the same regis on Able and Charlie so that new players can be mentored on Charlie and then brought over to Able once they want to/ rank out.
It only took like a week of logi to hit ocdt tho, like... basically zero effort.
i agree with this. As a new player i got absolutely destroyed by more experienced players in Charlie and i don't feel like playing the game anymore. Although i love the concept of the game it just sucks feeling so one sided sometimes.
The business solution would be to rank lock Charlie. If people want to go seal clubbing, they should be buying smurf accounts. If people want to use the plebs in their power fantasy, they should at least be paying for the experience. They're going to be terrible human beings regardless. The devs may as well exploit their malice.
This is my first war, I have only played on Charlie and don't think I will ever want to be on Able. The fact that people in the game think that they should be able to own things like resource nodes is wild. The game has an awesome concept and I followed it for a while but I don't think I want to deal with toxic clan behavior. I raided in wow at a high level for a while and that can get toxic. I don't need more of that energy. I'm too old and don't have enough time to game anymore to waste it with toxic petty stuff.