Be kind be charitable. Remember, you are the bearer of truth - no need to become flustered. The minute you depart from charity, you've lost. Just my 2 cents.
For myself, this works well with people I don't see frequently. But not so much for people who approach me because I'm catholic. I pretty much practice what's good for the goose......
REALLY appreciate your wisdom and genuine love in representing and sharing the catholic faith with others. You are an inspiration and I pray to the Lord that should apologetics be in my future, I be as capable. Thank you Jimmy and CAs! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
The admonition to speak well but to place our reliance on God for conversion is exactly what I needed to hear today. I have some very dear friends and family whose hearts are seeking, but have some real struggles with faith and the ethics of life. Of course, I stress myself out by feeling responsible. The recollection to humility and faith has helped to settle my own heart. Also, the reminder that I should not seek to have people change their opinions in front of me is also an important consideration of kindness. Thank you, Jimmy.
While James White is formidable in some ways, he comes off more as a "crashing cymbal". Jimmy is much more charitable in his style which stands in stark contrast to Mr White. Thank you, Jimmy!
GOD BLESS YOU J. A. It's amazing how our Lord arrange everything, I've been learning more about my faith which I was born from you, Sam Shamoun than i knew it in whole my life. I don't mean to say that priests aren't good in knowledge, but probably they teach us core and basic things because thats suitable for children's and later when we grow up most of us stay on that level. Tnx 🙏❤️✝️
@@savestheday6648 I do that when they are trying to lead people astray. Jesus prayed for unity. I am working in a very very modest way to bring it about.
The early church never defended the church, because they understood that Jesus is the Chief Shepherd; the Bridegroom always defends the bride. However, the early church did contend for the faith, within the context of the Gospel of salvation in Christ Jesus.
@@dannisivoccia2712 ok, in Acts they don't let Saul meet the disciples until Barnabas vouches for him. So that's physical defense, you wouldn't want to give a potential persecutor more knowlege than they already have. If you were asking for defending the doctrine of the church, then Paul does so in his letters, like Ephesians.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription In Acts 9:26, Saul wanted to associate with the disciples, but they were afraid of him; believing him not being a disciple. The passage was not in defense of the church, but showing an uncertainty that the disciples had about Saul. They were not certain that Saul had been truly converted. In 2 Corinthians, the Apostle Paul defends himself, his ministry, and his apostleship before that church. In Galatians, Paul defends His authority as an Apostle. In Ephesians, Paul gives much instruction on many items pertaining to life and godliness in Christ Jesus.
@@dannisivoccia2712 yeah, I don't sense a disagreement here. Saul waw kept at a distance from the church, to protect the church, until he got vouched for.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription 1546 Council of Trent declared imputed righteousness is anathema,it has never been rescinded. If so,please correct my error,thanks.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription it was 1547 (sorry), Council of Trent ,session 6 on justification,canon 11. “ If anyone says men are justified either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ or by the sole remission of sins,excluding grace and charity which is poured into their hearts by the Holy Spirit and inheres in them,or also that the grace which justifies us is only the favour of God,let them be anathema.” This has never been rescinded,the RCC has a false gospel and people need to turn to the true Gospel.
@@chrismachin2166 Ok, so as you can see the anathema is on a person, not on a doctrine. What this canon says is that everyone that holds to this mistaken view of justification *can* be anathemized. With that out the way, this denies imputed righteousness ALONE, not imputed righteousness in general. It's the same issue prots have with the Bible. Bible alone is false, but the Bible is true. James White could not enter the church until he admits there's more to the spiritual growth and flourishing of the christian than imputed righteousness. Rejoice, God changes you!
Lectors' pronunciation guides aren't great, unfortunately. It's pronounced Ba'al in Hebrew. There's the consonant ayin right in the middle of it, which splits it in two syllables. As normal in Hebrew, the stress is on the second syllable, and because the second syllable begins with an ayin, you turn on your vocal cords when beginning that syllable.
Mr. Akin is a theologically conservative Catholic. I am, too, but I belong to the Catholic Traditionalist movement. That makes me wonder what he means by "the Christian faith." For me, the Christian faith is Catholicism because I think Christ founded it. He didn't invent Protestantism. How can I or another Catholic talk as if the Christian faith includes doctrines that can't be true together. Protestantism suggests Religious Indifferentism, a heresy Blessed Pope Pius IX condemns in his Syllabus of Errors. Religious indifferentists believe everyone has a God-given right to practice any religion human reason recommends to him. Sometimes I meet Protestants who join other Protestant churches because they they disagree with what their current pastors teach. Those people usually know much more than I do. But their disagreements convinced me that I should always remain Catholic. In my opinion, today's religiously indifferent ecumenism is immoral because it suggests religious Indifferentism. It hints that no one needs to be Catholic since his religion is good enough to get him to heaven. Catholic Answers, Inc., Mr. Akin's employer, published a shocking booklet I discovered Dr. Robert Sungenis's apostolate. That book suggested what the writer thought a Catholic should say if a Muslim asked him what Christian denomination to join. That author said something like "Choose the best one for you." I woudn't do that. Instead, I'd ask the Muslim to let me explain why I believe he should be Catholic. I don't mean to seem tribal. On the other hand, Protestant ministers and youth groups I belonged to persuaded me that Catholicism is the only religion God wants anyone to practice. In Mystici Corporis Christi, Pope Pius XII writes, "103. As you know, Venerable Brethren, from the very beginning of Our Pontificate, We have committed to the protection and guidance of heaven those who do not belong to the visible Body of the Catholic Church, solemnly declaring that after the example of the Good Shepherd We desire nothing more ardently than that they may have life and have it more abundantly.[194] Imploring the prayers of the whole Church We wish to repeat this solemn declaration in this Encyclical Letter in which We have proclaimed the praises of the "great and glorious Body of Christ"[195] and from a heart overflowing with love We ask each and every one of them to correspond to the interior movements of grace, and to seek to withdraw from that state in which they cannot be sure of their salvation.[196] For even though by an unconscious desire and longing they have a certain relationship with the Mystical Body of the Redeemer, they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church. Therefore may they enter into Catholic unity and, joined with Us in the one, organic Body of Jesus Christ, may they together with us run on to the one Head in the Society of glorious love.[197] Persevering in prayer to the Spirit of love and truth, We wait for them with open and outstretched arms to come not to a stranger's house, but to their own, their father's home." www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_29061943_mystici-corporis-christi.html Catholics should be tactful and irenic. But since ecumenically vague language can mislead other people, I'll always say exactly what I mean.
There are errors within the christian faith that do not amount to Apostasy. Denying Jesus' divinity is an act of apostasy, while a more minor error like saying there is no ministerial priesthood, while wrong, doesn't make you follow another religion. Keep in mind that online the "traditionalist" tag is used by people who want to publicly dissent from the living magisterium, I'd avoid it if I were you because that attitude goes against canon 212 and Domum Veritatis.
Protestants are Catholics that have separated. Orthodox are Catholics that have separated. The separations happened so long ago that the heirs of these separated Catholics don't remember the graces and truths they once had. They also fear the graces and truths because they have been taught to do so. I won't pretend it's easy to engage with Protestants or Orthodox, but by nature of once being Catholic at one point in time, there are commonalities that we CAN agree on, and go from there. Baptism saves is one. Typically, the Trinity is another one. The Bible being true and authoritative is a big one. They may not believe in other sources of authority and truth, but they do still love, have, and revere God's Word. A good analogy is the ship analogy. Jesus has set sail for a new land at the far side of a wide ocean. He's built the boat big enough to accommodate all of humanity, and it has all the amenities of a functional healthy ship. It has the loading ramp of baptism and confirmation for easy boarding. It has trained staff who have sailed before, as well as a training program for newcomers who want to help sail the ship, these being the angels and saints and then priests and holy orders. It has reliable navigating equipment and a captain, these being the authority structures of the church (Pope and magisterium, Tradition, and the Bible). It even has showers, the sacrament of confession. This is the Catholic ship. Protestants and Orthodox were once passengers, but they decided to abandon ship. They built rafts from materials they could gather onboard, and have set sail as best they can on their own. Some of these rafts are bigger and better built than others. Some, the ones who split from other rafts, are downright unsafe and miserable looking. But in every case they are only afloat because of the materials gathered from Jesus's first ship. Some of these Protestants have been on their raft for so long that they aren't even aware of a ship on the horizon. A lot of them have been to taught to fear the boat because of the original mutiny. Hope this helps
The Christian faith was delivered "once for all" to the members of Christ's faithful (Jude 3). The fullness of the Christian faith is found *only* in the Catholic Church. Other communions share aspects of it, but none have its fullness.
@@JimmyAkin Mr. Akin, I know that Protestants and other Christians agree with the Catholic Church on some points. But as Catholics, we believe that Christ founded Catholicism and the Catholic Church. Still, "the Christian faith" is vague. "The," the definite article, suggests that thre's only one Christian faith. Protestantism suggests the religious indifferentism Blessed Pope Pius IX condemns in his Syllabus of Errors. From my perspective, Catholicism, Lutheranism, Presbyterianism, Methodism, and so forth are different religions. Different people founded those denominations and those denominations disagree on many doctrines. I can't say that a Lutheran and I practice the same religion when official Lutheran doctrines contradict some Catholic ones. If we lump Catholcism together with versions of Protestantism, we produce a logically inconsistent set of doctrines. One inconsistency makes the collection inconsistent. doctrines are logically consistent if and only if they can be true together. Now you know why I'll use the phrase "the Christian faith" only when I mean Catholicism. Please reconsider using ecumenically vauge phrases because they confuse other people. In Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII writes, "27. Some say they are not bound by the doctrine, explained in Our Encyclical Letter of a few years ago, and based on the Sources of Revelation, which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing.[6] Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian faith." If the Catholic Church of Christ, no Protestant denomination is a part of it. Like Msgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton, I know there's a difference between being a Catholic and being in the Catholic Church as a nonmember of it. Suppose I'm a Protestant who intends to do each thing God wants me to do, Then, if God wants me to become a Catholic, I intend implicitly to do that. In that case, Msgr. Fenton would say I'm in the Catholic Church, though I'm not a member of it. If Vatican II means that non-Catholics can get connected to the Catholic Church as nonmembers of it. But there's a major difference between telling me that and claiming that Protestant sects are alternative means of salvation. If they were alternative means of salvation. There's salvation in only the Catholic Church. That's why any person must be connected to her when he dies. Otherwise, he won't reach heaven. When the Catholic teaches that she's the only ark of salvation, does she suggest that she's the only ark in a fleet of ships, though smaller ships in that fleet? Is Unitatis Redintegratio telling is that Protestant sects are, if you will, smaller boats when it claims that: "Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ. The brethren divided from us also use many liturgical actions of the Christian religion. These most certainly can truly engender a life of grace in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community. These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation. It follows that the separated Churches(23) and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church."? www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html#:~:text=For%20the%20Spirit%20of%20Christ,truth%20entrusted%20to%20the%20Church.
Luckily we don’t have to stand on trial to defend atheism or religion. So it’s no need for defending anything if you believe in a religion it’s okay to say so. If you are saner you’re an atheist because the lack of any real evidence. And that’s okay also. I believe that the Bible is way to fragmented to hold credit to the truth. I think it’s some real historical evidence but it seems to be a lot of imagination in it, a little to much. The absence of god is very evident.
What do you mean by fragmented? Also what is real evidence according to you? Is it evidence that convinces you or just evidence itself? Because if it's evidence itself, there are multiple pieces of evidence/arguments for the existence of God. You might not think they are good or that they are not convincing, but they are evidence.
@@Chris-dh3jf well I think I would have to see some miracles performed and or god to show himself to us. I don’t know why if he is all powerful and all knowing. I hardly think I’m alone thinking why if he want the job, but don’t show up. He should at least stop by once a year just to say hi. Well I think it fragmented because in the beginning it about Elohim then it’s just him. First it is an eye for an eye. Then turn the other cheek. It’s clearly not from god it is human. But it contains a lot of wisdom. But let’s call it an old life guide book that’s way outdated.
Systematic theology. A system is also a necessity for understanding. Our human existence is worked out in the necessity for form and function. Catholicism is not a “cult.” We believe in the same God as Protestants and we don’t engage in cult-like methods of deception and mind control. The Catholic Church is very transparent about its teachings and what it expects of its members. Some people may not like those teachings, for various reasons, but everyone knows exactly what they are. We are free to come and go as our free will allows.
Explain your vain comment! Who, what, where, is a cult? You're referring to your beliefs, just as a cult. Don't be naive, showing cowardly your intentions, and or speculation.
The Catholic Church could start by apologising for supporting Hitler before, during, and even after WWII. Don't even start on the way they cover up for and protect child abusers or go back to the Star Chamber or the Inquisition. If there was a devil, he would have created the Catholic Church.
Be kind be charitable. Remember, you are the bearer of truth - no need to become flustered. The minute you depart from charity, you've lost. Just my 2 cents.
For myself, this works well with people I don't see frequently. But not so much for people who approach me because I'm catholic. I pretty much practice what's good for the goose......
REALLY appreciate your wisdom and genuine love in representing and sharing the catholic faith with others. You are an inspiration and I pray to the Lord that should apologetics be in my future, I be as capable. Thank you Jimmy and CAs! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
The admonition to speak well but to place our reliance on God for conversion is exactly what I needed to hear today. I have some very dear friends and family whose hearts are seeking, but have some real struggles with faith and the ethics of life. Of course, I stress myself out by feeling responsible. The recollection to humility and faith has helped to settle my own heart. Also, the reminder that I should not seek to have people change their opinions in front of me is also an important consideration of kindness. Thank you, Jimmy.
While James White is formidable in some ways, he comes off more as a "crashing cymbal". Jimmy is much more charitable in his style which stands in stark contrast to Mr White. Thank you, Jimmy!
Thanks for everything you do, Jimmy!
GOD BLESS YOU J. A.
It's amazing how our Lord arrange everything, I've been learning more about my faith which I was born from you, Sam Shamoun than i knew it in whole my life.
I don't mean to say that priests aren't good in knowledge, but probably they teach us core and basic things because thats suitable for children's and later when we grow up most of us stay on that level.
Tnx
🙏❤️✝️
Thank you Jimmy! You are truly an example and inspiration for how to share and defend the Catholic faith with charity and grace.
Team Akin !
Me too
Jimmy is a gift. I'm really looking forward to you interviewing Irving Finkel! I hope mightily that comes about!
It's exciting everytime you upload a new video, God Bless ✝
I really enjoyed this interview…. I agree with the interviewer…. Jimmy filled me with joy 😊
We Love You, Jimmy💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚
Thank you for this content.
I love the way you talk! ❤❤
Thanks for posting this!
Well all right, Crafty Jimmy.
Zooming in on Jimmy’s tobacco pipes while listening!
Hi Jimmy Akin how long does it take to refrain from being snarky as you mentioned when defending the Faith? Cause it’s not easy🤔😊
You are awesome, sir! You should do film reviews, explaining how the films DO or DON’T live up to Catholic teaching #ChristIsKING #DeusMeusEtOmnia 😊
I must try harder to be kind when arguing with protestants.
Leave the protestants alone, go after Islam please.
@@savestheday6648 I do that when they are trying to lead people astray. Jesus prayed for unity. I am working in a very very modest way to bring it about.
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Awesome
The early church never defended the church, because they understood that Jesus is the Chief Shepherd; the Bridegroom always defends the bride. However, the early church did contend for the faith, within the context of the Gospel of salvation in Christ Jesus.
The early church did defend the church!
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription Prove it from the word of God.
@@dannisivoccia2712 ok, in Acts they don't let Saul meet the disciples until Barnabas vouches for him. So that's physical defense, you wouldn't want to give a potential persecutor more knowlege than they already have.
If you were asking for defending the doctrine of the church, then Paul does so in his letters, like Ephesians.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription
In Acts 9:26, Saul wanted to associate with the disciples, but they were afraid of him; believing him not being a disciple. The passage was not in defense of the church, but showing an uncertainty that the disciples had about Saul. They were not certain that Saul had been truly converted.
In 2 Corinthians, the Apostle Paul defends himself, his ministry, and his apostleship before that church. In Galatians, Paul defends His authority as an Apostle. In Ephesians, Paul gives much instruction on many items pertaining to life and godliness in Christ Jesus.
@@dannisivoccia2712 yeah, I don't sense a disagreement here. Saul waw kept at a distance from the church, to protect the church, until he got vouched for.
Yes I like
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What’s your view of imputed righteousness?
According to the Council of Trent it is anathema?
Maybe working our way to Heaven is the best option?
Name the canon from Trent you're thinking on... Reading it again might give you the answer you're looking for
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription 1546 Council of Trent declared imputed righteousness is anathema,it has never been rescinded. If so,please correct my error,thanks.
@@chrismachin2166 Quote the canon you're thinking about. Like the text. What it says. It's public you know?
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription it was 1547 (sorry), Council of Trent ,session 6 on justification,canon 11.
“ If anyone says men are justified either by the sole imputation of the justice of Christ or by the sole remission of sins,excluding grace and charity which is poured into their hearts by the Holy Spirit and inheres in them,or also that the grace which justifies us is only the favour of God,let them be anathema.”
This has never been rescinded,the RCC has a false gospel and people need to turn to the true Gospel.
@@chrismachin2166 Ok, so as you can see the anathema is on a person, not on a doctrine. What this canon says is that everyone that holds to this mistaken view of justification *can* be anathemized.
With that out the way, this denies imputed righteousness ALONE, not imputed righteousness in general. It's the same issue prots have with the Bible. Bible alone is false, but the Bible is true.
James White could not enter the church until he admits there's more to the spiritual growth and flourishing of the christian than imputed righteousness. Rejoice, God changes you!
Baal is pronounced BAY-uhl in the Lector's Guide to Biblical Pronounciations (updated)
Lectors' pronunciation guides aren't great, unfortunately. It's pronounced Ba'al in Hebrew. There's the consonant ayin right in the middle of it, which splits it in two syllables. As normal in Hebrew, the stress is on the second syllable, and because the second syllable begins with an ayin, you turn on your vocal cords when beginning that syllable.
@@JimmyAkin thank you soooo much!!!
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You can’t debate and cannot defend your position.
What CAN you do ?
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Do you do all the research on Mysterious World? You do so much it must be very time consuming. Do you have time for square dancing?
Mr. Akin is a theologically conservative Catholic. I am, too, but I belong to the Catholic Traditionalist movement. That makes me wonder what he means by "the Christian faith." For me, the Christian faith is Catholicism because I think Christ founded it. He didn't invent Protestantism. How can I or another Catholic talk as if the Christian faith includes doctrines that can't be true together.
Protestantism suggests Religious Indifferentism, a heresy Blessed Pope Pius IX condemns in his Syllabus of Errors. Religious indifferentists believe everyone has a God-given right to practice any religion human reason recommends to him. Sometimes I meet Protestants who join other Protestant churches because they they disagree with what their current pastors teach. Those people usually know much more than I do. But their disagreements convinced me that I should always remain Catholic.
In my opinion, today's religiously indifferent ecumenism is immoral because it suggests religious Indifferentism. It hints that no one needs to be Catholic since his religion is good enough to get him to heaven. Catholic Answers, Inc., Mr. Akin's employer, published a shocking booklet I discovered Dr. Robert Sungenis's apostolate. That book suggested what the writer thought a Catholic should say if a Muslim asked him what Christian denomination to join. That author said something like "Choose the best one for you." I woudn't do that. Instead, I'd ask the Muslim to let me explain why I believe he should be Catholic.
I don't mean to seem tribal. On the other hand, Protestant ministers and youth groups I belonged to persuaded me that Catholicism is the only religion God wants anyone to practice. In Mystici Corporis Christi, Pope Pius XII writes, "103. As you know, Venerable Brethren, from the very beginning of Our Pontificate, We have committed to the protection and guidance of heaven those who do not belong to the visible Body of the Catholic Church, solemnly declaring that after the example of the Good Shepherd We desire nothing more ardently than that they may have life and have it more abundantly.[194] Imploring the prayers of the whole Church We wish to repeat this solemn declaration in this Encyclical Letter in which We have proclaimed the praises of the "great and glorious Body of Christ"[195] and from a heart overflowing with love We ask each and every one of them to correspond to the interior movements of grace, and to seek to withdraw from that state in which they cannot be sure of their salvation.[196] For even though by an unconscious desire and longing they have a certain relationship with the Mystical Body of the Redeemer, they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church. Therefore may they enter into Catholic unity and, joined with Us in the one, organic Body of Jesus Christ, may they together with us run on to the one Head in the Society of glorious love.[197] Persevering in prayer to the Spirit of love and truth, We wait for them with open and outstretched arms to come not to a stranger's house, but to their own, their father's home."
www.vatican.va/content/pius-xii/en/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xii_enc_29061943_mystici-corporis-christi.html
Catholics should be tactful and irenic. But since ecumenically vague language can mislead other people, I'll always say exactly what I mean.
There are errors within the christian faith that do not amount to Apostasy. Denying Jesus' divinity is an act of apostasy, while a more minor error like saying there is no ministerial priesthood, while wrong, doesn't make you follow another religion.
Keep in mind that online the "traditionalist" tag is used by people who want to publicly dissent from the living magisterium, I'd avoid it if I were you because that attitude goes against canon 212 and Domum Veritatis.
Protestants are Catholics that have separated. Orthodox are Catholics that have separated. The separations happened so long ago that the heirs of these separated Catholics don't remember the graces and truths they once had. They also fear the graces and truths because they have been taught to do so.
I won't pretend it's easy to engage with Protestants or Orthodox, but by nature of once being Catholic at one point in time, there are commonalities that we CAN agree on, and go from there. Baptism saves is one. Typically, the Trinity is another one. The Bible being true and authoritative is a big one. They may not believe in other sources of authority and truth, but they do still love, have, and revere God's Word.
A good analogy is the ship analogy. Jesus has set sail for a new land at the far side of a wide ocean. He's built the boat big enough to accommodate all of humanity, and it has all the amenities of a functional healthy ship. It has the loading ramp of baptism and confirmation for easy boarding. It has trained staff who have sailed before, as well as a training program for newcomers who want to help sail the ship, these being the angels and saints and then priests and holy orders. It has reliable navigating equipment and a captain, these being the authority structures of the church (Pope and magisterium, Tradition, and the Bible). It even has showers, the sacrament of confession. This is the Catholic ship.
Protestants and Orthodox were once passengers, but they decided to abandon ship. They built rafts from materials they could gather onboard, and have set sail as best they can on their own. Some of these rafts are bigger and better built than others. Some, the ones who split from other rafts, are downright unsafe and miserable looking.
But in every case they are only afloat because of the materials gathered from Jesus's first ship. Some of these Protestants have been on their raft for so long that they aren't even aware of a ship on the horizon. A lot of them have been to taught to fear the boat because of the original mutiny.
Hope this helps
The Christian faith was delivered "once for all" to the members of Christ's faithful (Jude 3). The fullness of the Christian faith is found *only* in the Catholic Church. Other communions share aspects of it, but none have its fullness.
The RCC is apostate
If there are any Believers in the ‘Catholic Church’ it is in spite of RCC dogma; not because of it …. 😢
@@JimmyAkin Mr. Akin, I know that Protestants and other Christians agree with the Catholic Church on some points. But as Catholics, we believe that Christ founded Catholicism and the Catholic Church. Still, "the Christian faith" is vague. "The," the definite article, suggests that thre's only one Christian faith.
Protestantism suggests the religious indifferentism Blessed Pope Pius IX condemns in his Syllabus of Errors. From my perspective, Catholicism, Lutheranism, Presbyterianism, Methodism, and so forth are different religions. Different people founded those denominations and those denominations disagree on many doctrines.
I can't say that a Lutheran and I practice the same religion when official Lutheran doctrines contradict some Catholic ones. If we lump Catholcism together with versions of Protestantism, we produce a logically inconsistent set of doctrines. One inconsistency makes the collection inconsistent. doctrines are logically consistent if and only if they can be true together. Now you know why I'll use the phrase "the Christian faith" only when I mean Catholicism. Please reconsider using ecumenically vauge phrases because they confuse other people.
In Humani Generis, Pope Pius XII writes, "27. Some say they are not bound by the doctrine, explained in Our Encyclical Letter of a few years ago, and based on the Sources of Revelation, which teaches that the Mystical Body of Christ and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing.[6] Some reduce to a meaningless formula the necessity of belonging to the true Church in order to gain eternal salvation. Others finally belittle the reasonable character of the credibility of Christian faith." If the Catholic Church of Christ, no Protestant denomination is a part of it.
Like Msgr. Joseph Clifford Fenton, I know there's a difference between being a Catholic and being in the Catholic Church as a nonmember of it. Suppose I'm a Protestant who intends to do each thing God wants me to do, Then, if God wants me to become a Catholic, I intend implicitly to do that. In that case, Msgr. Fenton would say I'm in the Catholic Church, though I'm not a member of it. If Vatican II means that non-Catholics can get connected to the Catholic Church as nonmembers of it.
But there's a major difference between telling me that and claiming that Protestant sects are alternative means of salvation. If they were alternative means of salvation. There's salvation in only the Catholic Church. That's why any person must be connected to her when he dies. Otherwise, he won't reach heaven. When the Catholic teaches that she's the only ark of salvation, does she suggest that she's the only ark in a fleet of ships, though smaller ships in that fleet?
Is Unitatis Redintegratio telling is that Protestant sects are, if you will, smaller boats when it claims that:
"Moreover, some and even very many of the significant elements and endowments which together go to build up and give life to the Church itself, can exist outside the visible boundaries of the Catholic Church: the written word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, and visible elements too. All of these, which come from Christ and lead back to Christ, belong by right to the one Church of Christ.
The brethren divided from us also use many liturgical actions of the Christian religion. These most certainly can truly engender a life of grace in ways that vary according to the condition of each Church or Community. These liturgical actions must be regarded as capable of giving access to the community of salvation.
It follows that the separated Churches(23) and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church."?
www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/documents/vat-ii_decree_19641121_unitatis-redintegratio_en.html#:~:text=For%20the%20Spirit%20of%20Christ,truth%20entrusted%20to%20the%20Church.
Luckily we don’t have to stand on trial to defend atheism or religion. So it’s no need for defending anything if you believe in a religion it’s okay to say so. If you are saner you’re an atheist because the lack of any real evidence. And that’s okay also. I believe that the Bible is way to fragmented to hold credit to the truth. I think it’s some real historical evidence but it seems to be a lot of imagination in it, a little to much. The absence of god is very evident.
There is no evidence for atheism, it's actually been shown that it is *impossible* for atheism to be true.
What do you mean by fragmented? Also what is real evidence according to you? Is it evidence that convinces you or just evidence itself? Because if it's evidence itself, there are multiple pieces of evidence/arguments for the existence of God. You might not think they are good or that they are not convincing, but they are evidence.
Why do my replies keep getting deleted?
@@Chris-dh3jf well I think I would have to see some miracles performed and or god to show himself to us. I don’t know why if he is all powerful and all knowing. I hardly think I’m alone thinking why if he want the job, but don’t show up. He should at least stop by once a year just to say hi. Well I think it fragmented because in the beginning it about Elohim then it’s just him. First it is an eye for an eye. Then turn the other cheek. It’s clearly not from god it is human. But it contains a lot of wisdom. But let’s call it an old life guide book that’s way outdated.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription I don’t know but I see this one comment from you.
Jimmy Akin has a dry sense of humour.
Just like any cult, you have to have a system to keep the propaganda going.
Systematic theology.
A system is also a necessity for understanding. Our human existence is worked out in the necessity for form and function.
Catholicism is not a “cult.” We believe in the same God as Protestants and we don’t engage in cult-like methods of deception and mind control. The Catholic Church is very transparent about its teachings and what it expects of its members. Some people may not like those teachings, for various reasons, but everyone knows exactly what they are.
We are free to come and go as our free will allows.
@@iggyantiochYou are a member of a sacrificial blood cult. Creepy.
Explain your vain comment! Who, what, where, is a cult? You're referring to your beliefs, just as a cult. Don't be naive, showing cowardly your intentions, and or speculation.
What denomination or church do you belong to?
Jesus started the Catholic church
In Pope Francis we trust,and his henchmen waiting to carry on his progressive message.
If you want to call the Gospel "progressive", go ahead. Pope Francis is the Vicar of Christ, you should not oppose his office and teachings.
@@tafazziReadChannelDescription ..the RCC false gospel is!
@@chrismachin2166 Not an interesting comment tbh
You have to be clever because it's hard to defend something that's complete BS.
Have you just defended whatever you may or may not believe in?
@@cindiloowhoo1166 Did it sound like a defense?
You mean complete BS like atheism?
The Catholic Church could start by apologising for supporting Hitler before, during, and even after WWII. Don't even start on the way they cover up for and protect child abusers or go back to the Star Chamber or the Inquisition. If there was a devil, he would have created the Catholic Church.
Middle schooler spotted
Awesome