Nirvana explains why they turned down the movie 'Singles'
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Kurt Cobain, Krist Novoselic and Dave Grohl explain why they didn't want to participate on the 1992 movie "Singles".
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Cameron Crowe told Rolling Stone in May 2017:
I think the only people who were part of it originally and then pulled out were Nirvana, for a number of reasons. Part of it was maybe not wanting to be part of the crowd, and then maybe the other part was that they had been getting hit on by everybody at that point. But I heard later that Kurt and Courtney snuck in to the premiere, that somebody let them in through the exit door at the back of the theater, and that they came in and watched it. I always thought that was pretty great, that that night, Kurt Cobain was also in the room.
Rolling Stone: Was there a particular song of his that you intended to use?
Cameron Crowe: I really liked "Immodium," and I wanted to use that. That was the one that I thought belonged in the movie. ... We were working towards it and I think I might have sent them a videocassette when Kurt was in Hawaii, I remember that. There was a time when we were just trying to figure out which of the songs would work. And then I found this cassette the other day in a box of stuff from Singles, when we were putting the expanded album together, and it said, "Nevermind: Early Mixes." ... So we were on track to have Nirvana in the movie too. I love that he saw the movie at the first possible moment.
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Cameron Crowe: I think the only people who were part of it originally and then pulled out were Nirvana, for a number of reasons. Part of it was maybe not wanting to be part of the crowd, and then maybe the other part was that they had been getting hit on by everybody at that point. But I heard later that Kurt and Courtney snuck in to the premiere, that somebody let them in through the exit door at the back of the theater, and that they came in and watched it. I always thought that was pretty great, that that night, Kurt Cobain was also in the room.
Rolling Stone: Was there a particular song of his that you intended to use?
Cameron Crowe: I really liked "Immodium," and I wanted to use that. That was the one that I thought belonged in the movie. ... We were working towards it and I think I might have sent them a videocassette when Kurt was in Hawaii, I remember that. There was a time when we were just trying to figure out which of the songs would work. And then I found this cassette the other day in a box of stuff from Singles, when we were putting the expanded album together, and it said, "Nevermind: Early Mixes." ... So we were on track to have Nirvana in the movie too. I love that he saw the movie at the first possible moment.
www.rollingstone.com/music/features/cameron-crowe-on-the-singles-soundtrack-grunge-beginnings-w482423
I wish they would have been in the movie.
for those who don't know, "Immodium" was an early - and obviously - temporary title for "Breed".
@@exdemocrat9038I don't. It was cheesy.
@@cd3949the movie itself isn’t that great but the soundtrack is a collection of some of the best bands to ever come out of that era.
@@cd3949 so? It's okay to be cheesy sometimes. Life doesn't always have to be cool and serious
Ahh the early 90s. When Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden ruled music 🤟
I wish I was there.
They still do, my friend!
@@tngrrl73 yes they do 🤙
Smashing Pumpkins, Jane’s Addiction, Sonic Youth…
@@lupowins love Janes Addiction
3 dudes and a baby.
Fiddygd Gaming That sums up the beginning of the “Hangover”.
And that is so kewl. 😎👍
Id watch this movie
Much the same as the Nevermind photo shoot
It’s crazy that the baby is 30 now.
"A few years down the road, it just becomes kinda ridiculous".. Very true, but a few decades later its an awesome, nostalgic portret of history.
The irony here is hilarious.
Nirvana was totally Citizen Dick.
Lol yup
HAHA
I think he was less narcissistic than Matt Dillon's character though.
Singles is a Time Capsule, to those who grew up then...
Frances Bongo Cobain
Lolz
Could you imagine Kurt sticking his head out the back of the hatchback when the windows blew out and said "nevermind"
If that had been pitched to him he would've taken the role.
Ok wtf, I just watched Singles and looked up every version of the soundtrack, and what he said was completely untrue! They did not hire a cover band! That is complete bullshit!
You don't see the humour in you, actually looking this up, do you? 😏
@@BleedingRabbit79 I looked it up after having watched the movie and not having heard any version of a Nirvana song. I figured it must've been on some soundtrack deluxe edition or some shit but nope. I wasn't trying to debunk Kurt, it just happened on accident.
Hence the reason why Kurt said he heard it in the rumour mill
Besides it only being a rumor , there like a small chance it was cut , ya know ?
I’m so sorry you chose to watch that shitty movie. Soundtrack is good, but plot is abysmal
cute how great a Daddy he's being in the interview
Too bad that didn’t last. 💥
I laughed so hard when Kurt said “It’s a Rock and Roll movie with heart” Lololol!!!!
I was obsessed with Nirvana when I was a teen and got burnt out on them to the point that I don’t really enjoy their music anymore BUT I still come back to some of their old interviews. One thing I’ll say is that they’re very chill guys from what I can tell and even if they weren’t into something, they never totally ripped on things that they weren’t fond of.
Even when they were asked about their beef with Pearl Jam and said they didn’t care for their music, they still said Eddie was a nice guy. It kinda set an example of how I wanted to be with my band. You’re asked to do a lot of things you don’t want, even if you’re a small local band, wether that’s playing with acts you don’t care for or whatever but you can still be a decent person about it.
Same for me. But let me tell you, one of these days I put on Bleach after some years without really listening to Nirvana and it felt like the first time. I felt so young. And I was like “that’s why I love them!”
Their music is great after not hearing them purposely for some reason
Whatever the beef was, Eddie always showed them respect and said good things about them in interviews. Now that I think about it, anytime I see or hear Eddie, he's giving props and showing respect to all bands and musicians.
Same, it’s easy to get burned out when they only have like 4 albums.
i am the same but only with nirvana... aic, soundgarden are timeless but nirvana just gets old
Well, they missed being part of one of the greatest soundtracks in rock' 'n' roll history. In spirit or in real the greatest were there, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, Led Repelling, Chris Cornell, The Beatles, Pearl Jam and so many others. Kurt was an awesome songwriter, but he was too critical at times.
He made the right decision. The movie is cringey and exploitative.
@@dewilew2137 The movie was a tepid love story set in the background of a cultural phenomenon. The artists weren't asked to be something they aren't, and the movie and soundtrack helped introduce a few bands to kids who maybe only knew one or two of them from MTV... not sure I would call it exploitation.
Kurt had ideals. Most people don't. That's why it seems the way it does to you.
Kurt was always saying "No" to ppl.
Managers: "Hey wanna tour with Guns n Roses/Metallica?"...Kurt: "Nahh"
Managers: "Wanna do Lollapalooza?! We could make a shit ton of moneyyyy!"...Kurt: "No"
Managers: "Hey, Wanna be featured in this new movie project called 'Singles' Everyone from Seattle's doing it"...Kurt: "No thanks"
he didn't say no to Geffen and a big label contract tho. rip. my first love
Managers: “hey do you want a gourmet chef to join you on the tour?”
Kurt: hotdog & macaroni :)
Courtney: Wanna have a threesome with a Brazilian model?
Kurt: Nah
Bummer to hear 3 guys trashing a movie they haven’t even seen, it comes across as sour grapes. Chris Cornell, Eddie Vedder and Jeff & Stone from Pearl Jam all seemed to have a blast playing parodies of themselves, not to mention Tim Burton’s hilarious cameo as a horrible artsy film director. The humor of Singles is a lot like Spinal Tap, musicians making fun of themselves in a cheeky way. Nirvana always seemed a little too serious for this sort of thing, so it’s probably best that they sat this one out.
Kurt was always playing it like he was too cool for everyone else.
Dave and Krist are definitely down for that sort of thing cause they’ve always been goofy but Kurt was never a very goofy guy and the fact that he’s the frontman, the decisions for the band are made in a lot less easy going fashion
Most people trash things they don't know about. I believe they genuinely didn't care about it as I didn't even though I lived/live in Seattle area and went to shows and clubs in Seattle at that time.
Agreed. He got into the depressed rock star thing too much. Never dawned on him you could actually have fun doing it too, which Dave totally got.
My counterpoint to that would be they did let Weird Al parody them and artists I felt would be too serious (namely Rage Against the Machine) allowed it.
While others have shown how seriously they take themselves in denying him: Eminem, Led Zeppelin, Prince, amongst others
Loved the movie except for a 'grungy" Dillon, seemed soo fukkin lame.
Says the guy who used to call MTV complaining they were not showing "Smells like..." clip enough times... Sometimes Kurt was just an asshole
Where did you get that info
I like his music, but you’re so right. The fact that he abandoned his wife and child is unforgivable
Nirvana is totally the Gen X Beatles... I can totally see John Lennon saying that he didn't want to be part of a cliche love movie too in a weird way.
Not totally the same but Nirvana was already big by the time Singles came out so its not like they would have needed it.
Ironic that Lennon was actually a movie star at some point
Yeah, no, Lennon always wanted to be famous and recognized. Kurt too but only pretends he doesn’t. That is why he is a dickhead
The Beatles did make movies though
@@rumblebird9888 but then, they were protagonists
Don't compare nirvana with the Beatles please ... Nirvana were never close
Kurt is the embodiment of every person that response to your statements with the word...actually
ya, always different from what you say, even if its right lol
Haha true. I love Kurt but he did seem like an asshole
Should have done it but it's cool
Maybe its nostalgia, but I have watched and re-watched Singles over a dozen times and I still love that movie. I watched it recently in 2022 and I STILL think it holds up well. The music is awesome of course, and all the rock star cameos are cool, but people don't give enough props to the story and the actors involved, which were so captivating. Campbell Scott (who I had never seen before or since in anything) was so good. His character was such a composite of every Gen X dude in his early twenties in 1992. I felt like I was looking at myself on the screen every time I saw his character. Matt Dillon as Cliff, too. Every scene he was in I could not help smiling. He was such a great representation of the typical rocker dude in 1992, but in a Spinal Tap sort of way. I was late to the party in Seattle. I went there for the first time in 2001 and it had changed SO much from what I had seen on TV in the early 90's. Every time I re-watch Singles I long for the ability to go back in time and be living in Seattle during that time. It must have been the greatest place on Earth to be for about five years or so.
Do you think Singles was the inspiration for tv show friends?
Dam, I could have written this. I feel 100% same.
I thought the movie was boring, the only saving grace is the music
Damn shame. I would've loved to see them in the movie.
a little history goes a long way - Cameron Crowe wrote Singles in 84. Originally set in Phoenix but changed to Seattle when he married Nancy Wilson and started living in Seattle and taking in their music scene. He's a music journalist by trade so he gets heavily into the scene and makes friends with Soundgarden and Mother Love Bone. Andy Wood dies and he casts the guys from Mookie Blaylock to be in the movie. Warner refuses to release the movie because they dont see a draw. Only after Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden blow up in the fall of 1991 does the studio see dollar signs.
Essentially Kurt was right to decide whether or not his band was part of a Romedy like Singles but the timeline proves this wasnt just a cash grab for those involved and Nirvana is on the right side of non-sell out history. Know the facts.
Yes it was a very "LA" take on the Seattle scene imo.
A good example was during the Alice In Chains performance scene. The girls go bounding up to the bar with their hair bobbing like they were at a Poison concert or something. That was not the vibes of a Seattle show at the time - at all.
And the cheesy Paul Westerberg songs interspersed in the soundtrack ... meh.
@@nightburrito9283 We can agree to disagree on Westerberg. Those are definitely pop songs but most of the Seattle scene owes him publishing or royalty payments so I'm glad he had two tracks on a major seller like this soundtrack.
kurt had utter contempt for that hollywood bullshit. good on you man
I thought it was a rather fine movie
Its ok because we got a live Alice in Chains performance instead out of it
You mean Hollyweird
Well said, AIC is the best band of the grunge scene👌
Kurt lived in Hollywood.
I didn't hate the movie, but it definitely wasn't great either. I took my girlfriend to it when we were 16. Love the music, the bands, and the overall atmosphere of being shot in Seattle during the grunge area. Too bad the actual Love story itself was so damn boring. This movie was kind of a missed opportunity and could have been so much better...
Definitely. Missed opportunity for sure.
If this movie was more like Pump Up the Volume, Dazed and Confused, Reality Bites, Slacker, Before Sunrise, My Own Private Idaho, etc. or in the style of stuff like that, it would be WAY more of a classic. More relevant to that whole grunge zeitgeist, more substantial, more well regarded in hindsight. The atmosphere is great for the most part. Matt Dillon's band is kind of a lazy parody. It doesn't bother me so much that it's a parody, as much as it's not a very well thought out one.
All that aside for all its flaws, it's probably the best time capsule of that period on film. There's something to be said for the fact that this was filmed in May of 1991. The tone may have been different if it was filmed after Nevermind came out.
@Ammar Osman Well said my friend. You put it in better words than I did. The actual story itself was just such a lazy effort. Deserved to be something cutting edge but just wasn't. Not even close. You're right also about the whole citizen dick goofy sub plot. Probably meant to be kind of low key Wayne's worldish. But not funny and unnecessary. But as we both agree, the music and atmosphere made it worth seeing.
Dude, you were not going to a movie at 16 yrs of age looking for a legitimate romance movie. Gtfo
I watched Singles yesterday and no, no Nirvana material in it at all. It was cool to see Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains and others cameo in it, plus songs by Mudhoney, Mother Love Bone, Screaming Trees, etc.
I loved that movie- saw it in an empty theater. It was great to see those bands interlaced with the story.
Not sad Nirvana isn’t a part of the movie. Over time, I’ve found the other bands from the film more interesting, their music still playable over time. Nirvana has faded for me.
Maybe their music was overplayed, not sure, but I just can’t find it interesting anymore. The lyrics are immature meditations to me, childish. I was in HS when it came out and I had all the albums, but just can’t listen to any of it anymore.
yeah i was not sad about them not being in it whatsoever
You mean like Paul Westerberg, who basically inspired the entire grunge genre w/ the Replacements?
Go back and revisit bleach album. So good.
Nothing immature about In Utero. Cobain was a lyrical genius.
@@ohwellwhateverr Lyrical genius? I don't know about that.
After the scene had died down I remember visiting Seattle for the first time and it was different from what the Singles movie portrayed. I did however meet the Spoonman. That was cool.
This has to be one of the most rock 'n' roll clips ever. All three of Nirvana just chilling; Cobain with his baby daughter on his knee, Novoselic and Grohl holding bottles of milk.
Thank you so much for this Shirley! I always wondered if Cameron had asked them to be in the film.
He's holding that baby properly burping it. He leans down to kiss her 00:42 . That's a dad that loves his baby. Had he been sober he would not have committed suicide. Like some people that are stoned and jump off a bridge to fly, I believe Cobain either believed he was invincible or it was a total freak accident when he was stoned. Too many interviews he has a good grip on things. He wasn't suicidal.
Didn't he leave a suicide note though? Courtney read it to an audience of fans, shown on MTV at the time.
@@junodonatus4906 Biting my tongue...
@@tngrrl73
Yeah...Kurt Cobain, Bruce Lee, Marilyn Monroe, John F. Kennedy, Elvis Presley.....amazing how a famous person can't die young without it always being a conspiracy and cover-up.
He'd attempted suicide before, so it wasn't some freak accident. Plus he did things like drop the baby while high and beat the shit out of his wife. He was a complicated person, but please don't gloss over the fact that complicated people can do shit that's incredibly stupid and selfish... like leaving a wife and kid to live with the pain of suicide.
@@rigortortoise522 Not even if asked to do it with a gun pointing him, Kurt would never hurt a woman, so not quite sure what the fuck you're talking about, and when did he that thing with her baby?
I'm pretty sure you're one of those persons that talk shit but can't really justify it.
Well they were wrong because it’s more than just a love story. It’s a time capsule for us Gen-Xers. You guys sound immature and ridiculous
I’m glad Pearl Jam and sound garden were in it - Eddie Vedder was great!
Seasons was such a good song by Chris Cornell, curious what Nirvana would've made
It's a great and fun movie. I would have liked Nirvana to have been included somehow.
... And after, they got kinda jealousy...
Currently watching the movie for the first time right now. I got way too excited when AIC were playing live in the beginning😅😅
it feels like dave would have done it, if not the ego of kurt just turned it down, no matter what movie it would have been, just to be edgy and kinda standing out. i get that in a way, but on the other side, its just stupid. WHY? coz the movie and the ost is great
One pf my first CDs in the 8th grade, great album
Singles was so lame. I couldn't sit through it in its emrirety.
That "We Are Bigger Than This" Attitude Nirvana (and especially Kurt) had makes them hard to like. They didn't even see the movie...
Well said
It was a cheesy movie. I'd say it was more of a case of "We're different than this".
How so?
Bro who cares the movie sucked ass anyway
I think it makes it easier to like them. They did their own thing and were still recognized for the things they did instead of following everyone else.
Oh look at Kurt and his little Beangirl
It's a good movie.
Dave was right though. The movie was mainly about a non band people in a relationship who just happen to live in 90's Seattle with Matt Dillon's band character shoehorned in a D level sub plot for comic relief. The movie can be recut with all the "grunge" stuff edited out and it'd still be an hour and 25 minutes long.
Baby's day out
NOT a Good Film.
The most wholesome Nirvana interview ever, with baby FBC being gently tended to by Daddy.
and the movie was still good & successful without nirvana. oh well
Man.. too many people trashing these guys for not wanting to be apart of some movie that no one talks about anymore lol.
It's their choice guys, it's not egotistical to not want to do something you wouldn't enjoy doing anyway.
Kurt could be a real turd but he was just a young man so hard to judge him on that now.
Yea true, it’s safe to say his later days/nirvanas final years he was getting the handle of being a famous rock and roll musician and wasn’t much like this, he wasn’t perfect and so when they blew up I can understand many of his points
100%. and not thinking clearly. he would have been a great adult. still so sad
perfectly good movie without them
what movie?
singles
Weird way to hold a baby lol
a guy who died at 27 is talking about a guy who died at 24. and grunge was the mainstream thing once upon a time..
Who did they mention that died at 24?
@@leinonibishop9480Andrew Wood
That movie changed my life and everybody I knew at that time I literally worked with two girls in Little Rock Arkansas at a hotel that moved to Seattle because of that movie.
Eww.
Moana
They weren't missed.
Such a shame they are not in the movie
That would've been so out of character for them. And for the record, Nirvana LOVED movies like This is Spinal Tap, so it was not about putting grunge music on-screen that made them say no...
Love their music! but wow what sourpuss comments..Singles the music is absolutely classic, why would anyone not want to be on an album with Would? Seasons, or State of Love and Trust?
Am I the only one who thinks Dave's "No way!" at 0:20 is adorable? Baby Dave was so cute
i'm not a big fan of nirvana, but i wish they would have been in the movie
Great soundtrack tho stud the test of time. I don’t think come as you are is good enough to actually make that album lol
Totally agree !
Pompous
Fuck yes.
A cringeworthy, tacky cashgrab that I am glad Nirvana was not a part of. There were many much better 'grunge' movies made in the 90s, from Slacker to 1996 Suburbia and Clerks. All of them made without rubbing 'grunge' music into your face.
That movie sucked balls.
I think they were pretty honest and smart not to be part of that movie, Nirvana didn´t fit on that "s E a T L e S c E n E" depicted there, just look at the movie... it´s horrible and full of forced cliches. Don´t get me wrong, most of the OST is decent ;)
Yes it was a very "LA" take on the Seattle scene imo.
A good example was during the Alice In Chains performance scene. The girls go bounding up to the bar with their hair bobbing like they were at a Poison concert or something. That was not the vibes of a Seattle show at the time - at all.
And the cheesy Paul Westerberg songs interspersed in the soundtrack ... meh.
The Fucking most overrated band of all time. They would have ruined that movie for me. AIC and PJ ruled that time.
How would they had ruin it if they were in it?
Well said, AIC is the best band from the grunge scene👌
Dude what you’re talking about? It would’ve been cool seeing nirvana with AIC, Pearl Jam and soundgarden in the film.
BASED!
@@TheStepmonkeyAIC and Nirvana are both great .
What the industry did to Kurt Cobain look at him with his baby he is just so gentle and tender. You can tell he loves that baby.
there was no cover band, its just a lie
Not a lie, if you listened to the interview he literally said "I heard a rumor".
Gen X here (75) I hated the movie Singles. The first real movie about Gen X and it’s about people in their 20s? No one cared. It should have been a coming of age movie. I was 15 when Nirvana exploded.
That's because half the cohort were in their 20's in 1992. You (and I) were born in the latter half of Gen X (1965-1980).
Half of them were later baby boomers like my father (1963) Eddie Vedder, Matt Dillon, Bridget Fonda, Chris Cornell etc all baby boomers.
@@93jtorre Exactly
Cobain did his daughter a favor, saved her from a life with him in it
Geeze burp already!!
Cuz Kurt was a miserable manic, what a lot of people don’t understand is that nirvana was never really popular in Seattle. They struggled to sell out shows. Mainly because Kurt was such a beeyatch