@@lochnessmunster1189 I am sure same could have been said about Christianity after "seeing through" 1st century AD. History does not follow your perception, it's determined by its own laws
@@wolfcookerBack But I never suggested that history follows my perception. I'm arguing that Communism did not have the intended consequences, ever, anywhere it was attempted.
@@wolfcookerBack But I never suggested that history follows my perception. I'm arguing that Communism did not have the intended consequences, ever, anywhere it was attempted.
@lochnessmunster1189 your words "WE have seen through XX century Communism is not the way to do this" is YOUR subjective assessment based on your perception of Communism and XX century's history. You can't judge it objectively without taking the DELIBERATE OBSTRUCTION undertaken by anti-Communism into the equation. If Communism lost in past it doesn't mean it will not prevail in future. Because history doesn't stop. If you suggest that the anti-Commusism will be there FOREVER and it always be victorious, then I recommend you to study Dialectics
@@lochnessmunster1189i presume then you haven't seen the data showing the complete lack of correlation between public opinion and which public policies get pursued by elected officials? It's worth a look for level setting our shared objective reality in these conversations.
@@DAL30505 Why are you assuming that people's power is only through government? (And you are right about the lack of connection between public opinion and politicians).
@@lochnessmunster1189 please look up the definition of "property" from a Marxist lense. It all depends on the definition of "business owner". Try THINKING!
@@lochnessmunster1189a malevolent personality intent on exploiting every resource for personal profit while avoiding responsibility for as much negative externalities as possible. How'd I do?
@@lochnessmunster1189 for fucks sake, I can't help you. Try starting with Google and working your way up to a thing called "books". Good luck, future- comrade!
It's great such sessions take place in our time! It gives us hope for consciousnesly improved and thus better future 🚩✊️
But as we've seen through the 20th century, Communism isn't the way to do that.
@@lochnessmunster1189 I am sure same could have been said about Christianity after "seeing through" 1st century AD. History does not follow your perception, it's determined by its own laws
@@wolfcookerBack But I never suggested that history follows my perception. I'm arguing that Communism did not have the intended consequences, ever, anywhere it was attempted.
@@wolfcookerBack But I never suggested that history follows my perception. I'm arguing that Communism did not have the intended consequences, ever, anywhere it was attempted.
@lochnessmunster1189 your words "WE have seen through XX century Communism is not the way to do this" is YOUR subjective assessment based on your perception of Communism and XX century's history. You can't judge it objectively without taking the DELIBERATE OBSTRUCTION undertaken by anti-Communism into the equation. If Communism lost in past it doesn't mean it will not prevail in future. Because history doesn't stop.
If you suggest that the anti-Commusism will be there FOREVER and it always be victorious, then I recommend you to study Dialectics
The topic about AI and debt is really well covered!
Power to the people! Thanks for sharing, would love to be in such nice talk.
Do you think that the people don't have power currently?
@@lochnessmunster1189i presume then you haven't seen the data showing the complete lack of correlation between public opinion and which public policies get pursued by elected officials? It's worth a look for level setting our shared objective reality in these conversations.
@@DAL30505 Why are you assuming that people's power is only through government? (And you are right about the lack of connection between public opinion and politicians).
Thank you for this, really good introduction.
Comment in support!
Good talk, thanks.
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Incredible presentation of Marxist economics!
Unfortunately, much of Marxist economics isn't quite right.
Comrade Dyatlov did not understand how an RBMK reactor worked.
"Let the machines STARVE, you fools! Let them DIE!"
-Metropolis (1927)
What's the relevance of that, to today's situation?
@@lochnessmunster1189 we (the workers) have yet to seize the means of production.
For the benefit of all, join in the struggle for liberation! ✊🏼
@@CaptPeon Why only the means of production, and not the means of distribution? Also, aren't business owners workers too?
@@lochnessmunster1189 please look up the definition of "property" from a Marxist lense.
It all depends on the definition of "business owner".
Try THINKING!
Some capitalists are thinking about having terminators developed to defend themselves from the hordes of desperate humans. What’s wrong with that?😊
What's a 'capitalist'?
@@lochnessmunster1189hl
@@lochnessmunster1189a malevolent personality intent on exploiting every resource for personal profit while avoiding responsibility for as much negative externalities as possible.
How'd I do?
@@CaptPeon Not well. What on earth is "exploiting"??
@@lochnessmunster1189 for fucks sake, I can't help you. Try starting with Google and working your way up to a thing called "books".
Good luck, future- comrade!
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