Warm Light = Cool Shadows? Or Is It A Myth?

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • I have often heard the rule that if you have warm light you have cool shadows, and if you have cool light you have warm shadows. But is this thr truth or a myth?
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  • @KapookLynn
    @KapookLynn Месяц назад +199

    The ‘there is no color in the shadow but the secondary light‘ things really enlightens me

    • @bruce-le-smith
      @bruce-le-smith Месяц назад +5

      Do not try and bend the spoon; that's impossible. Instead, only try to realize the truth… there is no spoon. Then you'll see that it is not the spoon that bends; it is only yourself

    • @FaerieEnderHare
      @FaerieEnderHare Месяц назад +5

      unintentional pun moment?

    • @RM_VFX
      @RM_VFX Месяц назад +2

      This also answers the question "what color is chrome?" The answer is, "whatever it's reflecting."

    • @Misterdrew_
      @Misterdrew_ 14 дней назад

      Yeah same here, a whole new world opened up 😊

  • @Maddibitts
    @Maddibitts Месяц назад +46

    This video blew my mind, I feel like I suddenly understand what I'm painting rather than just trusting a process

  • @Foervraengd
    @Foervraengd Месяц назад +61

    1:28 this whole segment helps more than all of the boring spheres we usually use as shadow reference

  • @carnigoth
    @carnigoth Месяц назад +41

    Perfect explanation. I was always fascinated by sky blue shadows in the snow

  • @ScottHebertArt
    @ScottHebertArt Месяц назад +67

    dang. The blue sky being secondary light source blew my mind a little bit.
    This was filmed really well and it greatly aided in my understanding of what you were talking about. Having you on screen as the presenter while the lights changed color and you changed environment was a really good choice even though it probably took forever to film.
    thanks for going the extra mile it really helps.

  • @catastropheoverclock
    @catastropheoverclock Месяц назад +5

    I had a teacher ask if the warm light makes the shadows cool then what would cool light do to shadows, I said make them warm, and the teacher laughed and said no they become even more cool. This sounded wrong but I was just a student. Years later I asked a better art teacher if they were right and he thought for a moment and said, "their answer doesn't make sense, if something is cooler than cool then than means your cool was really a warm; warmness and coolness are relative in relation to each other, your warmest color is your warm and your coolest are your cool" and I was like damn I wish you were in my class years ago

  • @bsmarques
    @bsmarques Месяц назад +22

    How can a short video be so full of information and lessons? Blew my mind, many times, thank you

  • @ranasi1210
    @ranasi1210 Месяц назад +26

    I spent 5 ears of my life in an art school, but none of classes there were nearly as interesting as yours! Thank you so much! I hope we get to see more of your color theory/painting/etc videos🥺

    • @MM-qm9ld
      @MM-qm9ld Месяц назад +3

      You spent 5 years at an art school? Ouch.

    • @Goodhello369
      @Goodhello369 Месяц назад

      Cost an arm, a leg and 5 ears 👂 😂 😅

  • @bruce-le-smith
    @bruce-le-smith Месяц назад +5

    an interior designer told me something similar once. she said that the same paint or finish would look different in a room with light coming from different cardinal directions and depending on what objects were outside the window. a big tree or a lawn would cast in a lot of green colour, and that might look cooler in a room with north facing windows during the day versus in a room with west facing windows in the evening, and then adding in multiple windows or doorways, etc. great video thanks!

  • @nicolas89675
    @nicolas89675 Месяц назад +17

    1:26 that is such a good transition

    • @christianmcnally4323
      @christianmcnally4323 28 дней назад +1

      I read this comment before hand and still wasn't ready. I was LITERALLY startled

  • @darrylnelson2952
    @darrylnelson2952 23 дня назад +2

    Very helpful, I like the evidence presented to help see the reality. One other thing I noticed that has a big impact on the "shadow" colour, is the colour of the object itself. For instance, a reddish coloured cliff will of course look red on the sunny areas, but there will also be red in the shadow areas, although it may be a bit bluer red or perhaps warmer depending on the reflected light.

  • @citadelofwinds1564
    @citadelofwinds1564 Месяц назад +9

    This has been extremely helpful. All too often I have come across dogmatic statements from artists and art teachers, and it's turned out that their claims apply only in some situations. But because those claims are expressed as rules, all too often people end up painting what they are TOLD is there, rather than what they OBSERVE to be there.
    This video has certainly taught me to look at both the shadow side of faces and to consider what kind of light is creating the colour seen on the face - the colour temperature of the light source, the direction of light, bounced light, etc. Thank you for the thorough explanation of colours in shadows.

  • @reallydarren
    @reallydarren Месяц назад +9

    Jeremy, taking it outside is just another level! I've learned so much, having these real life examples makes things in my brain click. Thank you for doing all of that!!

  • @canoners
    @canoners Месяц назад +5

    Great to see you you post this! I used to find it weird that people always refer to the artistic choice of warm light and cool shadow as some kind of rule, even though, as you mentioned in this video, that the coolness usually comes from the sky. Throughout my career, I realize that art directors use it less as a rule, but more to increase the appeal of an image, because color contrast usually makes an image more pleasing to the eye.

  • @vin4216
    @vin4216 Месяц назад +4

    It's amazing when Jeremy turns on the secondary light source, the area where the warm and cool light meets, becomes purple-ish in color.

  • @user-kt5cp7lv5e
    @user-kt5cp7lv5e Месяц назад +3

    Thank you, I learned a lot. I never had a problem with light, I just drew what I saw. When I was in school (1970's) we didn't talk about temperature. One day the instructor told me about reflected light. Never had a problem with it after that. Your doing the same as he did, strait out not hiding behind catch words. I like that, no mysteries just what is.

  • @greboge
    @greboge Месяц назад +5

    This kind of content being available for free is just amazing! You are a amazing teacher, Jeremy! Its insane how a good explanation can change the way wee see the world!

  • @JaneXemylixa
    @JaneXemylixa Месяц назад +2

    I always love ultramarine-blue shadows in the snow in winter. Especially next to the orange of a sunset. No illusions about where the color of the shadows comes from on such days

  • @myshrinkingviolet2
    @myshrinkingviolet2 День назад

    The very thing I've been saying for YEEAAARRRS!!! Oh my gosh, someone else finally says it!! I've been saying shadow "color" is really just ambient lighting, aka anything that is bouncing or scattering light so that it may reach the darker areas. I have thought about doing a deep dive video on it for YEARS, now! If I ever do, I definitely want to guide folks to this video. Your demonstrations and explanations are immaculate!

  • @JuanManuelTastzian
    @JuanManuelTastzian Месяц назад +3

    Hi Jeremy, I wanted to take a minute to thank you for sharing this. This "myth" of "warm light/cool shadows" and vice versa is something very widespread, and "most of the time" true and "mind blowing", when examples are on a wide open area. What people don't know is that the reason for that being true in such examples, is the direct light of the sun and the reflected light of the sky, as you explain here in a perfectly clear way. Once again, thank you very much for clarifying this!

  • @SSS765
    @SSS765 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for addressing and explaining this so thoroughly. I have had this conversation/argument for years, how the rule of thumb ‘warm light equals cool shadows’ is simply not true. This video is SAVED for future reference. 👍🏻😎

  • @Nakhab
    @Nakhab Месяц назад +8

    Doesn't "local color" plays its part as well? Human skin can reflect virtually any color, but, let us say, synthetic vivid blue jacket can not (or can it?). So what if an object can barely reflect whatever secondary color there is?

    • @Foervraengd
      @Foervraengd Месяц назад +1

      Reflected light is more or less just a suuuuuper diffused reflection, human skin has sweat and oils and translucency which adds to the effect. So if this synthetic super blue jacket has a glossy finish it would probably show more of a tinted reflection, but best solution is to just get hold of this material and see for yourself IRL.

    • @LightingMentor
      @LightingMentor  Месяц назад +6

      Yes, local color and material play a HUGE part in this too! Just more things to learn about light and color. It's all so amazing to study in my opinion

  • @T.Florenz
    @T.Florenz Месяц назад +1

    As an artist, I only use "warm light; cool shadows" as a shorthand for color relativity and a beginning point for teaching color and light theory. Learning more about how color IS light, and the scientific ways that light changes as it interacts with objects and environments (like the reddish edge that appears right before the terminator angle, called "Diffraction") helps to introduce more complexity and understanding. Love your breakdown of the subject!

  • @ivangraypiece
    @ivangraypiece Месяц назад +2

    your teaching is so good and well done! thank you so much for making this a public video for all people around the globe! :)

  • @syaning_
    @syaning_ Месяц назад

    Thank you for this well produced video Mentor Jeremy! You always deliver amazing content that blows my mind every time. You make color theory such a fun and not so overwhelming topic for us.

  • @MarcoGuadalupi
    @MarcoGuadalupi Месяц назад +3

    This is a very precious, enlightening video. Thanks so much!

  • @johncollado1151
    @johncollado1151 Месяц назад +1

    Color concept has been the bane of existence for me. Your channel has helped extremely in trying to understand that complexity. Thank you for all you do to help.

  • @ChillinDylanX
    @ChillinDylanX Месяц назад +2

    Love your channel learning so much! Thank you! 🙏🏻

  • @kindbutangry
    @kindbutangry Месяц назад +3

    i love you so much. i love how passionate you are when explaining this stuff. ❣

  • @smurfette_blues7922
    @smurfette_blues7922 Месяц назад +1

    Another genuinely insightful and helpful lesson! Thank you!!!

  • @geoffmoug9881
    @geoffmoug9881 Месяц назад +1

    Tremendous job of explaining light and bounce light in the shadows. Thankyou. Your videos are very helpful.

  • @SavMortem
    @SavMortem Месяц назад

    You are always such a good teacher. You break down complex subjects so well in a way that they make sense. Thank you!!!

  • @trigestigro4707
    @trigestigro4707 Месяц назад +1

    I love your channel, I love lighting and I learn so much from your videos. Great work!

  • @jozseflaszlo7445
    @jozseflaszlo7445 Месяц назад +1

    I'm so glad to be alive to see this video! Thank you for making it, brilliant and very helpful!

  • @user-tt3qv4uq4r
    @user-tt3qv4uq4r 29 дней назад

    please never stop spreading your knowledge. an amazing teacher.

  • @changemymind06
    @changemymind06 Месяц назад

    This is the best video on lighting I've found and sadly you're only the 2nd artist I've seen on YT who properly explains this. Your real life examples were extremely helpful! It was cool to see how much the light bounced from your hand when it was by your face (when you had the warm & blue light) and you immediately see a patch of warm light in the blue. Thank you for making such a great video with such wonderful examples!

  • @abbyjentson2563
    @abbyjentson2563 Месяц назад

    Thank you for what you do. You’re really helping me be more intentional with my color and lighting choices!

  • @BrandiWineRn
    @BrandiWineRn Месяц назад

    Best description and examples that support what u are saying! Thank you bc I have looked for these answers and was tired of all these supposed rules which I found to be wrong but I am very new to art . Thank you

  • @av3ngers17
    @av3ngers17 Месяц назад

    what a gorgeous and so well made video. I'm in awe. Thank you so much for spreading your invaluable knowledge!

  • @IraKane
    @IraKane Месяц назад +1

    One of the best explanations i've seen ever about this subject matter. Really enlightening😁

  • @dorigusu2577
    @dorigusu2577 Месяц назад

    you are a godsend sir. I've gone through so many diff tutorials and courses, but your one video helped clear up so much about "shadow" color and temperature in general!!

  • @MrS690
    @MrS690 Месяц назад +3

    Great video as always. Learning 3D Rendering/Lighting taught me a ton regarding light and shadows for painting.

    • @hichamville
      @hichamville Месяц назад

      I did the opposite.. I learned a lot about colors .. light n shadow from painting to improve my 3D renderings 😊

  • @DanielCote-ke6sg
    @DanielCote-ke6sg Месяц назад

    Jeremy, these observations are so accurate and inspiring, I learned a lot, and you are a great teacher, thank you. I will watch all your other videos for sure.

  • @jeirawat
    @jeirawat Месяц назад

    Thank you for your knowledge. You encouraged many people and enlightened new way of learning process every time. I hope every of your videos are hit more than million views.
    Please keep going and stay healthy, stay hydrated, our mentor!

  • @schhhart2758
    @schhhart2758 Месяц назад

    Absolutely brilliantly done! Thank you🙏🏽❤️ Really clear, accurate information that just brought so much to my understanding. Really appreciate your approaches. Keep up the great work, brother✊🏽💥🎉

  • @laurenmorgan-outhisack6341
    @laurenmorgan-outhisack6341 Месяц назад +1

    I always learn so much from your videos. You are a great teacher

  • @stephaniechafe694
    @stephaniechafe694 Месяц назад

    Really awesome to see so many practical examples in nature, I still got so much to learn. Such a helpful demonstration!

  • @Grondhammar
    @Grondhammar Месяц назад

    Great content, very well presented. The excellent demos also helped me realise that secondary lighting is critical to the mood of a piece.

  • @alxdeu2008
    @alxdeu2008 24 дня назад

    I am just lucky to have run into your channel. You are one of the few best ones who enlighten me in light subject. And I highly appreciate your giving back what you have learned in those so many years of experience in the field , back into those who need your experience and valuable information into the world , I just simply say " Thank You ",, You touch onto lives somewhere on this earth planet,

  • @stellawolfstudio
    @stellawolfstudio 5 дней назад

    What a wonderful video, thank you so much! Incredibly helpful, thoughtful, informative. Especially benefitted from your visual examples of bounced, diffuse, etc. light sources.

  • @missyg_
    @missyg_ Месяц назад

    Thanks!!! You are very good at explaining things, and transform complicated stuff into easy to understand.

  • @elianabastidas3634
    @elianabastidas3634 Месяц назад +1

    Love your video! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge.

  • @remidiy_
    @remidiy_ Месяц назад +1

    I genuinely love how you explain things, there's a reason I always refer people here lol

  • @lucytowbin4713
    @lucytowbin4713 23 дня назад +1

    Sooooo helpful! I have a Studio art degree since 1974 and nobody ever explained shadows to me like this!

  • @toddelliott3239
    @toddelliott3239 Месяц назад +2

    Excellent tutorial!!! Covered so much as efficiently as possible. I want to know what lighting system you’re using!?!? Incredible demonstrations 👏

  • @YassineCherifi
    @YassineCherifi Месяц назад

    you always say things that really change our view entirely I never thought of it that way till now, thank you so much Jeremy 🙏❤

  • @joespadaford8736
    @joespadaford8736 Месяц назад

    You do such a great job Jeremy. Enjoyed you for years. Thank you

  • @samreevesartist
    @samreevesartist 12 дней назад

    Extremely helpful. I need to rewatch about 50 times.

  • @TheADHDM
    @TheADHDM Месяц назад

    This is the channel I've been looking for. Thank you.

  • @Bubleone1
    @Bubleone1 Месяц назад

    It's so very kind of you to share your knowledge on this subject! I truly appreciate it very much! Thank you!!! Greetings from someone who always wants to learn🔦..... (I'm from The Netherlands) 🎨

  • @Pasunreve212
    @Pasunreve212 11 дней назад

    Oh gosh this is the BEST color-lighting theory explanation video I’d ever seen!!!
    Thanks so much for the video!!❤

  • @zlobna_bulka
    @zlobna_bulka Месяц назад

    Love it! Very simple practical explanation. Thank you!❤

  • @80_cake
    @80_cake Месяц назад

    I LOVE ur channel. My art has improved exponentially. TY! ❤

  • @numinoos
    @numinoos Месяц назад +1

    Excellent tutorial. As a nature and wildlife photographer, I often wrestle with adjusting White Balance when capturing images of birds and monkeys in dense Forrest cover because of this bounce light and subsurface scattering. Thank you.

  • @banshee1832
    @banshee1832 Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for your wisdom. Your videos about color are very helpful!

  • @iblobliboo8501
    @iblobliboo8501 Месяц назад +2

    Thanks you so much for making this excellent video! It's really enlightening!

  • @setapartartist
    @setapartartist 25 дней назад

    Absolutely amazing teaching. This finally made it click. Thank you soooooo much!

  • @nellow461
    @nellow461 Месяц назад +1

    This short film is really cool and useful, but one slight drawback is that if human faces are used as examples, the semi-transparency of the skin can reveal the color of blood vessels underneath, creating an illusion of warm and cool variations under a single light source. I think it would be better to use opaque materials for the examples, such as a plaster sphere.

  • @JasonKey3D
    @JasonKey3D Месяц назад +1

    excellent demonstrations, great stuff Jeremy 👏

  • @hunteriadkins
    @hunteriadkins Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for these videos, they're extremely insightful.

  • @tessellatiaartilery8197
    @tessellatiaartilery8197 Месяц назад

    This was fascinating. And the explanation of real examples was highly instructive. Thank you very much for this excellent tutorial.

  • @felix_xb
    @felix_xb Месяц назад

    Fantastic presentation aids in the video, really drove the point home so easily.

  • @lauriehellewell4539
    @lauriehellewell4539 10 дней назад

    Incredibly helpful. Thank you so much!

  • @davidjonnelson4342
    @davidjonnelson4342 Месяц назад +1

    This was helpful! Really useful information

  • @stormycatmink
    @stormycatmink Месяц назад +25

    Another effect I've noticed is that your brain tends to play tricks on you a bit. This is why a blue will seem brighter if you build a gradient of darker blue around it first. Most people have probably seen the tricks with a grey square in a yellow field and a purple field, and they look different. I think the brightness of the sunlight does something like that with the shadows, too. It shifts their apparent hue a little bit. The brain likes to enhance contrast. And I don't just mean brightness, but also in hue. I'd not be surprised if it were artificially making the shadow shift towards the opposite color of the lightsource, or at least, make you think it is.

    • @MM-qm9ld
      @MM-qm9ld Месяц назад

      That's because color is relative, in regards to how you perceive it. That doesn't mean color or light "tricks" you, YOU trick you, by not grasping the difference between color relativity in regards to perception and actual objective factors affecting color which allow you to perceive it in such a way. It's not some kind of mysticism that makes a gray appear more blue or a blue that would otherwise seem desaturated appear more saturated, bc our impression of color exists relative to other colors in our field of view. That doesnt mean the colors themselves are somehow arbitrarily arranged. This is all provable and explainable, as in the video here whereas you're just positing this kind of wonky mysticism that color makes you think things so maybe it just happens well cuz. Yeah, no. You've made no effort to even explain or demonstrate a point, rather you're just obfuscating the actual insights from this video.
      Your comment is baseless nonsense.

    • @Ttown151
      @Ttown151 15 дней назад

      Calm down honey

    • @Ttown151
      @Ttown151 15 дней назад

      @@MM-qm9ldcalm down

  • @InkyIsScared
    @InkyIsScared Месяц назад

    Loved the demonstration. Was fun to watch you point at your face and have your hand reflect light back onto the shadow side of your face! Even before you brought in the reflectors.

  • @slamotte
    @slamotte Месяц назад

    what an amazing demonstration! light is such a wonderful subject to study

  • @pablo-zn1mg
    @pablo-zn1mg Месяц назад

    being a cg artist for over a decade it was a bit silly for me to hear what the 'myth' was about. But, I loved the explanation on why it's not the case and what to pay attention to.
    Thanks for sharing your knowledge Jeremy !

  • @manscarlsson8717
    @manscarlsson8717 Месяц назад

    Very useful, thank you for posting, Jeremy. You explain very well and thus is a very practical video for artists.

  • @hiddenwings91
    @hiddenwings91 Месяц назад

    This video is a pure miracle. Thank you so much!

  • @irismuddyhehe
    @irismuddyhehe 22 дня назад

    the moment around 1:28 where you step forward and how it lined up roughly with the end of the previous segment in the most awesome way, that was magic, movie magic!

  • @markdinsdale4869
    @markdinsdale4869 Месяц назад

    More knowledge in this video then i ever got in 3 years of art college. Hope this video blows uo your channel

  • @dogbark
    @dogbark Месяц назад

    jeremy I've learned so much from you, you are the best art teacher!!

  • @Lizard1582
    @Lizard1582 Месяц назад +6

    Legendary channel

  • @gmdressagetraining9642
    @gmdressagetraining9642 28 дней назад

    Fantastic explanation! Thank you so much for all that you do!

  • @mmillerism
    @mmillerism Месяц назад

    thank you for making these videos its so helpfull having practical examples like this

  • @sabd0629
    @sabd0629 Месяц назад

    Amazing video! We thanks you for sharing your knowledge with us🙏🏼

  • @davidlouk8409
    @davidlouk8409 Месяц назад

    Fantastic explanation. Love the shadows are black until a light source effects those shadows introducing color. Great video.

  • @bobongler
    @bobongler Месяц назад

    Thank you so much for your efforts in making and sharing this. Your profundity on the subject shines through your words (pun intended).

  • @Kanfir
    @Kanfir Месяц назад

    Thank you very much! You've done a great research and presentation! Greate job!

  • @charliehomenaje8513
    @charliehomenaje8513 Месяц назад

    So much wisdom...I still remember your dvd's glad to have you around sr ❤❤❤

  • @TheChameleon2008
    @TheChameleon2008 Месяц назад

    Great video and packed with useful information!!!

  • @joelweyhe6801
    @joelweyhe6801 Месяц назад

    Excellent, live-example way to demonstrate the concept!

  • @superrobotfish6701
    @superrobotfish6701 Месяц назад +1

    incredibly helpful! thanks so much for this video!

  • @Kozakology
    @Kozakology Месяц назад

    Awesome explanation! Very nicely illustrated with your lighting set up. Thanks -

  • @supermarionini
    @supermarionini Месяц назад

    Incredibly helpful video. Thank you for sharing the knowledge

  • @gillbaker1310
    @gillbaker1310 Месяц назад

    Thanks Jeremy ☺️ so helpful! No one else has explained this as well as you do..!

  • @LindaMalmstadt
    @LindaMalmstadt Месяц назад

    Thank you! This was so educational

  • @lukmigindnuforhelved
    @lukmigindnuforhelved Месяц назад

    Another great video.
    I think it is also worth mentioning that artists can exaggerate eg the temperature of the shadows in order to make the light more intense.

  • @SwenRB
    @SwenRB Месяц назад

    This is very clear, thank you!