Two of David Tennant's (Dr Who) maternal great-grandparents, William and Agnes Blair, were staunch Protestants from Northern Ireland's County Londonderry, who were among the signatories of the Ulster Covenant in 1912
And he ended up blubbing, and tried to disown them!! Typical bloody ‘Woke’ actor!! We are all part of our history!! They did what they did because they thought it was right at the time!! He cannot put his mores on what his ancestors thought was correct in 1912! What he is, is because of them!!
Events in Ireland in 1922-23 hardened the views of Protestants in North-East Ulster to retreat behind the protection of the border and say, "What we have, we hold." Long-standing prejudices became entrenched. Kevin O'Higgins said bitterly: "We had an opportunity [he said of the North-East] of building up a worthy state that would attract and in time absorb and assimilate those elements. We preferred the patriotic way. We preferred to burn our own houses, blow up our own bridges, rob our own banks, saddle ourselves with millions of debt for the maintenance of an Army and for the payment of compensaton for the recreations of our youth. Generally, we preferred to practise on ourselves worse indignities that the British had practised on us since Cromwell and Mountjoy and now we wonder why the Orangemen are not hopping like so many fleas across the Border in their anxiety to come within our fold and jurisdiction." Dail Eireann Offical Report, Treaty Debate, 1923, pp. 206-7 Almost 100 years later 95% of Protestants/Unionists in Northern Ireland would vote to remain part of the United Kingdom. Why?
Scotland is not too far away for the Loyalists, but they are not welcome, if they were they would be too much of a burden on the Scottish Budget for "THE DOLE".
100 years on from partition and Edward Carson's dream being shattered, Loyalism in Ireland is once again being shifted by the Conservative and Unionist Party. Roll on Brexit
Parnell the leader of Irish nationalism supported Home Rule along with Redmond. The anti partition League and the Irish Unionists split and ended unionism in the South. 34 Orange lodges in the South voted against partition. Carson split the Irish Unionist women and the Irish Unionist women when he voted against their right to vote in the UK Parliament. The women's Ulster Volunteer Corps served in WW1 with hospitals around the UK and Ireland including Dublin. The demographics were a lot different 100 years ago.
IRISH CATHOLIC WOMEN went to England and served in the Armed Forces as Nurses and in civilian hospitals. Other Irish-Catholic Women worked in factories for arms production. 200,000 Irish Catholics joined the British Army to fight in WW1 which was supposed to be for the "FREEDOM FOR SMALL NATIONS"???
History is always the same when it comes to Colonialism. The People living in the Big Houses rise up the Poorest with their eloquent words of Freedom, and sit back to watch the carnage , and their Cannon Fodder subjects pay the ultimate sacrifice. The Protestant United Irish Men were the Real Leaders that payed the ultimate sacrifice for their fellow Irish Men. Freedom from Westminster, and Equality for both Protestant and Catholic alike. I have to agree with these Brave Honourable Men and Women.
And now Sinn Fein are the largest single political party in the north. Edward Carson had always warned that the marginalisation of the Nationalist minority by Stormont would come back to haunt it
That’s like asking why was the UK divided? Well the obvious answer is self determination. 26 counties left the UK and eventually became the Republic of Ireland because that’s what the majority of the people wanted there. Likewise 6 counties of Ireland opted out of the same arrangement preferring to be closer to the UK.
I’d never have guessed that Mr Bew would be such an impeccably kept chap ! Beautifully turned out ! I had always imagined him to be a bloke dressed in grotty Army Surplus camouflage, with questionable personal habits & an offensive dismissal of any concern for fundamental hygiene! 😂
If you look at Catholic Ireland it is little wonder that the people of Ulster did not want to join it. The catholic taliban ruled with an iron fist. Most oppressive.
Oh I see. That's how democracy works is it? The minority can overturn the vote if they don't like it? Odd, I thought the minority simply had to accept the will of the majority. Gimp. Anyway, the Republic had the last laugh. The Catholic Church ruled supreme but no more. Compare the 2 states today & see who came out better. Thank God we don't have to deal with those Loyalist fools in the North & I don't mean the normal decent majority of Unionists/Protestants. I mean those Psychopath paramiliataries. Of course, we do have to put with Sinn Féin who I also hate but fuck it, we still get off lightly compared to the North. I do feel empathy for my Nationalist countrymen who are stuck in a state they don't want to be in but there's nothing the Republic can do about it.
Rick Grimes There's plenty that could be done by the southern countrymen. If you want to help, you should petition more for re-union of Ireland; if you don't, you look at Irish history with a hypocritical, inconsistent, and contradictory eye.
***** The future of NI has nothing 2 do with Southern Ireland until Reunification wins in a Northern Referendum & we 2 are called 2 vote. I'm not fool enough 2 believe the South has a say in the future of NI until that time. Even if I believed a petition might help slightly, the most I would do is sign it. I'm not a politician & these things aren't up 2 me. BTW I do realise ur taking the piss.
Rick Grimes I'm 'taking the piss'? That was a bit of a random closure. I haven't a notion where I inferred that. Let's see: you will not vote. If you were an adult in 1998, you will have had the opportunity to approve or not the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement. That's the height of your formal vote for a reunited Ireland, because that agreement gave way to the Northern Ireland Act 1998. Section 1 of said Act: only by way of majority vote within 'northern' Ireland shall the north be reunited with the south; the Governments of Eire and Britain shall accommodate such a stance taken within NI... In other words, you do not have a voting say. This is why I invoke any southerner who wants reunification to become active in our pluralist society, and petition for it; I didn't necessarily mean a signing petition. Next, yes, I do feel it is a contradiction of terms. This is why so: the south enforced its freedom from home-rule state within the UK to separate Republic because it had been vindicated by the 1916 Proclamation, declaring a Republic of the WHOLE of Ireland. Likewise, the GE vote in December 1918 gave the democratic legitimacy to this when Sinn Féin won overwhelmingly. Both of these events occurred before partition; therefore, if you stand by the ideals of being an Irishman whose foundations are these two momentous events and the subsequent war of independence from Britain, you cannot ignore the North's inclusion in those events. In other words, you cannot take the Proclamation and read into it but ignore the WHOLE of Ireland part, nor can you ignore that electoral boundaries for the SF general election 1918 vote extended to the whole of island. Fight for Ireland under these occurrences, then you must stand for reunification of Ireland, otherwise the completion of the proclamation and everything else is not so. To not do so, thus, yes, is to be inconsistent in your philosophy, and, at a cruder, more personal level, would deem said person to be a hypocrite.
@@itsok.e3854and there's thousands of RC who don't want a united Ireland , also many many southern Irish who want no part of a united Ireland , it will never ever happen
Home Rule is Rome Rule was 100% correct - just look at Ireland from 1932 onward. Eamon DeValera transformed the then Irish free state into a Catholic state, with the 1937 constitution giving a special position to the Roman Catholic Church enshrined in their constitution, just the same way the Church of England is enshrined in English parliament.
Correct for how long? Ulster unionists will be vilified in Ireland forever. Kids will be taught about how the split of the country came about and who was to blame. They caused so much discrimination and unnecessary pain and suffering afterwards and all for nothing in the end. Terrorist scumbags.
3-Counties of Ulster are no longer a colony of England. They fought for Irish Freedom from the Crown, the same as the 13-American Colonies fought to become the Republic of the United States of America. The Loyalists in America ran away to Canada.
@@johndoe-ss9bz ah the spectre of The Septic Tank's (Yanks) Pearl Harbour was a great day and one that the Brits knew about! 9/11 was sad for NYC but ultimately a good outcome for Great Britain and Northern Ireland as it meant the IRA funding was stopped..
@@CRAWBURGER You must be some saddist sad mad war monger or something. Living in Britian I have never heard any revelry about 9/11. Every news broadcaster or media treated the events with disdain and sorrow. If you know of any single politician or media arcticle published showing them jumping for joy about 9/11 then please send the links. Otherwise please accept that there is some one who believes you to be more a liar than the length of your nose shows.
So complex and 100 years of disasterous partion and suffering. We could be in the final act of the tragic play. With the Republic far more prosperous, higher pensions, better planned infrastructure and sound economy and EU membership. Only the NHS remaining in the way. With the Westminster unionists bailing out the Tories and SF not turning up. most of Britain have had enough - We need to pay the cost of the NHS and pull out before the end of the decade come what may. 🏴🏴🏴
That's irrelevant. He's frequently seen as a southern Dublin man. Yet yourself and the remainder of your unionist brethren worship this man but at the same time resent everything south of the border. And by the way, demographics are changing, the protestant majority in Belfast is now gone. The North of Ireland has no foreseeable future.
You walked right into that one ...those people dont want to be friends with you ...theyd kill your grandmother and celebrate...I find it great when they show their hatred towards us....
@@therabman_5606 What are loyal to. ..???? Do you stand to attention with your stiff upper lip when the queen drones out her speech at Christmas. No wonder you're the laughing stock of the world ...
This story gives a false narrative. Unionists were not worried about religious persecution or economic disadvantages, it was all about supremacy. Supremacy born from the Protestant ascendency at a time of penal laws which gave them higher status and made them 'superior' in their view. They look down on native Irish Catholics whose land they stole. This is proven now with the churches having lost their power and the South going from being much poorer to much richer. Still Ulster Protestant Unionists refuse unification. Strange bigotted people with bigotted culture. That's the truth.
@@therabman_5606 :: If that is what it takes, well the English Taxpayers will not stand idly by. They will stop paying Dole to Religious-Lunatics in the, no more to be "6-County-Colony". Ireland for Irish Rule - England for English Rule. Freedom- Freedom- Freedom.
Carson was leader of the Irish Unionists before WW1. Huge losses in WWI. Home Rule BILL/Rome rule was postponed until after the war. Loyalist militias were set up in Down Londonderry Antrim Armagh. Carson drew up the Convanent while James Craig reorganised the Ulster Unionist Volunteer Force.
Everybody had huge losses....." home tule/ Rome rule...lol...I suppose you think Ulster's protestants are one of the ten lost tribes of Israel as well...lol..
@@michaelahern6821 The Reformation and Protestantism clearly was never anything about believeing them selves to be one of the 'Lost Ten Tribes of Israel'.
A genuine question for unionists/loyalists which is sincere before we get in to a tit for tat argument. With absolutely no offense intended I would like to ask, with the German army trying to take over Europe and the UK and rightly the British resisting. I'm trying to understand why they cannot understand Ireland wanting the right to liberation and to govern it's own people. Colonialism is nothing more than oppression. Again this is my opinion and I would love to hear from an opposition
I'm an Ulster Unionist and a British citizen. Landmass does not equate to Nation State. If the Irish Free State has the Right to breakaway from the UK and determine its own political future then so does British Northern Ireland from that State. Self-determination for both. The issue ever since has been acceptance of this Right. Dublin born Irishman, Edward Carson forseen what was to come to the British Unionist citizens on an all island State. Not once was our British Identity taken into consideration in the creation of the Irish Republic. It was the totalitarian nature of Irish Nationalism that split Ireland politically.
@@ULYSSES-31 Again a different matter entirety from the question posed but I'll play... Yes, such was the History of the time. One people dominated another. It has happened the world over time immorial until mid 20th century when certain Universal Rights were introduced and promoted by the UN. At the time though Catholic Ireland did go on to create an Irish Free State with help from the Jesuits that was totally alien to the island's Northern populous. (Gaelic, Catholic, Nationalist) Hence Northern Ireland was created in response as this Video clearly points out. That Free State then went onto hold territorial rights over another Nation that was not theirs to hold and helped justify a campaign for Irish Republicans who were chomping at the bit to bomb and murder with an attempted Marxist Coup from 69 onwards. aka... 'The Troubles'. There are many islands divided politically around the globe and many individual islands make up an Archipelago of a single Nation. Northern Ireland is part of a politically divided island that is part of the British Archipelago known around the globe as the British Isles. As i've already pointed out Ulster Unionists have as much a right to determine their own future as Irish Nationalists. It has has been acceptance of that right by intransigent Irish Nationalism that's been the crux of the islands political problems ever since. Any response from the original poster?
@@nowisthetime6093 Northern Ireland has a legal right to exist unless and until its people vote for unity. Your side does not have a veto on democracy now they way you did in 1912. Time to come out of the 17th century.
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Just stop already! Sectarianism in Ulster is nothing more than a smokescreen overshadowing the actual point of contention. The driving issues in Ulster are about class warfare & territory. I challenge any deniers of this claim to convince me otherwise. Belfast, UK.
Eric Bush Wrong it was a massive failure and was not true Independence Ireland is Independent now fuck Home Rule it a republic we wanted they Brits can stuff their puppet government.
love your wee edit mate! especially how you've changed your mind about catholics who enjoy being a part of the UK are traitors aha you're really hilarious thinking its purely Hun V Taig when in actual fact it gets deeper than that, so way read talk to more unionists and nationalists of both religions and pick yourself up a history book D.P. Maron ye
A lost opportunity to have those British, who were never happy in Ireland, to be repatriated to the "Mainland" and give Ireland its independence, which, by way of a democratic election, is what the majority in Ireland wanted.
And to think the hate and loathing of Catholicism and the Irish identity displayed in those times is now referred to as '' Culture'' by todays Unionists
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Two of David Tennant's (Dr Who) maternal great-grandparents, William and Agnes Blair, were staunch Protestants from Northern Ireland's County Londonderry, who were among the signatories of the Ulster Covenant in 1912
And he ended up blubbing, and tried to disown them!! Typical bloody ‘Woke’ actor!! We are all part of our history!! They did what they did because they thought it was right at the time!! He cannot put his mores on what his ancestors thought was correct in 1912! What he is, is because of them!!
They were colonial settlers and illegal inhabitants of occupied Ireland.
Yeah and he was disgusted by it. Can't blame him either.
Lay off the drugs.
@@barryb90 why was he Disgusted?
I'm surprised this didn't mention the Curragh Mutiny. A pretty key part of the whole episode.
Gave me goosebumps watching this , relatives on both sides of my family signed
Amazing people, the loyalist community. Best wishes, from Scotland.
Wish to fuck they stayed in Scotland ...
@@michaelahern6821 Eh.? They're British, just like everyone else in these British Isles, even you.
@@mrsuperger5429 No fella I'm not British...you want to call yourself a mongrel thats your business...
@@mrsuperger5429 tbf what he said is true, the loyalist community in Ulster are of Scottish descent. Hence the term Ulster-Scots.
@@michaelahern6821 Maith thú! Ní Sasanach mé, tá bród orm a bheith Éireannach agus as Cúige Uladh.
Northern Ireland will be forever British, true story 🇬🇧🏴🏴🇯🇪🏴
Northern Ireland will decide by majority her own future, true story
Events in Ireland in 1922-23 hardened the views of Protestants in North-East Ulster to retreat behind the protection of the border and say, "What we have, we hold." Long-standing prejudices became entrenched. Kevin O'Higgins said bitterly:
"We had an opportunity [he said of the North-East] of building up a worthy state that would attract and in time absorb and assimilate those elements. We preferred the patriotic way. We preferred to burn our own houses, blow up our own bridges, rob our own banks, saddle ourselves with millions of debt for the maintenance of an Army and for the payment of compensaton for the recreations of our youth. Generally, we preferred to practise on ourselves worse indignities that the British had practised on us since Cromwell and Mountjoy and now we wonder why the Orangemen are not hopping like so many fleas across the Border in their anxiety to come within our fold and jurisdiction."
Dail Eireann Offical Report, Treaty Debate, 1923, pp. 206-7
Almost 100 years later 95% of Protestants/Unionists in Northern Ireland would vote to remain part of the United Kingdom. Why?
Who gives a fuck what Kevin October Higgins said....
Scotland is not too far away for the Loyalists, but they are not welcome, if they were they would be too much of a burden on the Scottish Budget for "THE DOLE".
@@johndoe-ss9bz They ARE welcome ffs they're YOUR people wdf ye on about...???
@@michaelahern9883 you do lol
@@johndoe-ss9bz so can the tattie munchers from all over the world be all sent back to the Emerald Isle?
100 years on from partition and Edward Carson's dream being shattered, Loyalism in Ireland is once again being shifted by the Conservative and Unionist Party. Roll on Brexit
@@johndoe-ss9bz which they won't you dumb Yank...
Parnell the leader of Irish nationalism supported Home Rule along with Redmond. The anti partition League and the Irish Unionists split and ended unionism in the South. 34 Orange lodges in the South voted against partition. Carson split the Irish Unionist women and the Irish Unionist women when he voted against their right to vote in the UK Parliament. The women's Ulster Volunteer Corps served in WW1 with hospitals around the UK and Ireland including Dublin. The demographics were a lot different 100 years ago.
Irish unionists....lol....that's a good one...
IRISH CATHOLIC WOMEN went to England and served in the Armed Forces as Nurses and in civilian hospitals. Other Irish-Catholic Women worked in factories for arms production. 200,000 Irish Catholics joined the British Army to fight in WW1 which was supposed to be for the "FREEDOM FOR SMALL NATIONS"???
" Carson split the Irish Unionist women and the Irish Unionist women". What the hell are you trying to say, you stupid wanker?
History is always the same when it comes to Colonialism.
The People living in the Big Houses rise up the Poorest with their eloquent words of Freedom, and sit back to watch the carnage , and their Cannon Fodder subjects pay the ultimate sacrifice.
The Protestant United Irish Men were the Real Leaders that payed the ultimate sacrifice for their fellow Irish Men.
Freedom from Westminster, and Equality for both Protestant and Catholic alike.
I have to agree with these Brave Honourable Men and Women.
And now Sinn Fein are the largest single political party in the north. Edward Carson had always warned that the marginalisation of the Nationalist minority by Stormont would come back to haunt it
Fascinating documentary
Not very democtatic
Why was Ulster divided
That’s like asking why was the UK divided? Well the obvious answer is self determination. 26 counties left the UK and eventually became the Republic of Ireland because that’s what the majority of the people wanted there. Likewise 6 counties of Ireland opted out of the same arrangement preferring to be closer to the UK.
@@noodlyappendage6729 bullshit
@@ffspablo8739 What part was bullshit?
Outstanding
The Ulster Scots are a patriotic people. No surrender.
Lol
Their kind of patriotism Britain has left behind ....utter dinosaurs.
They supported the 1798 rebellion but changed sides when the British army dragooned them.
Terrorists...you mean anti-democratic supremacist terrorists.
@@fintonmainz7845your ignorance and grasp on Scottish history is laughable, I blame your schools
good proramme.think every generation had people who hoped for some peace /security for the next.
I’d never have guessed that Mr Bew would be such an impeccably kept chap ! Beautifully turned out ! I had always imagined him to be a bloke dressed in grotty Army Surplus camouflage, with questionable personal habits & an offensive dismissal of any concern for fundamental hygiene! 😂
"Homegrown alright with me, Homegrown, it's the way it should be. Homegrown, it's a good thing, Slap that bell, and let it ring!" - Neil Young.
If you look at Catholic Ireland it is little wonder that the people of Ulster did not want to join it. The catholic taliban ruled with an iron fist. Most oppressive.
Not as oppresive as the way the Protestants treated the catholics in the north.
Oh I see. That's how democracy works is it? The minority can overturn the vote if they don't like it? Odd, I thought the minority simply had to accept the will of the majority. Gimp. Anyway, the Republic had the last laugh. The Catholic Church ruled supreme but no more. Compare the 2 states today & see who came out better. Thank God we don't have to deal with those Loyalist fools in the North & I don't mean the normal decent majority of Unionists/Protestants. I mean those Psychopath paramiliataries. Of course, we do have to put with Sinn Féin who I also hate but fuck it, we still get off lightly compared to the North. I do feel empathy for my Nationalist countrymen who are stuck in a state they don't want to be in but there's nothing the Republic can do about it.
Rick Grimes There's plenty that could be done by the southern countrymen. If you want to help, you should petition more for re-union of Ireland; if you don't, you look at Irish history with a hypocritical, inconsistent, and contradictory eye.
***** The future of NI has nothing 2 do with Southern Ireland until Reunification wins in a Northern Referendum & we 2 are called 2 vote. I'm not fool enough 2 believe the South has a say in the future of NI until that time. Even if I believed a petition might help slightly, the most I would do is sign it. I'm not a politician & these things aren't up 2 me. BTW I do realise ur taking the piss.
Rick Grimes I'm 'taking the piss'? That was a bit of a random closure. I haven't a notion where I inferred that.
Let's see: you will not vote. If you were an adult in 1998, you will have had the opportunity to approve or not the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement. That's the height of your formal vote for a reunited Ireland, because that agreement gave way to the Northern Ireland Act 1998. Section 1 of said Act: only by way of majority vote within 'northern' Ireland shall the north be reunited with the south; the Governments of Eire and Britain shall accommodate such a stance taken within NI... In other words, you do not have a voting say. This is why I invoke any southerner who wants reunification to become active in our pluralist society, and petition for it; I didn't necessarily mean a signing petition.
Next, yes, I do feel it is a contradiction of terms. This is why so: the south enforced its freedom from home-rule state within the UK to separate Republic because it had been vindicated by the 1916 Proclamation, declaring a Republic of the WHOLE of Ireland. Likewise, the GE vote in December 1918 gave the democratic legitimacy to this when Sinn Féin won overwhelmingly. Both of these events occurred before partition; therefore, if you stand by the ideals of being an Irishman whose foundations are these two momentous events and the subsequent war of independence from Britain, you cannot ignore the North's inclusion in those events. In other words, you cannot take the Proclamation and read into it but ignore the WHOLE of Ireland part, nor can you ignore that electoral boundaries for the SF general election 1918 vote extended to the whole of island.
Fight for Ireland under these occurrences, then you must stand for reunification of Ireland, otherwise the completion of the proclamation and everything else is not so. To not do so, thus, yes, is to be inconsistent in your philosophy, and, at a cruder, more personal level, would deem said person to be a hypocrite.
siuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
now I just need to watch another hour of the video but this time taking notes
26:16 !!!!! that is one BIG flag !!!!
Fleg
And it's the wrong way 'round.
@@motog5s477 I don't think that's possible is it ?
@@motog5s477 It was intentionally placed upside down as it's considered a distress signal.
craig and carson the two people that bought the gun into irish politics
The gun was always in Irish politics…. It never left.
Yeah what the other guy said man...guns always featured in Irish politics haha. Carson was just continuing a tradition
NEVER!
NEVER!
NEVER!
SURRENDER
@colin ting tong when you try to finish the quote but realise you just sound like an anti brit asking him to surrender
Prysbeterians fought for the United Irishmen
...and then they wised up when they seen what that would entail!
@@nowisthetime6093did they though ino many presbyterians who want a united ireland
@@itsok.e3854😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 lies
@@itsok.e3854and there's thousands of RC who don't want a united Ireland , also many many southern Irish who want no part of a united Ireland , it will never ever happen
@@robertthomson4013 yea i know that too also it's not what i'm on abt
Home Rule is Rome Rule was 100% correct - just look at Ireland from 1932 onward. Eamon DeValera transformed the then Irish free state into a Catholic state, with the 1937 constitution giving a special position to the Roman Catholic Church enshrined in their constitution, just the same way the Church of England is enshrined in English parliament.
Where does it say mention "the Roman Catholic Church" in devs constitution?
Correct for how long? Ulster unionists will be vilified in Ireland forever. Kids will be taught about how the split of the country came about and who was to blame. They caused so much discrimination and unnecessary pain and suffering afterwards and all for nothing in the end. Terrorist scumbags.
@@darrendelaney9955 So your solution would be what?
Is there a documentary about The Alternative Ulster Covenant?
3-Counties of Ulster are no longer a colony of England. They fought for Irish Freedom from the Crown, the same as the 13-American Colonies fought to become the Republic of the United States of America. The Loyalists in America ran away to Canada.
@@johndoe-ss9bz ah the spectre of The Septic Tank's (Yanks) Pearl Harbour was a great day and one that the Brits knew about! 9/11 was sad for NYC but ultimately a good outcome for Great Britain and Northern Ireland as it meant the IRA funding was stopped..
Stiff Little Fingers ?
@@CRAWBURGER You must be some saddist sad mad war monger or something. Living in Britian I have never heard any revelry about 9/11. Every news broadcaster or media treated the events with disdain and sorrow. If you know of any single politician or media arcticle published showing them jumping for joy about 9/11 then please send the links. Otherwise please accept that there is some one who believes you to be more a liar than the length of your nose shows.
So complex and 100 years of disasterous partion and suffering. We could be in the final act of the tragic play. With the Republic far more prosperous, higher pensions, better planned infrastructure and sound economy and EU membership. Only the NHS remaining in the way. With the Westminster unionists bailing out the Tories and SF not turning up. most of Britain have had enough - We need to pay the cost of the NHS and pull out before the end of the decade come what may. 🏴🏴🏴
I think that both acts of union will end, but not with pomp and ceremony, but it won't be for at least 30 years.
Come the hour, come the man and that man was Sir Edward Carson .
Over 100 years later Ulster is still British thanks to this great patriot
Only 2/3 of Ulster is ruled by the UK
+Toonheidista A man whom you call a patriot factually seen as a Dublin Irishman. You people lol
*****
And you'll NEVER rule that 2/3!
Theo Laugh
Whatever, where's statue in Dublin?
That's irrelevant. He's frequently seen as a southern Dublin man. Yet yourself and the remainder of your unionist brethren worship this man but at the same time resent everything south of the border. And by the way, demographics are changing, the protestant majority in Belfast is now gone. The North of Ireland has no foreseeable future.
NO SURRENDER GOD BLESS HM KING WILLIAM THE THIRD
No surrender plays like a broken record.
Willy is in Hell along with Himmler and Mussolini.
MsRhuby was here July 19, 2023
i am from co kerry and believe in a proud orange peoples united with a proud irish nation within a proud independant ireland.
michael griffin it’ll be a cold day in hell before I’ll ever call myself proud Irish!
Loyal to the core.
TheRABman _ But you are Irish! Similar to how a Welshman is welsh and a Scotsman is Scottish all of which are also British.
Fuck all you can do bout it....you go across the water and you'll be called a paddy. ....bet that gets up your noses...
You walked right into that one ...those people dont want to be friends with you ...theyd kill your grandmother and celebrate...I find it great when they show their hatred towards us....
@@therabman_5606 What are loyal to. ..???? Do you stand to attention with your stiff upper lip when the queen drones out her speech at Christmas. No wonder you're the laughing stock of the world ...
This story gives a false narrative. Unionists were not worried about religious persecution or economic disadvantages, it was all about supremacy. Supremacy born from the Protestant ascendency at a time of penal laws which gave them higher status and made them 'superior' in their view. They look down on native Irish Catholics whose land they stole. This is proven now with the churches having lost their power and the South going from being much poorer to much richer. Still Ulster Protestant Unionists refuse unification. Strange bigotted people with bigotted culture. That's the truth.
At the time there was a worse alternative to partition. A pull out of the hritish giverment resultong in potentially 100 of thousands of deaths.
with the EU will the call go out again!
UNITED British Ireland.
In time Wales and Scotland will leave, too.
Why do you need to be ruled from some other island? Is your own one no good?
UK should handover northern ireland to the replublic of ireland.
Randall Bermudez fuck off!!! Ulster loyalist say no surrender, the place will be a war zone again
@@therabman_5606 like the dinosaurs .,,a dying breed...
Try that and you'll get an Ulster UDI faster than you can say "No Surrender"
@@therabman_5606 we are happy to be part off the uk
@@therabman_5606 :: If that is what it takes, well the English Taxpayers will not stand idly by. They will stop paying Dole to Religious-Lunatics in the, no more to be "6-County-Colony". Ireland for Irish Rule - England for English Rule. Freedom- Freedom- Freedom.
Carson was leader of the Irish Unionists before WW1. Huge losses in WWI. Home Rule BILL/Rome rule was postponed until after the war. Loyalist militias were set up in Down Londonderry Antrim Armagh. Carson drew up the Convanent while James Craig reorganised the Ulster Unionist Volunteer Force.
Everybody had huge losses....." home tule/ Rome rule...lol...I suppose you think Ulster's protestants are one of the ten lost tribes of Israel as well...lol..
Sectarian Terror Militias. Birth of Presbyterian Terrorism.
@@michaelahern6821 The Reformation and Protestantism clearly was never anything about believeing them selves to be one of the 'Lost Ten Tribes of Israel'.
Hi mr Thomas
1912 was the worst year for Northern Ireland
+Becca. Northern Ireland didn't exist until 1921...
A genuine question for unionists/loyalists which is sincere before we get in to a tit for tat argument. With absolutely no offense intended I would like to ask, with the German army trying to take over Europe and the UK and rightly the British resisting. I'm trying to understand why they cannot understand Ireland wanting the right to liberation and to govern it's own people. Colonialism is nothing more than oppression. Again this is my opinion and I would love to hear from an opposition
I'm an Ulster Unionist and a British citizen.
Landmass does not equate to Nation State.
If the Irish Free State has the Right to breakaway from the UK and determine its own political future then so does British Northern Ireland from that State. Self-determination for both. The issue ever since has been acceptance of this Right.
Dublin born Irishman, Edward Carson forseen what was to come to the British Unionist citizens on an all island State.
Not once was our British Identity taken into consideration in the creation of the Irish Republic. It was the totalitarian nature of Irish Nationalism that split Ireland politically.
@@nowisthetime6093 But the number of hardline unionists is decreasing just as they are in Scotland. The UK is dying.
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A different matter entirely and absolutely nothing to do with the question posed.
@@nowisthetime6093 It was the totalitarian nature of British colonialism eradicating culutre and language that gave rise to Irish Nationalism.
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Again a different matter entirety from the question posed but I'll play...
Yes, such was the History of the time. One people dominated another. It has happened the world over time immorial until mid 20th century when certain Universal Rights were introduced and promoted by the UN.
At the time though Catholic Ireland did go on to create an Irish Free State with help from the Jesuits that was totally alien to the island's Northern populous. (Gaelic, Catholic, Nationalist)
Hence Northern Ireland was created in response as this Video clearly points out.
That Free State then went onto hold territorial rights over another Nation that was not theirs to hold and helped justify a campaign for Irish Republicans who were chomping at the bit to bomb and murder with an attempted Marxist Coup from 69 onwards. aka... 'The Troubles'.
There are many islands divided politically around the globe and many individual islands make up an Archipelago of a single Nation.
Northern Ireland is part of a politically divided island that is part of the British Archipelago known around the globe as the British Isles.
As i've already pointed out Ulster Unionists have as much a right to determine their own future as Irish Nationalists. It has has been acceptance of that right by intransigent Irish Nationalism that's been the crux of the islands political problems ever since.
Any response from the original poster?
Never surrender
Spoken like a true Japanese soldier.
@J J with a bit of gentle encouragement, yes.
Ireland for the Irish ....☝️🟩⬜️🟧⭐️
We are Irish ya weapon 🇬🇧
Ireland for EU citizens
Unfortunate event.
Fortunate event for a people wanting to self-determine their own future.
Northern Ireland has the Right to exist!
@@nowisthetime6093 Northern Ireland has a legal right to exist unless and until its people vote for unity. Your side does not have a veto on democracy now they way you did in 1912. Time to come out of the 17th century.
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We have Unity in a United Kingdom.
Do try to keep up...
@@nowisthetime6093 When a tail wags the dog...well...that cant be right...
@@mango2005 It never had the right to exist look what happened after it...
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Blah do blah I'm a paddy don't be know!
Birth of the u.v.f.
I still don't understand why? Can someone explain please?
explain what?
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Just stop already! Sectarianism in Ulster is nothing more than a smokescreen overshadowing the actual point of contention. The driving issues in Ulster are about class warfare & territory. I challenge any deniers of this claim to convince me otherwise. Belfast, UK.
Robert Kelly Irish Republicans had nothing to do w/ "home rule". It was granted them by Westminster.
Eric Bush Wrong it was a massive failure and was not true Independence Ireland is Independent now fuck Home Rule it a republic we wanted they Brits can stuff their puppet government.
Robert Kelly what about the Catholic unionist were they spared from the gas chambers ya fucking idiot
It all about Catholic v Protestants stop sugar coating historical facts.
love your wee edit mate! especially how you've changed your mind about catholics who enjoy being a part of the UK are traitors aha you're really hilarious thinking its purely Hun V Taig when in actual fact it gets deeper than that, so way read talk to more unionists and nationalists of both religions and pick yourself up a history book D.P. Maron ye
I think that those politicians should have kept Ulster not Northern Ireland
Why? They already kept 2 counties with nationalist majorities why keep 3 more that had much larger nationalist majorities
Casement. The Conspiracy?
Stale. Heard it all before. Just as tiresome as the other -ism. Time to move on.
A lost opportunity to have those British, who were never happy in Ireland, to be repatriated to the "Mainland" and give Ireland its independence, which, by way of a democratic election, is what the majority in Ireland wanted.
Ayy lmao
carson looks like a cross dresser
And to think the hate and loathing of Catholicism and the Irish identity displayed in those times is now referred to as '' Culture'' by todays Unionists