This Deleted Scene Would Have Changed Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Often times when a film director leaves a scene on the cutting room floor, it's for a good reason. Though when David Yates was finishing Harry Potter and the two part Deathly Hallows installments, one deleted scene could have added world of closure to Harry Potter's life at Number 4 Privet drive. When Harry Potter is leaving his childhood home in the finished film, it all seems very quick and emotionless. But with just a few minutes of deleted dialogue added back in, it could have given audiences the closure Harry needed from the Dursley's and his childhood home.
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I wish that they'd have kept in the scene with the Dursleys, as it not only would have given them closure, but would have given some much needed character development to Dudley, and have Harry reflect on his upbringing more.
Yeah what I often don't hear in the comments is Dudley's character development and how he breaks free from his parents influence.
Cause most people don't realise that Dudley didn't hate Harry for his magic, he tormented him because he's a small and frail freak which was taught to be okay by his parents, all his future bully victims are described as being small and frail, due to it the norm for Dudley and is what Dumbledore ment in how the Dursleys "damaged" Dudley not just with him being spoiled and obesity.
That character development in Dudley's farewell here would've been a really good payoff to his encounter with the Dementors in Order of the Phoenix, like in the books.
(Correct me if I'm wrong on the books, it's been a while since I've read them.)
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@@jacksamson1239 Exactly
People dont realize that Harry being a horcrux, influenced the Dursleys to be even worse than they would have been. I know i know, they were bad before harry, Petunia was just a jealous immiture person, you have to remember that the real ages of everyone at the time of Voldy was late teens early 20's.
I cant believe they removed this. Harry learning the Soulja Boy was my favorite part of the book.
Even more impressive given the story takes place like ten years before it was invented!
It’s a pivotal scene that provides much needed context to the final free style battle between him and Voldemort, how the then mortal Tom Riddle loses his final horcrux causing him to trip on his Crip Walk and fade into nothingness.
What does “Harry learning the Soulja Boy” mean?
@@sparkyheberling6115 It’s a dance from the mid-2000’s
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Petunia: I lost a sister.
Harry. You could have gained a nephew.
She already had a nephew
Yes, it's well written and delivered dialogue because it somewhat humanises Petuna but it shows that she's still unwilling to give Harry's feelings the tiniest bit of throught
Petunia: I lost a sister.
Harry: You could have gained a son.*
@@redpandalove4861 That works better
Nephew or son, this line would've been so good! Television airings of Harry Potter movies usually have deleted scenes added in, so there are people who only know this movie with the Petunia scene. It's good that there's a version of this movie with some closure to the Dursleys, but for Petunia to get one last bit of humanization instead of Dudley seems weird! I'd have liked if Harry called her out on it.
I’m glad they didn’t include Petunia’s line, in the books they did it best, where you know she is thinking about saying something to Harry, but she can’t bring herself to do it. And that’s best because it’s not deserved, when you’re an adult and unashamedly abuse a child in your care for 10 years than you don’t deserve to forgiveness, or sympathy.
This is unlike Dudley who was only doing the thing he was taught and when he got older, and was more mature, he was able to see that he’d done a lot of wrong in his life, especially to Harry. He deserves a redemption because he was just a kid, and he did do some unprompted acts of kindness before the goodbye (even if Harry didn’t realise it)
That's right. The moment with Dudley was necessary. It shows that at least he tried to mend his mistakes, that their relationship can be better with effort...
I think Petunia's line is so well written because the humanising is so limited. She gives a bit of her own reason, but she's also continuing to be thoughlessly cruel to Harry
The movies were god awful from 4 to 7. 1 to 3 were the only good ones.
I feel the lines showed that she spent her last moments with the only living remnants of that same sister, guilting him and making it about her, like she always does.
I think it should be included.
It's not about the forgiveness or even the full sympathy you feel towards the character and forgiving what they did. Instead it's about giving a window into the character and some of the struggles they went through. It was showing that Harry was the daily reminder of the sister she lost, the life at which she wished she was and the danger present.
She was an awful person, but void of emotion, sadness and grief. It is similar to Snape, his memories and life experiences don't justify the actions he chose but at the same time Snape wasn't necessarily evil...just wasn't a good person.
Yeah, she lost a sister. And then went on to terrorize and abuse the boy her sister died for. It's not a humanizing moment so much as it's an abuser getting one last shot in at the abused.
Yeah, I love the layers in that line and delivery
Petunia had some angst toward her sister and harry because she felt upstaged by not being magical herself. That's one place the abuse came from. I read a really compelling theory once SPOILER ALERT which given how we see Harry, Ron, & Hermoine react to the horcrux in Deathly Hallows 1 where it puts them on edge, even bringing Harry and Ron to blows. We then find out that Harry was himself a horcrux and the Dursley's lived with Harry unaware of this fact for ten or eleven years before shipping him off to Hogwarts. Vernon and Petunia likely had some animosity over being landed with an extra kid to raise. That feeling was magnified and could never heal because of Harry being a Horcrux.
Yeah, that line never sat right with me. You have grief for losing your sister, and your response was to take it out on your nephew, your sister's son.
@@mechajay3358 She did lose a sister
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You missed Mechajay's point, if she was really that sad about loosing a sister, she should have used the opportuinity to at least build a good relationship with Harry.
I think it also kinda shows how Petunia was incapable of thinking about anyone but herself. She clearly never cared that Harry lost his parents and how at the end she never said nor eluded to being sympathetic about him losing his very parents, instead opting to guilt Harry over there lost of _her_ sister.
Grief does that to a person though. In this case they didn't want any 'evil' characters having a great character arc though.
Interesting how differently she and Lily ended up. Potter's aunt I think was always super bitter about not having magic and no magical kid which is up for debate considering the Dementor sighting.
Bella L
She was emotionally damaged from what happened and never recovered, maybe that's why she was such a mean character
The movies really made her confusing…she hated magic because she had none, she calls her sister a freak, mistreated her nephew, etc. but then all of a sudden this ‘I lost a sister’. Book Petunia absolutely despised her sister and the Potters to the point of obsession that even the mere mention of the magical world was taboo around her.
I'm very happy you guys decided to highlight this lost moment, it adds a lot more context to the whole situation
They could've left so many other pointless bits out of that movie too.
Bella L
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I have this vague memory of the goodbye scene in the book where the Dursley's are about to leave and Dudley asks if Harry is going with them. As if he assumed that was the case and was shocked when the answer was no. I remember it being the first time I didn't hate Dudley, because despite him being a jerk to Harry, he cared about him to some extent. I was sad that was left out of the film.
It reminded me that he was just a spoiled kid and of the influence his terrible parents had on him. He's capable of change where the adults are not.
Indeed he grew up and somehow managed to improve.
If memory serves I think he even thanked Harry for saving him from the Dementors during that scene too, and Petunia admits their strong dislike of magic was in part meant to keep Harry from suffering a similar fate as her mother did.
Same, his parents just influenced him badly. It wasn't really his fault
@@paranoiarpincess Fr
I think Dudley's scene would have been a great addition. His aunt, not so much.
Yes. He was interesting. The Dementor bit with him should've been expanded more in books as well. In fact Rowling could've done taht with her need to drop tidbits later rather than pushing poor DD into the broom closet and dragging him out for attention. LOL. Just saying.
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both of them were in the movies
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@@BlueTheCrewnot in the US cinema release.
@@mik1of3 well its still in it
One thing that even removed from the book is that Dudley leave a food and drink in Harry's room and Harry think it was a prank,until when Dudley said that Harry isn't a waste a space, thinking that the cookie that he gave wasn't a prank but as a gratitude.
It was a cup of tea left outside the room, on the floor. Harry accidentally stepped on it.
This scene with petunia doesn’t “humanize” her at all, it just shows her level of narcissism, trying to minimize Harry’s mother literally being murdered in front of him, and make it about herself and her own loss of a sister age both loathed and disowned
Watch the behind the scenes features on these movies and you can hear how saddened the filmmakers were to cut it, saying that it just made the whole beginning of the movie come to a halt and they couldn’t make it work the way they wanted
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They could've left out some more pointless bits, perhaps.
Excuses, excuses. It would have taken two minutes.
I did read the last book before watching the movie and I remember feeling a bit angry about them not including the moment with Dutly, because It was my favorite moment in the book and a part I still remember.
I was vexed they left out Kreacher's tale.
I’m apparently the only one who does NOT like the Petunia scene… She treated her sister horribly when she was alive, & tortured her sister’s child for 17 years afterwards…. Then acts as if Harry should be feeling sorry for her loosing her sister more than mourning loosing his mom… it just rubs me the wrong way. I DO love Dudley’s turn around though. 💕
I don't like it either, it's completely out of character for Petunia anyway, she pretended she didn't have a sister when Lily was alive, and didn't care when she died, if she did she would have treated Harry better and wouldn't have allowed Marge Dursley to speak so badly about her in POA. This is why the scene isn't in the books, it doesn't make sense for Petunia’s to character. I agree with Dudley’s scene too, they should have left that in.
No! Petunia did hate her nephew,sister and husband in law, but deep inside, she loved all of them! That’s what the scene shows! 😡😡😡
It's good they remove the Petunia scene. The Dudley scene shows that he has matured beyond his parents and actually views Harry as a person. Vernon and Petunia never do in the books. The movies added Petunia's line and give her a redemption she doesn't deserve. They're both horrid and Harry isn't sad to see the back of them. The Dudley scene should've stayed though.
Agreed, well said.
Yeah they should also have included a small scene about how Dudley and Harry are at least on Christmas card terms because that would bring their kids closer together than they themselves ever were and show how, despite having horrid parents, Dudley was able to rise above and hopefully teach his kids to be better people because of it.
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Its in the book you ifiot
I'm very glad they cut the Petunia scene. It's sympathetic, and very well done, but it never happens in the books and it's never set up in the movies.
The Dudley scene should've stayed though. Powerful, serves a similar purpose for closure, true to the book, and (somewhat) teed up in prior movies.
I agree! The Dudley scene was extremely important, but not the made up Petunia one.
Yes, agreed. Well said.
I love this deleted scene, except for the fact that petunia deserves no redemption at all. But the Dudley part is amazing.
Agreed. Well said.
It doesn't give her redemption anyway. It highlights her narcissism and selfishness even more. Those would have potentially been her last words to Harry, and she made it about HER loss. She lost her sister and then treated her sister's son like garbage for 11 years. No apology, no kind words, no hint that she cares about anything but herself. Dudley's words are not about himself. He shows kindness to Harry to the best of his ability. He's matured beyond his parents, and it's clear he cares for his cousin. His parents taught him to treat Harry that way as a child, but those words show that he recognizes how wrong it was. In the books, Harry and Dudley do go on to have a relationship in the future. They don't disappear from each other's lives. It is amazing yes.
@@UnfazedPhoenix I see where you're coming from, but I feel like the way they played it was to humanize and rationalize her behavior. If they played it more along those lines, like harry being more dismissive, or even showing some level of aggravation to her words, I think it would've played so much better, like how you're suggesting. I prefer your interpretation though.
Agreed
What this does so well, especially the way Harry Melling showed how Dudley confronted that realisation. It's humanising without making anything he did okay
Well said.
Agreed
The dementors did wonders on dudley.
That they did.
I would've liked to see taht expanded upon and how he saw them as in squib, or laitent magic or what?
Yes!
I thought that'd make Dudley ask some questions....but maybe it just gave him enough pause to see Harry differently.
(And, I'd initially thought the reason the Dursleys showered Dudley with gifts and attention was because Petunia, deep down, thought/feared that ONE SMALL TANTRUM might've released latent magical abilities in Dudley, and that would've really wrecked her life!...But, perhaps I'm overthinking this...
Rowling has said that the dementors forced Dudley to see himself as everybody but his parents see him. He came to understand just what a monstrous brat he truly was.
I think learning what the dementors were and what they could do to people probably also made Dudley realize just what kind of danger Harry truly faced. Learning that Harry had saved not just his life, but his very soul probably made Dudley realize that Harry was a good person and didn't deserve the abuse his parents taught him to visit upon the boy who was practically his brother.
It doesn't get much more nerdstalgic than this...
Uh, Petunia comes very close to responding to Harry's 'olive branch' (if you can call it that), but does not (DH, p. 42). Same with Vernon (p. 38). Seems to me that JKR is making it very clear that Harry does NOT get the emotional catharsis with the Dursleys you believe he deserves and that the movie should have given him (sans Dudley, a really sweet moment).
I think leaving that part of Harry's life 'undone,' so to speak, actually adds to the emotional weight of the farewell. If you complain about HBP not following source material, perhaps you should be grateful they follow it in this scene.
Yeah. I always felt the point of Dudley giving Harry a real goodbye and showing some sincere love was to show his arc and how you can be a better person. He may have been a real prick but he bonds with Harry post dementor attack. He broke the cycle of hate. His parents could never do that and to me that was part of the point, breaking the cycle.
i never felt the scene with petunia gave harry any sort of catharsis. it shows she felt pain but that is overshadowed by her complete disregard for harry's pain
To this day, I don't buy Petunia.
She lost a sister, did she.
This was a sister who, long after she died, she called a "freak".
Petunia did NOT "lose" a sister. She threw her away! Rejected the "freak" completely, until she was burdened with the orphaned son. ZERO sympathy.
Yeah it was not in the books, it is not in her character because of what you just said.
Yes and no, from reading the books you can also discover that Petunia wanted to go to Hogwarts to be with her sister. Dumbledore did not see it in her. Petunia loved Lily and they were close as children, and it was almost like she lost her sister twice, once to the wizarding world and then from existence. She could have treated Harry differently for sure, but maybe she was just so consumed in her grief that she held Harry responsible somehow for her sister's death.
They do play the one deleted sceen with his aunt petunia on tv alot.
I did not know, nice. We didn't make it to that one during December when the movies were able to be streamed due to being holiday busy. I think we were middle of poa, lol.
Also, the dudley scene explains the tea outside Harry's door in the 6th film
You mean at the start of the 7th book? The 6th film never showed the Dursley's house.
Very true.
The Deathly Hallows films made me so mad because they cut so many amazing scenes. I’ll never forget the original ending of the fight between Harry and Voldemort, which in the book was leaps and bounds better. I was so disappointed when I saw the movies in theaters.
Kreacher's tale was huge and should've been there as well. I agree with you, though I was not disappointed by the movies, for I did not bother seeing them. After the first 3, they just got less and less like the books so I stopped watching.
I did not read the books but listened to them on tape. However I do remember the scene where Neville kills Nagini being much different in the books. The way I remember it and picture it in my head he kills Nagini in front of everyone including Voldemort right after he pulls the sword out of the sorting hat after his speech to Voldemort telling him he will die in vain, then there is a moment of stunned silence just before the battle ensues afterward. Or maybe I just imagined that but I think it would be a much better way to show him killing Nagini.
I was so disappointed I cried a little.
The problem with the movie they missed so much about the Deathly Hollows .
When I was watching the entire series with a friend of mine (his first watch) I paused Deathly Hallows pt. 1 and showed him the deleted scene before continuing on
haha nice.
The goodbye with Dudley truly is heartwarming. Yes the character wasn’t nice to his cousin, but it did show he grew over the years away from just a spoiled brat who tormented his cousin into someone who does care about Harry in a way
Agreed. And now he realizes they won't have the chance to work it out.
What do you mean Ron knew he wouldn't sit down to dinner that night? Hermione and Harry *went to The Burrows* when they left their homes. They were all there until the night of the wedding.
I agree with you, these scenes would add so much in Harry ‘ s development
You are wrong! Mrs Dursley shouldn't have a humanizing scene!
Facts.
I was about to write about how Petunia didn't deserve any redemption, but I see that enough people covered it. Dudley is canon, so it made sense though.
haha, there is always a different spin one can take, various reasons etc. Seriously though, yes.
“I lost a sister”....this character did Not deserve redemption. She had years and squandered it for her petty cruel revenge...
I doubt that scene alone completely redeems Petunia. The other scene does more heavy lifting to partially redeem Dudley for me.
Petunia turned her back to lily the moment she got her Hogwarts letter and Petunia did not.. filled with pure envy and grudge.. hence deserves no redemption!
Would love to see you cover the scene that was omitted, where Draco was actually the one who threw Harry the wand once he woke up (against Volde)
You can't hide the fact that a theme throughout the Potter books and movies is - child abuse. There seems to be a fine line where it is celebrated in the wizarding world.
As a kid i didn´t pay much attention to part 1, as I grew up and rewatched the series I found the contemplating low pace that the movie had suitable for the moment of the series, like a calm before the storm kind of thing. It also led to two of my favorite scenes of the saga, them being the dance betweeen Harry and Hermione and the talk they have about leaving it all behind and just settling down in the middle of nowhere and live a quiet life.Imo this scenes could've 100% made the movie better, I wish they had put them. But these scenes not being in the movie dont make like it any less(maybe a little).
Edit: Turns out the HP movie announced and released split first, with Breaking Dawn releasing a year later.
Yeah, the split as a means to mimic what Twilight had done with its final book was definitely unnecessary, and those spare few minutes of cut content would have added a lot more to the story.
Deathly Hallows part 1 came out in 2010. Breaking Dawn part 1 came out in 2011, so Twilight was mimicking Harry Potter, not the other way around.
@@kyuubinaruto17 Looked it up to double-check, and holy shit, you're right. Deathly Hallows being split into two was even announced back in '08, with Breaking Dawn's split being announced in June, 5 months before Deathly Hallows released in 2010.
That time in my life is a friggin blur, so I only barely remembered the movies coming out around the same time. Either my brain made the assumption, or maybe I heard it elsewhere with another assumption it was true.
@@cursedseagullgamesWell, I certainly didn't remember it offhand, though I was pretty sure I heard Twilight did it second(probably from a Cinemasins video), so I just went to Google and looked up release dates.
Totally agree, this was an emotional and important part.
The fact they even filmed that Petunia scene is ridiculous. Her character didn't deserve that and that humanity was never demonstrated in the books.
The only Dursley that deserved ANY redemption is Dudley. That scene was so important and should have been included. It should have been slightly more expanded than what we saw here, even...
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When reading the books i waited and waited for dudley to finally see harry as a real person and not just an object to abuse. He changed a little when harry saved him from the dementor. It gave me great satisfaction when dudley finally showed, in his own way, that he appreciated what harry had done. 7:59
such powerful scenes
Big D is already dudley's nickname
true.
i think an added simple im sorry Harry from pertunia before she walks off would have added even more to that scene
Yeah but it just isn't her. You can't do taht much to a person and be sorry.
Bella L
She's the leopard who couldn't change her spots.
These two scenes would have made a big impact. Also the scene where ron and hermonie connects in the second part, and skipps rocks. I wish they would've never deleted these, they add so much depth and character and emotions in the movies.
They really should’ve kept the scenes. Dudley telling Harry, “I don’t think you’re a waste of space” made me cry when I read the book 😭
I like part one of The Deathly Hallows.
But I hate that Dobbie died! My heart is broken for that Free Elf!
I absolutely loved seeing Big D make amends to Harry in his own way.
Very heartwarming.
Another great video love your content. Indeed those scenes are really great I don’t understand why they cut those short but meaningful scenes.
As much as I like these scenes, I'm gonna have to disagree on this one. I feel like the dialogue really would've halted all the momentum the intro had built up.
Plus if you still wanna watch them, they're available on RUclips and the DVD extras, so you can have your cake and eat it too.
Warner Bros needs to release extended versions of all of the Harry Potter films and add every deleted scene!
This reeks of Thanos "loving" Gamora
I love the fact that these characters and this story has an amazing existence, still, in our reality. All beginning in one person's imagination.
the original harry potter series should have been a couple of television seasons, i wil die on this hill. i truly believe that an honestly adapted television series would be so so good. while the movies did capture the magic of the books pretty well, a lot of big plot points and arcs didn't happen and that pisses me off so bad. the hermione spew arc, blast ended skrewts and the headless hunt stories could be so fun in a visual format. obviously they can do that again (and are doing that ig) but getting accustomed to a new cast when the previous is just so iconic will be hard, regardless of good the show is.
I agree.
I like Snape and despite Rickman giving a masterful performance, the films sometimes do Snape dirty. Especially in the Pensieve memory scenes which go by so fast. If you had never read the books and seen only the films, you would never have found out that Snape grew up with a worse childhood than Harry's and who grew up so poor that he made the Weasleys look wealthy by comparison. Seriously, Young Film Snape looked more middle class than Young Film Lily.
Honestly, I'm most disappointed that they didn't include some of the best lines from Vernon in that final goodbye scene in the books. The whole back-and-forth in DH to make absolutely sure that the entire Second Wizarding War is not a complex real estate scam by his nephew to take possession of the house? Utterly thorough, no notes.
The whole sassy banter between Vernon and Harry throughout the books is criminally underrated.
Also, I find it weird that no one ever admits that Vernon Dursley is a certified Wife Guy.
Whoever wrote the script for this episode is a fantastic writer.
Thank you for sharing. Those bits would have improved the move and kept these excellent actors from becoming mere furniture in the movies... a bit of scenery. The Dursleys are, after all, Harry's backstory even until the end.
It also shows that Petunia knows more about the magical world then she ever gave on.
For me Petunia was always resentful and jealous of her sister. She even wrote a letter to Dumbledore asking to let her study at Howgarts. Dumblefore of course, rejected her request and explained that muggles can't learn magic no matter how much they try it.
From this moment onwards I could say that she didn't really love her sister. I mean how can you be jealous of your own family?
I believe that when Lily died, she felt more scared rather than sad and all her love for her sister was gone.
I think them simply walking away is completely in character. They didn't care about him at all. In their minds it would have been like saying goodbye to a doorknob. Not just any doorknob but one they didn't like and would never think of again.
They should've kept that Harry and Dudley scene in. Give some closure to the Dursleys especially since that scene of Petunia mourning her sister despite her years of poor treatment to Harry never sat right with me.
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Oh agreed 1000%. I’ve been saying this since I first saw those deleted scenes over ten years ago. It’s a travesty that they cut them (especially the one with Petunia IMO). It really would’ve made that movie so much better!
Also am I the only one who’s always driven crazy when I watch those scenes by the fact that Dudley’s t-shirt is the same green as the green screen in the background? 🤣
I agree. Those scenes should've made the cut.
Honestly, I'm most disappointed that they didn't include some of the best lines from Vernon in that final goodbye scene in the books. The whole back-and-forth in DH to make absolutely sure that the entire Second Wizarding War is not a complex real estate scam by his nephew to take possession of the house? Utterly thorough, no notes.
The whole sassy banter between Vernon and Harry throughout the books is criminally underrated.
Also, I find it weird that no one ever admits that Vernon Dursley is a certified Wife Guy.
Almost made me cry just seeing the behind the scenes clips here
They were trying to protect him. The Dursley's were aware of magic and his aunt had lost a sister to it. They genuinely thought that if any family history of magic or sign of magic in Harry was suppressed then he might live a normal (safe) life.
Sure but like u know they treated him bad
I think all three Dursleys
Uncle Vernon may be the only one that never really cares about Harry
Aunt Petunia shows here and there that she actually cares
Just that she has mixed feelings for Harry, just like she did for Lily
Dudley may be the one that cares for Harry the most
He never truely "hate" or "dislike" Harry
He was just spoild and enjoying bullying the weirdo
As he outgrew the childliness, he sees Harry as a family that he grows up with
Petunia lost her sister decades before, out of envy and bitterness that Lily was magical and she wasn't. In the book she begged Dumbledore to let her attend Hogwarts. He let her down as gently as he could, but that's when her hatred began.
TLDR; Vernon got closure, Dudley said good-bye to a brother and Petunia's scene is completely perfect.
When I first watched these two deleted scenes they blew my mind. In the final cut it feels like Vernon is the only one who has closure with Harry, always hating Harry and even though he has to leave his house he gets to leave probably the one person he hates in the world "This isn't boy good-bye is it? It's farewell." then he just waves off, probably the kindest way he could say good-bye. It's very much like him.
With Dudley, he saw Harry in a new light when the dementor tried to eat his happiness before Harry stopped it even if he didn't understand what happened at that moment and thinking Harry did it all himself it probably dawned on him later that Harry saved them both from actual monsters. To me he was saying good-bye to a brother.
Then with Petunia it was actually shocking to hear people say they didn't care about her deleted scene. I think it was perfect. In the books they showed that she and Lily were practically best friends and wanted to go to Hogwarts too but didn't understand why she couldn't which causes her jealousy. Then later is given the news her sister is dead and was given her nephew by Dumbledore hoping she'd raise him and love him like a son. To Petunia, Harry represented that jealousy and resentment she felt for Lily and then that notion all shatters when she says "I lost a sister." and Harry never thought of that.
I agree. Those scenes should've made the cut.
Honestly, I'm most disappointed that they didn't include some of the best lines from Vernon in that final goodbye scene in the books. The whole back-and-forth in DH to make absolutely sure that the entire Second Wizarding War is not a complex real estate scam by his nephew to take possession of the house? Utterly thorough, no notes.
The whole sassy banter between Vernon and Harry throughout the books is criminally underrated.
Also, I find it weird that no one ever admits that Vernon Dursley is a certified Wife Guy?
I simply cannot understand Petunia’s treatment of Harry. I don’t have a sister, but I have 2 brothers, and I could never imagine treating one of their children so badly. I would love them as if they were my own children! And when my brothers have a big win in their lives, I am thrilled for them! Not jealous! I guess that’s because I really love my brothers, and Petunia only loves herself.
It really struck me that Chapter 3 was almost totally omitted from the movie. Dudley asking, “Why isn’t he coming with us?” That’s probably the only line from the book I can quote and it was just gone. And then shaking Harry’s hand. Just the few seconds of that one deleted scene would have changed everything about the sterile goodbye and it’s something that strikes me every time we re-watch the movie. Thanks for this video, I felt like I was alone in this feeling.
Thinking that very same thing after seeing the part 1 opening again for the umpteenth time. They didn’t do it justice.
I think the scene with Dudley should have been included but NOT the scene with Petunia. She didn’t care for her sister when she was alive, never contacting her, etc. So I seriously doubt that she missed her once she was dead.
i feel like it makes sense why these scenes were removed. the mood of the entire last 2 movies were set, and these scenes just flip the mood. it changes the aim of the movies from finding the Horcruxes to finding closure of the smallest part of the HP films. it'd close out the starting of the first few movies nicely, i wont deny that, but when we're already into the dark nature of the series, it would've taken away from the seriousness of the end goal.
David Yates was the worst thing to happen to these movies
I'm certain Petunia has a scene in the book. It's the thing I was expecting to be referenced before I even clicked on the video. I don't have the books anymore, but it's definitely a scene that has stuck in my head since it showed a shred of humanity from her and explained why she kept Harry despite showing nothing but hate and contept for him growing up.
Big D's line hit hard. 😢❤ We needed that! Petunia can just go ahead and eff all the way off, though.
I have read the book and seen the movies. I knew, a long time ago, that everything in the books doesn't make it to the screen. The Hunger Games books had plenty in them that didn't make it to the screen, either. Even though Mockingjay was split in half. So, it happens to everything, eventually.
weird, we definitely saw these 2 scenes when this movie was first released in the theater, I remember distinctly those very lines coming from Aunt Petunia, especially because it wasn't in the book, idk if we saw an early version or something or if this is some kind of Mandela Effect, but that was definitely in the version we saw when it first came out....
I remember the Petunia scene as well, and I'm so surprised at how long I had to scroll to find a comment mentioning that! And not just from watching it in theaters, I could swear I see this scene every time the movie is on TV
when i went to the movie i was waiting for the Dudley goodbye scene, and was VERY disappointed when is wasn't there
Yes it was lacking without this scene
I wish they wouldn't have taken those scenes out. Now I want an extended version, including them.
Dudley's farewell to Harry -- and later, the Malfoys' appearance in the Great Hall -- are two of the most powerful and redemptive moments in the series. I wish they hadn't been tampered with/omitted from the films.
Yes!!!
' i dont think you are a waste of space.. ' tis line pack a punch :_O
Henry Melling (Dudley) is an incredible actor. I've seen some of his other performances and for me at least it surpasses what I've seen from some of his fellow child actors.
If you watch them on any Comcast affiliate (mainly USA and SyFy) these scenes were added back in. It actually made the Dursleys almost seem kind. Also I believe they were added back in with the last bluray release. Dudley shook Harrys hand and told him "I dont think you're a waste of space" while nervously looking at his dad, and in the house there was a scene between Harry and Aunt Petunia where she tells harry about how she felt when Lily died "You didnt just lose a mother, I lost a sister"
this absolutely should have been included
OK, I'm confused. I saw that scene with Dudley and Harry at the end. Did I just see it on youtube as a clip? Or did the video/dvd or a version edited for television include it?
Yes, those further 3+ minutes would have added LOTS to the movie. I remember the Dudley-Harry scene from the book, but the Petunia- Harry scene would have completed a big gap.
Really, too bad, and poor decision by "that movie's "powers that be"".
Yeah, I will agree it is a bit disappointing that these scenes got deleted. I only ever read the first two Harry Potter books, so I’m not as familiar with how the Dursleys were in them, but I always thought they all seemed completely vile in the movies. This scene would’ve given them a bit more depth we never previously understood as viewers. They could’ve helped touch on how the difficulty of taking Harry in had to do with the strained relationship his aunt had with his mother. Was definitely a missed opportunity.
Dudley's moment is in the book. They should make all the movies including all the cut scenes. They would be a total success!
They really just needed the scene with Dudley.
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Petunia's hatred of Lilly stems from jealousy. Snape and Lilly discover Petunia's letter to Dumbledore begging him to allow her to attend Hogwarts and Dumbledore kindly refusing to admit her.
I really wish they could’ve just kept that whole beginning the same as it was in the book. Everything from, members of the Order of the Phoenix being already there, and especially keeping the exchange between Dudley and Harry. That moment is so awesome in the book not only from a character perspective growth perspective, but also for the fact that it’s just amazing in the book how touching of a moment that is to Harry even though at face value someone saying “I don’t think you’re a waste of space.” Would normally be seen as rude, coming from how Dudley usually treats him, you can tell in the book that Harry is willing to be forgiving and recognize/appreciate that gesture from Dudley. Which is canon This also lead to Harry and Dudley having a better relationship as adults.
Another thing that frustrated me was the fight between Harry and Voldemort. In the book there is a glorious end with Harry explaining exactly what Voldemort could not grasp, finishing with Voldemorts body falling heavily on the floor. In the movie he just dissapears into fragments. Just like Bellattrix. Also the breaking of the wand instead of repairing Harry's old one and putting the power wand back into Dumbledores grave is a huge error.
The preceding line "You don't think I know what they're capable of?" is just as meaningful, from a woman who first out of jealousy and later out of fear, pushed that world as far away from herself as she could. Though Harry was the one learning to be a fantastical wizard, in this context it was Petunia who had constructed a fantasy life with her electric drill salesman husband, which was now demolished.
Two very short but important scene cut for no good reason. The movie is already super long, a few more minutes won't change that, the impact of them is truly important.
"Not all the memories are bad ones"
*cuts to inflated Marge flying off*
I love the part in the book where Harry just sort of suddenly realizes that she was his mother's sister. The fact that this did not quite hit home to him before is entirely petunias fault, but still... And when dudley shook his hand it was just wow for me. And we know that Dudley did feel some remorse because years later when Petunia dies he sends Harry stuff that Petunia had kept from the night Dumbledore dropped him off.
Yes, It would give the movie more meaning, and a sense of reconciliation between Harry and the Dursleys
I'm gonna be honest, I'm looking forward to the Max Harry Potter show just so we can have fresh new actors playing these iconic characters.
I agree the two missing renewers sourly missed.
I wish they would have left the Dudley part in the movie. In the books Dudley did start to change and even left Harry food outside his door.
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Harry imagined everything while living with the Dursleys.
The Dursley's drive away, and Harry sits in the darkness of the closet and starts shooting up. Harry mumbles "expecto patronus..." Cue WB Harry Potter logo.
Wut
These scenes are in my copy of the movie. And yes, they do add depth to the film.
They missed so much from the books. These two scenes are the first ones I would added back in. They humanise the Dursleys and ground Harry so much. After this the Wensleydale brothers flooding floors of the castle would be a big one.