Calibrating Monitors and the Datacolor Spyder X Pro... Photographer Need This?
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2024
- This video explores monitor calibration and the Datacolor Spider Pro X
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I found with my spyder that even though I use indirect light, i had to hide the spyder under the table in order for it to say my room brightness was acceptable - it was ridiculous!
I’ve had my SpiderX Pro for a couple years now and I’ve had great results with it. Especially with printing my images at home. I calibrate every few months when it sends a reminder. Would recommend getting one if you’re a photographer.
I feel that monitor calibration is helpful if you plan on printing. Other than that it’s nice for the person looking at the calibrated screen but most viewers won’t share that calibration.
Interesting tool for streamer. The result n the screnn was very good. You gave great infos. Greets Stefan
Hello Scott and thank you for making this video. I own this product but my monitors did not match until I watched a video by ThioJoe called 10 Computer Mistakes Most People Make. The trick starts at about 4:33 and made me a very happy person. You might already be aware of it already but wanted to share it with the community. Cheers 😃
Thanks for sharing will watch
I am new to this but looking to calibrate my monitor for print so in Thios video he is talking about increasing the colour range. That may not be what I am after as I am not looking for the best image but representation of what my prints will look like and they will have less colour range due to the print process.
I own 2 monitors, both high end Dell. I calibrate these with the Spyder system also. The first monitor is about 10 years older than the newer 4K version, and when the computer is first fired up will look dimmer than the newer one. However, when fully warmed up the colors and brightness are identical.
I tried this product a few years ago and hated it. Whether the calibration is technically correct didn’t matter to me because it made my computer screen colors WAY off from every other device I used. Images I edited suddenly started looking very different on people’s phones, work computers, iPads, etc. I now just use the internal calibration on my HP computer. I then check how images look on my iPhone (and usually iPad too) before posting.
Thank you for this video! I am an artist and I am making prints of my paintings. I was worried that this was going to be difficult.
Hi Scott, I have been using the Spyder calibration units for about ten years or so. I have had good results with the system over the years. I had to update to a newer unit about five years ago because my older unit would no longer work on my new computer. My computer has a hood to reduce extraneous light so have to hold the sensor on the monitor. Since the speed of the calibration is so fast its not that bad. I have had great results with the calibration but only on a single monitor. What are the ages of your two monitors? Perhaps that is the difference. How long did you allow the monitors to warm up before calibration. I realize the its probably an LED monitor, but I always allow at least 30 minutes before calibration. I'm operating with an Apple iMac. Love your channel.
I have used Spyder Pro for years and I recalibrate my monitor once a month since they do shift. The shift isn't much though. It is well worth it to get accurate colors. Before I start to calibrate, I switch my screen background to empty white since during the process, the screen will flicker back to my background during the scanning. Probably an issue with my computer and not the Spyder software.
Unless I was printing I don't think I would bother too much. I have a rgb colour space Dell monitor that comes factory calibrated so its about close enough for me. If I was doing heaps of printing that would be another matter.
The problem with posting our images online is that we have no control over the monitor's or screens viewing our beloved work.
I would go as far as to say only a very small percentage of uses, wander the internet using a computer these days, most use phones and Ipads. We have no control over what they are seeing colour and brightness wise. Most of our hard work and effort is wasted as almost any image looks cool on a phone screen wither it actually contains sharp detail or not. The screens is so bright and small everything looks amazing.
It use to drive me nuts but in the end I had to accept this as part of the internet beast lol
Printing of course is another matter.
I really enjoy your vids and the fact that you cover such interesting subjects.
Thanks for an interesting review
I remember a few years ago when I was looking at these products that the one I wanted needed the software to be activated. I was concerned that I would not be able to use it on both my PC's.
Dont remember the brand.
I ended up switching to a mac for photo editing because I was under the impression colours on a mac were calibrated and good enough for my purposes.
The mac has better colours than my old PC so happy so far.
I may switch back to an normal PC again one day, so do any of these products need activation these days?
I’ve been looking into these tools recently. The Spyder X Elite has tools for matching side by side monitors. I’m really not sure why the calibration and profiling of two monitors wouldn’t make them the same. I think both versions probably use the same hardware they just have more software tools to support multiple monitors.
I am just looking into it - on the website they say that pro x model may be limited on dual monitors and say that the up versioned x2 can handle it better - whether or not its an upsale or not I can't say - but I know the x2 can be upgraded via software to one tier above to elite/ultra so the x2 may have better internals , whereas pro x maybe not?
it's worth noting that no monitor even calibrated can ever achieve "perfect" color, the tech doesn't exist yet theres plenty that hit 99% of various color spaces but I havent heard of any hitting 100% for more than just SRGB. Also especially if you have two different models of monitor theres a number of technical things that can lead to slightly different looks. The panel type (IPS, TA, VA), what the light emitting source and the type of filter mediums used can play a huge part. The max brightness varies dramatically across displays even the sub-pixel array being different on different monitors can have slight impacts on color.
I was pleasantly surprised at how similar your two displays got after calibration!
And if one monitor is a laptop and the other a desktop, you can calibrate as much as you want, you will never ever get them to look the same.
Thanks for sharing!I do not understand two things in the video quite well: Why did you choose a white screen (google-starting page) for comparing the color of the two monitors? It is hard to see how the two monitors do not match. And secondly, what was Datacolors answer on the question to the offset? Did you confront them with a mismatch, where their product should come in? I get an error after calibration of my BenQ with the BenQ software using the data color spyder, and I am not sure if it is the monitor/software, or an issue with the three year old calibration tool. Do you have any experience in some kind of aging of the calibration devices?
I own this product and have the same issue on a 2 monitor setup. My second monitor looks slightly washed out compared to my main after calibration, not sure why.
I get the same results. My main laptop screen always seems to have a magenta color cast and has more saturation than the my second monitor. Makes it hard to trust the calibration.
I bought the Datacolor Spyder X Pro from B+H a few months ago and now calibrate my monitor once a month. I bought it because I was about to print a Blurb book of my photos and wanted the photos to be as close to my original colors as possible. It is worth it if you want to print your photos.
I don't think there is much of a need unless printing or submitting to a contest. If you are posting to Instagram most people's devices are not calibrated and you would do fine just editing on what ever device your audience most uses.
That is my impression too
My experience is these products don’t do all that much, when in the end you’re at the mercy of the backend ….printer, processing company, website host. You’ll never get the same results elsewhere that you see on your own monitor. The value of these things is negligible.
i tried that on my BenQ special photography monitor and it didnt do a good job, i tried diferent settings and still dont like it, it was not consistent across devices and prints. i bought it trying to replace an old colormunki i had, but trying again the colormunki which was a basic model from years ago it did a great job, not like the spider x which i am so dissapointed at
BenQs come calibrated right out of the box and if you re-calibrate it every now and then as they should be, it should give you accurate colors. If it looks different on other monitors, most likely the other devices/cells/tablets are not calibrated. As for printing, you need to set up the printer to match the paper you use with the correct ICC profile and use the correct paper, i.e. Canon paper on Canon printers. Also, a print will always look different than what you see on your monitor since both are not lit the same - monitors are light sources and prints reflect ambient light.
I have this product. If you read the small print, you cannot calibrate two monitors running from the same video card. You have to buy and install a second video card. Very disappointing. Only get a calibrater if you are trying to match a monitor to a printer and because one relies on reflected light and the other does not, they still won't match. If you have a consumer grade monitor, this product will not help improve you color gamut and probably cant really do what it is designed to do. Very few people need this, and even those who do may not get the benefits they are hoping for.
Do you think iPhone displays are under saturated? I was shocked when I looked at my photos on an iPhone they looked washed out. I check them on an iMac and they looked nice and natural but still less saturated than my windows laptop.
In my experience, usually cell phone screens have a lot of contrast and saturation - much more than most computer screens.
In Windows the photo colours look different in Lightroom and then after exporting in Windows default Photo Viewer. Monitor is set to sRGB and photo exported in sRGB. Colour Profile selected in Windows Color Management is the BenQ provided one. In Nvidia Panel 10bit is selected.
Monitor is the BenQ SW240 1200p 24inch 99% Adobe RGB, 100% sRGB & 95% DCI-P3.
Any idea how to solve this difference between lightroom and windows default photo viewer app.
Thanks
This is taken from the Adobe's Q&A pages addressing the same question... "Unfortunately, this is expected behavior. LR (as well as Phototoshop) are colr managed. This means they take in acount the profile of your monitor before sending image values to it, in order to have the monitor display the colors as close as possible to what is written in the file.
Unfortunately, Windows Phot and Windows viewer are not color managed so thy do not take in account the monitor profile, resulting to incorrect colors displayed.
This is very visible if you display sRGB photo on a wide gamut monitor. They will appear avoersaturated with Windows photo or Windows viewer."
@@michelfalardeau8214 Thanks a lot 🙏🏽
Does this really only apply to stand alone monitors for desk top computers? Or can you /should you calibrate laptop monitors?
I recently purchased the Spyder X2 Elite to use with 2 external monitors docked into my laptop. Spyder will only acknowlege 1 of the external monitors. Tech Support is VERY unsupportive and tells me it is my inadequate set up: i.e. my 4 year old lap top is ancient, cant use with a docking station, etc. I did enough pre-purchase research and this information was not clearly evident. But they will not refund. Too bad for me. Overall a bad experience.
Can you use this on an iPad Pro or MacBook Pro to calibrate those screens? I have a BenQ I will calibrate but I do a lot of my editing on my iPad Pro. I want to start printing at home so want to make sure I get the best accuracy possible.
"Spyder X Pro / Spyder X Elite software works on macOS 14 Sonoma, macOS 13 Ventura, macOS 12 Monterey, macOS 11 Big Sur and on macOS 10.15 Catalina. The Spyder X software 5.8 / 5.9 is Universal Code and runs native on Apple Silicon M1/M2 and Intel based Macs." From the company
Nice over view on the calibration process and I would be interested in a comparison with the Calibrite ColorChecker sensor. They have one at the same price point and have just come out with a newer version. It would be interesting to see if it has the same results. I have a BenQ monitor and looking to buy a calibration tool. Great information as usual and thanks for your testing.