It cost $20 for a sandwich and a drink down there. BUT El Faro that she walked by is good and fairly affordable, and ill walk over there. But food is expensive af over there
Bring your own lunch and take the bus or walk. I know people who have walked home every work day from downtown to the outer Richmond for years. Y'all sound so entitled and privileged, probably have emotional support dogs that you let leave their waste all over the sidewalks. No wonder SF is failing so badly.
I work remotely and prior to covid I went in 5 days a week but I have never been able to afford to eat lunch out in Palo Alto. Maybe that works for high tech salaries but not for non profit workers.
Get a real job then. The nonprofit industry in CA has become a leach on the state's economy and a complex that does little to nothing to solve any issues. Look at the nonprofits that are supposed to be working on the homelessness crisis. Thousands upon thousands of people employed, with those at the top making over 6 figure incomes. This creates a situation where the is no incentive to address homelessness as solving the issue would result in said thousands of workers losing their jobs and those at the top losing their ill-gotten incomes. This is why people are starting to call it the homelessness industrial complex; there is more money to be had if homelessness is perpetuates rather than solved. Maybe not all non-profits are like this, but in any case, to live in one of the more expensive and economically competitive regions in the country and work for a non-profit, you shouldn't be surprised to not be able to buy the same sandwiches those who work for competitive industries do.
@@C-LOS4250 actually, *drug addiction issue* would be more appropriate. A lot of the people you see downtown using drugs already have subsidized or completely funded housing but choose to be out on the street where they can get high and have easy access to dealers, criminal opportunities and no rules.
Rent is still ridiculous. Rent prices then get passed down to customers where you can expect to pay 20%-40% above what you would typically pay at restaurants.
He’s probably only paying his workers a comparable wage to other restaurants. So how is more customers gonna pay his employees (aside from having incoming money)? So it just means more profit for his own self and business. Does he expect customers to tip more for his employees so the employees will “earn more?”
Sales force can not support all business in downtown. Vacancy rate is still At 37%. These retail business owners now charge $20 a lunch without drinks will never be happy because they want more employees come back. It is not going to happen. Join the GAP , Old Navy, Adidas, A&F to fold up your business and move out of California
The idea that AI companies will revitalize it is lofty. How many AI companies does the world really need? The whole point is how fast it can learn and develop. The market will shrink down to just the few that are most versatile. They aren't like websites. AI can be much more generalist
Whoever trained the Ai driver for waymo did a typical California job of it, saw one go through a red light yesterday. Does the world really need such incompetence?
salesforce is against the employee's wills to back to office. No one wants to go to downtown. It is dangerous and dirty. worker bring their own lunch and just commute between office and bart station. They know it is dangerous outside with drug dealer, homeless, and crazy people who yelled at you.
SF needs a Mayor to not just clean up downtown, but have a vision to make SF the futuristic city its suppose to become. Even though it took a massive hit from the pandemic, alot of the key pieces are still there particularly with AI, robotaxis, etc. I dont think Mayor Breed has that vision because of her liberal views trying to help junkies. The LAST THING you want is to end up making those vacant buildings into low income housing units. That will be the end of downtown SF.
totally agree. They should be focused on tourism and revitalizing downtown with Entertainment, making it a destination hub for dining, nightlife, events, etc. If they really wanted to, they could clean it up just like they did for apec. They should put in gaming boats on the waterfront where people can gamble. Make it legal and put in Casinos. That would drive up tourism, profits, tax income, jobs, etc.
Honestly, even having the privilege to work full time remote (I live in SF), I wouldn’t mind going to an office once or twice a week. 3+ is too much. The reason I wouldn’t mind is because I feel like when they organize the WeWork day, once a month, bringing together, voluntarily, SF and surroundings employees, it’s a very interesting experience. The reasons I think it’s cool to be in person sometimes are: possibility to talk more and hear perspectives from people in different teams, facilitated networking with people in different teams, etc. We’ve been doing that since January and it’s been super productive. Listening to other teams, what they talk about, learning their perspectives, etc, which are things that only in-person work allows, is great. Somehow I agree that remote work puts us to work in our own bubble. Somehow that’s even bad for the people. Networking with internal stakeholders can lead them to their next promotion, for example.
WFH jobs are becoming more & more in demand now... since more companies are cutting off the benefits of WFH... asking employees to come back to office... those who stay near the office won't feel much, but those who live far would feel the pinch due to having to get up early, stuck in traffic or squeezed into train/bus, no more freedom to do house chores in between work, unable to take care of their loved ones/pets at home while working, cooking at home/eating at home to save cost, having to spend more on fuel/electricity for ev/tolls to travel back & forth, long travelling time, wasted time on the road, can't just lie down on your own bed if you want a quick nap... so much freedom taken away. hope another pandemic comes and force everyone to WFH again 😂
Reset is the key. Previous owners profited from raising rent and sale price. New owners bought them counting on making money from rising rent and appreciation are now in trouble. Rent so high making it impossible for businesses to make profit. What goes up has to come down eventually.
worked in sf for 5 yearsish in downtown and I only ate out a handful of times lol. That was 2015-2020 and food was already $10+ when minimum wage was like $12 back then lol.
I just went to downtown SF last week. It was 11am and business is practically non existent, the place is still depressing. Its Fleet Week this week, the media is showing shots of more people in the city as if everything is back to normal. Ya think?
Why the workers have to sacrifice their lives and waste most of it on commuting just to help vacant office land owners and businesses????? Not our problem. Why should I waste my life to support untethered capitalism.
My neighbor was forced to go back to the office 5 days a week. That sucks because I lost my golf buddy during the weekdays. Hope they don’t make me go back to the office.
If they default, the building should belong to the city, no private interests are going to provide things like affordable housing/public education at a lose
This is going to happen all over the nation. The largest wealth transfer in history. And it's being done by design... The younger generation is stepping up... Speak the truth...
If only we had some people in need who could fill both jobs and buildings with housing in the area. Clearly, our building vacancy problem and our homelessness problem don't relate to each other in any way.
they don't. It's not a homeless problem, it's an addiction problem. Without treatment, simply putting someone into housing does nothing. We saw that with the hotels. They destroyed them. Even now many "unhoused" actually have housing but destroy them or still choose to be on the street. They can't hold a job with an addiction. We need treatment facilities. Save the housing for those of us that live paycheck to paycheck, are native to the city and can barely afford rent, but still work hard, pay our taxes and abide the laws.
They really think they can put the money burdened on the employees? This just sounds like insanity! How about fighting for affordable rent! The workers won’t stay long after they start to feel the impacts of commuting.
I wonder what are the lease prices now. Typically in the industry they are calculated at square foot cost/year. Before pandemic, leases were in high 70s-90s. During pandemic they dropped to as low as $35/sft/year. But after the pandemic you can still get a very nice space for mid-$50s and it will be a FULL SERVICE lease, not triple net or industrial gross. I’m curious what are the rates now? Soma/Fidi
They honestly haven't gone down much. I inquired about a space for a gym that I want to open and it's been empty for 4 years now. They wanted 30k a month. I think owners would rather sit on their investments and collect tax breaks rather than rent it out at a potential loss. The penalties for sitting empty are peanuts to them. The city needs to implement higher penalties and laws to make it easier for entrepreneurs to rent commercial spaces and not go through the heinous permit process that takes years.
Don’t SaleForce employees usually get lunches catered? Meaning, their return to office has very little impact on local businesses. Unless they do happy hours after work and expense them. Also, 30% vacancy is better than I expected! I think those rents need a haircut, and more companies would sign or renew lease.
Force more people to come to work. Plenty of SF politicians went around without masks during COVID. I commuted during pandemic to pay bills. Pack your lunch. Since the community extended my car commute, y'all can walk to work.
About vacancies, considering hybrid work, which I am for, you need less real estate than 5 days a week. What about considering to do with some of those buildings what they did at 100 Van Ness? Why not convert to housing???
Commuting isn’t just time consuming, it’s expensive. Lunch and commute is easily $25-30 daily
Exactly
Yup, an employee tax 💸
It cost $20 for a sandwich and a drink down there. BUT El Faro that she walked by is good and fairly affordable, and ill walk over there. But food is expensive af over there
Bring your own lunch and take the bus or walk. I know people who have walked home every work day from downtown to the outer Richmond for years. Y'all sound so entitled and privileged, probably have emotional support dogs that you let leave their waste all over the sidewalks. No wonder SF is failing so badly.
@@SpiritGirlSFNo. Stop telling people what to do and how to live. Live your own life.
This news is paid by commercial industry
You are so good
ALL news is.
A good local economy is good for all locals.
@@SpiritGirlSFuninstall the tv
@ABC7 - Stop uploading videos in only 360p, they're super low quality.
The lack of video quality matches the quality of the content.
I get that 360p is low res and quality by today's standards, but this isn't really a video where it matters.
I work remotely and prior to covid I went in 5 days a week but I have never been able to afford to eat lunch out in Palo Alto. Maybe that works for high tech salaries but not for non profit workers.
Get a real job then. The nonprofit industry in CA has become a leach on the state's economy and a complex that does little to nothing to solve any issues. Look at the nonprofits that are supposed to be working on the homelessness crisis. Thousands upon thousands of people employed, with those at the top making over 6 figure incomes. This creates a situation where the is no incentive to address homelessness as solving the issue would result in said thousands of workers losing their jobs and those at the top losing their ill-gotten incomes. This is why people are starting to call it the homelessness industrial complex; there is more money to be had if homelessness is perpetuates rather than solved. Maybe not all non-profits are like this, but in any case, to live in one of the more expensive and economically competitive regions in the country and work for a non-profit, you shouldn't be surprised to not be able to buy the same sandwiches those who work for competitive industries do.
$25 lunch ???
for tech workers only
Fix the crime and unhoused issue.
Homeless issues?
@@rainbow1021 you’re right lol my b
“Unhoused” more like undisciplined (drugs) and unmotivated (lazy).
Homeless issue get it right
@@C-LOS4250 actually, *drug addiction issue* would be more appropriate. A lot of the people you see downtown using drugs already have subsidized or completely funded housing but choose to be out on the street where they can get high and have easy access to dealers, criminal opportunities and no rules.
Rent is still ridiculous. Rent prices then get passed down to customers where you can expect to pay 20%-40% above what you would typically pay at restaurants.
Downtown San Francisco is not the only part of San Francisco that has vacant storefronts.
Owner of Oasis Grill wants a handout, forcing people into the office. You took a risk by renting commercial space SF downtown.
He’s probably only paying his workers a comparable wage to other restaurants. So how is more customers gonna pay his employees (aside from having incoming money)?
So it just means more profit for his own self and business.
Does he expect customers to tip more for his employees so the employees will “earn more?”
My employer has eliminated return-to-office. The employees are all happier and more productive.
Salesforce is on the hook for the lease /mortgage. SF is still a mess.
Sales force can not support all business in downtown. Vacancy rate is still
At 37%. These retail business owners now charge $20 a lunch without drinks will never be happy because they want more employees come back. It is not going to happen. Join the GAP , Old Navy, Adidas, A&F to fold up your business and move out of California
No employees want to go back to San Francisco, especially downtown. Why would they work in the office when they could work better at home??
Are you sure they work better at home? Based on what metric? 😂
@@LemonHillSocceroookay newsom
The idea that AI companies will revitalize it is lofty. How many AI companies does the world really need? The whole point is how fast it can learn and develop. The market will shrink down to just the few that are most versatile.
They aren't like websites. AI can be much more generalist
no worry man, we have too many rich round this area, a little less is ok for us. we need cheaper housing
Whoever trained the Ai driver for waymo did a typical California job of it, saw one go through a red light yesterday. Does the world really need such incompetence?
🤦🏻♀️🤣
salesforce is against the employee's wills to back to office. No one wants to go to downtown. It is dangerous and dirty. worker bring their own lunch and just commute between office and bart station. They know it is dangerous outside with drug dealer, homeless, and crazy people who yelled at you.
its the way they want it
I never go out for lunch even when I am working in office, I bring my own lunch.
SF needs a Mayor to not just clean up downtown, but have a vision to make SF the futuristic city its suppose to become. Even though it took a massive hit from the pandemic, alot of the key pieces are still there particularly with AI, robotaxis, etc. I dont think Mayor Breed has that vision because of her liberal views trying to help junkies. The LAST THING you want is to end up making those vacant buildings into low income housing units. That will be the end of downtown SF.
totally agree. They should be focused on tourism and revitalizing downtown with Entertainment, making it a destination hub for dining, nightlife, events, etc. If they really wanted to, they could clean it up just like they did for apec. They should put in gaming boats on the waterfront where people can gamble. Make it legal and put in Casinos. That would drive up tourism, profits, tax income, jobs, etc.
@@lyndsay4153 I too like to get high and dream up wondrous pipe dreams
Honestly, even having the privilege to work full time remote (I live in SF), I wouldn’t mind going to an office once or twice a week. 3+ is too much. The reason I wouldn’t mind is because I feel like when they organize the WeWork day, once a month, bringing together, voluntarily, SF and surroundings employees, it’s a very interesting experience.
The reasons I think it’s cool to be in person sometimes are: possibility to talk more and hear perspectives from people in different teams, facilitated networking with people in different teams, etc.
We’ve been doing that since January and it’s been super productive. Listening to other teams, what they talk about, learning their perspectives, etc, which are things that only in-person work allows, is great. Somehow I agree that remote work puts us to work in our own bubble.
Somehow that’s even bad for the people. Networking with internal stakeholders can lead them to their next promotion, for example.
Has the highest unhoused population but refuses to turn it into residential property. WTH?
WFH jobs are becoming more & more in demand now... since more companies are cutting off the benefits of WFH... asking employees to come back to office... those who stay near the office won't feel much, but those who live far would feel the pinch due to having to get up early, stuck in traffic or squeezed into train/bus, no more freedom to do house chores in between work, unable to take care of their loved ones/pets at home while working, cooking at home/eating at home to save cost, having to spend more on fuel/electricity for ev/tolls to travel back & forth, long travelling time, wasted time on the road, can't just lie down on your own bed if you want a quick nap... so much freedom taken away. hope another pandemic comes and force everyone to WFH again 😂
Reset is the key. Previous owners profited from raising rent and sale price. New owners bought them counting on making money from rising rent and appreciation are now in trouble. Rent so high making it impossible for businesses to make profit. What goes up has to come down eventually.
worked in sf for 5 yearsish in downtown and I only ate out a handful of times lol. That was 2015-2020 and food was already $10+ when minimum wage was like $12 back then lol.
I just went to downtown SF last week. It was 11am and business is practically non existent, the place is still depressing. Its Fleet Week this week, the media is showing shots of more people in the city as if everything is back to normal. Ya think?
Commercial real estate is DEAD.
I love how crime is just being brushed under the rug. 🙄
Why is the resolution only 360p?
Ugh. More traffic to people that actually have to work onsite.
@ABC7 News Bay Area, did you guys cut budget on video quality or something? 360p quality for news videos? Really?
I thought with AI, modern society should work wherever they go freely.
It’s confusing on one hand productivity has plateaued with work from home but the employees are happier. It’s tough to reach a compromise in this case
Its wonderful to see the local area getting back to normal....party is over guys time to go back to work.
Why the workers have to sacrifice their lives and waste most of it on commuting just to help vacant office land owners and businesses????? Not our problem. Why should I waste my life to support untethered capitalism.
2:50 - Did the reporter just call this "the East Cut" neighborhood? Wtf?? Are people still trying to make that name happen? Shameful.
I don’t like it either. It’s Just a real estate recreation… however that name does indeed have a long history.
That name sounds hood and doesn’t fit the area.
My neighbor was forced to go back to the office 5 days a week. That sucks because I lost my golf buddy during the weekdays. Hope they don’t make me go back to the office.
If they default, the building should belong to the city, no private interests are going to provide things like affordable housing/public education at a lose
Now it's costing the worker more money so business can make money
❤ S.F.
This is going to happen all over the nation. The largest wealth transfer in history. And it's being done by design... The younger generation is stepping up... Speak the truth...
If only we had some people in need who could fill both jobs and buildings with housing in the area. Clearly, our building vacancy problem and our homelessness problem don't relate to each other in any way.
they don't. It's not a homeless problem, it's an addiction problem. Without treatment, simply putting someone into housing does nothing. We saw that with the hotels. They destroyed them. Even now many "unhoused" actually have housing but destroy them or still choose to be on the street. They can't hold a job with an addiction. We need treatment facilities. Save the housing for those of us that live paycheck to paycheck, are native to the city and can barely afford rent, but still work hard, pay our taxes and abide the laws.
@lyndsay4153 What percentages? If you're such a god damn expert, you'd have numbers. Where are your numbers?
when ur business relys on employees as the main source of income. maybe the issue is why arent residents and tourists not much in that area?
Uber and takeouts add up. I don’t know how some people can eat out FIVE days a WEEK.
Aren't these mega tech companies providing free lunch for their employees?
They really think they can put the money burdened on the employees? This just sounds like insanity! How about fighting for affordable rent! The workers won’t stay long after they start to feel the impacts of commuting.
She says “What gives?” just as she’s walking past a homeless guy. The problem is literally at your feet!
The biggest vacancy rate is in City government!
I wonder what are the lease prices now. Typically in the industry they are calculated at square foot cost/year.
Before pandemic, leases were in high 70s-90s.
During pandemic they dropped to as low as $35/sft/year. But after the pandemic you can still get a very nice space for mid-$50s and it will be a FULL SERVICE lease, not triple net or industrial gross.
I’m curious what are the rates now? Soma/Fidi
They honestly haven't gone down much. I inquired about a space for a gym that I want to open and it's been empty for 4 years now. They wanted 30k a month. I think owners would rather sit on their investments and collect tax breaks rather than rent it out at a potential loss. The penalties for sitting empty are peanuts to them. The city needs to implement higher penalties and laws to make it easier for entrepreneurs to rent commercial spaces and not go through the heinous permit process that takes years.
Convert the spaces to homes
Problem of commercial vacancy = far from over
Return of the people who caused many of the problems in SF in the first place.
Don’t SaleForce employees usually get lunches catered? Meaning, their return to office has very little impact on local businesses. Unless they do happy hours after work and expense them.
Also, 30% vacancy is better than I expected! I think those rents need a haircut, and more companies would sign or renew lease.
Just refuse to buy from these restaurants
Force more people to come to work. Plenty of SF politicians went around without masks during COVID.
I commuted during pandemic to pay bills. Pack your lunch. Since the community extended my car commute, y'all can walk to work.
so ridiculous to mandate office work, the local economy is Not the responsibility of the employees
San Detroito.
Detroit is cleaner than SF at this point in time!
Just keep in mind- if you don’t physically work in the office, your job eventually will move to India….
keep your dollars in the city you live in is the better way
2:30 The bingo caller could have put it more succinctly: “ GONE NOW!”
San Francisco is a Democrat Hellscape 🔥
Actually, it's the super rich REPUBLICAN developers that destroyed SF.
@@punkagrrlzero Lol , nice try
Too expensive !! And too much poo and needles
I feel bad. But I’m glad I’m not a business owner or renter in SF or have a commercial loans. 😅
San Francisco voted for high costs and high crime .
Why would you want to work or visit San Francisco
ridiculous the wfh trend is reversing, it is so good for the environment and workers mental health and wellbeing.
About vacancies, considering hybrid work, which I am for, you need less real estate than 5 days a week. What about considering to do with some of those buildings what they did at 100 Van Ness? Why not convert to housing???
65% during the week. Ghost town on Fridays.
They did it to themselves.
Doesn’t this go against what the WEF wants
Tech can’t save downtown.
Trying to find a job away from SF now 😂 i can’t take it anymore
Crime isn’t helping, over priced rent
We have Marcos Quijada at the Japanese House. That's the problem we have here in the US. An identity crisis 😂😂
AI and robot are creating temp jobs that's why they are vacant building
Still a dump
Hanging our hat on Ai is a huge mistake!! People have short memories. Mabe go visit the computer museum in silicon valley perhaps?
Hispanic operating a Japanese restaurant. Hmmm. I would have to brown bag my lunch at those prices.
We need to leave San Fran asap - Trump won!
More ai replacing employee bad for sf economy.
Such bizarre reporting!
San Francisco is on 🔥… no way to do business there … flee California while you can…
dunno why they are complaining they have so many homeless to cater too
so ... the worst is yet to come 😂
i brought my own lunch and working bare minimum while looking for another job