Yesterday I received a 1916 Conn 4-G valve trombone bought from an eBay listing, and I'm impressed as to how similar it sounds to my Conn 18-H slide trombone (and my other one which I'm not sure if it's a 14-H or an 18-H, as I don't know how to distinguish a "Coprion" bell). I find my valve trombone has a nice crisp sound including that same "snap" when blown more forcefully. I love the agility of it and more precise intonation (although I'll admit I'm purely an amateur who can only get up to the 6th partial (F) on either type of trombone). I have a dozen other valved instruments ranging from cornets to a Conn 20J contrabass tuba, so I'm used to using valves.
Bought a Lake City Flugabone that thing is opening up pretty nice and smooth, getting it to have a shinny sound just like a regular trombone, thank you Keith for all the help
Good video Keith. I'll echo the question about valve trombone versus flugabone. Some of the chat groups I've looked at (which have the valve trombone derision you allude to) say that if you want the niche instrument the flugabone is the better instrument. Flugabones are a lot harder to come by though, so I can see how the valve trombone stays around. I stumbled across a King flugabone in a pawn shop a couple years ago, and then borrowed a valve trombone from my daughter's band director (Holton or Jupiter, I think). The flugabone is definitely the better instrument.
You have a great sound on that horn, Man. Very cool. I had a couple local take lessons to play in Banda bands and I thought they were not very good horns, but since, I have learned there are much better horns out there.
I used to play a Yamaha 354V valve trombone in highschool and my 2 years of university. Its a bit surprising that valve trombones do not have a trigger for the 3rd valve slide at the very least.
Honestly because of the tubbing i find it to have resistance on the low/regular register(any thing on the staff) high range is fair ig. I prefer my beginner Bach side trombone tbh but that just me
I have a Conn valve trombone. Hardest thing is just holding it comfortably. The balance is wonky. Sounds like you feel as though the Yamaha is good in that regard. 👍🏼
OK, unfair question. You have a big gig, and there's a solo that screams to be played on a valve horn. Would you grab this horn or your King 1130? ("Jeopardy" music playing).
btw, remember the push to get to `1000 subscribers where you actually gave a horn away as incentive? Those were the days, before you broke free... ps, sounds great.
Actually, the King 3b valve trombone has a .481 bore (not .508, that the traditional slide models have ) with an 8" 3b bell. And most current valve trombones are smaller than .500 bore., ex. Jupiter, Blessing & even Bach! Just sayin'.
I have a King 2b 2102 model with a valve section, not sure if was offered this as a package or someone assembled it from parts. It’s definitely my favorite compared to the discontinued Conn, Olds, and Getzen models.
We do not have one in stock at the moment, but we can certainly chat about ordering options; feel free to email us at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com and we can chat about more details :-)
The one features in the video is actually lightly used and on consignment in the shop for $1500.00; if you are interested in more information feel free to reach out at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com!
We would be happy to help with purchase options; feel free to reply to this comment or email the shop at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com And we will be happy to help however, we can!
Yesterday I received a 1916 Conn 4-G valve trombone bought from an eBay listing, and I'm impressed as to how similar it sounds to my Conn 18-H slide trombone (and my other one which I'm not sure if it's a 14-H or an 18-H, as I don't know how to distinguish a "Coprion" bell). I find my valve trombone has a nice crisp sound including that same "snap" when blown more forcefully. I love the agility of it and more precise intonation (although I'll admit I'm purely an amateur who can only get up to the 6th partial (F) on either type of trombone). I have a dozen other valved instruments ranging from cornets to a Conn 20J contrabass tuba, so I'm used to using valves.
Bought a Lake City Flugabone that thing is opening up pretty nice and smooth, getting it to have a shinny sound just like a regular trombone, thank you Keith for all the help
Glad to hear you are enjoying it!
Good video Keith. I'll echo the question about valve trombone versus flugabone. Some of the chat groups I've looked at (which have the valve trombone derision you allude to) say that if you want the niche instrument the flugabone is the better instrument. Flugabones are a lot harder to come by though, so I can see how the valve trombone stays around. I stumbled across a King flugabone in a pawn shop a couple years ago, and then borrowed a valve trombone from my daughter's band director (Holton or Jupiter, I think). The flugabone is definitely the better instrument.
You have a great sound on that horn, Man. Very cool. I had a couple local take lessons to play in Banda bands and I thought they were not very good horns, but since, I have learned there are much better horns out there.
Looks and sounds like a decent horn! I play on a Yamaha YSL 630
Thanks for watching!
I used to play a Yamaha 354V valve trombone in highschool and my 2 years of university. Its a bit surprising that valve trombones do not have a trigger for the 3rd valve slide at the very least.
They should add triggers for the 1st and 3rd valve slides so that it plays more in tune.
It does have that Juan Tizol Vibe
Agreed!
Honestly because of the tubbing i find it to have resistance on the low/regular register(any thing on the staff) high range is fair ig. I prefer my beginner Bach side trombone tbh but that just me
I have a Conn valve trombone. Hardest thing is just holding it comfortably. The balance is wonky. Sounds like you feel as though the Yamaha is good in that regard. 👍🏼
OK, unfair question. You have a big gig, and there's a solo that screams to be played on a valve horn. Would you grab this horn or your King 1130? ("Jeopardy" music playing).
btw, remember the push to get to `1000 subscribers where you actually gave a horn away as incentive? Those were the days, before you broke free... ps, sounds great.
If you disregard cost, would you recommend this Yamaha or the current King valve trombone? Thanks…
Hey Keith. Can you please review the Shagerl superbone.
If I am able to put hands on one there will absolutely be a video! Thanks for watching!
Actually, the King 3b valve trombone has a .481 bore (not .508, that the traditional slide models have ) with an 8" 3b bell.
And most current valve trombones are smaller than .500 bore., ex. Jupiter, Blessing & even Bach! Just sayin'.
I have a King 2b 2102 model with a valve section, not sure if was offered this as a package or someone assembled it from parts. It’s definitely my favorite compared to the discontinued Conn, Olds, and Getzen models.
How would i get one of these?
We do not have one in stock at the moment, but we can certainly chat about ordering options; feel free to email us at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com and we can chat about more details :-)
Are all 354-V’s made in Japan?
To the best of our knowledge they are produced in China…
how much?
The one features in the video is actually lightly used and on consignment in the shop for $1500.00; if you are interested in more information feel free to reach out at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com!
How to purchase that valve trombone?
We would be happy to help with purchase options; feel free to reply to this comment or email the shop at tromboneshop@schmittmusic.com And we will be happy to help however, we can!
Is this kind of valve trombone is Bb?
Kieth. You got skinny! :)
Trying to be the best me I can :)
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