I couldn't work from home. My job consists of interacting with people during the day. I think it would not be good for me mentally. I need that interaction I think we all do.
YES! So many truths here! I am one of a very few who now get to go back to the office and I realize now how much I miss AND how much I enjoyed about working from home. Biggest one is not having to buy gas to drive to work. Now that I do... I sorely miss the once a month fill up on gas and the $50 price tag. It is nice to have a cafeteria for food! I don't see very many people yet so that may change but... we are moving into a surge of more cases of the pandemic so this may be short lived. Boo.
All excellent points. Super long comment inbound. As a remote worker for the last 2+ years, I definitely don't miss having to drive in every single day, nor do I miss being stuck in the office on a light workload day when I could be using that time to take care of little things around the house in between calls. And, I get to have my cats climbing on me all day, which we all enjoy. That being said, I would be open to having an office to go to when it suits me. I don't need my own cube, but a desk reservation system would be awesome. If I feel like it's best I go in every day this week because of XYZ, I'll do that, but if I don't need to go in at all next week, I don't have to. Lots of stressful meetings? Perfect to go to the office and leave all that behind when I walk out the doors. Want to catch lunch with some coworkers or discuss important stuff? Head into the office, we might make some breakthroughs we wouldn't otherwise. Lots of internal projects that I need total focus on? Best to do that from home (for me at least). You also bring up an excellent point about the future of advancement, opportunity, and culture. I can see a difficult dynamic in play when those who aren't able to get their name recognized because leadership doesn't see them on a daily basis do end up falling behind, especially if there's only one or two remote employees in a department that's very centralized. It also leads to fewer abilities to have truly good conversations with people that make them more open to you and think of you when they're looking for someone to move into a role. I believe my org has done a pretty good job of getting people to be recognized, but it's a hard thing to do. Culture-wise, there's so many facets to that which differ not just from company to company, but office to office. Getting in touch with coworkers and company really can play a huge role in retention and overall company success: I don't really think there's much crossover between, say, Bank of America and Google, so people might miss the culture shift if they enter into a new role and end up not being a great fit down the line. Ideally you'd interview for that, but you never know.
I agree with you that I think the future of the "best kind of work" is a hybrid "work from home when we need to" but still "come in to the office on some fairly regular occasion" not just to sit at your desk for 40 hours "because"
Hey Chris......I am soooo excited to get a Video from this channel. BTW.......soooo true with everything you said. BTW.......I am a major introvert and love working full time from home but I do text my co workers / staff from time to time to have a little 'social interaction". Is your wife also still working from home? If so, I hope you both don't distract each other and your daughter either goes to day care or is quiet most of the day. lol :-) Thanks for all you do in you non judgmental personality. :-)
Until April 2020, I never had the option to work from home. Now have doubt I will ever take another job we remote working is not an option even with its draw backs
Great analysis. You not only point the cons but show best alternatives against them. In my opinion, there are basically three companies types: A) Those which already know how lead employees to work from home; B) Those who learn it quickly and C) Those who even try, because they think it would be only during a very short time. Employees from this last one are in pain...
I was working from home while recovering from knee surgery. On paper it sounded great. In practice it was agonizing and so isolating. After a few days I said screw it and just burned PTO.
The extra hours is so true I say to myself every day I’ll finish this one thing then 2 hours later I wonder why I’m hungry- it’s because it’s dinner time!
and if someone is in pain, like they fall over or struggling, I will not help them as Im not them. You lack human empathy. Very solipistic mindset if you think like that. If everyones happy, everyone ends up winning.
And where is the pros?!? A positive agenda? I'm using the "traffic time" to study English and far from junk food stores I'm eating better (healthier). I had plan to make exercise everyday but I must confess it's only 2 or 3 times for week. Bur it's better than before (zero times)....
Water cooler and hallway chat is useless banter. Data, details, output, efficiency measurement, and communicate. Your manager can easily see your efforts and that is their role to ensure you as an employee are engaged.
I'm also subscribed to another channel which has a owner who happens to have a lot in common with Chris. He too is a Californian (or formerly Californian) computer scientist and software engineer and a huge Japano-file, an outright Weeaboo in his case. That is not why I (definitely not a Weeaboo) am subscribed to his channel. It is mostly about social and political commentary. He curates news articles, reads them and makes fun of stuff in his videos. What differentiates him from Chris, as far as I can tell (not knowing much about how Chris feels about this), is that he absolutely despises working in an office and is a huge proponent of working from home. He has a very strong opinion on that and outright rants and raves about how offices ought to be a thing of the past and how people working from home are more productive and make the company more money and so on. Forcing people back into the office after the lockdowns is pretty much a crime against humanity in his eyes, not because of Corona, but because to him office work moved from being a necessary evil to a unnecessary one. There is lots of talk in the videos on that channel and in the comments about how offices ought to and have to go the way of the dinosaur and are a thing of the past. I personally don't think so. Not because I would disagree about the productivity statistics and of course companies could save a lot of money if they wouldn't have to build/buy/maintain office buildings anymore, but I think basic human nature won't allow it. I have a cynical and very naturalistic view of the whole thing. I think the bosses won't allow the office work place to vanish, their egos won't, to be more precise. No, this is not meant as a Communist attack on the Bourgeoisie, or anything like that. I understand the bosses and I know that every human has an ego. People in general tend to get blinded by the believe that everything is about money. In reality, money is just a tool we humans use to satisfy our basic needs like feeding ourselves and our families, but also other instinctive needs and those are mostly about status. Who we are to others and what rank we have in the hierarchy of the people we know is very important to us. Ultimately it is the main driving force of civilization and culture. Basically most of what humans do, they do to impress their peers. Men buy exotic cars and multi million Dollar mansions and Rolex watches and so on, to signal their status to competing men and to women, while women compete with each other with expensive handbags and all that stuff. And those mansions, they preferably should stand on a hill, looking down on other houses, to satisfy another one of those base ape instincts we carry around with us. People want to be "the boss" not just because of the money, but for the status. They want to be surrounded by people who treat them with deference and respect and they want to feel like they have power over others. It is ugly, but that is one of the reasons why people work hard to become the boss. They don't want to be just another account that sends emails back and forth. What is the point of being the boss without the corner office with a view and the secretary telling people to wait till you have time for them? Without such markers of importance and status, money is just an abstract number that doesn't reward you much hormonally and emotionally. Why does the captain of a ship need his own cabin? Why can't he sleep in a bunk bed like the crew? A fight for working from home is ultimately a fight against basic human nature and that is why I think office buildings will stick around, probably till the day when A.I. makes all humans unemployable.
Thanks for that perspective TrangleC -- I can certainly see your perspective -- and I think for many companies it's a valid viewpoint... in that there are many fields and professions that could be remote, but bosses want people to be in the office. Being in the tech sector personally... I do understand also the "innovation" view point that companies like Apple reference... suggesting that much innovation happens because people interact with other people and share ideas, and those ideas come together to be a better idea. And our virtual meeting tech just isn't at that same level yet. And no... I definitely don't "despise" working in an office environment. But I also think I work in a good one... and sure... there are plenty of awful ones out there
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I couldn't work from home. My job consists of interacting with people during the day. I think it would not be good for me mentally. I need that interaction I think we all do.
YES! So many truths here! I am one of a very few who now get to go back to the office and I realize now how much I miss AND how much I enjoyed about working from home. Biggest one is not having to buy gas to drive to work. Now that I do... I sorely miss the once a month fill up on gas and the $50 price tag. It is nice to have a cafeteria for food! I don't see very many people yet so that may change but... we are moving into a surge of more cases of the pandemic so this may be short lived. Boo.
It is so weird that people imply that it becomes somehow more difficult to get dressed because you work from home.
All excellent points. Super long comment inbound. As a remote worker for the last 2+ years, I definitely don't miss having to drive in every single day, nor do I miss being stuck in the office on a light workload day when I could be using that time to take care of little things around the house in between calls. And, I get to have my cats climbing on me all day, which we all enjoy.
That being said, I would be open to having an office to go to when it suits me. I don't need my own cube, but a desk reservation system would be awesome. If I feel like it's best I go in every day this week because of XYZ, I'll do that, but if I don't need to go in at all next week, I don't have to. Lots of stressful meetings? Perfect to go to the office and leave all that behind when I walk out the doors. Want to catch lunch with some coworkers or discuss important stuff? Head into the office, we might make some breakthroughs we wouldn't otherwise. Lots of internal projects that I need total focus on? Best to do that from home (for me at least).
You also bring up an excellent point about the future of advancement, opportunity, and culture. I can see a difficult dynamic in play when those who aren't able to get their name recognized because leadership doesn't see them on a daily basis do end up falling behind, especially if there's only one or two remote employees in a department that's very centralized. It also leads to fewer abilities to have truly good conversations with people that make them more open to you and think of you when they're looking for someone to move into a role. I believe my org has done a pretty good job of getting people to be recognized, but it's a hard thing to do. Culture-wise, there's so many facets to that which differ not just from company to company, but office to office. Getting in touch with coworkers and company really can play a huge role in retention and overall company success: I don't really think there's much crossover between, say, Bank of America and Google, so people might miss the culture shift if they enter into a new role and end up not being a great fit down the line. Ideally you'd interview for that, but you never know.
I agree with you that I think the future of the "best kind of work" is a hybrid "work from home when we need to" but still "come in to the office on some fairly regular occasion" not just to sit at your desk for 40 hours "because"
Hey Chris......I am soooo excited to get a Video from this channel. BTW.......soooo true with everything you said. BTW.......I am a major introvert and love working full time from home but I do text my co workers / staff from time to time to have a little 'social interaction". Is your wife also still working from home? If so, I hope you both don't distract each other and your daughter either goes to day care or is quiet most of the day. lol :-) Thanks for all you do in you non judgmental personality. :-)
Thanks MP! Sorry for the delayed response... yes... we're still working at home :)
@@OfficeSurvivalGuide :-)
Until April 2020, I never had the option to work from home. Now have doubt I will ever take another job we remote working is not an option even with its draw backs
Great analysis. You not only point the cons but show best alternatives against them. In my opinion, there are basically three companies types: A) Those which already know how lead employees to work from home; B) Those who learn it quickly and C) Those who even try, because they think it would be only during a very short time. Employees from this last one are in pain...
As an introvert, i don't care
I was working from home while recovering from knee surgery. On paper it sounded great. In practice it was agonizing and so isolating. After a few days I said screw it and just burned PTO.
Totally Ken!
The extra hours is so true I say to myself every day I’ll finish this one thing then 2 hours later I wonder why I’m hungry- it’s because it’s dinner time!
For sure Claire!
You are there to work not to gossip chat .
and if someone is in pain, like they fall over or struggling, I will not help them as Im not them. You lack human empathy. Very solipistic mindset if you think like that. If everyones happy, everyone ends up winning.
How does any of these make sense?
Thank you Chris! Great points. CAB😊
Thanks CAB!
And where is the pros?!? A positive agenda? I'm using the "traffic time" to study English and far from junk food stores I'm eating better (healthier). I had plan to make exercise everyday but I must confess it's only 2 or 3 times for week. Bur it's better than before (zero times)....
There are definitely some pros... but that's probably the topic of another video :)
@@OfficeSurvivalGuide This is the answer I wanna listen!
Bro that’s literally what in office is like
Water cooler and hallway chat is useless banter. Data, details, output, efficiency measurement, and communicate. Your manager can easily see your efforts and that is their role to ensure you as an employee are engaged.
I'm also subscribed to another channel which has a owner who happens to have a lot in common with Chris. He too is a Californian (or formerly Californian) computer scientist and software engineer and a huge Japano-file, an outright Weeaboo in his case.
That is not why I (definitely not a Weeaboo) am subscribed to his channel. It is mostly about social and political commentary. He curates news articles, reads them and makes fun of stuff in his videos.
What differentiates him from Chris, as far as I can tell (not knowing much about how Chris feels about this), is that he absolutely despises working in an office and is a huge proponent of working from home. He has a very strong opinion on that and outright rants and raves about how offices ought to be a thing of the past and how people working from home are more productive and make the company more money and so on.
Forcing people back into the office after the lockdowns is pretty much a crime against humanity in his eyes, not because of Corona, but because to him office work moved from being a necessary evil to a unnecessary one.
There is lots of talk in the videos on that channel and in the comments about how offices ought to and have to go the way of the dinosaur and are a thing of the past.
I personally don't think so.
Not because I would disagree about the productivity statistics and of course companies could save a lot of money if they wouldn't have to build/buy/maintain office buildings anymore, but I think basic human nature won't allow it.
I have a cynical and very naturalistic view of the whole thing.
I think the bosses won't allow the office work place to vanish, their egos won't, to be more precise.
No, this is not meant as a Communist attack on the Bourgeoisie, or anything like that. I understand the bosses and I know that every human has an ego.
People in general tend to get blinded by the believe that everything is about money. In reality, money is just a tool we humans use to satisfy our basic needs like feeding ourselves and our families, but also other instinctive needs and those are mostly about status.
Who we are to others and what rank we have in the hierarchy of the people we know is very important to us. Ultimately it is the main driving force of civilization and culture.
Basically most of what humans do, they do to impress their peers.
Men buy exotic cars and multi million Dollar mansions and Rolex watches and so on, to signal their status to competing men and to women, while women compete with each other with expensive handbags and all that stuff.
And those mansions, they preferably should stand on a hill, looking down on other houses, to satisfy another one of those base ape instincts we carry around with us.
People want to be "the boss" not just because of the money, but for the status. They want to be surrounded by people who treat them with deference and respect and they want to feel like they have power over others.
It is ugly, but that is one of the reasons why people work hard to become the boss.
They don't want to be just another account that sends emails back and forth.
What is the point of being the boss without the corner office with a view and the secretary telling people to wait till you have time for them?
Without such markers of importance and status, money is just an abstract number that doesn't reward you much hormonally and emotionally.
Why does the captain of a ship need his own cabin? Why can't he sleep in a bunk bed like the crew?
A fight for working from home is ultimately a fight against basic human nature and that is why I think office buildings will stick around, probably till the day when A.I. makes all humans unemployable.
Thanks for that perspective TrangleC -- I can certainly see your perspective -- and I think for many companies it's a valid viewpoint... in that there are many fields and professions that could be remote, but bosses want people to be in the office. Being in the tech sector personally... I do understand also the "innovation" view point that companies like Apple reference... suggesting that much innovation happens because people interact with other people and share ideas, and those ideas come together to be a better idea. And our virtual meeting tech just isn't at that same level yet. And no... I definitely don't "despise" working in an office environment. But I also think I work in a good one... and sure... there are plenty of awful ones out there
Speaking about getting knowed by Boss or promotion... 😂😂😂 They worked for dedication or for got compliments or getting paid??? 😂😂😂
Still not convinced, working from home is the best!
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Points 7-11 are the worst
Not 100% true sometimes... They enjoyed about some of cons 😂😂😂...