I have 5 M12 Surges as a professional contractor/electrician it’s by FARRRRRRRR the BEST impact drill I’ve ever come across, if you’re thinking about getting one, stop thinking… GET ITTT!!! You won’t regret it!!! 🔥
I got the m12 installation tool with 2 2.0 ah batteries for 179.00 at the Depot back in November as a birthday present to myself. That’s how you get what you want on your birthday purchase what you want. 😆
I just installed 35 cabinets with the installer . it is probably the best tool I have bought in the last 10 years. the offset had is fabulous for getting into the corners of drawers and cabinets , when doing face frames swapping between drill and driver and right angle is a breeze. this tool is only half price of the festool model and I think it's just as good ,it's a much better value. I thought it was Goofy until I had 35 cabinets to install but this tool and a couple sets of Bessie face frame clamps made the job efficient and fun. If you install cabinets, this tool will make your job easier and more enjoyable 👍👀
In our experience, the decibels jump up for a brief moment while sinking the fastener flush with hydraulic impacts. Maybe this is the reason he didn’t drive the fastener home, but we won’t know until we test it personally with a decibel meter! I agree testing should have been equal!
All of Milwaukee’s demonstrations utilizing other tool brands are hinky. When they showed when Packout first came out they didn’t compare a comparably priced product the DS 150 they used the DS 130 that’s half the price of their pack out to test durability, Just like this year when they were showing off their “milk crate” they show the failure point of the DeWalt unit and then did a like comparison to Packout when you know that the unit is going to be 1/3 more to double the price so it should be able to handle 1/3 more weight or double the weight for double the price... Watch the tests that Milwaukee runs and it’s strange to find one that you can’t call shenanigans on.😉
@88Shortfuse They’re made out of structural foam to reduce weight. In over two years of use the only thing that I have a broken is the handle on a DS 150 from trying to pick up my boxes by the handle when interlocked, it’s still on it doesn’t lock in the out position.
lol I noticed that too. Granted the other one hit like 92 but theirs still hit like 86-87 so it's still over and would technically require hearing protection.
Dude I call you" SHOW TIME! I have a short attention span for watching so many info videos . Then I come across some of your new content and it's show time! Awesome attention to real world interaction, like when you hit the streets. I'm waiting to see you on tv soon. 👍👍👍
Haha sort of surprised about the decibel oops 🧐 but... SERIOUSLY 🏎💨💨💨 I absolutely ❤❤❤ the entire Milwaukee M18 Fuel platform!!! Best cordless tools on the planet 🌎 I have just yet begun to start investing in the M12 Fuel though so EXCITED to collect and use them all...This new adaptable driver is going to be SWEET 😁 Thank you Milwaukee for all the time money and effort you put into all of your tools advertising in people that represent you 🙏 I think VCG does great reviews and content all the way around as well 👌 Lol I only read a few of the comments but critics will be critics the tools speak for themselves I can attest for that for a fact 💯 I have worked in some EXTREMLY hardcore environments & put these tools to the test for many years 💪 I have plenty of proof been documenting these incredible tools with my work for a long time going to put a portfolio together soon unbelievable how many different applications in industries these tools are superior in 🤤
M12 line is great! I use them excuse work as a commercial hvac tech. Only thing the m12 line is missing is a radio that charges batteries! Any word on if and when Milwaukee will put one out there?
The intro should be "Welcome to Milwaukee central!" lol. Love the vids, getting ready here in bout six months to go into HVAC at this school 113 miles from me and this channel is helping a lot with what I need once I finish my trade school classes once I go.
Perhaps but mainly its more for comfort and convenience....sort of like for the same type of people that looked at the paint i was using to paint a office yesterday wanting to know if there were any hazards to smelling the paint all day when its water based paint...in other words pussies
Question - is the chuck for the hydrolic impact enclosed like the m18 impact? or still open like the regular m12 impact? it collects a lot of dust dirt and silica. It has become a hassle for me to clean weekly or bi weekly... I love it.. but the maintance is getting to me..
I like how he shows use case of each attachment got installation drill and adds “for the first time” while similar functionality tool, from Bosch and Festool have been available for years :)
First saw Panasonic zero clearance drill something like 15 years ago. Milwaukee doing catch up on the multi head drills. Haven't had an occasion requiring those attachinements, getting by using close quarter drill, flex dit drive or micro ratchet driver. I do have the Milwaukee 3/8" ratchet drive, mostly working on my cars.
Great video Vince. Looks like the Milwaukee Design Engineers are really listening to the tradesmen by building the Installation Drill/Driver, looks like the universal power tool for 80% of my needs. Fifty 7/8" holes with an auger bit with a 12 volt tool, ... "Red & Black, Jack" 👍
Not much of a use for me...but I love their tools and curious about the m12 1/2in. Impact. They are thinking fast and accurate. Waiting for the Microwave to hit the shelves.
Greg Banach "Looks like the Milwaukee Design Engineers are really listening to the tradesmen by copying the Festool CXS" and other tools like Bosch 3" angle grinder. Good for us. :)
I would definitely buy this tool.... makita has a coffee maker I’m waiting for Milwaukee to come out with their version lol. I’m a Milwaukee man but that portable coffee make is very appealing to me.
or that the NPS was just happening and they were invited to cover it. It could also be that milwaukee currently has newer tools, so more power. The dewalt drill and impact are a bit older and they featured many other brands.
James Moore TTI owns Milwaukee rigid ryobi ...someone else too...and I think maybe makes harbor freight items sometimes. So really I just want to see TTI vs makita vs Bosch vs metabo vs ingersol vs porter. But I tire of the amount of Milwaukee vs Milwaukee or Milwaukee vs it’s sister brand stuff on RUclips so I get it. Milwaukee is by far the most marketed, but that’s TTI in general
It kinda looks like a gas pump handle. lol Still really cool, I have been a Dewalt fan for a bit now but I am slowly starting to like some Milwaukee stuff now.
@@Finnik66 12v in US, 10,8v in other countries. Check Makita or Bosch battery markings, for example. It's not exact copy of Festool CXS, but it's a copy. Like Packout built with t-locs in mind. :)
Ridgid JobMax 12v multi-tool is the same damn thing but smaller and doesnt have the stupid handle thing on it... cheaper and lifetime warranty... it's what I carry for cabinet install, love the jig saw for it.... long with the 12v hypers impact and drill lol step it up
Ridgid's website for this tool shows a three-year warranty. They do offer Lifetime Servicing if you register your tool within 90 days. "...RIDGID® Brand Hand Held Power Tools, Stationary Power Tools, and Pneumatic Tools are automatically covered under a 3-year Limited Warranty..."
Hi Guys!!!! That M12 multi-adapter tool is pretty awesome! Hey Vince, did you get a chance to ask the Milwaukee guys any of the questions that we submitted to you?
@@VCGConstruction Thanks Vince! And hey, Vince/Nick, great videos from the Milwaukee show! Camera angles were niceeeee, and focus was solid. The intros/narration were spot on. :-)
Milwaukee already have 2 products almost identical to the installation driver. A 4 in 1 drill driver which is M12BDDXKIT and a 6 in 1 percussion drill which is M12FPDXKIT. Other than 1 attachment and the front addition to the grip I can't say there would be too much between them
I absolutely am interested in purchasing this item. It should be noted that this item is very close to the 10.5V Festool driver that has been out for years. This Milwaukee is almost a copy of Festool, less the Festool price.
First think I thought of what I saw it was the CSX. The big plus for me though, is the fact the milwaukee looks to have narrower profile which is nice. And the offset attachment is pretty cool.
Nobody really understands the benefit of the surge. Being quieter is nice, but it impacts very consistently at every speed. It doesn't bind up like a traditional impact. It's smooth and a lot more precise than a standard impact.
Hi vegasboy7! There are many different reasons to own either one. Power is one reason, anymore some m12 fuels are as powerful as m18, but some m18 fuels are as powerful as corded tools. Standard m12 did me well in HVAC. Another reason is size, m12 is far smaller than m18 and you can fit at least twice as many m12 tools in a bag than m18 plus being able to get into tight spaces and weight to carry around. The third reason is tool offerings, there are some tools that m12 has that m18 doesn't and vice versa, like the m12 has the rotary tool and ratchets, but m18 has gardening tools and more carpentry tools. The fourth reason is battery life, there are different sizes for both, but the bottom line is that an m18 will likely last longer than an m12 doing the same work. If you are a serviceman hopping from job to job the difference is not concerning, but if you're a contractor on the job site all day you may want the m18. The final reason is cost, m12 is far cheaper than m18 and the batteries are a fraction of the price as well. Bottom line is what are your needs? Do you need continuous power? Do you need the compact size? What tool offerings do you need? My suggestion would be to go to the Milwaukee website and look at the offerings and see which side has more of what you would need. I would also suggest going to your local home depot and actually put hands on them, get the feel, look at what's readily available and hopefully their batteries will be charged. You can even go to the Milwaukee store at 215 and Decatur (little further north on Decatur on the right next to some custom powersport place and in front of the NSPCA animal shelter) and talk to the reps and see the offerings. The answer may be both! It doesn't have to be black and white, there may be something you need from both, they sell a charger that accepts both batteries and they are relatively cheap on ebay, just make sure it's brand name! That way, if you do want the other as well all you need is the battery, and sometimes you can get the deal at home depot where you get the free battery. If you have anymore questions just reply! -your eastside neighbor
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I have 5 M12 Surges as a professional contractor/electrician it’s by FARRRRRRRR the BEST impact drill I’ve ever come across, if you’re thinking about getting one, stop thinking… GET ITTT!!! You won’t regret it!!! 🔥
I got the m12 installation tool with 2 2.0 ah batteries for 179.00 at the Depot back in November as a birthday present to myself. That’s how you get what you want on your birthday purchase what you want. 😆
I just installed 35 cabinets with the installer . it is probably the best tool I have bought in the last 10 years.
the offset had is fabulous for getting into the corners of drawers and cabinets , when doing face frames swapping between drill and driver and right angle is a breeze.
this tool is only half price of the festool model and I think it's just as good ,it's a much better value.
I thought it was Goofy until I had 35 cabinets to install but this tool and a couple sets of Bessie face frame clamps made the job efficient and fun.
If you install cabinets, this tool will make your job easier and more enjoyable 👍👀
Didn't finish screwing down the screw and still over 85db... lol
In our experience, the decibels jump up for a brief moment while sinking the fastener flush with hydraulic impacts. Maybe this is the reason he didn’t drive the fastener home, but we won’t know until we test it personally with a decibel meter! I agree testing should have been equal!
Funny business! He didn't finish driving the screw.
All of Milwaukee’s demonstrations utilizing other tool brands are hinky. When they showed when Packout first came out they didn’t compare a comparably priced product the DS 150 they used the DS 130 that’s half the price of their pack out to test durability, Just like this year when they were showing off their “milk crate” they show the failure point of the DeWalt unit and then did a like comparison to Packout when you know that the unit is going to be 1/3 more to double the price so it should be able to handle 1/3 more weight or double the weight for double the price...
Watch the tests that Milwaukee runs and it’s strange to find one that you can’t call shenanigans on.😉
@@thetruth5210 but yet DeWalt boxes still have cheap feeling plastic.
@88Shortfuse
They’re made out of structural foam to reduce weight. In over two years of use the only thing that I have a broken is the handle on a DS 150 from trying to pick up my boxes by the handle when interlocked, it’s still on it doesn’t lock in the out position.
The M12 line have been Milwaukees best offering for years now. Excellent quality, extremely durable.
I started with m18 tools slowly switched to all m12 because how much I loved them !
I love that tool
Nothing like Milwaukee power tools. In my opinion the best. Thank you for bringing us this videos, great quality btw👍
Love how he clears the graph so quickly after their tools breaks the 85 dB threshold.
lol I noticed that too. Granted the other one hit like 92 but theirs still hit like 86-87 so it's still over and would technically require hearing protection.
Also didn’t completely drive the screw home where I’d guess tool is working hardest and making the most noise 😂
l
ima just use my loud ass m18 thank you very much
Thought I was the only one who caught that. 😄😄😄
No words!!! Thanks V.C.G. construction.
Dude I call you" SHOW TIME! I have a short attention span for watching so many info videos . Then I come across some of your new content and it's show time! Awesome attention to real world interaction, like when you hit the streets. I'm waiting to see you on tv soon. 👍👍👍
Haha sort of surprised about the decibel oops 🧐 but...
SERIOUSLY 🏎💨💨💨 I absolutely ❤❤❤ the entire Milwaukee M18 Fuel platform!!! Best cordless tools on the planet 🌎 I have just yet begun to start investing in the M12 Fuel though so EXCITED to collect and use them all...This new adaptable driver is going to be SWEET 😁
Thank you Milwaukee for all the time money and effort you put into all of your tools advertising in people that represent you 🙏 I think VCG does great reviews and content all the way around as well 👌
Lol I only read a few of the comments but critics will be critics the tools speak for themselves I can attest for that for a fact 💯 I have worked in some EXTREMLY hardcore environments & put these tools to the test for many years 💪 I have plenty of proof been documenting these incredible tools with my work for a long time going to put a portfolio together soon unbelievable how many different applications in industries these tools are superior in 🤤
M12 line just keeps getting better. Love it! Thanks Vince and Nick for the awesome coverage.
M12 line is great! I use them excuse work as a commercial hvac tech. Only thing the m12 line is missing is a radio that charges batteries! Any word on if and when Milwaukee will put one out there?
Nice work, no 99% claims this time. Much appreciated
Definitely trying the palm nailer and service tool
The intro should be "Welcome to Milwaukee central!" lol. Love the vids, getting ready here in bout six months to go into HVAC at this school 113 miles from me and this channel is helping a lot with what I need once I finish my trade school classes once I go.
Jacob Reichert hvac requires schooling?
@@dallas5374 not necessarily if have a good on the job trainer that knows everything about hvac
I am a fan of Milwaukee and I always bought their wonderful products ... Thank you for this great video ... Watch from Iraq
You can drill a 7/8 hole between the studs just as easy and compact with a impact driver.
Perhaps but mainly its more for comfort and convenience....sort of like for the same type of people that looked at the paint i was using to paint a office yesterday wanting to know if there were any hazards to smelling the paint all day when its water based paint...in other words pussies
Anyone else think it's suspicious he didn't bury that screw with the Milwaukee during the dB comparison?
That's called creative marketing. Office people don't realize that a working guy will notice all these little tactics.
Also, the dB range was still above 85.
@@TheSoloAsylum good thing i dont buy wilwaukee shit for it loudness
Question - is the chuck for the hydrolic impact enclosed like the m18 impact? or still open like the regular m12 impact? it collects a lot of dust dirt and silica. It has become a hassle for me to clean weekly or bi weekly... I love it.. but the maintance is getting to me..
Installation tool is essentially the 13v Bosch Flexiclick, I have an M12 drill as well and the Bosch’s batteries last waaayyy longer on runtime
@Jacob Thompson
It is a direct copy of the Festool CXS, same unique form factor.
Love my Flexiclick, use it wherever my PS22 can’t do the trick.
Any chance we can order them from America to Australia? The prices are too high here
I like how he shows use case of each attachment got installation drill and adds “for the first time” while similar functionality tool, from Bosch and Festool have been available for years :)
That installation drill is the bomb!
First saw Panasonic zero clearance drill something like 15 years ago. Milwaukee doing catch up on the multi head drills. Haven't had an occasion requiring those attachinements, getting by using close quarter drill, flex dit drive or micro ratchet driver. I do have the Milwaukee 3/8" ratchet drive, mostly working on my cars.
Wow! Milwaukee Rep actually gets to the point. WITHOUT the screaming.
“Twice as loud to the human ear” = VCG video personality
Great video Vince. Looks like the Milwaukee Design Engineers are really listening to the tradesmen by building the Installation Drill/Driver, looks like the universal power tool for 80% of my needs. Fifty 7/8" holes with an auger bit with a 12 volt tool, ... "Red & Black, Jack" 👍
Not much of a use for me...but I love their tools and curious about the m12 1/2in. Impact. They are thinking fast and accurate. Waiting for the Microwave to hit the shelves.
@@ooxoo3980 They need to have an M12 rotating pizza oven for fishing trips the pies don't nuke too well.
Greg Banach "Looks like the Milwaukee Design Engineers are really listening to the tradesmen by copying the Festool CXS" and other tools like Bosch 3" angle grinder.
Good for us. :)
I would definitely buy this tool.... makita has a coffee maker I’m waiting for Milwaukee to come out with their version lol. I’m a Milwaukee man but that portable coffee make is very appealing to me.
Had the M12 set and loved it. Some stole it from me. I intend to run 8-10 self tappers into them when I find the person responsible.
I hate thieves
I recommend M18 tools ;)
This channel is just one big milwaukee ad. I love my Milwaukee tools and I'm looking to get a milwaukee toolbox.
or that the NPS was just happening and they were invited to cover it. It could also be that milwaukee currently has newer tools, so more power. The dewalt drill and impact are a bit older and they featured many other brands.
James Moore TTI owns Milwaukee rigid ryobi ...someone else too...and I think maybe makes harbor freight items sometimes. So really I just want to see TTI vs makita vs Bosch vs metabo vs ingersol vs porter. But I tire of the amount of Milwaukee vs Milwaukee or Milwaukee vs it’s sister brand stuff on RUclips so I get it. Milwaukee is by far the most marketed, but that’s TTI in general
emilio kowalski lol!!!
It kinda looks like a gas pump handle. lol Still really cool, I have been a Dewalt fan for a bit now but I am slowly starting to like some Milwaukee stuff now.
Just got a new hole Hawg and super hole Hawg with m18 12 amp hour batteries. Incredible.
Great video Vince
the system was offered by Festool 10 years ago
arthur wang 😂 absolutly
I have it and it’s shite so I switched to Milwaukee
When are they going to be available?
I believe November
These videos are great thanks for sharing love seeing all the new tools my husband’s wish list will be a long one!
Yes I want to preorder both as soon as possible.
Despite the impact clunch, looks A LOT like a festool 12v screwdriver
Festool CXS has 10.8 v (not 12v) BUT it's not a brushless tool and no line of product under that battery (only 18 v has a decent tools line)
@@Finnik66 12v in US, 10,8v in other countries. Check Makita or Bosch battery markings, for example.
It's not exact copy of Festool CXS, but it's a copy.
Like Packout built with t-locs in mind. :)
That device with 4 heads is awesome it’s on my wish list
Fantastic tools
Great video again
Milwaukee is always puttin out insane products. Just destroys the competition.
I got mine its so badass bro especially for the job
Nice video
This guy is a great salesman
Festool had those attachments ages ago
Yeah but at 3x the price and less performance
using the compressability of oil to dampen the noise is freakin brilliant
Can the installation offset head be place on either side and top?
Bosh already got something similar to the installation driver/drill for a year at least... But cool to see it in red 😉
Looks also a lot like the Festool C18
Great video. Thanx for taking time to process video too.
the finish drill driver is what im most excited for this year. Its perfect for my shop.
that second Drill is an interesting bit of kit
I love it like i love this channel
Is the installation tool going to be available in Australia?
Should also have a drywall attachment for screwing screws.
😂 he didn’t go all the way in to keep the noise down 😅 3:24
awesome tools
Great video... I have the dewalt platform but tempted to buy the m12 installation driver .. looks nice ....
Ridgid JobMax 12v multi-tool is the same damn thing but smaller and doesnt have the stupid handle thing on it... cheaper and lifetime warranty... it's what I carry for cabinet install, love the jig saw for it.... long with the 12v hypers impact and drill lol step it up
Ridgid's website for this tool shows a three-year warranty. They do offer Lifetime Servicing if you register your tool within 90 days. "...RIDGID® Brand Hand Held Power Tools, Stationary Power Tools, and Pneumatic Tools are automatically covered under a 3-year Limited Warranty..."
I want the installation drill driver now!!!!
Why did they make a cordless framing nailer that only shoots up to 2-1/2" nails?
They didn’t
@@VCGConstruction Everything I have read says 2-1/2" for the new framing nailer.
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@@VCGConstruction Well just finally found one vid that they say it shoots up to 3-1/2" Ok.
Idk about you guys but I like the noise lol
Hi Guys!!!! That M12 multi-adapter tool is pretty awesome! Hey Vince, did you get a chance to ask the Milwaukee guys any of the questions that we submitted to you?
Yes, some
@@VCGConstruction Thanks Vince! And hey, Vince/Nick, great videos from the Milwaukee show! Camera angles were niceeeee, and focus was solid. The intros/narration were spot on. :-)
I like his Milwaukee shirt with the underarmour logo
Milwaukee should make something similar to Skils 4V screwdriver with built-in live cirkuit tester, but give it more torque.
That would be sweet for sure dude
Milwaukee already have 2 products almost identical to the installation driver. A 4 in 1 drill driver which is M12BDDXKIT and a 6 in 1 percussion drill which is M12FPDXKIT. Other than 1 attachment and the front addition to the grip I can't say there would be too much between them
Looks like neither is available in North America although both seem to be a bit less compact than this new tool.
Still above 85 DB. Look how quick he deleted the screen. Lol
Tim Colonial Flooring no kidding, didn’t even finish screwing it in
someone didn't test it ahead of time. 🤣
It is 86db on an unreleased product. Go boil an egg.
They openly advertise 76 decibels too. The reprobates.
Milwaukee is paying this dude
thank for the videos
How about creating a cordless winch?
Don't think the M18 batteries have enough capacity for pulling a car out of a ditch.
Why did he not finish the screw with the Surge and why was he so quick to remove the result off the screen.
Yeah, WTF was up with that?!?
The m18 surge is a dog when it comes to screwing in wood. Apparently so is the m12 surge. If all I did was drill sheet metal it would be my drill.
Because it was over 85db
C-P-O OUTLETS has the atomic drill 4 the $99 price with 2 bat,bag and charger and impact with the same @ $99 as well
ATOMIC = Default Junk ...lol....
@@rlshipley96 I just got it drilled and drove screws with it and works fine 4 the 1 I got
Thanks for giving me a Birthday look at some new content. 🙏🏼
Happy Birthday Edgar!
So they finally caught up to the Makita "t mode",
Puedes hacer un video en español por favor sería muy útil me gusta las herramientas Milwaukee
I absolutely am interested in purchasing this item. It should be noted that this item is very close to the 10.5V Festool driver that has been out for years. This Milwaukee is almost a copy of Festool, less the Festool price.
The festool does come with the systainer box which is a plus!
A Toyota may look a lot like a Honda. Doesn’t really mean one is copying the other.
@@shakeNbakestudios maybe, but this is Festool CXS for sure. :)
First think I thought of what I saw it was the CSX. The big plus for me though, is the fact the milwaukee looks to have narrower profile which is nice. And the offset attachment is pretty cool.
TL, DW: M12 Fuel Surge impact driver, and M12 Fuel installation drill/ driver
Nobody really understands the benefit of the surge. Being quieter is nice, but it impacts very consistently at every speed. It doesn't bind up like a traditional impact. It's smooth and a lot more precise than a standard impact.
Great video hope to see you guys at one of these tools shows really soon! Thanks again
love the right angle thing
I want to see Bosch flexiclick vs Milwaukee insulation. They both do the same thing.
or festool csx
Love it !!!
That's good money
Yo, how many milwaukee milk crates was Vince standing on to reach the pull up bar? 😅😅😅 Thanks Vince and Campbell!
maybe 3
The installation driver looks suspiciously like a Festool
Yep
Question. Would there be a way of converting a Milwaukee mobile case to a gunsmith mobile case with 4-5 draws? Semper Fi
Can you imagine the training class these guys though to get them this pumped!
Awesome, powerful tools....for the first 2 years, before they totally shit the bed.
They have a five year warranty
They need to make a Milwaukee m12/m18 dual action sander!!!
The fuel system has brushless motors! They do make an orbital sander but I haven’t seen a DA.
In hoping they make a DA soon! I do body work for a living and got a small shop going up this week!
Take my money i want this now can't wait
Great video as usual, the m12 installation drill has been in the uk for awhile now
Wow I didn’t realize that, thanks RJ & JR !
How do you like it? Is that front brace removable? I can see it being in the way on that one screw i gotta get to!
The Milwaukee version, or the Bosch one? Bosch has a similar one, but it just looks like a regular impact driver that swaps heads...
This guy has hand movements like a band director
New here. Milwaukee is just crushing the competition. Dude, you look like John Favreau and sound like him too.😂
I like it👍🌹
Slim down he handle, but put a big red plastic guard thing that looks like it’s going to get in the way! Less electronics, the smaller the tool!
I got my festool cxs drill 8 years without problems
i wanna see a milwaikee m12 brad nail gun 18 gauge
New to Milwaukee tools. Should I buy M12 Fuel tools or M18 Fuel tools? Why would someone buy one over the other? So confusing.
Hi vegasboy7! There are many different reasons to own either one. Power is one reason, anymore some m12 fuels are as powerful as m18, but some m18 fuels are as powerful as corded tools. Standard m12 did me well in HVAC. Another reason is size, m12 is far smaller than m18 and you can fit at least twice as many m12 tools in a bag than m18 plus being able to get into tight spaces and weight to carry around. The third reason is tool offerings, there are some tools that m12 has that m18 doesn't and vice versa, like the m12 has the rotary tool and ratchets, but m18 has gardening tools and more carpentry tools. The fourth reason is battery life, there are different sizes for both, but the bottom line is that an m18 will likely last longer than an m12 doing the same work. If you are a serviceman hopping from job to job the difference is not concerning, but if you're a contractor on the job site all day you may want the m18. The final reason is cost, m12 is far cheaper than m18 and the batteries are a fraction of the price as well. Bottom line is what are your needs? Do you need continuous power? Do you need the compact size? What tool offerings do you need? My suggestion would be to go to the Milwaukee website and look at the offerings and see which side has more of what you would need. I would also suggest going to your local home depot and actually put hands on them, get the feel, look at what's readily available and hopefully their batteries will be charged. You can even go to the Milwaukee store at 215 and Decatur (little further north on Decatur on the right next to some custom powersport place and in front of the NSPCA animal shelter) and talk to the reps and see the offerings. The answer may be both! It doesn't have to be black and white, there may be something you need from both, they sell a charger that accepts both batteries and they are relatively cheap on ebay, just make sure it's brand name! That way, if you do want the other as well all you need is the battery, and sometimes you can get the deal at home depot where you get the free battery. If you have anymore questions just reply!
-your eastside neighbor
Great looking tool! 👍🏻
Hahaha, like those new tools, but who the heck uses an impact driver for recessed lighting fixtures?
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