I saw the Auris at the Brussels car show and compared it to the New Golf since I was interested in both. the Golf looks much better in the inside BUT is much more expensive because everything is in option on whereas the Auris is already well equipped when you take a middle range version. Moreover, but this only my opinion, the New Golf lacks personnality beause it just looks like a... Golf (which also makes its succes). To conclude ...I ordered the 1.6l petrol Auris...
I drove one today and liked it very much. Yes there is some noise when you accelarate, but not more than with any other car. It only seems noisier because it's so silent otherwise.
Why making up some negatives? It's a great car for people who understand driving a Hybrid, and want a fuel efficient car, for a affordable price that never breaks down. Don't we all want that? There must be a reason that they used the same reliable Prius driveline for so many years in this car.
Excellent car, good performance, low emissions and very reliable. The CVT also works great, constant higher revs for fast acceleration and constant lower revs at constant speed.
The secret to this car and eCVT is simple- this is NOT a race car. Don't attempt to force it to do something it wasn't designed to do and it will offer a stress free and reliable, albeit dull motoring experience. If the main objective is to get from Ato B safely and in reasonable comfort then this car ticks the box. And once you've learned how to treat it and what all the buttons do it might surprise you. (i've had two MK1 versions so was less surprised) My MK2 Auris hybrid turned 5 this year, she's just about to reach 60k miles. Normal driving around London, trips here, there and everywhere and so far, apart of two bulbs (front lights) and a set of wipers not a single issue. Servicing at main dealer is reasonable and the ownership costs are low. With regards to mpg, my current over almost 60k miles is 57.83mpg- calculation based on fuel put in/ distance driven, trip computer shows 60mpg average since new. During colder months this car is bit more thirsty and will only average 420-480 miles from a 40 liter refill. in the summer this goes up and generally is between 520- 580 from 40 liter. I do agree that it perhaps isn't a great quality on the inside, plastics and rattle and squeak a bit every now and the but not to the point where it becomes annoying or unbearable. Also agree that the clock is from 1980's Corolla :) I guess they had a warehouse full of them, had to fit them somewhere :) All in all, so far, happy with it.
2:45 You complain about the engine droning when you mash the accelerator? EVERY car gets noisier under acceleration. In a manual you downshift and an automatic downshifts by itself. Seriously, this is the stupidest complaint I've ever heard about any car, CVT or not. And even funnier is that at the same time in sports cars when engines roar under acceleration these guys are about to have a trouser accident. Seriously, sometimes motoring journalists seem like such whiny hipsters...
Which? "Yes, but other cars don't sound as loud" He didn't say it was louder than other cars. "Quite loud" is a subjective statement and in objective tests, hybrid Aurises come out pretty good: www.auto-decibel-db.com (e.g. 2013 Auris 1.8 Hybrid is about the same as a 2011 Passat 1.4 TSI, which considered a fairly quiet car). "and many sound nicer" That's a subjective statement as well, purely based on the personal preferences of the listener, their perceptions and biases. You could be right, but I just can't check it.
totoritko There is a significant difference between a variable noise and a monotone droning noise though. The later is more likely to be thought by most people as annoying no matter how loud it is.
totoritko I think the point Which? are making is that in a conventional car you can floor the throttle while leaving the gearbox in a `high' gear (4th or 5th) and accelerate without the engine revving noisely compared to the speed of the car (at high road speeds the sound of the engine revving hard is drowned by the road noise; at lower road speeds a revving engine becomes obstrusive). So, just like the old Daf Variomatic belt drive system, if you put your foot down in a Auris Hybrid you have no choice but to hear the engine rev up to e.g. 4000 RPM (around maximum torque) to give best acceleration still with comparitively good fuel economy. I don't know but the control system may allow the engine to attain maximum power RPM e.g. 6000 RPM if you really floor it when wishing to overtake.
Martindyna I own one, and it works just like any automatic. If you push it down a little, it'll rev up only a little and produce little acceleration. If you mash it to the floor, just like any automatic not older than 40 years, it'll go up to max RPM. So really, if they were being fair, they should have said that they don't like automatics, full stop, because when you mash it, you get high RPM. Now of course, any experienced manual driver will tell you, mashing the throttle in a high gear has almost zero effect past a certain very modest point *unless* you downshift as well (and in case you do, engine roar and we're back at the same point as the autos). Applying full pedal in a manual in high gear has exactly the same effect as applying a little pedal above the current speed in the Auris or even any auto for that matter - little acceleration, little engine noise. I honestly think this is just manual-snobbery by most people (not saying by you). I've driven manuals, I've driven autos and now that I own the hybrid with it's e-CVT, I can tell you, from a user's perspective, the autos and the e-CVT are almost identical in use, response and behavior, and if you handle it correctly, the manual will be quite similar as well (albeit you'll need to work harder due to all the shifting, which in the auto & e-CVT is simply automated for you).
Maybe, but it's far more likely to break down. The hybrid drive takes a little getting used to, but once you know how to get the best of it, it's very good. In sport mode the Auris HSD is quite sprightly off the mark and handles well. With normal driving it will return 4 to 5 litre/100km. And the big advantage of HSD over diesel is the lack of a DPF! No blockages that need dealer clearing. VW diesels are very problematic when driven on short journeys. No such issue with HSD.
I've owned a 2014 hybrid since October 2018 and I love it but 72 - 74 mpg? Not on my planet. Since I've owned mine it has averaged 45mpg which is a huge improvement on my gas guzzling Corsa 1.4 Automatic which only managed 34mpg. Also, it must be borne in mind that I do a lot of very short journeys and, of course, even more so since Covid19 became a thing. Long motorway runs usually return upper 50's to the gallon. Yes, the engine does get a little noisy on hard acceleration which is not a problem per se. What I can't get used to though, is that you get no appreciation of the car's speed from the tone of the engine. And my pet gripe - why on earth did Toyota install that separate clock (which has to be adjusted for daylight savings twice a year) when a few extra lines of code for the central display achieve a much better result.
I know those things you've told about CVT but people may easily understand that the car does not accelerate! This transmission is not a lie! It does what it says on the paper! It may not be a tasteful ride but you're judging the whole auris range with that hybrid! you should have test drove and publish here the 1.6L/132 ps version! which can do 100km/h in 11.1 secs.
All reviewers talk same nonsense about cvt gearboxes, but they have no clue how those systems works and also they don't know how to drive them as well. You can get really quick acceleration and pleasant sound from both petrol engine and electric motor if you know when and how to kick it. CVT and hybrid is THE BEST CHOICE FOR CITY DRIVING !!! Also most reliable drivetrain on the market at present and cheapest to maintain, that's why all phv and taxi driver use Prius or Auris. Hope Toyota will make a hybrid version of avensis soon.
Had to stop rapidly the other day. Unbelievable - my Auris can stop on a postage stamp! I don't understand the comments about the engine noise either. It's hardly any loader than my previous vehicles. I think that maybe it being a constant revving engine (rather than up and down the rev range like manual cars) takes a bit of getting used to maybe.
Whilst its true that the engine RPM is more or less fixed at one level under acceleration it does so because its the most efficient way to increase road speed with the least amount of fuel with a CVT transmission. Manual and multi geared automatic gearboxes don't do this because they have to move through the rev range in each gear. Its a pity reviewers don't mention this when talking about CVT and instead focus only on the way the engine sounds. Both the pros and cons should be mentioned when reviewing cars with CVT's.
What you say is perfectly true but the trouble is that the engine noise is so obvious in this car and so unusual compared to most cars that it is essential to comment on it because this could be a factor that puts a lot of people off. If this were a car where the engine noise were inaudible then it probably wouldn't be a problem. As it is, most people are accepting of variable noise that you get from geared cars (auto or manual) but a continuous noise drones and so is perceived as more difficult to live with.
... no magic from the GT86 - just how exactly is a front wheel drive C-segment car meant to compete with the handling and driving experience of a RWD coupe? Comparing the quality of an Auris to a Golf is somewhat strange, they don't cost the same for a start. Hard plastics are, well, hard-wearing! It's the things you can't see where Toyota work their magic. This Auris (as well as the Mk1) is just a damn good car.
I ha a I bought a used 2913 part time 4wd toyota auris last month and i have a challenge! The 4wd indicator doesnt go off and econ mode indicator doesnt show any longer.What is the problem?
I feel that CVT is an improvement over traditional technology. automatics have to hunt for gears & there are times where car hesitates to find which gear to go into. CVT's in my opinion are way quieter & smoother. I'll probably never buy anything that doesn't have one. I have a 2002 Prius which is the first generation, and everyone that rides in it, even on the highway, comments on how quiet it is. Any car, manual or automatic will rev the engine when you hit the gas hard.
>no magic from the GT86 Agreed, that was one of the dumbest things I've heard on a car review. No talk on the ride quality either. Brakes? Visibility? Missed a lot of detail.
The CVT transmission holds the engine at constant revs when accelerating - typically in excess of 4,000rpm - which creates a loud droning noise. Drive an Auris Hybrid up a long motorway incline and you'll see what I mean. Also, our car reliability survey (the largest in the UK) doesn't show a large number of problems with Golf DSG gearboxes. And the time your old-model Auris takes to get to 100km/h is irrelevant - it's a different car.
very disappointing review.. i think toyota created great car. interior design and materials look pretty good. The CVT transmission is much better than the very problematic DSG of vw.
I agree; he should say 'if you push the accelerator almost to the end' but well... he probably likes a mediocre and unreliable vw and can't avoid the subjective comments.
yeah, like the digital clock in the dash is so 20 years ago... not to mention the indicators for the passerger airbag.... I think the interior is so ugly :(
Errr, they're in the same class. And I've never met anyone who would call a Golf a piece of shit over a Toyota. You're on your own there. A golf is so much better built, with better engines, and much much better quality interior.
Toyota the best cars ever! Cheap and more reliable. Much better then so called BMW’s Audi’s and Mercedes once anyone of them breaks down then that’s it mate! Then keep spending on it
This is a great car why so many haters? Toyota is top reliablity Toyota > VW ...
I saw the Auris at the Brussels car show and compared it to the New Golf since I was interested in both. the Golf looks much better in the inside BUT is much more expensive because everything is in option on whereas the Auris is already well equipped when you take a middle range version. Moreover, but this only my opinion, the New Golf lacks personnality beause it just looks like a... Golf (which also makes its succes). To conclude ...I ordered the 1.6l petrol Auris...
I drove one today and liked it very much. Yes there is some noise when you accelarate, but not more than with any other car. It only seems noisier because it's so silent otherwise.
Why making up some negatives? It's a great car for people who understand driving a Hybrid, and want a fuel efficient car, for a affordable price that never breaks down. Don't we all want that?
There must be a reason that they used the same reliable Prius driveline for so many years in this car.
Excellent car, good performance, low emissions and very reliable. The CVT also works great, constant higher revs for fast acceleration and constant lower revs at constant speed.
The secret to this car and eCVT is simple- this is NOT a race car. Don't attempt to force it to do something it wasn't designed to do and it will offer a stress free and reliable, albeit dull motoring experience. If the main objective is to get from Ato B safely and in reasonable comfort then this car ticks the box. And once you've learned how to treat it and what all the buttons do it might surprise you. (i've had two MK1 versions so was less surprised) My MK2 Auris hybrid turned 5 this year, she's just about to reach 60k miles. Normal driving around London, trips here, there and everywhere and so far, apart of two bulbs (front lights) and a set of wipers not a single issue. Servicing at main dealer is reasonable and the ownership costs are low. With regards to mpg, my current over almost 60k miles is 57.83mpg- calculation based on fuel put in/ distance driven, trip computer shows 60mpg average since new. During colder months this car is bit more thirsty and will only average 420-480 miles from a 40 liter refill. in the summer this goes up and generally is between 520- 580 from 40 liter. I do agree that it perhaps isn't a great quality on the inside, plastics and rattle and squeak a bit every now and the but not to the point where it becomes annoying or unbearable. Also agree that the clock is from 1980's Corolla :) I guess they had a warehouse full of them, had to fit them somewhere :)
All in all, so far, happy with it.
2:45 You complain about the engine droning when you mash the accelerator? EVERY car gets noisier under acceleration. In a manual you downshift and an automatic downshifts by itself. Seriously, this is the stupidest complaint I've ever heard about any car, CVT or not. And even funnier is that at the same time in sports cars when engines roar under acceleration these guys are about to have a trouser accident. Seriously, sometimes motoring journalists seem like such whiny hipsters...
Yes, but other cars don't sound as loud from within the cabin and many sound nicer.
Which? "Yes, but other cars don't sound as loud"
He didn't say it was louder than other cars. "Quite loud" is a subjective statement and in objective tests, hybrid Aurises come out pretty good: www.auto-decibel-db.com (e.g. 2013 Auris 1.8 Hybrid is about the same as a 2011 Passat 1.4 TSI, which considered a fairly quiet car).
"and many sound nicer"
That's a subjective statement as well, purely based on the personal preferences of the listener, their perceptions and biases. You could be right, but I just can't check it.
totoritko There is a significant difference between a variable noise and a monotone droning noise though. The later is more likely to be thought by most people as annoying no matter how loud it is.
totoritko I think the point Which? are making is that in a conventional car you can floor the throttle while leaving the gearbox in a `high' gear (4th or 5th) and accelerate without the engine revving noisely compared to the speed of the car (at high road speeds the sound of the engine revving hard is drowned by the road noise; at lower road speeds a revving engine becomes obstrusive). So, just like the old Daf Variomatic belt drive system, if you put your foot down in a Auris Hybrid you have no choice but to hear the engine rev up to e.g. 4000 RPM (around maximum torque) to give best acceleration still with comparitively good fuel economy. I don't know but the control system may allow the engine to attain maximum power RPM e.g. 6000 RPM if you really floor it when wishing to overtake.
Martindyna I own one, and it works just like any automatic. If you push it down a little, it'll rev up only a little and produce little acceleration. If you mash it to the floor, just like any automatic not older than 40 years, it'll go up to max RPM. So really, if they were being fair, they should have said that they don't like automatics, full stop, because when you mash it, you get high RPM. Now of course, any experienced manual driver will tell you, mashing the throttle in a high gear has almost zero effect past a certain very modest point *unless* you downshift as well (and in case you do, engine roar and we're back at the same point as the autos). Applying full pedal in a manual in high gear has exactly the same effect as applying a little pedal above the current speed in the Auris or even any auto for that matter - little acceleration, little engine noise.
I honestly think this is just manual-snobbery by most people (not saying by you). I've driven manuals, I've driven autos and now that I own the hybrid with it's e-CVT, I can tell you, from a user's perspective, the autos and the e-CVT are almost identical in use, response and behavior, and if you handle it correctly, the manual will be quite similar as well (albeit you'll need to work harder due to all the shifting, which in the auto & e-CVT is simply automated for you).
Maybe, but it's far more likely to break down. The hybrid drive takes a little getting used to, but once you know how to get the best of it, it's very good. In sport mode the Auris HSD is quite sprightly off the mark and handles well. With normal driving it will return 4 to 5 litre/100km. And the big advantage of HSD over diesel is the lack of a DPF! No blockages that need dealer clearing. VW diesels are very problematic when driven on short journeys. No such issue with HSD.
I've owned a 2014 hybrid since October 2018 and I love it but 72 - 74 mpg? Not on my planet. Since I've owned mine it has averaged 45mpg which is a huge improvement on my gas guzzling Corsa 1.4 Automatic which only managed 34mpg. Also, it must be borne in mind that I do a lot of very short journeys and, of course, even more so since Covid19 became a thing. Long motorway runs usually return upper 50's to the gallon. Yes, the engine does get a little noisy on hard acceleration which is not a problem per se. What I can't get used to though, is that you get no appreciation of the car's speed from the tone of the engine. And my pet gripe - why on earth did Toyota install that separate clock (which has to be adjusted for daylight savings twice a year) when a few extra lines of code for the central display achieve a much better result.
I know those things you've told about CVT but people may easily understand that the car does not accelerate! This transmission is not a lie! It does what it says on the paper! It may not be a tasteful ride but you're judging the whole auris range with that hybrid! you should have test drove and publish here the 1.6L/132 ps version! which can do 100km/h in 11.1 secs.
All reviewers talk same nonsense about cvt gearboxes, but they have no clue how those systems works and also they don't know how to drive them as well. You can get really quick acceleration and pleasant sound from both petrol engine and electric motor if you know when and how to kick it. CVT and hybrid is THE BEST CHOICE FOR CITY DRIVING !!! Also most reliable drivetrain on the market at present and cheapest to maintain, that's why all phv and taxi driver use Prius or Auris. Hope Toyota will make a hybrid version of avensis soon.
Had to stop rapidly the other day. Unbelievable - my Auris can stop on a postage stamp!
I don't understand the comments about the engine noise either. It's hardly any loader than my previous vehicles. I think that maybe it being a constant revving engine (rather than up and down the rev range like manual cars) takes a bit of getting used to maybe.
Hi Miguel, This was at the launch in Lisbon, Portugal
cheers, David
Whilst its true that the engine RPM is more or less fixed at one level under acceleration it does so because its the most efficient way to increase road speed with the least amount of fuel with a CVT transmission. Manual and multi geared automatic gearboxes don't do this because they have to move through the rev range in each gear. Its a pity reviewers don't mention this when talking about CVT and instead focus only on the way the engine sounds. Both the pros and cons should be mentioned when reviewing cars with CVT's.
What you say is perfectly true but the trouble is that the engine noise is so obvious in this car and so unusual compared to most cars that it is essential to comment on it because this could be a factor that puts a lot of people off. If this were a car where the engine noise were inaudible then it probably wouldn't be a problem. As it is, most people are accepting of variable noise that you get from geared cars (auto or manual) but a continuous noise drones and so is perceived as more difficult to live with.
cbcdesign001 Yaris hybrid
... no magic from the GT86 - just how exactly is a front wheel drive C-segment car meant to compete with the handling and driving experience of a RWD coupe? Comparing the quality of an Auris to a Golf is somewhat strange, they don't cost the same for a start. Hard plastics are, well, hard-wearing! It's the things you can't see where Toyota work their magic. This Auris (as well as the Mk1) is just a damn good car.
I think that the beautiful surroundings, made the car look prettier!
I like it. Built in Britain. I'm having one.
Nice car and i dont mind the hard plastic on the dashboard,and the car is much more reliable than the golf.
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I bought a used 2913 part time 4wd toyota auris last month and i have a challenge! The 4wd indicator doesnt go off and econ mode indicator doesnt show any longer.What is the problem?
I feel that CVT is an improvement over traditional technology. automatics have to hunt for gears & there are times where car hesitates to find which gear to go into. CVT's in my opinion are way quieter & smoother. I'll probably never buy anything that doesn't have one. I have a 2002 Prius which is the first generation, and everyone that rides in it, even on the highway, comments on how quiet it is. Any car, manual or automatic will rev the engine when you hit the gas hard.
>no magic from the GT86
Agreed, that was one of the dumbest things I've heard on a car review.
No talk on the ride quality either. Brakes? Visibility? Missed a lot of detail.
It's RELIABLE GUYS THATS ALL THAT MATTERS.
Get a BMW or Mercedes or any of these german luxury cars and see how long you spend at the garage.
The CVT transmission holds the engine at constant revs when accelerating - typically in excess of 4,000rpm - which creates a loud droning noise. Drive an Auris Hybrid up a long motorway incline and you'll see what I mean.
Also, our car reliability survey (the largest in the UK) doesn't show a large number of problems with Golf DSG gearboxes. And the time your old-model Auris takes to get to 100km/h is irrelevant - it's a different car.
I like the rear wiper
Great tip mate, thank you.
Thanks for answering :) Keep the good work.
Hybrid Hybrid. I don't care about hybrid give me the petrol engine
***** Nope, but 80+mpg compared to 40+ on most small cars might just do.
Belgian car
top auto toyota
nice is it avlable in north amreia
What is the color code?
Me too
toyota is maybe the best quality car manufacturer, but design team should be fired asap
jnb I love the auris design . .the Yaris design is horrible.
Is this in Portugal or Spain?
very disappointing review.. i think toyota created great car. interior design and materials look pretty good. The CVT transmission is much better than the very problematic DSG of vw.
Touring much nicer 😊
i prefere the older one :)
Cascais, I would say.
I agree; he should say 'if you push the accelerator almost to the end' but well... he probably likes a mediocre and unreliable vw and can't avoid the subjective comments.
estan hablando de 60 Mph osea 100km/h
No tarda 11 seg en cojer 60 km/h los pillaria antes con la bici jajaj son 4,5 el coche me recuerda al civic y al giullieta
yeah, like the digital clock in the dash is so 20 years ago... not to mention the indicators for the passerger airbag.... I think the interior is so ugly :(
Lower...? Looks like a MPV.
Who compares a piece of shit Golf to an Auris? Bad review.
Your beautifull ^^
Errr, they're in the same class. And I've never met anyone who would call a Golf a piece of shit over a Toyota. You're on your own there. A golf is so much better built, with better engines, and much much better quality interior.
This car is ugly.Don't like the front facce.The Ceed is much better looking.
ugly/...sorry toyota
Toyota the best cars ever! Cheap and more reliable. Much better then so called BMW’s Audi’s and Mercedes once anyone of them breaks down then that’s it mate! Then keep spending on it