I bypass the DAC in the Eversolo and use it purely as a streamer. In that respect it works very well. I love the app, usability, screen art. It's not perfect but for the money it's very good. Yes I could have saved money with a Wiim, but it's not about getting the cheapest possible for me. I know I could get a lot better too, HiFi Rose RS130 for instance, but weighing everything up, the Eversolo is a great price for what you get
@elthamlad468 - That is what I was thinking - I am thinking of purchasing this and bypassing the DAC, but I would also consider how intuitive the apps are - not sure how wiim pro app is; aesthetics is huge part, I think with the beautiful display it would look great with my setup. I agree, its just not about using the unit for a particular functionality but over-all experience. Have you used with the DAC and what differences have you noticed?
@@TheJoker-qc6jq I have used the internal DAC but it wasn't as good as either of my separate DACs. My new amp, Cambridge Audio Edge A, has a built in DAC but a very high quality one, so the A6 doesn't even come close.
Same here. Using the DMP-A6 with a Geshelli Labs J2S DAC with the Sparkos ss2590 Opamps, going into Klipsch Forte IV's and I love it. I did also add the upgraded power supply, but since you can't easily A/B test without two units, it was difficult to comment on the return on investment. As a standalone streamer and DAC, I am not a fan of the ESS chips, and I agree with the premise of this video. As a streamer going into an external DAC, this is tough to beat. Works great with Roon, and also as a local server to stream files that you own. The latest software/firmware update added more features, and eliminated many bugs, which is great to see.
I also bypass the DAC in my Eversolo DMP-A6, instead I use Chord Hugo TT2 / M-Scaler combo, after which I run through my Michi X3 and Bowers and Wilkins 804 D4s (this is a very bright setup). The Digital output from the A6 is solid, the sound issues that you discuss in this review relate to the analog output stage using the duel ESS9038Q2M 32-Bit DAC set up (similar to the Topping D50s). The digital transport side of this Streamer is as good as Naim or Cambridge audio streamers (I have tried these), and that is where the value sits for this little streamer feature packed flexible interface with NAS level storage and strong digital stage pass through. I will be picking up an Eversolo DMP-A8 after christmas, so looking forward to seeing if the sound stage improvements stated are actually true (for the digital side of the unit). Thanls for the comments.
I think your m-scaler will make hearing differences between streamers quite difficult though. I heard from a lot of reviews the a6 digital out is lean sounding.
The reason I follow you is because you don't always give the highest 5/5 praise to every product out there. I'm so sick and tired of the audiophile circlejerk. Thanks for your honesty, clarity, and fresh perspective.
Exactly. I was pondering over small speakers last year. His review of my top contender, the Dynaudio Evoke 20, left me a little degressed. But then I watched and listened more. These speakers ended up being right up my ally. As an older audiophile, my ears are easliy annoyed by bright, harsh overly detailed speakers. For casual listening these are excellent. Carefull matching and I've ended up with a system that is right for me. Tough love is the best medicine!
Was at Axpona ‘23 & listened to $500-40K DAC’s on many high end racks. Put more money into speakers and amps. Comparing DAC’s is like comparing bottled water. Eversolo, Wiim, and Bluesound are crushing it.
I just bought the Eversolo Master Edition and I have multiple setups I can run it through. When it arrives I will start by using it as a streamer and DAC. I also have the Amari DAC and will run the Eversolo with that through some B&W speakers to see if the highs gain any benefit from a stand alone DAC. Thanks for the review and heads up!
I have both the DMP-A6, and just picked up the A8. The glare is fairly common with Ess chips. I can say that the A8 is amazing definitely a bit more weight and heft to the sound. I mean 10 input sources and 6 different outputs on top of the akm implementation is great. The flexibility of these units is amazing. The versatility is unmatched at the price point. I do wish the A8 would have had a larger screen. The A6 is an all around great value. When I pair the A6 with the Geshelli Labs J2 with the Akm chip, that is the thick dynamic sound that you just don’t get with most ESS chips.
Master edition is smoother and warmer sounding then the standard. It pairs better with brighter speakers. Use the slow roll off filter. If you use the USB input it also sounds warmer but that takes away alot of the streamer value. I guess that's because of the upgraded femto clock.
It’s my expeience as well. A beautifil streamer with soun towards the highs. Thats why I have sold it and bought the A-8. More control with the highs…😊
I think you are spot on with the caution of pairing it with speakers that have bite on the top end. When I audition it on Focal Kanta 2's I did not warm up to its sound. When we switched to the Paradigm Fonder 120H I was glued to the listening chair. Playing one track after another for 2 hours. As with anything synergy is an important consideration but for me that applies to everything not just the Eversolo. Mating it with mellow sounding amplification I am enjoying the hell out of the A6 Master I purchased. I do not have a desire to upgrade.
Thanks for the review, was really interested in Eversolo Streamers, but I'am focal user, so many reviews and finally someone told the most important part - about synergy 🙂There is a lot of good sounding equipment out there now, but software often is a weak part for streamers, I still use my beloved Primare NP5 MKII and I couldn't be happier, it sounds better than it costs and you don't have to worry about software, you can control any music service from the native app, just set and forget 😊
Unfortunately some equipment is just tuned that way. I noticed it does not have DSP also a low noise power supply can fix most DAC problems... A-8 includes all the things needed for long term happiness it's possible to fix the A-6 with their custom rendering engine...
I have the A6 (non-master) paired with B&W’s 683 S2s (REL sub) and it’s wonderful. My ears may not perceive enough of the spectrum of music to make any insightful conclusions about harshness or brightness, but I’m overjoyed with the A6 (+ Tidal’s hi-res tracks).
I pair my A6 ME with my DDC- DAC Denafrips with Willsenton R8i with Kef LS50 meta and Rel T5X , it’s a good combo I’m very happy with. I only play Apple M. Never had any prob with the software.
Couple of things I didn’t notice in the video. Is it bright as a streamer and DAC, or as a streamer only? Also what did you compare it against? In other words is the digital glare you mentioned the DAC implementation? Thanks for doing these videos.
Your highlighting about equipment- speaker matching is very good. What DAC(s) tested. RME-ADI-2 user reported great results together (in his system). Subscribed
Had the Eversolo A6 paired with some Heresy 4's and hated the sound. Moved it downstairs to the Wharfedale Lintons and it sounded so much better. Funny how important the Eversolo pairs with certain speakers. Thanks for your review!
I had a Gustard R-26 that I was using as a Roon endpoint. I really like the sound of it but the interface leaves a lot to be desired. I got a an A6 to use as a streamer and am very pleased with the combination. Never tried the internal DAC. I’ve never had a control issue.
Respect for being honest and not wanting to validate the product for people. Oh, and thanks for saving my money by not buying it, since I have Focal Chora 806.
Thank you for making it easier to understand, as I am currently in the market for lower to mid point streamer Frank and important detail I have a bright speaker and your highlight is very important Thank you
I already have a DAC and amp that I'm happy with, so this streamer would be overkill for me. I use my DAP for desktop streaming. The USB output is connected to a DDC (Douk Audio U2 PRO XMOS XU208 Digital Interface) that is powered by linear power supply (iFi iPower Low Noise DC Power Supply). The optical output of the DDC is connected to my DAC. The quality of USB streaming output from my DAP (Shanling M3X) is better than that from any of my phones. You could skip the DDC, but it does noticably improve tone an timbre of the output when powered by the linear power supply.
Two of the Best reviewers are Jay and iiWi Reviews. Bang for your buck, Eversolo. I do use the DMP-A6 with Focal Aria 936, but here is the difference, I use a Sunvalley SV-S1616D 300B Tube Amp. SS with the DMP-A6 with the speakers you have listed...Treble will be Bright. Tube gear then no issues at all.
I've been happy with my node 130s. Runs solid.. great customer service, they really do listen to the community.. great updates..idk.. itll prob be the last thing id upgrade. U ever get around to trying that LPS kit with the Node? :p
I greatly appreciate the candid review. I have a more revealing system and annoying / poorly resolved treble gets under my skin quickly. I'm hoping you'll do a candid comparison review with the A8. I've read the AKM vs. ESS setup and better clock result in a warmer / smoother sound profile which could make for a much better pairing with my setup (that includes B&W 803Ds). I'm wondering if that may be worth the 2x cost given I have absolutely no interest in using the pre-amp functionality.
I don't really want to review streamers anymore so it's unlikely but my buddy who's a dealer has the same speakers and he loves aurlilac and said even the older used stuff is crazy good. Hope that helps.
First off….., nice beard. As a user of one, I’d say it definitely isn’t a streamer to be used with bright electronics | speakers | cabling loom. Mine is used with either an Exposure 3510 or Heed Audio Obelisk Si MK lll amplification and a pair of Neat Acoustics Ministra speakers ( which themselves are neutral ) and most importantly build upon a synergistic whole which is vital……., personally I love its sound, or sense of musicality, mor3 than more expensive digital gear I’ve owned, like using an Aurender X100L, with both the Denafrips Ares or Pontus ll DACs, apples and oranges I’d say.
thank you for the compliment sir! I'm happy it's working well in your system, I think it will work well in many peoples system as long as their is some care when selecting components.
Interesting take. I noticed in Stereophile and High News and Record Review measurements of Kef ls60 wireless that the speakers have 2 or 3 db taken out of the 8-15 kHz area. You know Kef can make an active speaker sound however they want. I listen to CDs and LPs because that’s what I own so I’m not able to compare with streaming. Synergy (and setup) as you say is huge.
Anther excellent job. I went nutso and got an Auralic G1.1 and it has been wonderful. Maybe someone should consider a used older Auralic G1 if they can justify the expenditure. I am speculating that one of their not current models might sound more neutral and enjoyable. Just a thought. I spent $3200 for the streamer but now the G1.1 is doe to get replaced and they are blowing them out for $2300. You might get a G1 for $1500 used. If you can stand the drag on your wallet, I'd say consider it. Might be your last streamer for a long time.
My previous streamer was a Node 3rd gen with a LPS. It was very good but the Auralic outperformed it. More neutral. the sound quality is so good I cant tell from CD. They supposedly put a lot into getting the best Wifi which I need. Overall very pleased and not motivated to change. The bumme is the screen is small and the menu lettering really small. You are welcome to drop by and judge for yourself. Nothing like first hand experience. heh.@@NemoPropaganda
@@fletchermunson6225 that's awesome to hear, If things slow down that could be cool, right now I'm traveling all around between work and holiday stuff.
BT. I found a recording that I love to play for bass. Called Bass Room by a musician named Princip. A lot of stand up bass etc. Love it.@@NemoPropaganda
Thanks for this piece. Was looking hard at this unit to pair with my KLH Model 3's and Audiolab 6000A... bummed that it might not be a good pairing based on yours, Jays and I think Darko's comments on the upper frequencies. Ready to upgrade from the Belkin Soundform Connect though.
Yeah brother streamers are tough, I personally feel under $1k the fidelity overall is very close with all of them. My friend is a dealer and he feels the next upgrade is in the $3k territory for streamers and most of us (myself included) just won't spend that.
While on the topic of synergy...what about pairing the DMP A6 with tube amps versus solid state? Will the "warmness" of 300B's tame some of the high frequency concerns?
it's possible, in this hobby every little thing can have an impact so I always encourage people to try and have their own experience if finances allow :)
I’m very confused cuz some reviewers only talk abt the streamer, what abt the DAC and preamp ? What if you pair it with active spkrs like Genelec G3 ? How are you using it ? And what about the master edition ? Too many questions unanswered.
I've had the master edition model for a month now. and i use genelec 8340 dsp speakers in it. The sound is really brilliant and honey. Not the slightest reason to complain, listens either digitally coax or analog xlr/rca with either active loud speaker.
The master edition is a different product and I don't use powered speakers personally so I can't really help with that. I review products based on the way I use them, I can't cover all the usage scenarios.
so, if the eversolo es more transparent, detailed and spacious then the cambridge cxn 100, , you would recommend it to make a good match with the dynaudio special forty?
I like the review. I can agree with much of what you say. However, where we can agree to disagree is in speaker pairings. While your opinion is correct to your ears, I’d rather leave it up to the individual and how they perceive the sound before making a blanket statement that the DMP-A6 won’t work well with a particular type of speaker. Everyone hears differently. As to your issues with the App, let me say that in my limited use of the App (and I’ve had my A6 for as long as you have), it’s ok. I’ve had no problems with it. BUT… I use Roon and control the A6 playback with the Roon App and I have NEVER, not once, had any problems. Just something for your readers to keep in mind. Is the Eversolo DMP-A6 the be all/end all of streamers? No. Is it the best for its price? Absolutely. It just works.
I think its not just speakers. Its the dac, amp and room which needs to be considered .Its the whole system baby..sounds great in my system. Im using it as a streamer into my integrated amp/dac (Denon -PMAA110 - warm amp, triangle borea 08 - not as lively as klipsh rp series, in a bright-ish room).
@@NemoPropaganda definitely!!! It's the rabbit hole we all go though.. oooh do like an oled. I have both too, the led i use in the living room (less reflection and the brightness capability makes it more practical - but cannot beat an oled for that cinematic experience when the lights are off/dimily lit.)
We are talking about smoothing out, not fidelity. Anyway, the statement of poor pairing with Focal speakers is not right; in my case this combination sounds amazing. And Focal speakers are not as bright as they used to be. Aria and Kanta are not bright. I have never had better sound in my system
@@fofocho71 yeah, I have owned Aria & Kanta for many years, I reviewed both as well as Chora, it's not just about being brighter, it's about being resolving.
I have the Choras in one room,,they are “aggressive”, I use them for gaming. In the main room I have the Arias 948 and they are a different beast, much more refined, paired with NAD and Marantz and I find them even on the warm side of neutral
Thank you for your review as I'm new to this whole streamer and dac game. What do you think of the ever solo A6 combined with aerial acoustic 10T speakers?
I’ve been interested in this since it came out but I’m not convinced it’ll actually sound better than my Wiim mini/Geshelli Labs J2 AKM setup. Speakers are Lintons. Enjoy the current sound but would like the screen for album art and vu meters. Maybe just adding the douk audio vu meters would be a better middle ground.
in my experience most sub $1k streamers are more similar in terms of overall fidelity so I would not be surprised if your wiim/J2 setup sonically had similar sound quality.
@@NemoPropagandawhich over $1000 streamers would you recommend? I plan to use with an external DAC unless internal one is amazing. I have Pontus ii and Weiss 204 DACs. I have Heco Celan 3 Revolution speakers and love them.
@@ratingsdad I'm not really sure, my buddies a dealer and he feels like the $1k or less streamer market is really good and the next meaningful jump in sound quality is around the $3k category. Personally I havn't made that jump myself so I have not heard any dacs above $1k.
Nemo, I think to be fair you may have wanted to discuss using the DMP A6 as a Streamer vs full on with onboard dac a little more. Frankly I am still a little fuzzy...the streamer section is bright with 50% of all setups or the full on unit itself?
Nemo, I have a much-needed request on a product that I’ve not seen one critical listener cover. I’ve been looking into some of the products that do audio and video on possibly higher level?(Zidoo products). Disappointing really. I mean who wouldn’t want to see the concert that they are listening to through something that upscales video and audio? I don’t know if you can that would be cool I just don’t see a lot of people doing it.
Interesting that I heard you say you sent your demo unit back to Eversolo. You might have seen 13th Note Reviews recently video where he said that Eversolo was telling other reviewers they could just keep the demo unit, which, of course, they could then sell or something.
No I did not see his video, I don't watch other reviewers content unless it's specifically a product I'm personally interested in. Some people did post about it in my discord and this was my response if you're interested in my opinion on the topic: "When the YT channel is the content creators primary source of income it is a fallacy to believe the viewer or even MFG takes any priority over the channel itself. The YT channel at that point is a for profit business and that's okay. We all love tons of for profit businesses like the NFL for example. You either trust them or you don't. That's all it really comes down to."
A6 stages a little deeper and has a little more dimension overall while the MXN10 is more balanced with it's presentation and a little more refined in the treble region.
I want to clarify something for my own edification. You said pairing with Ares did help with the top end a bit but it wasn't the right thin to do. Should I understand it as even with an external DAC, Eversolo is too sharp on the top en (with neutral/bright speakers). I was wondering how this would sound through a Schiit system with a Bifrost 2 DAC to Buchardt S400 MkII. Also, any thoughts on the new Cambridge Audio CXN100? I see some open box options for $699.
Finally, some honesty instead of hype. I have highly resolving speakers - Harbeth SHL5plus - and I simply couldn’t live with the A6 (I used it as a streamer only. Didn’t use the DAC). I’ve sold mine (after 4 months), and so has a good friend of mine. The treble is too bright. The leading edges are very hard, not natural. It not only led to listening fatigue in a short period of time, it would literally make my ears ring. I tried different cables to tone it down, but to no avail. I also have to say that the bass is nice, but very thin. Yes, the A6 is very detailed, but the overall presentation is not well balanced tonally. While all that detail is enthralling at first, with time the weaknesses of the A6 begin to reveal themselves. Obviously, Nemo is hearing what I heard and I appreciate his honesty, but he’s still being overly kind to the A6.
I was looking for a streamer that I could add to the mix and likely with GoldenEar speakers. Would this be a fit or, are there others that are a better match?
I'm not familiar with those speakers but I feel like the only reason you'd buy this is because it looks nice otherwise you can save some cash and get something equally performing but more plain jane looking like the Cambridge MXN10. For the record theres nothing wrong with paying a premium for a certain aesthetic.
Was about to go for this device to use with a STAX headphone setup, but now I watched this, maybe it isn't an ideal choice - what would you recommend for resolving speakers / headphones?
if you're using the dmp as6 analog outputs like RCA then you're using the internal dac, if you're using digital outputs you are not using the internal dac.
I would appreciate your advice based on your expertise and unbiased reviews. I need a subwoofer to combine with NAD 758 v3i receiver and Definitive Technology four Mythos1 towers and one center channel Mythos 8 speakers. Musicality and aesthetics are the objective rather than power. I am undecided between B & W asw608/610 and Monitor Audio Radius 380. Cost is not an issue. Which one would you recommend? By the way, SVS 3000 Micro or Kef KC62 are not under consideration as I do not need that power to be used in my condominium. Thanks
Aesthetics? Why not REL T7x or 1003 mk2? Also SVS & KC62 are not crazy powerful, just because they have a lot of watts it doesn't mean they are crazy loud. The 300watt REL 1003 MK2 can play louder than the 1000w KC62! No matter what sub you get you will blend it with your system so it doesn't matter how loud or powerful it is at full volume as you will most likely listen at reasonable levels :). Finally B&W ASW range is very underpowered, their specs are not honest.
I considered the REL T7x. However, I am concerned that the down firing passive radiator may affect negatively the music detail. I am still leaning towards the B&W ASW608/610 or the Monitor Audio Radius 380 (not much information on it). By the way, the Rel T7x is more expensive than the SVS 3000 micro in Canada but is under consideration now.
@@manuc4246 You said cost is not an issue, REL makes some of the best sounding subwoofers in the world, your worry of the T7x in regards to music detail is severely misguided. Of course aesthetics are personal but if aesthetics are a concern personally I feel REL makes some of the best looking and sounding subwoofers. B&W ASW series is 15 year old vinyl wrapped cabinet that maybe has 100 honest watts. The ASW series isn't bad but its not competative in todays market. If the T7x is too expensive at least get the 1003 MK2, it easily embarasses any of the ASW subs.
Does anyone make a quality budget ( or not ) streamer that is super basic? I only use two music apps on my system and nothing else. I don't use a boat load of features other than lots of connectivity options. Wiim is ok but fell there is better but just as basic.
i have not found a use for a streamer, i play thru my pc and can not imagine fiddling with the item itself on the front or whatever else you can control it with. for large rooms a huge tv and a nice ir remote to navigate menus or something i can see myself use if i get a tv if tv's et sensible again.
I've never used a PC for streaming personally but I understanding is they can have some noise and a dedicated streamer could/should be an upgrade in terms of overall sound quality.
Hi Nemo, great insights on the A6 and system matching. What Streamers below $1k can you suggest for Focal Kanta 1 and Hegel H190 system? Hoping to hear valuable inputs. Thank you.
I feel most streamers under $1k are fairly similar in overall fidelity but I use the node with an Ares2. The Cabridge MXN10 is about $100 less and sounds just as good.
Hi Nemo, is adding Gustard R26 DAC to my chain, Hegel H190 + Eversolo DMP A6 with Focal Kanta 1, will make the sound more holographic and "bigger"? Thank you 😊
sounded good to me. But the price is so high like so many items. I think that some reviewers may have some benefits when they over react to this items.
I’m happy with my wiim pro for $125 out to an external Dac. The screen is cool but I’m happy with my existing steamers. Appreciate your straight forward comments here
@@michaelwright1602 I have a wiim pro, BlueSound node (latest) and Sonore ultra rendu with upgraded LPS all running to externals dacs. They are all fantastic steamers and do things a bit differently.
Thanks for the heads up nemo. The Kanta comment tells me everything i need to know. .. basically, this isnt going to reolace a $5k streamer, nor should it.
@@NemoPropaganda you're a giant killer Nemo! Glad you're on RUclips in the hifi space, lending your unique perspective to this hobby. I'm being serious, we'd be disadvantaged without your voice.
most streamers I've heard under $1k are fairly similar in terms of overall fidelity or sound quality. The Eversolo stages deeper and slightly larger while the node has a little more refinement in the high frequencies.
The Node is lower quality than this so will sound worse overall IMO. I had an Audiolab 6000N and it even kicked the Node’s butt. You’re better off with this or another streamer than the Node. I also used to have Klipsch Heresy iii speakers and they are bright. I would be careful what amp you use with them as too much brightness can be a bad thing. They were brighter than the Heco Celan Revolution 3s that Nemo mentions in this video.
@@NemoPropaganda, I am in the same situation. What would you recomend in the same price range. It could be less if the sound quality is similar. I dont need screens or thousands of features that I might not use at all...
@@NemoPropaganda, thanks for the reply. I have found same response already in another similar thread. My system (arcam amp and ked r3 meta) might be slightly on the warm side so this A6 might be still a possibility. Do you have experience with the cxn100. Is is better in terms of sound or just slightly more warm to neutral?
Both Focal and B&W are vastly overrated companies. I don’t understand why people like their speakers so much. Absolutely obnoxious treble and muffled mids is not a combination I would recommend to anyone. I don’t think any streamers could mitigate those problems. Not the Eversolo’s fault imo
I think you misunderstand. I am referring to revealing and resolving speakers and stating you can hear digital glare when using the eversolo. I never said the eversolo should fix the problem these speakers have.
I think it would be fine. I used to have the Metas and they are less bright than the Heco Celan Revolution 3s that Nemo mentions. I like brightness and got rid of the Metas because they were not bright enough. Metas are pretty neutral.
From my experience those are slightly brighter than neutral speakers like the Heco Celan Revolution 3s he mentions in his interview. I would think his same caveats apply to you as the Heco Celan.
Dynaudio's treble is interesting in that it's on the forward side of neutral but with an attack that is on the softer side so it's oddly forgiving for a speaker thats on the forward side of neutral. I do have them here and tried that combination. I could still hear the glare but I really had to listen for it so I'd say that combination will be just fine for most people unless you are very sensitive in the treble region.
Has anyone set up this streamer with Focal Aria 936 speakers bypassing the DAC? @nemo - Is it worth purchasing this streamer if you are not using the DAC functionality?
Yo, what use case are you describing here? Analog out using internal DAC? USB out into a separate DAC? Optical out? I don't have a reference for what you're saying.
Thanks! Yeah, the internal DAC is definitely no good, and I've found the optical output is pretty horb as well (I'm super sensitive to sketchy treble). I agree with you in general on the review, not mega happy with the product overall. Did you think that via USB to the Ares it still added some bad treble characteristics vs. other streamers? I also don't love the app with tidal, it takes forever to load all your songs, vs on DLNA apps like mconnect which load all your songs in one go and you can just keep scrolling! Thanks for your honest review and thoughts! @@NemoPropaganda
Ok yeah. Yeah what's so frustrating is that even with Tidal on mconnect (a free DLNA app) it all loads in nearly instantly, so it's clearly possible, but all other streamers I've seen load your playlists / collections piecemeal only as you scroll further 🙄@@NemoPropaganda
I bypass the DAC in the Eversolo and use it purely as a streamer. In that respect it works very well. I love the app, usability, screen art. It's not perfect but for the money it's very good. Yes I could have saved money with a Wiim, but it's not about getting the cheapest possible for me. I know I could get a lot better too, HiFi Rose RS130 for instance, but weighing everything up, the Eversolo is a great price for what you get
well said, I agree!
@elthamlad468 - That is what I was thinking - I am thinking of purchasing this and bypassing the DAC, but I would also consider how intuitive the apps are - not sure how wiim pro app is; aesthetics is huge part, I think with the beautiful display it would look great with my setup. I agree, its just not about using the unit for a particular functionality but over-all experience. Have you used with the DAC and what differences have you noticed?
@@TheJoker-qc6jq I have used the internal DAC but it wasn't as good as either of my separate DACs. My new amp, Cambridge Audio Edge A, has a built in DAC but a very high quality one, so the A6 doesn't even come close.
Same here. Using the DMP-A6 with a Geshelli Labs J2S DAC with the Sparkos ss2590 Opamps, going into Klipsch Forte IV's and I love it. I did also add the upgraded power supply, but since you can't easily A/B test without two units, it was difficult to comment on the return on investment. As a standalone streamer and DAC, I am not a fan of the ESS chips, and I agree with the premise of this video. As a streamer going into an external DAC, this is tough to beat. Works great with Roon, and also as a local server to stream files that you own. The latest software/firmware update added more features, and eliminated many bugs, which is great to see.
I also bypass the DAC in my Eversolo DMP-A6, instead I use Chord Hugo TT2 / M-Scaler combo, after which I run through my Michi X3 and Bowers and Wilkins 804 D4s (this is a very bright setup). The Digital output from the A6 is solid, the sound issues that you discuss in this review relate to the analog output stage using the duel ESS9038Q2M 32-Bit DAC set up (similar to the Topping D50s). The digital transport side of this Streamer is as good as Naim or Cambridge audio streamers (I have tried these), and that is where the value sits for this little streamer feature packed flexible interface with NAS level storage and strong digital stage pass through. I will be picking up an Eversolo DMP-A8 after christmas, so looking forward to seeing if the sound stage improvements stated are actually true (for the digital side of the unit). Thanls for the comments.
Let us know your experience when you get the A8!
I think your m-scaler will make hearing differences between streamers quite difficult though. I heard from a lot of reviews the a6 digital out is lean sounding.
The reason I follow you is because you don't always give the highest 5/5 praise to every product out there. I'm so sick and tired of the audiophile circlejerk. Thanks for your honesty, clarity, and fresh perspective.
thank you brother, I appreciate that!
Exactly. I was pondering over small speakers last year. His review of my top contender, the Dynaudio Evoke 20, left me a little degressed. But then I watched and listened more. These speakers ended up being right up my ally. As an older audiophile, my ears are easliy annoyed by bright, harsh overly detailed speakers. For casual listening these are excellent. Carefull matching and I've ended up with a system that is right for me. Tough love is the best medicine!
Thank you ever so much for the time and work it takes to share your knowledge Nemo,, 👍🌟👍
Cheers,, ☕😋🍰
Was at Axpona ‘23 & listened to $500-40K DAC’s on many high end racks. Put more money into speakers and amps. Comparing DAC’s is like comparing bottled water. Eversolo, Wiim, and Bluesound are crushing it.
yeah, DAC under $1k are mostly very similar.
I just bought the Eversolo Master Edition and I have multiple setups I can run it through. When it arrives I will start by using it as a streamer and DAC. I also have the Amari DAC and will run the Eversolo with that through some B&W speakers to see if the highs gain any benefit from a stand alone DAC. Thanks for the review and heads up!
I have both the DMP-A6, and just picked up the A8. The glare is fairly common with Ess chips. I can say that the A8 is amazing definitely a bit more weight and heft to the sound. I mean 10 input sources and 6 different outputs on top of the akm implementation is great. The flexibility of these units is amazing. The versatility is unmatched at the price point. I do wish the A8 would have had a larger screen. The A6 is an all around great value. When I pair the A6 with the Geshelli Labs J2 with the Akm chip, that is the thick dynamic sound that you just don’t get with most ESS chips.
Great feedback!! One thing you omitted to mention - was your experience of the artificial highs using the internal dac or while using an external one?
Master edition is smoother and warmer sounding then the standard. It pairs better with brighter speakers. Use the slow roll off filter. If you use the USB input it also sounds warmer but that takes away alot of the streamer value. I guess that's because of the upgraded femto clock.
I tried it both ways.
It’s my expeience as well. A beautifil streamer with soun towards the highs. Thats why I have sold it and bought the A-8.
More control with the highs…😊
Great overview!!
Thanks NEMO for the gritty truth brother!.....
I think you are spot on with the caution of pairing it with speakers that have bite on the top end. When I audition it on Focal Kanta 2's I did not warm up to its sound. When we switched to the Paradigm Fonder 120H I was glued to the listening chair. Playing one track after another for 2 hours. As with anything synergy is an important consideration but for me that applies to everything not just the Eversolo. Mating it with mellow sounding amplification I am enjoying the hell out of the A6 Master I purchased. I do not have a desire to upgrade.
Thanks for the review, was really interested in Eversolo Streamers, but I'am focal user, so many reviews and finally someone told the most important part - about synergy 🙂There is a lot of good sounding equipment out there now, but software often is a weak part for streamers, I still use my beloved Primare NP5 MKII and I couldn't be happier, it sounds better than it costs and you don't have to worry about software, you can control any music service from the native app, just set and forget 😊
Unfortunately some equipment is just tuned that way. I noticed it does not have DSP also a low noise power supply can fix most DAC problems... A-8 includes all the things needed for long term happiness it's possible to fix the A-6 with their custom rendering engine...
I’m running the A6 Master Edition with B&W 702 S2 and I haven’t noticed any harshness in the top end.
The same with Spendor D7.
I have the A6 (non-master) paired with B&W’s 683 S2s (REL sub) and it’s wonderful. My ears may not perceive enough of the spectrum of music to make any insightful conclusions about harshness or brightness, but I’m overjoyed with the A6 (+ Tidal’s hi-res tracks).
I pair my A6 ME with my DDC- DAC Denafrips with Willsenton R8i with Kef LS50 meta and Rel T5X , it’s a good combo I’m very happy with. I only play Apple M. Never had any prob with the software.
Nice! the amp & dac probably have good synergy together!
@@NemoPropaganda Yes I think the analogue nature of the R2R DAC and tube amp partners well with the A6
Couple of things I didn’t notice in the video. Is it bright as a streamer and DAC, or as a streamer only? Also what did you compare it against? In other words is the digital glare you mentioned the DAC implementation?
Thanks for doing these videos.
I used it with the internal dac and with an external dac. its brighter and has some digital glare either way compared to the cambridge MXN10 or Node.
Your highlighting about equipment- speaker matching is very good.
What DAC(s) tested. RME-ADI-2 user reported great results together (in his system). Subscribed
Had the Eversolo A6 paired with some Heresy 4's and hated the sound. Moved it downstairs to the Wharfedale Lintons and it sounded so much better. Funny how important the Eversolo pairs with certain speakers. Thanks for your review!
I had a Gustard R-26 that I was using as a Roon endpoint. I really like the sound of it but the interface leaves a lot to be desired. I got a an A6 to use as a streamer and am very pleased with the combination. Never tried the internal DAC. I’ve never had a control issue.
Excellent review. Thanks for your honesty, as always!
Respect for being honest and not wanting to validate the product for people.
Oh, and thanks for saving my money by not buying it, since I have Focal Chora 806.
I always appreciate the honest reviews. Great information.
thank you bro!
@@NemoPropaganda I appreciate the candor what would you suggest is a good streamer to pair bright speakers/systems with?
@@balooo2863 cambridge MXN10 or Bluesound Node, of course the rest of your system matters too.
Thank you for making it easier to understand, as I am currently in the market for lower to mid point streamer
Frank and important detail
I have a bright speaker and your highlight is very important
Thank you
I already have a DAC and amp that I'm happy with, so this streamer would be overkill for me. I use my DAP for desktop streaming. The USB output is connected to a DDC (Douk Audio U2 PRO XMOS XU208 Digital Interface) that is powered by linear power supply (iFi iPower Low Noise DC Power Supply). The optical output of the DDC is connected to my DAC. The quality of USB streaming output from my DAP (Shanling M3X) is better than that from any of my phones. You could skip the DDC, but it does noticably improve tone an timbre of the output when powered by the linear power supply.
Disclosure, I bought it because of the hype but absolutely love it!
nothing wrong with that brother :)
You ROCK Nemo ! Just love the no 💩 approach and truth ! Thank you 🙏
thank you Paul!!
Two of the Best reviewers are Jay and iiWi Reviews. Bang for your buck, Eversolo. I do use the DMP-A6 with Focal Aria 936, but here is the difference, I use a Sunvalley SV-S1616D 300B Tube Amp. SS with the DMP-A6 with the speakers you have listed...Treble will be Bright. Tube gear then no issues at all.
Great info Nemo, appreciate the honest review.
I've been happy with my node 130s. Runs solid.. great customer service, they really do listen to the community.. great updates..idk.. itll prob be the last thing id upgrade. U ever get around to trying that LPS kit with the Node? :p
no not yet.
I greatly appreciate the candid review. I have a more revealing system and annoying / poorly resolved treble gets under my skin quickly. I'm hoping you'll do a candid comparison review with the A8. I've read the AKM vs. ESS setup and better clock result in a warmer / smoother sound profile which could make for a much better pairing with my setup (that includes B&W 803Ds). I'm wondering if that may be worth the 2x cost given I have absolutely no interest in using the pre-amp functionality.
I don't really want to review streamers anymore so it's unlikely but my buddy who's a dealer has the same speakers and he loves aurlilac and said even the older used stuff is crazy good. Hope that helps.
First off….., nice beard.
As a user of one, I’d say it definitely isn’t a streamer to be used with bright electronics | speakers | cabling loom. Mine is used with either an Exposure 3510 or Heed Audio Obelisk Si MK lll amplification and a pair of Neat Acoustics Ministra speakers ( which themselves are neutral ) and most importantly build upon a synergistic whole which is vital……., personally I love its sound, or sense of musicality, mor3 than more expensive digital gear I’ve owned, like using an Aurender X100L, with both the Denafrips Ares or Pontus ll DACs, apples and oranges I’d say.
thank you for the compliment sir! I'm happy it's working well in your system, I think it will work well in many peoples system as long as their is some care when selecting components.
Interesting take. I noticed in Stereophile and High News and Record Review measurements of Kef ls60 wireless that the speakers have 2 or 3 db taken out of the 8-15 kHz area. You know Kef can make an active speaker sound however they want. I listen to CDs and LPs because that’s what I own so I’m not able to compare with streaming. Synergy (and setup) as you say is huge.
Anther excellent job. I went nutso and got an Auralic G1.1 and it has been wonderful. Maybe someone should consider a used older Auralic G1 if they can justify the expenditure. I am speculating that one of their not current models might sound more neutral and enjoyable. Just a thought. I spent $3200 for the streamer but now the G1.1 is doe to get replaced and they are blowing them out for $2300. You might get a G1 for $1500 used. If you can stand the drag on your wallet, I'd say consider it. Might be your last streamer for a long time.
Did you feel the 3x the price over sub $1k streamers gave a notable improvement or was it more nuance?
My previous streamer was a Node 3rd gen with a LPS. It was very good but the Auralic outperformed it. More neutral. the sound quality is so good I cant tell from CD. They supposedly put a lot into getting the best Wifi which I need. Overall very pleased and not motivated to change. The bumme is the screen is small and the menu lettering really small. You are welcome to drop by and judge for yourself. Nothing like first hand experience. heh.@@NemoPropaganda
@@fletchermunson6225 that's awesome to hear, If things slow down that could be cool, right now I'm traveling all around between work and holiday stuff.
BT. I found a recording that I love to play for bass. Called Bass Room by a musician named Princip. A lot of stand up bass etc. Love it.@@NemoPropaganda
Thanks for this piece. Was looking hard at this unit to pair with my KLH Model 3's and Audiolab 6000A... bummed that it might not be a good pairing based on yours, Jays and I think Darko's comments on the upper frequencies. Ready to upgrade from the Belkin Soundform Connect though.
Yeah brother streamers are tough, I personally feel under $1k the fidelity overall is very close with all of them. My friend is a dealer and he feels the next upgrade is in the $3k territory for streamers and most of us (myself included) just won't spend that.
While on the topic of synergy...what about pairing the DMP A6 with tube amps versus solid state? Will the "warmness" of 300B's tame some of the high frequency concerns?
it's possible, in this hobby every little thing can have an impact so I always encourage people to try and have their own experience if finances allow :)
i was considering the a6 but i went the wiim pro plus and the eversolo dac-z6 and couldn't be happier.
Maybe the LPS-A6 linear power supply will improve the high frequencies?
possibly but I think the real takeaway here is synergy matters and there just has to be some care given to equipment matching.
I’m very confused cuz some reviewers only talk abt the streamer, what abt the DAC and preamp ? What if you pair it with active spkrs like Genelec G3 ? How are you using it ? And what about the master edition ? Too many questions unanswered.
I've had the master edition model for a month now.
and i use genelec 8340 dsp speakers in it. The sound is really brilliant and honey. Not the slightest reason to complain, listens either digitally coax or analog xlr/rca with either active loud speaker.
The master edition is a different product and I don't use powered speakers personally so I can't really help with that. I review products based on the way I use them, I can't cover all the usage scenarios.
Love your groove!
so, if the eversolo es more transparent, detailed and spacious then the cambridge cxn 100, , you would recommend it to make a good match with the dynaudio special forty?
I have not heard the cxn 100
I like the review. I can agree with much of what you say. However, where we can agree to disagree is in speaker pairings. While your opinion is correct to your ears, I’d rather leave it up to the individual and how they perceive the sound before making a blanket statement that the DMP-A6 won’t work well with a particular type of speaker. Everyone hears differently.
As to your issues with the App, let me say that in my limited use of the App (and I’ve had my A6 for as long as you have), it’s ok. I’ve had no problems with it. BUT… I use Roon and control the A6 playback with the Roon App and I have NEVER, not once, had any problems. Just something for your readers to keep in mind.
Is the Eversolo DMP-A6 the be all/end all of streamers? No. Is it the best for its price? Absolutely. It just works.
I hear ya but then again you could say the same thing about any criticism on youtube.
I think its not just speakers. Its the dac, amp and room which needs to be considered .Its the whole system baby..sounds great in my system. Im using it as a streamer into my integrated amp/dac (Denon -PMAA110 - warm amp, triangle borea 08 - not as lively as klipsh rp series, in a bright-ish room).
happy you're loving it bro :)
@@NemoPropaganda thanks dude, it fits my needs perfectly but now it makes my entry record player sound like a turd.. 😂
@@2HatHudders yeah that happens brother, I got an OLED TV 1 year ago and now my LED TV in my other review looks so bad lol
@@NemoPropaganda definitely!!! It's the rabbit hole we all go though.. oooh do like an oled. I have both too, the led i use in the living room (less reflection and the brightness capability makes it more practical - but cannot beat an oled for that cinematic experience when the lights are off/dimily lit.)
They are adding EQ soon, so high frequencies can be smoothed. Nevertheless I am using it with focal speakers and warm amp and it sounds SUPERB
I don't think EQ can change the fidelity of the treble.
We are talking about smoothing out, not fidelity. Anyway, the statement of poor pairing with Focal speakers is not right; in my case this combination sounds amazing. And Focal speakers are not as bright as they used to be. Aria and Kanta are not bright. I have never had better sound in my system
@@fofocho71 yeah, I have owned Aria & Kanta for many years, I reviewed both as well as Chora, it's not just about being brighter, it's about being resolving.
I have the Choras in one room,,they are “aggressive”, I use them for gaming. In the main room I have the Arias 948 and they are a different beast, much more refined, paired with NAD and Marantz and I find them even on the warm side of neutral
Thank you for your review as I'm new to this whole streamer and dac game. What do you think of the ever solo A6 combined with aerial acoustic 10T speakers?
I’ve been interested in this since it came out but I’m not convinced it’ll actually sound better than my Wiim mini/Geshelli Labs J2 AKM setup. Speakers are Lintons. Enjoy the current sound but would like the screen for album art and vu meters. Maybe just adding the douk audio vu meters would be a better middle ground.
in my experience most sub $1k streamers are more similar in terms of overall fidelity so I would not be surprised if your wiim/J2 setup sonically had similar sound quality.
@@NemoPropagandawhich over $1000 streamers would you recommend? I plan to use with an external DAC unless internal one is amazing. I have Pontus ii and Weiss 204 DACs. I have Heco Celan 3 Revolution speakers and love them.
@@ratingsdad I'm not really sure, my buddies a dealer and he feels like the $1k or less streamer market is really good and the next meaningful jump in sound quality is around the $3k category. Personally I havn't made that jump myself so I have not heard any dacs above $1k.
Nemo, I think to be fair you may have wanted to discuss using the DMP A6 as a Streamer vs full on with onboard dac a little more.
Frankly I am still a little fuzzy...the streamer section is bright with 50% of all setups or the full on unit itself?
both, I used it with its internal dac and with an Ares12th-1, I mention this in the video.
Nemo, I have a much-needed request on a product that I’ve not seen one critical listener cover. I’ve been looking into some of the products that do audio and video on possibly higher level?(Zidoo products). Disappointing really. I mean who wouldn’t want to see the concert that they are listening to through something that upscales video and audio? I don’t know if you can that would be cool I just don’t see a lot of people doing it.
I'm not familiar with that product.
Interesting that I heard you say you sent your demo unit back to Eversolo. You might have seen 13th Note Reviews recently video where he said that Eversolo was telling other reviewers they could just keep the demo unit, which, of course, they could then sell or something.
No I did not see his video, I don't watch other reviewers content unless it's specifically a product I'm personally interested in. Some people did post about it in my discord and this was my response if you're interested in my opinion on the topic: "When the YT channel is the content creators primary source of income it is a fallacy to believe the viewer or even MFG takes any priority over the channel itself. The YT channel at that point is a for profit business and that's okay. We all love tons of for profit businesses like the NFL for example. You either trust them or you don't. That's all it really comes down to."
How good is the sound out of the DAC between the A6 and the Cambridge MXN10?
A6 stages a little deeper and has a little more dimension overall while the MXN10 is more balanced with it's presentation and a little more refined in the treble region.
Finally an honest real review, thank you. I have Klipsch Heresy iii and Magnepan 1.7i so this might not pair well with my speakers.
I want to clarify something for my own edification. You said pairing with Ares did help with the top end a bit but it wasn't the right thin to do. Should I understand it as even with an external DAC, Eversolo is too sharp on the top en (with neutral/bright speakers). I was wondering how this would sound through a Schiit system with a Bifrost 2 DAC to Buchardt S400 MkII. Also, any thoughts on the new Cambridge Audio CXN100? I see some open box options for $699.
the dmp a6 pairs just fine with the s400, I have not heard that cambridge, only the mxn10.
Finally, some honesty instead of hype. I have highly resolving speakers - Harbeth SHL5plus - and I simply couldn’t live with the A6 (I used it as a streamer only. Didn’t use the DAC). I’ve sold mine (after 4 months), and so has a good friend of mine. The treble is too bright. The leading edges are very hard, not natural. It not only led to listening fatigue in a short period of time, it would literally make my ears ring. I tried different cables to tone it down, but to no avail. I also have to say that the bass is nice, but very thin. Yes, the A6 is very detailed, but the overall presentation is not well balanced tonally. While all that detail is enthralling at first, with time the weaknesses of the A6 begin to reveal themselves. Obviously, Nemo is hearing what I heard and I appreciate his honesty, but he’s still being overly kind to the A6.
I think your system pairing wasn’t a good fit for eversolo. I usually match warm and cool components. Hope you found a good combo
you're probably a little sensitive to unrefined treble, I have the same issue.
I was looking for a streamer that I could add to the mix and likely with GoldenEar speakers. Would this be a fit or, are there others that are a better match?
I'm not familiar with those speakers but I feel like the only reason you'd buy this is because it looks nice otherwise you can save some cash and get something equally performing but more plain jane looking like the Cambridge MXN10. For the record theres nothing wrong with paying a premium for a certain aesthetic.
Thanks so much for the insight! What would you say about pairing it with the Elac Vela FS 407?
I have never heard any of the Elac Vela speakers so I'm not sure.
Believe the hype!
Was about to go for this device to use with a STAX headphone setup, but now I watched this, maybe it isn't an ideal choice - what would you recommend for resolving speakers / headphones?
Sorry my bro I don't know what that is, I don't use headphones myself.
@@NemoPropaganda thx for replying and your channel
How do I use the dac while streaming the internal apps? Do I connect the the a6 to a preamp?
if you're using the dmp as6 analog outputs like RCA then you're using the internal dac, if you're using digital outputs you are not using the internal dac.
Would you recommend as a DAC streamer under two grand for more resolving speakers?
I'm not a dac & streamer expert but I very much enjoy using the node & ares combination.
I would appreciate your advice based on your expertise and unbiased reviews. I need a subwoofer to combine with NAD 758 v3i receiver and Definitive Technology four Mythos1 towers and one center channel Mythos 8 speakers. Musicality and aesthetics are the objective rather than power. I am undecided between B & W asw608/610 and Monitor Audio Radius 380. Cost is not an issue. Which one would you recommend? By the way, SVS 3000 Micro or Kef KC62 are not under consideration as I do not need that power to be used in my condominium. Thanks
Aesthetics? Why not REL T7x or 1003 mk2? Also SVS & KC62 are not crazy powerful, just because they have a lot of watts it doesn't mean they are crazy loud. The 300watt REL 1003 MK2 can play louder than the 1000w KC62! No matter what sub you get you will blend it with your system so it doesn't matter how loud or powerful it is at full volume as you will most likely listen at reasonable levels :). Finally B&W ASW range is very underpowered, their specs are not honest.
I considered the REL T7x. However, I am concerned that the down firing passive radiator may affect negatively the music detail.
I am still leaning towards the B&W ASW608/610 or the Monitor Audio Radius 380 (not much information on it). By the way, the Rel T7x is more expensive than the SVS 3000 micro in Canada but is under consideration now.
@@manuc4246 You said cost is not an issue, REL makes some of the best sounding subwoofers in the world, your worry of the T7x in regards to music detail is severely misguided. Of course aesthetics are personal but if aesthetics are a concern personally I feel REL makes some of the best looking and sounding subwoofers. B&W ASW series is 15 year old vinyl wrapped cabinet that maybe has 100 honest watts. The ASW series isn't bad but its not competative in todays market. If the T7x is too expensive at least get the 1003 MK2, it easily embarasses any of the ASW subs.
Thank you. I prefer the specifications of the REL T7x. More compact and better looking. I will purchase it on Boxing Day.
Is it necessary to have an additional amplifier to connect a DAC to speakers? Can you connect speakers with just DMP A6?
you need an amp, the DMP A6 has no power (watts) of its own. If you want a streamer with a built in amp check out the Powernode.
Does anyone make a quality budget ( or not ) streamer that is super basic? I only use two music apps on my system and nothing else. I don't use a boat load of features other than lots of connectivity options. Wiim is ok but fell there is better but just as basic.
how about the Cambridge MXN10 or the new Bluesound Node Nano?
i have not found a use for a streamer, i play thru my pc and can not imagine fiddling with the item itself on the front or whatever else you can control it with. for large rooms a huge tv and a nice ir remote to navigate menus or something i can see myself use if i get a tv if tv's et sensible again.
I've never used a PC for streaming personally but I understanding is they can have some noise and a dedicated streamer could/should be an upgrade in terms of overall sound quality.
Hi Nemo, great insights on the A6 and system matching. What Streamers below $1k can you suggest for Focal Kanta 1 and Hegel H190 system? Hoping to hear valuable inputs. Thank you.
I feel most streamers under $1k are fairly similar in overall fidelity but I use the node with an Ares2. The Cabridge MXN10 is about $100 less and sounds just as good.
Hi Nemo, is adding Gustard R26 DAC to my chain, Hegel H190 + Eversolo DMP A6 with Focal Kanta 1, will make the sound more holographic and "bigger"? Thank you 😊
sounded good to me. But the price is so high like so many items. I think that some reviewers may have some benefits when they over react to this items.
what benifit? I don't understand what you mean.
I’m happy with my wiim pro for $125 out to an external Dac. The screen is cool but I’m happy with my existing steamers. Appreciate your straight forward comments here
Hard to beat the WiiM Pro w/Linear Power Supply and an external DAC.
@@michaelwright1602 I have a wiim pro,
BlueSound node (latest) and Sonore ultra rendu with upgraded LPS all running to externals dacs. They are all fantastic steamers and do things a bit differently.
I have wiim pro but it doesn't read all kind of files..and no usb input.
I've got the Revel F35's, would it pair well with them?
depends how much you like an analytical top end.
Thanks!
Magnapan LSR+ with the Eversolo BMP A6?
no idea my bro, my room is sadly too small for maggies so I never tested them here :(
A6 is feature rich but can be buggy and not deal breaker.
What about pairing with sonus faber lumina V?
I'm not sure.
Honest opinion
I'm glad you told the truth
I think everyone told their own truth but some guys film a little too quick where I generally spend 30-60 days with the product, sometimes more.
I really don’t like this product as don’t think it has a good enough dac plus I thought for the price it should have come with the remote
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure mine came with a remote.
what about revel 228be speakers ?
I'm not really a fan of revel.
I understand that this is not the right hardware for my KEF R3 Meta.
What would you recommend for a streamer/dac in a budget of €1000?
I think most streamers under $1k are more similar than different. How about the Cambridge MXN10?
Thanks for the heads up nemo. The Kanta comment tells me everything i need to know. .. basically, this isnt going to reolace a $5k streamer, nor should it.
exactly. very few products are giant killers.
@@NemoPropaganda you're a giant killer Nemo! Glad you're on RUclips in the hifi space, lending your unique perspective to this hobby. I'm being serious, we'd be disadvantaged without your voice.
@@erics.4113 that's very kind of you to say my bro, you put a smile on my face!
How do you feel about the Bluesound Node. Do you think it pairs better with highly resolving speakers?
most streamers I've heard under $1k are fairly similar in terms of overall fidelity or sound quality. The Eversolo stages deeper and slightly larger while the node has a little more refinement in the high frequencies.
The Node is lower quality than this so will sound worse overall IMO. I had an Audiolab 6000N and it even kicked the Node’s butt. You’re better off with this or another streamer than the Node. I also used to have Klipsch Heresy iii speakers and they are bright. I would be careful what amp you use with them as too much brightness can be a bad thing. They were brighter than the Heco Celan Revolution 3s that Nemo mentions in this video.
hi, good match for kef r3 meta?
personally I don't think so.
@@NemoPropaganda, I am in the same situation. What would you recomend in the same price range. It could be less if the sound quality is similar. I dont need screens or thousands of features that I might not use at all...
@@Alextraz how about the cambridge mxn10?
@@NemoPropaganda, thanks for the reply. I have found same response already in another similar thread. My system (arcam amp and ked r3 meta) might be slightly on the warm side so this A6 might be still a possibility. Do you have experience with the cxn100. Is is better in terms of sound or just slightly more warm to neutral?
Both Focal and B&W are vastly overrated companies. I don’t understand why people like their speakers so much. Absolutely obnoxious treble and muffled mids is not a combination I would recommend to anyone. I don’t think any streamers could mitigate those problems. Not the Eversolo’s fault imo
I think you misunderstand. I am referring to revealing and resolving speakers and stating you can hear digital glare when using the eversolo. I never said the eversolo should fix the problem these speakers have.
How about with Kef ls50 meta?
I think it would be fine. I used to have the Metas and they are less bright than the Heco Celan Revolution 3s that Nemo mentions. I like brightness and got rid of the Metas because they were not bright enough. Metas are pretty neutral.
depends on the rest of your gear. I think it could go either way.
Thank you .
My system is on the warmer side of neutral being a axr100 and elac debut b6.2s wanting a little more detail so I think this will pair wonderfully
I think so too!
@@NemoPropaganda I plan on upgrading to the CXA81 and the unifi reference I’m excited
The WiFi is terrible it’s the Eversolo mistake
I didn't try the wifi, luckily I have an ethernet drop right behind my rac.
How would it pair with Dynaudio speakers (evoke 20’s for example)?
From my experience those are slightly brighter than neutral speakers like the Heco Celan Revolution 3s he mentions in his interview. I would think his same caveats apply to you as the Heco Celan.
Dynaudio's treble is interesting in that it's on the forward side of neutral but with an attack that is on the softer side so it's oddly forgiving for a speaker thats on the forward side of neutral. I do have them here and tried that combination. I could still hear the glare but I really had to listen for it so I'd say that combination will be just fine for most people unless you are very sensitive in the treble region.
I don't believe the hype
Has anyone set up this streamer with Focal Aria 936 speakers bypassing the DAC? @nemo - Is it worth purchasing this streamer if you are not using the DAC functionality?
Yo, what use case are you describing here? Analog out using internal DAC? USB out into a separate DAC? Optical out? I don't have a reference for what you're saying.
I used internal DAC and external DAC via usb to Ares 12th-1.
Thanks! Yeah, the internal DAC is definitely no good, and I've found the optical output is pretty horb as well (I'm super sensitive to sketchy treble). I agree with you in general on the review, not mega happy with the product overall. Did you think that via USB to the Ares it still added some bad treble characteristics vs. other streamers? I also don't love the app with tidal, it takes forever to load all your songs, vs on DLNA apps like mconnect which load all your songs in one go and you can just keep scrolling! Thanks for your honest review and thoughts! @@NemoPropaganda
@@carsdankandchicks the ares 12th helped but that adds $1k which is a lot. Tidal is imperfect for sure, it loads slowly on my node also :(.
Ok yeah. Yeah what's so frustrating is that even with Tidal on mconnect (a free DLNA app) it all loads in nearly instantly, so it's clearly possible, but all other streamers I've seen load your playlists / collections piecemeal only as you scroll further 🙄@@NemoPropaganda
Thanks!