I was very interested in the early days of the project. Make use of all the old hard drives laying about but now I see it as a waste of electric and bandwidth if both of them were plenty I may give it ago, but until then I will enjoy watching others that can do what I'm unable to.
I have a single 1U with 12 bays laying around, I can stuff around 40TB in that box with disks I have. The problem is the energy bill. I would get around €60 to €80 a month from StorJ for the storage, but the energybill alone would also be quite high in the €50's. So it wouldn't be worth it for me. Also, you have to account for failures and I wouldn't be able to pretty much rebuild my whole lab. I like the concept, but the energy pricing is too high for it to be worth it for me.
yea i agree, I was thinking you almost need solar panels. If one could find some free or cheap panels that someone was replacing, it could be used in say a shed to just power the systems for free.
A single 20TB disk will be ~$40/month. I've got 8 of them running in another rig, so having aditional space in the short term - as I say in the video - Is worth it to me :) Check out the follow-up video I made, where I take all the old disks out of production again. I think you might enjoy it friend
Freedom for light to enter through bulletholes in small huts, in all countries where oil can be found. The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away - taxpayermonies are converted into hot brass in an efficient machine.
That’s so cool, I was planing to build a server for hosting my website anyway, I think I will do it similar like you then. Thanks for the great idea. I have 11ct/kwh, I could run additional disks for 0,64€/month. Do you set up multiple nodes to grow them? Is it working that you get more files in total, compared to one big node?
@@Ostenchillt hello friend, good idea! Running Many nodes is just to spread the load over multiple disks. You youre running on modern hardware, I would highly suggest a single node - all data is distributed evenly between a single /24 subnet
Purchasing new drives for StorJ application is discouraged by the team, and buying 1TB mechanical drives for any purpose is discouraged by .. everyone. They're far too expensive in their electricity cost, compared to what they might yield in gains. I did this only because I had the disks on hand already.
$1,5 to $3 per month with egress sounds kinda much for a storage with almost no service guarantee - they need to have 4-5 copies out, and if they pay for the extra load of rebuilds (audit) then they are highly exposed in case of software bugs etc.
The current payouts can be found on StorJs website here: storj.dev/node/payouts Every single file upload is being broken into 80 shards, of which only 29 is needed to rebuild the file again. Resiliency is built directly into StorJ, and should a node fail an audit, the system will rebuild that piece on another node in another place. StorJ have never lost a single segment - I find it to be very, very sturdy.
@@Hypernerdwithcam Nah, won’t make a difference. The drive heads are parked when the drives are powered down, making them very resilient. If they were powered on while dropped, then you’d be absolutely right :)
Id say it's viable for you too. In the future disks will be cheaper, and you can move to a more dense storage medium - as long as you're not losing money right now, you,re just building passive income *and* helping provide an alternative to AWS in the mean time :)
@@toseltreps1101 The attached coin is not a regular crypto currency, it's a utility coin. Only a fool would not convert into FIAT as soon as they are paid, because that's what you do with utility coins. Also StorJ only pays for what is actually being stored by customers, so it's an efficient system by design - compared to let's say Chia, where you spend a lot of time plotting lottery tickets that then in the future *might* be used for customer data. THAT is a failing project - StorJ is on exponential growth right now.
Every single file (or subpart of a file, for that matter), get's split into 80 shards. You get one, and only one shard of the file. 29 shards are required to rebuild a file, and the rebuild happens on client side - not server side. From my perspective, all data I store is complete garbage - the value comes only when the network stitches the file back together. This also brings some very interesting performance enhancements, as multiple nodes can work together to send the file, thus getting many of the characteristics of a P2P network ... without any node having the full file of course.
Oh, you mean the overly caricated driking noise, made by practically impaling myself on the microphone and then slurping as much as possible? Yeah, it's a cardinal sin, I agree. Shame indeed, you missed out on being audiably violated by both Half Life, some beepboobs and even a rainy bike trip
@@LivinginHongkong1 misophonia is a Strange thing. I’m not too fond of people eating Apples myself, and would most likely not watch a video while someone was eating an apple through it all. It’s pretty funny though, I’ll give you a shoutout in a future video homie. And I Will splurp more drink in your honor 🫡
spændende, kan det betale sig i strøm?. havde en storj server for nogle år siden men serveren gik ned og jeg blev banned for at være offline så opgav at starte forfra :)
No, these 11 disks will use more power than what the projected $4 income will give. Doing it like this is primarily give me space to add new nodes while I wait for larger disks to become available to me. How did your server die? StorJ is (currently) quite generous with downtime - you must have been offline for over two weeks of you got banned. Either way, if you have a new server that's spinning anyways it's free money.
"Liberty through lead". I like it!
Thanks friend! :)
I was very interested in the early days of the project. Make use of all the old hard drives laying about but now I see it as a waste of electric and bandwidth if both of them were plenty I may give it ago, but until then I will enjoy watching others that can do what I'm unable to.
Love the Source sound effects.
I have a single 1U with 12 bays laying around, I can stuff around 40TB in that box with disks I have. The problem is the energy bill. I would get around €60 to €80 a month from StorJ for the storage, but the energybill alone would also be quite high in the €50's. So it wouldn't be worth it for me. Also, you have to account for failures and I wouldn't be able to pretty much rebuild my whole lab.
I like the concept, but the energy pricing is too high for it to be worth it for me.
yea i agree, I was thinking you almost need solar panels. If one could find some free or cheap panels that someone was replacing, it could be used in say a shed to just power the systems for free.
in winter it may be worth it.
But is it able to offset the cost of the electricity bills incurred by running that server?
No, but nor is it the the point right now. The old disks are only there to help me have space to grow into, while I wait for newer disks to arrive :)
That would completely defeat the purpose
@@Bobo-ox7fj no, it would not, I’m fine with paying a little bit more now to get additional income in the future :)
Liberty beer and electronics the smell of freedom
@@patzfan8086 a huge thank you must be raised to Asian fans producing American designs
comfortable to watch and listen
@@rynax009 thank you my friend
a cold tuborg is the best
$2 per TB per month max, that is not even paying back the power bill...
A single 20TB disk will be ~$40/month. I've got 8 of them running in another rig, so having aditional space in the short term - as I say in the video - Is worth it to me :)
Check out the follow-up video I made, where I take all the old disks out of production again. I think you might enjoy it friend
That box brings freedom
Freedom for light to enter through bulletholes in small huts, in all countries where oil can be found. The lord giveth, and the lord taketh away - taxpayermonies are converted into hot brass in an efficient machine.
@@Ottetalthat box destroys russian orcs too
i have 2 8 bay synolgly disks..will i be able to use this on both of them to offer drive space?
@@minibikemadman yeah, you Can absolutely do that :)
That’s so cool, I was planing to build a server for hosting my website anyway, I think I will do it similar like you then. Thanks for the great idea. I have 11ct/kwh, I could run additional disks for 0,64€/month. Do you set up multiple nodes to grow them? Is it working that you get more files in total, compared to one big node?
@@Ostenchillt hello friend, good idea! Running Many nodes is just to spread the load over multiple disks. You youre running on modern hardware, I would highly suggest a single node - all data is distributed evenly between a single /24 subnet
I can buy 1tb drives for 10 euros at my local ewast recycle company. Pretty cool concept, but the drive bay seems pretty expensive to me.
Purchasing new drives for StorJ application is discouraged by the team, and buying 1TB mechanical drives for any purpose is discouraged by .. everyone. They're far too expensive in their electricity cost, compared to what they might yield in gains. I did this only because I had the disks on hand already.
$1,5 to $3 per month with egress sounds kinda much for a storage with almost no service guarantee - they need to have 4-5 copies out, and if they pay for the extra load of rebuilds (audit) then they are highly exposed in case of software bugs etc.
The current payouts can be found on StorJs website here: storj.dev/node/payouts
Every single file upload is being broken into 80 shards, of which only 29 is needed to rebuild the file again. Resiliency is built directly into StorJ, and should a node fail an audit, the system will rebuild that piece on another node in another place. StorJ have never lost a single segment - I find it to be very, very sturdy.
Those drives wont live long after he threw that box around
@@Hypernerdwithcam Nah, won’t make a difference. The drive heads are parked when the drives are powered down, making them very resilient. If they were powered on while dropped, then you’d be absolutely right :)
how did you get all your nodes to share the same ip ?
@@techkenX they’re using different ports :)
Very cool😊
@@johnpearson5865 thank you :)
Cool video. I believe that 'StorJ' is pronounced 'Store Jay' vs. 'Storage'. :)
I did not know that! Corrected it in a new video, thank you very much friend
with the current electric prices in germany, i would have an income of 0.3$ per Month per TB.
Not really viable for me sadly haha
Id say it's viable for you too. In the future disks will be cheaper, and you can move to a more dense storage medium - as long as you're not losing money right now, you,re just building passive income *and* helping provide an alternative to AWS in the mean time :)
@@Ottetal No it's not in Germany. Its just a waste of energy.
it's a waste of everything, and the attached cryptocurrency bullshit makes it even less attractive
@@toseltreps1101 The attached coin is not a regular crypto currency, it's a utility coin. Only a fool would not convert into FIAT as soon as they are paid, because that's what you do with utility coins. Also StorJ only pays for what is actually being stored by customers, so it's an efficient system by design - compared to let's say Chia, where you spend a lot of time plotting lottery tickets that then in the future *might* be used for customer data. THAT is a failing project - StorJ is on exponential growth right now.
Alleen al de kosten voor de stroom maakt het niet de moeite waard.
Legal liability for illegal activity or items on your hardware? Sounds too risky.
Every single file (or subpart of a file, for that matter), get's split into 80 shards. You get one, and only one shard of the file. 29 shards are required to rebuild a file, and the rebuild happens on client side - not server side.
From my perspective, all data I store is complete garbage - the value comes only when the network stitches the file back together. This also brings some very interesting performance enhancements, as multiple nodes can work together to send the file, thus getting many of the characteristics of a P2P network ... without any node having the full file of course.
I wanted to watch the video but that drinking noise just made me stop watching , shame
Oh, you mean the overly caricated driking noise, made by practically impaling myself on the microphone and then slurping as much as possible? Yeah, it's a cardinal sin, I agree.
Shame indeed, you missed out on being audiably violated by both Half Life, some beepboobs and even a rainy bike trip
@Ottetal lol I have Misophonia I cant help it , it creates rage prefer I didn't have it lol
@@LivinginHongkong1 misophonia is a Strange thing. I’m not too fond of people eating Apples myself, and would most likely not watch a video while someone was eating an apple through it all.
It’s pretty funny though, I’ll give you a shoutout in a future video homie. And I Will splurp more drink in your honor 🫡
it’s not our problem you’re trying that hard, hoping to be popular and being a “content creator” it’s not that easy and not for everyone.
@@Maikel1500 I dont Think I understand. English is not my first language. Could you explain as if I was 4?
spændende, kan det betale sig i strøm?. havde en storj server for nogle år siden men serveren gik ned og jeg blev banned for at være offline så opgav at starte forfra :)
No, these 11 disks will use more power than what the projected $4 income will give. Doing it like this is primarily give me space to add new nodes while I wait for larger disks to become available to me.
How did your server die? StorJ is (currently) quite generous with downtime - you must have been offline for over two weeks of you got banned.
Either way, if you have a new server that's spinning anyways it's free money.