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2022 Lexus LX600 | Needs Work
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2024
- We review the new 2022 Lexus LX600, the Luxury Sibling of the Land Cruiser, and now Toyota Sequoia and Tundra. We discuss the changes to the body's interior, exterior, and technical parts. This Ultra Luxury trim is the top dog at $130,00k so expect to learn the good and bad.
Others to consider are the Cadillac Escalade, Jeep Wagoneer, BMW X7, Audi Q7, and Mercedes GLS.
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Index:
00:00 Exterior Impressions
1:17 Interior Impressions
5:57 Audio Testing
7:04 Mechanical Impressions
12:33 Driving Impressions
20:29 Final Thoughts
A very sophisticated suspension system for the next overland expedition to Lululemon.
Pretty much the best way to explain this vehicle.
It’ll be worth 90k in 15 years too, plenty of Patagonia money for future hiking 🥾 gear
I love sheer Lululemons
i assumed lexus customers were mostly middle aged and older people
@@LafemmebearMusic This is some Arcteryx money.
Glad to see Lexus has mastered connecting a car to a grill.
A grille that looks like a grill. I want to throw a couple of steaks on that expanse.
@@markmiller3279 Its the higher trim level, the Weber trim.
Love that grill. Better than Audi. Hey Toyota...get that infotainment fixed. GPS also...just put in a Garmin. 20 years of stupidity is enough. Are the brakes as good as a Porsche Cayenne ? and why not ???
@@ganeshdore audi grills are good and the infotainment is good lol
@@ganeshdore well said, my sentiments exactly.
Missed a chance to say "it's either going to turn heads or turn stomachs" :) Love the video and have been a long time fan of the channel. Keep it up!
Was thinking the same thing!
It’s crazy yet refreshing to not see clickbait titles! Keep up the good work 😃
Man, that’s the first thing I thought when I saw it! Then I clicked on it 😂
THE LEXUS LX600 IS A 100,000 FAILURE!1!!!1 -999 DOUGPOINTS
I hate repeating myself, but you guys make some of the best car review videos on RUclips. Can't wait to see how reliable this gen is so I can hopefully buy one in 15 years.
Don’t think this will hold a finger in reliability to an actual LX
The 2nd row lack of everything is a major deal breaker for a luxury suv like that
I'd contend that the lack of front seat massagers is an even bigger deal breaker. I don't know what the buyer demographics are for this thing, but I'd guess that it's double income no kids. Maybe they get used as family haulers, but if that were the customer base, I'd expect Lexus would have made it more kid friendly. Lexus listens to customers, unlike BMW. Also unlike BMW, Lexus respects the hardcore "Lexus or nothing" early adopter. BMW has almost completely abandoned the owners who bought them in the '70's when they were a boutique brand for enthusiasts. I'm one of those BMW guys, and apart from the M2 CS, (which is basically unobtainium) they've got nothing that even remotely interests me.
The inability to move the 2nd row says it all.
@@dougrobinson8602 doug .there are other trim levels with 7 seats you know that right
@@dougrobinson8602 I'd bet 75%+ of buyers have kids but who knows besides Lexus.
Agreed on BMW they never figured out how to bring driver involvement and steering feel back after moving to the F series circa 2011
This specific spec is just a luxury one. The normal lx will obviously be the bulk of the sales, just like few people buy gls Maybach. It's very rare to spec a 4 Seater suv. I would. I don't ever intend to have kids and 4 people is the most I drive with. But it's not a normal spec and can hurt resale value.
Please let this stage of super glueing a tablet onto the dash come to an end. It feels like so little thought was put on it.
I love the older designs where it was built into the dash. It felt more like a special space where someone actually thought about placement/shape
This!!!$
Thank you sir. It's embarrassing these 100k+ cars have a cheap tablet sticking out like a sore thumb dead centre. They will also age like shit in a couple years.
This 1,000%
As a salesperson for the Lexus brand, reliability has been the strongest selling point in my career. But recently, with the introduction of the NX and LX, I’ve had to foreshadow my clients experience with, “you are buying a brand new, fully redesigned vehicle, therefore, you are agreeing to be a test subject for the next several months while Lexus works out all the kinks found from real world testing. You will probably encounter an issue or some idiosyncrasies within the first year of ownership, but we are here to help you because we want you to have the best ownership experience possible.” Instilling patience in my guests has been the best method to maintain loyalty to the Lexus brand.
Needs more Grille. I can still see a Car there.
Can't BBQ pedestrians on a sub-par grille
Look, it’s a car attached to a grille. Make way.
They must have considered having a grill that swept back to the front doors, but they tempered their desires.
Hank Hill is sweating seeing that much grille in one place
A propane conversion would be sweet, though!
You should have a 1,000 likes ...
Love the grill
Love the grill
I'm just in LOVE with how deep you guys go into analyzing these vehicles.
Drove an LX600 (F-sport) today with the consideration of purchasing, which landed me here. Once again, another stellar (and spot-on) analysis of this vehicle gentlemen, well done. I made the comment to the salesman the secondary screen appeared to be an after thought. Overall though, I really enjoyed the ride quality of it. In a bizarre way, I felt it was a splendid combination of my LC500 and my 10 year old 200 Series Land Cruiser that this would be replacing. I'm a long time Toyota/Lexus fan, reliability and resale ranks very high in my book for this type of vehicle. It will be an investment, but if history repeats itself, buying a Toyota/Lexus is far less risky. Thanks again for the input/review.
A lot of those 10 speed issues are the same issues the toyota 8 speed had when it launched. It took at least 2 years to get it fixed and at least Toyota "secretly" offered a transmission ecu reflash.
I remember that. Our highlander had terrible shifting issues with the 8 speed. Had to track down the service bulletin myself to get them to reflash and fix the problem. Even then the dealership asked me how I knew this fix existed and I shouldn’t have had access to this information…
@@ajammu38 the dealership should have ask himself the question of why didn’t we know about the fix
Great review, interesting the point made a few times about some brands making disposable vehicles. A video comparing build quality, price and buyer would be interesting. If you sit in a 2010 Lexus LX everything is tight and more importantly functions as intended even at 200,000 miles and several owners. A 2010 Escalade not only feels really cheap with creaks, rattles etc, but will most certainly be falling apart at 200,000 miles. I feel the same about a 2022 Escalade, although the Lexus is more modest the Escalade will feel dated/cheap in 2032. .
I agree. I drove a 2018 Tahoe last year ( 3 yrs old at that point) with 50K miles and I already started to hear rattles/creaks from the interior. Not a lot, but enough to be dissapointed
I have 120k on my 2011 lx. Test drove several cars last week and once I got back in my LX to drive home I appreciated it so much more. Everything feels so solid, as you said no rattles no squeaks. Just a Japanese tank that starts everytime.
Completely agree we have a 11 lx570 with 118k miles and drives like it did when new. Have rented plenty of American 3 row SUVs when we do road trips and all of them have rattles with 20 to 30k miles. When we are ready for the next one would be a straight drive to the lexus dealer for a new unit.
The lx 600 is higher quality than anything else in its class, but from a luxury car standpoint it’s absolutely garbage. The previous lx570 was much nicer.
On the other hand anything you put in the door pockets rattle on this when new because it's all plastic, in my €25k Skoda they're lined with fabric to stop stuff from rattling around. Lexus might still make (more) reliable (than average) vehicles, but they're lagging way behind in perceived quality and everyday usability especially when compared to their German rivals at the same price point.
Another top quality video. We should all be thankful that mark and Jack put the time and effort that they do into making this type of content.
Some guys in the Middle East are definitely already working on a V8 swap for this thing.
A v8 would have been better for sure..
@@virgilpalmer2427 v6 is faster than the v8 and better in every way lol
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 More cylinders is always better, people who buy these give 0 F's about fuel economy.
True
@@dragospahontu no mate. V6 is fast as a 6.4 v8 so more displacement is not better. Be real.
How do you build a 130,000$ luxury vehicle and put a low end stereo in it? Watching this channel, it becomes clear that consumers don't seem to care about the audio experience anymore. As someone who does care, I am glad that you guys take the time to mention audio in your reviews.
I wish the US would receive the more simplistic Land Cruiser. I would love one of those especially with a diesel, and I wouldn’t feel bad about throwing a surf board on the roof.
They didn't sell enough, and the price was getting too close to the Lexus. I think it made sense to just sell the Lexus variant. A base trim model is pretty close to the late Land Cruiser.
Yeah thats what everyone american is saying, but even if Toyota did release it, nobody would buy them. Nobody is going to be paying $65-70k for a SUV with cloth seats and am/fm radio even if it does have a v8 diesel.
Also there was a problem of dealer experience for someone dishing out 80k for a SUV. The Land Cruiser was kind of an oddball in the US. The LX is just better suited for the market.
It's time they made a retro Land Cruiser, like the old Jeep styled Cruisers, to compete with the Bronco.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 they kinda did, but too soon with the FJ Cruiser lol. They could just import the 71 Series to the US that comes with the 4.0 V6. But I guess they dont want to hurt the 4Runner sales.
I was very impressed with it, but hearing now that it is $130,000, I’m at the very least disappointed with it
Yes, it’s $130,000 for this Ultra Luxury package, but like they said, you can get a lower trim package LX 600 starting at $88,000.. So it’s just how many bells and whistles you want to option.
It's always reliability. That's the only reason people go with an lx. The car has always been behind everywhere else.
Lexus fan boys dismiss everything wrong with this truck because it's reliable. Imo Lexus rests on it's laurels way too much knowing they don't have to compete on a German level because of that.
And what’s wrong with reliability being the focal point of this car. There’s a reason these thrive in Australia and Middle East because there’s a market that prioritizes reliability over gimmicky features. It’s nowhere close to Germans in tech, but excels in long term ownership and owners satisfaction, and there’s a big demand for that here in the Middle East you can’t have both.
@@tygervoods8358 it’s $130k tho
@@tygervoods8358 nothing wrong at all. My main issue is that Lexus is lazy. Look at the aging RX. I mean they haven't even removed that stupid trackpad yet. I test drove the RX before I bought my X5. I really wanted to like it. I couldn't believe how slow, aged and poorly it handled compared to the X5. No plug in hybrid option either.
@@pnourani dont talk before checking .this trim is focused on the rear and other trim levels get power seats cooling seats and more in front so every complain they made is not a complain thats how this trim level is postioned
I’d still buy one, albeit not the ultra luxury version.
I’d rather buy a house for that price
@@mikezerker6925 there isn’t a house within 500 miles of me- in TEXAS- that I’d want to live in for less than 3x the price of the most expensive Lexus.
@@aggiewoodie that's a shame, my 3 br 2.5 bath house cost me $250k when I bought in 2015 in a good neighborhood. So this SUV is literally 1/2 what I paid for my house!
@@mikezerker6925 yeah made out of cardboard
I bought one and absolutely love it. To each there own. Im very happy with mine.
Always great and thoughtful reviews:)! For now I’ll keep my 2019 LX. Oh!…the vehicle I own goes off road twice a week.
I don’t think people give enough consideration to the audio testing done by this channel. Since so much time in my car is listening to music as I drive real testing of how that will sound is important to me. Thanks Mark and Jack for doing this when other channels treat sound quality in such a cursory manner.
Unbelievably objective, fair and honest review ... excellent job
6:40 love the engineer test notes haha.
This is why I respect this channel because your criticism is straightforward and honest as it can be and that's all you can hope for for channel that reviews cars
At 3:00, Jack is hittin the 🙏 with his feet. #Blessed
Thank you for this comment
I just thought that was how you do Heel-Toe in an offroader
Everyone lost their minds on how amazing the tundra/sequoia/LX redesign was, but tbh when I saw this I saw rushed and half assed in all 3 vehicles. So many things were afterthought or last minute changes, I can almost guarantee we have an emergency refresh on at least the two SUVs for 2023, but we could see one for the tundra too
I saw this car in Southcoast plaza in Irvine and it is just so stately and impressive. You have to see it in person. I sat in one and it made my GLS feel like a poorly built condo
@@jackz4149 MB's are trash, but I'm more concerned about how it stacks up against the american body on frame ones than the unibody european ones anyways
Yeah, they half-assed them despite having 14 years to design them.
@@Seriously140 It's honestly pathetic
The land cruiser has lockers front, center and rear. Just Lexus said no to them so it isn't in the states. You CAN however order them and they fit right in since they are factory components. This is the same thing that happened with the prior gen, it had more goodies in japan but they wouldn't send the best version to the states.
You guys are honest and awesome. Great content.
The US Army has some T72s a few states away. Would love to see you guys do a tongue in cheek review of one
It’s not for everyone. We are welcoming a new lx600 to the family at the end of this month at the price of $111k. We are keeping our old 2013 lx570 which has had zero issues. We have also owned a 2001 lx470 which was traded towards the 2013, also had zero issues. Lexus has always felt dated in terms of technology, but we don’t mind it. Is it overpriced? Yes, but most cars are nowadays. We keep our vehicles long term, and we don’t care about fancy bells and whistles. Hopefully the new lx will be as reliable as the others have been. Resale value is also nice, but that doesn’t matter to us since we keep ours for the long haul.
I hope it gives you many years of service tackling drive-thru's and allows you to speak to many managers!
Mark was definitely a takumi samurai in one of his past lives.
Man you are everywhere.
@@matthewp9015 where else have you seen me?
@@dragospahontu on almost every car channel I watch, from Harry’s Garage to CarWow to Scotty Kilmer… I can’t remember which ones exactly. Usually when a Toyota is being reviewed.
Love the notorious big reference, he had a lexus lx45-- the earliest predecessor to the lx600
It's unbelievable that in this day and age, with that much real estate available inside, that the interior design and utility are so disjointed and lack luster. No design language on the inside, and a loud, shouting one outside
Agree about the interior, but I kinda feel like without that grill, there's not much of a language outside either.
The top of the center stack does actually look like an afterthought, there is better integration in 25k cars
Everyone hated the old dual display in the QX80 and Toyota goes and copies it.
Also, you guys did a swell job with this one. I feel like the production value and discussion are 120 percent of the usual premium offering. You took the time.
I was certain the thumbnail was photoshopped… I’ve never been more disappointed to be wrong
Needs a bigger grille
I agree, it needs the yuri special
Can we get a video about the Volvo’s issues?
well, its a volvo, that explains it all... also he will have the same issues with BMW... go Japanese, or go back to the dealer for repairs lol
@Harmon1ca In savagegeese's stream Wednesday night Mark noted that the powertrain was a major issue. An I4/turbo/supercharger/electric hybrid pushing a heavy SUV is a recipe for trouble. Even Toyota might have a hard time making an engine like that reliable!
@@rhythm_is_life don’t forget about the inexcusable roof leak he discussed and various other issues. Volvo is not known for their reliability. Doesn’t matter, just don’t buy a used Volvo XC90 recently traded into Motor Works.
@@nalong55 You can't just say Japanese=reliable...Subaru still exists (and technically Mitsubishi too).
@@MegaNardman Correct, I am meaning more so Honda/Toyota, and to a lesser extent, Nissan. Mitsubishi and Subaru are OK but I would be weary once they tick past 100k miles, Mits has issues with quality, which Subaru has the dreaded flat 4 engine design, which ALWAYS fails prematurely.
The new Turbos in the Tundra are imploding. It’s all over the Interwebs.
Whose designing and engineering them, GM? They need to get their shit together.
I have a theory that the TTV6 was Plan B. Plan A was a combined Otto / Atkins cycle motor that Toyota was working on for the
Tundra in 2015. My guess is that the motor failed reliability testing.
No way, that's impossible. Anecdotal evidence states that all Toyota's will run forever.
I am trading in my 17 4Runner for this in premium trim next week. Buying it because it is build in Japan in the same factory as the LC. It will outlast all its competitors by decades. The grill is polarizing but actually works and blends well when you see the car in flesh.
Toyota quality running downhill fast.
Good luck with those turbos.
@@RUclipsuser1aa thanks tips
@@RUclipsuser1aa
Just take a look at all of the recent Toyota/Lexus voluntary recalls for the new NX & Tundra. OUCH!
a twin turbo v6 with dual direct and port injection last decades? sure... after you replace the turbos, timing chain and a few other critical parts you'll be $5-8k into it, excluding any trans work which is also a guarantee at the exaggerated time frame you're quoting here. you're singing the same tune as if this is a dinosaur port injected v8 on a 6 speed with a fraction of the moving parts.
@@sly9263 let’s compare notes in 2042
It’s a tank, they know they are only going to sell 5k of them a year, it’s just to keep the 200 series customers with Toyota/lexus. They got me with it. Love mine.
Oh damn, I must have missed what happened with the Volvo.
Great review Mark
Once you drive a BMW it's hard to go to another brand.
@@dragospahontu Depends on the BMW. A 218i Active Tourer will not capture anyones heart, I presume.
@@leviathan5207 it's ok, but nothing special.
@@jeffc1347 I think they're some of the best daily drivers, they're so intuitive for humans.
Reliability is your friend and in this case, it wasn’t.
No locking diffs or disconnecting sway bars? What if I want to drive over a curb out of the Arby's parking lot.
You should ever have been near arbys
In essence, Lexus has put in an updated Citroen hydraulic suspension in it. The DS line of Citroen, to this day, is one of the finest suspension systems ever made.
Great review guys. Again, you hit it out of the park!
Lexus and Citroen should not be mentioned in same sentence.
@@alexnutcasio936 i see so much hate in the comment section .its wrong .1.this trim level is for rear seat passengers so its focused on the rear lol so why comparing a 4 seater ultra luxury trim to a 7 seater models you tell me is it right lol.2.interior is extremely luxurious and as everything its rivals have in tech and luxury options .overall lx is better than the americans and if the comment section is correct every time wow . Other trim levels have massage seats front and back cooling seats and more so people need to check before putting comments
Nah you wanna be funny but we all know this will be worth 80k in 15 years.. Chile
@@LafemmebearMusic I’ll give you $60 k in 15 years with low mileage.
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 puting. That does not compute.
We have had to already replace turbos on a Tundra of course under warranty.
Oh thats not good
Toyota pets will call you a liar now
Replace turbos or the waste gate?
Sorry man.
Our sienna is poorly built. No turbos thankfully.
Toyota has failed.
@@dr.emilschaffhausen4683 a failed wastegate will kill the turbo...
I saw a tundra with 8,000km where the timing chain snapped. Yea I’d wait a few years before I’d buy a truck with this engine lol.
That Twin turbo V6 got a rough start in the Tundra and Sequoia. Hope it fares better in the LX.
Great videos guys. I don’t get any hate from you two just very honest and a great understanding of this vehicle.
I agree on the point that this type of vehicle has reached its max potential. It’s still a excellent product for body on frame. Great engine and interior build quality that lags behind no one. I love the body yet modern design of this vehicle. The rear end design is very good
I'm still annoyed at why the Sequoia has better features on paper and bang for your buck than this. Its almost like they didn't want this to do better. No disconnecting sway bars, no panoramic sunroof, no locking diffs (although MTS is better IMO). No hybrid. The sequoia makes 100ftlbs more in torque given that its a hybrid.
I was hoping the LX would kick it up. The sequoia's torque numbers alone make it a crazy truck in its own right.
I hope they do more with the LX. I can't believe I'm already wanting for an update.
5 years later i still see your comments on toyota product reviews
@@d1sturb3d119 No argument from me here the Sequoia TRD pro definitely looks like a Better buy because it seems just as capable without the hefty price tag and the sequoia has all the new tech in the interior is very good
@@emeraldages They say consistency is key maybe I should start my own RUclips channel
Mark has an X7, but no review of it on the channel? Love to get Mark and Jack's take on the 3-row BMW.
The biggest flaw in the 2022 LX is that it will be a very low distribution model unlike the 80, 100, and 200 series Land Cruisers and LXs. Toyota might sell a couple thousand a year. Instead of being a vibrant parts market, after a few years parts will be impossible to find.
Mechanical stuff is common. Toyota will probably run with this same platform for a long time. If you cannot buy a new grill, that would be a plus for the rest of us. The family truckster for 2022, it’s so comically proportioned that they should have Chevy Chase doing the first commercials.
Land cruiser still exists just not in NA
This drivetrain is on the new Land Cruiser, Tundra, and Sequoia. Those last two are volume sellers, so there shouldn’t be any issues with parts being “…impossible to find”.
We have a 2005 LX 470 with 240k miles and I love this thing with a blacked out grill and the 18 inch wheels. It is basically the most capable longest lasting luxury SUV available.
Every one I’ve seen is around 110k.
Haven’t seen a single one under 100k.
Coming from a last gen Escalade. This thing feels so much nicer in terms of build quality.
Basically, this is completely pointless as vehicles go. Inefficient, cramped, weird infotainment screens, questionable front grille, very expensive, maybe (MAYBE) decent off road, where no one will take it. I WANT ONE! I will toss some 33’s on there, and make this beast the luxury overlander it’s meant to be.
My family has been with Lexus for 20 plus years. But this LX 600? Sorry Lexus. You could've done better with design based on its own pricing. I would buy 2 GX460 for this price.
Really good, fair review. I share a lot of the same concerns. I have the 2016 model, and it's tough as nails, yet supremely luxurious. The European options aren't even close when it comes to durability and resale value. I wished they would have done more to update the LX600 (panoramic sunroof, power rear sunshades, fully adjustable rear seats), and I don't see any value in upgrading my current model with this one. Maybe the mid-cycle refresh will improve things some.
Agreed! It's new but it doesn't have any interesting features to set it apart from the LX570 and i'd still prefer V8 over TTV6.
How many miles does your 570 have ?
@@chriswiththecrocs 125k, and its just getting broken in
@@kirkericson2722 just scratching the surface of that 5.7 liter V8 how many miles you recon you can reach without replacing any major components
@@chriswiththecrocs I'd say 250k, but hard to say, as most of my miles are actually highway miles.
The Straight Pipes review said the audio system slaps harder than Will Smith, so it's interesting to see your opinion on it (may have been a different version?).
What I love about you guys is that you're not afraid to call out when a company is resting on its laurels...which this vehicle seems to be. Lexus knows they'll sell a million of them anyway, so why do better? Mind you, that's the same attitude the Americans automakers had in the 60's and 70's, and look how that worked out for them.
If its the upper end Levinson its the same. I think the difference in opinions on the audio testing side is the objective testing that confirms the audible shortcomings.
I’m not really surprised though. Lexus and Toyota have always been companies that rest on their laurels a lot and are hesitant to adopt new technology and improve. At least they’re reliable though
@@kevinyeh8891 I don't mind them being slow to adopt new tech; I drive an 08 Fiesta and the classic triple-knob HVAC interface in it is far superior to a touchscreen. It's just Lexus not getting the basics at the price point right; average stereo, lack of front massage, annoying infotainment. All that stuff is rectified in cars half the price.
But you're right, it should get you half a million miles.
@@deanchur I'd argue the infotainment is a little improved over Remote Touch. Lack of front massage-is that really necessary? Who sits in their car to get a massage from it? I can understand using it for the rear seats, but for the front? Seriously? Average stereo-well, I think that Mark Levinson is a pretty good stereo manufacturer, maybe not as good as others though
@@kevinyeh8891 I don't care about them either (ventilated seats are welcome though, especially in Australian summers), but I'm not the target audience for a vehicle like this.
When you design a vehicle for a 25 year lifespan, you typically leave some of the luxury features out. How long a does Range Over or Jeep last in comparison to this vehicle? I still see plenty of +20 years old Toyota SUVs on the roads but not so many of the competition.
Actually this has every tech options as its rivals and more luxurious not fake luxury like its american rivals who are fake
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 define fake luxury
@@yourmommashouse cheap leather and fake wood thats Shiny at first looks good but later it does not and to make it more expensive put some tech and boom here is fake luxury escalade .people online love to defend them because it looks so good on online but real like they suck. Simple just as that
Any car if maintained will go 25 years easily. The maintenance and part costs of a Lexus as it gets old just isn’t worth it for all of the compromises they make compared to the competition
@@Bacon12954 escalade navigator and grand wagooner are no match for this lol.they are fake luxury suvs with tech .so lx is better simple as that . I wont argue with you .lx is better than them just to remind you again . without quality parts a vehicle wont last 25 years no matter how you maintain lol
Anybody noticed the vehicle temp gauge is different almost every time the shot is at the cluster while they are driving?
I'd rather get an Armada- has a great V8, almost as nice of an interior, made in Japan, no ridiculous grill, can actually hold a bottle in the door card, and much less $$$$.
Hypothetically, you could also just get the Infiniti QX80 if you want direct competition
No offense but the Armada I drove felt like garbage compared to the Lexus products I've been in, maybe that's just me though
Just get an x7 like Mark did. When you drive the new X5 vs RX and X7 vs GX/LX it's amazing how much better in every way the BMWs are. Except of course that Lexus reliability.
A lot of people put too much stock in Lexus' build quality as the primary driving factor for why their vehicles are so reliable. This is only partly true. They use old tech/drivetrains for 10-15 years longer than the competition and that's why they're so reliable. Their fit and finish is absolutely top notch, however when they come out with a new model every 15-20 years they will absolutely have the same growing pains as any other manufacturer and we're seeing it already with the Tundra. Experienced car buyers know not to buy a new vehicle on it's year of release- it doesn't matter who made it.
I want to gouge out my eyes... I can't unsee this..
Somehow I think these new Toyota trucks just seem underdone. They don’t give off the air that they are the bulletproof machines they used to be. My neighbor has a 10 year old Land Cruiser with the 5.7 liter V8 and I wouldn’t hesitate to get one of those over this. That seems like a forever vehicle. Time will tell on this and the new Tundra.
This is by far my favorite auto review channel, thanks guys great work. i would love to see in the future motorcycle in-depth reviews and 2nd hand cars etc with going into what normally wears or breaks how to fix which model years are worth the money or to avoided.
I saw on your live Q and A that you were short some cash, maybe you could start buying used cars and doing them up to sell while documenting the journey could be fun for you and it would be interesting to watch. then you could have content for expensive cars and affordable cars. whatever happens good luck and thanks for everything you've done so far.
A savagegeese take on hoovies’ kind of content would be super informative and entertaining but they are already super burdened doing the work for the channel so I couldn’t see them doing other stuff for now
Good conversation you all had about this vehicle. It was like you gentleman wanted to protect this vehicles points and mostly it's good points.
You guys are honest and awesome.
I don’t know why they give these to reviewers with the executive package with the goody rear seats. I guarantee less than 10% of these will ship with that. It doesn’t even have a 3rd row. Good review!
Good point .why do they test a trim level that will be sold in low numbers and knowing everything is in the back lol and then complain about it
@@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961 They have to review what's made available to them. Automaker review fleets are usually high-trim models like this, because they want reviewers to review the fancy features, like that trick suspension.
@@markmiller3279 then they should compare this to other 4 seater suvs not against 3 row models lol .overall lx has everything its rivals and more .so its unfair to complain while knowing all options they are are saying is available in the front but in other trim levels i mean the luxury trim with the 7 seater has every fancy option and suspension as well.overall this is better than the americans. because of this video see the haters that exist lol because they think all models dont have front luxury options .😠 or lack options
Love 600 body shape 😍
That dash design would be absolutely eviscerated in a $35K Ford, Kia, or GM. That's what you get in a $130K Lexus? Sheesh.
Longevity and reliability!
Exactly
That's super executive package with the lie flat backseat is really not designed for the North American audience. It's an Asian market thing and I guarantee you they don't care about the flunky who has to sit behind the driver. Frankly I'm surprised they've been using this version to show off here.
There are other trim levels available and overall better than americans by a mile .i dont care what haters as to say.maybach gls also comes with 4 and 5 seater lay out only so there is market its just not for everyone
Its suspension sounds like old Citroen Systems
But can it lift it's own wheel to change a tire without a jack? Citroen was on another planet back then.
Enjoyed the video, but more importantly Patagonia is having a winter clearance sale right now. Just figured I'd give you a heads up.
I’ll hold on to my 2014 LX570
The turbo engine is going to kill long term reliability. Even engine oil goes through higher stress due to LSPI.
I know there are a ton of toyota fan boys on the internet but holy shit. 130k for this thing? The x7, and GLS are easily way better and around the same price. They totally missed the spot with that pricing. and before “ItS a LExuS, ITS reliABlE” You can only use that for so long. Tons of car companies are reliable nowadays. People need to get out of the 90s and early 00s.
This is just more durable than the BMW or Mercedes. This has a truck frame. Those are unibody crossovers basically. So the Lexus has its own strengths and weaknesses, and the European options have their own strengths and weaknesses. If it were my money, I’d go X7- but that’s cause I like the look, and my current BMW has been good, so I like the brand. If I needed something tough to beat on, I’d go Lexus.
@@coejbee The durable is yet to be proved with the new drive train. While i get your point i also disagree. If you are a much wealthier individual, you dont buy a lexus to beat on. This is a vehicle for a rich partner wife/husband who stays at home and does routine grocery runs and goes to workout with a personal trainer 3 times a week. In the north American market this is not getting used for its durability. So what does that leave it with? An engine thats yet to be proven, less power than most rivals, a disjointed infotainment set up. I guess im just tired of lexus and toyota always getting a pass for lackluster models and products because “reliability”. There is so much more to vehicles, and like the savagegeese guys said, my issues tend to dissipate the less you pay for this car. But Even 100k looks to be way to much considering what else you can get.
Love the Notorious BIG call out/ Easter egg
i cant afford any of the vehicles that you mentioned lol but if i had to choose it would be LEXUS hands down. from the resale value to the "reliability" since this has yet to be really proven. I would much rather take a lexus over a bmw/jeep/mercedes any day. Sad they dont offer a v8 or diesel option. but nothing we can do about that
The grill is horrible. Looks like an air vent for a mall.
The 130 grand is out of control. Why would you buy one ?
The doors not opening 90 degrees is just telling me they dont know what they are doing.
I am really curious how this actually compares to a Range Rover. I know you said in your review that people who buy Range Rovers really only care about prestige and didn't dwell on them beyond that, but Range Rovers are still very capable offroad vehicles despite the bling. I'd argue that a Range Rover might be the LX600's closest competitor if the Grand Wagoneer didn't exist.
Lex reliability all day
You can drive a range rover out, but will you be able to drive it back ;)
lx still has a solid rear axle .
The lx is better built and more reliable but the Range Rover is much much nicer
@@RealWestCideroh look a boomer stuck with range rover stereotypes from early 2000s.
Vehicles with a GVWR over 6000 depreciate with a better tax write-off, so business people want a luxury suv more than a luxury sedan.
This is meant for the rich guys living in Russia and Middle East so it is less tailored to American family needs, hence you see a lot of conflicting or less cohesive design. It is very hard to make a family 7 seater SUV while still want to retain its hardcore offroader nature while throwing a bunch of luxury features on it. It is hard to please everyone.
Why does the front end of this thing remind me of Cylons from the original Battlestar Galactica?
Thank you for that review... 👌
Few years ago I test drove LX560. I was surprised how small it was inside. My wife 5ft 2in and while in the rear seat for like 10 minutes she felt it was too small of space even for her. I am thinking this might be the same.
Lexus has managed to slip in the rot that is the new Tundra into this. As a 07 Crewmax owner I was looking forward to the new Tundra. It's a massive disappointment. So they have now ruined this and will be ruining the 4Runner and Tacoma. I fear they will be ruining the GX460 as well. Toyota is losing me and others because of their new direction. That new engine will not last like the 5.7.
The hybrid Tundra is good, but... The engine is a huge ????
Since when does Mark own an x7? Is there a video coming soon on it?
He teased on RUclips that he went back to BMW and he'll make a video why. I don't blame him. They've been putting out amazing SUVs recently.
This review, and one other I’ve watched kinda reveals that this isn’t a good Luxury suv. Like the capability of what it could do off-road seems undeniable, but as a luxury car it seems poo poo. Looks pretty bad, inside is kinda lame, luxuries are lame. It always seems to be Lexus that either has fantastic vehicles, or weird half baked ones that despite it being Lexus, didn’t think it all thru. 🤷🏾♂️ at least it’ll last.
This review is simple .they took a 4 seater model which is all about rear seat comfort and complained about not having front massage seats or few while knowing other trim levels have everything they complained about and more also knowing this not the model most people buy then what happens people online like land cruiser fans and american fan boys come use this video and talking bullshit .i dont blame them for testing this trim level but at least compare this to actual 4 seater models not 3 row rivals .so overall lx is better than the americans simple as that. This is a fantastic vehicle its just everyone who test this is taking niche model or trim and complaining
Agreed. When you consider that Lexus had nearly 15 years to nail this one, it all becomes even more disappointing. It's painfully obvious that Lexus didn't try too much to elevate the LX to the level of the LS and LC. Even the upcoming Sequoia has a more modern interior.
@@mark_u birds fell from the sky when i saw your comment . You are wrong lx is better than the americans just people need to get the lower luxury trim and it has everything that they complain in front and back seats so mark dont complain. Also as 7 seats. This is trim is a niche trim level like mercedes have the mercedes maybach gls .i mean haters comments dont mean anything but here is the truth .wow rainbow just came as i said you are wrong .
is it crazy to say i rather have a good spec 2023 Toyota Sequoia than this? the lx600 seems very compromised in the interior.
2:15 Biggie album on the radio👍🏾
You can tell this vehicle was led by the Japanese side of Toyota. Because that side of their company is way off on tech cohesiveness. They took the American Toyota updated ui slapped it on the truck and everything else is previous gen. Your best Toyota SUV is probably going to be the Seq. I like Lexus for most things right up until you get to the tech part and then it's gets weird fast every single time.
I don't know why, but the Japanese side of Toyota/Lexus loves their outdated UI and blocky, almost skeumorphic interfaces. I have an IS350 and some of the menu options are painful to navigate because they're behind buttons situated in locations that don't make sense, and you have to use this Lexus mouse to select them.
Share that X7 update and why you switched?
agreed
He said on a livestream Q&A, the Volvo had a shit drivetrain for a heavy vehicle. Brakes warped easily, the sunroof leaked and Volvo dealer wouldn’t fix it. Overall it’s a shit car.
They need a grill option, they need to bring back the split tailgate, and they need to offer an off-road package that has a better angle of approach and departure.
Agree, and lockers!
16MPG on a 21 Land Cruiser Heritage with the buttery smooth perfect V8. I am so glad we kept it over buying this trash. This is why you will see older 200 series LC's continue to appreciate in price.
I picked up my LX second hand and it's not new, but yes that V8 is perfect. I get 20.5 MPG highway which stunned me at first. Well cared for engine is my guess, very well broken in.
I love the rumble it makes down low, it literally chugs.
That LX gets 1 more MPG than my ls430
Your LS430 only gets 16??? I’ve been getting 21-24 in my GS430…
it's a full size body on frame suv and it's an improvement over the last generation in terms of mpg
If you're only getting 16mpg something is very wrong with your LS430
@@dawnpoint my average is 16 mpg. I have a bad cat and i only drive stop & go suburb traffic
I'm getting 21-23 mph, 420-440 miles to the tank and paying $100-$110 to fill her ass up.
Toyota will slowly improve the LX over the years. I would not buy this car in 2022, but probably in 2024.
yep, exactly... but I doubt they will fix the 2 screen travesty that is the center stack in a mere 4 years.
Thanks for calling out Toyota on (at this price point) some absolutely unforgivable issues
I absolutely agree with you on the interior tech and the lack of massaging seats. For those reasons and a few more I won’t be buying one.