DAYSTAR, Joni Lamb, "Under Cover," Is Your Leader the "Voice of God?" ep. 8

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  • Опубликовано: 6 янв 2025

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  • @JonathanSuzyLamb
    @JonathanSuzyLamb Месяц назад +207

    Hii I am watching! Tears! Such a perfect video! Thank you for your kind encouragement to Jonathan and me. - Suzy

    • @tinydancer653
      @tinydancer653 Месяц назад +34

      We love you Suzy and Jonathan! Thank you for standing strong for God's Word! I pray that the Lord wraps you in the protection of Psalm 91. I decree Isaiah 54:17 over Suzy and Jonathan Lamb: No Weapon formed against you shall prosper and every tongue that rises up against you, the Lord will condemn.

    • @kingdomawakeningpodcast
      @kingdomawakeningpodcast Месяц назад +30

      So sorry for what yall have been going through @lamb.podcast

    • @karenikeler8424
      @karenikeler8424 Месяц назад +12

    • @hephzibahmakhetha4371
      @hephzibahmakhetha4371 Месяц назад +31

      We love you and are praying for you. This is sickening. Much love, South Africa 🇿🇦

    • @rose_blueBV
      @rose_blueBV Месяц назад +29

      Suzy & Jonathan, be strong, God got this, you’ll see 🙏❤️

  • @raybrensike42
    @raybrensike42 Месяц назад +64

    Jonathan and Suzy are not having the Kool-Aid. Good for them.

  • @JonathanSuzyLamb
    @JonathanSuzyLamb Месяц назад +80

    As I keep watching, my heart is healing. Thank you for breaking it down like this- truth brings healing

    • @lovekingdom5581
      @lovekingdom5581 Месяц назад +4

      It's time to ascend to the Throne room. It's time to ascend.🕊

    • @MinorProphetsPodcast
      @MinorProphetsPodcast  Месяц назад +29

      I am so sorry that you are going through something so painful. I pray that you have a peaceful and joyful Thanksgiving and that Jesus will bring restoration to your family and healing to you.

    • @nicolebenson4517
      @nicolebenson4517 Месяц назад +12

      Praying for you Jonathan and Suzi. ❤That was very difficult to listen we to, that must have been so hard for you to go through. Stay strong 🙏🏻

    • @theLamb-m3s
      @theLamb-m3s Месяц назад

      I didnt believe you until many facts came out. If you see my comments on you pre Roys, just know if i see them i will correct it.❤
      Been studying Cluster B personality disorders for a few yrs, ive seen same or similar behaviors. Flying Monkeys are deployed to surveille ppl, thats what insecure ppl do.😇

    • @chelaleroux5430
      @chelaleroux5430 Месяц назад +13

      Suzi, you demonstrated courage and personal conviction, guided by the Holy Spirit.
      You stood against evil, pride, and arrogance.
      You said NO to manipulation and demonic control.
      You are a courageous young woman.
      May God bless you and use you for His Glory.
      I am praying for you.
      Much love through Christ.

  • @CMarie_B
    @CMarie_B Месяц назад +89

    The snide, degrading remarks made by Joni & Jimmy made me so mad! Saying "you're gonna catch hell for this " (aka "you're gonna pay for this") and insinuating Jonathan and Suzy know nothing bcuz of their age. Also stating that Daystar made them a household name, that without Daystar nobody would know who they are, they had more self-control than me. Pure evil!

    • @maggyjones4749
      @maggyjones4749 Месяц назад +12

      This is the Jezebel spirit being played out, for all to see!

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Месяц назад +5

      Gaslighting the whole conversation, evil as evil can be. I am glad they are out of that place. Just like TBN, evildoers.

    • @glendagreen6724
      @glendagreen6724 Месяц назад +7

      @@PAMALAsCHARISJonathan and Suzy are better off to be separated from Joni/Daystar at this point in time. Authority is not to Lord it over anyone.

    • @littlehousepineywoods5352
      @littlehousepineywoods5352 Месяц назад +8

      ​@@PAMALAsCHARISare you genuinely unaware that "people knowing who you are" is not the most important thing? God knows who they are first of all. As well, integrity is more important than people knowing your name. In other words, it would be better to be the MOST obscure saint than to be "popular" and cover up SA. People have lost the fear of God and it shows.

    • @janetdrawhorn987
      @janetdrawhorn987 Месяц назад

      That works both ways.​@@PAMALAsCHARIS

  • @CarrieBrashears
    @CarrieBrashears Месяц назад +103

    Gaslighting and manipulation. This is so sick.

  • @agrant39
    @agrant39 Месяц назад +118

    Joni’s foul mouth reveals what’s in her heart😊

    • @luvopeter5913
      @luvopeter5913 Месяц назад +10

      To think that she's talking about balls to her biological son is disgusting. No normal christian mother would talk like that to her biological son. I'm disappointed in her.

    • @clarataylor2739
      @clarataylor2739 Месяц назад +9

      She says Doug is a Godly man a sex counselor and marriage when he couldnt save his own marriage. So did His exwife abandoned him and the kids. So your saying there was no adultry in the marriage .Its fishy That Marcus dies and Doug divorced his wife to marry Joni. Jimmy Evens has no right talking to Jonnathans wife like he did. And down grading Jonnathan as a husband to Jonnathan wife. Jonnathan and Suzy answer to God first. Joni and Doug should of waiting on marriage untill things was worked out with how Jonnathan and Suzy felt. And Joni filthy cusing out of her mouth and she has the nerve to condemn Jonnathan and Suzy. Jonnathan is a growing man he answers to God first then his wife not Joni and Jimmy Evens

    • @jonirennirt2391
      @jonirennirt2391 Месяц назад +13

      True. She kept telling them that their behavior revealed their heart and then cussing and lewd speech comes out of her mouth revealing her heart, She said several times she loved Susie but during the same conversation called Susie bad and evil!!! That's not love!!! And telling Jonathan you deal with her.

    • @kevinevans8892
      @kevinevans8892 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@jonirennirt2391also used the S-word

    • @jonirennirt2391
      @jonirennirt2391 Месяц назад +7

      jimmy says to J&S that Joni is the voice of God at Daystar (FALSE!!!!!) Then proceeds to curse and use lewd language!!!!?????

  • @leelar4284
    @leelar4284 Месяц назад +81

    God will also deal with Jimmy Evans..

    • @marialancaster2029
      @marialancaster2029 29 дней назад +3

      Hopefully. He's such a bully and thinks too highly of himself.

  • @jewelspraul7049
    @jewelspraul7049 Месяц назад +97

    Joni Lamb had counsel from a woman who knew Doug & his wife & Joni
    She advised Joni not to marry Doug in a letter to her & her children. She called Doug a wolf in sheeps clothing.
    I don't know Doug but when i heard Joni was getting married so soon after her husband's death & that he was very recently divorced I felt as a Christian she was making a huge mistake. It would have been wise to get counsel from many. Jimmy Evans was a co pastor of Gateway Church with Robert Morris who recently stepped down for having sex with a minor. He's a very poor judge of character & not someone I would take counsel from especially if my children were uncomfortable with the man I was going to bring into their family business & life. Very bad decision Joni & I'm a 70 year old widow & a Born Again Christian for 46 years! Shame on you Joni you're not behaving like a GODLY mother or a GODLY grandmother!

    • @cherelann63
      @cherelann63 Месяц назад +18

      Joni is the one who needs to examine her disobedience against The Lord in truth about doug.

    • @laurabryce1387
      @laurabryce1387 Месяц назад +8

      I absolutely agree with you.

    • @shawnaweiss5407
      @shawnaweiss5407 Месяц назад +6

      Agree😬☹️

    • @desertrose6516
      @desertrose6516 Месяц назад +10

      No shame. She probably was never a Godly mom or a Godly wife no matter how she showed up on tv

    • @SK-cm5mt
      @SK-cm5mt Месяц назад +5

      Joni and Marcus found a way go make money when they started Daystar. Doesn’t mean they believed in God !! Money is the root of Evil

  • @lavadamorrison4569
    @lavadamorrison4569 Месяц назад +106

    I listened to this whole thing and at some point Jimmy devalues Johnathan's role as a husband and head of his house. They vacillate between demanding submission to Joni because she is his boss and demanding honor as his mother. What she seems to forget is that when a man marries, he is to leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife. She no longer has the same authority over him as she did when he was a child. Joni at some point accuses Suzy of insinuating that Joni is Jezebel but somehow it is ok to tell Suzy that she is evil. I would have walked out of that meeting immediately and Joni would never see me or my children again until she repented and apologized. I don't believe that God wants us to put up with abuse. Joni and Jimmy are so off it is painful to listen to.

    • @IMOO1896
      @IMOO1896 Месяц назад +17

      I agree with your comment, but I’m impressed that Jonathan and Suzy stuck it out, and seemingly just wanted clarity and to be acknowledged that their conscience was what they were not willing to go against. Joni and Jimmy trying to intimidate and manipulate the young couple is evil, and surely the elders must repent.

    • @cp0pippip
      @cp0pippip Месяц назад +9

      Jonathan and Suzy also said on their own channel that God wanted them to get evidence over time and though they didn’t want a public exposure, it was God’s plan. (I’m paraphrasing so please check out what J&S said themselves). The recording was probably an effort to gather information (which is absolutely fine with me!) to expose the abuse.

    • @PenelopePeru
      @PenelopePeru Месяц назад +10

      How like a demon to point to others and accuse them of exactly what it is doing.

    • @theLamb-m3s
      @theLamb-m3s Месяц назад +6

      @@lavadamorrison4569 i think its called alienating one person from another person. In this case it wont work.😗

    • @graniteguy8410
      @graniteguy8410 Месяц назад +6

      Jimmy treating this couple like he knows God because he is OLD.... Done watching his fake marriage spill!!!

  • @chicagogal
    @chicagogal Месяц назад +122

    Joni and Jimmy should quit Daystar and host The View. They'd fit right in.

    • @BenedictaNazareth-ot5pb
      @BenedictaNazareth-ot5pb Месяц назад +7

      Hillarious!!!
      True, Joni and Jimmy will make great partners to host VIEW!!!

    • @cint4347
      @cint4347 Месяц назад +3

      🤣🤣😂😂🤣👍

    • @maryalexis7328
      @maryalexis7328 Месяц назад

      This is what happens when Christians get too big for their britches.

    • @TawanaDaniel
      @TawanaDaniel Месяц назад +1

      My questions are, why was all this recorded and made public? What was the heart behind such actions? And is God please with how his children are handling this situation? This is another blow to the kingdom of God and it’s embarrassing.

    • @4everSunsets
      @4everSunsets Месяц назад

      @@chicagogal No. The ladies of The view will not protect a Pedo

  • @jeffmiller5579
    @jeffmiller5579 Месяц назад +27

    Discernment is so needed in this hour!!

  • @maryri
    @maryri Месяц назад +27

    God bless and protect Jonathan Suzy and their children 🙏

  • @carmensantiago-kv7dg
    @carmensantiago-kv7dg Месяц назад +14

    Jimmy Evans is a high end bully....I would never allow anyone to speak to my son in that manner. Praying for Jonathan and Suzie.

  • @cynthiarm253
    @cynthiarm253 Месяц назад +52

    Joni is used to being 'covered' by her former husband, Marcus, now she is getting 'covered' by Jimmy Evans who is giving her the 'power' to lord it over her son. So bizarre.

    • @ABrighterlight
      @ABrighterlight Месяц назад

      @@cynthiarm253 what’s so bizarre in asking your employees to read the viewer’s good comments? It’s insubordination on the children’s parts. She is the head of Daystar and she also had a right to remarry. I can’t imagine my father looking for my approval. He signed prenup and their precious inheritance would be sound. They took Daystar down quite on their own.

    • @littlehousepineywoods5352
      @littlehousepineywoods5352 Месяц назад

      ​@@ABrighterlightshe can remarry, but God will NEVER give you another woman's husband. Joni is dead wrong and she knows it.

    • @ABrighterlight
      @ABrighterlight Месяц назад

      @ The optics are bad, but we do not know Doug’s marriage with previous wife. We don’t know their story. Timing seems sus but we do not know. It’s between them and God.

    • @zo3n1kos
      @zo3n1kos Месяц назад

      She isn't lording anything. She is his boss and head of the ministry. He.and his wife are.refusing to do their job.

    • @cynthiarm253
      @cynthiarm253 Месяц назад

      @@ABrighterlight Because there is no Biblical divorce justification

  • @cindysotelo1291
    @cindysotelo1291 Месяц назад +12

    This all about Doug !! She wants everyone to agree with her sin , and wants everyone believe that Doug is such a great guy and wants everyone to feel like she does . Well we don’t!!

  • @WriteByLisa
    @WriteByLisa 28 дней назад +3

    This is exceptional, you guys. Love these insights! Thank you so much!

  • @kathymangum6738
    @kathymangum6738 Месяц назад +4

    Thank you for balanced teaching that reflects the heart of Christ.

  • @RosanneLipari
    @RosanneLipari 28 дней назад +4

    We need pastors to come forth !!!!

  • @cynsim
    @cynsim Месяц назад +10

    I was blessed to escape an organization that began this "submission theology", where one is expected to obey blindly no matter what.

  • @michelleberntsson2314
    @michelleberntsson2314 Месяц назад +18

    God’s protection is provided to all believers because of the finished work of the cross . Only believe and receive Hallelujah🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @debihollenbeck4553
    @debihollenbeck4553 Месяц назад +36

    I've come to believe that when there is a "ministry" mom... it would be useful to have a Divorce ceremony between the son and mother before he marries his wife. Momma is WAY out of line when she accused the wife of having her husband by the !@#$.
    Wow! Such amazing disrespect for her Sons marriage, while demanding their respect for hers. GOOD LORD.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Месяц назад +3

      It hurts, very much. I hope he forgives but don’t go back to have a relationship with Joni. She is toxic, some people is better to love from afar.

  • @jonirennirt2391
    @jonirennirt2391 Месяц назад +19

    I think Jimmy and Joni emasculated Jonathan. And they sure weren't interested in letting them speak.

    • @denisemay7928
      @denisemay7928 Месяц назад +7

      @@jonirennirt2391 I agree, every time Jonathan or Suzy tried to speak Jimmy or Joni constantly interrupted and spoke over them.

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад +4

      @@denisemay7928 they should never had a meeting with jim evans, they should have had a lawyer present in a meeting only with Joni and the board and said nothing

    • @denisemay7928
      @denisemay7928 Месяц назад +2

      @@Peonia-Melbourne totally agree 👍

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Месяц назад +1

      @@Peonia-Melbournethat’s right. But they did right by recording the meeting, good move. Who would believe them? Your mother is abusing you? She is telling you to submit to her over God? Hummmm, interesting. Now we know how evil she is. And why she “forgave” her husband 7 years affair.

  • @BrendaPauli
    @BrendaPauli Месяц назад +4

    After listening to the entire recording, I was very saddened. Jimmy Evans sounded like an abusive husband who unjustly beats the snot out of his wife and then says “I love you” as he was wrongfully beating the snot out of Jonathan and Suzy with his manipulative, unwise and biased counsel…Joni did the same!! The pressure that came forth from Jimmy and Joni was horrendous to listen to! Trying to force someone to override their convictions or to change their opinions is just ungodly…not even God the father forces His Son Jesus Christ on anyone, each person chooses Jesus for themselves! If God gave the human race that much freedom to choose, shouldn’t Jonathan and Suzy be able to have their own opinions and convictions without the fear or threat of being fired!?! So sorry that this young couple has been so terribly hurt and pray they stay strong in the Lord!

  • @leelar4284
    @leelar4284 Месяц назад +38

    Doug's wife must be praising God for the wrong done to her by you Joni.

    • @LornaBates-n8d
      @LornaBates-n8d Месяц назад +22

      actually Doug's ex-wife is probably praising God that she don't have to be with him anymore. He and Joni deserve each other.

    • @michelleberntsson2314
      @michelleberntsson2314 Месяц назад +15

      Dougs ex wife is the greatest winner in this whole situation! She escaped 😂

    • @delfinaguzmanpedroza4872
      @delfinaguzmanpedroza4872 Месяц назад +7

      What comes around Joani goes around! What you sow you SHALL REAP

  • @tammyibarra7008
    @tammyibarra7008 Месяц назад +44

    I listen to the whole recording if you listen towards the end, Joni literally says it doesn’t have anything to do with God and I don’t hear anybody talking about that🧐

    • @LLG-j17s3k
      @LLG-j17s3k Месяц назад +2

      They are on other posts

    • @sandydunes6998
      @sandydunes6998 18 дней назад +1

      They probably can’t stomach listening to the whole thing!!😂

  • @nicolebenson4517
    @nicolebenson4517 Месяц назад +16

    Classic narcissism! Joni and Jimmy will say anything to get their way.

  • @pamkelly3130
    @pamkelly3130 Месяц назад +31

    What joni has done to her granddaughter is so wrong on so many levels . You shoukd not have the title noni

  • @ronharris1698
    @ronharris1698 Месяц назад +40

    When others dig up the tares, they destroy the wheat in your life. Others must not deal with the things that only you and God must deal with. I have spent most of the last 50 years ministering to Christians wounded by people who were in authority over their life. From experience, if your pastor says, "It is my way or the highway". Spare you self from the grief and take the highway. It is freedom. "My sheep hear My voice".

  • @Junter456
    @Junter456 Месяц назад +20

    Why was the comment about Doug so important to Joni that this was the hill she was going to die on...

    • @Katz55-t6u
      @Katz55-t6u Месяц назад +5

      My thoughts also. Why make such a big deal about a viewer statement?

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад

      @@Katz55-t6u she and him know that he didn't have the right to leave his wife, there was no biblical basis, Joni was warned by the counsellor about Doug and she refused to listen, who knows, perhaps they started some friendship when her and her husband Marcus were having counselling by Doug way back, you just never know. The reason i believe the big deal is because she doesn't want any negative feedback about Doug, The kids don't have any relationship with Doug whatsoever, they've never agreed with her relationship with Doug - They want it all to look like a story book, but you can't hide the truth of the matter, their lies are getting fully exposed, to take away his position as President of the company - they've now been very hurt knowing that that position was left to him by his father, As the oldest son he isn't stupid, he will fight tooth and nail so that Doug doesn't become CEO or President of the company, once all exposed, he has a claim, remember that as a church organisation this marriage is not blessed by anyone or God, she and Doug both need to resign their position, that jim is absolutely wrong, if this happened in his church, i can tell you now they would be in no church in ministry at all.

    • @conniewaltman4845
      @conniewaltman4845 14 дней назад

      It's bout power and control

  • @rose-917
    @rose-917 9 дней назад +1

    "If you're looking for great theological wisdom, where do you go? You go straight to Job's friends!" 😂 I appreciate yall dropping a bit of humor while speaking about this serious situation. God bless 🙏

  • @FloridaE-bikeAdventures
    @FloridaE-bikeAdventures Месяц назад +29

    This is hands down the best video on the evil Lamb empire of pathetic prosperity pimps. Thank you for doing this in a godly manner. Listening to Joanie and Jimmy literally made my stomach hurt. You could tell Jonathan and Susie did not want to give up their cushy six-figure jobs but they should have never been in this position or gaslighted by these two wicked power hungry, narcissistic individuals. There's no way Daystar recovers from this.

  • @sallygreenway145
    @sallygreenway145 Месяц назад +3

    The combination of refusing to be offended and being required to submit to whatever a leader does without objection, creates a distinct advantage for the leader leaving him completely unchallenged and unaccountable whether they are walking in the flesh or the spirit. They absolutely rule like a sovereign king.Jesus said; You who desire to be chief MUST be the servant of ALL. Therefore accountable to ALL. The elders who sin, Paul says are to be rebuked before ALL.(held accountable and corrected publicly.)

  • @judywilliams2213
    @judywilliams2213 Месяц назад +3

    The blood of Jesus covers us. The blood alone.

  • @karenikeler8424
    @karenikeler8424 Месяц назад +17

    Awesome teaching!
    I hope Jonathan and Suzy hear it!

  • @gwenmitchell1813
    @gwenmitchell1813 26 дней назад +2

    This is good for us to hear this. I came out of a spiritually abusive church. That church died. This will help people understand what they are going through. Those kind of churches are about power. The bible says despise not your youth. Joni and Evans are doing what they are accusing Jonathan of. Joni should not need others to tell her not to marry a divorced man. She is silly. She must be one of those who think rules for thee not for me. The bible has very strict standards for those in leadership. She is a bully demanding complete compliance against their convictions. The bible says to submit to one another. She is a dictator.

  • @MeCynthiaAnn
    @MeCynthiaAnn Месяц назад +13

    Every plot from the enemies camp will return to the enemy in Jesus, mighty name.
    The Lord will not be mocked, and everything hidden in the dark will come out, and NO attempt to prop themselves up will take place and flourish because the Lord God Almighty has the final say.
    MANY at Daystar are in for a rude awakening.
    God bless all who are putting videos about this and dear Jonathan and Suzy.... we love you and God's angel armies are all around you.
    We also pray for the RUclipsrs, who are exposing truth of what Daystar is trying to cover
    From JANESVILLE, WI

  • @marinagallant1847
    @marinagallant1847 Месяц назад +16

    Sounds like Doug is the idol here

  • @starlightie
    @starlightie Месяц назад +3

    Listening to that whole meeting between Jonathan and Suzy, jimmy, and joni was chilling. The way that jimmy and joni twisted scripture, withheld information, manipulated and spiritually abused Jonathan and Suzy was pure evil. It was from the devil.
    Praise God that it has come to light how ungodly and unbiblical Daystar is functioning

  • @elizabethnaidoo7994
    @elizabethnaidoo7994 Месяц назад +16

    Question for Evan's. Did the voice of God tell Suzy that she's holding Jonathan's???? As said by joni. who's voice was that?

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад

      LOL so true - As a christian Godly mother, one does not talk like that - She needs to step down from her position NOW

    • @stephaniemartin7402
      @stephaniemartin7402 Месяц назад

      LOL

  • @delfinaguzmanpedroza4872
    @delfinaguzmanpedroza4872 Месяц назад +6

    Kudos for Suzy Lamb!

  • @frangordon9215
    @frangordon9215 Месяц назад +7

    The more this saga is revealed, the more I highly doubt Joni’s salvation.

  • @sherronhardin2127
    @sherronhardin2127 Месяц назад +3

    Pride goeth before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall. Proverbs 16:18
    Joni and Jimmy both were prideful bragging on their experience and putting Jonathan down.
    When pride gets in, the person(s) become puffed up.
    You hear that when the so called authority is speaking.
    How sad that Joni can’t see her own errors. So abusive. Susie is the best thing for Jonathan. He’s had to live with that dominating controlling spirit his whole life.
    Glad it was recorded or no one would really know the jezebel spirit running the network.
    Sad that the family drama is playing out before the world.
    But when coverup happens God will expose and those at the top will tumble unless there is repentance. 😢

  • @michellelambert2853
    @michellelambert2853 Месяц назад +33

    What about that little girl?

    • @IreneGordon-g9w
      @IreneGordon-g9w Месяц назад +4

      It's like she doesn't matter, heartbreaking, Jesus came to serve but these people in ministry only want to be serve. 😪

    • @jeffinthesnow
      @jeffinthesnow Месяц назад +2

      She wasn’t the subject of this episode

    • @lizwilliston6678
      @lizwilliston6678 8 дней назад

      What Joni did to her grandbaby is unconscionable.....she spoke to that little girl and must have scared the $%$% out of her because she has NEVER spoken of what happened to her again😢😢😢

  • @derekhoole7156
    @derekhoole7156 Месяц назад +3

    May God abundantly bless and protect Jonathan and Suzie. This action by Joni and Daystar is regrettable and speaks volumes. Christians are called upon to be light in this dark World and to be imitators of God and certainly not to imitate the World.

  • @drdianemhoffmann9995
    @drdianemhoffmann9995 Месяц назад +4

    Scriptures must be read within their context - always!

  • @7melodyjoy
    @7melodyjoy Месяц назад +2

    FYI - the concept of covering is much older than John Bevere. I'm not sure where it originated, but I was taught it by Bill Gothard back in the early 1970's, also known as being under the "umbrella of authority." Really enjoyed this show. You did a great job discussing these revelent issues.

  • @tamimarcarelli1605
    @tamimarcarelli1605 Месяц назад +3

    I enjoyed this so much! This is very balanced. Thank you!

  • @Cuvoastoh6321
    @Cuvoastoh6321 29 дней назад +3

    It is the goodness of God that causes men to repent
    Romans 2:4

  • @ShamelesslyRed
    @ShamelesslyRed Месяц назад +11

    Evans was there to be the bully in the pulpit, so to speak

  • @lindaseikkula2296
    @lindaseikkula2296 Месяц назад +7

    It started way before John Bevever. That "covering concept" has been part of the church teaching forever.

  • @A77Spring24
    @A77Spring24 Месяц назад +9

    Joni most definitely brought all this on herself. She is the one that invited demonic spirits into her family ..her life when she married a man that had no Biblical grounds for divorce much less remarriage. Their justification for an unholy union came from Jimmy Evans’ own “wisdom,” not God’s wisdom. God’s response to those that put human wisdom over His calling it final authority ..
    1 Corinthians 1:19-21:
    "For it is written: 'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate.' Where is the wise man? Where is the scholar? Where is the philosopher of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?”

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад +2

      so true, she needs to step down, if she was in a normal church and the elders found out that Doug left his wife, Joni and Doug would have to Step Down

    • @marygargus1609
      @marygargus1609 Месяц назад +1

      Amen! well spoken!!

  • @danielah-7
    @danielah-7 Месяц назад +13

    “Witchcraft is inviting spirits to enter our lives” Is the spirit pretending to be Joni’s dead husband giving her instruction not witchcraft?

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад

      Doug committed adultery in this case, It's him that Joni has opened up her spirit to - that filthy spirit is now working full speed ahead. She's coming under his demonic spirit, the counsellor warned Joni of Doug, saying that he's a wolf in Sheeps clothing

  • @pierrettewilson6568
    @pierrettewilson6568 Месяц назад +18

    5:30 pm thank you for shedding light on this issue.

  • @David633-12m
    @David633-12m Месяц назад +25

    The Lord was speaking to the Jewish people directly telling THEM that Rebellion against HIM was compared to Witch Craft. It's called rightly dividing the Word. You can't cherry pick the Word like that. Joni is wrong about what she said that's why women shouldn't preach or teach men.

    • @jonirennirt2391
      @jonirennirt2391 Месяц назад +2

      My thoughts too about why women shouldn't preach or teach. Joni is now President of Daystar but yet she can't deal with the employee issues herself, she has to call in a "man" to speak and convince Jonathan and Susie. I walked away from listening last night and told the Lord, I see now WHY women shouldn't have that authority!!! I know they are her children, but this meeting was mainly about their roles and behavior as employees of Daystar.

  • @sbmiller7477
    @sbmiller7477 Месяц назад +8

    The one issue i have with the Joni and Doug marriage is Doug. He was the Lambs marriage counselor. After Marcus died Doug began his divorce and began pursing a relationship with Joni. This is why jonis children disagreed with the marriage.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Месяц назад +1

      It is disgusting. 🤮

    • @Wildernessvoice58
      @Wildernessvoice58 Месяц назад +2

      Great marriage counselor this Doug. Steal the wife of the couple he's counselling.

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina Месяц назад +2

      He saw the rich widow with a billion dollar ➕️ company

  • @makreacts3494
    @makreacts3494 20 дней назад

    Whoooo! Thank u Lord for calling me OUT of the buildings to the streets. Thank u, Lord, for ur spirit of comfort and truth so that we're no longer under mans bondage. Thank you Lord for the folks involved, may you deliver the oppressed

  • @laurabryce1387
    @laurabryce1387 Месяц назад +8

    BTW , the moment I heard that Joni and Doug Weiss were getting married I immediately knew it was not biblical and not ordained by God. God is actually exposing every corruption in Daystar. After hearing that statement made by Joni about her voice is the voice of God at Daystar EVERY employee should resign immediately.

    • @kimberlymerritt8434
      @kimberlymerritt8434 Месяц назад +1

      I'm confused, I thought she was married to Jimmy, is that his name?

    • @LLG-j17s3k
      @LLG-j17s3k Месяц назад

      @@kimberlymerritt8434no Doug

    • @laurabryce1387
      @laurabryce1387 Месяц назад +1

      She’s married to Doug Weiss

  • @godsgirl1217
    @godsgirl1217 Месяц назад +4

    God says he gives us a free will! He never says he'll take that free will away from us. 💛➕➕➕

  • @BroJerHWG
    @BroJerHWG Месяц назад +5

    Joni did exactly what she stated in the intro?... rebeling against Gods word by marrying a man ( an adulterer?) who divorced his wife outside the stated exceptions allowed for divorce?... abandonment isnt one of those exceptions...

  • @TCDSH
    @TCDSH Месяц назад +41

    Daystar is darkness

  • @virginiaanne
    @virginiaanne Месяц назад +8

    So glad you guys are talking about this!

  • @Jodilcolorado
    @Jodilcolorado Месяц назад +8

    Jimmy Evans: “I know more about marriage than you ever will. It’s my gifting”

  • @marilynjordan4584
    @marilynjordan4584 Месяц назад +10

    According to Joni it’s a rebellion by not reading comments of her wedding. Something off on her.

  • @donnaprather8104
    @donnaprather8104 Месяц назад +10

    Joni is not the voice of God.

    • @K_DZ236
      @K_DZ236 Месяц назад +1

      She’s the voice of the “god” of this world …2 Corinthians 4:2-4
      [2] But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. [3] But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: [4] In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

  • @dorcasbontrager216
    @dorcasbontrager216 Месяц назад +5

    Thank you…very balanced and loving teaching of Truth!

  • @robintyer1699
    @robintyer1699 Месяц назад +15

    The only way to the father is thru the son, Jesus Christ. No priest, no Joni, No Jimmy! Wow, they have built themselves up in their heads! I wonder if they told Jesus to move over because they are there now! 🤔Why is Jimmy in the middle of it all? Jonathon and Suzy arent babies anymore! Its either my way or the highway! You have to love my husband! You have to praise my husband. Can you imagine getting fired because you didnt praise your bosses husband? She used the God gun, scriptures to fight her battle. Can you imagine God watching all of this? Since you didnt submit to me you're cursed! Shes cursing her grandbabies? Shes upset because they didnt go to her wedding, I mean stage performance! Why does Joni need so much praise? Its suppose to be about God, not Weiss or Joni! Joni looks like a fool now! Now, shes suing RUclipsrs because they wont agree with her! This teaches people to check their authority! Authority isnt always right! 1 John 4:1. Joni wants a little son not a man! Rebelling against God is rebellion not rebelling against her if shes wrong! Its not even right for her to say control your wife! She only wants YES people! Jimmy is the mediator? If you want to have people ok a sin, you go to like minded people! Numbers doesnt mean your right. Many will ok adultery. She should go to the word of God to check herself. Not another thats had sdultery! 2 wrongs dont make a right my mom always said! 😊

  • @deniseellenburg649
    @deniseellenburg649 Месяц назад +9

    I have major problems with the "theology" used in this situation and the church of today overall because it is NOT BIBLICAL!

  • @juanitaquintana4531
    @juanitaquintana4531 Месяц назад +8

    God’s truth prevails! Joni is lost, no more love for the son…sooooo embarrassing…Daystar fall….Supporters get your money back and never support anymore….instead Give financial support to Jonathan n family

  • @joannereeves4121
    @joannereeves4121 Месяц назад +12

    Satan has come to destroy and he always starts with the family..........this is just hearbreaking

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina Месяц назад

      Don't need satan when you have parents like Jonathan's

  • @deniseellenburg649
    @deniseellenburg649 Месяц назад +12

    Jimmy Evans certainly gets around...

  • @laurens8623
    @laurens8623 Месяц назад +7

    Maybe Doug needs to tell his divorce story

  • @carmentartaglia7133
    @carmentartaglia7133 24 дня назад +2

    Exactly! Totally toxic dysfunctional narcissist environment. 😢 Joni is accusing Jonathan about what she's doing. So typical ❤😂

  • @carmensantiago-kv7dg
    @carmensantiago-kv7dg Месяц назад +4

    Yes let's not loose the focus the little girl 🙏 for the child.

  • @cherelann63
    @cherelann63 Месяц назад +6

    Seems joni is in rebellion to The Lord speaking through many of warning joni about doug weiss.

  • @cathy3546
    @cathy3546 Месяц назад +3

    Bevere saying that spiritual abuse is used by God to break us! Does this mean that God uses physical abuse to break us?! I don't think so.

  • @JackCrawford-k2p
    @JackCrawford-k2p Месяц назад +15

    Jimmy is protecting his priority #1. Money. That means he sides with Joni. Jonathan and Suzi should cut and run. They could get their doctrine right if they were away from that carnival/bizarre of merchandising the brethren.

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад +1

      yes true, but his father started the company this is between him and his mother, the mother is trying to give more power to the husband and less to her son, she wants full submission that she's not entitled to, she and doug need to step down, they married committing adultery and yes Pastor Jim is covering up, there's a lot of money her, but the Son can fight this, he doesn't deserve this treatment.

    • @laurenmay2098
      @laurenmay2098 Месяц назад +1

      Jonathan is a rightful heir of Daystar, Joni will pay dearly for treating him like a child. If I was him, I would get a lawyer and sue them. I would dragged that to the mud. But Jonathan is not like that at all. Very passive, it’s even infuriating his actions. I know he is godly and educated, but why he let his mother call his wife evil? Wow, he was wrong. Stand up and leave the meeting.,but I guess he wanted to record as much as he could, and he did.

    • @stephaniemartin7402
      @stephaniemartin7402 Месяц назад +1

      I've wondered more than once when seeing some of the things (teachings etc.) Jimmy Evans is putting out there whether he is under some pressure to bring in revenue to Daystar.

  • @4everSunsets
    @4everSunsets Месяц назад +11

    She is the owner of a billion dollar company. Maybe that's why she feels like God.

    • @Peonia-Melbourne
      @Peonia-Melbourne Месяц назад +2

      Other people who help out like this usually are under the spell of money

  • @patriciaivashin9627
    @patriciaivashin9627 Месяц назад +1

    Great to hear the intelligent voices of reason. You gentlemen are a blessing ❤

  • @deborahdyck7398
    @deborahdyck7398 Месяц назад +6

    Horrific interview! Almost had to turn it off, what a mom! The balls comment about killed my heart! Wake up Joni! You’re going to lose your family and just have your husband one day!

  • @valeriemurray9903
    @valeriemurray9903 Месяц назад +4

    Humility is the watchword. Moses was commended by God, for being humble.

  • @marinagallant1847
    @marinagallant1847 Месяц назад +9

    Jimmy is horrible....HE is worshipping Joni as an idol: god

  • @jewelspraul7049
    @jewelspraul7049 Месяц назад +13

    I never paid much attention to John Bavere & never read his books or even listened to him preach. I'm very thankful now I was able to dodge his abuse. I was exposed to Benny Hinn & I was actually healed by GOD at a service in 1980 where Benny Hinn was singing. I was in the very back row & Benny Hinn never came near me ut GOD definitely did. I spent many years in churches where spiritual manipulation & gasslighting were practiced. I saw a lot of sexual abuse, theft, divorce and every other sin especially from the leadership. I'm very cautious now & I stay away from pentecostal charismatic churches & pastors. I have been a Christian for 46 years & amazing as it seems GOD always sends me someone to confirm what HE is telling me. Spiritual abuse is rampant in the Charismatic pentecostal churches now. I have several pastors that I follow on line & I always have my Bible. GOD needs to finish HIS housecleaning before I will be comfortable in a church again.
    I don't think Johnathan & Suzy could have done anything to avoid this other than to not work in the family business. Joni & Jimmy Evans are 💯 wrong & treating Jonathan like a child. He's on the board & Jimmy Evans is not! I don't know what Jimmy's motivation is but it's definitely not for the good of this family! Joni should have waited to get married & had more counsel.

    • @RuthPierre-w2u
      @RuthPierre-w2u Месяц назад

      JONi was too HOT for Doug and she wasn't listening to no one, she had been listening at Doug 's Seminars about his private part and couldn't wait on the LORD in her flesh, bottom line, she should have more wisdom than she showed here, too old' and has been in the ministry for too long and she didn't see this WOLF coming,, miss me with that, she don't want anyone pointing out her failure, about marrying this man 😂😂

    • @johnandsheilaalderson
      @johnandsheilaalderson Месяц назад +1

      What was said about John Bevere, did I miss it?

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina Месяц назад

      God healed you despite Benny Hinn. He's an abuser and manipulator himself.

  • @1234butterfield
    @1234butterfield Месяц назад +3

    Appreciate your insight into this. Properly discerning Authority in the church is very important in this season as God is dealing with his Church. Thank you

  • @chevydude658
    @chevydude658 Месяц назад +4

    This is a very good discussion. I enjoyed listening to you two young men. There were some great points made here.

  • @marygargus1609
    @marygargus1609 Месяц назад +3

    Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. This means rebellion against the Word of God. Who is the rebellious ones here? Here are two people who directly rebelled against the authority of the words of our Lord Jesus Christ who gave us the only reason for divorce.

  • @stjohnbaby
    @stjohnbaby Месяц назад +17

    Darkstar going down, watch...

  • @ChinaDavis-c3w
    @ChinaDavis-c3w Месяц назад +4

    Paul said, follow me AS I follow Christ. Settles the issue. When your heart says, otherwise , you have to follow your hearts leading.

  • @CNRedFlags
    @CNRedFlags Месяц назад +13

    New subcriber here. What an amazing breakdown of this particularly egregious encounter with evil authority. I used to believe in this Undercover crap. I stayed at an abusive job for 28 years, thinking I just needed to learn how to submit better. 😵‍💫 You both are great teachers. I hope more people find this channel and get free from abusive leadership. I'm sad to say it's more widespread in the charismatic movement. Thank you both. I learned so much tonight. God bless 🙌🏻 you both. 🌬💙🕊

    • @conchettatruthseeker9159
      @conchettatruthseeker9159 Месяц назад

      My comment was removed. AND I KNOW WHY. This is wrong.
      If u stay at an abusive job that's totally different & your choice...u can leave if you so choose. And your comment is called 'Projection'. I've left abusive jobs b4. That's totally different than insubordination. My comment was correct in saying they've not submitted to they're boss but the underlying issue is NOT about 'the viewers comment' not being read on air at all. It's about having to stifle their emotions (spiritual abuse) & coersed into keeping their mouths shut about their child's S.A. yrs prior. And during that rift Marcus removed Jonathon from his heirship of becoming President of Daystar. Throw Joni's new husband into the mix & you have the makings of an emotional bomb. Joni shud have spoken to her children, resolved all these issues b4 marrying.
      This video IS WRONG - they haven't listened to the new audio, the FULL audio. If they did they wud have better understanding that this incident of 'not reading a comment' is being wrongly connected (via the 1st audio) & protrayed as if they were fired bcuz they sought justice for their child being S.A.'d, which is INCORRECT. If this Reaction Video & these comments are a reflection of the Body of Christ, we r in big trouble! No discernment & no proper vetting before speaking or hurrying to make a youtube video! Listen to the ENTIRE audio...I too was swayed then the Holy Spirit said 'Listen to the whole story, which was posted yesterday by The Roy Report. 2 wrongs don't make a right. For us or them.
      The issue is rooted from years ago Re: their daughters S.A. and I agree they shud pursue lawful justice for that.

    • @CNRedFlags
      @CNRedFlags Месяц назад +1

      @conchettatruthseeker9159 You have no idea what I have been through. The owner of the company was Christian, and we went to the same church. The 28 years were horrfic. It wasn't until I went to counseling that I was able to leave. I am a child of SA and abuse, so I was an easy target. The beginning of your comment was rude and hurtful. Please don't assume you know all things. The rest of your comment, I agree with. I, too, have listened to the entire auto. The child's SA cover-up is at the root. But their beliefs and false teachings is how we got here.

    • @conchettatruthseeker9159
      @conchettatruthseeker9159 Месяц назад

      @CNRedFlags I am very sorry you went thru abuse. Maybe you should have quit if you cud have like I did and I am also familiar with abuse, but none of what we experienced in life is relevant to this case/nor what I addressed in my comment. The idea of insubordination for not following your boss's orders to read a viewers comment is different than Joni trying to hide the S.A. which happened years prior & shudnt have ever happened.
      Emotionally, they are obviously still hurting & feel the horrible wrong control over that. Like i said, it shud have all bern cleared up b4 Joni married Doug. But practically, if your boss gives you an instruction to read something and you choose not to follow thru, that's
      called insubordination.

  • @LisaHadeler3
    @LisaHadeler3 Месяц назад +5

    The anointed ARE the people of God.

  • @annetteryder9501
    @annetteryder9501 Месяц назад +6

    Great discussion, guys! Thank you. Accountability is very important for everyone especially for leadership. My thought was where is Joni and Jimmy’s discernment and humility and yes, we the ppl of God are important to be heard. I saw them exercising no respect, no love toward Jonathan and Suzy. Only narcissistic control. Sooo sad. Gaslighting evil. Apparently Daystar is an idol to Joni and her flying monkeys. Joni thinks she’s not a sinner? I believe Abba will raise up Jonathan and Suzy to be great Christian leaders as He reveals this profound error/sin in Joni, Doug (new husband or whatever he is) and Jimmy Evans. God strength His Bride and make us holy…we are thankful for His presence and mercy and the Blood of Yeshua.

  • @valeriemurray9903
    @valeriemurray9903 Месяц назад +3

    Thankyou, most enlightening.

  • @isand2015
    @isand2015 Месяц назад +14

    It's up for all them in 2024, Diddy, TD Jakes, it doesnt matter who it is. All lies will b exposed....Comedian Katt Williams.

    • @tpmash
      @tpmash Месяц назад +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Marlaina
      @Marlaina Месяц назад +1

      The prophet Katt Williams 😂😂😂

  • @ShamelesslyRed
    @ShamelesslyRed Месяц назад +2

    Yall, to the very sensitive person who is weak in their faith, they would've collapsed under the weight of that manipulation, gaslighting and outright emotional, mental and spiritual abuse!
    I'm so glad to see that these young parents stood up for what they believe is true.

  • @MarieWilliams-u1p
    @MarieWilliams-u1p Месяц назад +6

    Does anyone have the fear of God anymore! To Honor him! Were does it say a preacher or leader is the only one who hears from God! I watched Daystar and couldn't give i was about to and the Holy Spirit just shut me down! Decrement some many times! Thank you Jesus! Now i know why!!!!! God is good!!!! Joni is exposed! Dark!

  • @sharlenesugarbaker
    @sharlenesugarbaker Месяц назад +4

    Excellent conversation.

  • @crystalsky9512
    @crystalsky9512 Месяц назад +2

    Daystar is a business with a private plane and many properties etc. all paid for by what monies collected from the public in the name of ministry. Any other regular job you have a job description of duties required. Joni didn't need to even bring in any scripture's at all or justify why she needed to bring in a so called counselor at all. Just write up a job description for their paid positions. If you don't like your duties quit you job. The public needs to realize Daystar is reduced to a business not a church.

  • @elainerigsby8519
    @elainerigsby8519 Месяц назад +1

    She is not God. She is a manger of a company. I remember a pastor that took a bunch of people to Ganda and told them that he was the voice of God , he told them they had to drink the koolaid and they all died. There is only one GOD. And it is not Joni or Jimmy . It makes me wonder who they are listening to.

  • @livingformessiah586
    @livingformessiah586 Месяц назад +6

    Here come the letters from the attorneys at day star

  • @simbeeong5352
    @simbeeong5352 Месяц назад +1

    Jonathan and Suzie should listen
    to the two speakers.🙏🙏🙏

  • @rhonii6259
    @rhonii6259 Месяц назад +5

    That’s exactly how it sound controlling, abuseive, that’s how I hear it too.😢