More than a "compact" subwoofer, this is a really music powerhouse. At the beginning I admit that my feelings was not that good, the idea was to deal with an expensive audiophile stuff because of the name (and the marketing), but thanks to your sneak peak it seems to be really worthy. Thanks again. Regards and many compliments for your channel.
I’ve no doubt it’s a superb sounding sub. Adrian quite rightly stated you’re better off with stereo subs. That’s equal to the cost of a family car, or, a down payment on a property! I have multiple Rel subs, which in total cost less than one of them. There are essentially 3 settings to play with a Rel. Gain or intensity, crossover and phase. Even so, it took me months of experimentation, trial and error to get them dialled in to my listening preference. I recently purchased a premium OLED tv and had to employ a calibrator to optimise picture performance. I think I’d need to employ an audio technician to help dial that sub in. When it comes to hifi, I’m a 2 channel man. A minimalist and a purest. I believe simplicity is the key to purest performance. I like to set a component up with minimal effort, then forget about it. Not have to keep making adjustments according to what I’m listening to. That is an expensive sub with a complex user interface. For that amount of money, you would have thought that the least Wilson could do, is make life simpler and more convenient by equipping the unit with a remote control!
@@CobraChamp Of which you have absolutely ZERO proof. That modified Corvette with the 1000 HP engine is exactly the same as stock because they LOOK the same, right? 🤣
@@VideoArchiveGuy Hahaha video guy. Except that to use your analogy, Wilson is claiming. a 500W amp, just like the one Parts Express is selling. Same exact horsepower rating. Do you see the error in your logic? By the way, you do you, I'm not here to try to convince you. Keep drinking the cool aide if you chose.
@@CobraChamp So what you're saying is Wilson is incapable of building an upgraded 500w amp. Let us all know when someone actually removes the amp from a Lōkē and proves it's the same amp rather than based on the fact they LOOK the same.
I attended the launch by the distributor in South Africa. This thing is unbelievable! We listened to to dual Lokis with TuneTots and and Alexia. Both presentations were off the charts. I have TuneTots with RELs in my rig. I can tell you that REL T7s vs Loki is chalk and cheese. Unfortunately very expensive. But quiet something 😳
At that price you should be comparing it to the REL G25. Comparing it to the T7 is silly. Put otherwise, for the price of a stereo pair of these one could get a stereo pair of S/510 line array 3-stacks.
Tune tots are crap for the money, they are mess in the frequency response and suffer from poor port distortion, they are not neutral in the least, they are a total waste of money. For the price of the tune tots, you can buy ATC SCM45a studio monitors, that wipe the floor with those overpriced Wilsons.
This subwoofer is being discussed in r/audiophile (reddit). Apparently the Sub plate amp installed is the same as some generic subs including Dayton audio. I know it has a different implementation but I mean for the price difference, it feels like 80% of the price is just for the Wilson brand. I do like the Wilson design of speakers though.
every company claims most of what the consumer is paying for is the 'tuning' of the gear rather than the cheap parts, maybe 40% cost is because of the famous name? not more
@@TheDanEdwards even if thats the case, how can you be assured that Wilson didn’t cheap out on these other parts and assembly given that they can slap a generic amp on to it for that price? And lets do say they did all the state of the art work on the cones, crossover and assembly, wouldn’t you want to put a better amp in their to maximize all the work you did rather than put a generic amp? Anyway you are already charging more than 10grand might as well make it 12-15grand to truly make it high end. It doesn’t make sense for a high end brand. Again unless probably someone opens the box and proves doubters wrong the price is again too much for what we can see outside(despite the sound). But then again I digress as we are talking about Wilsons so if one can afford their speakers, this is probably pancakes for them. At the end of the day they want the matched design and the name.
@@ydid687 probably but REL 25s and line arrays are also tuned well and they are still cheaper than this with at least better amp installed. Again I just can’t make sense of the price with the part included. It still is mostly brand name imho.
I am running 2 JTR Captivator RS2s in my home theater. After seeing this, I was thinking "damn, for just a couple hundred dollars more I could have got ONE of these instead" 😂 No, not really, but it is pretty
I made my own device with a Leon amplifier, a 10" HiVi SP10 subwoofer driver, Kerf ported enclosure with pieces that I already had and I am the happiest audiophile since then, with more than 1000 watts rms, I have enough room to play with. For instrumental or classical music or electronic beats any subwoofer I ever heard before.
@@DTMHMK Really, a Google search has removed one from a Wilson speaker and shown you each of the individual components within the amp is the same, or just "Oh look, they look the same as far as controls and spacing?" Yep, the latter. No one's disassembled an actual Wilson amp yet.
Adrian - thanks for bringing us "delicious looking" gear via your channel. Re: High-Pass Delay feature - while I've not looked it up, my guess is that it only works when hi-pass filter output is active and it's to delay your mains when sub(s) are positioned behind the mains and further from the listening position. Not sure if the delay feature is expressed in distance (feet) or milliseconds (with 15"=1ms when using 1250'/sec speed of sound). Be sure to let us know how they sound . . .
Please, no more mindless unboxing videos. I truly love your crazy, unscripted videos and honest+bold opinions so give us something better than unboxing, please!
What's a bit strange is Wilson gives frequency response specs for the Lōkē's built-in amp on their web site… but no measurements for the actual subwoofer.
I'd rather get two duel 18" JTR subwoofers with 4000wrms for around the same price geez wiz that's alot of money for such a small subwoofer I'm assuming is 12". The features are pretty cool but as someone said it's a mere copy of a different brands design which doesn't justify the price! You guys should order a Duel 18" JTR subwoofer for review and comparison I believe there around $4500
While I don’t buy my Wilson and McIntosh gear from this retailer - something about him just rubs me the wrong way - it’s nice that he took the time to present this Dayton powered Wilson sub.😊
eh i dont love the design decision of casters. i think id prefer if they added furniture slider type feet to the bottom, with a threaded hole in the center of each foot for spikes
"that only goes down to 30 cycles" - If you bothered to check the specs online, Wilson claims 20 Hz to 250 Hz (+/- 1 dB). That's pretty impressive for a relatively small subwoofer box.
@@TheDanEdwards I sure don't believe those specs. Especially when this subwoofer was designed to fit in small spaces. It doesn't even make sense for a subwoofer to have those specs. Those specs are a very optimistic wish.
This $9000 subwoofer uses off the shelf Dayton plate amp that's $329 retail, model number 300-8012, my last comment posting about this was deleted
Absolutely the same plate amp with a Wilson label on it.
And Made in Taiwan!!! For $8,500! Not as bad as the PS Audio Aspens being Made in China for $35,000!!! 😧
More than a "compact" subwoofer, this is a really music powerhouse. At the beginning I admit that my feelings was not that good, the idea was to deal with an expensive audiophile stuff because of the name (and the marketing), but thanks to your sneak peak it seems to be really worthy. Thanks again. Regards and many compliments for your channel.
Oh, the nerve to buy off-the-shelf parts from Dayton audio and sell it for that much.
I’ve no doubt it’s a superb sounding sub. Adrian quite rightly stated you’re better off with stereo subs. That’s equal to the cost of a family car, or, a down payment on a property! I have multiple Rel subs, which in total cost less than one of them. There are essentially 3 settings to play with a Rel. Gain or intensity, crossover and phase. Even so, it took me months of experimentation, trial and error to get them dialled in to my listening preference. I recently purchased a premium OLED tv and had to employ a calibrator to optimise picture performance. I think I’d need to employ an audio technician to help dial that sub in.
When it comes to hifi, I’m a 2 channel man. A minimalist and a purest. I believe simplicity is the key to purest performance. I like to set a component up with minimal effort, then forget about it. Not have to keep making adjustments according to what I’m listening to.
That is an expensive sub with a complex user interface. For that amount of money, you would have thought that the least Wilson could do, is make life simpler and more convenient by equipping the unit with a remote control!
Wilson Audio speakers are Niche products
@@imosolar so is a Bentley! That doesn’t mean I’d choose it over a Mercedes’!
It says a lot about how far Dayton Audio has progressed in that Wilson uses their plate amp for this sub.
No they don't.
They may look the same, but we don't know if they are, particularly internally.
It absolutely uses the off the shelf Dayton plate amp that's $329 retail, model number 300-8012
@@CobraChamp Of which you have absolutely ZERO proof.
That modified Corvette with the 1000 HP engine is exactly the same as stock because they LOOK the same, right? 🤣
@@VideoArchiveGuy Hahaha video guy. Except that to use your analogy, Wilson is claiming. a 500W amp, just like the one Parts Express is selling. Same exact horsepower rating. Do you see the error in your logic? By the way, you do you, I'm not here to try to convince you. Keep drinking the cool aide if you chose.
@@CobraChamp So what you're saying is Wilson is incapable of building an upgraded 500w amp.
Let us all know when someone actually removes the amp from a Lōkē and proves it's the same amp rather than based on the fact they LOOK the same.
vilip’s hair 😂
and shoes...
I attended the launch by the distributor in South Africa. This thing is unbelievable! We listened to to dual Lokis with TuneTots and and Alexia. Both presentations were off the charts. I have TuneTots with RELs in my rig. I can tell you that REL T7s vs Loki is chalk and cheese. Unfortunately very expensive. But quiet something 😳
At that price you should be comparing it to the REL G25. Comparing it to the T7 is silly. Put otherwise, for the price of a stereo pair of these one could get a stereo pair of S/510 line array 3-stacks.
I've ordered the Wilson Audio TuneTot speakers and am looking for subwoofer from either REL reference subwoofer or Loke?
Tune tots are crap for the money, they are mess in the frequency response and suffer from poor port distortion, they are not neutral in the least, they are a total waste of money. For the price of the tune tots, you can buy ATC SCM45a studio monitors, that wipe the floor with those overpriced Wilsons.
@@imosolardid you end up with loke? Thoughts on tune tots with/without subs
oh, now I see why it's 8k plus...what a beautiful included product brochure....
This subwoofer is being discussed in r/audiophile (reddit). Apparently the Sub plate amp installed is the same as some generic subs including Dayton audio. I know it has a different implementation but I mean for the price difference, it feels like 80% of the price is just for the Wilson brand. I do like the Wilson design of speakers though.
every company claims most of what the consumer is paying for is the 'tuning' of the gear rather than the cheap parts, maybe 40% cost is because of the famous name? not more
For box speakers most of the work goes into the actual box and cones (and magnet assembly.)
@@TheDanEdwards even if thats the case, how can you be assured that Wilson didn’t cheap out on these other parts and assembly given that they can slap a generic amp on to it for that price? And lets do say they did all the state of the art work on the cones, crossover and assembly, wouldn’t you want to put a better amp in their to maximize all the work you did rather than put a generic amp? Anyway you are already charging more than 10grand might as well make it 12-15grand to truly make it high end. It doesn’t make sense for a high end brand. Again unless probably someone opens the box and proves doubters wrong the price is again too much for what we can see outside(despite the sound). But then again I digress as we are talking about Wilsons so if one can afford their speakers, this is probably pancakes for them. At the end of the day they want the matched design and the name.
@@ydid687 probably but REL 25s and line arrays are also tuned well and they are still cheaper than this with at least better amp installed. Again I just can’t make sense of the price with the part included. It still is mostly brand name imho.
The term "different implementation" is silly - by that comparison, all class AB amps are the same, they just vary in implementation.
Cool features, looks good. I would much prefer to have the DSP controls and screen on the front of the sub.
Awaiting the review of the subwoofer because I've ordered the Wilson Audio TuneTot speakers. Then get either REL reference subwoofer or Loke?
I am running 2 JTR Captivator RS2s in my home theater. After seeing this, I was thinking "damn, for just a couple hundred dollars more I could have got ONE of these instead" 😂
No, not really, but it is pretty
I truly admire the folks that have the ability to afford these gear. Eight thousand dollars for a subwoofer that small is insanely incomprehensible.
I made my own device with a Leon amplifier, a 10" HiVi SP10 subwoofer driver, Kerf ported enclosure with pieces that I already had and I am the happiest audiophile since then, with more than 1000 watts rms, I have enough room to play with. For instrumental or classical music or electronic beats any subwoofer I ever heard before.
my dad picked one up which was a demo unit to go with are wilson audio duettes s1.
Tune Tots Sabrina X and Alida all benefit from the Loke sub👍
That looks like a Dayton audio plate amp
Because it is lmao
@@DTMHMK No, it's not.
@@VideoArchiveGuy If you cared to actually compare them, yes, they are the exact same. A quick Google search would show you this.
@@DTMHMK Really, a Google search has removed one from a Wilson speaker and shown you each of the individual components within the amp is the same, or just "Oh look, they look the same as far as controls and spacing?"
Yep, the latter.
No one's disassembled an actual Wilson amp yet.
@@VideoArchiveGuy Re-branding with a different label is very common. Not saying a high end manufacturer would ever do that......😉
This is using a custom version of the svs sta-1000d amplifier. Many of us are familiar from the px-13 ultra lineup from a few years ago
The crate must be opened with Wilson Drill bits.
Adrian - thanks for bringing us "delicious looking" gear via your channel.
Re: High-Pass Delay feature - while I've not looked it up, my guess is that it only works when hi-pass filter output is active and it's to delay your mains when sub(s) are positioned behind the mains and further from the listening position. Not sure if the delay feature is expressed in distance (feet) or milliseconds (with 15"=1ms when using 1250'/sec speed of sound). Be sure to let us know how they sound . . .
Please, no more mindless unboxing videos. I truly love your crazy, unscripted videos and honest+bold opinions so give us something better than unboxing, please!
What!? No remote? Unbelievable. I suppose a remote would add another thousand or two. Or three. Sheesh!
Can't wait to come see this soon !!!
What's a bit strange is Wilson gives frequency response specs for the Lōkē's built-in amp on their web site… but no measurements for the actual subwoofer.
You mean you can spend a small fortune on Wilson speakers and you will need a sub ? Crazy!
yeah i imagine REL No. 25 is enough and even extra
Every speaker system, even their Chronosonic XVX, is better served with dedicated subs.
I'd rather get two duel 18" JTR subwoofers with 4000wrms for around the same price geez wiz that's alot of money for such a small subwoofer I'm assuming is 12". The features are pretty cool but as someone said it's a mere copy of a different brands design which doesn't justify the price!
You guys should order a Duel 18" JTR subwoofer for review and comparison I believe there around $4500
While I don’t buy my Wilson and McIntosh gear from this retailer - something about him just rubs me the wrong way - it’s nice that he took the time to present this Dayton powered Wilson sub.😊
how are things?~wow,that is beautiful , take care! Audio- 👏
Very nice, all subs need highpass filters.
A fool and his money........
Nice unit how much is retail ? Lot of work setting sub up. Other manufacturers use microphone and calibrate to your room.
That's cute.
You can buy a Rel G1 MKII and save 3K. Not to mention the Rel will blow that Wilson sub away.
Very nice adjustability and cabinet features. It is worth the asking price.
eh i dont love the design decision of casters. i think id prefer if they added furniture slider type feet to the bottom, with a threaded hole in the center of each foot for spikes
The sub comes with spikes/Diodes. The castors are for moving around
…do the Lokemotion with meee 🎶🎵
8 grand+ for this. It's just a small sub. Does it even go down to 20Hz?
$8700…. Go home Wilson. You’re drunk.
Strange that at this price they couldn’t get an amp Made in NA?? Either USA or Canada? The photo shows amp is Made in Taiwan… 🤔
No doubt this sub sounds great, but 8500 clams for a sub that only goes down to 30 cycles? No thanks.
But the bass is very articulated lol. Some will go as far as to argue that it punches above its price and that it sounds good for its price lol
"that only goes down to 30 cycles" - If you bothered to check the specs online, Wilson claims 20 Hz to 250 Hz (+/- 1 dB). That's pretty impressive for a relatively small subwoofer box.
@@TheDanEdwards I sure don't believe those specs. Especially when this subwoofer was designed to fit in small spaces. It doesn't even make sense for a subwoofer to have those specs. Those specs are a very optimistic wish.
@@TheDanEdwards The specs Wilson gives on their site are for the subwoofer AMP - no frequency response spec is given for the sub itself.
So, I'm the one you challenge when an online reviewer makes a mistake? That's pretty obnoxious, isn't it? @@TheDanEdwards
Do those casters already look worn?
I noticed that too. But probably more for just moving around till you find the spot
These are leftover casters from the Witt‘s they never sold off back in the day .
This is a Dayton plate amp! I love Wilson, but this is Lame, even for a Wilson fan.
The amp menu looks very much like SVS's . 🤔
sta 1000d variation in the svs pb13...
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If you believe this sub is worth 8750 dollars then I have some swamp land to sell you in Alaska if interested.
Do NOT touch that Woofer with your hands please... you always do that... :(