Rumley made it sound like getting the data acquisition was the only factor that led to the creation of the "device". While no doubt that aided him, I'm sure the main motivation that led him down that path was what Bloomer was doing on the LR corner in 2014. Maybe Lanigan as well. Rule changes made what they were doing illegal opening the door for the "device". It wasn't something Kevin Rumley just brainstormed up on his own by collecting data. He was influenced by the trends in dlm racing at the time. Jonathan Davenport has even said this in interviews.
I was surprised that the Twitter debate yesterday between Paul Silva and Kyle Hirst about the costs of 360 vs 410 racing didn't make it as a topic. I was kind of looking forward to Justin's take on that debate.
@mjriemen very true. I remember a live stream David gravel did before the outlaw season started where he said the whole 360 class of sprint cars was utterly pointless because it cost nearly the same to run a 360, with the 360 races paying like half of what a 410 race does
Releases the rear bite on the LR while capturing the energy in a “capsule” kinda like a shock then when the LR is engaged again on the rear end the energy is dispersed back by released the valve on the capsule.
Support classes could make for an interesting show topic in the future. Heard a few different people around me last night at Butler complaining about the amount of time it was taking for the preliminary action for the street stocks & 4 cylinders. Had some friends that left after the All Stars finished their heat races because of how slow the program was moving.
I would agree with this. I'm all for support classes as long as there's no more than 2 of them. Last weekend there was a Sprint Invader show at Peoria Speedway that I was going to go to, but then I saw 6 classes were running & decided to skip it. I will not go if there's more than 3 classes running.
This is problem at the tracks I go to. A race I was going to last night had 5 classes so I didn't go. Another track I used to go to weekly runs 4 classes plus 2 classes of mini wedges. The minis never get done before the regular classes are supposed to start.
My problem isn't so much with the support classes themselves as it is tracks not running efficiently. If you're going to have a decent number of classes you better start on time and have a reasonable intermission time. The race I was at last night started 20 minutes late and had a 1 hour intermission, can't blame that crap on the racers.
@billmellinger1134 Most tracks around me run 7 normally, it's a big part of the reason that of the 38 races I've been to this year only 5 have been normal weekly shows.
@@RacingVagabond 100%,part of the frustration on Saturday was they started a half hour late, and there was a half hour brake to water the track, which is completely out of the racers hands, but at the same time the 4-cylinders were told over the PA that they needed to be lined up in staging, which didn’t happen and caused a 10min delay waiting on them.
I thought we had some really good racing over the weekend. I’ve always wanted to know more about Rumley’s “device” but never thought I’d hear it even referenced again. Are they still talking about it in LM circles after all these years? Great show!
RTJ has something no one else has. I'm not saying he is cheating, but he is much better at times than all the competition. That being said, I love watching him race.
@@KimiWallruslol what, this isn't NASCAR. Super late models have very loose engine rules, they don't need power adders when they no limit to the displacement they can use. If they need more power they simply build a bigger engine. The amount of power they make isn't the issue, it's putting the power down. That's where concepts like Rumleys device come in. Speed in these cars is by how much drive they can get off the corner and it's constant battle to find more drive off.
I watched the Rumley video too. My take was that if Rumley would've sold the "device" to the competition, we'd still be seeing it or a variation of it on all the late models today...imo The fact that he refused to sell it, is what made it "illegal"...lol Great video!
I still think that even with rtj starting at the rear, if the race went caution free, i think he wouldn't of made it up front. The two cautions that happened before he left the race definitely helped him.
Brad Sweet and Kyle Larson new Sprint Car Series High Stakes... Large, mostly weekday purses with lots of ASCOC regulars and WOO drivers are allowed to compete in up to four events a year... Brad Sweet will be racing at Lernerville in a 50k to win race, along with Larson coming up... Brad is focusing on building this series, and spends a lot of time promoting and actually can be seen standing in the infield during every race he isn't entered in... Actually a Senior official.... That s the extracurricular activities... Dale Jr. will is going to be at the Lernerville event doing his radio show...
Brad Sweet and Kyle Larson new Sprint Car Series High Stakes... Large, mostly weekday purses with lots of ASCOC regulars and WOO drivers are allowed to compete in up to four events a year... Brad Sweet will be racing at Lernerville in a 50k to win race, along with Larson coming up... Brad is focusing on building this series, and spends a lot of time promoting and actually can be seen standing in the infield during every race he isn't entered in... Actually a Senior official.... That s the extracurricular activities...
who tagged Tanner Holms the Hammer? Thant doesn't even come close to describe his driving style. What about "Dirt Tracker" having an open poll coming up with a name that most fits his driving style. What about the "Jacksonville Comet?"
Rumley made it sound like getting the data acquisition was the only factor that led to the creation of the "device". While no doubt that aided him, I'm sure the main motivation that led him down that path was what Bloomer was doing on the LR corner in 2014. Maybe Lanigan as well. Rule changes made what they were doing illegal opening the door for the "device". It wasn't something Kevin Rumley just brainstormed up on his own by collecting data. He was influenced by the trends in dlm racing at the time. Jonathan Davenport has even said this in interviews.
Tell me more. What was bloomer doing lol
I was surprised that the Twitter debate yesterday between Paul Silva and Kyle Hirst about the costs of 360 vs 410 racing didn't make it as a topic. I was kind of looking forward to Justin's take on that debate.
What was the debate?
Not much difference in cost between 410’s and 360’s imo…
@mjriemen very true. I remember a live stream David gravel did before the outlaw season started where he said the whole 360 class of sprint cars was utterly pointless because it cost nearly the same to run a 360, with the 360 races paying like half of what a 410 race does
Would love to see that debate.
Releases the rear bite on the LR while capturing the energy in a “capsule” kinda like a shock then when the LR is engaged again on the rear end the energy is dispersed back by released the valve on the capsule.
Support classes could make for an interesting show topic in the future. Heard a few different people around me last night at Butler complaining about the amount of time it was taking for the preliminary action for the street stocks & 4 cylinders. Had some friends that left after the All Stars finished their heat races because of how slow the program was moving.
I would agree with this. I'm all for support classes as long as there's no more than 2 of them. Last weekend there was a Sprint Invader show at Peoria Speedway that I was going to go to, but then I saw 6 classes were running & decided to skip it. I will not go if there's more than 3 classes running.
This is problem at the tracks I go to. A race I was going to last night had 5 classes so I didn't go. Another track I used to go to weekly runs 4 classes plus 2 classes of mini wedges. The minis never get done before the regular classes are supposed to start.
My problem isn't so much with the support classes themselves as it is tracks not running efficiently. If you're going to have a decent number of classes you better start on time and have a reasonable intermission time. The race I was at last night started 20 minutes late and had a 1 hour intermission, can't blame that crap on the racers.
@billmellinger1134 Most tracks around me run 7 normally, it's a big part of the reason that of the 38 races I've been to this year only 5 have been normal weekly shows.
@@RacingVagabond 100%,part of the frustration on Saturday was they started a half hour late, and there was a half hour brake to water the track, which is completely out of the racers hands, but at the same time the 4-cylinders were told over the PA that they needed to be lined up in staging, which didn’t happen and caused a 10min delay waiting on them.
I thought we had some really good racing over the weekend. I’ve always wanted to know more about Rumley’s “device” but never thought I’d hear it even referenced again. Are they still talking about it in LM circles after all these years? Great show!
Flo just did a special on it is why it’s a topic again
I was up at Butler last night. It was fast track. All most to fast!! Better then it has been all year. Was s good race.
Dang, I was hoping for an update on Bloomer's health.
How about one show a week SLM’s only I would set the bell for that
Rumley amazing person
Sunday with Dirtrackr and a bloody mary, perfect!
RTJ has something no one else has. I'm not saying he is cheating, but he is much better at times than all the competition. That being said, I love watching him race.
@@KimiWallrusGood Lord man!! Handling wins races. And do you not think they'd find a bottle?
@@KimiWallruslol what, this isn't NASCAR. Super late models have very loose engine rules, they don't need power adders when they no limit to the displacement they can use. If they need more power they simply build a bigger engine. The amount of power they make isn't the issue, it's putting the power down. That's where concepts like Rumleys device come in. Speed in these cars is by how much drive they can get off the corner and it's constant battle to find more drive off.
Great setup yes but Ricky is a Wheelman he can drive anything and win in it.
@@KimiWallrusThat is insane lol
He definitely has something no one else has, which is Anthony Burroughs
I watched the Rumley video too.
My take was that if Rumley would've sold the "device" to the competition, we'd still be seeing it or a variation of it on all the late models today...imo
The fact that he refused to sell it, is what made it "illegal"...lol
Great video!
Nah I think anytime something like that is created there's 2 options: Everyone has to use it to compete, thus increasing costs. Or it gets banned
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I still think that even with rtj starting at the rear, if the race went caution free, i think he wouldn't of made it up front. The two cautions that happened before he left the race definitely helped him.
Yeah, for sure. He was still bad fast though...
@DIRTRACKR oh yeah, most definitely. Watching him do his thing from the exit of turn 4 was super entertaining
@@sweetdaddydee1314Looked good up in turn 1 too! Cheers!
Pierce's right rear was low before he took the lead.... then .... well
What exactly is goin on with sweet on the extracurricular activities Haven’t heard about that?
Brad Sweet and Kyle Larson new Sprint Car Series High Stakes... Large, mostly weekday purses with lots of ASCOC regulars and WOO drivers are allowed to compete in up to four events a year... Brad Sweet will be racing at Lernerville in a 50k to win race, along with Larson coming up... Brad is focusing on building this series, and spends a lot of time promoting and actually can be seen standing in the infield during every race he isn't entered in... Actually a Senior official.... That s the extracurricular activities... Dale Jr. will is going to be at the Lernerville event doing his radio show...
Rad Sweet's extracurricular activities? What is this about?
Brad Sweet and Kyle Larson new Sprint Car Series High Stakes... Large, mostly weekday purses with lots of ASCOC regulars and WOO drivers are allowed to compete in up to four events a year... Brad Sweet will be racing at Lernerville in a 50k to win race, along with Larson coming up... Brad is focusing on building this series, and spends a lot of time promoting and actually can be seen standing in the infield during every race he isn't entered in... Actually a Senior official.... That s the extracurricular activities...
who tagged Tanner Holms the Hammer? Thant doesn't even come close to describe his driving style. What about "Dirt Tracker" having an open poll coming up with a name that most fits his driving style. What about the "Jacksonville Comet?"
Who called him that? I missed it...
@@DIRTRACKR some guy on his RUclips channel. All his video titles are Tanner Holmes "The Hammer"
@@DIRTRACKR On the Bryce Moody channel he labeled the interview with Tanner Holmes on DirtVision - "The Hammer" Tanner Holmes.
Don’t waste your time watching “the device” video