This is why I like your reviews! The fact that you actually compare models in the same group (in this case, 7940HS) is useful for consumers and means your videos don't turn into glorified ad spots...unlike...cough...*ETA PRIME* cough. Also it's a shame you don't have Amazon Japan affiliate links (where I am) since I'd love to support the channel through my purchases from time to time.
Thank you. I just want to cover things I think are important but also point out any issues I have encounter. I've also heard some units have had reboot issues due to older bios version and bad RAM. I guess it's down to luck. Thanks for your support and no ad spots here :)
I thought it was just me who was annoyed by ETA Prime's shill videos. He's also obsessed with the idea that if a game cannot achieve 60fps on given hardware that it's unplayable even if the game, such as many of those running under emulation, were only designed for 30 fps on native hardware.
Thanks for the review Chris! Finally a stable Mini PC from Minisforum with very good performance. I'm thinking to get this one as soon as I catch a good deal
I have one Mini PC from them and I regret buying it. It was crashing all the time and after an endless conversation via Email I could send it back. Waiting now for 3 weeks... They told me to wait patiently... Never buy something from a company where the support is in China!
This was a super helpful review thank you for showing real time clock specs. So many people reviewing these don't reveal that and it's majorly helpful.
Thank you for this review. It would be nice if you could consider running some of the gaming benchmarks on a Arch Linux or rolling distribution under Steam with Vulkan instead of DirectX, you will probably notice an improvement in gaming FPS for many titles, and it would be a nice comparison with Windows 11.
Seems like a great mini PC to own but I won't be surprised if companies release mini PCs with more powerful Ryzen 9 7945HX3D in the next few months. Yes, it still has the same 780M iGPU but they could push more frames per second provided with more improved cooling system & perhaps Oculink port for faster eGPU support.
Yes I'm waiting for an Oculink Mini PC and with this chipset it would be crazy good. Goodbye tower PC as my dream set up is Mini PC + oculink external GPU.
The next variant of this unit (expected release by the end of the year), the UM790 XTX, will include an OcuLink port! I am hoping this feature becomes standard at least on the higher-end mini PCs. Hopefully on the Intel side of things Thunderbolt 5 will eliminate the bottlenecks associated with extGPU connections today. That said, iGPUs are getting better and better and should continue to improve such that in 2-3 years they may well fulfill most use-cases that require dGPUs today (especially as Intel switches to their new, tiled iGPU architecture).
This is the 2.nd review trhat make me buy a Mini Pc. The first I buy de T-Bao Mn4800 and now, when I expected for review of UM790 Pro I buy it and it's amazing. Out of this world. The best review! Thanks!
Did you ever solve the issue with the HDMI ports? I bought a lowend Beelink Ser5 5560U, which had the same issue on HDMI with 4K60hz. I tried different cables, I tried cabling directly to the tv, without going through the receiver and it kept blacking out for a few seconds. I reached out to Beelink support who gave me the most ridiculous pieces of advice. "Clean the ram", "Ensure the fan works", "Take a picture of the bios" etc. I really would like to know if it is my unit or if it just a China problem - or if it can be solved software-style (probably not). The pc will go back as the return window is still open.
I purchased the 64GB - 1TB version of this UM790PRO in August 2023 and love it thus far, snappy when opening about any applications, fast on ethernet to move files, video playback is smooth, even 4K from RUclips. I'd recommend to anyone looking for a smaller form factor device. I have a gaming PC for those purposes, this is more of a secondary or workday device, so I cannot comment on the FPS for gaming.
Exactly my use of this now. Second work PC and I have my desktop for the heavy stuff gaming and 4k video editing. Tha ks for the feedback on the UM790.
@@idk-yl1fb NOPE, i did do a reinstall of WIN 11 PRO to ensure all potential malware was removed, which my antivirus said it found none, but I did a clean install anyway, to be sure. Download the re-install instructions for NVME from minisforum, you do have to load a driver for the SSD to get it to be recognized by the installer.
@@dinerocarter Loaded up COD and it plays it on low settings, nothing to write home about. I want the new minisforum 890PRO with the external video dock and see how it does.
Much better review than that bias ETA Prime. Turned off from his videos lately even if he is first I prefer watching your take Chris. He is like LTT now seems very bias and does paid conent. I have also noticed or didn't before that he never mentions issues or problems at least you have.
I have recently placed an order for one of these devices from Amazon. I eagerly anticipate the opportunity to utilize it in conjunction with emulators.
Am I the only one who would prefer one of the USB4 ports to be on the back? Connecting a USB-C monitor, eGPU or whatever to the front just seems awkward....
Thanks for the video Chris. I was wondering if both NVME drives are bootable and if you can select which NVME drive to boot from in the BIOS? I always appreciate you testing Linux since that's the only OS I use 😃
The Beelink GTR7 throttling issues seems to have been fixed with a recent BIOS update. They're also releasing an updated bottom cover with better ventilation and fan. That said, I'd still get this one anyway. Smaller size, better cooling and cheaper price.
Good move as in the end while Beelink were good to fix this and offer the new bottom cover it really should have been there to start with. This has the better power plug standard easy to get, better cooling as my RAM was hitting 95 degrees C (Before the new bottom). Shame I got this review unit so late for some reason Minisforum didn't want my video in the first batch of them scared I would say something against it I guess, I did find the glitchy HDMI at 4k120. But enjoy the mini pc it's on of the best yet.
Beelink base cover is already released it's out and I have one. I actually installed one I had laser cut already and the ram doesn't go over 56c and the SSD no higher than 60c and the CPU 83c and GPU 73c is my highest. I haven't seen throttling I'm on v13 no reboots and I've done benchmarks yesterday my results on 7840hs benched higher than most reviewers gtr7 😯😁 95c isn't something the memory does and I suspect the high room temperatures had a big part in that outcome. Random reboot solutions are wip on the official forum. But heating, rebooting, throttling aren't anything I've seen.
My room temps are 24-25 degrees C with AC on it's not like i'm testing it outside in the sun 😁 I haven't tried the new bios as I go sick of the 2nd or 3rd still having random reboots and Beelink wouldn't replace the unit for me. Glad you're is working well. Great machine now it's all fixed up!
@@Techtablets I had heard it could have even been the ram, I have a theory it could have been a bad batch of memory involved who knows. I'm having a lot of fun with Ratchet & Clank never thought I'd run it on high and mixed very high settings with no upscale. I've been living the Intel iGPU life too long. I've got no plans to update the bios. Theres a video that got released yesturday on youtube all in Chinese but its showing what difference the baseplate can make, 14*c less for memory and ssd is a huge benefit.
Great that they did this. Sad it should have been like that from the get go and I wouldn't have had these issues. At least they were quick to correct the thermals and issue the new bottom plates.
I have one. Keep it on bios 1.03 (default from factory) thats a stable one. Minisforum had version 1.04 and 1.05 out but the took ik back because of randomly crashes. Bios 1.06 is coming in the a few weeks.
Very strange, installing the Displayport (USB-C) at the front and turning the USB-A ports at the backside upside down. Made by non-technicians 😂😂 Where ist,important Geekbench 6 compute result?😶🤯
This is the best size for me as I connect them on my huge living room 4K LG TV for gaming. What would be the best of the best and 24/24 started without fan (or very quiet) ? I don't mind of the prices. Thanks.
i bought a barebone UM790 from Amazon....as Chris said, no thermal issues, not too noisy(even on performance mode) but unplugging and plugging cable from the peripherals ends up with a restart in order to work as intended. Minisforum provides Windows and drivers from the site but in my experience made the mini PC sluggish and clunky(minis forum drivers apply only for Windows 11 for some unknown reason)
Maybe try the Minis form Win 11 image ? I've got no sluggish issues. Also try the bios update for some reason it's offline but should be up again soon.
Was a bios update, but they pulled down, probably because everyone was complaining about ( capping the CPU power)....i had a um 790 pro with first bios 1.03 and i can tell that was far better than actual 1.05 ....they capped CPU performance big time...anyway i don't like to depend on minis forum for software and drivers updates...i returned all of them already
I had this PC and returned. It would bluescreen multiple times a day. I saw some other commmenters on amazon with the same issue.... I'm rocking a gaming laptop instead, which i'm glad i purchased. However, i would probably get one of the ryzen z1 extreme handhelds over these mini PCs.... I no longer see the value in these mini-pcs.
I'm on the fence between the the UM790 Pro and the GTR 7 / 7 Pro. My main issue is that GTR 7 models aren't available on Amazon and GTR 7 Pro is hard to get from bee link (Sold out)
might be an overkill but this is the perfect machine for PlayStation 1 & 2 emulators. With 2 TB storage, you can have the complete PS retro collection of all time!
Ißve buyed one. Just like it whas delivered from MF. With 32GB of Memory and 1TB NVME. All this with Kingston Label. But i want something better and change to 64GB Memory and 1x 1TB and 1x 4TB NVME. All from SABRENT. The first Start needs several Hours over Night. The Memory was recognized (61.8GB) but the Hard Drive is restricted to 3TB. And someone told me that this is a known Problem which cant be solved. And helpfull Service from MF are not realy exist. I´ve installed Tiny11 as small as possible. Which runs fine. The Unit runs realy fast and very VERY quiet. But i dont try gaming. Because i´m not do gaming anyway.😀
Comparing the UM790Pro to the UM780 XTX we get the 7940HS vs 7840HS, no occulink vs occulink, 1x 2,5Gbps NIC vs 2. The vendor is offering the UM790 Pro as a replacement for my UM780 XTX which has stability issues. Wondering if it is worth the loss of oculink (I did get an eGpu) and the second NIC vs 100MHz speed bump...
tbh I'd much rather get the UN1265 with the i7-12650H for 216 eur cheaper (569 vs vs 349) despite personally preferring ryzens, unless you specifically need something which the UN1265 doesn't offer (don't know what that would be though).
I guess maybe if you wanted 64gb ram out of the box, then you might wanna get the UM790 Pro, but UN1265 also supports 64gb ram, you just can't configure it on the site.
Here is my experience with this. Bought a barebones and installed 64gb Ripjaws 5600Mhz, WD Black 1TB PCI-e 4.0 to fill it in. The Windows 11 download was pretty straightforward with the ISO provided on thier homepage. I use my PC for light work, browsing and watching a lot of video on it. All peripherals are connected via Bluetooth, but never in a million years came to a situation that USB SD Card readers devices are not recognised! This problem is also all over Redidt too. It's the 3rd day after writing to them and they've not responded yet. No resolution so far. If anyone has had a similar problem please mention a fix to this! So much for thier support. So future buyers beware about this problem.
Preface by saying, outstanding review, i.e., I am considering a purchase of this mini pc . . . Question though - were you able to resolve/fix the HDMI 2.1 issue at 4k120hz? In effect, I scrolled though most of the comments and I only saw one comment from you where you alluded to a BIOS upgrade seeming to fix the issue? Fast forward today, HAS THE ISSUE BEEN RESOLVED? Again, thank you for the excellent review!
@@Techtablets Thank you for the quick response! Follow-up - was it the BIOS upgrade (1.09 I think was the version?) that resolved the problem? Again, outstanding review, but more important, you seem to be one of the few pc reviewers that get back to your viewers, i.e., that's impressive!
4 days with it now I love it, thinking to switch it over as my main work pc for everything expect video editing and gaming (Got a RTX 4090 PC for that) The fan & cooling performance and everything is great. I hope a bios update can fix the HDMI 2.1 cutting in and out when running high refresh rates.
I would have liked to see ya turn up the ram for video to the full 6gb....Due to folks like me mostlly would be running 32gb of ram or at least 16gb and do not see a lot of multi tasking needing ram. I wonder how much better if any the fps would have been in gaing. Games have a mini and prefered game mem reauirements. The GTX 1650 had 4 gb and the GTX 1660 has 16 gb. i do not see that system not ver being as good as one of those cards when you are not matching the memory.
I have just had this model suggested to me. I am first and foremost an audio buff, and do NO gaming. How does this model stack up for high quality audio replay? I use multi K hi fi replay system
I bought the same model, but unfortunately it has a crashing problem. This seems to be quite widespread, but unfortunately no RUclips review actually addresses it.
My unit doesn't crash at all otherwise I would mention this like I did in the Beelink 7840HS and GMKTeck 7940HS reviews my issues with crashing and reboots. All I've found is issues with HDMI 2.1 ports at 4k120 cutting in and out. Maybe review units are golden units, there was a huge delay in me getting this. One unit got lost (apparently) like Minis Forums didn't want to send me it. Fianlly 2 months later I got it. I know one bias mini channel never mentions any issues ever he would have encountered and everything is always amazing go buy it etc. All to keep the review units and paychecks coming...
I look forward to your help. This time, I purchased a mini PC MINISFORUM UM790 PRO and installed 64G RAM. However, when I try to play a video on RUclips, there is a stuttering phenomenon. I don't know what the problem is. The monitor is using 2560*1600. Please help me. 나는 당신의 도움을 기대합니다. 이번에 미니PC MINISFORUM UM790 PRO를 구입해서 64G램을 달았습니다. 하지만 유투브에서 동영상을 실행 시켜보니 끊김 현상이 일어나고 있습니다. 무엇이 문제인지 알수 없습니다. 모니터는 2560*1600을 사용하고 있습니다. 제발 도와 주시기 바랍니다.
Hi, great review, I was just debating between the UM790 Pro and the GTR 7 Pro, after countless problems I saw with the GTR 7 Pro that crashes non-stop, I decided to go with the UM790 Pro, a simple question, if I want to upgrade the fan can I do it this?
HI, my GTR 7 Pro has been a huge pain in the arse always randomly rebooting even after countless bios updates. I gave up and just sold it recently so this is the unit to get I think. No issues with mine but some have had issues. Luck of the draw I guess. As for fan upgrades not possible for this little unit, but it's also not required.
Just bought the bare bones offer. Great bit of kit. The manual for the loading of Win 11 pro a little outdated. Using Rufus is a lot more reliable. Also note that with a single SSD you need to use the M2 slot above the wifi card. Found the wifi card was not great out the box. Needed to fiddle around with the setting before it worked as expected. Would recommend it especially at the price point.
Hi I changes so many things not sure which made the difference. I think switching channels made the most difference. I still have occasional poor performance periods@@ibaimunoz4400
Without knowing exactly what it is it's hard to say but it handles 4k video editing well and is very powerful as long as you don't need raw GPU power which is all this lacks.
I'm almost buying this one after having a gaming PC for many years. Currently I play on PS5 and I also used GeForce Now without an issue even on my i7-8700K. My only concern is if this would be good to use also as a Plex local server. I don't want to stream outside my LAN, only to my Chromecast with Google TV. Do you think that will work fine?
Oh dear just when I thought this was a good one. As my Beelink was suffereing from that issue and it was so annoying I gave up on it and sold it. Get support to sort you a replacement unit.
@@Techtablets Update: So i have this pc connected to 2 monitors...1x-4k, other one - 3440x1440p...turned 1440p off...no problems for more than an hour now...i suspect it might be the cable issue(hdmi)... if anybody have any answer, pls...i need them :) gonna get new-better cable and see what happens... don't want to blame this pc being faulty yet...all temps(ram,cpu,gpu) are perfect...
Hi, how do you think Flight Simulator 2020 can run with this UM790 PC? At what resolution? I thank you in advance for what you can help me choose. Thank you
It's odd that you were running the same games at 1080p on the last gen chipsets but are now having to go back to 720p for this machine with the more powerful igpu 🤔
I was running 1080p in GTA V same settings, but games like Cyberpunk it's better 720p more FPS so that's why I run with it as it is 60fps or over Vs 30-40 fps at 1080p which nobody wants to game with. I guess now I should have tested 1080p at least to show the difference.
Has anyone encountered data exchange problems between 2 devices connected to the USB ports? I purchased this product, it happens to me that by connecting 2 SSD devices in two ports of the mini PC, there is an incredible slowdown in data exchange. Has anyone encountered the same problem?
Great video mate! Have been following your videos for quite some time. What happens when you switch the Buffer to 6G and performance mode? Asking because I am planning to get one of these for work and having used R9 CPUs before I have confidence in their performance and stability for my use case. I am planning to build ML models for orbit dynamics sims.
@@Techtablets Interesting, thanks for answering. Just a follow-up, is there a noticeable increase in Single Core performance when the buffer gets increased or is it only for the graphics performance?
Hi there, i have one (32GBs/1TBs) and i have a restart/reboot with black screen everytime i let it idle with no activity. Under load no problem. I had crash watching videos with Chrome (seems to solved with latest AMD drivers), i had to disable hardware acceleration under Chrome. Bios 1.04 for me (performance mode, GFX VRAM to 4GBs), GFX/chipset drivers up to date. With bios 1.05 it was worst for reboot/restart, and TDP was locked to 45W only (even set to 54W or AUTO). With PSS disabled, my machine hanged every time, i had no choice except playng with the power button. Once stable, it could be a great machine, but here i feel like being a beta tester.
With all comparative tests done on mini-PCs, the Minisforum UM790 is the best for personal gaming using an integrated GPU on a mini-PC. It's less hot 🔥 than the it's previous model (UM690) too. I'd still pick the Beelink GTR7 due to the unique fingerprint reader and 2nd best gaming performance. Either one you cannot go wrong.
Beelink has a magnetic power supply, and I'm worried about whether it will be possible to buy a replacement if it breaks. Minisforum uses a classic connector.
@@Hogan4079 Using UM790Pro(1.04 BIOS) for two weeks. No restarts, no problems with RAM on full speed 5600MHz . Writing from it now. I'm using Linux Mint 21.2 with 6.2 kernel. 2x16GB RAM Kingston Fury CL40, SOLIDIGM P44 Pro 1TB SSD and removed WI-Fi card. I was afraid and expected certain problems, but nothing yet. My first choice was Asus PN53 but it is expensive and was out of stock for long time so I order this miniPC at the beginning of July.
So, just to be sure, and based on the picture that the manufacturer has on Amazon, does this have 2 fans? 1 with the heat pipes, and another one at the bottom?
Nice PC, but wish it had a full service USB-C port on the back so you could have just one USB cable from the PC to your monitor that supports powering devices.
Supports them. I tested my 4090 in a TB3 encloure it works and got 28k timespy, you can find here: www.3dmark.com/spy/40865551 (user techtablets) The reason it's not in my video I needed the gpu in my pc for screen capture and removing it back and forth is a pain.
I bought the UM790 Pro last week but had to return it yesterday because the Wifi stopped connecting after about 2 days of use. I contacted MinisForum and they were quick to respond, however, they could provide me with assistance to get the WiFi working again (they tried but it proved futile). I believe the plug in board failed and needed to be replaced. They didn't offer to replace the board or the unit itself so I had no choice but to return it. I would have loved to keep it because it was fast and powerful. I bought it to run Photoshop Elements 2024. Now I am skeptical of purchasing another unit. I will wait to see future reviews, etc.
Hi. This is my second time watching this video, love it. Could someone recommend buying "barebones" and upgrading the RAM / SSD or both to improve performance, or just leave stock standard? Any answer is much appreciated... thanks so much
Hi, I was considering picking one of these up or some other variant of it but planned to upgrade to a larger power supply and some custom cooling methods but I had 2 questions for you guys. 1) is there any way to remove the power limitation for the 7940HS in the bios? 2) What would be the best method of using an external GPU? or the least bottlenecked way.
Hi there is not way to remove it in the bios only set 54w. However there is universal x86 tuning utility which allows you to set higher tdp on each boot. As for eGPU I've done some testing at even set a world record for external GPUs with 3DMark timespy and my text 4090. The best is using Oculink 63gbps pcie 4.0 to eGPU. Thunderbolt gets 40 Gbps but it's actually less with the USB 4/TB overhead taking up some speed. However thunderbolt is the cleanest set up without having to the m.2 connection and loosing one m.2 slot.
Great review, but missing comparison. Please make a chart and compare minipcs with the latest models, the top products to make it easier to understand how well a minipc is performing - thanks!
@@Techtablets I pre-paid for 3 months and was one of their first customers to get the UM790 Pro in July. Then they said we only have 1 month to return the UM790 Pro. It gets HOT when on Sleep mode and I'm away for the day. Cools down when I start up the PC. It loses Audio after hours of use.
@@Techtablets I noticed several times that the Audio of the UM790 PRO begins to fail after long hours of use. Yesterday after 8 hours of daily use, Audio of RUclips videos began dropping in and out. At times the unit gets HOT when on sleep mode for extended periods like at night or when I'm not using it in the day. But it quickly cools down upon turning it back on. Their last email says they "can't afford" to pay for the return shipping cost but can pay half. Hummm
@@Techtablets i suggested that its a better Marketing decision for them to remotely access my UM790 PRO and troubleshoot the issue. Then if that fails they issue a Pre Paid Return Shipping Way Bill label.
Hiya. I am obviously late to the party, but is there any difference between this UM790 model as compared to the less expensive UM780, aside from the very slight clock bump? If note, since I will be Occulinking this to a 7900XTX, that clock bump is essentially irrelevant to me, I think. Arguments against this thought process?
Hi 👋 What’s better for gaming? “MINISFORUM Venus UM790 Pro Mini PC AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS up to 5.2 GHz 64 GB DDR5 1TB SSD with AMD Radeon 780M”……..or…… “MINISFORUM Neptune HX100G Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS 64GB DDR5 1TB SSD AMD Radeon RX 6650M Mini Gaming PC” Thanks 😝🤣👍
I have the UM790 Pro and I run MXLinux 23.1 with absolutely no issues whatsoever. Matter of fact, I just moved my M.2 2TB drive, "OS and all" into the UM790 Pro and it booted up with no issues whatsoever, It recognised all the Hardware and reconfigured itself for the new hardware. Granted, I was running a first gen Ryzen 5 with a radeon video card in my old PC.
@@IphoneSamsung-wv8or No, I pulled the m.2 HD with MXLinux installed on it out of my Desktop and installed it in my UM790 Pro and went into the UM790 Pro's bios and changed it to boot from it. and it booted with no errors or issues. as if I installed it from scratch.
@@IphoneSamsung-wv8or I'm sorry, I don't quite understand? The UM790 Pro is a standalone computer. essentially a PC in tiny form. When you say "connect" to a laptop, do you mean network the two computers together? or do you mean something else?
I googled and binged but still can't wrap my head around it. Do these perform as well as their laptop counterparts? Do they have similar longevity? The performance:price ratio is absurd. Even after seeing several positive reviews, it still seems too good to be true.
They perform the same as they are laptop chipsets. Some people have had random reboots and powering off with some units due to bad RAM. But they are normally fine and longevity no issue. I even use the UM780 XTX has my main desktop PC now and no issues performance is great.
Can you test at a higher tdp for a future video im curious to see the results … Also what would be the best way to power this up remotely via a wireless keyboard etc …. Also if you attach vesa mount does it block the fan ventilation on the bottom ?
Hi, I did test higher TDP today and I see no difference really at all. Still hits 49W max running Cinebench even when set to 54W. The fan with the VESA mount isn't blocked half is still open, doubt it will make too much of a difference a few degrees more.
Okay I updated the bios to 1.04 and I could up to TDP to even 70W the cooling was fine. No real increase in performance barely really not worth it. You can overclock the 780M clocks but the gain is 3-5% really faster RAM is what it needs. If only the Kingston 6400Mhz DDR5 kit would work...
This is why I like your reviews! The fact that you actually compare models in the same group (in this case, 7940HS) is useful for consumers and means your videos don't turn into glorified ad spots...unlike...cough...*ETA PRIME* cough. Also it's a shame you don't have Amazon Japan affiliate links (where I am) since I'd love to support the channel through my purchases from time to time.
Thank you. I just want to cover things I think are important but also point out any issues I have encounter. I've also heard some units have had reboot issues due to older bios version and bad RAM. I guess it's down to luck. Thanks for your support and no ad spots here :)
I thought it was just me who was annoyed by ETA Prime's shill videos. He's also obsessed with the idea that if a game cannot achieve 60fps on given hardware that it's unplayable even if the game, such as many of those running under emulation, were only designed for 30 fps on native hardware.
@@ferrellsl ETA Prime's shill videos
We appreciate your reviews. Keep working hard as always.
Thanks, will do!
Thanks for the review Chris! Finally a stable Mini PC from Minisforum with very good performance. I'm thinking to get this one as soon as I catch a good deal
Well worth it, in my eyes this is now the best mini pc (Without dGPU)
I have one Mini PC from them and I regret buying it. It was crashing all the time and after an endless conversation via Email I could send it back. Waiting now for 3 weeks... They told me to wait patiently... Never buy something from a company where the support is in China!
That's unacceptable!
This was a super helpful review thank you for showing real time clock specs. So many people reviewing these don't reveal that and it's majorly helpful.
Thank you for this review. It would be nice if you could consider running some of the gaming benchmarks on a Arch Linux or rolling distribution under Steam with Vulkan instead of DirectX, you will probably notice an improvement in gaming FPS for many titles, and it would be a nice comparison with Windows 11.
This was a good review, it does help me in making a Decsion to Buy this Unit. Thanks
Seems like a great mini PC to own but I won't be surprised if companies release mini PCs with more powerful Ryzen 9 7945HX3D in the next few months. Yes, it still has the same 780M iGPU but they could push more frames per second provided with more improved cooling system & perhaps Oculink port for faster eGPU support.
Yes I'm waiting for an Oculink Mini PC and with this chipset it would be crazy good. Goodbye tower PC as my dream set up is Mini PC + oculink external GPU.
You are wrong, Ryzen 9 7945HX3D uses AMD Radeon™ 610M, not the 780M. Minisforum will release a new mini pc with Oculink port.
The next variant of this unit (expected release by the end of the year), the UM790 XTX, will include an OcuLink port! I am hoping this feature becomes standard at least on the higher-end mini PCs. Hopefully on the Intel side of things Thunderbolt 5 will eliminate the bottlenecks associated with extGPU connections today. That said, iGPUs are getting better and better and should continue to improve such that in 2-3 years they may well fulfill most use-cases that require dGPUs today (especially as Intel switches to their new, tiled iGPU architecture).
The oculink version will come out in Nov this year. Please review it !!!
@@MaxPower-11thunderbolt 5 pc won't be out until 2025.
This is the 2.nd review trhat make me buy a Mini Pc. The first I buy de T-Bao Mn4800 and now, when I expected for review of UM790 Pro I buy it and it's amazing. Out of this world. The best review! Thanks!
Thanks, yes this PC is great and today I have another if you want to game at 1080p with it.
Did you ever solve the issue with the HDMI ports? I bought a lowend Beelink Ser5 5560U, which had the same issue on HDMI with 4K60hz. I tried different cables, I tried cabling directly to the tv, without going through the receiver and it kept blacking out for a few seconds. I reached out to Beelink support who gave me the most ridiculous pieces of advice. "Clean the ram", "Ensure the fan works", "Take a picture of the bios" etc. I really would like to know if it is my unit or if it just a China problem - or if it can be solved software-style (probably not). The pc will go back as the return window is still open.
Anyway - I returned it today. Now I'll run my Batocera on my 7800x3d / 4090 rig. Maybe an excess of power-use, but probably most stuff will run.
I purchased the 64GB - 1TB version of this UM790PRO in August 2023 and love it thus far, snappy when opening about any applications, fast on ethernet to move files, video playback is smooth, even 4K from RUclips. I'd recommend to anyone looking for a smaller form factor device. I have a gaming PC for those purposes, this is more of a secondary or workday device, so I cannot comment on the FPS for gaming.
Exactly my use of this now. Second work PC and I have my desktop for the heavy stuff gaming and 4k video editing. Tha ks for the feedback on the UM790.
7 months after your comment, im planning to buy the UM790 PRO, have you had any issues with it as of now?
@@idk-yl1fb NOPE, i did do a reinstall of WIN 11 PRO to ensure all potential malware was removed, which my antivirus said it found none, but I did a clean install anyway, to be sure. Download the re-install instructions for NVME from minisforum, you do have to load a driver for the SSD to get it to be recognized by the installer.
@@hackatakhaving you tried gaming on it yet ? I want to get it to play gta lol
@@dinerocarter Loaded up COD and it plays it on low settings, nothing to write home about. I want the new minisforum 890PRO with the external video dock and see how it does.
Thank you so much! Best reviewer!
My pleasure!
Much better review than that bias ETA Prime. Turned off from his videos lately even if he is first I prefer watching your take Chris. He is like LTT now seems very bias and does paid conent. I have also noticed or didn't before that he never mentions issues or problems at least you have.
I have recently placed an order for one of these devices from Amazon. I eagerly anticipate the opportunity to utilize it in conjunction with emulators.
How's it working out?
Am I the only one who would prefer one of the USB4 ports to be on the back? Connecting a USB-C monitor, eGPU or whatever to the front just seems awkward....
Yes would prefer them on the back with two USB type a and maybe two USB 3.2 type A on the front for quick flash drive plug in etc .
Thanks for the great review. How is the power usage?
Thanks for the video Chris. I was wondering if both NVME drives are bootable and if you can select which NVME drive to boot from in the BIOS? I always appreciate you testing Linux since that's the only OS I use 😃
You can yes. Yes on both.
The Beelink GTR7 throttling issues seems to have been fixed with a recent BIOS update. They're also releasing an updated bottom cover with better ventilation and fan. That said, I'd still get this one anyway. Smaller size, better cooling and cheaper price.
Good move as in the end while Beelink were good to fix this and offer the new bottom cover it really should have been there to start with. This has the better power plug standard easy to get, better cooling as my RAM was hitting 95 degrees C (Before the new bottom). Shame I got this review unit so late for some reason Minisforum didn't want my video in the first batch of them scared I would say something against it I guess, I did find the glitchy HDMI at 4k120. But enjoy the mini pc it's on of the best yet.
Beelink base cover is already released it's out and I have one. I actually installed one I had laser cut already and the ram doesn't go over 56c and the SSD no higher than 60c and the CPU 83c and GPU 73c is my highest. I haven't seen throttling I'm on v13 no reboots and I've done benchmarks yesterday my results on 7840hs benched higher than most reviewers gtr7 😯😁 95c isn't something the memory does and I suspect the high room temperatures had a big part in that outcome. Random reboot solutions are wip on the official forum. But heating, rebooting, throttling aren't anything I've seen.
My room temps are 24-25 degrees C with AC on it's not like i'm testing it outside in the sun 😁 I haven't tried the new bios as I go sick of the 2nd or 3rd still having random reboots and Beelink wouldn't replace the unit for me. Glad you're is working well. Great machine now it's all fixed up!
@@Techtablets I had heard it could have even been the ram, I have a theory it could have been a bad batch of memory involved who knows. I'm having a lot of fun with Ratchet & Clank never thought I'd run it on high and mixed very high settings with no upscale. I've been living the Intel iGPU life too long. I've got no plans to update the bios. Theres a video that got released yesturday on youtube all in Chinese but its showing what difference the baseplate can make, 14*c less for memory and ssd is a huge benefit.
Great that they did this. Sad it should have been like that from the get go and I wouldn't have had these issues. At least they were quick to correct the thermals and issue the new bottom plates.
Keep up with the brilliant job! I've been following you since 2012. By the way... How do you like it in Spain?
Thanks I have another mini pc review today which is the best yet. I love Spain, bee here half my life, my wife is from here.
I have one. Keep it on bios 1.03 (default from factory) thats a stable one. Minisforum had version 1.04 and 1.05 out but the took ik back because of randomly crashes. Bios 1.06 is coming in the a few weeks.
Mines on 1.01 random crashes. Okay that explains why there are no updates in the support page.
I have one and it's fantastic mini PC. Silent and powerfull. I'm very happy playing games with this beast!
Great to hear!
What games have you played and finished on that mini PC so far, friend?
God of war, Uncharted 4, and lot of games in PS3 PS2 and PS2 emulators. And God of war I play in ultra mode graphics.
That is awesome. Thanks for sharing friend!@@jbote2068
Very strange, installing the Displayport (USB-C) at the front and turning the USB-A ports at the backside upside down. Made by non-technicians 😂😂 Where ist,important Geekbench 6 compute result?😶🤯
Very useful once again, Chris. This unit seems to have almost everything.
Indeed it does!
This is the best size for me as I connect them on my huge living room 4K LG TV for gaming. What would be the best of the best and 24/24 started without fan (or very quiet) ? I don't mind of the prices. Thanks.
i bought a barebone UM790 from Amazon....as Chris said, no thermal issues, not too noisy(even on performance mode) but unplugging and plugging cable from the peripherals ends up with a restart in order to work as intended. Minisforum provides Windows and drivers from the site but in my experience made the mini PC sluggish and clunky(minis forum drivers apply only for Windows 11 for some unknown reason)
Maybe try the Minis form Win 11 image ? I've got no sluggish issues. Also try the bios update for some reason it's offline but should be up again soon.
Was a bios update, but they pulled down, probably because everyone was complaining about ( capping the CPU power)....i had a um 790 pro with first bios 1.03 and i can tell that was far better than actual 1.05 ....they capped CPU performance big time...anyway i don't like to depend on minis forum for software and drivers updates...i returned all of them already
I had this PC and returned. It would bluescreen multiple times a day. I saw some other commmenters on amazon with the same issue.... I'm rocking a gaming laptop instead, which i'm glad i purchased. However, i would probably get one of the ryzen z1 extreme handhelds over these mini PCs.... I no longer see the value in these mini-pcs.
really useful review, just bought one of these, unfortunately before i saw this so couldnt use your affliate link
No worries! It's a shame I got this so late for some reason.
I'm on the fence between the the UM790 Pro and the GTR 7 / 7 Pro. My main issue is that GTR 7 models aren't available on Amazon and GTR 7 Pro is hard to get from bee link (Sold out)
FYI: Minisforum has terrible customer support. Buyer beware.
might be an overkill but this is the perfect machine for PlayStation 1 & 2 emulators. With 2 TB storage, you can have the complete PS retro collection of all time!
Overkill for sure, would run them perfect.
Some other channel has already tested it. This mini pc runs PS1 PS2 and Nintendo emulators perfectly.
Yeah no brainer really as the don't need supers hardware. PS3, Switch and others need a bit more power.
And the best part, older mini PCs are getting cheaper like 6900HX 680M mini Pc for 220$ used if luck is on you side😅
True!
Excellent! Thanks for testing Linux as well.
Its going to be amazing to see what FSR 3 does to the performance of these units, from what I am seeing from the mod.
Got a unit ..arrived today, the antenna wires no longer on the buttom - Design is cleaner this way
Ißve buyed one. Just like it whas delivered from MF. With 32GB of Memory and 1TB NVME.
All this with Kingston Label. But i want something better and change to
64GB Memory and 1x 1TB and 1x 4TB NVME. All from SABRENT.
The first Start needs several Hours over Night.
The Memory was recognized (61.8GB) but the Hard Drive is restricted to 3TB.
And someone told me that this is a known Problem which cant be solved.
And helpfull Service from MF are not realy exist.
I´ve installed Tiny11 as small as possible. Which runs fine.
The Unit runs realy fast and very VERY quiet.
But i dont try gaming. Because i´m not do gaming anyway.😀
Comparing the UM790Pro to the UM780 XTX we get the 7940HS vs 7840HS, no occulink vs occulink, 1x 2,5Gbps NIC vs 2. The vendor is offering the UM790 Pro as a replacement for my UM780 XTX which has stability issues. Wondering if it is worth the loss of oculink (I did get an eGpu) and the second NIC vs 100MHz speed bump...
Is an external Graphic Card (e.g. Nvidia 4060) connectable with the Minisforum UM790 via Thunderbolt 4 / USB4 through eGPU docking station?
tbh I'd much rather get the UN1265 with the i7-12650H for 216 eur cheaper (569 vs vs 349) despite personally preferring ryzens, unless you specifically need something which the UN1265 doesn't offer (don't know what that would be though).
I guess maybe if you wanted 64gb ram out of the box, then you might wanna get the UM790 Pro, but UN1265 also supports 64gb ram, you just can't configure it on the site.
Here is my experience with this. Bought a barebones and installed 64gb Ripjaws 5600Mhz, WD Black 1TB PCI-e 4.0 to fill it in. The Windows 11 download was pretty straightforward with the ISO provided on thier homepage. I use my PC for light work, browsing and watching a lot of video on it. All peripherals are connected via Bluetooth, but never in a million years came to a situation that USB SD Card readers devices are not recognised! This problem is also all over Redidt too. It's the 3rd day after writing to them and they've not responded yet. No resolution so far. If anyone has had a similar problem please mention a fix to this! So much for thier support. So future buyers beware about this problem.
Preface by saying, outstanding review, i.e., I am considering a purchase of this mini pc . . . Question though - were you able to resolve/fix the HDMI 2.1 issue at 4k120hz? In effect, I scrolled though most of the comments and I only saw one comment from you where you alluded to a BIOS upgrade seeming to fix the issue? Fast forward today, HAS THE ISSUE BEEN RESOLVED? Again, thank you for the excellent review!
Yes it was fixed I can run 4k120 no issues.
@@Techtablets Thank you for the quick response! Follow-up - was it the BIOS upgrade (1.09 I think was the version?) that resolved the problem? Again, outstanding review, but more important, you seem to be one of the few pc reviewers that get back to your viewers, i.e., that's impressive!
The iGPU in my Hades canyon gets a higher Timespy scoe than the 780M (in a Minisforum v3, performance AC mode). I was surprised by that.
Pitty they dont ship your paid for products. Waiting for 2 months now, no replies or answers, no orderstatus changes, nothing. Money gone im afraid...
Thanks to your reviews of other minis forum PCs I bought my own and I'm very happy with it!
Great to hear!
I also bought it and came to me last week, until now it is perfect, cool and stable!
4 days with it now I love it, thinking to switch it over as my main work pc for everything expect video editing and gaming (Got a RTX 4090 PC for that) The fan & cooling performance and everything is great. I hope a bios update can fix the HDMI 2.1 cutting in and out when running high refresh rates.
Could also be the cable that minis forum send with this minipc, maybe try another working HDMI 2.1 cable?@@Techtablets
How is it after 8 months?
I would have liked to see ya turn up the ram for video to the full 6gb....Due to folks like me mostlly would be running 32gb of ram or at least 16gb and do not see a lot of multi tasking needing ram. I wonder how much better if any the fps would have been in gaing. Games have a mini and prefered game mem reauirements. The GTX 1650 had 4 gb and the GTX 1660 has 16 gb. i do not see that system not ver being as good as one of those cards when you are not matching the memory.
I have just had this model suggested to me. I am first and foremost an audio buff, and do NO gaming. How does this model stack up for high quality audio replay? I use multi K hi fi replay system
Chris never disappoints, great review brother.
Thanks for this thorough review. How did you enter the Bios menu?
I just bought it (April 2024) but it comes with Windows home (why ??).
I bought the same model, but unfortunately it has a crashing problem. This seems to be quite widespread, but unfortunately no RUclips review actually addresses it.
My unit doesn't crash at all otherwise I would mention this like I did in the Beelink 7840HS and GMKTeck 7940HS reviews my issues with crashing and reboots. All I've found is issues with HDMI 2.1 ports at 4k120 cutting in and out. Maybe review units are golden units, there was a huge delay in me getting this. One unit got lost (apparently) like Minis Forums didn't want to send me it. Fianlly 2 months later I got it. I know one bias mini channel never mentions any issues ever he would have encountered and everything is always amazing go buy it etc. All to keep the review units and paychecks coming...
I look forward to your help.
This time, I purchased a mini PC MINISFORUM UM790 PRO and installed 64G RAM. However, when I try to play a video on RUclips, there is a stuttering phenomenon.
I don't know what the problem is. The monitor is using 2560*1600. Please help me.
나는 당신의 도움을 기대합니다.
이번에 미니PC MINISFORUM UM790 PRO를 구입해서 64G램을 달았습니다. 하지만 유투브에서 동영상을 실행 시켜보니 끊김 현상이 일어나고 있습니다.
무엇이 문제인지 알수 없습니다. 모니터는 2560*1600을 사용하고 있습니다. 제발 도와 주시기 바랍니다.
Hi, great review, I was just debating between the UM790 Pro and the GTR 7 Pro, after countless problems I saw with the GTR 7 Pro that crashes non-stop, I decided to go with the UM790 Pro, a simple question, if I want to upgrade the fan can I do it this?
HI, my GTR 7 Pro has been a huge pain in the arse always randomly rebooting even after countless bios updates. I gave up and just sold it recently so this is the unit to get I think. No issues with mine but some have had issues. Luck of the draw I guess. As for fan upgrades not possible for this little unit, but it's also not required.
Did anybody test the WiFi for performance, saw a video on geekom with similar specs having poor connection for some reason
Just bought the bare bones offer. Great bit of kit. The manual for the loading of Win 11 pro a little outdated. Using Rufus is a lot more reliable. Also note that with a single SSD you need to use the M2 slot above the wifi card. Found the wifi card was not great out the box. Needed to fiddle around with the setting before it worked as expected. Would recommend it especially at the price point.
Thanks for sharing!!
What changes have you made to the settings? I am experiencing some abysmal Wi-Fi performance and have had no luck with my tweaks so far.
Hi I changes so many things not sure which made the difference. I think switching channels made the most difference. I still have occasional poor performance periods@@ibaimunoz4400
How does this thing handle music production and heavy thirsty plugins? I have a i7 now that can't handle anything
Without knowing exactly what it is it's hard to say but it handles 4k video editing well and is very powerful as long as you don't need raw GPU power which is all this lacks.
Thank you for the great review. Any plans for a 2024 review?
Its a older video, but hope my message gets to you: Would you recommend this one over the UM780 XTX?
Looking good but I’m waiting for meteor lake to see whether I’ll go with MTL or the 7940HS.
I'm almost buying this one after having a gaming PC for many years. Currently I play on PS5 and I also used GeForce Now without an issue even on my i7-8700K. My only concern is if this would be good to use also as a Plex local server. I don't want to stream outside my LAN, only to my Chromecast with Google TV. Do you think that will work fine?
I must be the unlucky one. Have same PC. Get random reboots and freezes...sometimes every 5min.sometimes takes 30min.
Oh dear just when I thought this was a good one. As my Beelink was suffereing from that issue and it was so annoying I gave up on it and sold it. Get support to sort you a replacement unit.
@@Techtablets Update: So i have this pc connected to 2 monitors...1x-4k, other one - 3440x1440p...turned 1440p off...no problems for more than an hour now...i suspect it might be the cable issue(hdmi)... if anybody have any answer, pls...i need them :) gonna get new-better cable and see what happens... don't want to blame this pc being faulty yet...all temps(ram,cpu,gpu) are perfect...
That's concerning....; at least 4-5 posts in the comments here with folks w/ the same issue; enough to dissuade me from buying one.
Does linux come with drivers for the GPU?
Awesome review, you make easy to understand
Hi, how do you think Flight Simulator 2020 can run with this UM790 PC? At what resolution? I thank you in advance for what you can help me choose. Thank you
pretty cool video, hey you think the UM790 Pro is better than the HX99G, for 3d software ? thanks !
Yes, definitely as it has the 6600M better for GPU for 3d work.
@@Techtablets so the HX99G for the win here ? thankls
It's odd that you were running the same games at 1080p on the last gen chipsets but are now having to go back to 720p for this machine with the more powerful igpu 🤔
I was running 1080p in GTA V same settings, but games like Cyberpunk it's better 720p more FPS so that's why I run with it as it is 60fps or over Vs 30-40 fps at 1080p which nobody wants to game with. I guess now I should have tested 1080p at least to show the difference.
@@Techtablets I see. Just a little disappointing, was expecting to see more of an improvement I guess.
@@mrchico2621 You can swap the ram with a higher frequency model.
Nothing over 5600mhz will work in my testing.
@@Techtablets Were you using higher spec of ram or trying to overclock the current one?
Getting this for my main driver for some Adobe Illustrator work. My Mac doesn't have drivers for my main print machine unfortunately.
Hi. Anyone knows how to set in bios for this unit to start at a certain hour? Thank you
which is fastest for general computing.. Their 7940 or the occulink mini pc? I don't care about external graphics
Has anyone encountered data exchange problems between 2 devices connected to the USB ports? I purchased this product, it happens to me that by connecting 2 SSD devices in two ports of the mini PC, there is an incredible slowdown in data exchange. Has anyone encountered the same problem?
I want to thank you for showing more graphically demanding games for the hardware you review.
You're welcome
Does it support eGPUs and have options for resizable bar and 4G decode in the bios? Fantastic review BTW. 🙏🏾
Never disappoint with your reviews
17 min video with all that talking but no mention of build quality. Metal? Plastic? Does it squeak when pushed down on?
because it seems like maybe 90k people don't care but you? Who's sitting there constantly pressing on their PC case? lol
Great video mate! Have been following your videos for quite some time. What happens when you switch the Buffer to 6G and performance mode? Asking because I am planning to get one of these for work and having used R9 CPUs before I have confidence in their performance and stability for my use case. I am planning to build ML models for orbit dynamics sims.
Hi, what I've noticed is it will make gaming a little smoother high 1% lows. Also for video editing it seems to help a little smooth out the timeline.
@@Techtablets Interesting, thanks for answering. Just a follow-up, is there a noticeable increase in Single Core performance when the buffer gets increased or is it only for the graphics performance?
Hi there,
i have one (32GBs/1TBs) and i have a restart/reboot with black screen everytime i let it idle with no activity.
Under load no problem.
I had crash watching videos with Chrome (seems to solved with latest AMD drivers), i had to disable hardware acceleration under Chrome.
Bios 1.04 for me (performance mode, GFX VRAM to 4GBs), GFX/chipset drivers up to date.
With bios 1.05 it was worst for reboot/restart, and TDP was locked to 45W only (even set to 54W or AUTO).
With PSS disabled, my machine hanged every time, i had no choice except playng with the power button.
Once stable, it could be a great machine, but here i feel like being a beta tester.
With all comparative tests done on mini-PCs, the Minisforum UM790 is the best for personal gaming using an integrated GPU on a mini-PC. It's less hot 🔥 than the it's previous model (UM690) too.
I'd still pick the Beelink GTR7 due to the unique fingerprint reader and 2nd best gaming performance. Either one you cannot go wrong.
Beelink has a magnetic power supply, and I'm worried about whether it will be possible to buy a replacement if it breaks.
Minisforum uses a classic connector.
@@Hogan4079 Using UM790Pro(1.04 BIOS) for two weeks. No restarts, no problems with RAM on full speed 5600MHz . Writing from it now. I'm using Linux Mint 21.2 with 6.2 kernel. 2x16GB RAM Kingston Fury CL40, SOLIDIGM P44 Pro 1TB SSD and removed WI-Fi card. I was afraid and expected certain problems, but nothing yet. My first choice was Asus PN53 but it is expensive and was out of stock for long time so I order this miniPC at the beginning of July.
So, just to be sure, and based on the picture that the manufacturer has on Amazon, does this have 2 fans? 1 with the heat pipes, and another one at the bottom?
Nice PC, but wish it had a full service USB-C port on the back so you could have just one USB cable from the PC to your monitor that supports powering devices.
Anyone know what the maximum capacity of each of the M.2 slots one and two on the UM790 Pro and UM780 XTX?
No external gpu support? disappointing.
Supports them. I tested my 4090 in a TB3 encloure it works and got 28k timespy, you can find here: www.3dmark.com/spy/40865551 (user techtablets)
The reason it's not in my video I needed the gpu in my pc for screen capture and removing it back and forth is a pain.
I bought the UM790 Pro last week but had to return it yesterday because the Wifi stopped connecting after about 2 days of use. I contacted MinisForum and they were quick to respond, however, they could provide me with assistance to get the WiFi working again (they tried but it proved futile). I believe the plug in board failed and needed to be replaced. They didn't offer to replace the board or the unit itself so I had no choice but to return it. I would have loved to keep it because it was fast and powerful. I bought it to run Photoshop Elements 2024. Now I am skeptical of purchasing another unit. I will wait to see future reviews, etc.
Any thoughts how the Minisforum UM790 compares to UM690 or other popular Mini-PCs from Beelink..or ASRock Industrial (ex. BOX-7735U )?
Why does the Minisforum UM790 Pro give static noise problem when scrolling a Web page or changing between RUclips videos?
😍
I would choose barebone option
Good move and then you can get a faster PCIe 4.0 SSD
Hi. This is my second time watching this video, love it. Could someone recommend buying "barebones" and upgrading the RAM / SSD or both to improve performance, or just leave stock standard? Any answer is much appreciated... thanks so much
Fast RAM timing might help but it's not worth it. SSD speeds yes.
@@Techtablets thanks so much 😄
Hi, I was considering picking one of these up or some other variant of it but planned to upgrade to a larger power supply and some custom cooling methods but I had 2 questions for you guys. 1) is there any way to remove the power limitation for the 7940HS in the bios? 2) What would be the best method of using an external GPU? or the least bottlenecked way.
Hi there is not way to remove it in the bios only set 54w. However there is universal x86 tuning utility which allows you to set higher tdp on each boot. As for eGPU I've done some testing at even set a world record for external GPUs with 3DMark timespy and my text 4090. The best is using Oculink 63gbps pcie 4.0 to eGPU. Thunderbolt gets 40 Gbps but it's actually less with the USB 4/TB overhead taking up some speed. However thunderbolt is the cleanest set up without having to the m.2 connection and loosing one m.2 slot.
The GEEKOM A7 goes up to 1745 with cinebanch 23
Amazing review, love it.. good work mate. Can I change the stock fans with any Noctua fans? Thank you!🤞🏼👌🏼🙃
Not that I know of don’t think they would fit
@@Techtablets thank you, how good is the 2.5Gb lan speed and how fast can you export 250 edited raw photos from last lightroom classic?
Great review, but missing comparison. Please make a chart and compare minipcs with the latest models, the top products to make it easier to understand how well a minipc is performing - thanks!
Thank you for your review! Looking to order this one though I don't know if it would fit a double sided NVME SSDs. Would you know if it fits?
Minisforum wants their Customer to Pay Shipment $200 to $300 to Return a Defective UM790 Pro
Minisforum should send their Customer a Pre Paid Way Bill
Wow really??? That's absurd 😬
@@Techtablets I pre-paid for 3 months and was one of their first customers to get the UM790 Pro in July. Then they said we only have 1 month to return the UM790 Pro.
It gets HOT when on Sleep mode and I'm away for the day. Cools down when I start up the PC. It loses Audio after hours of use.
Crazy well I have none of those issues but then again it's a review unit, no doubt hand picked by them to be trouble free and perfect.
@@Techtablets I noticed several times that the Audio of the UM790 PRO begins to fail after long hours of use. Yesterday after 8 hours of daily use, Audio of RUclips videos began dropping in and out. At times the unit gets HOT when on sleep mode for extended periods like at night or when I'm not using it in the day. But it quickly cools down upon turning it back on. Their last email says they "can't afford" to pay for the return shipping cost but can pay half. Hummm
@@Techtablets i suggested that its a better Marketing decision for them to remotely access my UM790 PRO and troubleshoot the issue. Then if that fails they issue a Pre Paid Return Shipping Way Bill label.
4k gaming?
Hiya. I am obviously late to the party, but is there any difference between this UM790 model as compared to the less expensive UM780, aside from the very slight clock bump? If note, since I will be Occulinking this to a 7900XTX, that clock bump is essentially irrelevant to me, I think. Arguments against this thought process?
This one or the h99 minisforum for gaming ?
Hi 👋
What’s better for gaming?
“MINISFORUM Venus UM790 Pro Mini PC AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS up to 5.2 GHz 64 GB DDR5 1TB SSD with AMD Radeon 780M”……..or……
“MINISFORUM Neptune HX100G Mini PC AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS 64GB DDR5 1TB SSD AMD Radeon RX 6650M Mini Gaming PC”
Thanks 😝🤣👍
HX100G and I'm working on my video of it.
@@Techtablets thanks 😁
You're welcome.
What about running hot? Can i use it with resolve 18.6 for video editing
Need bigger fan.
Which one is better performance ?
Beelink GTR7 pro (7940HS )
Minisforum UM790 pro (7940HS )
GMKtec K4 (7940HS )
Morefine M600 pro (7940HS )
I can't speak for the M600 Pro as I never got sent one but this is the best yet. I had issues with the GTR7 Pro thermals and the GMKtec.
Any airflow issues when you use the VESA mount?
I have the UM790 Pro and I run MXLinux 23.1 with absolutely no issues whatsoever. Matter of fact, I just moved my M.2 2TB drive, "OS and all" into the UM790 Pro and it booted up with no issues whatsoever, It recognised all the Hardware and reconfigured itself for the new hardware. Granted, I was running a first gen Ryzen 5 with a radeon video card in my old PC.
do u mean u connected mini pc to a ryzen 5 laptop and it is working fine?
@@IphoneSamsung-wv8or No, I pulled the m.2 HD with MXLinux installed on it out of my Desktop and installed it in my UM790 Pro and went into the UM790 Pro's bios and changed it to boot from it. and it booted with no errors or issues. as if I installed it from scratch.
are you using desktop? i want to know if i can connect it using my laptop??
@@IphoneSamsung-wv8or I'm sorry, I don't quite understand? The UM790 Pro is a standalone computer. essentially a PC in tiny form. When you say "connect" to a laptop, do you mean network the two computers together? or do you mean something else?
i wanted to know how to use this mini pc?? im young man idk much so pls say@@LanceD188
I googled and binged but still can't wrap my head around it. Do these perform as well as their laptop counterparts? Do they have similar longevity? The performance:price ratio is absurd. Even after seeing several positive reviews, it still seems too good to be true.
They perform the same as they are laptop chipsets. Some people have had random reboots and powering off with some units due to bad RAM. But they are normally fine and longevity no issue. I even use the UM780 XTX has my main desktop PC now and no issues performance is great.
is this durable? better than gmktech ryzen 9 nucbox?
Can you test at a higher tdp for a future video im curious to see the results … Also what would be the best way to power this up remotely via a wireless keyboard etc …. Also if you attach vesa mount does it block the fan ventilation on the bottom ?
Hi, I did test higher TDP today and I see no difference really at all. Still hits 49W max running Cinebench even when set to 54W. The fan with the VESA mount isn't blocked half is still open, doubt it will make too much of a difference a few degrees more.
@@Techtablets thx and last question is there a way I can power this up remotely via keyboard… Bluetooth etc
I haven't looked into it, but I believe so, power it up over LAN or Wifi.
Okay I updated the bios to 1.04 and I could up to TDP to even 70W the cooling was fine. No real increase in performance barely really not worth it. You can overclock the 780M clocks but the gain is 3-5% really faster RAM is what it needs. If only the Kingston 6400Mhz DDR5 kit would work...