5:17, when you were talkin about emulating fighting styles, ya did it really well, it's hard without weight... Hema tip tho: never strike vertically (straight up and down) always slash at and angle, it will let you line up another attack or stab easier, as well as making it harder to counter attack. (I am aware I sound like an idiot)
Exactly! There’s much more of a traditional learning curve with this game. Learning those attack patterns helps you know when to block, or parry, or strike back. As opposed to just exploiting the janky physics to push over everyone lol
yeah i love blade and sorcery but the gameplay meta of "just grab or push them over" gets very old very fast. I tried a 2.5x hp mod and the issue of the enemies all being LITERAL pushovers makes it too easy, I chop with a sword and it either does almost nothing or it completely immobilizes them and they fall over full ragdoll mode
what? the enemies spam the same attacks skeletons do a combo that stun locks you until you get a perfect parry big enemies spam spin attacks and when your weapon gets hit by a enemy it flys back behind you letting the enemies get free hits this game isnt good blade and sorcery will always be the better version while battle talent is a clunky mess they dev also runied dungeon's by removing them from the games "story" and making it separate so the main game is very quick unless you wanna do the dudgeons mode which sucks bad game bad dev
WHAT IVE BEEN SPAMMING INTO SUGGESTIONS AND COMMENTS ALL OVER BLADE AND SORCERY VIDEOS AND DISCUSSIONS! LITERALLY THIS! Im so f*cking tired of these boring ass single attacks, i was happy when i saw a jump attack for the first but nah remove it again. And f*ck modders, dont give them the possibility to make Animation mods unless they were born writing f*cking code.
@@acay5722 As of right now, Silk (a modder) has uploaded a WIP mod that adds back animations that were in past updates. And there is another modder that added new animations but sadly only for Outer Rim enemies that use Lightsabers. There is also an unreleased mod that adds unarmed melee animations from the Yakuza games.
@@Omega-ol8mt bs theyre prob gonna add like 3 new animations, 2 handed weapon wielding is still gonna be missing and the game is ultimately gonna turn into Boring and Sorcery. This is coming from someone with 700 hours who calls this game his absolute favourite. Their ignorance on the question of new animation is so goddamn loud.
For the longest time I had no clue why blade and sorcery was so much more famous then battle talent, battle talent beat it in every single aspect. Then I realised Id been playing the demo the whole time, so I downloaded the full version and I cried tears of joy from how perfect it was As one of the cons you mentioned bad stabbing while in the clip you were using a curved sword that is literally designed only to slice. You also mentioned how fast enemies swing, and while I do agree that most of them swing incredibly fast this is a necessary part as otherwise it would be far too easy to kill them, plus if you get good enough you can deflect all of their attacks and it makes you feel like you've ascended to a higher plane of existence
@@topoffthecoupe1871 this is only true for the pc vr version even if Blade and Sorcery is in early access they seriously need to improve the fighting, npcs move slowly and predictably, and sometimes attacks can simply faze right through them, this is a problem I've never experienced in battle talent
@@skele0314 well then either you: 1. are one hell of a lucky guy 2. play PC VR rather than standalone 3. swing slowly because the phasing through enemies is a known problem on standalone, so much so there's even a "hint" on the loading screen about it
I played this game as a 5’9 140 lb black male in a metal trailer in 95 degree weather in ga and lemme tell you guys I have never been more physically challenged on some small circle shit, using that confined space and doing dungeon runs with no magic (my character was more of the close ranged warrior class) and trying to be fast and efficient as I was at work was everything it sounds like!!! Sweaty 🥵 nerve wracking and intense and I love every second of it on quest 2!!!
I used to play this game when it was in alpha lol. It was incredibly fun even back _then_ and I've been meaning to acquire the money to get the full release
I was about to mention Swordsman VR since it recently came out on quest (I play on psvr) but DAMN this game goes hard. One of the best vr sword fighting games out there. Amazingly edited video! Great pacing with vo explaining the content. 🙌 7:00 the physics of Bonnie lol
I train in two different Japanese sword arts, (I’m not an expert in either though.) when I learn something in the dojo I try to take it into VR.. battle talent responds exceptionally well to actual stance, form and movement taught in the dojo. (Especially Shinkendo). Swordsman VR, is good, but the way the opponents are armored, makes their movement and attack patterns predictable at times. Battle talent gives allot more opportunity to try different movements and cuts. My favorite thing is the ability to shuffle step, (which swordsman VR misses out on). Use the left joy stick to pick a direction, and flick the right joy stick back to do a quick shuffle step, in the direction you designated by the left stick. This allows you to step into your attack or step back when the enemy is striking, it makes a huge difference in the game experience. It also makes the game much more usable when applying actual combat techniques.
7:22 I have found that the stabbing is dependent on your speed/force, you cant just easily penetrate someone with a blade because it just slides off to the side, if you put actual force into it (like a lot of force) then it works very nicely
Problem is the "roguelike" is exactly the same every single time. First room is a tiny goblin swarm with a soul chest. Same 5 starter weapons to the point that I never any others unless I got 3/4 of the way to the end
Probably the best things about Battle Talent is that you can load things in the crossbow and that the enemies' attacks aren't too fast nor too slow, and also the aerial combat is so good
Bro i remember accidentally loading in some weird anal bead looking sword in my crossbow without realizing and killing some scary wizard thing with a scythe
you said "enemys just give up when you grab them" for B&S but you can to the exact thing in battle talent. edit: there is a mod in B&S called expert mod it makes it more of a challenge also if you want enemys with more health or a boss THEN JUST GET A MOD also crystal hunt is coming out and there is already dungeons like in battle talent and there will be currency and stuff for that so im pretty excited OH AND i respect your opinion but keep this in mind next time you play B&S. edit: there is also a mod that allows them to not get pushed over so easily
I personally prefer sword combat where it doesnt feel like youre dragging your weapon through mud, i know theyre tryin to make it feel weighty, it just doesnt work for me from what ive tried, my favorite melee so far is dungeons of eternity at least that one takes into consideration the force of your swing and you cant just touch an enemy and do full damage...but ill admit i had my eye on this one, lol...
played B&S, had to bump up the speed ‘cuz otherwise moves I could do in real life (especially flicks and other rotations) were waaay too slow and would noticeably drag.
Truly a fantastic game! From what I can tell blade and sorcery is almost unmatched when it comes to modding content despite U11, U12 constant changes. (not sure if that's the modding tools or just the crazy community) Battle Talent makes up for it with actual crafted and catered content by the devs. but I'm not sure if you got a chance to play vertigo 2 yet VR-Bro but man, it has an in-game map editor that anyone can really use and it make a massive difference when it comes to content. everything from a water level, Prison Break, goofy meme-Easter-egg kind of thing, it's awesome! So, the way I see it, if battle Talent can really nail down a simple and easy to access map editor, then that would give them quite the edge. Love the content man 💗
Kinda bad that you waited until the very end to say the video was sponsored. While I'm sure Battle talent is a great game you should've really mentioned that they sponsored you earlier
I personally don't understand all the hype, I played it and the combat just felt floaty. Blade and sorcery doesn't have the variety, but it has the graphics, more realistic combat, (other than being able to launch things into the stratosphere). Blade and Sorcery, which some people consider easier (vanilla, sure) can be WAY harder if you add a couple mods in. Less health for the player, extra damage for the enemies, faster attacks, weaker punches, weaker kicks, heavier enemies, survivable dismemberment, mods that make enemies able to tank stabs and get back up, health modifers that let you turn enemies into what is essentially a invincible warrior, gore mods that let you pluck eyes out of your enemies, making their faces deform with a strong enough punch or blunt blow to the face, and thats just the TIP of the iceberg for overhaul mods. You can REALLY easily just use mods to enhance the experience which the majority of players do, and the progression and skill unlocking? gonna be fixed this year during the 1.0 release. No scripting for nomad? thats changed! You said something about weapon mods just being reskins and not adding too much to the game? there are LITERAL grappling hooks, grenades, working guns, lightsabers, blasters, weapons that have functioning and useful abilities, different modes, etc. And spell mods, holy. You can create massive magical hands that you can use to grab, toss, smash, slap, punch, etc. You can fly, or summon powerful weapons. You can summon small tornados that throw around enemies, you can create slashes that travel through the air and chop through anyone who stands in your way. You can get map mods that enhance gameplay, giving you new areas to fight in, more ways to attack, and more. Ontop of ALL the mods that can make the game harder, you can also make yourself even STRONGER with overpowered spells, weapons, the ingame cheats that you can turn on and off, along with a way to adjust physics if you still prefer the lighter, more floaty combat of battle talent or want a heavier, possibly more difficult combat if you make weapons heavier and harder to control. Seriously, what does battle talent do better? everything is either going to be fixed THIS year or can be fixed NOW with a few mods. While battle talent is better in variety, I dont just understand why people are treating it like a new messiah.
don't get me wrong, battle talent is a fucking blast, though i do have a few problems with it 1: music just loops with no real variety or soundtrack 2: goblins just stay still when attacking, so you can just take a step back to dodge, not very hard 3: mods really arent that fun, similar to blade and sorcery 4: dungeons may seem interesting first glance, but its actually just the same every. single. time. absolutely no variety 5: cant use recoil to double jump :( 6: music cant be looped 7: slash katana doesnt have a sheathe ill add some more stuff later
Great video, opened my eyes to a few things that blade and sorcery was missing. I've played so much of it its hard to know when to move on, maybe playing something a little more complex will help me understand that the best doesnt stay the best forever. Thanks for the recommendation!
Superficially, what sets Battle Talent apart is its excellent enemy variety. Goblins, skeletons, ogres, anime swordfighters, the list goes on. B&S only has humans separated by different combinations of one-handed weapons, which I don't expect to change any time soon.
I'll have to check this out. B&S is great, but you just feel too strong and like all the enemies are drunk. They just awkwardly stumble at you, and if you breath near them they fall over or get shot into space.
I have never heard of battle talent, but now i'm interested. I had no idea why people said blade and sorcery had the best melee combat, I think they were referring to how op you could be. I may not have any practical experience with swords, but I found myself fascinated with elegantly and realistically parrying and countering enemies instead of overpowering them. Which is why I enjoy the combat of Hellsplit: arena, which I recommend to anyone who also likes the same thing as me. But battle talent seems to have more content, so il have to try it out for sure.
I honestly wasn't to hot on the idea of trying this game at first because I was new to VR in general so I had high expectations. I bought it because it looked like something I would like. Fast forward three days and challenging the first dungeon 15 times and now I have the habit to randomly dismember a goblins limbs and head, just incase. Ten out of ten, love everything about the experience.
I should’ve explained what I mean better haha. It doesn’t completely suck it’s just not as consistent or easy to do as in blade and sorcery. Which I guess might be the point
From what I've played Battle Talent isn't a better sword fighting game, its just a more diverse experience with the variety of weapons and whatnot. I still think Blade and Sorcery feels infinitely better than playing Battle Talent ever did. My weapon interacting with enemies just feels so clunky and uncoordinated in Battle Talent, but the weapons in Blade and Sorcery all have appropriate impact and the enemies all react appropriately too.
used to play battle talent sandbox mode spawn 100 goblins and give them 3x hp and 6x damg smoked a blunt beforehand and listened to the loudest most aggressive music i can and ive never had as much fun playing literally any other game vr or not (except titanfall2) greatly recommend doing this because it really teaches you how to dodge block and hit during openings aswell as durability management and spacing since they just kinda group up unless you set them to come in waves
Ok hear me out this game i better than blade and sorcery due to battle talent getting updates way more frequently and also actually big updates that adds a lot not to mention the modding support so you never have to switch to older versions and how they help modders like adding support to giant enemies.
dito isso, blade and sorcery > battle talent. (se não for contar o preço, realmente é um jogo muito bom, mas não dá para comparar se for levar em consideração apenas o game sem preços etc)
To be honest? Half-Life Alyx's gravity gloves spoiled me on physics in VR games. I don't want to go over and pick things up anymore. I just want to flick my wrist at an explosive, fail to catch it, and spin around just in time to watch it sail into a fire. I want this system in every game.
honestly convinced me I usualy play blade and sorcery while listening to new music, I legit mean *new* music. i'd just hop vr put in earbuds and just vibe out while I drain the Life from the innocents bandits. Edit: i played it. holy shit THE DEFLECTS ARE HELLA AWESOME! just been trying to deflect everyone with the perk that strikes them doewn with the power of GOD! its great 9/10 (my back hurts)
bro Battle Talent is the closest thing to SAO right now and I love it (dev is also obviously an SAO fan) I have never felt like I overcame a heroic difficult battle in VR with my own skill as much as I have with this game: I was fighting the dual wielding Goblin boss that attacks at mach one billion. I was up against the edge, and he was pulling a relentless combo against me, pushing me to the edge. All I could do was block, and my Health got whittled down to 1 HP. The boss was almost dead too. Then, my weapons both broke at the same time. Not unlike Kirito in that Gleam Eyes fight from SAO, in an instant I reached down to my waist holsters, pulled out the two swords I had there and symmetrically slashed across his chest in the perfect window of opportunity, and he died. Inches from the edge, 1 HP, main weapons broke, split second saving reaction. I wish so badly I had it recorded. My instant replay was off (damn you Geforce Experience). I have yet to have an experience quite like that again in VR. Oh also that was just in the demo from like 2 years ago. The full game is even better.
Blade and Sorcery could use a better "combat AI" but B&S runs smooth on my computer while Battle Talent just doesnt. I would argue B&S looks better in my opinion but doesn't use up all of my pc. Literally can't play Battle Talent cause it just lags so much, even tho it kinda looks worse in my opinion. But I also only tried the demo version back then. Maybe they fixed some aspects of graphic and cpu usage. Might give it another try.
"None of these [mods] add much to the existing gameplay" So, we just going to pretend that custom wave, AI overhaul, and player nerf mods don't exist? Like, seriously, there's SO much to turn B&S from endless, mindless slaughter to downright impossible to win. Honestly, from what is shown here, I'm not impressed. If feels complete, yet half-baked, whereas B&S feels EXTREMELY well polished (except for bows), but yet to be finalized.
This game looks like a bad blade and sorcery knock off. The enemy physics sucks, their animations are ass, and all the weapons and abilities are uninspired as hell. How did you even begin to see this as comparable to the masterpiece that is B&S?
Bought the game and it's terrible. It's a waste of money and looks like a rookie project with purchased assets off the store. Please, as a VR content creator, have higher standards.
I think the FREE demo has mods as well, I used to play this game FOREVER because of the modding. Also anyone know why my cheat menu mysteriously has maps and avatars as "Empty" and I can't change them?
If your looking for a better swordplay VR game give SWORDSMAN a try. I normally play HELLSPIT ARENA, it has the best graphics for a battle VR game, plus it has mod support.
What I didn't like about Battle Talent was walking in running compared to BnS felt stiff and sluggish. I really like the arm swinging to run in BnS. It feels more natural and keeps me from getting sick to the stomach. That said I would like an option for BnS style movement. I wonder if there's a mod for that.
Another issue with blade and sorcery is that the enemies feel so weak, like you'll tap them and they'll ragdoll. And to be honest, i much prefer fighting a standing and active opponent than a ragdolled one.
Nah deflection in this game is like rolling the dice- 50/50 works. Total crap. I compete in Sabre and a simple parry riposte is so clunky it’s gross. Hype train for this game is exactly that.
I don't think it is very fair to compare battle talent and blade and sorcery, they both have different goals which you can tell by just looking at the games dungeons. Blade and sorcery was made for pc first so it has much higher quality textures and things populating the dungeon. Blade and sorcery is moldable, it has mod scripting, which means it can be extremally hard or a full power fantasy. On the other hand Battle talents mods are much tamer, you don't see a mod like quest framework popping up in it. Battel Talent is incredible and so is blade and sorcery, but they are both very different.
What a sorry ass excuse for why battle talent is better than blade and sorcery? You all want it to feel more like a game. I think one of the draws for blade and sorcery is the realism that it brings. Battle talents physics are so below Bas, not only that but the graphics are just disgusting. The fighting is telegraphed and slow. Modding Bas is so much more worth it, too. Being able to turn the game into a completely different one with just a few mods is insane. And the modding community for Bas actually exists. I've spent equal time in both game communities on reddit and Discord, and let me just say the Bas kids have attitude, but the battle talent community is literally intolerable. One of the reasons why I stop playing battle talent and focus everything on Bas.
idk if its just me being short or smth, but battle talent felt wayyyy to like scripted imo when it comes to combat, i like being able to adapt on a moments notice, not have the enemy just dodge perfectly unless i attack the one place they arent guarding. i did play it a while tho so idk, for now tho b&s will always be on top cx
Yeah, B&S is really not as good as "THEY" said, I don't know why so many players keep saying B&S is good. I only see a game that's been in development for years but still doesn't have content outside of the sandbox and the claimed dungeon mode is still unfinished. Not to mention that his melee combat feels extremely bad and the constant shaking of the character while climbing ladders is unpleasant.
people keep comparing these games when they are very different, blade and sorcery is a sandbox game focused on realism and being almost fully intractable. While Battle talent is a more fantasy progression based rpg game. neither of them can be said as better when they are similar games focused on completely different experiences
Will say that it is not beginner friendly, got a few stages in on the campaign or whatever and found the heavy enemies too much, recently gave the challenge mode a go (not knowing what it was) and in 2 runs I immediately got better and halfway beat the boss, think some of the attacks a a little fast mainly on the skeletons but other then that it’s an enjoyable game
IMO battle talent is more accurate but most weapons feel the same or to different like a long sword feel 10x a short sword or your fist can knock out an enemy while any blunt you have to flail around to be any good
Finally people notice Battle Talents brilliance. I would go so far as to say that it is not even a fair comparison. I would never ever play B&S over BT. BT has everything B&S has only better and more immersive.
I hate to be that guy but in 7:22 when you say the stabbing sucks, you're trying to stab with like the one weapon that doesn't have a stab function (The goblin sword). Hell you can even stab with the mace. The stabbing is great.
Im sorry but sponsership detected opinion detected. Of course your gonna glaze and praise the game, the devs are literally paying you and the fact that you waited till the end to point it out is def scummy. Dont ever do it again.
I found it immediately suspicious how many RUclipsrs praise BT specifically on the cost of Blade and Sorcery even though it has much worse graphics, was a copy of B&S and the physics system is much worse. Well, turns out that BT is developed by Chinese and we know how those guys get market share - by playing dirty. And the army of spineless influencers help...
Nah, battle talent is just better as it stands. Better than Blade and sorcery Nomad is guaranteed, better than PC Blade and sorcery is debetable. But the fact that Battle talent just added Multiplayer is Goated.
I played the demo for battle talent and found it not very good comvat wise. The enemies had health bars and woth the fixed attack animations you could hit them and theyd just plow right through it
Ive been following Battle Talent since it first released, i prefer boafr and sorcery better. BT is like a goofy little dungeon combat game. I dont reall like thst tbh
i dont like this game, played it already and compared to b&s it's super ugly and swordplay feels clunky and icky. sorry yall but i'll stick to blade and sorcery
base game content battle talent for sure. it’s kind of like terraria and minecraft, imo base game terraria is far greater an experience than minecraft but Minecraft has near transcendental mods. same thing with this and b&s. except less mind bending
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5:17, when you were talkin about emulating fighting styles, ya did it really well, it's hard without weight... Hema tip tho: never strike vertically (straight up and down) always slash at and angle, it will let you line up another attack or stab easier, as well as making it harder to counter attack. (I am aware I sound like an idiot)
Grabbed 👍
bro wut?
I remembered playing the demo for a year or 2 than finally buying the full game and then finishing it in a few hours without dying
I love how the enemies have set attacks and dodges. A lot of VR misses that difficulty aspect that people love from normal videogames.
Exactly! There’s much more of a traditional learning curve with this game. Learning those attack patterns helps you know when to block, or parry, or strike back. As opposed to just exploiting the janky physics to push over everyone lol
yeah i love blade and sorcery but the gameplay meta of "just grab or push them over" gets very old very fast. I tried a 2.5x hp mod and the issue of the enemies all being LITERAL pushovers makes it too easy, I chop with a sword and it either does almost nothing or it completely immobilizes them and they fall over full ragdoll mode
It's the Dark Souls of VR melee games!
And exactly i don't like that. Once you memorize their attack patterns it's done. Meh
what? the enemies spam the same attacks skeletons do a combo that stun locks you until you get a perfect parry big enemies spam spin attacks and when your weapon gets hit by a enemy it flys back behind you letting the enemies get free hits this game isnt good blade and sorcery will always be the better version while battle talent is a clunky mess they dev also runied dungeon's by removing them from the games "story" and making it separate so the main game is very quick unless you wanna do the dudgeons mode which sucks bad game bad dev
Blade and Sorcery desperately needs more animations. This game is a perfect example of variety in combat.
WHAT IVE BEEN SPAMMING INTO SUGGESTIONS AND COMMENTS ALL OVER BLADE AND SORCERY VIDEOS AND DISCUSSIONS! LITERALLY THIS! Im so f*cking tired of these boring ass single attacks, i was happy when i saw a jump attack for the first but nah remove it again. And f*ck modders, dont give them the possibility to make Animation mods unless they were born writing f*cking code.
@@acay5722 As of right now, Silk (a modder) has uploaded a WIP mod that adds back animations that were in past updates. And there is another modder that added new animations but sadly only for Outer Rim enemies that use Lightsabers. There is also an unreleased mod that adds unarmed melee animations from the Yakuza games.
@@acay5722 its not the developers fault that animations are hard to add its the SDK for being outdated
i think their adding more in the update
@@Omega-ol8mt bs theyre prob gonna add like 3 new animations, 2 handed weapon wielding is still gonna be missing and the game is ultimately gonna turn into Boring and Sorcery. This is coming from someone with 700 hours who calls this game his absolute favourite. Their ignorance on the question of new animation is so goddamn loud.
For the longest time I had no clue why blade and sorcery was so much more famous then battle talent, battle talent beat it in every single aspect. Then I realised Id been playing the demo the whole time, so I downloaded the full version and I cried tears of joy from how perfect it was
As one of the cons you mentioned bad stabbing while in the clip you were using a curved sword that is literally designed only to slice. You also mentioned how fast enemies swing, and while I do agree that most of them swing incredibly fast this is a necessary part as otherwise it would be far too easy to kill them, plus if you get good enough you can deflect all of their attacks and it makes you feel like you've ascended to a higher plane of existence
Love this comment. You’re totally right about the stabbing too haha, I realized that too late!
blade and sorcery has better stabbing and slashing and also battle talent is fully released while blade and sorcery is still early access
@@topoffthecoupe1871 this is only true for the pc vr version
even if Blade and Sorcery is in early access they seriously need to improve the fighting, npcs move slowly and predictably, and sometimes attacks can simply faze right through them, this is a problem I've never experienced in battle talent
@@lirum6407the predictable part I agree with but I’ve never had an attack phase through someone in vanilla
@@skele0314 well then either you:
1. are one hell of a lucky guy
2. play PC VR rather than standalone
3. swing slowly
because the phasing through enemies is a known problem on standalone, so much so there's even a "hint" on the loading screen about it
I played this game as a 5’9 140 lb black male in a metal trailer in 95 degree weather in ga and lemme tell you guys I have never been more physically challenged on some small circle shit, using that confined space and doing dungeon runs with no magic (my character was more of the close ranged warrior class) and trying to be fast and efficient as I was at work was everything it sounds like!!! Sweaty 🥵 nerve wracking and intense and I love every second of it on quest 2!!!
I used to play this game when it was in alpha lol. It was incredibly fun even back _then_ and I've been meaning to acquire the money to get the full release
I was about to mention Swordsman VR since it recently came out on quest (I play on psvr) but DAMN this game goes hard. One of the best vr sword fighting games out there. Amazingly edited video! Great pacing with vo explaining the content. 🙌 7:00 the physics of Bonnie lol
I train in two different Japanese sword arts, (I’m not an expert in either though.) when I learn something in the dojo I try to take it into VR.. battle talent responds exceptionally well to actual stance, form and movement taught in the dojo. (Especially Shinkendo).
Swordsman VR, is good, but the way the opponents are armored, makes their movement and attack patterns predictable at times. Battle talent gives allot more opportunity to try different movements and cuts.
My favorite thing is the ability to shuffle step, (which swordsman VR misses out on).
Use the left joy stick to pick a direction, and flick the right joy stick back to do a quick shuffle step, in the direction you designated by the left stick. This allows you to step into your attack or step back when the enemy is striking, it makes a huge difference in the game experience. It also makes the game much more usable when applying actual combat techniques.
Swordsman VR has added a dynamic combat AI recently. have you tried it since? makes the combat more dynamic for sure, tho not perfectly
blade and sorcery is minecraft
Battle talent is terraria
7:22 I have found that the stabbing is dependent on your speed/force, you cant just easily penetrate someone with a blade because it just slides off to the side, if you put actual force into it (like a lot of force) then it works very nicely
stabbing in b&s used to be like this before u8 came out which changed stabbing someone to be pressure based
Problem is the "roguelike" is exactly the same every single time. First room is a tiny goblin swarm with a soul chest. Same 5 starter weapons to the point that I never any others unless I got 3/4 of the way to the end
Battle talent is like a rpg while blade and sorcery is ( for now) a sand box and both are good in their own aspects
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Oh my goodness. Yesterday blade and sorcery dropped some crystal hunt sneaks and BRO ITS SO GOOOOOOD. i CAN'T WAIT. You need to see it bro.
@@aclutchboy5389 Crystal hunt comes out in a week.
exactly what im saying, people say battle talent is better when it's almost a completely diffrent genre of game
@@aclutchboy5389 did you see the trailer that came out this week?
Hilarious intro editing! The crossbow blew my mind!
Thank you! Ikr isn’t that so funny!
Probably the best things about Battle Talent is that you can load things in the crossbow and that the enemies' attacks aren't too fast nor too slow, and also the aerial combat is so good
The ice blade is incredibly op in challenge mode. If you load it into the crossbow, it’s a 2 hit kill on all bosses
Bro i remember accidentally loading in some weird anal bead looking sword in my crossbow without realizing and killing some scary wizard thing with a scythe
you said "enemys just give up when you grab them" for B&S but you can to the exact thing in battle talent. edit: there is a mod in B&S called expert mod it makes it more of a challenge
also if you want enemys with more health or a boss THEN JUST GET A MOD also crystal hunt is coming out and there is already dungeons like in battle talent and there will be currency and stuff for that so im pretty excited OH AND i respect your opinion but keep this in mind next time you play B&S. edit: there is also a mod that allows them to not get pushed over so easily
Wish mods worked on nomad
they do tho there is a mod menu and they are adding scripted mods@@nahfr.
@@nahfr. They do
I personally prefer sword combat where it doesnt feel like youre dragging your weapon through mud, i know theyre tryin to make it feel weighty, it just doesnt work for me from what ive tried, my favorite melee so far is dungeons of eternity at least that one takes into consideration the force of your swing and you cant just touch an enemy and do full damage...but ill admit i had my eye on this one, lol...
played B&S, had to bump up the speed ‘cuz otherwise moves I could do in real life (especially flicks and other rotations) were waaay too slow and would noticeably drag.
Truly a fantastic game!
From what I can tell blade and sorcery is almost unmatched when it comes to modding content despite U11, U12 constant changes. (not sure if that's the modding tools or just the crazy community) Battle Talent makes up for it with actual crafted and catered content by the devs. but I'm not sure if you got a chance to play vertigo 2 yet VR-Bro but man, it has an in-game map editor that anyone can really use and it make a massive difference when it comes to content. everything from a water level, Prison Break, goofy meme-Easter-egg kind of thing, it's awesome!
So, the way I see it, if battle Talent can really nail down a simple and easy to access map editor, then that would give them quite the edge. Love the content man 💗
Just bought a PC for VR this weekend so I’ll definitely be checking out vertigo 2 asap! Thanks for the recommendation :)
Battle Talent is very cool, but in my opinion, its combat is not as smooth as the combat in Blade and Sorcery.
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Kinda bad that you waited until the very end to say the video was sponsored. While I'm sure Battle talent is a great game you should've really mentioned that they sponsored you earlier
I don’t have a problem with being a pointless fighter my only problem is it was to easy i wanted it to be realistic
I personally don't understand all the hype, I played it and the combat just felt floaty. Blade and sorcery doesn't have the variety, but it has the graphics, more realistic combat, (other than being able to launch things into the stratosphere).
Blade and Sorcery, which some people consider easier (vanilla, sure) can be WAY harder if you add a couple mods in. Less health for the player, extra damage for the enemies, faster attacks, weaker punches, weaker kicks, heavier enemies, survivable dismemberment, mods that make enemies able to tank stabs and get back up, health modifers that let you turn enemies into what is essentially a invincible warrior, gore mods that let you pluck eyes out of your enemies, making their faces deform with a strong enough punch or blunt blow to the face, and thats just the TIP of the iceberg for overhaul mods.
You can REALLY easily just use mods to enhance the experience which the majority of players do, and the progression and skill unlocking? gonna be fixed this year during the 1.0 release.
No scripting for nomad? thats changed!
You said something about weapon mods just being reskins and not adding too much to the game? there are LITERAL grappling hooks, grenades, working guns, lightsabers, blasters, weapons that have functioning and useful abilities, different modes, etc.
And spell mods, holy. You can create massive magical hands that you can use to grab, toss, smash, slap, punch, etc. You can fly, or summon powerful weapons. You can summon small tornados that throw around enemies, you can create slashes that travel through the air and chop through anyone who stands in your way.
You can get map mods that enhance gameplay, giving you new areas to fight in, more ways to attack, and more.
Ontop of ALL the mods that can make the game harder, you can also make yourself even STRONGER with overpowered spells, weapons, the ingame cheats that you can turn on and off, along with a way to adjust physics if you still prefer the lighter, more floaty combat of battle talent or want a heavier, possibly more difficult combat if you make weapons heavier and harder to control.
Seriously, what does battle talent do better? everything is either going to be fixed THIS year or can be fixed NOW with a few mods. While battle talent is better in variety, I dont just understand why people are treating it like a new messiah.
don't get me wrong, battle talent is a fucking blast, though i do have a few problems with it
1: music just loops with no real variety or soundtrack
2: goblins just stay still when attacking, so you can just take a step back to dodge, not very hard
3: mods really arent that fun, similar to blade and sorcery
4: dungeons may seem interesting first glance, but its actually just the same every. single. time. absolutely no variety
5: cant use recoil to double jump :(
6: music cant be looped
7: slash katana doesnt have a sheathe
ill add some more stuff later
Great video, opened my eyes to a few things that blade and sorcery was missing. I've played so much of it its hard to know when to move on, maybe playing something a little more complex will help me understand that the best doesnt stay the best forever. Thanks for the recommendation!
battle talents mid air combos is so damn satisfying to me cause you can kill one enemy in the air and then do it again
the music is too loud compared to your voice
Superficially, what sets Battle Talent apart is its excellent enemy variety. Goblins, skeletons, ogres, anime swordfighters, the list goes on. B&S only has humans separated by different combinations of one-handed weapons, which I don't expect to change any time soon.
This aged... no? Blade and sorcery now is the greatest on the market
Blade and sorcery is just not enough of a challenge. It’s too easy.
@@GlonkersVR And what vr game is hard then?
@@themanthatsavedjosukehigas6714 even though Bladen sorcery is better in a lot of aspects. I still still think that battle talent is a harder game.
Please someone tell me the name of the weopon in the intro 0:46 and 4:51
i will download battle talent if i can fight humans
my only gripe with this game is that they didnt add any good curved swords 😢
Also battle talent just released multiplayer 😂😂😂
Literally every VR game/version of a game I have seen has sold me on the game, but then I look at my wallet
So true all I have is £2.50
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I'll have to check this out. B&S is great, but you just feel too strong and like all the enemies are drunk.
They just awkwardly stumble at you, and if you breath near them they fall over or get shot into space.
mods fix that
I have never heard of battle talent, but now i'm interested. I had no idea why people said blade and sorcery had the best melee combat, I think they were referring to how op you could be. I may not have any practical experience with swords, but I found myself fascinated with elegantly and realistically parrying and countering enemies instead of overpowering them. Which is why I enjoy the combat of Hellsplit: arena, which I recommend to anyone who also likes the same thing as me. But battle talent seems to have more content, so il have to try it out for sure.
I always felt blade and sorcery was mostly a sandbox
this looks a game
Exactly how I feel
I honestly wasn't to hot on the idea of trying this game at first because I was new to VR in general so I had high expectations. I bought it because it looked like something I would like. Fast forward three days and challenging the first dungeon 15 times and now I have the habit to randomly dismember a goblins limbs and head, just incase. Ten out of ten, love everything about the experience.
I'm convinced, downloading battle talent now
It’s now no longer single player
I remember when I first got my oculus I put like 70+ hours into the demo for this game
>Melee combat game
>The stabbing sucks
This should be fixed.
I should’ve explained what I mean better haha. It doesn’t completely suck it’s just not as consistent or easy to do as in blade and sorcery. Which I guess might be the point
Stabbing is actually quite refined, the issue was that in the video curved sword was used to slab with blunt edge 😅
From what I've played Battle Talent isn't a better sword fighting game, its just a more diverse experience with the variety of weapons and whatnot. I still think Blade and Sorcery feels infinitely better than playing Battle Talent ever did. My weapon interacting with enemies just feels so clunky and uncoordinated in Battle Talent, but the weapons in Blade and Sorcery all have appropriate impact and the enemies all react appropriately too.
used to play battle talent sandbox mode spawn 100 goblins and give them 3x hp and 6x damg smoked a blunt beforehand and listened to the loudest most aggressive music i can and ive never had as much fun playing literally any other game vr or not (except titanfall2) greatly recommend doing this because it really teaches you how to dodge block and hit during openings aswell as durability management and spacing since they just kinda group up unless you set them to come in waves
Ok hear me out this game i better than blade and sorcery due to battle talent getting updates way more frequently and also actually big updates that adds a lot not to mention the modding support so you never have to switch to older versions and how they help modders like adding support to giant enemies.
becoming goblin slayer sounds like fun
dito isso, blade and sorcery > battle talent. (se não for contar o preço, realmente é um jogo muito bom, mas não dá para comparar se for levar em consideração apenas o game sem preços etc)
To be honest? Half-Life Alyx's gravity gloves spoiled me on physics in VR games. I don't want to go over and pick things up anymore. I just want to flick my wrist at an explosive, fail to catch it, and spin around just in time to watch it sail into a fire. I want this system in every game.
I'm sorry but blade and sorcery crystal hunt is gonna change everything ngl.
Yeah, in 4 years
This games challenge mode is perfect
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honestly convinced me
I usualy play blade and sorcery while listening to new music, I legit mean *new* music. i'd just hop vr put in earbuds and just vibe out while I drain the Life from the innocents bandits.
Edit: i played it. holy shit THE DEFLECTS ARE HELLA AWESOME! just been trying to deflect everyone with the perk that strikes them doewn with the power of GOD! its great 9/10 (my back hurts)
bro Battle Talent is the closest thing to SAO right now and I love it (dev is also obviously an SAO fan)
I have never felt like I overcame a heroic difficult battle in VR with my own skill as much as I have with this game:
I was fighting the dual wielding Goblin boss that attacks at mach one billion. I was up against the edge, and he was pulling a relentless combo against me, pushing me to the edge. All I could do was block, and my Health got whittled down to 1 HP. The boss was almost dead too. Then, my weapons both broke at the same time. Not unlike Kirito in that Gleam Eyes fight from SAO, in an instant I reached down to my waist holsters, pulled out the two swords I had there and symmetrically slashed across his chest in the perfect window of opportunity, and he died.
Inches from the edge, 1 HP, main weapons broke, split second saving reaction. I wish so badly I had it recorded. My instant replay was off (damn you Geforce Experience).
I have yet to have an experience quite like that again in VR.
Oh also that was just in the demo from like 2 years ago. The full game is even better.
Blade and Sorcery could use a better "combat AI" but B&S runs smooth on my computer while Battle Talent just doesnt. I would argue B&S looks better in my opinion but doesn't use up all of my pc. Literally can't play Battle Talent cause it just lags so much, even tho it kinda looks worse in my opinion. But I also only tried the demo version back then. Maybe they fixed some aspects of graphic and cpu usage. Might give it another try.
"None of these [mods] add much to the existing gameplay"
So, we just going to pretend that custom wave, AI overhaul, and player nerf mods don't exist?
Like, seriously, there's SO much to turn B&S from endless, mindless slaughter to downright impossible to win.
Honestly, from what is shown here, I'm not impressed. If feels complete, yet half-baked, whereas B&S feels EXTREMELY well polished (except for bows), but yet to be finalized.
5:14 the fact that you used a real technique and it worked is awesome
Didn't need him to say this video was sponsored to know it was. He's way to generous with Battle Talent and far too harsh on Blade and Sorcery.
Blade & Sorcery showing up with 1.0 including revamped AI, a proper skill tree, and a story mode.
This game looks like a bad blade and sorcery knock off. The enemy physics sucks, their animations are ass, and all the weapons and abilities are uninspired as hell. How did you even begin to see this as comparable to the masterpiece that is B&S?
Bought the game and it's terrible. It's a waste of money and looks like a rookie project with purchased assets off the store. Please, as a VR content creator, have higher standards.
I think the FREE demo has mods as well, I used to play this game FOREVER because of the modding. Also anyone know why my cheat menu mysteriously has maps and avatars as "Empty" and I can't change them?
If your looking for a better swordplay VR game give SWORDSMAN a try. I normally play HELLSPIT ARENA, it has the best graphics for a battle VR game, plus it has mod support.
Posting about swordsman soon ;)
What I didn't like about Battle Talent was walking in running compared to BnS felt stiff and sluggish. I really like the arm swinging to run in BnS. It feels more natural and keeps me from getting sick to the stomach. That said I would like an option for BnS style movement. I wonder if there's a mod for that.
Another issue with blade and sorcery is that the enemies feel so weak, like you'll tap them and they'll ragdoll. And to be honest, i much prefer fighting a standing and active opponent than a ragdolled one.
Nah deflection in this game is like rolling the dice- 50/50 works. Total crap. I compete in Sabre and a simple parry riposte is so clunky it’s gross. Hype train for this game is exactly that.
I don't think it is very fair to compare battle talent and blade and sorcery, they both have different goals which you can tell by just looking at the games dungeons.
Blade and sorcery was made for pc first so it has much higher quality textures and things populating the dungeon.
Blade and sorcery is moldable, it has mod scripting, which means it can be extremally hard or a full power fantasy.
On the other hand Battle talents mods are much tamer, you don't see a mod like quest framework popping up in it.
Battel Talent is incredible and so is blade and sorcery, but they are both very different.
To me the greatest thing I have done in this game is that fact that i mod it so that I am fighting the final boss while listening to Order.
What a sorry ass excuse for why battle talent is better than blade and sorcery? You all want it to feel more like a game. I think one of the draws for blade and sorcery is the realism that it brings. Battle talents physics are so below Bas, not only that but the graphics are just disgusting. The fighting is telegraphed and slow. Modding Bas is so much more worth it, too. Being able to turn the game into a completely different one with just a few mods is insane. And the modding community for Bas actually exists. I've spent equal time in both game communities on reddit and Discord, and let me just say the Bas kids have attitude, but the battle talent community is literally intolerable. One of the reasons why I stop playing battle talent and focus everything on Bas.
I HAVE BEEN STUCK ON THE DARK NIGHT FOR SO LONG (does anybody have tips)
idk if its just me being short or smth, but battle talent felt wayyyy to like scripted imo when it comes to combat, i like being able to adapt on a moments notice, not have the enemy just dodge perfectly unless i attack the one place they arent guarding. i did play it a while tho so idk, for now tho b&s will always be on top cx
Algorithm indeed.
Blade and sorcery just came back a few months after this and started fighting back
Yeah, B&S is really not as good as "THEY" said, I don't know why so many players keep saying B&S is good. I only see a game that's been in development for years but still doesn't have content outside of the sandbox and the claimed dungeon mode is still unfinished.
Not to mention that his melee combat feels extremely bad and the constant shaking of the character while climbing ladders is unpleasant.
Just you wait for 1.0 update Blade And Sorcery (Not a glazer, I love Battle Talent but the 1.0 update for b&s is more of my style)
people keep comparing these games when they are very different, blade and sorcery is a sandbox game focused on realism and being almost fully intractable. While Battle talent is a more fantasy progression based rpg game. neither of them can be said as better when they are similar games focused on completely different experiences
3:43 broken edge: LOOK WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO MIMIC A FRACTION OF OUR POWER
Will say that it is not beginner friendly, got a few stages in on the campaign or whatever and found the heavy enemies too much, recently gave the challenge mode a go (not knowing what it was) and in 2 runs I immediately got better and halfway beat the boss, think some of the attacks a a little fast mainly on the skeletons but other then that it’s an enjoyable game
IMO battle talent is more accurate but most weapons feel the same or to different like a long sword feel 10x a short sword or your fist can knock out an enemy while any blunt you have to flail around to be any good
Finally people notice Battle Talents brilliance. I would go so far as to say that it is not even a fair comparison. I would never ever play B&S over BT. BT has everything B&S has only better and more immersive.
You are an absolutely amazing RUclipsr! You should have more subs!
Blade and Sorcery added a full campaign mode finally....and it's so convoluted that no one does it lol
Longsword looks too slow still. They arent that heavy like popular culture claims to be. Although maybe its due game balance.
Shame on you for withholding that this is a sponsored video.
im pissed at myself, i got the game, played it when it first released cause i loved the demo, didnt like the release build, and REFUNDED IT
I hate to be that guy but in 7:22 when you say the stabbing sucks, you're trying to stab with like the one weapon that doesn't have a stab function (The goblin sword). Hell you can even stab with the mace. The stabbing is great.
Im sorry but sponsership detected opinion detected. Of course your gonna glaze and praise the game, the devs are literally paying you and the fact that you waited till the end to point it out is def scummy. Dont ever do it again.
I found it immediately suspicious how many RUclipsrs praise BT specifically on the cost of Blade and Sorcery even though it has much worse graphics, was a copy of B&S and the physics system is much worse.
Well, turns out that BT is developed by Chinese and we know how those guys get market share - by playing dirty.
And the army of spineless influencers help...
Nah, battle talent is just better as it stands. Better than Blade and sorcery Nomad is guaranteed, better than PC Blade and sorcery is debetable. But the fact that Battle talent just added Multiplayer is Goated.
Physics are way better in blade and sorcery, better mods, better combat, better graphics, funner mods and better brutality
not sure if it was the full release causing it but the handling of 2 handed weapons feels REALLY bad for me like unbearably bad.
You should try Swordsman VR, great swordfighting game!
I played the demo for battle talent and found it not very good comvat wise. The enemies had health bars and woth the fixed attack animations you could hit them and theyd just plow right through it
For some reason battle talent was removed from my quest even though I bought it. Now I can’t play it anymore.
Ive been following Battle Talent since it first released, i prefer boafr and sorcery better. BT is like a goofy little dungeon combat game. I dont reall like thst tbh
Its pretty much good until you choose the sandbox mode whoch just ruins everything because you can use all the weapons taking the fun out of it
As of blade and sorcery 1.0, as a player of both games, I say blade and sorcery is way better now
You secretly snuck it in there your sponsored from them at the end. 🤣🤦🏻♂️ Naughty meant to do it at the start so you dont waste peeps time man.
I wish full body tracking was cheaper so we could actually kick easily in VR.
Great game tho starts randomly "slowmo-ing" both on pc and quest. Nope, i am not pressing anything but sticks
i dont like this game, played it already and compared to b&s it's super ugly and swordplay feels clunky and icky. sorry yall but i'll stick to blade and sorcery
The most only reason I get on blade and sorcery is if I’m feeling down for some hand to hand, because it’s the only thing it beats battle talent with.
base game content battle talent for sure.
it’s kind of like terraria and minecraft, imo base game terraria is far greater an experience than minecraft but Minecraft has near transcendental mods. same thing with this and b&s. except less mind bending