Mainstream Media - Malcolm Gladwell Closing Statement
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- Опубликовано: 29 янв 2023
- Public trust in mainstream media is at an all-time low. Critics point to coverage of COVID-19, the 2020 election, and the Ottawa trucker protest as proof that legacy outlets like the New York Times, The Globe and Mail and CNN can no longer be relied upon to provide unbiased reporting. Activist journalists are using pen and paper to push political agendas while their bosses lean into the profitability of polarization. Mainstream media’s defenders argue that their institutions offer an invaluable public service that alternative outlets are either incapable or uninterested in providing: careful fact-based reporting on important issues and holding the powerful to account. In a brave new world of “fake news” and “drive by” journalism, traditional news organizations are essential to democracy and a bulwark against corruption, misinformation and the private interests of the powerful.
Arguing for motion was the associate editor of The Spectator magazine, Fox News contributor, and bestselling author of The Madness of Crowds, Douglas Murray. He was joined on stage by Substack publishing sensation, former Rolling Stone contributing editor, and investigative journalist, Matt Taibbi
Arguing against the resolution was the internationally acclaimed author, podcaster and veteran New Yorker staff writer, Malcolm Gladwell. His debate partner was Michelle Goldberg, New York Times columnist, MSNBC contributor, former American Prospect senior correspondent and senior writer for The Nation.
The audience voted on this resolution prior to hearing the debate. 48% voted in favour of the resolution, while 52% voted against the resolution.
At the end of the debate, another poll was conducted. 67% voted in favour of the motion, while 33% voted against it, representing a 39% vote gain for the PRO side.
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I’ve lost so much respect for Malcolm after watching this debate.
Gladwell made a persuasive case. For the other side.
Ha! Ha! Exactly
I'm so glad that I pursued watching this after the algorithm failed to serve it up. This vacuous empty defense of being wrong is quite telling. It pretty well confirms everything that I've begun to feel about the media in the past 10 to 15 years. This guy is walking example of everything I hate in the media.
Agreed. His smug dishonesty; his willingness to call an innocent guy racist, over and over again; his refusal to listen or intellectually engage with someone; my goodness, his claim that journalism shouldn't be about being right (leave that to the lowly stockbrokers) is all such weasley, despicable behaviour.
I lost a lot of respect for Malcolm after this. I really hope he does a case study on his performance for Revisionist History
👍👍 I can't wait to see that...
I imagine he will rewrite how this went.... fittingly some revisionist history.
I didn't have much respect for him beforehand.
Yep. I couldn't agree more. I lost all respect for him this evening.
Ditto. He's definitely smart but hardly the open minded critical thinker and at the end of the day I think he's just a scaredy cat
Expected better out of Malcolm. Straw men indeed.
He just put out a podcast episode worth watching. He goes to debate school to dissect why he lost.
@@mowgli6345 lmao that podcast showed he learned nothing. dude just doubled down on the racism stuff
It's funny because, in his books (where there is noone to challenge him) he presents himself as the paragon of cool, logical intellect. The reality is so different.....
I enjoyed reading Malcolm's books. They're inciteful and riveting. I am absolutely stupefied how someone as brilliant as him can be a complete moron at the same time.
Because he’s not brilliant with ideas but merely good with words
It's called fraud.
Editors help alot
This is the human condition. We are brilliant and foolish -- we each possess both of these. Our nature is paradoxical.
@@OsirisNin Speak for yourself, professor.
Without the isms, ists and phobias they've got nothing and they know it.
disgusting sophistry!
As you see, Crito... Marsha! Marsha! Marsha!
@@elmerkilred159 LMAO
Malcolm, in an amazingly lucid exemplar of what the public doesn't trust about the corporate MMS, unwittingly and sadly in his case by design, cannot help but showcase an intolerant, intellectually elite, pissyness to the very audience he speaks to, should he be challenged successfully, as he was; it's as innate to him as breathing.
Any respect I ever had for him is completely gone. I would say he got schooled…….but one has to actually LISTEN for that to happen.
I think Gladwell just destroyed any credibility he had left here.
Same mate
The "Malc" comeback later from Douglas Murray is great
@@willzimjohn watch the whole video, Malcolm starts the name calling, and does it multiple times even when corrected. it's obvious he's doing it to belittle his opponents, Douglas hits back once.
@@willzimjohn You obviously didn’t watch the whole debate. Malcolm is intentionally calling both of them by the wrong name to try to imply that they are nobodies. Either that, or he’s just supremely unprepared and disrespectful.
@@willzimjohnDouglas corrected him multiple times saying he’d prefer to go by Douglas
@@willzimjohn I've never heard anyone ever refer to Murray as "Doug" anywhere, and I've seen him a ton. Not everyone named Douglas goes by "Doug", they could prefer "Dougie" instead (as Canadian hockey player Dougie Hamilton, so now you actually do know someone) or no nickname at all. Calling someone by a nickname like that that they don't go by comes across as a rather silly debate tactic to throw someone off or get under someone's skin, and if you dish it out, then don't go crying when you get it right back at you.
Gladwell is such a pompous and arrogant twit. He is the quintessential example of what is wrong with the MSM and why we shouldn't trust them. He put words in the mouths of Matt and "Doug" they never said and made accusations about them based on zero evidence. Exactly, what the MSM does everyday. PS. I was also glad Douglas skewered our lack of independent media in Canada.
Malc, it is the public’s job to question what they read. If you are seen as dishonest, they will call it as such. The fact he is arguing that they should not be questioned is VERY concerning.
Gladwell = sad sick
Some true colors were certainly shown over the last 3 years. Authoritarianism from people I used to regard as liberals
What a Ghoul.
Jesus this guy is a real piece of work
I can forgive Malcolm losing this debate. I can forgive him making poor arguments, but his constant snide attempts to land a racism accusation on Matt Taibbi was disgusting. It came across as a clear 'tactic' to undermine him and paint him as unlikable to the audience. But it proved the point.
When the media runs out of facts to support them, they start with the character assassination and resort to hurling the 'isms'. In the course of one debate, Malcolm showed exactly what the other side were saying, by becoming it in front of everyone.
No longer a fan.
I hate to break it to you, but that attitude is pervasive on the Left. It’s why it’s harder and harder to find Leftists to debate conservatives: the baloney fears the meat grinder.
I fail every time I attempt to take Gladwell seriously. But he makes my failure so easy.
So, Gladwell's argument is "You guys are racists throwing a tantrum". I'm surprised he went with that given the audience. But I'm reminded of the writer's adage, "Write what you know".
Weakest of all 4 Closing Remarks in this debate - hence the reason why the final vote swung massively against him - in an unprecedented reversal.
Gladwell seems to have a somewhat unattractive and effete disposition, which in a woman might be called ‘catty’.
In a man, it’s just ….. unmanly.
You’re joking, i hope.
@@williamhawk6293 Never more serious.
Well, that has very little to do with anything
A digression into the defense of the depraved and the debauched
throwing out all my malcolm gladwell books tonight
This whole 'debate' was an eye-opening surprise. I didn't know what the defence was going to be, I expected something along the lines of the skew is a balanced one because there are two opposing sides; perhaps that there is an overall skew, but that there is a call for editorialised content in the modern age; perhaps that it was the biases of the other side that made them see a bias; perhaps.... etc. Essentially, Gladwell's argument was "You're a poopy pants" - powerful in kindergarten, certainly, but lacked a little something against Tee-abby and Doug.
He is a caricature of what “Matt & Doug” fear is wrong with the media. He is also like an arrogant Roman governor from an Asterix cartoon
So Malcolm Gladwell, basically defended newscasters (and other so-called journalists) for filtering the subject of their “reporting” through their personal biases (the height of solipsism), or determining whether to report on any particular newsworthy item if it doesn’t comport with their personal philosophy.
Don’t you think that pretty much negates the using the word journalist for anyone that does that?
no he’s saying they’re capable of reporting despite them…
@@twilit Well then, he’d be wrong still!
Malcolm is the CBC incarnate
I grew up with the CBC. How low it has fallen. The ideologues there are now running the asylum. Government-funded, ideologically-based dogma masquerading as news. It's garbage to a very large degree.
Lol. Indeed.
Gladwell barely makes any sense with much of his points. He is either pretending, or is completely delusional... 🤦🏽♂️🙄 Douglas & Matt make sense. 🙌🏾
This guy's submitted to the mercenary ethic. Couldn't trust him to mow my lawn.
All the school girls in the audience were very polite to clap at the end
of his nonsense, especially since they have no idea what he just said.
To deny that Journalism is not in the middle of a crisis is pretty remarkable.
Wow, calling people racist when you can't construct an argument. He shouldn't be a journalist, he should be our prime minister.
Gladwell: Embarrassing gatekeeper of journalistic “worthiness.” Turns out that reporting stories and writing ones opinion on current matters is only reserved for his “extraordinary subgroup of the population
Exactly-in his final statement he argued against his own complaint about the 50s
Well, this confirms in absolutes something I always suspected: Malcolm is babbling gasbag of gargantuan hubris without even a fraction of the intelligence he espouses. And I said it in gasbaggy way so he can appreciate it. Also, Blink was boring and useless.
I saw malcolm gladwell one time, in hWaii at an expensive hotel in winter of 2020 (just before covid) sitting alone looking off into space near the hotels starbucks lounge. Now i know for a fact his brain is as empty as his blank stare.
Quite astounding really. Poor Malcom, he did write some good stuff back in the day but... well, here we are.
Wow what happened to Malcom? Did he start playing rugby and pile on the concussions?
Gladwell slanders Taibi with racism accusations to deflect the fact that he is a willing tool of the racist corporate kleptocracy.
What a hateful man. His speech is perfect as it shows this man has been captured by hatred and therefore he feels justified in lying and smearing his opponent.
The old We were wrong for the right reason
Malcolm lives in a total bubble. Sorry Malcolm, time to connect with people. Get back to your roots.
He gladly defers to authority to conventionally explain every single debate point, even though the authority is heavily biased
Wow, I’ve read many of his books and I’m generally a fan of his work, but Malcom really does a disservice to himself here. The constant use of strawmen and his overall dismissive behavior was very hard to watch.
Continuing to call him DOUG ….mmmh …Covert hostility / contempt ?
Childish cuntishness is how I see such behaviour. I wouldn't accept it from an 8 year old
Malcom could feel his own metaphorical death as his final argument was rolling off his tongue.
Malc channeling his inner Sam Harris...
His closing argument is childish, he came to the debate with the presumption that "the opponents" must be racists, conspiracists...and he no offered any examples to argue or to illustrate that mainstream media has done its job properly and as truthfully as possible. He represents the typical intellectual snob who fancies himself the final judge of everything and anyone who has questions about those rulings is simply stupid, I'm glad that I have his books only on my wish list in Amazon. Now, I can delete them, saving time and money! Thanks Malc!
Malcolm has 2 problems going into this debate, that ultimately he was just on able to overcome:
1) he’s not especially intelligent, and it showed
2) not only is he wrong on the question at hand, but he’s also the perfect example of it in action
Not Gladwell's finest moment.
As a long time fan of Malcolm Gladwell I am totally, utterly shocked by his cheap, childish behavior during this debate. Just the worst kind of race baiting bullshit we don’t need in this country. I used to hold him to high regard as a person of reason, intellect. I’ll add him to the list of reasons why I don’t trust the mainstream media and the blind ambition of the left (other examples for the right) agenda. A very upsetting and sad day indeed.
Nobody can even approximate the intellectual achievements, the level of accurate articulation and the scholarly achievements of Douglas Murray. W.
Somerset Maugham said something regarding lesser minds being relegated to the back row of second raters.
Malcolm makes no sense
you know why they didnt write for women of blacks? because they wrote for people not for demographics. Malcolm believes women and ethnicities need to be pandered to in writing. They do not. They are people that can read just as well. « Sunny with a chance of rain » does not need a black/women version.
Great point !!
Watching Malcolm Gladwell trying to explain basic civics to these guys is like watching someone try and teach quantum physics to a monkey.
Malcom can eff all the way off.
I wonder if Gladwell has always been such an arrogant, deluded individual. Puts his books into perspective.
That every institution must
"reflect" the diversity you see walking down the street, like,
the left's big thing?
Malcolm basically said that - we know everyone in media is leftist, but that we should trust their narrative anyway?
Sad dude
Truth
eye opening to what a hack this dude is.
Malcolm even looks like a strawman
Dude looks like Stewart from Big Bang Theory
Mic drop summary for the win.
95% of his whole thing is his Garfunkel hair style
I've read several of Malcom Gladwell's books, and come to appreciate his depth of research, insights and interesting perspectives on many subjects. However, after watching this interview, I have lost all respect for him. He was thoroughly outclassed by both Murray and Taibbi. Rather than sticking to the topic in what could have been an informative difference of opinions, Gladwell pathetically insisted on trying to distract the audience by painting Taibbi as a racist. One would think he was incapable of understanding the simple comparison of a time when the press was trusted vs. the present day when it is not (at least by people capable of critical thinking). The fact that newscasters at that time were white males is irrelevant. What makes it inexcusable is that Gladwell is smart enough to know what he was doing. I'm glad the audience was able to see through his charade and vote for the other side at the end of the debate.
Although I am no fan of how the truckers conducted themselves in Canada, I found Murray's summary of how the media reported on it to be brilliant and spot-on. I read foreign news outlets at that time in order to get the real story, which Murray summarized perfectly.
Mal is so out of his depth 😂.
Intellectually embarrassed. This guy is a clown
When you count FOX NEWs as mainstream then this statement makes no sense. This seems like an ad hominem attack because Mr Gladwell makes it not about the mainstream media but what he insinuates is the true reason, that being sexism, racism, poor character.
Malc got destroyed in this debate end of just waiting for this turn on the stage pathetic
Gladwall came off very poorly. In a time of institutional crisis across the board, he argues journalism is immune. It is a proven fact that the new news model has to target a segment of audience AND feed them what they want to hear. It’s done due to the extreme financial pressures journalistic outlets have to deal with. That and social media draw so many people away from traditional outlets where people used to get their news. Lastly, we live in a moment to moment culture where news gets reported FAST & if there are errors in the reporting, “well don’t worry guys, we’ll just deal with that later get the story OUT before someone else dose. Perhaps in the next debate Malcom can ease our minds about the silly notion that there will never be any AI generated false news….. so we can all sleep better!
Gladwell was just a name caller in this . Poor performance . I have enjoyed some of his work in the past so this was extremely disappointing .
Quit being journalists and return to being objective reporters. Make a genuine effort to curb your desire to preaching what you want people to believe like you are the priesthood of your secular religion. Present the facts of an event and when you make reasoned arguments about your interpretation cite your sources (don’t use other journalists’ opinions as a source). If you are reporting solely on an emotional level, throw that draft away and start over.
Why? If you close your eyes you can think of at least one person that does this for n your personal life and that you tune out immediately. For the majority of the population, that person is now you. That’s not a position you want to be in.
Gladwell disgraced himself- just a hack!
This is a terrible closing statement for a debate, good gosh. Missing the point so badly. Yes people can put their personal beliefs behind their preffesional obligations but.
A) Human beings have a tenancy to bias and this is inherant to human nature. We know this more fully and see it more now. (and need to hold people accountable)
B) To the extent that journalists can put their personal beliefs aside this has become less and less common with greater bias and echo chamber effects snowballing
C) Institutions are always corruptable and always have been and the prevelance of bias and corruption is becoming ever more obvious in the age of more free information exchange than ever before.
Gladwell strikes me as someone with very little awareness of his own bias and how his beliefs colour his own opinion massively. From his last book the lack of self awareness and critical thinking surrounding his OWN political position was clear and dissapointing.
Well intentioned guy thought perhaps.
I'm a Creeep....
Malc who?
Lame assessment
Gladwell is so delusional
Malcolm Gladwell has too much free time. Dude needs a job.
TEDfraud
Condensed nonsense.
Outstanding.
"Malc", an expert in making an own-goal for the opposition!
“Malc” is delusional
Quite the manufactured argument based on his trust of the media? Huh?
wow. Malcolm really having a bad day. pathetic.