Every job has its own importance so i do disagree slightly with you i Securtiy officer and we get looked down at with some people so this why i disagree i will also some jobs we would not be able to function with these people
Everyone is entitled to a decent wage, doctor's and nurses weren't the only ones working during COVID, police officers, supermarket staff postal staff and many more. Believe me there's plenty of nurses on very high salaries. I think everyone should be valued and we all need each other.
Malone constantly criticises what working people earn but happy for her rich Tory mates to avoid paying tax, she so full of her own importance even though if she vanished tomorrow no one would miss her in fact the world would be a nicer place
The caller has demonstrated that he's an unqualified worker and expects to be paid the same a nurse and just like him, Carole is too thick to recognise it.
I worked in retail for many years, some shifts as long as 19 hours. It can be very hard work and you are unappreciated. But it's not a comparison to what nurses and NHS staff do and have had to put up with since the pandemic. Retail workers receive a pay rise if their company's branch''s profits are beyond a certain level (incremental but still increase). It's a team effort (that can be laughable). Nurses do not get such rises. Nurses were shafted by the Tories on pay, but they were also shafted by them when it comes to the quality of society. Retail workers provide a service; health workers provide a service and help save lives. No comparison. Thumbs up to all workers providing a service, especially the life savers.
ALL NHS STAFF DESERVE A PAY RISE. THE NHS STAFF RISKED THEIR LIVES DURING THE PANDEMIC AND SOME EVEN LOST THEIR LIVES. MALONE IS A TOTAL DISGRACE AND NIGHTMARE AND SHE SHOULDN'T BE ON TV SAYING THAT THE NHS STAFF DON'T DESERVE A PAY RISE, OMFG SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COPE WITH THE SORT OF SHIT THAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS. NURSES AND DOCTORS HAVE BEEN THREATENED WITH VIOLENCE
He works in a food hall. Healthcare professionals and teachers have degrees and are required to commit to Continuing Professional Development to continually update their skills. I'm sure he works hard, but he's not dealing with life and death or children's education. We are constantly told that we must let bankers and CEOs pay themselves like lottery winners. Because that's how we compete for the "best talent". But that same logic doesn't apply to the NHS, where we have 100,000 nursing vacancies? The market has spoken. NHS staff are emigrating to Australia. More pay less work - and no Malone.
Channel 5 show programmes like 50 worst celebrity cock- ups nearly every night of the week. They must have enough material for every night for years of Carol Malone’s biggest load of bullshit on Viles show.
|'m sure a retailer doesn't risk catching awful sometimes deadly diseases or deal with unpleasant wounds on a daily basis, how can a retailer say this, I'm sure if I went to a deserted island and I had to choose one person out of a retailer or nurse I would choose a nurse.
As a Cancer survivor, and the amazing care I received from the nurses, they deserve a large pay rise. Patrick should join a Union and organise in the workplace, and stop crying.
Kudos to all the panellists who calmly deconstruct Malone's arguments brick by brick. They show the patience of a saint as she loses the argument on a regular basis. I could be mistaken but I don't think I have seen Owen Jones on the panel with her.
Each job has a part to play in the economy, but FFS this Patrick guy is he honestly trying to say that a retail worker should get paid as much as an NHS worker? Patrick works in a food court for a retailer I bet his wages are the same as those working in the food courts in the hospitals. I worked in retail as a student and one thing our manager used to say to us all the time was " If you are not happy with that you are earning here...leave.....There are always students who need beer money" Which basically meant we were easily replaced, Nurses and Doctors are not so easy to replace. Here is a novel suggestion for Patrick, if you are not earning enough retrain for a role that pays more and if you aren't prepared to do that then just shut up.
AHH but he's been listening to froggage. My stupidity, ignorance is equal to your knowledge. Kinds like I'm a banana salesman and I know enough to to diagnose and cure your cancer
Patrick is a shop assistant, nurses are qualified to degree status ( self funded ) not a comparable job. Nursing is a profession, shop assistant is not.
I've seen the work that NHS staff do, day in day out, whilst looking after my now late-wife (and she wasn't an easy patient, by any means!). You can't put a price on the level of care they provide to people at their most vulnerable and scared! To my mind, one Nurse or Doctor is worth a million Malones and if the money should go anywhere, it's to the NHS and it's staff. Mediocre "journalists" are "10-a-penny"; Doctors and Nurses are worth their weight in gold!
I'm a Chef and we're underpaid. Doesn't mean I think I should get as much as a nurse. They have to do more training and they are doing a much more important job. Also depending on what department they work in if they they make a mistake someone can die. I don't think Carol malone should be paid a penny though.
Nurses and medical professionals need a degree, they need to pay that back. They are skilled workers, I have nothing against shop workers in fact I have worked in a shop, however did not spend years training for that. Nor did I need to deal with trauma, poo, blood, grief, etc. This whole argument is pathetic and if you don't get enough working in a shop, train to be a nurse!. Vine is horrible, don't mention his bike?. Malone is just a horrible human being, the end.
Well for a start, you don't need any qualifications to work in retail! I wonder how many "people like Patrick" have a massive student loan debt that is taken from their pay cheques every month?
How can creatures like Malone even exist today. Whoever pays her should drop her salary to a nurses or even a shop workers level of salary. Let the queen of hairspray shout the odds then.
How dare Patrick & Carol spead 💩💩 on TV about hospital staff payments have they forgotten how much work hours an risking all there lives throughout COVID times. I hope when they call a ambulance for themselves it turns up to late for them bigtime
I work in retail it is hard but no where near as intense as nursing. Especially hospital nursing. The reason why us retail workers don't get raises is a different story. If we had raises everyone would have to pay more for what they buy.
Introduce supermarket retail price regulations and EVERY SINGLE POCKET IN THE COUNTRY WILL BE BETTER OFF because we can tackle their grossly indecent profiteering.
All she does is rant and scream. She never allows anyone of differing opinions to finish what they’re saying. And I’m so tired of the performative “debates” on shows like this.
There should be an announcement before she appears on television, stating that many people will find the following person offensive to look at, please avert your eyes to avoid shock and possible collapse.😂
Working hard and having responsibility of human life are far different things. You want good wages.... Don't work in retail, their shareholders thank them for efforts.
He's Jeremy vile, as in vile piece of shit? Just asking. And he has Widdishits, just moan, mike te@tt etc on and won't let anyone speak against them. Boot him off or make him do his job a la Matthew Wright
DOH! Malone is not stupid and knows nurses have to study for 3/4 yrs to become registered, are regulated by a professional body (ie. Poor standards/conduct and you can lose your job and registration) and make decisions and have responsibilities affecting people's lives. Retail workers are not a comparable group of workers.
So, working in food haul is the exact same if not, harder than teaching the future generation to be able to function in society and caring for the ill and vulnerable. Give your head a wobble Pat mate...
What level of tertiary education did the caller undertake to gain his status working in a food hall ? He’s a fan of driving salaries down to lowest level . As for. Malone I just don’t know why she keeps being given a forum for her personal bile , I suspect it’s just for laughs at the nonsense she spouts.
I agree with one point she makes against the others - pay awards should not be made on the basis of what one group or another of workers "deserves", setting up competitive sob stories. A shop worker is as entitled to a living wage as a health worker. Whether Carole seriously supports living wages for all is another question.
@@ChrisBrown-px1oyso someone who has trained for years doesn't deserve more than someone who's done a whole weeks in the job training. You are insane. working for a better position must be rewarded or well all just be F**king back in the stone age
@facthunt2facthunt245 It's factual not disrespectful to point out that the necessary level of education and the amount of responsibility inherent in the roles of retail workers and health care professionals are vastly different.
Malone still get paid for talking and that’s it bloody useless to all of us,his tax he pays just a small amount goes to nurses,l bet he gets out more than he puts in
How about how much Carole Malone gets paid for her trash journalism? Perhaps she should consider a pay cut if she thinks nurses get too much.
Malone on GBP 160,000 a year allegedly. Nurses start on GBP 24,907 and average GBP 34,000 a year.
Windbag Carol couldn't do any of those jobs.
Yes sorry Pat, nurses ARE more important than you.
Here's hoping pat doesn't need a nurse anytime soon.
Especially now they've seen his face.
Every job has its own importance so i do disagree slightly with you i Securtiy officer and we get looked down at with some people so this why i disagree i will also some jobs we would not be able to function with these people
Everyone is entitled to a decent wage, doctor's and nurses weren't the only ones working during COVID, police officers, supermarket staff postal staff and many more.
Believe me there's plenty of nurses on very high salaries.
I think everyone should be valued and we all need each other.
Malone constantly criticises what working people earn but happy for her rich Tory mates to avoid paying tax, she so full of her own importance even though if she vanished tomorrow no one would miss her in fact the world would be a nicer place
She should earn less than them.
The caller has demonstrated that he's an unqualified worker and expects to be paid the same a nurse and just like him, Carole is too thick to recognise it.
Someone with no qualifications who works in a shop thinks they should get paid as much as a qualified nurse?
Thats the logic of rangers fans
I'm not finishing 2024 watching malone , she's gut churning .
Carol Malone - the living embodiment dark underbelly of the establishment - it’s all hate, hate and more hate.
Don't forget the huge dollop of 'f**k you, i'm alright Jack' too.
Evil woman
Well done Marvin for standing up to Carole "the snowflake" Malone.
I worked in retail for many years, some shifts as long as 19 hours. It can be very hard work and you are unappreciated. But it's not a comparison to what nurses and NHS staff do and have had to put up with since the pandemic. Retail workers receive a pay rise if their company's branch''s profits are beyond a certain level (incremental but still increase). It's a team effort (that can be laughable). Nurses do not get such rises. Nurses were shafted by the Tories on pay, but they were also shafted by them when it comes to the quality of society. Retail workers provide a service; health workers provide a service and help save lives. No comparison. Thumbs up to all workers providing a service, especially the life savers.
That guy probably hates trade unions - enough said!
Plastic Glaswegian like Malone is a plastic Geordie.
I don't think Carol is getting paid enough to spout her vile nonsense on these talk shows - I think she should go on strike....forever!!
ALL NHS STAFF DESERVE A PAY RISE. THE NHS STAFF RISKED THEIR LIVES DURING THE PANDEMIC AND SOME EVEN LOST THEIR LIVES. MALONE IS A TOTAL DISGRACE AND NIGHTMARE AND SHE SHOULDN'T BE ON TV SAYING THAT THE NHS STAFF DON'T DESERVE A PAY RISE, OMFG SHE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO COPE WITH THE SORT OF SHIT THAT THEY DO ON A DAILY BASIS. NURSES AND DOCTORS HAVE BEEN THREATENED WITH VIOLENCE
My partner and her daughter wore bin bags during COVID because people like carol Malone vote for the Tories and reform.
A disgrace to our species.
He works in a food hall. Healthcare professionals and teachers have degrees and are required to commit to Continuing Professional Development to continually update their skills. I'm sure he works hard, but he's not dealing with life and death or children's education.
We are constantly told that we must let bankers and CEOs pay themselves like lottery winners. Because that's how we compete for the "best talent". But that same logic doesn't apply to the NHS, where we have 100,000 nursing vacancies? The market has spoken. NHS staff are emigrating to Australia. More pay less work - and no Malone.
Channel 5 show programmes like 50 worst celebrity cock- ups nearly every night of the week. They must have enough material for every night for years of Carol Malone’s biggest load of bullshit on Viles show.
Carole Malone is my scum bucket of the year, decade and century.
That man is a pratt when did he last save a life , and Molone is a horrible horrible woman
Well according to him hasn't he saved countless lives by videoing drivers obeying the law whist riding through/walking through red lights. Just asking
I agree with this guy, carol the next time you are sick go to Patrick, foolish woman
i am a road sweeper and don't get the wages of a pilot !! disgusting !!! Carole Malone would have a fit if she knew !!
I used to be a Retail Manager.
Absolutely no way was the position comparable to Nursing. Pat needs Psychiatric help.
He should be angry with likes of Tesco giving there CEO pay rise of £4.4 million pound pay rise or get job in hospital millions of vacancies.
|'m sure a retailer doesn't risk catching awful sometimes deadly diseases or deal with unpleasant wounds on a daily basis, how can a retailer say this, I'm sure if I went to a deserted island and I had to choose one person out of a retailer or nurse I would choose a nurse.
The difference between Carol Malone and the nurses is that the nurses care about people and they actually do something to earn their money !
Id love to see Malone stacking shelves!
As a Cancer survivor, and the amazing care I received from the nurses, they deserve a large pay rise.
Patrick should join a Union and organise in the workplace, and stop crying.
She's more like a spunk bucket😂
Well rather you then me but good luck with that pal 🫡
Kudos to all the panellists who calmly deconstruct Malone's arguments brick by brick. They show the patience of a saint as she loses the argument on a regular basis. I could be mistaken but I don't think I have seen Owen Jones on the panel with her.
Each job has a part to play in the economy, but FFS this Patrick guy is he honestly trying to say that a retail worker should get paid as much as an NHS worker? Patrick works in a food court for a retailer I bet his wages are the same as those working in the food courts in the hospitals. I worked in retail as a student and one thing our manager used to say to us all the time was " If you are not happy with that you are earning here...leave.....There are always students who need beer money" Which basically meant we were easily replaced, Nurses and Doctors are not so easy to replace. Here is a novel suggestion for Patrick, if you are not earning enough retrain for a role that pays more and if you aren't prepared to do that then just shut up.
AHH but he's been listening to froggage. My stupidity, ignorance is equal to your knowledge. Kinds like I'm a banana salesman and I know enough to to diagnose and cure your cancer
Thanks to the NHS for all they done for my Mum and Dad. Supermarkets and shops didn’t do anything for them. I didn’t expect them to.
She could strip paint with that voice.
Not to mention her face. Her TV appearances should be limited to after the watershed so she doesn't give children nightmares.
Patrick is a shop assistant, nurses are qualified to degree status ( self funded ) not a comparable job. Nursing is a profession, shop assistant is not.
There are some really sad people in UK . This call is as thick two planks
She'll need us before we EVER, and i mean EVER need her
I've seen the work that NHS staff do, day in day out, whilst looking after my now late-wife (and she wasn't an easy patient, by any means!). You can't put a price on the level of care they provide to people at their most vulnerable and scared! To my mind, one Nurse or Doctor is worth a million Malones and if the money should go anywhere, it's to the NHS and it's staff. Mediocre "journalists" are "10-a-penny"; Doctors and Nurses are worth their weight in gold!
Nurses pay tax as well. This stupid argument that people who work in public sector don’t pay tax as well
Sounds like Patrick should join a union and lobby his employers for a pay rise. But I suspect he hates those too.
I worked in a foodhall for Marks. I was pretty good, but i never saved a life
I'm a Chef and we're underpaid. Doesn't mean I think I should get as much as a nurse. They have to do more training and they are doing a much more important job. Also depending on what department they work in if they they make a mistake someone can die. I don't think Carol malone should be paid a penny though.
Nurses and medical professionals need a degree, they need to pay that back. They are skilled workers, I have nothing against shop workers in fact I have worked in a shop, however did not spend years training for that. Nor did I need to deal with trauma, poo, blood, grief, etc. This whole argument is pathetic and if you don't get enough working in a shop, train to be a nurse!. Vine is horrible, don't mention his bike?. Malone is just a horrible human being, the end.
Who cares what she says!
In retail if someone keeps over you call an ambulance. In a hospital the nurses are responsible for caring for that person.
With respect to food workers but they don’t go through a degree to work unlike nurses. Pathetic equivalence.
There is an obvious reason that guy works in retail if he thinks his job can be measured against teachers or the likes of nurses ffs...
Yes, as is the caller !
Well for a start, you don't need any qualifications to work in retail! I wonder how many "people like Patrick" have a massive student loan debt that is taken from their pay cheques every month?
If pat did a night in A&E he would change his mind.
Nurses are working 12 hours a dayon minimum wages.
Would Malone if in hospital rather be looked after by a nurse or retail worker?
Zelda looks like that due to her diet of bile and bitter tears. Apparently she’s not over 80!! Who knew. 😂😂😂
Hmm, maybe if you've never heard of retailers going on strike but are a retailer concerned about your income perhaps you need to unionise?
How are these people even on our screens? No disrespect to anyone in retail but bloody hell, get a grip
Malone is a proper ignoramus
It illustrates why the working class can never get their shit together - he agrees with 'Carole' even though she wouldn't give him her sh!t for free.
How can creatures like Malone even exist today. Whoever pays her should drop her salary to a nurses or even a shop workers level of salary. Let the queen of hairspray shout the odds then.
She won't be able to afford her hairspray then.
Why doesn't Carol subsidise Patrick's wages with her, no doubt, over inflated remuneration package?!
Malone is living proof of the Dunning Kruger effect.
How dare Patrick & Carol spead 💩💩 on TV about hospital staff payments have they forgotten how much work hours an risking all there lives throughout COVID times. I hope when they call a ambulance for themselves it turns up to late for them bigtime
I work in retail it is hard but no where near as intense as nursing. Especially hospital nursing.
The reason why us retail workers don't get raises is a different story. If we had raises everyone would have to pay more for what they buy.
Nurses now are bone lazy. The assistant nurses do most of the work, but it all has to be checked by a senior nurse!
I 2ork in retail i wouldn't mind paying a little more tax if it was used to pay nhs doctors n nurses
this mindset and panelists is the reason why I don't watch this show anymore
I pity her husband tbh. Imagine asking ‘ when’s my dinner ready Carol’.
Q torrent of abuse.
Good god, it’s married?
Poor bloke 😢
That charlie muggins has let himself go a lot !
I get fed up of that argument, you pick your own job, change it if you're not happy, bitter, horrible lot.
If you think nurses get good wages...get a job as a nurse. Theres always plenty of vacancies
Come on everybody, Pat thinks he works just as hard as a nurse, because he's on his feet all day!
Why do they give this Woman airtiime?
Useless Malone. Nasty piece of work.
Introduce supermarket retail price regulations and EVERY SINGLE POCKET IN THE COUNTRY WILL BE BETTER OFF because we can tackle their grossly indecent profiteering.
What utter rubbish , when you know something about retailing do let us know .
@ wow. Didnt the bot farm name you yet 😂
All she does is rant and scream. She never allows anyone of differing opinions to finish what they’re saying. And I’m so tired of the performative “debates” on shows like this.
There should be an announcement before she appears on television, stating that many people will find the following person offensive to look at, please avert your eyes to avoid shock and possible collapse.😂
Working hard and having responsibility of human life are far different things. You want good wages.... Don't work in retail, their shareholders thank them for efforts.
Why do they have such a divisive, disgusting woman on this show so often?
Carol .... cunning stunt
Conservaties should of sorted this out over the 14years of them been in power. 😊
The Glaswegian guy is definitely a rangers fan.
Glaswegian here. Agree.
He’ll vote Tory as well.
Thats right. Sellick fans dont work. Just sponge
Surely Viles Kyle. Maybe Vine can be Jeremy Swine
He's Jeremy vile, as in vile piece of shit? Just asking. And he has Widdishits, just moan, mike te@tt etc on and won't let anyone speak against them. Boot him off or make him do his job a la Matthew Wright
DOH! Malone is not stupid and knows nurses have to study for 3/4 yrs to become registered, are regulated by a professional body (ie. Poor standards/conduct and you can lose your job and registration) and make decisions and have responsibilities affecting people's lives. Retail workers are not a comparable group of workers.
I bet Malone (who rants about how all professions are equally important), will have a "No farmers, no food" tattoo...
Personally I say no farmers paying good wages, and not stealing 75% back through shit food and accommodation long live. Until that let them suffe
You don't need a university degree to stack shelves mate. I'm not looking down on that type of work, but come on! 😂
So, working in food haul is the exact same if not, harder than teaching the future generation to be able to function in society and caring for the ill and vulnerable.
Give your head a wobble Pat mate...
Public and private sectors are years apart. But you have to have dozy people on shows like this to keep up the ratings.
I bet pat doesn’t clean up crap and sick on daily basis
They do say being nasty makes you ugly, seems Malone has proven it.
They should put her on carers money see how long she last
Was Carol bringing an argument for communism here without realising it?
What level of tertiary education did the caller undertake to gain his status working in a food hall ? He’s a fan of driving salaries down to lowest level . As for. Malone I just don’t know why she keeps being given a forum for her personal bile , I suspect it’s just for laughs at the nonsense she spouts.
Carol Malone talking out of the bottom yet again
That’s why Parrick works in retail !! No offence!
Yes, yes, you're so much better than everyone. Congratulations.
Good luck with her getting a ambulance.
Malone is just not very bright. Ignore her stupidities.
I agree with one point she makes against the others - pay awards should not be made on the basis of what one group or another of workers "deserves", setting up competitive sob stories. A shop worker is as entitled to a living wage as a health worker. Whether Carole seriously supports living wages for all is another question.
She doesn’t
@iamg07 I'm.guessing not, but neither does anyone who argues from exceptionalism.
@@ChrisBrown-px1oyso someone who has trained for years doesn't deserve more than someone who's done a whole weeks in the job training. You are insane. working for a better position must be rewarded or well all just be F**king back in the stone age
Yes everyone deserves a living wage BUT higher training=more money
She’s so vile
I think a nurse is worth a lot more than someone working in retail, no disrespect.
That is disrespectful. Every profession is useful. Patrick is still a working member of society.
@facthunt2facthunt245 It's factual not disrespectful to point out that the necessary level of education and the amount of responsibility inherent in the roles of retail workers and health care professionals are vastly different.
@facthunt2facthunt245 if that's the case we should all be paid the same. Is that not communism.
Malone still get paid for talking and that’s it bloody useless to all of us,his tax he pays just a small amount goes to nurses,l bet he gets out more than he puts in
Put pointless celebrities yesterday but turned off when I saw screechy Malone on it , she`s not a celebrity but she is pointless
Who does she ultimately work for?
This woman is toxic
And how much is Carole paid?
Malone = waste of space she's an irrelevant