Idk, I guess it's nice. Bret is an awesome actor, but wards time is up to be on the show and I don't know if having that "thing" be in wards body will work. I feel like it's just the producers trying to have their cake and eat it too.
+Fonzi M I agree...a super power as the head of Hydra...I see Ward crossing over in the the MCU film universe quite easily. Coulson has yet to be revealed alive to the others..AND he really needs Tony or Vision to create some great hardware for his hand......Ward is also a contender in the Thor universe via AoS...that Asgardian made Shield promise to Never re-open that portal...OOOPS Hydra did it....isn't Thor's watcher ALWAYS looking for disturbances in that rainbow realm thingy (forget the actual terms) What happened letting that Inhumapocalyse back on Earth HAD to cause some alarms to go off in Asgard
Way better mid season finale than the Flash one. That line about Tatooine was hilarious. I like how they inject humor even in serious scenes. This is something AoS excels at.
+cartoon80s90s it wasn't bad..just wasn't good.. it was a good episode just not a good season finale. it was on par with TWD midseason, eh? TWd was ight, Flash was ight, but holy damn AoS was just great
+cartoon80s90s must definitely not. Flash was pretty amazing, simply having Mark Hamil (better than mentioning Tatooine is having Luke Skywalker ) on the episode makes it better.
+akshay verma As an episode, the Flash finale was great. As a mid season finale, it was boring and didn't create tension at all. It's OK though. The plot they've come up with can't lead to cliffhangers when you want them. Still, I feel they could have a nice WTF moment instead of Wally West crushing their party. Maybe I'm the only one who found all this episode's scenes with Joe and Wally boring. Those were my least favorite scenes and dragged down the entire episode.
+DavijoMan agreed, unfortunately. He was such a great character, but it's not actually him anymore. It's another entity entirely using his body...for now. Hopefully it'll leave his body at some point for another host, after having healed Ward's body. That way we get to keep the creature and Ward can have a new arc dealing with everything that's happened to him. Or forgetting closure about it - since closure is overrated and all for him now - and hatching some new scheme.
Since Will-It was able to function at least peripherally as Will I think Ward-It will still have some of Ward in him. A vengeful asshole all-powerful creature, great. 'I have a purpose now' gg, Ward. Thanks, Quesada.
+DavijoMan Hmm not sure.. The creature obviously can have the memories of the host... Like when the creature controlled will and knew what happened with Jemma and so , knew Fitz...
+Wingedzero101 Yeah lol I was thinking the same thing because I thought 'no way can they kill off Ward' but then he did :( But we all know Coulson was gonna kill Ward as soon as he could. Never again would they save him or take him as a prisoner, he wanted to kill him
+Shadow Phoenix It sounded like the Unspoken. Jemma felt like It lost it's once great power or state. He was also someone trying to do good but ended in a bad way. Sounds like the Unspoken.
+Shadow Phoenix The Hive has the ability to take mental control of individuals by placing his squid/pod parasites on the body of any victim. The Hive is the perfect host for this parasitic species and has the ability to breed and centrally control these parasites. The Hive can shoot these parasites from various parts of his body including his hands and chest. The Hive speaks in some unknown language but certain members of HYDRA including Strucker and the Gorgon can understand him. The Hive also has enhanced strength and is formidable in hand-to-hand combat. Could be him also.
This episode got me on my edge, I really wanted will to live, I like joey's character a lot, he is like this genuinely good man in the middle of a bunch of cold bloded spies. When ward died I was like yasss, finally this spoiled brat is dead, and then like oh fuck, I thought he died and then like, yes he's dead, its that creature wo-ho and then like oh fuck, its that creature.
+Stephon Delvalle If this thing is the Hive like a lot fans are speculating then Ward could still be alive. He's just not in control of his body. His consciousness could be trapped so to speak. If the Hive is removed somehow then you could see the old Ward again or a newer new Ward.
Stephon Delvalle I don' think Ward was dead long enough. It takes 5 minutes after death for the human brain to suffer any permanent damage. so If this parasite restarted Ward's Heart and repaired his body in time you would think that would save what makes Ward Ward. I imagine this parasite just latches it self to the host's brain to take over and doesn't actually consume it or replace it.
+Brenden Jahleel well I prefer to enjoy movies and TV more by speculating with others as to see how close we are and not just google it... Sorry I mean Bing it!
+jimmy gallo-arsenal its not like he was talking about molecular biology.... Of all of AoS mis finale;s season's 2 mid season break was the best....simple, how did you not understand that.. Mueed i may disagree, ithink the s1 mid season was the best, it what made the show take off imo everything before that was boring, but that episode made the show amazing
I honestly loved this episode, even though im getting a little bit done with Ward surviving everything, he has been a big villain for a long time now, I feel like this shouldnt be dragged on for much longer
+Sourabh S Nath I liked Purple Man a lot. I liked Kingpin enough, but I think he's REALLY overrated. He did a lot of uncharacteristically dumb things toward the end, his "I am the robbers.." monologue was dull imo. I think Wesley was much more interesting to be honest. Regardless, Ward was indeed great
+Captain Scarlet I think you are right, I feel this way because this character has a clean slate...he is a whole new breed the TV/Film MCU people can move forward as they see fit...without worrying about taking the character too far away from it's comic book origins......in addition his existence HAS to be noted by the Asgardians...they watch all the realms and planet travels and what nots...then he is a Super Powered being and he is the head of Hydra...Avengers, Captain America...he could try to get his hands on the Winter Soldier......Ward/Inhumapocalypse has a long future in the MCU!!! as I see it
If Fury knew about that monolith,then he knows more then he leads on.FURY SEES ALL AND HE KNOWS ALL.Never forget that!He's like Santa...only with an eye patch and he doesn't care if you've bad or good as long as you fight for us,that is.
i think coulson dropping the hand was more of a "i dont want to be able to do that anymore" as im sure it was his prosthetics strength that allowed him to do that and i also think the evil guys saying "they could have been great" was because they rejected what he was and didnt want to become an inhuman, his version of great
hiii.. i have a confusion. i saw in a poster of civil war, there was a bird like jet behind the cap's team, and when agents of shield came up we saw the very same queenjet in the 1st episode. so dont you think there will be a crossover between civil war and tv series ??
I was sad that Fitz was unable to bring Will back for Gemma. The look on her face when the containment unit brought everyone back to their plane - it broke my heart.
quick question: if the it was possessing Will the entire time how did he know Fitzs when he first saw him? Does the it have retain the memories of its host?
does the creature keep any memories from the body it possesses (he knew about jemma etc)? something like eobard thawne did with harisson wells or something completely different?
I feel like the look Fitz and Coulson gave each other at the end was more mutual. They both killed someone that they both, in a way wanted dead. Fitz himself admitted wanting to harm him and you knew Coulson was on the warpath for Ward. Itll be interesting to see how this plays out. Im betting Coulson and Fitz will have a mutual guilt thing going on, even though Fitz really didn't kill that guy, I bet it still fed some sort of satisfaction in him. On the Ward note, I feel like the Whedon-verse has famously done this before with popular characters, where the character is killed off but their body is re-inhabited by a god like being (See Fred/Illyria from Angel) and almost re-purposes the character arc. --Big fan thanks for all you do!!
Anyone else notice that Cap's shield is pretty horribly damaged in the still at 7:03? Wonder if that's intentional, or if the prop got damaged and nobody noticed.
I was saving this question for a QnA but a tissue rebuilder exist in the marvel universe can they just rebuild coulson's hand like they did to that huge wound Hawkeye had in AOU
I'm so relieved that the monster took the image of Ward instead of Fitz or Coulson. Because that scene where Fitz and Coulson came back and were staring at each other had me thinking that the monster was one of them.
theory: inhuman powers randomly manifest with some type of yin and yang, karma like balancing mechanism, so maybe Slash's tendency to want to hunt inhumans will eventually manifest as a need to hunt the biggest and baddest inhuman [or in"shushie" ] -Ward's Symbiote.
I love what they did with ward's character. I think it was perfect. the show really did everything they could have with done with him and I completely agree with you sayimg that it was a little much by making ward more and more crazy. I think it's the perfect next step for him by killing off the ward character but using him( and possibly his memories or hatred) to introduce and fuel this new big bad hydra creature.
That was a bittersweet death for Ward. He finally released the pent up pain, admitted to his wrongs and finally accepted who he was. Perfect way to kill him off!
Wait, isn't there ten episodes this season for Agent Carter?? Or are you referring to the fact that it will run for 8 weeks since it's gonna have a two hour season premier(and maybe a season finale 2??).
i think the hydra creature is the first Hydra. if you look carefully at Ward's head you will see a tentacle moving much like the tentacles in Hydra logo.
I think you are off a bit on this. The Creature that is in ward is the Hive. And on one of the containers there is a V. Rodriguez. I think it's Yo-yo Rodriguez who is Slingshot in the Secret Warriors. Fun fact: The Hive shows up in Secret Warriors #2
yes joey did not know he could stop the gun shot he just throw himself to keep dasiy safe i am guessing since she saved him he felt he owns her big time
what makes you think the alien is an Inhuman? I can't connect Hydra of First Avenger with the Inhumans it makes more sense for it to be just an alien just wanted to know your input
It was a great and intense episode, but I think they didn't make Fitz killing Will as dramatic as Coulson killing Ward, I mean it didn't need much just some more dramatic music when he fired it Hopefully this'll mean Coulson will get a Vibranium hand now, but that'll likely be after Civil War when Black Panther is onside, Mack did really well as the director too
I was literally cheering and jumping up and down when ward was killed. Hes "dead but was posesed, so technically, he is truly dead, his corpse has just been posesed. I AM SO HAPPY
The mid season finale was amazing! I feel the Ward twist was just brilliant! Coulson crushing his chest was AAAWWWWWEEESSSOOMMMEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe Agents of Shield is gearing up for more Marvel Universe interactions....film wise. Coulson came from the film genre of Marvel and has lots and lots of untouched/untapped story arc with each of the individual Avengers. Additionally, the films believe they destroyed Hydra...but Ward has resurrected it in a way the Avengers can not ignore,,,in my opinion Daisy and Ward and Coulson have every reason to move into the films. With the word of Mockingbird.....I can see Hunter and Mockingbird, Mac, May somehow working with Black Window and other un-powered film super heroes,....and since u mentioned him...could you Just SEE Lokey and Ward teaming up for mischief?!!! The possibilities are endless!
+Bev Hill-Garrett Sorry to crush your dreams, but in Joss Whedons contract for Age of Ultron it stated that Coulson could not appear in any MCU movies. He regrets bringing him back to life because it makes his death in the first Avengers mean much less.
MrCheeselover88 well my dreams aren't crushed :D ...and in Hollywood 'never' doesn't really mean never...old Joss could be persuaded to renegotiate that clause at any old time.....my feelings on his regret about bringing him back to life...doubt it.....AoS would not BE without Coulson's resurrection and Agent Carter would Not be without AoS.....it was the hiatus of AoS that gave that TV show it's momentum.....and his being alive via Tahiti in no way lessens his death in the Avengers movie....just as Pepper miraculously was cured in the Iron Man and Tony creating a non existent metal and not dying of that other thingy poisoning him....Joss is trippin
Bev Hill-Garrett Yeah but Marvel are legally bound to not include him in any movies they make up until Infinity Wars part 2, so we could see him after but don't expect him any time soon.
the Ward twist is awesome but i think once they defeat that inhuman the Ward carácter will be gone i think its posible this is ward's last season in agents of shield
I really liked the way they had Will be the creature, but not have been the creature all along. I think having him die when Jemma left and then get possessed, rather than having him secretly be the creature before. I was also hoping that Ward would end up possessed by the creature, and he did. I just thought that would be the most interesting way to go with Ward (and with the creature).
Any idea if Agent Carter will have more villains in it this time? I really liked the first season but I want it to reference/bring in younger versions or family members of todays heroes/villains like Gotham has been doing
So is that creature like a kind of snake parasite thing? It takes over another body but must still must be able to access everything that person knew as well. Which could be bad news now that its in Ward.....
Everyone is saying that that creature is "The Hive". Also, Agent Carter should be 9 weeks because the premiere is the first 2 episodes but I have no idea if they'll double up on the finale.
The ancient being taking over Ward's corpse reminded me so much of Illyria from Angel. Sure Illyria hollowed out Fred who unlike Ward was actually a good person but just the concept of something old and ancient borrowing the husk of a main character and still has access to that person's memories is very Illyria. It made for a useful tool in torturing the remaining characters with Fred's memory, as I am sure they will use "it" to screw with Coulson.
1 of my top wtf moments for me personally was when Ward beat on Simmons while Fitz sat there and heard her screams, he was in a difficult position and i think it was stomach turning to hear someone you love get beaten and screaming.
For all those who say they hate WARD, or want him to hurry up and die.....you're still watching the show though aren't you? I love the WARD character, awesome death scene, and now using WARD as the UberVillain just the exact thing to do....AWESOME job AOS AWESOME indeed......thanks to you again Charlie, for uploading, stay awesome!!!!!
i think the inhuman will be controlling the body, but ward will still be in the conscience of the body, so i think ward isn't completely dead, ward will probably conflict with the inhuman thingy.
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A ancient gate to another planet with worm like evil aliens that move from body to body, think they are goods, and nearly immortal, I think I have seen this before.
Sorry if someone else said it and I didn't see it in the hundreds of comments. I think Agent Carter will be 10 eps this year (as opposed to 8 eps last year). Not sure if there will be a double-episode airing at all, but my guess would be yes if they are adjusting the airing schedule.
Perhaps Lash will take out Hydra god/Ward in the season finale. For older viewers, I feel like "IT" moving from body to body was like Twin Peaks' "Bob".
So does this mean that the Ward character is completely done with? Will Brett Dalton now be playing only as this ancient alien? Or will there still be elements of the Ward character that affects the alien since it is Ward's body that it decided to possess?
+Charles Ailsworth My take on it: Ward is dead-dead. The alien will still possess some knowledge of his life and memories, though . . . like it did with Will. On the AfterBuzzTV Shield panel, they talked about how it was fitting for the alien to know things about Will's life while he was talking to Fitz, because memories are actually stored in specific brain cells. As long as the alien learns how to trigger certain neurons in the brain, it can potentially "read" and maybe even "feel" a memory. There are studies by MIT about where exactly in the brain this takes place if you want to Google it. TL;DR Ward is gone, but the alien (Hive?maybe) may retain some of Ward's memories and preferences.
+indig0ice That would be interesting to have the alien be able to pull from Ward's memories. It could fight SHIELD agents and be able to mock and taunt them as well as use Ward's knowledge to exploit their weaknesses without having the drawbacks of Ward's own personal emotions.
Aw Wards reveal as a bad guy in Season 1 was amazing in my opinion. Like it's obvious that while a lot of what he did beforehand was an act that he still liked the other characters, which made him a really interesting villain.
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It's cool how the show doesn't kill off Brett Dalton but kills the Ward character off...
+Fonzi M I give it the rest of the season then Brett's character will be gone.
Idk, I guess it's nice. Bret is an awesome actor, but wards time is up to be on the show and I don't know if having that "thing" be in wards body will work. I feel like it's just the producers trying to have their cake and eat it too.
+Fonzi M They did something similar with the show "Angel," when Fred died, but we still had Illyria
+Fonzi M But as the Grinder would say, "but did they?"
+Fonzi M I agree...a super power as the head of Hydra...I see Ward crossing over in the the MCU film universe quite easily. Coulson has yet to be revealed alive to the others..AND he really needs Tony or Vision to create some great hardware for his hand......Ward is also a contender in the Thor universe via AoS...that Asgardian made Shield promise to Never re-open that portal...OOOPS Hydra did it....isn't Thor's watcher ALWAYS looking for disturbances in that rainbow realm thingy (forget the actual terms) What happened letting that Inhumapocalyse back on Earth HAD to cause some alarms to go off in Asgard
Way better mid season finale than the Flash one. That line about Tatooine was hilarious. I like how they inject humor even in serious scenes. This is something AoS excels at.
+cartoon80s90s it wasn't bad..just wasn't good.. it was a good episode just not a good season finale. it was on par with TWD midseason, eh? TWd was ight, Flash was ight, but holy damn AoS was just great
+cartoon80s90s must definitely not. Flash was pretty amazing, simply having Mark Hamil (better than mentioning Tatooine is having Luke Skywalker ) on the episode makes it better.
Thisnwas good but Flash was amazing ,best midseason finale ever
+akshay verma
As an episode, the Flash finale was great. As a mid season finale, it was boring and didn't create tension at all. It's OK though. The plot they've come up with can't lead to cliffhangers when you want them. Still, I feel they could have a nice WTF moment instead of Wally West crushing their party. Maybe I'm the only one who found all this episode's scenes with Joe and Wally boring. Those were my least favorite scenes and dragged down the entire episode.
Flash midseason finale had many litlle subplots and was quality TV , for me it was one of better midseason episodes this fall
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I don't think you can call him Ward anymore. Ward is dead, the creature is just animating his corpse.
+DavijoMan Call him squidward
+DavijoMan i've been calling it maveth (the title of the episode)
+DavijoMan agreed, unfortunately. He was such a great character, but it's not actually him anymore. It's another entity entirely using his body...for now. Hopefully it'll leave his body at some point for another host, after having healed Ward's body. That way we get to keep the creature and Ward can have a new arc dealing with everything that's happened to him. Or forgetting closure about it - since closure is overrated and all for him now - and hatching some new scheme.
Since Will-It was able to function at least peripherally as Will I think Ward-It will still have some of Ward in him. A vengeful asshole all-powerful creature, great. 'I have a purpose now' gg, Ward. Thanks, Quesada.
+DavijoMan Hmm not sure.. The creature obviously can have the memories of the host... Like when the creature controlled will and knew what happened with Jemma and so , knew Fitz...
Posting *Arrow Mid Season Finale* after the episode tonight. Also lots of new Marvel phase 3 footage I'll work through tomorrow :)
What did you think of the episode?
that cool. plz reply I was first
nice vid man, as always
The creature that took over Ward is called the Hive Search it up!
Comicbookcast2 said the mystery inhuman is called "The Hive"
Did this episode remind anyone of the Geonosian worms episode from Star Wars:The Clone Wars?
Yes! Damn I love Clone Wars
I actually thought coulson was gonna forgive ward and take him through the portal.....then I was like what.... the....??!. ward cannot die
+Wingedzero101 yeah Coulson was going to bring him back until Ward attacked him.
+Wingedzero101 Yeah lol I was thinking the same thing because I thought 'no way can they kill off Ward' but then he did :( But we all know Coulson was gonna kill Ward as soon as he could. Never again would they save him or take him as a prisoner, he wanted to kill him
+Kyle William Livingston no he would never forgive him
AvatarDan I never said anything about Coulson forgiving Ward.
Kyle William Livingston he was always going to kill him on the planet once he led him back to the portal
Coulson caving in Wards chest was just awesome
I'm actually sad Ward died, liked that character. I'm probably the only one who also liked him as a good character
+Samay Shah alot of people like him.
I liked him as a bad guy
+Samay Shah Yeah, I always liked him. His S1 reveal was such a betrayal. I thought Dalton has done a great job portraying a complicated character.
+Samay Shah Gotta agree with you. One of my favourite MCU villains (although I guess he does just fall under 'Hydra' in terms of MCU villains?)
I think everyone loved ward
I love how Mack is giving everybody nicknames... :D
At one point, he calls Daisy, Joey and Lincoln the "Power Rangers". :D
Well this is better than the flash mid season finale
Not by much though, I bet arrow's will top it
Yeah me too
I thought flash was better. it didn't have a DBZ minute at the end when the portal was closing
Exactly
+Jack Waterhouse arrow did top it!
I just finished watching this episode and I am watching this the second it came out
+Mohammed Ahmed me too
Season 1: Ward kills Hand
Season 3: Hand kills ward
So the Inhuman It is a slug?
I think so
Yeah
the world's greatest threat is a slug interesting
+Shadow Phoenix It sounded like the Unspoken. Jemma felt like It lost it's once great power or state. He was also someone trying to do good but ended in a bad way. Sounds like the Unspoken.
+Shadow Phoenix The Hive has the ability to take mental control of individuals by placing his squid/pod parasites on the body of any victim. The Hive is the perfect host for this parasitic species and has the ability to breed and centrally control these parasites. The Hive can shoot these parasites from various parts of his body including his hands and chest. The Hive speaks in some unknown language but certain members of HYDRA including Strucker and the Gorgon can understand him. The Hive also has enhanced strength and is formidable in hand-to-hand combat. Could be him also.
Everyone's calling the new villain "SquidWard"
I love how the keep ward Going , lol he is my favorite and he keeps on getting better
This episode got me on my edge, I really wanted will to live, I like joey's character a lot, he is like this genuinely good man in the middle of a bunch of cold bloded spies.
When ward died I was like yasss, finally this spoiled brat is dead, and then like oh fuck, I thought he died and then like, yes he's dead, its that creature wo-ho and then like oh fuck, its that creature.
Stephon Delvalle he deserved, he was a good man.
what about Mack though, the guy was really impressive, a real leader, the perfect replacement for Coulson. imo Mack was the best character this season
Ward was my favorite character, he will be missed. RIP.
+Stephon Delvalle If this thing is the Hive like a lot fans are speculating then Ward could still be alive. He's just not in control of his body. His consciousness could be trapped so to speak. If the Hive is removed somehow then you could see the old Ward again or a newer new Ward.
Stephon Delvalle I don' think Ward was dead long enough. It takes 5 minutes after death for the human brain to suffer any permanent damage. so If this parasite restarted Ward's Heart and repaired his body in time you would think that would save what makes Ward Ward. I imagine this parasite just latches it self to the host's brain to take over and doesn't actually consume it or replace it.
+Patrick Snow 7 minutes, but yes you are right, this happens because you don't die until circulation reaches the heart again
It was such a graphic and raw death for Ward. I shivered when you could hear Ward's rib cage getting pushed out of position.
i call the big thing Maveth... The Hebrew word for Death
+Henry Hood Wash't that the title of this episode? you may be onto something, they gave us the name...but didn't name it lol.
+akshay verma Well it's better that "mysterious all powerful being from within the portal"
It's the Hive, look it up
+Brenden Jahleel well I prefer to enjoy movies and TV more by speculating with others as to see how close we are and not just google it... Sorry I mean Bing it!
+Henry Hood Glad I'm not the only one who was thinking this..
The look on Fitz' face when Simmons ran past him to look in the pod? *Heartbreaking*
Out of the mid season finales, I definitely think season 2s mid season finale was the best
what the fuck you saying
+jimmy gallo-arsenal its not like he was talking about molecular biology.... Of all of AoS mis finale;s season's 2 mid season break was the best....simple, how did you not understand that..
Mueed i may disagree, ithink the s1 mid season was the best, it what made the show take off imo everything before that was boring, but that episode made the show amazing
+akshay verma Wasn't the winter finale for season 1 where Coulson got kidnapped?
Mueed Khan im more then sure. Very good episode imo
I was so mad when Lash was released, all I though when Simmons unlocked the door was "All those potential secret warriors are gonna get killed"
Most epic Mid-Season Finale Ever!
I honestly loved this episode, even though im getting a little bit done with Ward surviving everything, he has been a big villain for a long time now, I feel like this shouldnt be dragged on for much longer
Agents of shield Had the best Mid season Finale ,Better than the CW shows: Arrow and Flash
To me out of all of shows on cw I watch I think supernatural was the best
thanks for the review man!! keep it up!
shield only comes back on march??
+Lucas Aquino yes but Agent Carter will be on in between, I think series 2 of that starts on 19th January. :)
that last shot of Brett Dalton had me screaming at screen " HOW CAN YOU GET HOTTER AND HOTTER EVERY TIME YOU TURN MORE EVIL!"
Ward is probably the greatest Marvel Villain in the MCU. Probably better than loki the way things are going.
Have you seen Daredevil or Jessica Jones? 'Cause Kingpin and The Purple Man are some of the best villains in Marvel's arsenal.
+Sourabh S Nath I liked Purple Man a lot. I liked Kingpin enough, but I think he's REALLY overrated. He did a lot of uncharacteristically dumb things toward the end, his "I am the robbers.." monologue was dull imo. I think Wesley was much more interesting to be honest. Regardless, Ward was indeed great
+Captain Scarlet I think you are right, I feel this way because this character has a clean slate...he is a whole new breed the TV/Film MCU people can move forward as they see fit...without worrying about taking the character too far away from it's comic book origins......in addition his existence HAS to be noted by the Asgardians...they watch all the realms and planet travels and what nots...then he is a Super Powered being and he is the head of Hydra...Avengers, Captain America...he could try to get his hands on the Winter Soldier......Ward/Inhumapocalypse has a long future in the MCU!!! as I see it
Kilgrave is the best
Kilgrave
The "creature" is Hive right? I mean, Malik says it embodies the characteristics of Hydra. So I think its a modified version of Hive.
agent carter will have 10 episodes this season not 8
If Fury knew about that monolith,then he knows more then he leads on.FURY SEES ALL AND HE KNOWS ALL.Never forget that!He's like Santa...only with an eye patch and he doesn't care if you've bad or good as long as you fight for us,that is.
Lashandrew is going to kill WardIt.
if that is true I'm going to be mad as hell
coulsen should kill him not lash
Don't you mean "SquidWARD" haha get it
+Quack Ducker AHAHAHAHAHA I JUST DIED AND MIGHT OF PEED MYSELF
Lashdrew
+Quack Ducker lol, nice
i think coulson dropping the hand was more of a "i dont want to be able to do that anymore" as im sure it was his prosthetics strength that allowed him to do that
and i also think the evil guys saying "they could have been great" was because they rejected what he was and didnt want to become an inhuman, his version of great
WARD HAS BE ALL FUCKED UP!! What is this thing?!
+DickieWorld ™ The "Big Bad" looks like a slug....
+DickieWorld ™ HIVE!! The Hive!
David Chen it looks like one of the aliens from Slither tbh
+DickieWorld ™ The "Big Bad" looks like a slug....
Woops. Double comment
gcirc Yes him!!! Very Cthulhu/Resident Evil looking!
hiii.. i have a confusion. i saw in a poster of civil war, there was a bird like jet behind the cap's team, and when agents of shield came up we saw the very same queenjet in the 1st episode. so dont you think there will be a crossover between civil war and tv series ??
squidward?
Original comment. Just like the other person who said the same thing.
Charlie, where did you get that desktop background? Also, do you think that the city on that other planet might be Attilan?
Somebody in the comments already suggested it but do you think that the evil Hydra slug thing is The Hive?
I was sad that Fitz was unable to bring Will back for Gemma. The look on her face when the containment unit brought everyone back to their plane - it broke my heart.
Joey: "I might be able to reinforce the doors, using my uhmmm... uhmm..."
Mockingbird: "Amazing super powers"
This cracked me up hard XD
quick question: if the it was possessing Will the entire time how did he know Fitzs when he first saw him? Does the it have retain the memories of its host?
does the creature keep any memories from the body it possesses (he knew about jemma etc)? something like eobard thawne did with harisson wells or something completely different?
I feel like the look Fitz and Coulson gave each other at the end was more mutual. They both killed someone that they both, in a way wanted dead. Fitz himself admitted wanting to harm him and you knew Coulson was on the warpath for Ward. Itll be interesting to see how this plays out. Im betting Coulson and Fitz will have a mutual guilt thing going on, even though Fitz really didn't kill that guy, I bet it still fed some sort of satisfaction in him.
On the Ward note, I feel like the Whedon-verse has famously done this before with popular characters, where the character is killed off but their body is re-inhabited by a god like being (See Fred/Illyria from Angel) and almost re-purposes the character arc.
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Anyone else notice that Cap's shield is pretty horribly damaged in the still at 7:03? Wonder if that's intentional, or if the prop got damaged and nobody noticed.
how did ward have the time to get up and make it into the wormhole?? and how does the creature move from body to body?? seem like a big leap to
So how long is it gonna take for the other episodes to start? Im on popcorntime and the midfinale hasent come out yet so i was wondering
nevermind :p
I was saving this question for a QnA but a tissue rebuilder exist in the marvel universe can they just rebuild coulson's hand like they did to that huge wound Hawkeye had in AOU
I'm so relieved that the monster took the image of Ward instead of Fitz or Coulson. Because that scene where Fitz and Coulson came back and were staring at each other had me thinking that the monster was one of them.
I was actually on the edge of my seat at the end of this episode!!!
Awsome videos keep up the good work.
7:06 You also definitely did not expect CBS to put in Marsian Manhunter.
theory: inhuman powers randomly manifest with some type of yin and yang, karma like balancing mechanism, so maybe Slash's tendency to want to hunt inhumans will eventually manifest as a need to hunt the biggest and baddest inhuman [or in"shushie" ] -Ward's Symbiote.
This show just keeps getting better
I actually loved how they revealed Ward in the first season. I thought it really made the entire show.
I love what they did with ward's character. I think it was perfect. the show really did everything they could have with done with him and I completely agree with you sayimg that it was a little much by making ward more and more crazy. I think it's the perfect next step for him by killing off the ward character but using him( and possibly his memories or hatred) to introduce and fuel this new big bad hydra creature.
I think that inhuman slug thing was actually "the hive"
There's a theory the mystery creature is Hive. A parasite able to possess people connected to Hydra.
I really liked this episode. The directing was spot on, and I loved Coulson's line about Tattoiine
That was a bittersweet death for Ward. He finally released the pent up pain, admitted to his wrongs and finally accepted who he was. Perfect way to kill him off!
I thought this would be the last time we ever saw Ward. They really surprised me that he came back with the creature in him.
Wait, isn't there ten episodes this season for Agent Carter?? Or are you referring to the fact that it will run for 8 weeks since it's gonna have a two hour season premier(and maybe a season finale 2??).
the best thing in every season that Brett Dalton is the center of each twist !great role
i think the hydra creature is the first Hydra. if you look carefully at Ward's head you will see a tentacle moving much like the tentacles in Hydra logo.
any chance sokovia accords could originate in AoS before coming up in civil war?
I think you are off a bit on this. The Creature that is in ward is the Hive. And on one of the containers there is a V. Rodriguez. I think it's Yo-yo Rodriguez who is Slingshot in the Secret Warriors. Fun fact: The Hive shows up in Secret Warriors #2
yes joey did not know he could stop the gun shot he just throw himself to keep dasiy safe
i am guessing since she saved him he felt he owns her big time
So this will brett dalton and (ward) character last season right ?charlie please answer it your videos are awesome man keep it up!!!
what makes you think the alien is an Inhuman? I can't connect Hydra of First Avenger with the Inhumans it makes more sense for it to be just an alien just wanted to know your input
It was a great and intense episode, but I think they didn't make Fitz killing Will as dramatic as Coulson killing Ward, I mean it didn't need much just some more dramatic music when he fired it
Hopefully this'll mean Coulson will get a Vibranium hand now, but that'll likely be after Civil War when Black Panther is onside, Mack did really well as the director too
I was literally cheering and jumping up and down when ward was killed. Hes "dead but was posesed, so technically, he is truly dead, his corpse has just been posesed. I AM SO HAPPY
The mid season finale was amazing! I feel the Ward twist was just brilliant! Coulson crushing his chest was AAAWWWWWEEESSSOOMMMEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I believe Agents of Shield is gearing up for more Marvel Universe interactions....film wise. Coulson came from the film genre of Marvel and has lots and lots of untouched/untapped story arc with each of the individual Avengers. Additionally, the films believe they destroyed Hydra...but Ward has resurrected it in a way the Avengers can not ignore,,,in my opinion Daisy and Ward and Coulson have every reason to move into the films. With the word of Mockingbird.....I can see Hunter and Mockingbird, Mac, May somehow working with Black Window and other un-powered film super heroes,....and since u mentioned him...could you Just SEE Lokey and Ward teaming up for mischief?!!! The possibilities are endless!
+Bev Hill-Garrett Sorry to crush your dreams, but in Joss Whedons contract for Age of Ultron it stated that Coulson could not appear in any MCU movies. He regrets bringing him back to life because it makes his death in the first Avengers mean much less.
"LOKI"
MrCheeselover88 well my dreams aren't crushed :D ...and in Hollywood 'never' doesn't really mean never...old Joss could be persuaded to renegotiate that clause at any old time.....my feelings on his regret about bringing him back to life...doubt it.....AoS would not BE without Coulson's resurrection and Agent Carter would Not be without AoS.....it was the hiatus of AoS that gave that TV show it's momentum.....and his being alive via Tahiti in no way lessens his death in the Avengers movie....just as Pepper miraculously was cured in the Iron Man and Tony creating a non existent metal and not dying of that other thingy poisoning him....Joss is trippin
Bev Hill-Garrett Yeah but Marvel are legally bound to not include him in any movies they make up until Infinity Wars part 2, so we could see him after but don't expect him any time soon.
the Ward twist is awesome but i think once they defeat that inhuman the Ward carácter will be gone i think its posible this is ward's last season in agents of shield
Now this is how u do a Mid season finale take notes The Walking Dead
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I really liked the way they had Will be the creature, but not have been the creature all along. I think having him die when Jemma left and then get possessed, rather than having him secretly be the creature before. I was also hoping that Ward would end up possessed by the creature, and he did. I just thought that would be the most interesting way to go with Ward (and with the creature).
Any idea if Agent Carter will have more villains in it this time? I really liked the first season but I want it to reference/bring in younger versions or family members of todays heroes/villains like Gotham has been doing
So is that creature like a kind of snake parasite thing? It takes over another body but must still must be able to access everything that person knew as well. Which could be bad news now that its in Ward.....
joey was awesome this episode. feels like there is going to be a Lash vs hydra creature, would be cool to see.
Charlie can you give us your theories on what that old inhuman creature is.
Everyone is saying that that creature is "The Hive". Also, Agent Carter should be 9 weeks because the premiere is the first 2 episodes but I have no idea if they'll double up on the finale.
Great episode, love the new ward twist
I think we all need to appreciate Mack as director of shield, hope to see more
The ancient being taking over Ward's corpse reminded me so much of Illyria from Angel. Sure Illyria hollowed out Fred who unlike Ward was actually a good person but just the concept of something old and ancient borrowing the husk of a main character and still has access to that person's memories is very Illyria. It made for a useful tool in torturing the remaining characters with Fred's memory, as I am sure they will use "it" to screw with Coulson.
1 of my top wtf moments for me personally was when Ward beat on Simmons while Fitz sat there and heard her screams, he was in a difficult position and i think it was stomach turning to hear someone you love get beaten and screaming.
For all those who say they hate WARD, or want him to hurry up and die.....you're still watching the show though aren't you? I love the WARD character, awesome death scene, and now using WARD as the UberVillain just the exact thing to do....AWESOME job AOS AWESOME indeed......thanks to you again Charlie, for uploading, stay awesome!!!!!
So what do we think "It" is? Hive, the secret warriors villain from the comics? Or a new creation of the show?
Everything is going on break at the same time I am, WHAT AM I GOING TO WATCH?!?!?
i think the inhuman will be controlling the body, but ward will still be in the conscience of the body, so i think ward isn't completely dead, ward will probably conflict with the inhuman thingy.
A ancient gate to another planet with worm like evil aliens that move from body to body, think they are goods, and nearly immortal, I think I have seen this before.
Sorry if someone else said it and I didn't see it in the hundreds of comments. I think Agent Carter will be 10 eps this year (as opposed to 8 eps last year). Not sure if there will be a double-episode airing at all, but my guess would be yes if they are adjusting the airing schedule.
+Caroline Aquino can't confirm or deny the episode count, but Next Episode is saying it's a double for the start on Jan 19
all i really want is just one epic reference of AOS in the civil war movie.
So I just watched this episode in the UK earlier. Man! That was awesome! So I think that the UK and US are all caught up now.
I like Ward's arc and can't wait to see the teams reaction when he surfaces next year. I also think Malik is in for a surprise.
Perhaps Lash will take out Hydra god/Ward in the season finale.
For older viewers, I feel like "IT" moving from body to body was like Twin Peaks' "Bob".
So does this mean that the Ward character is completely done with? Will Brett Dalton now be playing only as this ancient alien? Or will there still be elements of the Ward character that affects the alien since it is Ward's body that it decided to possess?
+Charles Ailsworth My take on it: Ward is dead-dead. The alien will still possess some knowledge of his life and memories, though . . . like it did with Will. On the AfterBuzzTV Shield panel, they talked about how it was fitting for the alien to know things about Will's life while he was talking to Fitz, because memories are actually stored in specific brain cells. As long as the alien learns how to trigger certain neurons in the brain, it can potentially "read" and maybe even "feel" a memory. There are studies by MIT about where exactly in the brain this takes place if you want to Google it.
TL;DR Ward is gone, but the alien (Hive?maybe) may retain some of Ward's memories and preferences.
+indig0ice That would be interesting to have the alien be able to pull from Ward's memories. It could fight SHIELD agents and be able to mock and taunt them as well as use Ward's knowledge to exploit their weaknesses without having the drawbacks of Ward's own personal emotions.
I really feel like the alien inhuman dude caused the wars on the other planet, like his power is making everyone go crazy in that regard.
Aw Wards reveal as a bad guy in Season 1 was amazing in my opinion. Like it's obvious that while a lot of what he did beforehand was an act that he still liked the other characters, which made him a really interesting villain.