CA v. MENENDEZ (1993): Lyle Menendez takes the stand
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- Опубликовано: 15 фев 2021
- TRIAL ARCHIVE: Brothers Lyle and Erik Menendez on trial for the August 1989 murders of their parents in the family's Beverly Hills mansion. The motive? The prosecution says it was greed. Or was it self-defense for childhood trauma?
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the fact that national television made fun of these two boys is insanee.....
I agree...my heart hurts for them and the innocence stolen from them.
They made fun of them????
@@Lisa-iw5yx yes. in a “comedy show” while the trial was going on...
yes, I remember skits on SNL
SNL, Hollywood. Most are All sellouts and part of the satanic order.
Okay they literally have proof that the father took naked photos of them when they were children, they were clearly abused. I’m literally sick to my stomach. They should be set free, they have suffered long enough.
I agree with you 100%. I was a kid when this trial occurred and had no idea that the brothers were raped and tortured most their lives.
EVERYONE needs to be aware these men are in prison 30 years later.
One of the biggest injustices I am aware of.
@Natalia vincencci Yes of course.. when they were like a child they said: Hey lets make some photos of our private spots so we can kill our parents and say it was abuse.... LIKE NATALIA YOU CANT BE FUCKING SERIOUS!!DO YOU EVEN LISTEN TO YOURSELF? OR DID YOU EVEN LISTEN TO THEIR TRIALS??
@Natalia vincencci you’re an idiot. Children don’t take photos of themselves in those regions, especially naked. The fact that you think it’s normal is concerning.
@Natalia vincencci Are you stupid? Kids don't take naked pictures of each other, if you did that as a kid you may need some psychological help.
@Natalia vincencci Then why were the photos (and the negatives) found among the parents' possessions in an envelope with the mother's signature on it? Get a life. And Erik was identified in one of the photos by a birth mark on his wrist.
The jury in this trial should be ashamed of themselves. These boys were tortured their whole lives and reacted out of trauma. This is NOT about money.
It was about money. Greedy spoiled brats
@@aleksandrac9335Thousands of money spent against almost a lifetime of abuse, threats, and manipulations?! You call that greedy and spoiled?!
Why believe them? They lied about having any involvement in their parents' murders until they were caught.
@@peterbreughel4440 yes they did because they wanted to experience being free for a while. The truth came out to the therapist. The one brother is responsible for telling the truth to someone
@@Bythesea449 So they lied because they didn't want to go to jail. How do you know they didn't do the same thing in court?
It’s unbelievable how after these brothers exposed themselves in front of everybody, they still got punished. So heartbreaking.
The justice system is fucked
It's really hard to be Jose & Kitty's son. They really didn't show them with the affection they needed. The hate towards there sons.
These two should be pardoned now. They done enough time.
Yes!!!!
Agree, they already have a life sentence. Tortured for life. Very sad.
I agree. I’m sad for them that they got life without any hope of parole when they came from such an abusive and horrendous background
💯 people that think this is all lies.. i can never understand them. Enough time now. Was horrific what they done but even worse what them lads went through. So sad it breaks my heart.
Who's going to pardon them? It won't happen under the current tyrant Gavin Newsom, that's for sure.
these boys are not murderers, they are victims and that wasn't a murder, it was justice!!!!!
They are murderers they confessed to it. Did you watch the video. Lyle clearly confesses.
@@kaylinwhite6584 that’s not what they meant. The brothers were convicted of first degree murder because of how corrupted their second trial was, they should’ve been convicted of voluntarily manslaughter. They’re killers yes, but not murders
they killed them to defend themselves, their parents were violent and abusive and molested their kids for years. i mean they didn't have any other choice at that point
They did but they had poor judgment of the situation.
sorry, i disagree
As a kid growing up people portrayed these boys like they were Ted Bundy. I don't remember ever being told they were abused.
It was all about how they had wanted money from their parents.
I've spent most if my life studying the behaviors of killers, the difference between hot and cool empathy.
There is no lie in this testimony.
I hurt for those boys. They deserved better.
I agree!
They are and were there mom did nothing
@@supme7558Their mother was abusing them as well. She knew of the abuse, she allowed it to happen. A family member told her, and she allowed her husband to do it. What kind of mother? I’m not saying she deserved death, but how would you feel if your mother allowed you to go through that…
Go get help tard
Saturday night live even did a skit about them at trial, with the actors dressed boyishly in pastel sweaters, giving melodramatic tears in the witness box. Essentially making fun of how these adult, vicious, greedy killers were trying to portray themselves as innocent little boys in these demure sweaters acting all over-the-top sad and woe-is-me.
But they weren't acting, or lying. They endured horrific abuse. But the culture at the time didn't really acknowledge sexual abuse against men, or even the severity of the effects of child abuse. Child abuse has only been a concept since about the 1970s. Before that, what happened in the home was private business that wasn't talked about outside the home, and corporeal punishment was an accepted method of parenting. Children were seen almost like property and however the parents controlled them was the family's business and at the parents discretion.
He was so happy when he talked about his grandparents
Ikr🥺
"Why'd you want to make your dad happy?"
"So he would love me"
Damn that's so sad, these poor boys
Omgg🥺🥺
The way this sentence hit so close to home
Etla
He wanted to keep his dad happy so he'd keep paying for his toupees/hairpieces.
@@itsjustaria how 🤔
his face changed and he looked happy when talking about his grandparents
So?
He reminisced the happy moments they spent with their grandparents where they are safe and been love unlike they felt with their parents
@@mariedewitt5033 what do you mean so? They just said he looked happy when he talked about his grandparents. There is no so.
Yeah was good to see him smile a bit - what a difference in the two worlds ... 😢
@@amileopard exactly
He’s very calm, polite, well spoken and handsome. He and his brother were undoubtedly abused sexually, emotionally and physically. It’s so unfair for them to be in prison.
Let’s get these men out of prison!!! Let’s free them!
We should do something!! Making protests but how?!!!
@@effy1954 unfortunately we can't free them unless laws in california will change..
Pobres chicos bueno ahora ya son adultos ya casi enpesando su vegez pues aqui en este video estaba muy joven fue cuando paso la desgracia en sus vidas pero ahora ese joven que ven alli ahora debe de tener canas esta empesando a envejeser tiene ahora 55 años.... pero ya merecen salir 👍
Is there anything that can be done?
And besides writing this comment, what did you achieve in getting these men our of prison.
1:19:06 please when he said sorry it broke my heart. He should not be sorry for getting upset over having to relive tragic and horrible memories of things his father did to him! Free them!!!
@@sunderlan412 so spending money is a greater sin than m0lesting your own kids, right? Okay, whatever you say 🙂
He was saying sorry to Erick 😢
Lyle did not have childhood AT ALL....
Even Erik
@@birinthareshimaa3446 Neither of them had an actual childhood. In addition to the abuse, there wasn't any time to play or be normal kids - they weren't encouraged to have friends, and when not in school they had to be focusing on athletics. Their parents took their childhood away.
@@Muirmaiden if it was a fact that they got molested and there was strong proof of it how could it have been possible that it be thrown out of court? I guess no matter what the law doesn’t look too kindly on murdering your own parents
@@yaboy4923 In the second trial, the judge and prosecution were desperate for a conviction after embarassing losses, and had defense evidence blocked and/or limited. Make no mistake, there was a lot of corruption in the D.A.'s Office.
@@Muirmaiden truee I just wish they both could be released from jail very soon
Everything that happened on August 20th, happened because Lyle wanted to protect his little brother
I love Lyle so much! That day Lyle confronted his father just a few days before the incident I don’t think Jose really understood how far Lyle would go to protect his younger brother. It warms my heart.
@@gx9954 Yes! Especially since Jose tried so hard to make Lyle and Erik enemies. Lyle was his "good" son and Erik his "throwaway" son, but in the end Lyle gave everything for Erik
I'm a mom to two little boys, and they are my everything! It breaks my heart that their parents were such monsters to them.
@Natalia vincencci What does that even mean? Apparently 18 year olds don't get raped or abused. Real smart. Multiple psychologists evaluated them and found them to be truthful about the abuse, and that they were mentally about 10 years old.
@Natalia vincencci i love the fact that Lyle was a protective older brother, your reading comprehension skills are bad
Its so clear that lyle didnt want to talk about the sexual abuse and he was struggling really hard. And after all that shameful secret they shared to public they still had to spend their whole life in prison? That is so not fair.
When Lyle tells Erik that he's sorry - the feedback and the trauma between these two, this is something you just cannot fake. It is absolutely horrible what happened to these two, I wish they could have found a better way out than to murder so that they could truly heal and live their lives.
Very true!
Judging from Erik's reaction, I felt as if he didn't forgive lyle 💔
@@sana_the_bookaholic I wouldn’t say that. Erik forgave his father for all the atrocities he committed against him, and Jose was an adult at the time. Why wouldn’t he forgive his 8 years old, traumatized older brother who literally did everything in his power to protect him from then on?
@@leticiakormann7206 yeah I know. Erik is a kind hearted person. And how much he loves lyle isn't a secret to anybody. But I felt that he holds some grudges in his heart judging from his facial expressions when lyle apologized. It's just my opinion, may or may not be a fact.
@@sana_the_bookaholic Not sure how you interpreted that.
This case is such a tragedy, the boys were victims of their parents and than victims of the justice. Very sad
I feel terrible for these guys I hope they get out honestly!
@@feliciaalbanese3338 they spent many years in gail. I also think the courts do not understand Trauma
@@jilross4892 i agree. 30 years is way too long. I hope they can get free soon
@@jilross4892 i know 😕 they got arrested in 1990. It saddens me
i think that they have been in jail too long they have payed the price now let them outtttttt
Still can’t believe these boys were sentenced to life without parole. They were victims
They killed their parents
@@FGPlus yean but it was self defense
@@paolapanas7091 it was not self defense was them killing their parents at the time of abuse they waited and preyed on their parents and murdered them
@@alltingzbonnie2760 they had enough! They killed their abusers, at the time this was happening they were kids!! the fuck are you talking about??
@@alltingzbonnie2760 they wanted to run away they needed help im a victim and i can see it in they’re eyes and body language they where being truthful
signs of an emotionally abusive mother:
• constantly criticizing the child
• blaming the child for adult problems
• rejecting the child repeatedly
• dismissing the child's feelings
• deliberately causing the child emotional pain
• ridiculing the child or mocking them
• humiliating or publicly shaming the child
• calling the child names
• getting angry at the child often
• yelling or swearing at the child
• threatening to harm the child or their friends / siblings / pets
• gaslighting / manipulating the child
• withholding love, support, and guidance
• neglecting to care for the child
• allowing the child to witness domestic violence and abuse
Damn you seem invested
He looks so proud when he said "yeah...he's my brother"
He loves Erik so deeply! Erik is his everything. And the way he always tried to protect his little brother is just priceless.
I just heard of this case. Anyone who could watch this and believe that they were lying doesn't have a beating heart.
@Audrey Kelly I see you replying to a lot of comments, and you seem really uneducated on a lot of things in this case. 1. Psychologists came forward after spending many hours with the brothers and testified that they abuse did in fact happen, family members also testified to this. 2. The brothers grew up in such a toxic environment that they never knew anything outside of it. This is a pattern among abused children. 3. You are very heartless and cold for not believing these men. There testimonies are graphic, they were extremely emotional, and as I said before MANY people came forward and said abuse did happen. If this doesn’t prove anything to you for some reason, there are many other reasons of why your opinion is dog sh*t.
@Audrey Kelly shut up mann
I agree. I was a kid when this trial occurred.
It’s unbelievable that in the 90’s the media made a “joke” of these men.
SNL “comedy skits” and tabloid coverage of them killing for money was so wrong.
I don’t know how they were convicted of first degree murder.
Everyone needs to be aware Erik and Lyle are in prison bc it’s a horrible injustice.
Im surprised that they were allowed to sit in the room and hear each others testimony...i wonder if that would happen now?
@@brendamiller6334 they were being tried together so it doesn’t matter. They have their own lawyers and their own juries but they are all sitting together in the courtroom so hearing each other’s testimony is really not an issue .
Their mother cared more about birds than she ever cared about them. Heart wrenching.
I have two grown sons. My greatest achievements by far. If someone, anyone, had even looked at them inappropriately.....I’d have bitten the gullet out of them. I just don’t understand how Kitty did NOTHING. How do you look at your boys KNOWING they’re being abused and do nothing? As far as I’m concerned, Kitty and José can rot in hell.
Pommie bears kitty did nothing because she sexually abused them as well
It’s a BPD like symptom being obsessed and “sweet” to an animal but horrible to you.
If you find their middle school teachers testimony on YT , the mother was usually drunk & smelled of booze. The father was always highly aggressive & they both failed to get the additional help the school advised the younger brother needed.
@@pommiebears she sexually abused them as well, I mean Lyle. So she was just as sick even worse for betraying them like that. What a rotten person
My heart hurts for these sweet boys, this is more than unfair
I know me too! My heart hurts . They were abused so badly and being trapped in the abuse for years and years!! I hate the Jose dad and mom.
I haven’t cried this much while watching something in YEARS. GET THESE MEN THE JUSTICE THEY DESERVED YEARS AGO
THIS
and the fact that it was true and actually happened aswell broke my heart.
Is so sad i feel my heart pull everytime 💔💔
I feel you I am crying right now and feeling so sorry for these boys 😭
Yes they killed their parents, but they hadn't a live either
I’m not even an emotional person but I was pretty much crying the whole time watching this
They broadcasted these pictures to the entire nation???? And people didn't believe them and ridiculed them?? I'm honestly disgusted
Exactly..
Jealousy. People love money and since they had wealth they gave them no chance. “Oh, they’re rich they were just being babies”
@@SethMacLeod95 agreed, I reckon the integrator was so rude to Erik in the other video as well as she was jealous. They’re absolutely beautiful and stinking rich and people probably didn’t like that. That’s why no one showed them any mercy
SamE!!!
In the trial hald of the jury wanted them out of jail and the other half wanted them in jail but for 2nd degree murder. So it ended up a mis trial. The second trial was done without tv broadcast, because it was just after OJ Simpson walked out without punishment.
The judge was the same as the first trial but only the youngest brother went on to testify, because the other one, the one testifying hete on the stand, couldn't because he couldn't handle it mentally. So the jury never heard him speak. They also weren't allowed to bring in the evidence of sexual abuse.
So long story short: they got sentenced to life without parole.
Wich I feel was wrong. They should have been out of jail by now. They were victims and there was enough evidence. If they were women they wouldn't be in jail right now.
It was told to them that if they were battered women they could get out.
I can't even begin to understand how these boys felt growing up, what a waste of a childhood
They had bad beginning life and bad finishing
Fr😭
@@HayleysWorld 9l
When Lyle is saying what his mom would say to him and he physically chokes back his tears, that was one of the more controlled and sad things I’ve ever seen.
Broke my heart
It’s sad, once he finished his testimony he looked away with so much shame. Murder is not justifiable but neither what the parents did to them. They drove them to insanity and fear. This is a self defense case. They were always threatening them to kill them also. 💔 truly breaks my heart.
Yes, it is justifiable, considering everything they went through!
@@melisentiapheiffer3034 absolutely! If I'm being very honest, I don't believe in the last week saga or the imperfect self defense. I believe that the murders were premeditated. But nevertheless, I support these two because I 100% believe the abuse. Jose and Kitty had it coming. If a dad m0lests his kids and the mother is so much hateful, physically and emotionally abusive then they deserve nothing but a painful end.
@@sana_the_bookaholic exactly
It's honestly so sad what happened to them. They're 50+ now. So many years of their lives wasted.
Ikr 😔
IKR, Erik and Lyle are now spending their 50s in prison, instead of being with their wives and children, peacefully at home. If they die in prison, I swear imma cry rivers.
@@Ext_R2 their life were so unfair
@@hehe75289 agreed
@@Ext_R2 they died?
You can easily tell he is telling the truth.
How and why please explain
@@dblessed7860 the tears, the way he answers questions so easily and consistently, him not having to think about what to say next for a while, etc.
@@Bloodyred2010 i do think he is speaking 99 percent but i dont overstand why the mum
@@dblessed7860 the mom was just as evil
@Lucy Summer he pauses a lot because it‘s hard for him to tell and talk about his trauma. He also was taught to control his emotions his whole life and he was trying to do that here that’s why he paused. He‘s also not „laughing with his eyes“ you can clearly see he‘s crying and he‘s in pain he doesn’t look happy at all. Also if he was lying then why would he tell that he basically r@ped erik? it makes him look really bad so if he was lying he would try to make himself look better.
When he apologized to Erik and Erik was also crying just broke my heart .
Shame on all of the coaches, spectators, and parents who watched the abusive behavior of this monster and did nothing.
How do people expect children to speak up when they are terrified of their father, even the coaches feared him
Yeah sure coz I bet you’d do something. You say that but I’d bet you’d do the same
I don’t know about what other people think but I believe Erik and Lyle and one day I hope they get released from jail
They got life sentence in jail
I feel sorry for the wasted time they spent in jail. All they need is presidential pardon. They deserved to be free
They president can’t pardon them it’s only the governor because this is a state case not a federal case.
@@kaylinwhite6584 I really want to become the governor for them, but sadly I can't :((
Kaylin White look, ignorant, we all know they confessed, why?, to save their life I had an abusive so called father. I was always so scared, never had friends , watched him abuse my mother. Many thoughts went through my head, but I was to frightened of him to do anything. The abuse has totally affected my adult life. You ain't never been in their situation, so JUST SHUT UP.
If I was the president I would pardon them as soon as possible
Presidential pardons generally do not apply to crimes of murder. But, there has to be some kind of process to get them out. My heart absolutely aches for them.
It’s up to Governor Newsom. The president deals with federal cases not the state. 😓 This is so painful!
@@samie7025 maybe their family members could start a petition to send to Newsom? They should have been out years ago.
You would definitely be a better president than who we currently have and I don’t even know you. 😉🤪
@@noonespecial619 the president now has a lot of compassion, if he could pardon them I'm sure he would.
1:18:50 I'm not even lying, I cried at this moment. How could you do something like that to your child?! And as someone who was sexually abused by a family member I can feel the pain they were going through.
exactly! i was too and it’s so upsetting. my heart goes out to you :(
These men have been failed & abused their entire lives. The fact that they were covicted, given life sentenses, & STILL in prison after everything their parents put them through is ABHORRENT injustice! Unbelievably heart breaking!
I hope the Menendez brothers can get their appeal in 2021. They were tortured on a regular basis and need help.
I agree with mountain these brothers have suffered enough
They have suffered enough
They deserved to be free , they telling the truth you can see it thru their eyes
In December 28, 2020, Erik revealed he's gonna be filing a new appeal this year for him and Lyle. Fingers crossed.
@@Ext_R2 well they are having another trial
I can't imagine what goes through the mind of a parent.. to sexually expose their own children with naked photographs. that is something that is so disgustingly disturbing.
what’s ur snap you’re gorgeoussss
@@jacobwolters8988 dude read the room before shooting your shot
@@jacobwolters8988 dude read the room
@@jacobwolters8988 not the time buddy
@@jacobwolters8988 what the
I can't believe ANYONE, ANYONE would look at the raw, soul crushing emotion that these two exhibited in trial and think they were acting. In addition, each instance they finish with questioning and Lyle is emotional, he continues to emote and needs a moment to collect himself, he just doesn't "turn it off". It's so hard to watch. Makes me want to just cry.
I truly hate his parents I hope they suffer in under the jail I hope them Prisoners beat them in hot boil Fire water where it ain’t nice in pits of hell
I want Justice for Lyle and Eric they are Innocent Brothers that needs an chance I hate too see an Evil Parents hurt and sexually abused their own children 👦 👦
Lyle and Eric I hope the Parents are got something worst in Hell of pitts of fire because then Prisoners angels can come and beat the living taste out of the parents and hurt them
Before they even begin to question him ..you can see it in his eyes..the pain..the trauma.💔
telling a child i wish you were never born.... that’s just wild. this is a grown man and you can see how words like that still affect him even after 18 years....
He always craved for his mother's love but she only gave him bitterness and tears. I really can't understand how can a mother be so cruel 😭
My mother told me that she wished she would have aborted me. Those words stay with you forever. I can understand his pain.
Every child needs a mother’s love. Some people should just not be parents if you can’t give your own children that
@@sydneyc3259 absolutely
@@sana_the_bookaholic I’m so sorry that happened to you also. It’s really hard to understand why they would say such a thing. God bless you as well. Thanks for response.
They had no one, just each other.Who do you go to ..if you don't have a parents love
True
They were victims of severe abuse. Running wasn't an option to them.
I agree ..they didn't have any one that they could turn to especially living in beverly hills.. one of the worst places to be should anyone attempt to reach out for help.
True...
They lied about their parents. They murdered them for their money and after murdering them so viciously went on a spending spree with their money. If they were being sexually abused, how come they never mentioned the abuse to anyone, not even the relative near to them. Fucking liars...they should have got the death penalty. They should not be released!!!
the way he smiled when talking about his grandparents makes me cry
minute please??
this case needs to be reopened, these two need justices! who’s with me??
Me.
Definitely.. 30 years already
Yes I'm with you
I am here to support you on getting justice for these men
@@vonDrouver3000 but can be done? Is there a possibility of reopening the case ?
I have never wanted to reach through a screen and wrap my arms around someone more. These young men deserved understanding and comfort. I am heartbroken for them given what they went through and how this impacted their decisions later in life.
You can always send them a letter if prison regulations will allow.
Me too.
Happiness to a child is a precious gift; and the fact that some people will take that away from them..... i don't have the words.
Dad's philosophies!!!!
same :( this is so heartbreaking
@@krystynak.9416 How can I do that , like wil the American court really take my letter cause I am from india
That person coughing all the time is SO ANNOYING!!!
Yessss,,, I WISH there was a way to ban the throat clearing and coughs so annoying! It deters the concentration
My brain: CAH RONA VIRUS
definitely a smoker...people smoked like a chimney then
@@kimmyfreak200 😆
They’re in there for long time, you’re gonna have a choker in any room every once in a while 😭😂🤣
He is clearly not making it up, clearly not lying wtf my god this is heart and gut wrenching. Their parents are where they deserve to be.
“We killed them cause we were afraid” as he’s crying.
These men need another chance at life. What happened to them is just awful. I feel they’ve paid their debt for murder and dont feel these are men that would be a threat to society. They killed because they were scared of the abuse and rape that was happening. Just awful!
My heart aches when I see Lyle cry 😓
Have you heard his 991 call? He was crying and lying in the same time that someone killed his parents, so its not a big deal for him.
@@venusvulgivaga312 Venus, watch the goddamn trial so tired of your comments. Acting like you know about the case
@@gx9954 hahahaha, this groupies find all my comments. I will give you solution, you can not read them or even block me, can you imagine?
@@venusvulgivaga312 groupies? Yeah that’s all I need to know about you. You’re ignorant.
@@gx9954 thank you :) if you would consider me equal to you, that would be real offense.
Give menendez supporter his channel back 😡
Literally
ye wtf is that all about
I don't know anything about the supporter. Was/is there a supporter who lost their channel? WTF is that about?
I thought maybe he got copyrighted but I swear he’d always link where he’d get these from in the description so idk
@@Idgjy menendezsupporter uploaded a lot of testimonies from the trial so people had easy access to watch it. I think they copyrighted them tho cuz they had to delete all their videos. Sucks cuz a lot of people found out abt this case from their channel :/
I am about the age of Erik and I remember watching the trial. I sympathized with these brothers and believed them and my own controlling abusive mother got angry at me for believing them. This time in history children were not believed and parents were considered always right. These brothers need to be freed immediately.
They still are
I vaguely remember this because I think I was 10 when when this happened. I remember the show “a current affair” and they made them look so evil. I don’t remember EVER hearing anything other than them killing their parents for money and spending it till an arrest.
@@user-xu5gy8ci8ythat’s the “media” for you. If only people realized it back then. They did indeed make them look horrific. I was in high school and I remember how they villainized them! They should be ashamed, but of course they aren’t. They just got worse, if anything!
He is so traumatised. Its heartbreaking.
Abused by their parents, then abused again by the system. This is an absolute tragedy and a waste of these mens lives. Cant fathom how they were prosecuted for the murder in this circumstance. I feel absolute outrage and horror for the them....poor children going through this. Unspeakable
Cause they confessed to it?? Also the things they did after the murders made them look guilty like the shopping spree and convincing all of Beverly Hills that it was a mob hit.
They are guilty and they are never getting out. Stop with the fake bleeding hearts
And he raped his Brother ! And he tell to Court That he wanted his Dad to stop ?!!!
Their whole lives have been nothing but fear, pressure and abuse
1:18:48 I want to hug him so bad 😥
1:22:54 broke my heart 💔
Set them free they've been through enough.
They are telling are telling the truth, they are both so heartbroken. Yet there are still in jail , they deserve to be set free.
@@brianna3043 exactly. What they did was self defense for the years of trauma and rape and sexual abuse they had to put up with. They did nothing wrong.
I feel so bad no one deserves to go through this
Hahahahaha
@@xana5649 wtf is funny ? So rape is funny ?
THERE WE'RE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THEM NAKED. What father in the right mind would do that to their children? I swear this whole trial and jury just doesn't make sense
And how did a jury find them guilty! Soooo much evidence and witnesses
I swear back then it was a worse justice system. People got away that shouldn’t and those who shouldn’t did… 😢
@@Brookexoxoxoit hasn’t really changed. You see all the time where people are convicted, later to be found innocent.
Whoever put them in jail needs to be in jail
I cried whenever he cried. My thoughts are with these brothers.
same :(
Lyle was too afraid to ever stand up to his father except when it came to protecting Erik. What is wrong with the world that they are in prison right now?
He loved Erik more than he feared José, which is beautiful seeing as their father tried to beat this love out of Lyle
@Carl's Brother shut up
He’s not wrong
@Carl's Brother you for sure get off of talking about the shotgunning of their parents. Yeah their parents were two POS who caused them to do it
@Carl's Brother yeah angry at people like you who only care about pedophiles and child abusers, tells me a lot about you Carl.
I just don’t understand how in the previous decades, this testimony had no affect on anyone in the media, or the courtroom… What was wrong with society.
People weren’t aware of abuse as they are now, you can say people were naive.
can't even imagine what they've been through. they're so strong.
These men should not be in jail! They had a right to defend themselves!
They have an unreasonable belief that their lives were in danger. It wasn’t legitimate self defense. So they didn’t have the right.
@@kaylinwhite6584 it was imperfect self defense
@Kaylin White they did an honorable thing killing those pedos
Gloria X you have no moral compass trying to think that this behavior is justified. It’s not right to kill people even if they hurt you. The brothers made a big mistake murdering their parents.
But not kill your mum and expect your life to run straight it wont happen whT they endured is so wrong on every level but u dont kill where u from and disrespect where u from and neber forget where u from wheter it be the struggle of poverty on your way up the womb who nourished u or the area u grew up in u see the universe sets the punishment and the rewards
I love how he shined when speaking of being at his grandparents home, pieces of happiness ♥️ his whole demeanor changed ♥️
Yeah, you can see how his emotions are on a roller-coaster through out this. Don't think there's any chance he could be faking it, this consistently, throughout the testimony.
He had a great time at his grandparents- it’s terrible the way his parents treated them. Breaks my heart 😢
Oh my....did these kids ever just get to relax. Their father was one sick individual !
Time stamp plz
I wonder how the father became so sick if his parents were normal and loving.
If you can't trust your parents at such a young age, you won't be able to trust anyone later on. Sounds like they endured a lot of psychological distress and damage.
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when lyle starts crying that's just hurt me😭
Hahahahaha
@Xana get the fuck out????
30:22 "He just grabbed them out of my hand and he just grabbed me by the neck and he just punched me in the stomach." Punching your kid son in the stomach for eating sweets?
Money can't buy love, sorry.
Their cousin also witnessed their father dragging them to the room and whipping them with a belt only for wanting to watch tv
@@gx9954 with a belt where? i haven’t got that far yet
@@tns.xcoske their cousin Alan Anderson testified about this. He said that the vile dad would hit them with a belt and he could clearly hear the sound of the belf hitting them and he had seen bruises on their body. What's truly despicable is that kitty menendez, the cruel, selfish, mentally unstable b!tch used to turn the TV volume up so that the sound of the belt could be suppressed!! And Alan or anyone else in the family wasn't allowed to go and help the boys. Nobody was allowed to go near the room when jose menendez was in the room with the boys 💔
@@sana_the_bookaholic that breaks my heart they deserve justice
@@tns.xcoske praying for them sincerely. God will definitely be merciful to them ❤ I believe this new revolution on social media platforms is the voice of the truth which remained suppressed since many years.
the amount of difficulty both of these brothers have trying to remember a single positive memory of their parents speaks for itself
It also speaks volumes that the good memories he could think of were ones involving his parents being kind to or around animals. Broke my heart when he talked about the memory of his mom taking care of a hurt bird. This man has a good heart ❤️
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the details lyle gives here regarding how the dad would talk about sexual acts between men, battle ect but would make then read passages ect....there is no way they are lying about that
he is remembering this from memory. way too many details.
It’s disgusting how a PARENT does this the there CHILDREN .
Hahahahaha
They could have just left
@@xana5649 why are u laughing this isn’t funny
@@maddieroberts2587 Hahahahaha 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@xana5649 ur disgusting
My heart goes out to these young men every time I watch bits of their trial. yes, it was wrong to murder their parents, no, it wasn't about the inheritance, the truth was, it was about stopping the sexual abuse, that had never been addressed. Their father committed it, their mother hushed it and the boys endured it. Our justice system doesn't address or take into consideration the mental torture that sexual abuse inflicts on victims, and in this case, it was inflicted on them BY the people who were supposed to love them the most, protect them...the most. Defend them...the most. Parental betrayal is the worst kind of betrayal. I hope when reviewing cases like this, our courts have the courage to consider compassion/justice in their rulings. Society failed the Menendez brothers. Yes, they should be imprisoned, but not for life. Their freedom was stolen in childhood. They've been PRISONERS their entire lives.
Manipulators love people like you. Sorry ma’am but you’re too old to be that gullible.
@@Tsumami__ Lol
I dont think they should have been imprisoned they should have received a trauma therapy
I agree
@@Tsumami__ shut up, you know nothing about this case
It repulses me that Saturday night live did skits about this making fun of them. 😟
I know, right?! That was terrible. 😤 I think most people back then had less compassion for men or boys that experienced serial abuse.
SNL. Most of Hollywood media is all wicked and has an evil agenda. Satanic corporations. Research.
Nothing really surprises me about m3n anymore. They make r4pe joke 24/7 with no consequences
That video was probably the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
Imagine been tortured getting out of that situation and then having the authority arrest and put you in jail. This treatment would turn me.
1:22:06 his reaction to her question was so quick, he knew that question was coming and he was dreading having to tell the world what he did to erik. if he had been lying he wouldnt have had that knee jerk reaction
These men are so soft spoken and believable, I believe they were molested and I believe the Dad Jose was very demanding. I wish they had just ran away from their parents 😪
He called 911 and cry that someone just murdered his parents. Do you believe that someone murder his parents still? Because thats what this soft spoken gentalman said and you believe in his words :)
@@venusvulgivaga312 you’re so stupid god
@@venusvulgivaga312 him acting in the 911 call doesn’t take away all the abuse and trauma they endured
@@gx9954 for now you show how smart you are with your comments :)
@@venusvulgivaga312 court tv posted the whole trial on their website. Educate yourself. You’re too old to be acting this way
As far as I'm concerned these boys took out the trash. They should get medals not jail time.
They made a huge mistake killing their parents. They never wanted them dead they had an unreasonable belief that their lives were in danger. Erik was so depressed and suicidal that he confessed to his psychiatrist about the killings. They know what they did was wrong.
@@kaylinwhite6584 must be nice to say coming from someone w a perfect family who doesn’t understand abuse - certainly not extremes of abuse! I stand by my support of these men - they took out the trash!
@@crackerjax4330 exactly 💯
This is heartbreaking beyond belief.. people who haven’t experienced abuse may not understand… these men need to me freed..
"was it good times for you or bad times?" the way he just uttered the word "some" silently as if remembering when was exactly the last it was bad and good and how often this bad or good times happen, really pierced my heart.
email california’s governor respectfully and request a retrial. these guys deserve so much better and clearly have done enough time. this is sick.
I just did that, i really hope he reconsiders
How, what’s the email?!
Great idea
I m portuguese, maybe its a plus since this is getting worldwide. Can someone explain me how to do that ? How to email the Califórnias governor?
Can you tell me what did u write
I've never been comfortable with these young men being incarcerated for life. It has always bothered me that his father was so controlling and tried to fix his own failures by bullying his kids into becomming stars in every field. That seriously damages children. A parent, at my school sports day, was banned from future attendance because he screamed at his daughter, whenever she performed, reducing her to tears. We would all try to make her feel better.
My mother was strict too, but I didn’t grow up to MURDER her in cold blood and then go on a shopping spree. People need to stop making excuses for disgusting violent criminals.
I agree
@@Tsumami__ did your parents sexually, physically and emotionally abusing towards you? Where your parents powerful Hollywood executives that could get away with anything? Please don’t ever compare what you went through to their case
@Christine Sanou Ever think about writing Novels....🤔🤔🤔
@Christine Sanou 🤣🤣🤣👍
Why the hell were these poor boys convicted to lifelong prison? All the evidence shows they were tortured their entire lives.
It seems like they escaped one prison to get into another :(
Yes 💯💯💔
The whole system, the parents, life failed them. Truly makes me lose hope in the world
Okay but when he was talking about how Erik didn’t matter and was unimportant to his dad it broke my heart man his dad didn’t even care he existed
That literally made me cry...this is so sad
This is gut wrenching. I can't believe a jury could find them guilty. Is anyone fighting for them to be free? It's been 35 years? You can feel it in your gut that they aren't lying.
the juries deadlocked 2x then the scummy judge at the third trial did not allow all the abuse evidence. then when the jurors found out afterward they felt they had been duped and never would have went for life without parole.
he is literally crying as he speaks of his parents death that literally shows he loved his parents and didn't want to hurt them
I think the breaking point for them was the fact that their father had no intention of letting Erik go, they were willing to move on and forget every single disgusting things done to them, they both said it they had no intention or desire on letting anybody knows because they were aware of the humiliation that comes with it.
But when they found out, Erik found out that his father wasn't letting him stay in the dorms during college, that became the breaking point, they saw no ending on this madness, so decided to end it in the way they surely knew it would end, killing them.
Yeah they were prisoners in their home even as adults they were not allowed to leave? How long did he expect them to stay forever? Probably hoped they would have Stockholm syndrome some abused kids do. Too bad they could not just run away but they probably feared Dad would find them he's rich he'll hire a PI or someone to track them down.
@@annalisavajda252 I also thought of the dreaded "why didn't they just leave" but their dad was INSANELY posessive of them and he was A RICH GUY with connections EVERYWHERE,so it wouldn't be hard for him to find his sons.and people would have likely believed him instead of the boys, and also take the emotional abuse into consideration.
Erik did try to run away when he was 12 but his dad found him:(((((
Anyway, watch closing arguments by Leslie Abramson,she breaks down the dysfunction so brilliantly.
Yes and they assumed they would be arrested for it! They waited for the cops and when they didn’t show up immediately they covered it up!
They feared for their lives they thought their parents would kill them because the parents would rather go down for murder than for child molestation.
If this trial was in our current society, there is no way they would leave been sent to jail for so long. It is so sad 😢
They still would be in jail but not for life. Victims can still commit crimes and get the consequences.
@@kaylinwhite6584 we’re not trying to say they won’t be free but I do think they would get voluntary manslaughter. We’re not trying to say they’re innocent but I don’t think they deserve life
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The pain in Lyle’s voice 😭 and how his face and voice changes when he speaks about their grandparents 😔
I’m glad we’re all on the same page. They should be free like Gypsy rose
Yeah and look who she manipulated-of course he’s still in.
I am so angry these men are in prison for life, they needed therapy and help not punishment for life.
They killed them so? They literally had tens of other options
Yea this is a ridiculous statement. They killed 2 people. Get over it. They ain’t getting out.
@@IamGaby shut up if you were abused your whole childhood you would of done the same have some humanity it’s just embarrassing that you think this way the justice system failed them
@@youlookdustylol2973 don’t tell me to shut up asshole. I was abused my whole childhood you don’t see me killing anyone. I just went on to have a successful life. That’s how you beat the abusers. Get therapy
Lyle is reliving what he is saying. And has a sense of guilt because all he ever wanted was for his pearents to love him. He also has guilt and embarrassed for causing harm to his brother. The truth is that he did that to him because his dad did it to him so he thought that that was normal but it's not and I am glad that he confessed it so he can be free from that. Just by acknowledging it he has proved that he is more then his father ever was. A true man stands in his truth no matter how awful it is.
I don't think he killed his pearents for anything other then protecting his brother which was the person he loved the most in that household.
Thank you for this 🤞🏾❤️
I still can't imagine how parents would be able to do this to their children. It breaks my heart. You have only two people in you life that you should trust blindly... I can't. Everyone failed them and they did what any abused scared people would have eventually done just to escape this nightmare.
“and im sorry”💔💔💔💔 stop Lyle ima cry
This had to be embarrassing for them to say these things in court. I remember when Aileen Wuornos was on trial and it came out her brother had sex with her. There were witnesses..but she denied it. I could tell there was such a deep seated shame for her she couldn’t admit it even to help herself in her own trial. This type of humiliation and shame is so deep. I feel so bad for them. How could the jurors not have considered this? Just these nude photos mixed in with party photos is very compelling evidence that they were telling the truth.
There really is a shame/embarrassing thing to say and admit.
That is so bad, this type of victim shaming in our society when really all the shame should go to disgusting Abusers like their parents were. :(
Jurors did. Which is why this trial resulted in two deadlocked juries. The second trial was "adjusted" in a way to ensure a conviction.
That was rape not sex
I just can't believe that someone could sit and watch this in court or on television, see all the evidence, listen to the boys crying, and think these boys were lying about what they went through. To speak up about something that has happened to you and to be mocked, ridiculed, and not believed doesn't feel good. These boys are victims, they have served their time and they should be set free.
I watched it today and I cried my eyes out. My heart is literally breaking for them and I can’t even imagine the pain and humiliation 😢😢
Yes it's time to set them free they did the time already that's enough.
yes, let them go
Exactly
In light of new witness and new victims of their fathers coming forward hopefully they get a new trial. So terrifying to think of all they went through.
If this trial happened today the verdict would be totally different. 10 years max plus extensive therapy for ptsd and all the abuse they went through
This is pretty long. Lol sorry, it's just my thoughts..
My sister attempted to kill my mom when I was 7. Because my mom messed her up while she was painting her nails. My mother has one hand due to cerebral palsy and my sister beat her up, dragged her down the stairs (14 of them), knocked her out and then went and got a butcher knife. I was home with pink eye and I remember beating my sister in the head with the house phone and choking her to get her to stop trying to attack my mom. My mom got up and ran and left me in the house with her. She didn't attack me. We sat down on the couch like nothing happened until the cops came and tackled her, she was 15/16 at the time and got released from juvi at 18. A backstory to this is that my mother would beat us bloody for nothing. With a belt, brushes, shoes, spoons, rulers. I had to walk up and down the stairs, stand against the wall, do wall sits. All under the age of 7 along with knowing my multiplication and cursive writing before I was 5.
Guess what my sister was released because she didn't go through with the murder.
Ive heard the only reason these brothers were charged was because they were rich and "had it all" and so they just killed their parents to kill them. But what people have to understand, is when you're basically held captive in your own house what are you to do as a child, a teen --a kid barely tall enough to ride rollercoasters or have any money for their own place? I've must have ran away to a fire station lips and nose bleeding at least 3 times and each time they sent me back home, to her and by that time my sister was locked up, gone I had no one to defend me. I didn't attack my mom but I did start defending myself at 15. The last time she hit me I was 16.
The system fails children all the time. It sucks and it shouldn't happen. Clearly you can see their story is real, the pain in their eyes and voice when they recount their past. Yes it was brutal and terrible what they did, but was it justified?
In my opinion,
Yes.
Sorry for your childhood abuse by your mother. The way to Healing and out of this world, of Good vs Evil, is through God, Jesus, Who was also abused, by the humans, He made with His Father!
Then He rose from the dead, to be able to form a New Kingdom, wherein dwells, Only True Love and Peace!!!
We are All, guilty of some kind of bad behavior, some of us way worse than others and All need this Savior, to forgive us and give us forgiveness for others. We don't forgive them, for their sake, but so the stress of it and bitterness does not dwell in us anymore.
Anyone, under this kind of abuse, I know, are justified for fighting back and defending themselves!!! I'm glad you did! Had your mother died, she would have deserved it! It is shocking, how bad she beat you, even being crippled!!! 😢
God Warns, in The Holy Bible, to Not Hurt Children or their punishment, Will be Severe for Eternity! They will be abused, by demons, Forever having to Feel what they made the kids feel......... 😱
I pray you've been Born Again, by asking Jesus into your Heart! He is the TRUE LOVE. 🙌🏻 ✝️
I'm so, so sorry your mother was so unbelievably vicious to you and your sister. I wish I could give you both the biggest hug right now, and I hope that you're both safe and so happy, now. I agree 1000%, the murders were more than justified. It makes me so sad that in the end, it had to be them to do it. You can see they still carry so much guilt. I'm in school for law and am hoping to become an attorney in the end, and I will do ALL I can to try and fix these tears in the system and society, little by little. Take care, sweetheart. 💙
You saved your sisters life
I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you're doing better now. Sending love to you and you're sister.
Horrific what was done to these sweet boys. The father was a monster in every way and the mother was also. Both narcissists and evil.
These boys deserve justice and should be freed. They have paid enough.
God help them.
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So true 😢😢
We have to be very careful when we portray Lyle and Erik as poor victims and José and Kitty as horrible monsters, because in doing so we might just be reflecting our own stupidity.
@@ricardzubimendifelip9039 we only reflect our stupidity when we don't research, ignore all the proofs and witnesses and just jump to conclusions without using any commonsense!
@@sana_the_bookaholic I've watched this case incredibly closely and I've given my full opinion on it on several posts. To me, you just sound like another dumbass who believes every single word coming out of the mouth of Lyle and Erik, when they have a severe criminal record when it comes to telling lies and breaking the law.
I would love to see your reaction if Lyle took his toupee off and started telling the truth. Only then you would realize how little common sense you have.
2:00 the way he said yes made my heart melt 🥺💞