I’m Pro-Life | Change My Mind
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Change My Mind: Abortion.
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“It’s hard to win an argument with a smart person, its impossible to win an argument with a stupid person” -Bill Murray
That's a good line. I think I'm gonna start using that one.
So true !! as you see !!!
You can win but they just won't know you did because they're crazy. Hahaha
Imagine your 11 year old daughter is raped on the way to school. She no longer enjoys doing the things she used to because now shes carrying a monsters fetus. Welp looks like her life is ruined forever because you are all too brainless and blinded by idiotic morals.
True that
Doctor: "You're pregnant."
16-year-old girl: "Oh my gosh. My mom's gonna kill me."
Baby in the womb: "Oh my gosh. My mom's gonna kill me."
Family guy joke
Baby's dad: Who's NEXT?
Sergio Merino No, it doesn't only make sense to morons. And to be honest, you'd be a moron to say that because that implies you don't have the common sense to understand a joke and the appropriate way to respond during social cues. Everyone knows that fetuses don't speak, that's why it's funny. You'd be an idiot to take it seriously.
@@sergiomerino4116 r/wooooosh
@@sergiomerino4116 neither does a newborn, so you're cool with infanticide?
So if a baby isn’t a life until it’s born why do people get charged with 2 counts of murder when they kill a pregnant women?
_ Vera _ But somehow it’s only assault when u kill a baby by punching the mom in the belly
Only difference between the two is that one baby is wanted, I guess. There's no consistent logic to be had by pro-choice when it comes to infringing on their "rights".
Visdomr Hjarta that’s why people life isn’t just religious like some assholes say
Rax what
Because prisons like inmates to have as much prison time as possible.
She keeps saying "Die" when she isn't realizing in order for something to die it must first have "life".
Lmao
This was an hour of:
Person 1: "2+2=4, do you agree?"
Person 2: "Well I don't feel that way. I feel that 2+2=4."
Person 1: "So you do feel that 2+2=4?"
Person 2: "No."
Hahaha same shit with communism:
"Do you think this is communisn"
"No its not real communism"
"State capitalism"
Except that 2+2 doesn't _always_ equal 4. >_> Sometimes it's 5, sometimes it's 3, sometimes it's 2, and so on. Depends on the type of Math you're doing.
Demon Knight Dean
Yup! Want examples?
I don’t want to judge people who think 2+2=367
Maybe they were dropped on their head. We don’t know the circumstances.
Demon Knight Dean It's called a troll
She got all her exercise for the week dancing around the issue.
Catholic Conservative Underated comment
God that's freaking hilarious
Yeah that made me sick
Hahaha
😂🤣
If somebody says “I believe life is sacred...BUT” then that’s a big red flag.
Todd Howard lol
Todd Howard BUT you have a point
The word BUT equals forget what I just said this is how I really feel-Dr. Phil
Life is a biological concept, not a religious or a moral one . It is ridiculous to say life is sacred. Humans have eaten animals, we use animals in experimentation, we wear animals, we send people to war, prisoners are executed, we all agree bin ladden and Hitler deserved to die, we put animals to sleep, even nature performs abortions. We call them miscarriages. The old testament is full of justified killing etc. It is a phrase that sounds nice, but nobody truly believes it. To bring someone to life is to condemn that person to death
et chalaco human life
I also think it's amazing to see men be courageous and whole heartedly outspoken towards what's right and wrong.. no matter who is against them...
She kept saying she was watching her “fetus” die, and the cardiac cells were dying, in order for something to die, there must be life there. So she literally contradicted herself
a fetus is not the same as a baby/child. period.
tjw , I give you the actual definition of fetus: a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth from
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fetus
tjw, another definition: An unborn offspring, from the embryo stage (the end of the eighth week after conception, when the major structures have formed) until birth.
Source: www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=3424
Your 11 year old daughter is walking to school one day, shes abducted and raped by an illegal immigrant. Your 11 daughter loved ballet, playing with her friends, and drawing. Your 11 year old daughter is now pregnant from this horrific atrocity. She no long likes doing the things she did and lays in bed all day, incredibly depressed and distraught. Every day you, your wife, or your husband, and your daughter are reminded of that tragic day every time you look at her growing stomach. Unfortunately for her, you braindead morons are too selfish to save her and your family because you dont want to get rid a coagulation of cells the size of a pencil eraser.
1. Consciousness is what makes humans what they are, and so special. A fetus gains incredibly basic "consciousness" not until 6 months. 90% of all abortions are performed before then. Consciousness along with experience in the world is what life truly is.
2. If i showed you a picture of a human fetus at 8 weeks and a pig fetus at 8 weeks, you wouldnt be able to tell a difference. The fact of the matter is that before 10 weeks (where at least 70%+ abortions are performed), it simply is just an incredibly small coagulation of forming unconscious organs.
3. "Life" is all about experience, your first girlfriend, your first soccer game, your first straight A report card, the goals you work towards, even just being a hermit is still life. A fetus experiences absolutely none of these things and is 100% reliant on the mother and resides inside of a humans stomach.
4. Just because a fetus has a heartbeat doesnt mean its truly "alive". Biologically, obviously. But you could be decapitated and placed on some sort of advanced machine that keeps your heart beating. Are you truly "alive" at that point? This unconscious "parasite" cannot think for its self, has no idea its alive, has no previous life experiences. "you need to give the baby a chance!" an aborted baby never knew it was alive, what if it turned out to be the next ted bundy?
5. 90% of all abortions are performed during the first 8 weeks, which is where a rape victim would receive theirs. You're right, it didnt do anything, because once again its a literal coagulation of forming unconscious organs. This time though its formed through evil. Just like I said to the person above, you wouldn't be typing to me what you are if your mother was raped and suffered through bringing a walking memory of her tragedy to full term. Imagine the despair your mother would have every day looking at your half sibling who was created in one of the most heinous acts possible that makes her think about it every time she looks at them. Imagine the pain and suffering your father would face knowing his wife is bringing someone elses child to term created through forced, aggressive and evil impregnation. Heres what i'd say to you, "welp sorry! looks like your moral compass and willingness to interfere with other adults decisions tore your family apart! isnt that unfortunate?"
6. You can have the opinion that its morally wrong, its most surely not scientifically wrong though. But you aren't allowed to turn your opinions into laws which prevent other adults from doing what they deem necessary. This selfish thinking is a joke that needs to disappear. Imagine you have knowledge your child is going to turn out like The Elephant Man or has some extremely debilitating disorder are you telling me you would put that poor child and yourself through unimaginable hardships your entire life? I pity you, everyone else in this comment section, and every poor child that's born into poverty, with a terrible debilitating disease where they want to kill themselves, or a child born from rape or incest.
Oh and one more question, dont dodge it either like 100% of everyone else. What would make you more sad, a 10 year old being shot in the head or a 5 week old fetus being sucked out a uterus? (The answer is obvious unless youre a fucking psychopath. and the answer proves why you're wrong about abortion LMAO)
@@AtTheDitch several issues here
1) You're starting off by painting an extreme and statistically rare scenario, which suggests you are pro abortion in a general scenario.
2) Most of your points about what defines life can be countered using fully developed humans.
Someone with dementia loses their experiences, is it ok to kill them? A coma patient does isn't conscious, is it ok to kill them? What about people with pacemakers? None of those are consistent.
3) If you watched this and the other Change my mind's on this topic your question has been answered ad nauseum. You're stance isn't unique, though you're elaborate scenario is. If those answers don't satisfy or even phase you, then I don't think you're capable of having a productive discussion on the issue.
Abortion should not be used as birth control.
Schatze Braumeisterin it’s not
It is
How is it being used as birth control? I think it’s quite ironic that conservatives are claiming it’s used as brith control yet brith control rights are starting to be pulled away from Americans, explain??
Agreed
who is taking birth control away? I knew a woman that had over 5 abortions because she could. when you give ppl options they will take them. there is no conscious to it so they will do it because it is open to them. that is is issue. that is the issue with the new laws that there trying/making. know body whents this. and it will get worse because its not just babys. because if they can do 9 months y not 10 or 12 and can they go to jail for killing it... but yes ppl are using it as birth control. @@staryawwnok5311
"I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagen
amen brother God bless them
or sister not sure your gender lol
Nobody is for abortion. People are pro choice
@@etchalaco9971 lmfao pro choice is pro abortion
FFS Goodgame no, it is based on the woman’s right to decide what to do with her body, not on the state of a patriarchal society.
Steven, your patience is unmatched.
Not when it comes to his wife
@@jlma-xc9ollmao was gonna say, unmatched because it’s shit
hes literally debating university students u corny ahh goofball
My college essays when I don’t understand my own thesis.
Hell, at least you have a thesis.
Lol!
Get the word count up! 😂
I’ve played through dark souls with less circle dodging
Excellent reference 10/10 would meme again.
OMG GOOOOOOLD BOİİİ
If only babies could respawn at the nearest bonfire #makethedarksigngreatagain
that cant be possible
Dark Souls is fucking trash. Horrible. Nasty. Less appealing than closing my scrotum on a dvd case. I’d rather stick a beaver inside my anus than play Dark souls again.
Dont get in a coma near this woman
Lmao
I am scared too for anyone in her family who gets into a coma or seriously life-threatening injury.
Doctor: your husband is in a coma.
Her: okay he's not doing anything so his life is not valuable
🤦🏽♂️😔😂 SMH
@@jay2neat660 technically is not just your right but also an act of mercy if you choose to free a friend or a parent from a painful and not curable disease that have totally destroyed any possibility to him to have a real happy life, specially if he ask you to kill him
Damn I was going to coma myself later 😭
She regrets losing her baby and now she's stubbornly trying to convince him because she doesn't want to be in the wrong.
thats exactly is the case with her
Which is weird because it wasn’t even her fault she lost her baby, she has nothing to feel guilty about. Her baby died because of a medical issue with her medications
or maybe she just has a different opinion stop trying to psychoanalyze
legend has it, she never answered a simple, direct question in her life
Your 11 year old daughter is walking to school one day, shes abducted and raped by an illegal immigrant. Your 11 daughter loved ballet, playing with her friends, and drawing. Your 11 year old daughter is now pregnant from this horrific atrocity. She no long likes doing the things she did and lays in bed all day, incredibly depressed and distraught. Every day you, your wife, or your husband, and your daughter are reminded of that tragic day every time you look at her growing stomach. Unfortunately for her, you braindead morons are too selfish to save her and your family because you dont want to get rid a coagulation of cells the size of a pencil eraser.
1. Consciousness is what makes humans what they are, and so special. A fetus gains incredibly basic "consciousness" not until 6 months. 90% of all abortions are performed before then. Consciousness along with experience in the world is what life truly is.
2. If i showed you a picture of a human fetus at 8 weeks and a pig fetus at 8 weeks, you wouldnt be able to tell a difference. The fact of the matter is that before 10 weeks (where at least 70%+ abortions are performed), it simply is just an incredibly small coagulation of forming unconscious organs.
3. "Life" is all about experience, your first girlfriend, your first soccer game, your first straight A report card, the goals you work towards, even just being a hermit is still life. A fetus experiences absolutely none of these things and is 100% reliant on the mother and resides inside of a humans stomach.
4. Just because a fetus has a heartbeat doesnt mean its truly "alive". Biologically, obviously. But you could be decapitated and placed on some sort of advanced machine that keeps your heart beating. Are you truly "alive" at that point? This unconscious "parasite" cannot think for its self, has no idea its alive, has no previous life experiences. "you need to give the baby a chance!" an aborted baby never knew it was alive, what if it turned out to be the next ted bundy?
5. 90% of all abortions are performed during the first 8 weeks, which is where a rape victim would receive theirs. You're right, it didnt do anything, because once again its a literal coagulation of forming unconscious organs. This time though its formed through evil. Just like I said to the person above, you wouldn't be typing to me what you are if your mother was raped and suffered through bringing a walking memory of her tragedy to full term. Imagine the despair your mother would have every day looking at your half sibling who was created in one of the most heinous acts possible that makes her think about it every time she looks at them. Imagine the pain and suffering your father would face knowing his wife is bringing someone elses child to term created through forced, aggressive and evil impregnation. Heres what i'd say to you, "welp sorry! looks like your moral compass and willingness to interfere with other adults decisions tore your family apart! isnt that unfortunate?"
6. You can have the opinion that its morally wrong, its most surely not scientifically wrong though. But you aren't allowed to turn your opinions into laws which prevent other adults from doing what they deem necessary. This selfish thinking is a joke that needs to disappear. Imagine you have knowledge your child is going to turn out like The Elephant Man or has some extremely debilitating disorder are you telling me you would put that poor child and yourself through unimaginable hardships your entire life? I pity you, everyone else in this comment section, and every poor child that's born into poverty, with a terrible debilitating disease where they want to kill themselves, or a child born from rape or incest.
Oh and one more question, dont dodge it either like 100% of everyone else. What would make you more sad, a 10 year old being shot in the head or a 5 week old fetus being sucked out a uterus? (The answer is obvious unless youre a fucking psychopath. and the answer proves why you're wrong about abortion LMAO)
@@AtTheDitch if "consciousness along with experience in the world is what life truly is", then is it right or wrong to pull the plug on someone who loses consciousness for any length of time? You are using an extreme hypothetical example to justify abortion for any reason. 100% of those who I have talked to who are pro-choice do not allow for any contingencies to save the unborn, such as denying convenience killings. All Democratic front-runners for president also voted to kill the baby right after birth even if it survives an abortion, so in the end, the pro-choice movement doesn't care.
@@AtTheDitch also about your question at the end, a follow-up for that could go like: What would make you more sad, a family member dying or a complete stranger? Why would you berate someone for choosing one life over another when they are both two separate lives?
@@InSterquiliniisInvenitur So what its a statistically rare and extreme scenario? Does that mean it doesnt exist? The whole point of these scenarios is to make you think about the stupidity of your argument, especially if you are against abortion in rape cases. Someone with dementia has still lived a full life and impacted many people along the way, most likely having grandchildren at that point. A person in a coma, lets go with a teenager this time, has just received a scholarship to a prestigious university and has a family who they have shared memories and personal experiences with.. No you dont fucking kill them theyre humans who have lived their life and impacted many, even if you were a hermit youve still had some sort of impact on the world are an independent human, residing outside of the womb who has lived life. A fetus has done absolutely none of those things, comparing the two is absurd.
@@InSterquiliniisInvenitur A family member and a stranger have COMPLETELY different meanings to an individual. Do you think it would affect me even close to as much as if I got news my brother had passed away from a car crash as someone a couple blocks down from me who also suffered the same fate? Awful analogy, not even close to my question. A 10 year old child and a 5 week old fetus are complete strangers to you as well. You going to refuse to answer the question again by asking me an irrelevant one? Here ill ask it again in case you forgot, what would make you more sad, a 10 year old being shot in the head or a 5 week old fetus the size of a pencil eraser being sucked out a uterus?
*Steven Crowder* - Pulls out Fetal Chart
*Woman* - Dang, now I have to answer his question.
Good god that was agonizing how he had to pry those answers out of her. She absolutely did not want to admit that what she was saying was her opinion.
"A fetus is a human life when it's viable outside the womb."
"Okay, so you think a fetus isn't a life until it's viable outside the womb?"
"No! That's not my opinion! That's everyone else's opinion!"
"So when do YOU think a fetus is considered a life?"
"I think a fetus is considered a human life when it's viable outside the womb."
😔😔😔smh
This paper isn’t part of the conversation, we’re talking about babies
When one of her friends is pregnant, I bet she says "how's the baby?" instead of "how's the fetus?"
W
HAHA
Depends on the friend, I'd imagine. I'd have totally asked one of my friends, "How's the fetus?" Particularly my best friend, who was "child-free" until about 30 and referred to kids as sprogs and the like, on occasion.
Arguing semantics isn't a good look if you are trying to change someone's mind.
@@Thomas-xk5lj Just pointing out the hypocrisy of pro-abortion folks.
‘I had to watch my baby die horribly’
Also her: ‘I think we should allow mothers to murder their babies horribly’
HAHAHAH
Its not murder😭Americans er sometjing else
@@vituszeuthen3336yes it is
@@vituszeuthen3336 facts lol
@@vituszeuthen3336 not all of us are this stupid tho 😂
I don't think I could do what Steven does: his patience is super human.
He's a damn saint after this
Yea
It has to be... its not always about winning the debate and having a THUG LIFE moment. We want the Pro-choice people to really understand that murdering a fetus is not a choice.
Ikr
I think its interesting she was a teen mother.
Your level of patience is off the charts.
Came here to say this. lol Unbelievably patient.
He's like Richard Dawkins but with politics
so 10 months ??
over 9000
you're
Just kidding! CHILL OMG! xD
Woman: *telling emotional backstory*
Steven : jeez the pigeons
He was about to comment on it but it would sound like he didn't care about her story haha
@@erikaho1857 People have a habit of setting up victim narratives to justify horrible acts.
Hitler : My father used to rape me in the shower when i was 9. I also used to have a lovely jewish girlfriend.
Yes... and your still hitler.
@@captainplaceholder4482 you're... You're not talking about killing millions of jews as if it was a good comparison to abortion, are you?
@@JerryO1995 "It's not a human life yet"
Okay, when is it considered to be alive then, exactly?
>Sperm could become a person
Nope. A sperm cannot become a person unless it fertilizes an egg. That's why the pro-life movement defines fertilization as the moment life is created. Not brain function, not heartbeat, not birth, but fertilization.
>Every cell in your body is alive
That argument is ridiculously disingenuous and you know it. My white blood cell or neuron isn't in the process of literally developing into a human right now but a zygote is.
@@AnirudhGiri when it can be alive on its own, of course. And that process is called "giving birth". It's when a fetus is finally able to live without the mothers support and thus it becomes a human life, getting all human rights in the process, such as the right to live.
Every time she says “but” it means forget everything I just stated because now I am going to tell you what I really believe. … Also, she spoke about her own experience with abortion due to the effects of seizure medication, yet, that could have been prevented. She chose NOT to prevent that pregnancy from happening. People who say they’re pro-choice actually do not want any sort of accountability and responsibility for their own actions. It’s appalling to say the least.
"A person's a person, no matter how small."
- Dr. Seuss
@Mark Phillips typical fucking American
@@sophiemorin7334 He may have been. Most of his books were originally suppose to entertain adults as well as children.
@@sophiemorin7334 I was referring to Mark Phillips.
Not if you're shorter than 5'11
N3FARIOUS wait wut
Crowder doesn't do enough of these Change My Mind segments.
Change My Mind
nope you win
All yours g
Well played
Lul
Cant change fact
How ironic that a big sign saying "Butcher's Son" is hanging up in the backround lol
That actually made me laugh 😆
How ironic is it that during the video a woman and child walked through the cameras line of sight.
BellaDoesGaming Not as ironic as the sign
Think it might have been clever camera skills 😂
And they have some delicious food! I’ve been there in downtown Dallas.
"Its my body my choice", so we shouldn't care about suicidal people. Their body their choice? explain? Of course we gotta protect these people regardless if its their body their choice.
My mom is a LMT (Licensed Massage Therapist). And she has worked on a mom who gave birth to a child with no brain stem. And when this woman saw the baby on ultrasound, she was given the choice of having a medical abortion or giving birth to a child with no brain stem. So she said I'm gonna put this in God's hands. Later she gave birth to a child that managed to drain the spinal fluid where the brain stem was and the brain stem developed. And he grew up into a kid with some small learning disabilities.
What I'm saying is, CONSIDER ALL OPTIONS BEFORE DECIDING TO END THE BABY'S LIFE
My cousin had no brain 3 months before being born then boom, brain at birth. Some disabilities after but with therapy and aid, he's a smart kid going through college now.
@@TheTechNopal that is almost the exact same story as my mom told me. Except this case, the kid is in high school. We shouldn't be giving up lives like this. God is ultimately in control of it
@@spanishinquisition4616 I'm not the religious type yet I'm not gonna bash anyone for doing so, but I will say that there are things that we don't understand out there that work in our favor sometimes. So yeah, sometimes we just gotta let nature take its course.
@@TheTechNopal There you go. And I'm not gonna force my religion on you. Just my beliefs are what keep me going. I just choose to think something else is in control. Gives me peace in a world like this
Wow I'm sure this is a true story and not something you made up.
"Warning...It's very long."
DUDE! We love these vids! Please come out with a "Only Two Genders" part 2.
Tracer Dumas Just put him on everything. Hire him, please. I could watch that knucklehead trip over his own points all day. Dude is straight brainwashed.
Steve p I NEED another "Only two genders" video
I think he should keep on coming out with more of these / / Pro-Life - Change My Mind / / videos.
Its one of the most important issues of our time.
That’s what she said
Need to get more of the fat feminists, those are the best
Jesus Christ, I don’t think she answered a single thing... wtf
MDC Preaches ..... they usually can’t carry a straight conversation, I’m not saying these people are dunce, but if you watch all most of these pro life/choice videos they’re usually mumbo jumbo, belligerent spitting yelling and vomiting at the other side.... it’s so strange
Her logic was: “Well life is valued by your country’s technology, but I don’t believe it. But I believe its real, but it isnt”
Steven: “Did I ever tell you to go on a full circle around the world”
Woman: “Well actually the world is flat”
That was basically what happened
She doesn't THINK abortions are moral, but she FEELS that she needs a right to murder so she tries to justify it to feel better.
@William Dionicio Honestly even Jesus is confused at how that woman avoided questions
Exactly MDC Preaches!!! Crowder Spent an hour with this woman trying to change her mind. It was a waste of- Crowders time, and mine.
Please move on next time.. some people will never see your or anyone else’s point of view. Can’t believe I listened to the end... lost over an hour of my life to this.. can I please get a refund????
I don't understand how it could possibly have been traumatic for her and her husband to watch "the fetus die" if she's not even willing to admit that the child was alive to begin with. If, by her own admission, her child wasn't viable and by her logic viability determines whether it's alive or not, then her child cannot have been considered "alive" and it shouldn't have been any more of a traumatic experience to watch "the fetus" die than it would have been to watch a plant die.
If she's so dead set that it's not a viable life until outside the womb, then how is the baby she had to abort such an ongoing traumatic experience for her?? Because it's a life.
She knows she’s wrong
She’s just breaking down and hoping if she says it doesn’t matter enough
It won’t matter
So she purposely makes the conversation on her side
It’s because you are made solely for the purpose of reproduction and passing on your genes which is encoded in your DNA and all the hormones want you to have the baby and that’s why some people go baby crazy and why new mothers are incredibly protective of their kids even in nature with bears and other animals
Q: Do you think it's ok?
A: I don't want to say one way or another.
Q: Im trying to get a clear answer..
A: I gave you one..
That’s some next-level debate shit right there
Jared Willard oh vw
Steven would be an excellent kindergarten teacher with that patience of his
" hey kids, today were gonna learn why socialism is evil, and abortion is murder"
@@arsenbabasyan1646 teach em the truth young and they wont turn left. If you aint right your wrong. lmao
Arsen Babasyan lol, you don’t have to teach to kids that abortion is murder. Simply explain to them what it is and then they’ll question how that is done or even okay to some people.
facts!
@@Tony-qt4zv
Hypocrite. Isn't enforcing right wing agenda brainwashing and indoctrinating. You hate it when the left does it yet it's all good when the right does it? Freaking jerk.
My roommate’s girlfriend is so pro-choice that she is fine with abortion up to a second before birth.
I cornered her intellectually, she realized she was losing the argument, then she stated that opinion and said she would never change her mind.
I told her that this was one of the most brutal opinion’s I’ve ever heard. She was completely unphased. I’m not sure if that’s actually what she believes or if she just didn’t want to concede, but I was honestly shocked.
Youre such an obvious liar.
Cus she probably killed her kid
She's likely a regressive left winger? In my experience with people in that side of politics, they can't / wont have their minds changed. With normal, rational people, if you present facts and statistics that they can't refute, their minds will change but modern "woke" leftists are different. Their worldview is more of a cult than a group of like minded individuals, they gain a social network and friends via virtue signalling but they absolutely have to agree with the ever changing, increasingly radical outlook of the cult otherwise they will be ostracised. Just look at J.K Rowling, she was woke on every issue but the second she dared to stray from the cult ( by saying gender differences are real ) she became instantly and thoroughly hated and loudly shamed by the cult, they didnt calmly accept that she has her own opinions and / or attempt to change her mind, she was instantaneously boycotted and maligned online. I have worked with people who went from championing gay rights to then claiming gender isn't real and there are no biological differences between men and women to calling paedos "maps" ( minor attracted persons ) its fucking terrifying, these people are undoubtedly the most brainwashed collection of people in human history and the cult they belong to is so strong that when you argue against them convincingly and they have no comeback, more than often, they become highly emotional and rage quit, usually whilst calling you a bigot.
Many people just can't admit they were wrong. They lack character and integrity
He sleeping with a murderer fr... Pray for bro's safety
steve: “are you pro life” lady: “i was very successful in the UN” she keeps changing the subject and she never answered a single question even though steve was being understanding and rational🤦♂️
“If a wise man argues with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs and there is no peace.” Proverbs 29:9
bible has always been predicting the future
it was way ahead of its time
@@SonGoku-777 lmao too true bro. amen.
Amen we are truly in the end times
Dont use religious context for political issues. The United States is not a theocracy.
@@huntergage shut up lol
That sign across the street 'Butcher's Son' is just kind of ironic.
Thought the same
I thought the exact same thing
Or is the grace of Wr-Alda.
Idk why this comment is 4 months ago, but i agree.
Damn woulda never seen it
My mother was 46 when she had me. She never had a period again after having me, so I was literally her last egg. The doctors strongly suggested that she abort me because of the risk for medical conditions such as down syndrome. My parents didn't even entertain the idea. I came out perfectly healthy. I'm smart, I'm successful, and I have a beautiful family of my own now. Thank God I had the parents that I did.
Almost the same thing happened to me.. I've always been grateful for her deciding to keep me for a whole ten months. They eventually had to make caesarian cut.
And you are arrogant
Same with my grandma, she was told to abort my dad because she would end up infertile if she gave birth to him. She refused and did it anyway.
Thanks to her I'm alive today.
"I fight for human rights."
Can't define a human...Okay...
"I am fighting for human rights"
"Unfortunately , life in New York and West Virginia has different value , and there is nothing we can do about it"
You can not be for human rights and accept a bad reality without having the slightest interest in improving that reality
Either she is not a human rights fighter, or she doesnt thing this reality is bad
DarknessProphet Not everything is black and white from a biological perspective. Whether something is a human or not, is really hard to determine. In fact i would say it’s very subjective. Therefore I think that what we have to rely on (at least at this point in time) is what the law says. Another thing thats not really defined biologically, is when we enter adulthood. This is a social and legal construct, but with no biological definition.
So actually we don’t really need a definition for when human life begins but instead we need laws based on what the majority think is morally wrong. And at the moment the law says that you can have abortions up until a specific number of weeks (which i completely agree with).
@@oliverplougmand2275 What is or is not a human is very clearly determined from a biological perspective.
A different animal (like a cow or pig) won't become pregnant from a human nor can it carry a human fetus.
Whether something is human or not is ingrained within the very DNA of a creature.
DarknessProphet The thing is that its only a human fetus which is a human in development. It isn’t a human being yet
What is hard to determine is exactly when that fetus can be considered human enough to have rights like the rest of us.
I can't believe I actually watched the whole hour of this. Anyone else tired of hearing her talk on and on senselessly?
yep!
I’m only ten minutes in and I’m already tired of her
Lets just hope when she watches this back, she will see how she wrapped herself into a pretzel to explain the lunacy of her position. Because she could not point to a spot on the fetal development graph, in the end she needs to OWN that she supports the ending of human life up until birth.
I skipped until the screen turned blue
hey no one told you to watch the whole hour, why don't you do the smart thing, get on the net to get what you need, then get off, and go outside and have a real discussion with someone.
I hate the argument that if you're pro life it must be religious based. Such a silly cop out.
Yeah its fucking dumb. Im an atheist and Im pro life
@@nickz5849 I'm a diehard anti thiest and pro life. I don't think people need "god" to tell them that killing babies is wrong.
You may not be religious but you are ignorant, self absorbed and sexist!
@@caseywright9216 Lmfao please do explain?
It is because from a biological perspective life is morally neutral
I've always thought I was pro choice even though I would never choose these options for my life or my partner and our child to be, but when you broke it down this was fuck I couldn't be okay with this.
Steven has the patience of a serial killer.
dam we figured it out
Lol no he doesn't. Those planned parenthood freaks have NO patience and they are actual serial killers 😂
@Bitchyougottrolled do you mean feminist
@Bitchyougottrolled Your vocabulary seems to be limited to colored hair, bitch, nigga, and feminist.
@Bitchyougottrolled are you really that stupid? These people are clearly against feminists and abortion, and I'm assuming you are as well, due to your choice of words. Did you just read it completely wrong? We don't need people on the right acting stupid, stupid people belong on the left.
Making a baby
Takes two people to make one
But one to decide
IF roles were reversed
Feminists would flip their shit
and THAT's the damn truth.
Because EQUALITY. You misogynist.
Fun haikus brah
Shome Truth agreed , both parents should have a say!!!!
Shome Truth
Why?why would they flip it? Were they cooking it?
Absolutely they would! It's awful how much power woman have in the decision. If a woman has sole decision to have or terminate the baby. Then the man should have a right to support or not support the baby.
*I think all men should support their child(if they don't they sign away all rights to child)...but not by stealing their money. 50/50 custody and 50/50 expenses. No ifs, ands, or buts
Her argument: "You know like, umm...uh..."
There you go, saved you an hour.
eyextraction you obviously didn't watch the debate fully then bud, go back to watching leftists pander to you
The argument he used is a common one Ben Shapiro uses to prove a point that they really don't care about the life of the child at any point and that it is a smoke screen.
I always told myself I'll never go through an abortion and I never entirely understood why I felt that way. I guess a pregnancy can so easily be avoided that it's not worth going through that "medical procedure". On a different note, some people talk a lot and say nothing.
i am adopted, my 2 younger siblings are adopted, i got the chance to meet my biological family, they weren't hanging their head low in shame for putting me up for adoption. they were proud of the young man i became
There are thousands of children in the foster care system, kids that have a chance of being abused and of having a horrible life.
@@janedoe7205 But those kids were wanted at birth otherwise they would've been aborted, so should we force those sort of parents who we think might end up having a child in foster care too abort in the first place?
I'm not giving my OWN baby up for adoption but if I got a girl pregnant and we're both not ready to be parents, I would fully support her in aborting the baby.
@Ellie Fuller Darling please, i'm going to become a proud father of at least 2 children. If those children's are conceived early or at a time of financial difficulty i'm completely in favour of aborting the child. If i'm physically unable to have children, i'm also very open to adopting a child from birth because I believe the relationship you have with a child makes you a parent not the genetics. Don't presume to suggest what I can and can't do. I suggest you have a child if you want one and don't if you don't. I'm also Catholic but would never impose my beliefs upon my child because they also have a choice. Pro Choice!
@@jojo_n_dat7325 Its illogical so u wont give your OWN child up for adoption but u will kill your OWN child.
So if its not murder to her.....how is it someone can get charged with double homicide for killing a pregnant woman and her unborn baby??
B/c the woman didnt choose for the unborn child to die
Larry Abram No one holds the right, to decide whether someone should live or die. Your logic is flawed. Wrecked
twiztedrider you hit the nail right in the head!!
What if the moms health was in danger, or it was a rape baby? Would it not be ok to have an abortion?
Noah Greene Of course. The birth of a child to sacrifice the literal life of a woman is wrong.
She’s like that one gf who knows she’s
Wrong in the argument but keeps going because she just wants the last word. Never gonna win
She must feel a lot of guilt with her abortion to be in denial.
Of course she does she realised she killed her kid
Exactly
I’m 14 years old, a freshman in high school. A classmate of mine who I was having a conversation about the abortion ban in Alabama with, actually said to me that since babies can’t walk or talk, they’re as useful as a squirrel and their lives don’t matter. It’s insane to me how people are unaffected by babies being killed late-term, but have mental breakdowns when the right to murder a baby is taken away.
Ariana Nelson agreed. The person you where having a conversation with won’t do anything important with their life anyways so does that mean they’re not a life as well?
katherineanne yes it is
Crispy Wafflez so true
katherineanne their lives mean just as much as yours :)
Very wise for such a young age, Ariana. Keep seeking the truth.
This woman is crazy, the places in the world she calls harsh have the least rates on abortion. An African woman without water and shelter will most likely keep her baby than a California woman whose only problem is because she feels uncomfortable
kamara ssakka Very true
@@epicbread1310 nope, am from Africa and the facilities are there. Idk what your media tells you but Africa isn't just a shit hole.
Thank u
Funny you bring that up. Planned Parenthood went to Africa and offered abortion and was ran out there for such a disgusting option.
@@epicbread1310 ding,ding ding
Man I would love to see someone on a Change My Mind episode who comes to the table just as prepared, aware, and armed with info as Steven does. That would make for a very engaging conversation. I'd love to be engaged in this type of conversation.
Jason Costabile I agree. I can come up with better arguments than most of these people. And I disagree with them! But check out the live version of Change My Mind. A guy actually beats Crowder on socialism.
martin garcia no he didnt he looked like that nigga from super bad and all he said was autistic
Jason Costabile yeah don’t think that would ever happen because the left’s logic is just so irrational and ridicules that they would just sound like a complete idiot😂
Well, that's the point, if you're going to have an opinion on an issue you should be capable of defending it.
Watch the first debater on the socialism video.
The amount of hypocrisy is insane.
They know the truth but still don't wanna admit it.
She won’t put limits on women’s rights but is more than willing to put limits on children’s rights.
Olivia Ammerman Great comment an so true
Brooo this is sooo freaking true
it’s not a child though
What children...
Honeybun What are y’all. You are literally stealing a lifetime from something that can’t even think for themselves. A child is defined as a person who is under aged and a baby is underaged. Just because it is “not alive” doesn’t mean it had a future ahead of him.
“So how exactly is Abortion not murder..?”
“It’s not-.. it’s it’s not.”
*sound argument.*
It's self-defense. That's how.
@@carultch Because a baby is a threat and deserves to be slaughtered?
@Egan314 Yeah, but who decided to have sex?
@Egan314 Rape is a different story. I'm saying if you deliberatly had sex and got pregnant, abortion should be out of question
If abortion is murder, then are accidental miscarriages involuntary manslaughter?
The last time i was this early I was in my mothers womb because she was pro-life.
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So your an accident..?
Is anyone else thinking because of the circumstance she went through with her pregnancy she refuses to see any “fetus” as life because she does not want to face her guilt?
Totally
😂100%
I’m a baby that was born too early... earlier than planned. I’m still glad that I can have life.
Sam Ludendorff but that has nothing to do with abortion
Mr Maltman thank you, so do u. I hope u have a good day :)
But you weren’t life when you were not life or ded
Something Not What?
Thanks for sharing your story!! :)
He should’ve asked her “when did her daughters life become valuable while she was pregnant with her”?
I think he didn't because that would come off as very disrespectful and offensive particularly to the daughter and he's really about respectful conversation 👍
@@rjaylaf true...
But so is murdering babies
And she would probably have said "immediately when I came to know about the pregnancy". So what? This seems to be a common way that pro-life thinking goes wrong. They think "oh, I was overjoyed when I found out about my own pregnancy, so everybody has to feel like that for every pregnancy, or they're bad people". It's kindof the definition of narrow-mindedness.
Jesper Antonsson I don’t think Steven’s explains it well. There’s a point in a fetus’s development where abortion should completely be illegal. You should not be able to abort a 9 month old fetus out of convenience like come on now, you had 9 months to decide. I’d say before 14 weeks is where it should happen. People have reasons and circumstances and it’s understandable. It’s not understandable in any way to abort a 5 month old , 7 or 9 month old fetus ever
@@tommyglonczi no, there's no point at which it should be illegal. Sometimes women are actually unaware that they are pregnant until arbitrary points in their pregnancies. Sometimes circumstances/knowledge changes late during pregnancy.
Bold move hosting a discussion on abortion in front of the Butcher's Son food truck
😆😆😆
I was going to say this too 😂
Bahahahahaha
Lmaooo
Good One.
She could have saved everyone's time by just admitting she believes it's okay to kill a baby in the womb up until birth. This was the most painful beating around the bush I've ever endured!
If her baby was "dying" in her womb then it was alive🤷🏻♂️... Unless dead things can die????
the baby in the womb is just as „alive“ as bacteria cultures and plants are
What is dead may never die
@@ellakatharina2405 you’re gonna compare that to a human life...
@@rivlife3522 to a potential human life in the uterus...YES!
@@ellakatharina2405 potencial? An 14 weeks baby (98 days) already has a fuckyng brain.
My vocabulary is expanding enormously because i watch these videos 😂
FR 😂
True 👍
Same agreed 100%
Same
Ooga booga
It’s interesting if a woman is murdered while pregnant the perpetrator is often charged with a double homicide......🤔
This is because of the unborn victims of violence act 2004 which was signed into office by a pro lifer.
Here is a pro life organization explaining why you should basically be happy this is the standard.
www.nrlc.org/site/federal/unbornvictims/keypointsuvva/
& Sharon Rocha.
But what if she wanted to get an abortion before she got killed, should the person get prosecuted for the murder for both?
yo man,
"But what if she wanted to get an abortion before she got killed, should the person get prosecuted for the murder for both?"
it's a double homicide, not a double murder.
However it would still be a double homicide because she did not consent to the person killing her for to kill the fetus.
EDIT:I wrote double murder instead of homicide on the last part accidentally, so I changed that.
yo man - my example would have been:
If pregnant women A was driving and proceeded through a stop sign ... and driver B ran the stop sign slamming into driver A causing her to loose the child. Is that manslaughter.
In some states...yes.
But what if Driver A was on her way to getting an abortion? Do you think she would have said, “oh no, that’s OK...I was getting rid of said child anyway”. Ha! What world do you think this is? Driver B would have been slapped with Manslaughter and sued for wrongful death of such being that apparently has no rights at all.
To just have some fun with it ... what if Driver B was the doctor that was going to do the abortion on driver A? Does he still get paid?!? LOL
In any event...it’s life! All rape, medical and financials aside, someone who chooses or Forces the end of life should be accountable.
Saying, "An abortion is a procedure to end a pregnancy" is like saying, "a school shooting is a procedure to end an education".
It disingenuously covers up what is actually happening.
The one lady said that something about a baby being completely dependant on the mother until birth, someone should tell her that ALL babies who are born are also completely dependant on its parents, leave a baby alone with no help and it dies, so technically speaking according to that logic even babies who are born are not viable because they cannot actually take care of themselves on their own. You can’t just kill a dependant baby of any age because it is an inconvenience to you
When people speak of a fetus being non viable, it means that outside of the womb, or without constant medical assistance, the fetus will die. There’s a difference between that kind of dependency, and that of a born child who is dependent simply because their brains/bodies haven’t reached adulthood yet.
@@Toxic0788 it's still a living thing. And when talking about that it doesn't matter. the whole point wasn't that it was inconvenient because it was dependent on being in you. Her argument was about things being inconvenient in general.
But dying and killing is part of nature. When you cut trees or remove herbs from your garden you’re ending a life. But, sometimes it is necessary in order to build a house or to plant veggies to feed yourself. Killing animals to eat is not only done by humans but by many other animals on earth because sometimes it is necessary to survive. Although a fetus is a life it is not conscious and it doesn’t have a mind, it can’t feel pain at the time they perform abortion. A fetus at the time of abortion is literally similar to a tree. And sometimes it is more evil to give birth to a human when you can’t afford to feed it or you are an addict and giving birth to it will give it deformities and it will lead a horrible life of pain, crime and going from foster home to foster home. Abortion is preventing to create a life before its actually human and conscious.
AND before you tell me that I wouldn’t go and murder someone in the street bc they are poor or handicapped, let me say this. Killing someone for no reasons (meaning not to feed yourself and survive ) is wrong because it is conscious and has a mind, it feels pain and fear and you don’t end a life for no reason when it feels. Some animals kill their own children or eat them. It’s part of nature. When you masturbate you kill and billion of sperms who could have become adults and lead lives. Is that wrong too?
@@makemecry6604 so abortions that don't kill the mother are wrong based on what you said. No one says the killing of a mother and fetus is better than killing the fetus. Killing a baby without health problems is literally killing something without needing it for food or to survive. If your point was that women who are probably gonna die can have abortions then ok but if not you're contradicting yourself. Also killing your own species and another are two different things which you also contradicted in your second comment explaining you think it is wrong to kill humans.
Is there some irony in that sign behind them?
Malcolm Chisholm good eye
Yes
Malcolm Chisholm holy fuck! Thats fucked up!
The butcher’s son is booomb
nah, I think it's made of plastic
As a former baby, I can confirm, we don’t like being murdered by our own mothers.
yo broo!!!
How do you know that? Have you been murdered by your mother before? Or have you talked to a baby that has been murdered? 😬
@@Tekko0107 Everyone has the right to live, simple as.
@@wassupbud1232 so no you don’t have an answer lol
@@danieldziekan8332 I gave mine, it can be seen above, in case you can't read
Just wanna say, my baby was born at 22 weeks, and he’s the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen in my life. Stop killing life!! You have no right you monsters.
I am Pro-Life as well. My mother had 7 children prior to me and she nearly terminated my life. She was literally in stirrups on the table and jumped off saying that she couldn't follow thru with it! I thank God and my mother that she didn't follow through with the abortion as I have 3 beautiful children and 2 gorgeous grandchildren!!
Goes against nature to kill off our future generations
wtf is wrong with you that's a perfect example of when abortion is the right decision and why I'm pro choice
@@Sam-ou5xv how can you say that her mother should have had an abortion, or that her situation warranted one. Do you think before you type? Be pro choice if that’s what you believe, but you don’t have to be a dick to someone sharing their story.
@@iamgolden911 I'm not being a dick, your the one not valuing a human life here, the mother was extremely depressed and almost, suicidal, having that kid could have ended her life or at least ruined it forever
@@Sam-ou5xv my mother was not suicidial and/or depressed!!! I never said that. She told me that when she jumped off that table and out of the stirrups it was the best choice she's made!!!! She ALMOST ABORTED ME. She instead instilled values in all her children that ending a life should never be a means of birth control.
I feel like Steven was the messenger we needed because a lot of us don’t have the patience to argue with such hypocritical and uneducated people but the change my mind series honestly makes me surprised by his patience
He is sexy.
Can we get a "Its okay to eat meat - Change my mind"
Yes please!!!
Yeah this would be nice. But I already know arguments against I kinda agree with them if you really want to save every animal in the world, but I am just not a super nice person for animals that are nice to eat and I want my vitamins natural not by pills. But I may change my mind and become vegan later (probably not), I am just not convinced yet. Especially if we compare ourselves to preys who just hunts animals naturally and sometimes doesn't even eat just catch that animal. For me it is gray area, I would simply agree with all sides XD
@@Donbros I would love to try to convert u. I am a vegetarian. I have been my entire life. I started bc of my religion but now I am not religious at all. However I found a new reasoning to stay vegetarian. I hope to become vegan eventually.
The reason why I would not eat meat are for economical purposes, not for sympathetic ones.
@@wisco9er536 im not against being vegan i just hate veganism which is different x
When I was a teen I used to be pro choice, I’m now pro life. but even then I had strong limitations, only cases like rape or if the baby would be terribly deformed, you would need to do it in the very beginning. Now to wait until 9 months and just doing it just because you decided you change your mind and don’t want it anymore it’s just absolutely insane. Who in the right mind would think this is justifiable? Who would make this ok in the eyes of the law. Crazy days we are living now
*that poor daughter who had to sit there for over an hour while they talked*
makayla the sad part is that she wasn't even sitting, she stood up the entire time! 😂
If I were her daughter, i would just be like, that bitch could have killed me, I'm not as special to her as other children are to their parents.
🤢🤢
Ik and it is dramatically ironic and a terrible ideal to Express in front of YOUR CHILD, that was a long ask time to explain that you hate your teenage daughter
Hey at least she wasn’t like most peanut gallery spectators and try to intervene on the conversation
Knowing the daughter was there made me incredibly uncomfortable. Good discussion, but if I was the daughter I would have gone for a walk. That's a weirdddddddddd thing to hear you mom argue about.
This is really cool because even when I disagree with him, he still seems more reasonable than the person that I agree with
Haha I agree. Not sure why some people he debated with are so bad at it
They agree with murdering babies amazing
@@randomcat7246 I have since learned of the dishonest tactics he uses to make us leftie loonies look like bumbling idiots whilst being very wrong
@@VitoHoffathat actually opens up a really interesting discussion on when life starts and thus when abortion becomes murder.
the ancom party I have no idea wether it’s a grammar or spelling error that made me unable to understand what you just said
I just came from an unproductive Instagram debate about abortion; wherein someone told me they wished I had killed my two babies.
Made me wanna applaud you for fighting these modern day monster ideologies.
I feel physically weak having to try and deal with their "logic".
You, good sir, are one tough hombre.
Sorry to hear that Tanya. That's a terrible thing to say to you. Keep strong! God bless!
I am now pro-life after hearing both your argument for it and Matt Walsh's. I used to be with exceptions but now I'm pro adoption.
I can't believe a mother who keeps a baby for 9 months inside her, who can feel her baby kicking and moving says that life begins when it's outside the womb. Sick.
But it's somehow her body? 🤔
Well she is brainwashed
no she said after the age of viability.... viability is after 24 weeks ... at 18 weeks a baby cannot live and EVEN in an incubator ... so whats the problem ?
@@sofiaaa3346 problem is you are still ending a life
@@ryanr4156 hmmm i think i might see ur point dunno still trying to process it
"I have a master's degree" is the millenial's version of the "customer's always right, can I speak to your manager?"
I physically kept shaking my head at this conversation. I pity her husband if they get into a disagreement. HE HAS NO CHANCE
@@iam878 Of course he wouldn't- the fetus isn't residing and growing in his body.
my penis is small, but
Grow up
She'll never answer a question straight, just keep avoiding 😂😭
Crowder: "When is it immoral to abort?"
Her: "We need more education"
huh? his patience honestly amazes me
"Bacteria is life on Mars, but a heartbeat isn't life on earth? Wierd." -Tom MacDonald
An uneducated _moron,_ if this MacDonald actually said something so _stupid._
_Life_ exists _before_ *and* _after_ conception. A "heartbeat" is entirely _irrelevant_ to biological _life._ For example, a crocodile's _heart_ will _continue_ to beat _hours_ after it's been _removed_ from the _carcass._
So does that mean a _life_less crocodile _corpse_ is "somehow" _alive_ without its heart simply because it's _still_ beating?
@@TheLegendOfRandy it’s a funny retort to how far leftists act. I don’t see how saying he is an uneducated Moran helps. Please go try watching his music video it speaks wonders.
YES I HAVE FOUND ANOTHER TOM MACDONALD FAN
@@TheLegendOfRandy What? Gametes, i.e. sperm and egg cells, are not living. Life begins exactly at conception. This is simple biology. I don’t know what you mean by “life exists before and after conception.”
Secondly, he was talking about fetuses with formed hearts inside of them, not crocodile hearts detached from the body. The point being, that single celled life forms on Mars would be considered life (as they should be), but developed human babies aren’t to some people.
@@sloppyjoe9070 Time to get back to basic biology, my friend. Sperm cells are very much biologically _alive,_ which is _exactly_ the point of Jackel's quote about finding bacteria on Mars.
Conception is the beginning of a genetically unique human, but _not_ the beginning of _life,_ as the sperm and egg are also alive. But don't take my word for it, Google it yourself and educate yourself.
What confuses me is that you think a single cell on mars is considered life but a single cell on Earth isn't? You don't make any sense.
It's not murder cause it's not. Best arguement 10/5
Brendan J.T. So that begs the question, where does life begin, and why?
That is the big question
@@LargeCrocodile At conception.
@@LargeCrocodile The moment your doctor says "You're pragnant"
@@Angelface11 Life might begin at conception, but sentience does not. Life is not what determines moral value - sentience does.
He should make a video about the school system - i belive the school system is bad. Change my mind
Explain why you think school system is bad.
Mertianyiva One area that could be argued is how people such as myself get bad grades and bastardized due solely because I hardly do homework, yet in all in class activities and tests I receive A's, but if homework wasn't an area of concern I would be at the top of my class. This is primarily due to Laziness on my own part, but out of school/extracurricular activities dominate a large portion of time, not to mention the time necessary to maintain a paycheck. I'm not saying my opinion should be the "one all, be all", but I think it would be a nice discussion
Samuel Baughman
I mean IQ should not be the factor in academic success, hardwork should be. I was on the same boat i had 2 jobs in Highschool, was in school office, honor society and intermural basketball. I took all honors and like 4-5 Ap classes a year. I graduated with a 3.6, and got into alot of colleges (that i couldn't afford, or had to move out), so i went to CC and managed my time. Manage ur Time man, hard work and time management will better prepare you for life. I got Bs and Cs in some hard classes like calc, chem, physics, bc Hw. When I went to community college I learned that Hardword/dedication/responsibility>IQ. So now I have 1 job, 2 low stress clubs, and have a 4.0 now, and a good chance at a 4 year University. If dont have good time management now, or just procrastinate you will have a difficult life. I had to start studying on like 11th grade when i took hard classes, but idk how to so i got like Cs in ap language, calc, chemistry n stuff. also my school was mad ghetto lmao
This needs more likes
I don't think anyone would argue
Heard her say "me and I" alot which is exactly the issue. Pro choice is so consumed with themselves. Seems they need a lesson on humility and sacrifice.
please do more of these. i'm a teenager who lives in a hard core liberal state and my hispanic parents are hardcore conservative so I'm kind of in the middle and I feel like these conversation without yelling and trying to one-up each other are very helpful and allows me to shape my own political opinions. thank you so much.
lil c you might like Dave Rubin? He does interviews with a kinds of various people of various political backgrounds. It's informative, varied, and (as far as I've seen) pretty calm.
I'd also recommend Rubin, as well as Joe Rogan. Both interview people with pretty diverse opinions, Rogan even moreso though he doesn't only interview people from the political sphere.
lil c Dude, don't let the state brain wash you with its propaganda and so called "education". At least youre trying to think for yourself though.
lil c
If it's about the abortion debate, this essay from 1971 does a great job arguing for it, unlike the people of today.
spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/Phil160,Fall02/thomson.htm
Using common sense will help you go a long way... don't let the media dictate what you personally must think. Same with going to college, they'll try to convince you of things that might be total garbage. I always think this way: Is it in-line with my morality? And, does it make simple common sense, or do I have to imagine and develop this entirely weird system to fit what my professor just told me. For example, when it comes to abortions I think: "If I didn't kill that baby growing in that womb, does it have the potential to become a decent living human being in the future?" Yes, of course it does; you do not have to get into a convoluted debate about justifying the mother's choice to terminate it, you ended a life with unlimited and impossible to foresee potential, the end. See? Common sense goes a long way. And of course, you can shape your own ideas again depending on your morality values. I'm one of those highly conservative people who is against the death penalty. ;)
When she says her fetus died, that completely goes against her life argument. How can something die if it’s not an actual life yet??
You forget, pro-choicers define life at their own convenience.
Plus, later in the video she kept talking about how it made her uncomfortable when he was using the words "die" and "kill" even though she was using that terminology to begin with. Unbelievable.
That won't work on them. They don't consider it a HUMAN life. It's all horribly convenient for them but that's what they claim.
Because cells can "die".
A man's sperm cells "die" every time he masturbates for example.
Omg the amount of eye rolls, sighs and stares at the wall I did for every time she dodged a question or brought up something irrelevant is insane 🙄😭 Why do people like this even sit down and try and talk ya know..
My question is this:
A pregnant woman gets murdered. The killer is charged with 2 counts of murder. Who is the second count of murder for? Does the state have to prove fetal viability in order to get a conviction for the unborn child? Probably not
Steve True actually, sorry to you, as you're wrong. Scott peterson was convicted of first degree murder of his wife and second degree murder of his unborn child... in California!
Shooter Industries i think that the fact that the victim was pregnant would make the crime even more heinous and make the jury or judge be even harsher on his/her/zer sentencing
The problem is that you cant pin leftists down with logic. They keep shape shifting on you until you get bored and find something else to do. They bank on ambiguity
Steve True would you consider California a deep red state?
Steve True ok so your not a bot. Why is it called religious extremism if you want to save a human life and want to punish somebody for killing two people
I was raised as an extreme pro choice and my opinion completely flipped this week finally hearing the pro life argument with an open heart. So glad I’ve never gotten an abortion I would have felt so guilty for doing that as a unknowingly blind participant and initiator of that killing.
The funny thing is. If you would've gotten an abortion, you most likely stay pro choice. Even if you heard the pro life arguement. I had an ex, who knew abortion was wrong, but had one (before I knew her). I told her the pro life arguement and she agreed entirely with me. However, she didn't want to say she was pro life because she would feel like a hypocrite. I told her you aren't a hypocrite. You made a mistake, that you don't plan on making ever again. A hypocrite is someone who preaches something, but goes against their own teachings. Yet, she couldn't change her mind. That made me realize that there are probably millions of females who know they made a horrible mistake by getting abortions, but can not support the pro life movement not because they don't agree but because they don't want to seem like hypocrites or because they don't want to feel like they did an immoral act.
I am pro choice, no doubt about that (male)
@@strxightflush why does the fact that you're a male matter? Do you think that your opinion matters more because you're a male? Kinda sexist my guy
I’m so grateful for your comment!☺️
@@israelchavarri6562 there really is no valid pro-life argument, and no "horrible mistake". It's very rare that a woman can't get pregnant again in a better situation. There is often some guilt involved, but guilt is a social phenomenon where people kindof reacts as others expect them to. So if pro-lifers don't try to instill guilt, we won't get very much.
People don’t realize, no matter which way you lean towards; you’re gonna get hate and have people disagree with you; so it’s easy to say I’m right or they’re wrong; but also, they have reasoning to back up their statements
If you feel shame for your decision than it most likely was a bad choice.
Yes! I totally agree with you, it just unfortunate that some women don't feel that shame until after the procedure :(
Most feel shame Bc they have compassion and empathy.. but are unable to take care of the baby and would rather save it the suffering of adoption or foster care. Everyone has reasons and only irrational people will kill it without remorse.
ItzBlu adoption wouldn’t be so bad for the baby, and foster care is better than being dead
Yao Fei foster care... can kill you. My boyfriend said he had to steal food from them and get beat because of it but it was worth staying alive. And adoption care gives the kid separation anxiety and trauma as well, just mental trauma while foster care gives you mental and physical.
ItzBlu can kill you. But like your boyfriend said it’s worth staying alive. So why kill them before even giving them a chance to live their life. Living in pain is better than not living at all.
Her arguments are basically: "I... I... Er... Uhm... Look... It depends, but... uhm... not really..."
that’s because she has to spontaneously create opinions while arguing with a well prepared person
@@hahagidid you really said "has to CREATE opinions"? If you don't HAVE opinions, you should not enter the argue to begin with. You create opinion through reading and preparing yourself.
But in this case she has to reply to very specific situations and needs time to put her believes in words. Also how would you prepare on a random encounter with that dude in a park?
@@hahagidid How to prepare? It's not that hard. Nobody is required to pinpoint scientific papers, and memorize numbers to argue well. Mainly you just need to use logic. And it's not that random, people are discussing this kind of matter daily nowadays. Also, one should expect that people read, and are better informed, since all of us has easy access to internet and libraries, wherever you go. He is not doing this questions in third world countries like mine.
Preparing for conversations that might never happen seems a little bit off for me. And while there’s an infinte amount of knowledge around and available there is still a thoughtforming process going on while discussing stuff.
Not gonna lie I was getting very frustrated with this lady.
Yeah! I feel like I went on a 40 mins cardio session
I want to smack her
ikr
For the rape situation, my mind recently changed. At first I was like no abortions for instances of rape, but then it changed to, ok fine abortions for instances of rape up until a certain point, but someone said these two things that made me change back to my original view:
1) Is a person who was born through rape any less of a human than someone who was born through consented sex? If not, then why do we treat babies in the womb like one is less human than another?
2) No one should have to pay for their fathers crimes. (this next part is my own comparison) Its like if your father shot and killed someone then ran away, and because no one could find him, the family of the victim decided that you (as your fathers kid) should be the one who has to serve the time in prison that your father would have served.
these are good arguements. finally, rape cases make up only a small proportion of abortion cases.
@@FM-dm8xj less than 1% I believe
And you can always just have the baby and get rid of it
Yup and I also tie it in with “imagine looking at a wonderful, loving adult just living life and find out he was conceived through rape and looking at him in the eyes and saying you should’ve been aborted your dad was a disgusting rapist and you shouldn’t have deserved to be born” that’s awful to say that. A human is a human, we all deserved the same value and dignity.
Personally I'm not pro-life or pro choice.
I'm simply pro responsibility.
You’re right when they have sex they should be responsible about what will happened after that
Same here. Though I would make possible the option to terminate pregnancy in a couple of cases. First is rape and second is some form of abnormality detected in a fetus. I think rape is self-explanatory. Abnormality (any kind of deformation found in the fetus) should be decides with a panel of doctors, case by case. Not everyone would be capable of submitting their lives to a child with life debilitating condition. Such a condition can potentialy significally lessen the quality of life of both/single parent and obviously the child.
In the event of "whoops, we didn't really plan for it to happen" I'do forbid abortion 100%. You willingly spread your legs and you willingly put a penis into a vagina. No matter the cirumstances, if two conscensing adults make a baby, you're having it and that's it.
Now, another opinion I have on this, which is really controversial I found, and I'd love to see a Change my mind episode about it - woman cannot decide to get an abortion if the father wants a child. No "it's her body" bullshit. This of course goes for the "pro-choice" event, not in the above mentioned pregnancy resulted from rape. If a father wants a child, no abortion. When the child is born, the father gets full custody. Period. Being it your body or whatever, you cannot make a father lose his child because you are not up for being pregnant. I understand pregnancy is hard, women are afraid, but both people are parents and one parent cannot deny that right to other.
@@filips989 I fully agree
What does that mean though?
@@filips989 you think a man should be able to force a woman to go through 9 months of pregnancy because he "wants a child"? You are whack bro hahaha how do you even exist
She wasn't trying to convince him nearly as much as she was trying to convince herself.
Exactly. Sounded like she was trying to justify her abortion.
or, perhaps, she has a different opinion?
@@brianwilson49 yeah. different even to her own instincts telling her.
@@____-bp2eq you know that for a fact do you? or are you just projecting your own insecurities about the substance of your argument on to her?
lazy reasoning. up your game.
@@brianwilson49 so killing a life is so casual for u