NASA developed a concept presenting the creation of an artificial magnetosphere located at the specific site, called Lagrange L1, which is between Mars and the sun. At this specific site, it is necessary to create an object that generates a magnetic field with an intensity between 1-2 teslas that is capable of protecting Mars from cosmic rays.
415 Megawatts of power, to power the Mars magnetic field. At the end of 2018, the United States had about 1,097,859 MW-or 1.1 billion kilowatts (kW) we only need 0.00036% of that power to get the 415 Megawatts.
@@B4119812B I think this is far more useful knowledge then what was found in this video. A rich man toss money to go to mars without a real plan. (Nuking the pole seem like a bad ideal as if there is life on mars it probably frozen away in the ice caps as well as it will all go away because there is no magnetic field)
This time what went on in Vegas will not stay in Vegas!! I met both Britney Spears and Elon Musk early in 2000 at Bellagio. Britney just stared at me as she was singing on stage and I was standing in an archway above and nearby. I'm not sure if I was supposed to be standing up there by myself but I did have her undivided attention. A few days later Elon came up to me and started asking me questions about what I was doing there, in Hawaii and Las Vegas during that time. Would I be fine answering a few questions and if I was a gambling man? I stated, "I was on vacation and I only like to bet on things that are worth betting on!" I had earned these trips by qualifying reward points at my work. He asked, "What kind of work is it that you do?" I said, "Commercial energy saving promotions but I had been schooled in Automotive Marketing Business Administration and worked in that field for several years as well." He asked me, "If I had millions of dollars to spend what would be the most innovative businesses that could help humanity?" We talked about electric cars, we talked about solar energy and so many other subjects for over an hour. Even commercial space exploration for the consideration of colonization. That way all of humanity's eggs are not in one basket in case of another world war, asteroid strike, major climate change, etc. These we're very expensive and ambitious businesses to become successful at. Therefore we had to talk about ways of keeping a low overhead in advertising, distribution and the manufacturing. He said, "They were all very good ideas and that they should be done!" He said he had already made hundreds of millions off of a couple internet companies he started. "One of them was PayPal," he stated. Not that I had really done a lot of online banking or e-transfers at that time I didn't think much of it, until I noticed online about a year later that I could buy something off the computer with my PayPal card! Unfortunately I had just received a promotion as regional manager with the company I was working with. This made me let Elon know that I had to wait for a few years before I could assist further. I keep on sending out messages, hoping that he will get one and reply back. I will probably have to keep on trying, he gets more messages in a day then I would in five years! It is very inspiring to me to have a conversation with someone and they dedicate the next 20 years to making our conversation reality! I come up with several innovative ideas everyday and it would be amazing if I had a rotor cell to try and make some more of these ideas happen. We also talked about becoming your own best supplier and starting businesses that help your existing business. A type of slingshot effect that he has incorporated very well. It is so ambitious and amazing that he was willing to put pretty much all of his money where his mouth is and just make it happen with a consistent dedication. Congratulations Elon and I am looking forward to working with you again, one day in the near future! And of course Britney I always wish her well and would enjoy meeting her again as well! Shoot for the Moon then Mars and then we will end up amongst the Stars! If you would like to learn more of these topics let me know. propower101@hotmail.com
Just to be clear, we can't even make a 700 person settlement in Antartica self sufficient. A place where you can breath the air and that has water and plenty of fish
700?they couldn't make even a 7 person self sufficient settlement function, not in Antarctica, but in the middle of the USA, the so called "Biosphere 2".
The largest object to fly by weight was the Antonov An-225. By your definition, the Hindenburg was a balloon that floated and so did not fly. Rockets travel through the atmosphere by generating thrust to overcome their weight. They generate no aerodynamic lift, like aircraft do, and thus do not fly.
Here's an idea for giving Mars a magnetic field. I know, it's probably not practical, but it's fun to the think about. 1. Find an iron ore deposit, or other magnetic metals. 2. Set up a big loop of wire surrounding the deposit. Would maybe take a few hundred miles of wire. 3. Run a current through the wire to make a mag field. 4. Melt the ore deposit with an underground nuke. 5. When the ore solidifies again, move your setup to the next ore deposit.
Seeing concept art of early colonies on the _surface_ of Mars always makes me think of radiation. The video mentions that the lack of magnetic field, so anyone on the surface would be subject to the same radiation that stripped away the atmosphere. Any permanent habitation on the surface would need a lot of heavy shielding, or should simply be buried to use Mars soil as a natural buffer.
This is somewhat accurate in regards to the radiation exposure to colonist it depends on where the colony is located and which side of its on the right side it would limit the radiation hitting the colony due to mars have no atmosphere also with the shielding having recent advancements and rocket sheliding we could probably not have to worry about radiation much
Easiest to land and build in flat territory, so not much natural shielding from valleys. Also artificial shielding is _heavy_ ($$$) so much cheaper to dig under Martian surface.
I'm really interested in taking a trip to Mars when it's time. One of the tings I've been considering is getting a degree in chemistry, a lifelong interest. Work for SpaceX, get paid to do a 5 year round trip maybe. Or some other company that springs into existence to build the city. Definitely interested as long as the health effects aren't going to be serious
@12:45 Mars is habitable now. "Earth like" will likely take 150 years. Restarting the core magnetic field and adding atmosphere etc. But mostly, we can make domes. Most people would be ok with that because people love the "in doors" and actually don't need much outside space to inhabit a planet.
@@benjaminmeusburger4254 ...But space doesn't have water, soil for growing and radiation shielding, metals for industry, an atmosphere to protect from meteors or most importantly gravity. Not all those concentrated in one place. When we have the technology to build rotating habitats in Earths orbit, or in outer space, I'm for that too.
I would go on the first trip to Mars I don't have a lot to loose. I'm probably not qualified in the slightest but I would be willing to sacrifice my life for the future
@@shebb. ok, he has the right to preferences and desires. But i, honestly, said that bcs of the amount of delusioness and faith that people put on the path*logical liar that Elon Musk is. There is at least a dozen vídeos disproving whatever bs he said along the years. Including SpaceX-Mars
@@joaop4585 i understand what you mean, but elon isnt managing SpaceX to mars rn its someone else within the company idk her name but it isnt him, secondly i get that ur mad at elon, he isnt known for being realistic so i get ur point man
You would have to build it deep underneath, then regulate it slowly over time. Realistically there are few options that could cause it to happen quickly. The timing is based on funding and interests within the funders lifetimes. It is more realistic to build inside the planet to begin with. Slowly expand the inside to outer regulated dome areas. Grow over time to more area. You always begin with your own small bubble, then expand your area.
I thought it was hilarious when during Elon's Babylon Bee interview, one of the guys said that Elon's encouraging people to have more children was so that people would have to go to Mars because of overpopulation.
The transfer window at 2 year intervals is for a max efficiency, minimum fuel burn, shortest transit time, for humans. Unaccompanied cargo can be sent at any time, taking much longer, with no need for life support support systems. 3D printing technology holds a great deal of promise for reducing the materiel transport load by creating structures from the Martian soil itself. Many possibilities to explore. In Elon I trust to make the attempt.
One of the more interesting theories about ‘The Great Filter’ is that most habitable planets are water-worlds, and that is why we don’t see other planets with civilizations on them. After all, dolphins have neither mastered fire nor developed radios.
It would be an honor and a really great and big Opportunity. In my Eyes it is a Ones in a Live chance which I wouldn't hesitate to take in a Eye blink!! Sure Earth is beautiful and I do Love my Family! but this would be a Big Gift and Part on Human History.
Terraforming is a multi-generational project. On the other hand, building megastructures in orbit, utilizing mined resources from Luna, near Earth asteroids, and Mars. Even modest sized megastructures will offer so much habitat space that it would take generations to fill.
Random words I wrote today on this topic! Right at the value junction, from tanks to rockets, something like quick connects. The whole "fuel" section as a separate stage from the Rockets. Then can make the largest Starship as a cargo ship into a tanker, as yet a different stage. The fuel/oxidizer delivered into orbit as cargo, to be quick connected into ships heading out of Earth Orbit. No "refueling" just clicking into position onto a configuration comprising the main Ship outbound. The empties can be towed/brought along to be refueled in Luna & Mars orbits from insitu extraction. Or can be reentered, when tiled, to Earth for reuse. The main Starship variants will be assembled in Earth orbit constructed free from the constriction of needing to launch or reenter. Although orbital and the early lander variants of Starships will be assembled on Earth, the pro move is to stage an orbital assembly "Shipyard" to piece together Starship M2s, outfit, and then populate while in Earth orbit to fly to Luna, Mars & Venus with a crew & equipment sufficient to initiate immediate resource extraction & refinement. This orbiting station, designed with spin gravity, would then stage the surface activities, extending deployment times for crew by being rotated off surface. Putting aside any emotional attachments to the idea of planets, our reality will be that the largest % of humans will live off planet, on spaceships, within a few generations. It is orbiting spin gravity structures that we well call home, more so than even Earth.@@clarkjosephkent2876
One thing that this video does not address regarding terraforming Mars that after getting the atmosphere and the gases there, how do you avoid the sun winds just blowing it all away again?
Over 40 years ago I reasoned that mining and manufacturing would have to be carried out on asteroids or other celestial sources to continue our journey through the Stars
Magnetic shielding satellites can block high-energy rays from the universe? Appreciate providing opportunities to ask a question. Personally, would study the possibilities. Appreciated.
Myungsu, a portable magnetosphere could be put on the Mars La Grange point 1 and deflect most solar radiation, but not all cosmic radiation. People will need to live underground on Mars to protect against radiation
I'd volunteer to go. Sure, I'll die but that was going to happen anyway. I'm a licensed cosmetologist with years of experience. Astronauts and Martians need haircuts, right?
exactly 6 years ago. On July 4, 2016 (on the ROUND 360th anniversary of the announcement of the Declaration of Independence of the United States), MARS unveiled not only its face, but also the famous Balanced Rock in the Murray Buttes area - is it the Banner of Independence or a colonization permit?
Have been doing maths on starship and there is not a chance 100 people can fit in it for a journey to Mars even 20 is pushing it. Because to just keep the 20 people alive 50 tonnes of food and water need to be brought for the journey to Mars . . not including oxygen , clothes , cleaning water or any life support systems and other items needed to survive.
If any of you are reading this I believe the only way to get to Mars is to use starships as the lander to launch and bring building materials to Mars. The way to do it would be developed a spaceship like the Hermes in the movie The Martian . It is big enough So astronauts will not lose there minds in tiny spaceship and it has the design of built in artificial gravity. I feel visionary of these projects don’t take these problems seriously which included affects on human body after years of barely any gravity , radiation from space and the mental side of it being crammed in a spaceship for years with the same people with no escape.
For people that think it’s insane to build a spaceship like the Hermes from the movie the Martian Just remember NASA has spent 23 billion dollars on developing SLS and it will Cost 2 billion per launch for a rocket which is not even reusable and will be phased out by the 2030 s A Hermes type of spaceship needs to be built to make Mars colonisation even remotely possible.
It's not true that the journey to Mars will take 4-5 years minimum round trip; there are plenty of mission architectures that would allow for missions in the range of 2-3 years. *The Short-Stay Mission* - often referred to as an opposition-class mission, this mission profile provides Mars stay times of 30 to 90 days with a round trip total time of 400 to 650 days. *Long-Stay Mission (minimum energy)* - usually referred to as a conjunction-class mission, this mission profile provides Mars stay times up to 500 days with a round trip total time of about 900 days. *Long-Stay Mission (fast transit)* - similar to the minimum energy Long-Stay profile, this mission profile provides long surface stay times. With sensible increases in propulsive energy, the travel times to and from Mars can be reduced by up to 100 days each way (one-way travel times range from 120 to 180 days), resulting in an increase in surface stay times to a total of 600+ days. Total round trip time for a fast transit mission is typically under 900 days.
crazymyst 88: Without a molten core to produce a magnetic field which will protect life and a developing atmosphere all this is for nothing. Sorry Elon Musk and your supporters but I guess there is money to be made building things.
We’re never going to terraform mars. By the time we have the technology to accomplish that, we’ll have warp speed engines to take us to infinity better planets.
This time what went on in Vegas will not stay in Vegas!! I met both Britney Spears and Elon Musk early in 2000 at Bellagio. Britney just stared at me as she was singing on stage and I was standing in an archway above and nearby. I'm not sure if I was supposed to be standing up there by myself but I did have her undivided attention. A few days later Elon came up to me and started asking me questions about what I was doing there, in Hawaii and Las Vegas during that time. Would I be fine answering a few questions and if I was a gambling man? I stated, "I was on vacation and I only like to bet on things that are worth betting on!" I had earned these trips by qualifying reward points at my work. He asked, "What kind of work is it that you do?" I said, "Commercial energy saving promotions but I had been schooled in Automotive Marketing Business Administration and worked in that field for several years as well." He asked me, "If I had millions of dollars to spend what would be the most innovative businesses that could help humanity?" We talked about electric cars, we talked about solar energy and so many other subjects for over an hour. Even commercial space exploration for the consideration of colonization. That way all of humanity's eggs are not in one basket in case of another world war, asteroid strike, major climate change, etc. These we're very expensive and ambitious businesses to become successful at. Therefore we had to talk about ways of keeping a low overhead in advertising, distribution and the manufacturing. He said, "They were all very good ideas and that they should be done!" He said he had already made hundreds of millions off of a couple internet companies he started. "One of them was PayPal," he stated. Not that I had really done a lot of online banking or e-transfers at that time I didn't think much of it, until I noticed online about a year later that I could buy something off the computer with my PayPal card! Unfortunately I had just received a promotion as regional manager with the company I was working with. This made me let Elon know that I had to wait for a few years before I could assist further. I keep on sending out messages, hoping that he will get one and reply back. I will probably have to keep on trying, he gets more messages in a day then I would in five years! It is very inspiring to me to have a conversation with someone and they dedicate the next 20 years to making our conversation reality! I come up with several innovative ideas everyday and it would be amazing if I had a rotor cell to try and make some more of these ideas happen. We also talked about becoming your own best supplier and starting businesses that help your existing business. A type of slingshot effect that he has incorporated very well. It is so ambitious and amazing that he was willing to put pretty much all of his money where his mouth is and just make it happen with a consistent dedication. Congratulations Elon and I am looking forward to working with you again, one day in the near future! And of course Britney I always wish her well and would enjoy meeting her again as well! Shoot for the Moon then Mars and then we will end up amongst the Stars! If you would like to learn more of these topics let me know. propower101@hotmail.com
Engineered bacteria that take CO2 and release the O2 is also plausible, and with geometric growth rates, might not take all that long. A series of orbiting satelites that emit a magnetic field positioned in an array might reduce the Solar Winds till a more long term solution can be implemented.
Let's work on getting 1 successful trip and then take it from there. It will probably take anotger 20 years just to do that and then another lifetime until something sustainable is built.
There won't be a chef, they'll be eating out of bags delivered from earth like astronauts do for probably decades before you'll see working acres of domed farmland necessary to sustain even a small colony of people.
C type asteroids are high in volatiles, so you could use them. But now figure out how many million tons of them you need to drop on Mars just to add water 1mm deep on the surface.
Bro you’re telling me Mars is right by the astroid belt and we’re going to need to bring all that material with all that material that’s in the astroid belt… we can mine safe…
Another method of warming it up would be to get a large asteroid with enough solar sails to keep it away from mars and set it just inside mars orbit. Since gravity works both ways (you are pulling earth towards you as much as it is pulling you, just just have a minuscule effect on it, plus someone on the other side has the same effect pulling it away from you) the rock would pull mars towards it. While the effect would only be micrometers per second, it would add up. It would likely take centuries to pull mars into an earth like orbit. The same could be done for Venus pulling it up to an earth like orbit, leaving 3 planets at the same distance. IF you could make an enzyme that would break up sulfuric acid in the clouds, they would dissipate the the heat which would leave the planet bringing it down to what we could take. Again, this would take 3 to 5 centuries once it was started.
u missed a crucial part. if mars has a dead core the suns wind will just destroy any atmosphere we create on there. if im not mistaken with no magnetic field the atmosphere literally gets blown off the planet like a dandelion
Good Luck with that! Besides the Solar Radiation problem Mars atmosphere is only like 1% that of Earths and that is mostly Co2. You have to bring along or somehow manufacture every molecule of Oxygen you intend to Breathe. I don't see that happening in my lifetime.
I believe that it would be impossible to achieve the rate of starship launches in a day because of the difficulty of loading 100 tons of cargo per ship. The logistics of having the cargo pre-packed and In proximity to the ship sounds like a very very ethical task.
Automation will be a large part of such a system and it will not be a single launch pad but many of them. I cannot see it being a single caravan of ships but a decades build up.
How about this, we let Elon go first and he can take whomever he wants to go. I'd say give it about a year, then he can let us know if it's going well.
You briefly mentioned and then forgot about the lack of magnetic field. You can't terraform a shit if the planet has no protection against solar winds.
Imagine the conversations Elon,Bill,and Mark have when they get up.. these guys are the future and nobody paying it any mind.. they creating our future and got the most money.. these dudes are so powerful and changing the world..I’m tryna have them as friends.. invite me to dinner Elon shittttt lol
I don’t think humans could gestate on Mars, the low gravity will most likely affect a gestation process that evolved in Earth’s gravity. Deformation, stillbirth or death of the mother being likely outcomes. There are several proposals to build rotating habitats near Earth that could in theory simulate Mars’ gravity, which seems to me the logical next step which would allow us to “safely”study the effects of low gravity on human gestation and health in general closer to Earth. Not to be a downer and I hope I’m wrong, but in my opinion Mars’ gravity won’t allow for long time habitation any time soon unless there is some revolutionary discovery in genetics or human engineering. Regardless, SpaceX is the beginning of many awesome things to come and a pivotal step in the colonization of the solar system.
How awesome would that also be here on mother Earth 🌎? I mean, don't we already have lots of vegetation here on earth? Are we going to plant vegetation on Mars to then destroy it againg. So respectful to mother Earth
NASA developed a concept presenting the creation of an artificial magnetosphere located at the specific site, called Lagrange L1, which is between Mars and the sun. At this specific site, it is necessary to create an object that generates a magnetic field with an intensity between 1-2 teslas that is capable of protecting Mars from cosmic rays.
415 Megawatts of power, to power the Mars magnetic field. At the end of 2018, the United States had about 1,097,859 MW-or 1.1 billion kilowatts (kW)
we only need 0.00036% of that power to get the 415 Megawatts.
@@B4119812B I think this is far more useful knowledge then what was found in this video. A rich man toss money to go to mars without a real plan. (Nuking the pole seem like a bad ideal as if there is life on mars it probably frozen away in the ice caps as well as it will all go away because there is no magnetic field)
@@fazer9 Thank you
This time what went on in Vegas will not stay in Vegas!!
I met both Britney Spears and Elon Musk early in 2000 at Bellagio. Britney just stared at me as she was singing on stage and I was standing in an archway above and nearby. I'm not sure if I was supposed to be standing up there by myself but I did have her undivided attention. A few days later Elon came up to me and started asking me questions about what I was doing there, in Hawaii and Las Vegas during that time. Would I be fine answering a few questions and if I was a gambling man? I stated, "I was on vacation and I only like to bet on things that are worth betting on!" I had earned these trips by qualifying reward points at my work. He asked, "What kind of work is it that you do?" I said, "Commercial energy saving promotions but I had been schooled in Automotive Marketing Business Administration and worked in that field for several years as well." He asked me, "If I had millions of dollars to spend what would be the most innovative businesses that could help humanity?" We talked about electric cars, we talked about solar energy and so many other subjects for over an hour. Even commercial space exploration for the consideration of colonization. That way all of humanity's eggs are not in one basket in case of another world war, asteroid strike, major climate change, etc. These we're very expensive and ambitious businesses to become successful at. Therefore we had to talk about ways of keeping a low overhead in advertising, distribution and the manufacturing. He said, "They were all very good ideas and that they should be done!" He said he had already made hundreds of millions off of a couple internet companies he started. "One of them was PayPal," he stated. Not that I had really done a lot of online banking or e-transfers at that time I didn't think much of it, until I noticed online about a year later that I could buy something off the computer with my PayPal card! Unfortunately I had just received a promotion as regional manager with the company I was working with. This made me let Elon know that I had to wait for a few years before I could assist further. I keep on sending out messages, hoping that he will get one and reply back. I will probably have to keep on trying, he gets more messages in a day then I would in five years! It is very inspiring to me to have a conversation with someone and they dedicate the next 20 years to making our conversation reality! I come up with several innovative ideas everyday and it would be amazing if I had a rotor cell to try and make some more of these ideas happen. We also talked about becoming your own best supplier and starting businesses that help your existing business. A type of slingshot effect that he has incorporated very well. It is so ambitious and amazing that he was willing to put pretty much all of his money where his mouth is and just make it happen with a consistent dedication. Congratulations Elon and I am looking forward to working with you again, one day in the near future! And of course Britney I always wish her well and would enjoy meeting her again as well! Shoot for the Moon then Mars and then we will end up amongst the Stars! If you would like to learn more of these topics let me know.
propower101@hotmail.com
That are my data, Elon Musk is stealing data from a German entrepreneur.
Just to be clear, we can't even make a 700 person settlement in Antartica self sufficient. A place where you can breath the air and that has water and plenty of fish
Compare the benefit and discovery of a 700 person settlement on Antarctica vs one on mars. That’s why.
@@PureHatred75RR what's the benefit of a radioactive wasteland?
700?they couldn't make even a 7 person self sufficient settlement function, not in Antarctica, but in the middle of the USA, the so called "Biosphere 2".
The largest object to fly by weight was the Antonov An-225. By your definition, the Hindenburg was a balloon that floated and so did not fly. Rockets travel through the atmosphere by generating thrust to overcome their weight. They generate no aerodynamic lift, like aircraft do, and thus do not fly.
Useless nitpicking ; let's be amazed by these accomplishments instead
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@@gePanzerTe And let's appreciate the accomplishments of previous designs.
Here's an idea for giving Mars a magnetic field. I know, it's probably not practical, but it's fun to the think about.
1. Find an iron ore deposit, or other magnetic metals.
2. Set up a big loop of wire surrounding the deposit. Would maybe take a few hundred miles of wire.
3. Run a current through the wire to make a mag field.
4. Melt the ore deposit with an underground nuke.
5. When the ore solidifies again, move your setup to the next ore deposit.
Can put a portable magnetosphere at the L1 Lagrange point
I can tell from the thumbnail that the colony has already surpassed Earth in tech and design. Very well done Musk!
💀bro wtf
Concept art...
I'm assuming that was some kind of ironic joke.
@@PrometheusZandski No im confident this guy believes that the literal base that will be built
@@PrometheusZandski indeed, indeed it was
What a great big audacious dream. An exciting time to live, to witness the first person land ❤️
Heck yeah! I would absolutely go to Mars! Talk about a dream come true!
Seeing concept art of early colonies on the _surface_ of Mars always makes me think of radiation.
The video mentions that the lack of magnetic field, so anyone on the surface would be subject to the same radiation that stripped away the atmosphere.
Any permanent habitation on the surface would need a lot of heavy shielding, or should simply be buried to use Mars soil as a natural buffer.
This is somewhat accurate in regards to the radiation exposure to colonist it depends on where the colony is located and which side of its on the right side it would limit the radiation hitting the colony due to mars have no atmosphere also with the shielding having recent advancements and rocket sheliding we could probably not have to worry about radiation much
Easiest to land and build in flat territory, so not much natural shielding from valleys. Also artificial shielding is _heavy_ ($$$) so much cheaper to dig under Martian surface.
@@jamietodd2560 like from futurama
@@temmiewithasmile2169 Too bad the Face and Ass of Mars are on opposite sides of the planet.
Yes I’ve been waiting for this
Oh maan
It’s a new age of exploration. This is like when the Vikings first went to the new world.
You know, i think, when I go to the grocery store at the corner, that's like i am going to the amazonian jungle...
I'm really interested in taking a trip to Mars when it's time. One of the tings I've been considering is getting a degree in chemistry, a lifelong interest. Work for SpaceX, get paid to do a 5 year round trip maybe. Or some other company that springs into existence to build the city. Definitely interested as long as the health effects aren't going to be serious
Thanks. Great video. It seems to me to be much easier to create pressurised underground cities on Mars than to terraform it.
@12:45 Mars is habitable now. "Earth like" will likely take 150 years. Restarting the core magnetic field and adding atmosphere etc. But mostly, we can make domes. Most people would be ok with that because people love the "in doors" and actually don't need much outside space to inhabit a planet.
Worth it
Mars is as habitable as the vacuum of space + it has anoying sandstorms to cover your solar panels for weeks or even month at a time
@@benjaminmeusburger4254 ...But space doesn't have water, soil for growing and radiation shielding, metals for industry, an atmosphere to protect from meteors or most importantly gravity. Not all those concentrated in one place.
When we have the technology to build rotating habitats in Earths orbit, or in outer space, I'm for that too.
We can’t make domes, there is to much incoming radiation from the sun and it wouldn’t be safe, or if we did they couldn’t be made of glass.
Domes are a rediculous idea for Mars unless you're covered in a meter of concrete. You're gonna have to live underground bruh
Can't wait till we have ships that are about 2 miles long. That would get us where we need to be!
No such ships exists even at sea,but,hey,they ll build them in space?Wake up ,man!
I would go on the first trip to Mars I don't have a lot to loose. I'm probably not qualified in the slightest but I would be willing to sacrifice my life for the future
Trippign af, buddy
@@joaop4585 whats wrong with someone wanting this man, if they want to do it, then let them do it
@@shebb. ok, he has the right to preferences and desires. But i, honestly, said that bcs of the amount of delusioness and faith that people put on the path*logical liar that Elon Musk is.
There is at least a dozen vídeos disproving whatever bs he said along the years. Including SpaceX-Mars
@@joaop4585 i understand what you mean, but elon isnt managing SpaceX to mars rn its someone else within the company idk her name but it isnt him, secondly i get that ur mad at elon, he isnt known for being realistic so i get ur point man
@@shebb. realistic? How naive (or easy to manipulate) you have to be to buy hus "ideias"? LoL
He gonna fail at everything anyway. So, whatever
Think that a job at lower gravity sounds good as I get older.
You would have to build it deep underneath, then regulate it slowly over time. Realistically there are few options that could cause it to happen quickly. The timing is based on funding and interests within the funders lifetimes. It is more realistic to build inside the planet to begin with. Slowly expand the inside to outer regulated dome areas. Grow over time to more area. You always begin with your own small bubble, then expand your area.
Awesome
A job on Mars...Oh, Hell yes!!!!
I thought it was hilarious when during Elon's Babylon Bee interview, one of the guys said that Elon's encouraging people to have more children was so that people would have to go to Mars because of overpopulation.
Over population is already off because growthis not that strong now compared with even ten years ago
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The transfer window at 2 year intervals is for a max efficiency, minimum fuel burn, shortest transit time, for humans. Unaccompanied cargo can be sent at any time, taking much longer, with no need for life support support systems. 3D printing technology holds a great deal of promise for reducing the materiel transport load by creating structures from the Martian soil itself. Many possibilities to explore. In Elon I trust to make the attempt.
What stops the solar winds from pushing the gas you add to space?
Nothing, but it happens slowly.
Bend the space
1000 starships landing basicly @ once would look awesome but gl with the space. U dont wanna drive 50 miles to the last starship
I'm certain there will not be enough spaceports to launch 1000 ships in five years, let alone at the same time.
One of the more interesting theories about ‘The Great Filter’ is that most habitable planets are water-worlds, and that is why we don’t see other planets with civilizations on them. After all, dolphins have neither mastered fire nor developed radios.
I'm truly capable of the trip to mars. I would give anything for it. I have so many skill sets that can be useful out there.
With the Ukraine events, this needs to be done buying all the Space X merch I can to support.
It would be an honor and a really great and big Opportunity.
In my Eyes it is a Ones in a Live chance which I wouldn't hesitate to take in a Eye blink!! Sure Earth is beautiful and I do Love my Family! but this would be a Big Gift and Part on Human History.
Space x and Elon Musk should say thank you to Lilly Black who gave him lots of data for all this.
Terraforming is a multi-generational project.
On the other hand, building megastructures in orbit, utilizing mined resources from Luna, near Earth asteroids, and Mars.
Even modest sized megastructures will offer so much habitat space that it would take generations to fill.
This is my work that he is stealing every day, his scientist are nit intelligent enough, that's why he steal data in Germany.
@@lillyblack3322 I'm sorry. I hear distress. I don't understand the factual basis. Would you explain, please.
That is why we need to start now.
Random words I wrote today on this topic!
Right at the value junction, from tanks to rockets, something like quick connects. The whole "fuel" section as a separate stage from the Rockets. Then can make the largest Starship as a cargo ship into a tanker, as yet a different stage. The fuel/oxidizer delivered into orbit as cargo, to be quick connected into ships heading out of Earth Orbit. No "refueling" just clicking into position onto a configuration comprising the main Ship outbound. The empties can be towed/brought along to be refueled in Luna & Mars orbits from insitu extraction. Or can be reentered, when tiled, to Earth for reuse.
The main Starship variants will be assembled in Earth orbit constructed free from the constriction of needing to launch or reenter. Although orbital and the early lander variants of Starships will be assembled on Earth, the pro move is to stage an orbital assembly "Shipyard" to piece together Starship M2s, outfit, and then populate while in Earth orbit to fly to Luna, Mars & Venus with a crew & equipment sufficient to initiate immediate resource extraction & refinement. This orbiting station, designed with spin gravity, would then stage the surface activities, extending deployment times for crew by being rotated off surface.
Putting aside any emotional attachments to the idea of planets, our reality will be that the largest % of humans will live off planet, on spaceships, within a few generations. It is orbiting spin gravity structures that we well call home, more so than even Earth.@@clarkjosephkent2876
One thing that this video does not address regarding terraforming Mars that after getting the atmosphere and the gases there, how do you avoid the sun winds just blowing it all away again?
Over 40 years ago I reasoned that mining and manufacturing would have to be carried out on asteroids or other celestial sources to continue our journey through the Stars
hmm but how to create a magnetic field to keep any created atmos to stay there? :/
I would happily volunteer to go.
Magnetic shielding satellites can block high-energy rays from the universe? Appreciate providing opportunities to ask a question. Personally, would study the possibilities. Appreciated.
Myungsu, a portable magnetosphere could be put on the Mars La Grange point 1 and deflect most solar radiation, but not all cosmic radiation. People will need to live underground on Mars to protect against radiation
I'd volunteer to go. Sure, I'll die but that was going to happen anyway. I'm a licensed cosmetologist with years of experience. Astronauts and Martians need haircuts, right?
Im gonna volunteer this angelic project.
Again you're spitting out facts we already know
Now than i know that baloons float, I will fly to Mars.
Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the first people to be sent to mars...
What is the list of stuff that makes up 1M tons that will be required to be self-sufficient?
could you split an atom to give you the boost you need to get to Mars faster
sooo what's to stop another gust of solar wind from blowing away all the hard work of early transforming?
Manufacturing and building ships on the moon seems promising.
Calling it now, Elon Musk is our era's Christopher Colombus
Fortunately there are no natives for him to slaughter. ☠️
Need this to close the atmosphere hole
Just take the excess CO2 that we make on earth and pump it up to Mars
one rocket at a time?!
@@danielbelchamber3894 no just get a really long gas pump
This would be an awesome idea if Mars and earth stayed near each other in their orbit around the sun
Shenanigans!! Rockets don't "fly" either, they are ballistic. ;P
We better get with the program soon.
I would go 🚶♂️ (fly) there immediately to create a base on mars.
exactly 6 years ago. On July 4, 2016 (on the ROUND 360th anniversary of the announcement of the Declaration of Independence of the United States), MARS unveiled not only its face, but also the famous Balanced Rock in the Murray Buttes area - is it the Banner of Independence or a colonization permit?
Have been doing maths on starship and there is not a chance 100 people can fit in it for a journey to Mars even 20 is pushing it.
Because to just keep the 20 people alive 50 tonnes of food and water need to be brought for the journey to Mars .
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not including oxygen , clothes , cleaning water or any life support systems and other items needed to survive.
If any of you are reading this I believe the only way to get to Mars is to use starships as the lander to launch and bring building materials to Mars.
The way to do it would be developed a spaceship like the Hermes in the movie
The Martian .
It is big enough So astronauts will not lose there minds in tiny spaceship and it has the design of built in artificial gravity.
I feel visionary of these projects don’t take these problems seriously which included affects on human body after years of barely any gravity , radiation from space and the mental side of it being crammed in a spaceship for years with the same people with no escape.
For people that think it’s insane to build a spaceship like the Hermes from the movie the Martian
Just remember NASA has spent 23 billion dollars on developing SLS and it will Cost 2 billion per launch for a rocket which is not even reusable and will be phased out by the 2030 s
A Hermes type of spaceship needs to be built to make Mars colonisation even remotely possible.
Don't need to send that much cargo. Send robots and tunnel boring machines, concrete making machines and 3d printers.
It's not true that the journey to Mars will take 4-5 years minimum round trip; there are plenty of mission architectures that would allow for missions in the range of 2-3 years.
*The Short-Stay Mission* - often referred to as an opposition-class mission, this mission profile provides Mars stay times of 30 to 90 days with a round trip total time of 400 to 650 days.
*Long-Stay Mission (minimum energy)* - usually referred to as a conjunction-class mission, this mission profile provides Mars stay times up to 500 days with a round trip total time of about 900 days.
*Long-Stay Mission (fast transit)* - similar to the minimum energy Long-Stay profile, this mission profile provides long surface stay times. With sensible increases in propulsive energy, the travel times to and from Mars can be reduced by up to 100 days each way (one-way travel times range from 120 to 180 days), resulting in an increase in surface stay times to a total of 600+ days. Total round trip time for a fast transit mission is typically under 900 days.
Do you think what 3 year in zero and cosmic radiation gravity would do to a human body?
@@Georgi_Slavov I'm working on a video dealing with that topic right now :) (I'm Will)
I wanna go to Mars. Just not on the first ship!
once we get to mars SSTOs will be a reality
What about getting the core of Mars moving again creating magnetic sphere like here?
crazymyst 88: Without a molten core to produce a magnetic field which will protect life and a developing atmosphere all this is for nothing. Sorry Elon Musk and your supporters but I guess there is money to be made building things.
We’re never going to terraform mars. By the time we have the technology to accomplish that, we’ll have warp speed engines to take us to infinity better planets.
Make a project similar to the biosphere 2 first
This time what went on in Vegas will not stay in Vegas!!
I met both Britney Spears and Elon Musk early in 2000 at Bellagio. Britney just stared at me as she was singing on stage and I was standing in an archway above and nearby. I'm not sure if I was supposed to be standing up there by myself but I did have her undivided attention. A few days later Elon came up to me and started asking me questions about what I was doing there, in Hawaii and Las Vegas during that time. Would I be fine answering a few questions and if I was a gambling man? I stated, "I was on vacation and I only like to bet on things that are worth betting on!" I had earned these trips by qualifying reward points at my work. He asked, "What kind of work is it that you do?" I said, "Commercial energy saving promotions but I had been schooled in Automotive Marketing Business Administration and worked in that field for several years as well." He asked me, "If I had millions of dollars to spend what would be the most innovative businesses that could help humanity?" We talked about electric cars, we talked about solar energy and so many other subjects for over an hour. Even commercial space exploration for the consideration of colonization. That way all of humanity's eggs are not in one basket in case of another world war, asteroid strike, major climate change, etc. These we're very expensive and ambitious businesses to become successful at. Therefore we had to talk about ways of keeping a low overhead in advertising, distribution and the manufacturing. He said, "They were all very good ideas and that they should be done!" He said he had already made hundreds of millions off of a couple internet companies he started. "One of them was PayPal," he stated. Not that I had really done a lot of online banking or e-transfers at that time I didn't think much of it, until I noticed online about a year later that I could buy something off the computer with my PayPal card! Unfortunately I had just received a promotion as regional manager with the company I was working with. This made me let Elon know that I had to wait for a few years before I could assist further. I keep on sending out messages, hoping that he will get one and reply back. I will probably have to keep on trying, he gets more messages in a day then I would in five years! It is very inspiring to me to have a conversation with someone and they dedicate the next 20 years to making our conversation reality! I come up with several innovative ideas everyday and it would be amazing if I had a rotor cell to try and make some more of these ideas happen. We also talked about becoming your own best supplier and starting businesses that help your existing business. A type of slingshot effect that he has incorporated very well. It is so ambitious and amazing that he was willing to put pretty much all of his money where his mouth is and just make it happen with a consistent dedication. Congratulations Elon and I am looking forward to working with you again, one day in the near future! And of course Britney I always wish her well and would enjoy meeting her again as well! Shoot for the Moon then Mars and then we will end up amongst the Stars! If you would like to learn more of these topics let me know.
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Engineered bacteria that take CO2 and release the O2 is also plausible, and with geometric growth rates, might not take all that long. A series of orbiting satelites that emit a magnetic field positioned in an array might reduce the Solar Winds till a more long term solution can be implemented.
Let's work on getting 1 successful trip and then take it from there. It will probably take anotger 20 years just to do that and then another lifetime until something sustainable is built.
how do i sign up to be a chef at this base?! i know everyones gonna wanna eat!!! i would totally leave everything behind and join this mission!
There won't be a chef, they'll be eating out of bags delivered from earth like astronauts do for probably decades before you'll see working acres of domed farmland necessary to sustain even a small colony of people.
Really? No evidence for aliens?
Watch “the phenomenon” and “unacknowledged”… your mind will change.
Sounds like a eternal endeavor
Yo, lemme help with mars. The greatest adventure haha!!
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I know this may sound crazy but what if we could think of a way to take glaciers or "excess water" and throw it at mars
C type asteroids are high in volatiles, so you could use them. But now figure out how many million tons of them you need to drop on Mars just to add water 1mm deep on the surface.
What about StarShip 2.0?
Bro you’re telling me Mars is right by the astroid belt and we’re going to need to bring all that material with all that material that’s in the astroid belt… we can mine safe…
technically anything that uses wings to fly is actually floating
We need to solve the gravity equation
I think that we will see men on Mars in my life time which is not that much left.
Nitpicking but it’s hundreds of billions of stars in the Milky Way, not trillions.
Another method of warming it up would be to get a large asteroid with enough solar sails to keep it away from mars and set it just inside mars orbit. Since gravity works both ways (you are pulling earth towards you as much as it is pulling you, just just have a minuscule effect on it, plus someone on the other side has the same effect pulling it away from you) the rock would pull mars towards it. While the effect would only be micrometers per second, it would add up. It would likely take centuries to pull mars into an earth like orbit. The same could be done for Venus pulling it up to an earth like orbit, leaving 3 planets at the same distance. IF you could make an enzyme that would break up sulfuric acid in the clouds, they would dissipate the the heat which would leave the planet bringing it down to what we could take. Again, this would take 3 to 5 centuries once it was started.
u missed a crucial part. if mars has a dead core the suns wind will just destroy any atmosphere we create on there. if im not mistaken with no magnetic field the atmosphere literally gets blown off the planet like a dandelion
Count me in! I want to be the oldest guy on Mars.
Good Luck with that! Besides the Solar Radiation problem Mars atmosphere is only like 1% that of Earths and that is mostly Co2. You have to bring along or somehow manufacture every molecule of Oxygen you intend to Breathe. I don't see that happening in my lifetime.
None of us will see it because it takes time but it will happen
id go to mars any day
I believe that it would be impossible to achieve the rate of starship launches in a day because of the difficulty of loading 100 tons of cargo per ship. The logistics of having the cargo pre-packed and In proximity to the ship sounds like a very very ethical task.
Automation will be a large part of such a system and it will not be a single launch pad but many of them.
I cannot see it being a single caravan of ships but a decades build up.
How about this, we let Elon go first and he can take whomever he wants to go. I'd say give it about a year, then he can let us know if it's going well.
He won't be going first, but there will be no shortage of applicants for the trip.
I'd love and work at mars
10:30 Not enough stuff on mar's to get 1/1000th the way there
You briefly mentioned and then forgot about the lack of magnetic field. You can't terraform a shit if the planet has no protection against solar winds.
Musk fascinates me because is single handedly changing the world
Imagine the conversations Elon,Bill,and Mark have when they get up.. these guys are the future and nobody paying it any mind.. they creating our future and got the most money.. these dudes are so powerful and changing the world..I’m tryna have them as friends.. invite me to dinner Elon shittttt lol
I don’t think humans could gestate on Mars, the low gravity will most likely affect a gestation process that evolved in Earth’s gravity. Deformation, stillbirth or death of the mother being likely outcomes. There are several proposals to build rotating habitats near Earth that could in theory simulate Mars’ gravity, which seems to me the logical next step which would allow us to “safely”study the effects of low gravity on human gestation and health in general closer to Earth. Not to be a downer and I hope I’m wrong, but in my opinion Mars’ gravity won’t allow for long time habitation any time soon unless there is some revolutionary discovery in genetics or human engineering. Regardless, SpaceX is the beginning of many awesome things to come and a pivotal step in the colonization of the solar system.
Quite a magnificent process unfolding...
Imagine all the fertilizer it would take to cover Mars.... Bring some big fish tanks and poop machine 😂
Terraform by mirrors from the sun magnifying it’s heat
We know earth is dying 😔 unfortunately, we know what is killing it yet we're still doing what is convenient for us?
I would go help build the city on Mars.
I'm still curious to see how he plans to mine water on Mars .
There are ice on the poles of mars
"Let's talk about the future of humanity"
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I hope Musk lives a long long long life
He is currently trying to make himself immortal
If I die on Mars then I know I lived
How awesome would that also be here on mother Earth 🌎? I mean, don't we already have lots of vegetation here on earth? Are we going to plant vegetation on Mars to then destroy it againg. So respectful to mother Earth
what?
Of course we can, should, and hopefully will keep improving the environmental conditions on Earth, too.
I am work ing too.
I'd go
Not 5 to 6 year transit window, but 2 years and 2 month.
He included the window to go there and the window to come back plus the travel time of 9 months.