Standing Seam Metal Roofing as Horizontal Siding on our ICF house!
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- Опубликовано: 24 янв 2022
- Episode 38: Part One
Metal seamless standing seam roofing panels are placed horizontally on our ICF house. John follows the crew from Seamless Experts in Branson, MO as they form and place panels in a very unique way. The modern ICF home gets the ultimate siding treatment with horizontal panels made of standing seam metal roofing. This heavy duty metal siding is formed onsite to create seamless panels for the house. The crew used trim molding to frame out all the windows and doors. John explains what is happening where the roof meets the walls at the end of the video.
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Seamless Experts in Branson, MO 
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Thanks for sharing your simple house but beautiful and done full support
LOVE the metal siding and overall industrial look of the house. It's really coming along nicely. You have a good eye for aesthetics.
I did four buildings for a friend 6-7 yrs ago, I used a Schlebach Quadro machine though. And I installed it vertically, and a different attachment style, I'm leery of those screw-ons, esp. for long lengths, as the panels can and do expand and contract up too 1” per 100’ . Even the homeowner /friend requested I use the clip install system. Good luck and I hope that you'll be happy with it.
Installed properly a standing seam panel should last well over 100 yrs.
Love the contrast between the standing seam and the wood! Great look!
This is just beautiful
The siding looks amazing!
Oh WoW looks Awesome! Looking forward to the next one!
Looks amazing!!!
I love it it looks so good
Duuuuuude. I watched your previous videos when you poured, and just now saw this one. Great job!! This looks killer! I was actually wanting to do an ICF with metal siding, like a barndo style, but never thought of this run horizontally. I’ve watched Matt Risinger for many years and remembered his video about this roofing company making his same way on site also. Great job! Oh, also, I’m from Columbia, been to the lake many times! In Texas now. 😁
Thank you so much! We love the way it turned out!
nice, money is beautifull.❤
That is impressive. You won't have to paint it and it does not add a lot of weight to the outside of the building. It goes on very easy over the insulation which is a big plus for the San Joaquin Valley in California. Wow! T
That looks really nice, especially with wood accent and upper railing.
Also, I’ll be curious on the final HVAC. How do you handle excess length on the Mr Cool lines? I’m thinking to install a unit in my garage and another for the shop hoping for a substantial savings over the wall heaters I’m currently using. Thanks for great content.
Well it does create a bit of a problem, no lie. We hung out unit on the outside wall and the excess line set is coiled up underneath it hanging from the unit. We plan on just building a beauty box that will slide up against the house and hide those line sets.
@@jackl9922 They sell different length DIY line sets (15, 25, 35, 50 and 75'), or you could save a bunch of money and get their NON DIY system and cut and flare the ends yourself. The difference in price of the DIY vs NON DIY systems are substantial. For the 18k version there is a $700 markup on the DIY one..
Great info! Thank you, Chris.
Oh I forgot to add the only reason the DIY is worthwhile is they warranty a DIY install were the NON DIY is required to be installed by a pro. But I have ran their NON DIY systems for a few years and never had any issues, but take that with a grain of salt as I am a small sample size...
Looks good, but please be careful when mowing/edging near that. Flying debris will dent those panels and being black it will show like crazy. Either way, that turned out good and is definitely the first time I have ever seen standing seam on the side of a house.
Love your videos. We are getting ready to build our ICF house south of Kansas City and would love to connect. We were thinking about doing metal siding like you did but our Icf supplier said we needed to have furring strips behind the metal because it would get to hot against the foam. Would like to know your opinion on that. Keep up the great work.
You can email us at lakelotbuild@gmail.com. I have not heard anything about heat being trapped behind the metal siding.
I think it's optimal to have strips behind the siding in all situations, so as to have an air gap to allow any moisture that does get back there to dry out, and also to keep the siding material from getting as hot, thereby increasing the life of the siding material and the paint.
We're building Lake front in Shell Knob. We're about at the same point you are in the build and man, the Supply Chain and Labor issues have just dealt us a fit. Everything and I mean everything has been delayed and it's like pulling teeth to try and get anything done.
Yes! It is difficult to get materials and just about everything we need for the house right now.
Random question: Between the ICF & Steel siding, have you had issues with cell service or performance? The construction methods result in you living in a big metal box, basically a faraday cage with windows.
Great question. We have no problem using our cell phones and we actually use T-Mobile internet for our Wi-Fi. We stream everything. There's not another cable in our house other than electric.. We're able to use it upstairs and downstairs with no problem.
I have thought about that but never done it on the walls. Very disappointed to not see strapping and a rain screen application. The materials lend themselves to such a use. What gauge steel was used in running the panels? Often too light a gauge will dent easily in traffic areas. Does have a very nice look. I am always one to prioritize function over aesthetics so my choice would have been a light color if in a cooling zone and the dark color in a heating zone. I am in a heating zone so your choice would be good for here. Win/win dark panel looks good and helps heat if the sun would ever come out!
Thank you for watching! We have Xypex additive in the concrete so there is no need for vapor barrier. With standing seam steel we didn't worry really about a need to breathe or creating space with strapping. The siding guys never suggested it was needed. We did do a rain screen where the wood on the house is even with the Xypex because we agreed the wood needed to be held away from the house and water needed a way to run down behind it.
Totally killer
John, Fantastic just wondering about you not using a water proofing before sidding...Your thoughts on this please Thanks Paul
Thank you for watching! We have Xypex concrete addictive in all of the concrete walls which waterproofs the concrete and makes a vapor barrier unnecessary.
Fantastic work. Would it be better to have a water proof membrane on the icf exterior.
So we used a concrete addictive called Xypex in all of the concrete for the house. This additive makes the concrete waterproof and thus you do not need to add a water vapor barrier. Is very cool stuff. I think we talk about it a little bit in some of the ICF concrete pours that we have in earlier videos.
@@LakeLotBuild : thanks for the info.
It looks like you used a fluid applied membrane system to waterproof your roof. Which product did you go with? Unless I'm mistaken I don't think it was covered in any of the previous episodes. Also, did you do it yourself or have a contractor or authorized installer do it? When I build my house it will also have a flat roof and I'm planning on using a fluid applied membrane system. I am still researching different options, I don't think Ive see the one you used which would be hard to mistake given it's blue color.
We did ourselves. It is a silicone rubber membrane suggested by a roofer friend of ours. We painted it one ourselves. Two things coats. So far it is working great!
They didn't put any sealant or some type of zip covering on before the siding
We have waterproofing in the concrete. Extra barrier is not necessary.
how did you decide to cover with steel siding? why no vapor barrier?
We love the look of steel and we also wanted something maintenance free and long lasting. There is no vapor barrier because we used Xypex additive in the concrete which is a waterproofing additive, so there is no need for vapor barrier.
nice. whats the approx cost per sq ft in your area for standing seam?
Expensive! LOL. I think it runs $9-10 per.
Why a concrete structure rather than wood framing?
How did you deal with the AC line sets?
We are having the steel siding guys cover them with the same siding. It will take a bit of work to bend the metal and cover the line sets, but at least we have access to them easily now in case we need to access them in the future.
I am planning to build a home, icf was my first choice but i heard a lot how termites might be an issue for this type of construction how did you solve that issue
We really don't have any wood in the house as the walls are all concrete and our roof is as well. Most people who build ICF though and have traditional wood rafters use pretreatment or have a company to treat and monitor for termites.
@@LakeLotBuild thank you loved your build so much great inspiration for my family
That is mostly a myth.. The main issue is you can't get a warranty from most termite extermination companies (because they can't see the tubes the termites use to get around), but since there is NO WOOD for them to consume, who cares... Now there are ways to mitigate it and that is using a peel and stick membrane on the outside (some are termite proof) and another is to put a concrete band around the bottom of the ICF to force the termites out of the foam so their tubes are visible, but again this is extremely rare...
Why no waterproofing of icf?
We have Xypex additive in the concrete which works as water proof barrier.
your pretty good ole son.
No poly wall waterproofing? interesting.
Hi, thanks for watching! We have Xypex in all of the concrete which is a chemical additive that waterproofs the concrete so that a vapor barrier is not needed. We talk about in a couple of our earlier videos when we pour the walls.