@@luisGarcia-hq8mp that's not really how stats work, can't just double add them together. By that logic if you could somehow hit 4 times you'd have a 120% chance of flinching. It's 2 different 30% chances so the odds are a bit lower, two chances at 30% is (1-0.7^2) = %51
With Parental Bond, Iron Head has a 51% chance to flinch, which makes the chance of flinching 4 times in a row a little under 7%, which is still low, but not as insane as it seemed.
Where do we get 51% from? Iron head is a 30% chance to flinch and parental bond lowers the total damage but not the rate of effect so it’s a 60% chance
For the iron head flinches, due to parental bond, the chance of a flinch is 51%. Iron head has a 30% chance to flinch, with that being applied twice, it leaves a 49% to move. The chance of 5 in a row is…about 1/32 ish.
@@bigloglog No, that’s not how chances work. You multiply the chances instead of adding them. In this case, the opponent has a 70% chance to move per hit. So, you times 70% (or 0.7) by 70% to make 49% to move, so a 51% chance to be flinched.
A Then We Fight format of "You wouldn't believe that..." Example: Gastly: "You wouldn't believe that this can learn Ice Punch" Pachirisu: "You wouldn't believe that this won a World Championship" Emboar: "You wouldn't believe that this is Shady's favourite pokemon"
My grandma who doesn’t speak any English found your guy’s laugh very amusing, as I was playing it on my car radio while driving her around and she started giggling
Bro, between this and Shady's fight in Pat's recent video his luck has been going crazy... ...in the wrong direction. These flinches were crazy. But congrats to Shady! GG!
Yup, which is why it's infinitely worse despite having a better typing. Giving a revenge ability to a glass cannon is like giving contrary to a pokemon with only buffing moves.
8:40 clearly something isn't working in Luke's brain because he couldn't come up with the word he wanted to say, then said 'thethaurus' as if he had a slight lisp 😅😅
Can we just talk about how Luke hit Destiny Bond frame 1 even tho ran a focus sash😂😂😂 Not considering Cinderace's Parental Bond bc he would only know that after he atk'd.
@@lukesullivan885 no, that's not how it works. Possibilities can't just be doubled like that. Well, if you have a coin, flip it and say if it's fair, then it has a 50% chance being heads. But flip it 2 times doesn't making it 50%×2=100% chance to be heads, it's a (100%-50%^2)=75% chance. That's how possibility works. And for your example, if the flinch chance is 20%, then parental bond boost it to 36%, not 40%.
Idk if parental bond is correctly coded, but since you have a flinch chance with both of your hits (as it should be), chances of you flinching with iron head (each hit has a 30% chance to flinch) are 51%. The only way to not get flinched is to not flinch by either move which is 0.7*0.7 = 0.49. That means you have a 49% chance to move or a 51% chance to flinch.
That's not entirely true. Parental Bond increases the likelihood of flinching as you said but it's not equal to a 60 % flinch like with Serene Grace because you actually multiply your opponent's odds of not flinching (0.7 * 0.7 = 0.49) to arrive at the probability of a Parental Bond flinch which is only 51 %.
If parental bond actually does proc the flinch chance on both hits, then iron head had a 51% chance to flinch every time. Still crazy to hit 5 in a row
If you ever do this type of video again, you should make it to where, if you pick the lie, you get to keep the ability you lied about. For example, if you had picked Hisuian Goodra, it would have kept the Huge Power
There should a little caveat for these. If someone somehow gets one of the legend horses and calyrex, you should be able to toss that fella on the horse and bring 5 pokemon instead of 6 with them separate
As someone who has practically grown up watching both you and Shady it literally makes me so happy when you both collab for videos~ Thank you for this video it really brightened my day and keep up the great work both of you! 💜💜💜💜💜💜
Iron Head has a 30% of flinching. With Parental Bond each hit gives you that chance. The chance that one of them flinch is 51%. So the chance of getting 5 consecutive flinches would be about 3.45%.
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I know your pain Shady. I got into a fight with an alolan dugtrio that hit iron head 3 times in one turn. I flinched for 15 turns in a row before I could play the game.
Ideas for matches. Prepare a box or two with random mons with random abilities and then alternate drafting a team. Randomize 6 pokemon, 6 abilites, 6 items, etc. And then make the beat combinations possible
Bro these dudes were fighting about the fact that the other one forgot when they’re channels were made and then the editor still proved both of them wrong
An idea for a video would be to do the same thing, BUT, you have to keep the ability on the Pokémon. So if you lie and the other person chooses the lie, they have to give that Pokémon the false ability
Give me a dollar for every flinch in then video. 👁️👁️
No money for you shady
Here is $5
Every time it was a 60% to flinch since Iron Head has a 30% chance to flinch, and hitting twice makes that 2 times that. Pretty unlucky either way
@@luisGarcia-hq8mp that's not really how stats work, can't just double add them together. By that logic if you could somehow hit 4 times you'd have a 120% chance of flinching. It's 2 different 30% chances so the odds are a bit lower, two chances at 30% is (1-0.7^2) = %51
Jhon got you good
With Parental Bond, Iron Head has a 51% chance to flinch, which makes the chance of flinching 4 times in a row a little under 7%, which is still low, but not as insane as it seemed.
More likely that it happens than razor leaf missing.
It was 5 times in a row tho
@@m.d.7663 My bad, that makes it about a 3.5% chance then
@@15KMHThen just as likely as a compound eyes Butterfree missing sleep powder.
Where do we get 51% from? Iron head is a 30% chance to flinch and parental bond lowers the total damage but not the rate of effect so it’s a 60% chance
THOSE FLINCHES WERE INSANE LMAOO
With parental bond each use has a 51% flinch chance. Happening five in a row is a 3.4%
"Let's speed boost those starter choices" might be the cheesiest thing lukey has ever said and I'm here for it 🤣
Saying "I'm here for it" is cheesier
And Cinderace (a starter) really did speed boost in that battle.
Could have really messed with Luke's head in the first round by saying that all three Pokemon had Intimidate. Would have loved to see his reaction
I saw that and immediately was hoping he would and then was so disappointed since he didnt even include it
there was a missed chance for triple swift swim too i think
@@churchplacething1308yeah, 13:00 triple swift swim
For the iron head flinches, due to parental bond, the chance of a flinch is 51%. Iron head has a 30% chance to flinch, with that being applied twice, it leaves a 49% to move.
The chance of 5 in a row is…about 1/32 ish.
So about the same as a crit?
Isn't it 60% every turn?
@@bigloglog No, that’s not how chances work.
You multiply the chances instead of adding them. In this case, the opponent has a 70% chance to move per hit. So, you times 70% (or 0.7) by 70% to make 49% to move, so a 51% chance to be flinched.
@@rileyackison4495 crit chance is 1/24 I believe, so a good bit rarer
@@cameronspud1390crit chance is 1/16 or 4% actually
That Oricorio Was Indeed Shiny, It's Normal Is Just A Color Swap
You are wrong
@@ethanhubert4077wdym, that oricorio was shiny? They aint wrong just google it lmao
@@ethanhubert4077 I Know For A Fact I'm Correct Since I Look Stuff Up Before Making Comments
@@ethanhubert4077nah he’s right
@@klcsdc1why do you type like that my eyes are bleeding
12:00 Alolan Dugtrio does not get Arena Trap
True fake gamers confirmed
I was gonna mention that
Yup
@@noahraymon9486also they didn’t call out shiny oricorio, but went crazy over the shiny arbok.-_-
@@noahraymon9486oops just watched through the video, shiny solosis they missed as well
Chilling Neigh being replaced with Moxie in the start of the video is such a “they’re the same picture” moment
A Then We Fight format of "You wouldn't believe that..."
Example:
Gastly: "You wouldn't believe that this can learn Ice Punch"
Pachirisu: "You wouldn't believe that this won a World Championship"
Emboar: "You wouldn't believe that this is Shady's favourite pokemon"
That'd narrow it down too easy for those specific ones
@@haddy106two truths and a lie, then? The first one is...I dunno, Hitmonchan.
Shady in Luke’s video gets a Glastrier and in Shady’s Shuckle Premier League matchup faced a Glastrier today. He just can’t escape it. 😂
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Metronome Flame Wheel in the rain on a fire type. The Disrespect! Love it!
5:05 one of the few times that the 3 mons have the same base types as regular starters, yet one of them is a starter lol
Why does the Shinx line have a 100% chance of showing up in EVRRY SINGLE Then We Battle video?! 😂
"Heads or tails"
"TAILSS" "i change my mind"
Congratulations, you played yoself
Watching shady wince with every flinch was hilarious. Imagine if he was stun locked into defeat 😂😂
Gastrodon is underrated. It has the perfect typing for as bulky as it is, and it's also adorable
Underrated?? No I don’t think so, everyone knows how good Gastrodon is lmao
6:04 The “Actually” absolutely killed me! XDDDDDDD
Shady: *coughing and dying*
Luke: "That's metagame bro"
😂
My grandma who doesn’t speak any English found your guy’s laugh very amusing, as I was playing it on my car radio while driving her around and she started giggling
Shady couldn't get one parental bond flinch and Luke just sitting here getting all the flinches. 😂
That ending was fucking wild! Glad Luke said to to not look at the video length cause that absolutely kept the tension!
0:34 It would have been so funny if shady just picked rivalry for all 3 of them, such a missed opportunity
8:31 the word you’re looking for is integrity or cheeky depending on the mood 😂
Bro, between this and Shady's fight in Pat's recent video his luck has been going crazy...
...in the wrong direction. These flinches were crazy.
But congrats to Shady! GG!
The double lie on 12:00 🤣 Alolan dugtrio has Tangling Hair in place of Arena Trap
Yup, which is why it's infinitely worse despite having a better typing. Giving a revenge ability to a glass cannon is like giving contrary to a pokemon with only buffing moves.
8:40 clearly something isn't working in Luke's brain because he couldn't come up with the word he wanted to say, then said 'thethaurus' as if he had a slight lisp 😅😅
I think he meant integrity
Can we just talk about how Luke hit Destiny Bond frame 1 even tho ran a focus sash😂😂😂
Not considering Cinderace's Parental Bond bc he would only know that after he atk'd.
I think parental bond doubled the chance of flinch
It's not exactly doubled, but yes it counts for two attacks so both of them can flinch
@@111games. 1/5 is 20% chance. parental bond makes is 2/5 which is 40%. so yes, thats doubled.
@@lukesullivan885that's not how probabilities work, it goes from a 30% to a 51%
@@lukesullivan885 no, that's not how it works. Possibilities can't just be doubled like that.
Well, if you have a coin, flip it and say if it's fair, then it has a 50% chance being heads. But flip it 2 times doesn't making it 50%×2=100% chance to be heads, it's a (100%-50%^2)=75% chance. That's how possibility works. And for your example, if the flinch chance is 20%, then parental bond boost it to 36%, not 40%.
Idk if parental bond is correctly coded, but since you have a flinch chance with both of your hits (as it should be), chances of you flinching with iron head (each hit has a 30% chance to flinch) are 51%. The only way to not get flinched is to not flinch by either move which is 0.7*0.7 = 0.49. That means you have a 49% chance to move or a 51% chance to flinch.
“You’re immediately frobbing??” -ShadyPenguin
Am I the only one sad that Glastrier was named after Atreyu and not after Atreyu's horse, Artax? (Never Ending Story)
0:55 why does this ALWAYS happen nowadays 😂😂😂
Round 1 should have been "Mon 1 has rivarly, mon 2 has rivarly, mon 3 has rivarly."
That Oricorio is indeed shiny!
To be fair, Shady, Lele isn't the only one with Psychic Surge...both forms of Indeedee have it as their HAs.
Shady's face at 14:56, what the heck lol. What a time to pause it.
12:33 alolan dugtrio doesn’t actually get arena trap it’s only regular dugtrio
7:00 ish Reshiram is shiny locked. So Turboblaze was obvious lie. (Unless their randomization mod also affects shininess.)
Well ye the randomization affects shininess bcs the SV starters are Shiny locked so they unshiny locked them for the mod
Who else thinks the constant flinching at the end was due to the parental bond hitting twice which increase the chance for flinching
Shady had a missed opportunity to say "Intimidate, Intimidate, Intimidate" for the first round
Parental bond give a chance to flinch on both attacks, so it's not only more damage but also has something like a build in Serene grace effect too
That's not entirely true. Parental Bond increases the likelihood of flinching as you said but it's not equal to a 60 % flinch like with Serene Grace because you actually multiply your opponent's odds of not flinching (0.7 * 0.7 = 0.49) to arrive at the probability of a Parental Bond flinch which is only 51 %.
@@El_Kanto it's true but loosing so many theoretical coin flips is still more likely to happen than with the normal 30% chance.
There was almost as much tragedy on Shady's team as there was in the actual Never Ending Story...
But at least there was a happy ending!
If parental bond actually does proc the flinch chance on both hits, then iron head had a 51% chance to flinch every time. Still crazy to hit 5 in a row
0:35 he could have just said intimidate x3
Leavanny is truly a legend in my heart.
I was about to lose my mind with those flinches. would've been the craziest way to win
10:50 not luke totally DISSING Dylan 😂😂😂
We all know Luke "5 Time Flinchy" was the moral victory here
If you ever do this type of video again, you should make it to where, if you pick the lie, you get to keep the ability you lied about. For example, if you had picked Hisuian Goodra, it would have kept the Huge Power
There should a little caveat for these. If someone somehow gets one of the legend horses and calyrex, you should be able to toss that fella on the horse and bring 5 pokemon instead of 6 with them separate
3:07 🤣🤣 That is indeed shiny oricorio. I prefer the shiny ghost and fire versions
8:55 “and the third starter is going to be ‘Ack Ack, I’m Dying You Idiot’”
This was shady`s best prediction
As someone who has practically grown up watching both you and Shady it literally makes me so happy when you both collab for videos~ Thank you for this video it really brightened my day and keep up the great work both of you! 💜💜💜💜💜💜
In time, just out of work, those flinches made me feel bad for shady, ggs
Gameboy Luke really abused those protagonist powers
Parental Bond Iron Head actually has a 51% chance to flinch.
The Neverending story names are awesome and it hit me to hear luke say whos that
8:28 Man of... Integrity? I think that's what you were looking for
Alolan dugtrio didn’t get arena trap
It's random abilities
@ In the base game it doesn’t either
8:39 Luke is a man of integrity ffs 😂😂😂😂
Mathematicians I need to know the probability of 5 straight flinches wtf lmao
Iron Head has a 30% of flinching. With Parental Bond each hit gives you that chance. The chance that one of them flinch is 51%. So the chance of getting 5 consecutive flinches would be about 3.45%.
Those flinches were actually WILD. Zamazenta says no.
Shinx and Luxio look like they’re asking their parents if their friend Gastrodon can sleep over.
A .dec reference is WIIIIIILD at 4:40, that's some old school gaming right there.
Shady had such an amazing opportunity to go Intimidate 3 times in the first turn
can't wait for Varoom to show up in one of these and you fool your friend with the Slow Start
8:10 This sentiment has allowed my Lurantis OHKO Flutter Mane on Showdown for a while
13:49 leavanny is legendary in my heart
13:05 okay, but missed opportunity to go "Swift swim... swift swim... swift swim"
1/3000 chance for all of those flinches in a row 😭
All those flinches were making ME want to rage quit this video I can't even imagine what Shady was going through
“Is it Dylan?” The GBL distrespeeect
Seeing shaft’s profile pic as the Sada/Turo battle theme starts up is one of the best things
Absolutely. Leavanny and Altaria are absolutely legendaries
Greninja is standing there like "WUTIZGOINGEVRY RHYMESTYLE HERE!"
Funny thing moxie is basically glastriers ability anyway so Luke barely lied😂
Those flinches and the Dylan shade had me dying. 😂😂😂😂
8:30 I think the word you're looking for is integrity
Do it again, but your pick gets either ability you didn’t choose.
Okay between this and Pat’s fight, someone needs to give Shady a lotto ticket
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8:35 Luke is looking for the word "integrity"
I know your pain Shady. I got into a fight with an alolan dugtrio that hit iron head 3 times in one turn. I flinched for 15 turns in a row before I could play the game.
Aloan dugtrio has tangling hair not arena trap only dugtrio and trapinch have the 12:03
I LITERALLY FLINCHED AFTER SEEING THOSE FLINCHES
Ideas for matches.
Prepare a box or two with random mons with random abilities and then alternate drafting a team.
Randomize 6 pokemon, 6 abilites, 6 items, etc. And then make the beat combinations possible
8;57 shading dying had me laughing 🤣
That first round could have been Triple Rivalry.
I LOVE all your videos Luke! You have been an inspiration for so long and look forward to your videos all the time! Thank you for doing what you do! 😄
Shady started draft league and now is just bullying his friends with these reads.
Bro these dudes were fighting about the fact that the other one forgot when they’re channels were made and then the editor still proved both of them wrong
An idea for a video would be to do the same thing, BUT, you have to keep the ability on the Pokémon. So if you lie and the other person chooses the lie, they have to give that Pokémon the false ability
Don't diss luxray it's such a sick design and deserves better stats. Poor lynx fella
Nah bro if Luke had actually won that through flinches that would've been not only peak content but peak youtube short material
12:51 is the crown not in this game? Or are you just not allowed to use the item in the battle?
That ending was insane! 🤣😂🤣 GG Boys!
The word your looking for at 8:37 is integrity
I don't get how it works. Are they trying to guess the lie? Are they rewarded for guessing the Pokemons species?