I’m very happy they’re on better terms. Miscommunications and a-hole fans breaking up that friendship sucked. I hope they can be friends in private even if that means making no content together
@@shaunduzstuffs For real, like I'm glad they're on better terms but the way PC behaved was just unacceptable. It left enough of a sour taste in my mouth that I stopped watching his content unfortunately
Well they do have some content "together" again. On the 3rd of October SmallAnt challenged him to and Pokemon Escape Room Challenge. Even though there was no talking between them, its a step in the right direction.
@@cass8163I don't blame him at all. The fans were downright abhorrent in their harassment and hateful comments. It was neither of their fault's, it was their fans that did it. Mostly Smallant's fanbase.
There was a lot of discourse between fans which caused them to have arguments because I believe they were both doing similar content and fans were freaking out about it and arguing amongst themselves. Or at least that’s what I got from it when all that stuff was going on. This was also like almost two years ago or so. Idk
What really happened (from memory of 2 years ago) was Smant didn’t credit crow for commissioning the Pokémon randos, twice in a row, and then when Smant commissioned a pokie rando his developer (who did nothing wrong) asked Crow’s devs for help and unknowingly poached the next rando crows devs were still working on. But the biggest thing was about the Zelda BotW randos (I forgot the full story there but smant sounded not great and did apologize) and the fact that the “crow is just bad smant “ jokes went too far. I’m just happy they are on better terms as as far as I know they weren’t even on SPEAKING terms for the past 2 years
@alexanderbeale7192 you left out the part where smant made a heartfelt and genuine apology but PCrow dismissed it and basically claimed that Smant was a bad person and maliciously created the situation to torment him
@@alexanderbeale7192 and left out the part where in pointcrow's smallant stream, pointcrow was clearly trying to manipulate people to see things in his perspective and ONLY his perspective.
most of the small ant/point crow controversy was between the fans almost entirely. As far as i can tell they had a pretty mild disagreement but the fans went absolutely ballistic
To call their disagreement "mild" is downplaying how severely it impacted PointCrow. Although I personally think the situation blew way out of proportion, I recommend watching PointCrow's whole side of the situation, there's like a 2 hour vod from each of them regarding the situation. Not great words said, tears were shed, this definitely wasn't some small disagreement, it was a bridge-burning.
@sebastianbenitez6535 I'm fully aware of point criws side of it. I still don't see the actual issues between point crow and ant as being the biggest issue
idk if i'd call it a mild disagreement when pointcrow went on his stream absolutely fuming about the thing and smallant ended his response stream in tears
idk smallant seemed pretty visibly disturbed in the stream where he discussed it. there was a point where he turned the camera off presumably because he couldn't control his expression (seemed like he might cry but who knows). either way glad they're on better terms now, being in the same circle of business and constantly running across friends of friends had to be stressful regardless of the size of the disagreement
@@LegendaryBeastGriever PC lied multiple times in his vods and he attacked small ant publicly for months, while smant was trying to keep the relationship amicable and make up. Point crow is not the victim here, he is just a douche bag.
I was really sad when they had all the problems as someone who watched both a ton on Twitch, especially because of how much they collaborated and competed. I'm glad their on better terms.
Myabe a 1 off video or a mutible creator colab, but never the same as before. Every video they made tanked Pointcrow's mind, body, and soul. Image collabing with a guy so much that people just see you as an inferior version of him. Can't even began to blame him for overractting to the situation.
Well they do have some content "together" again. On the 3rd of October SmallAnt challenged him to and Pokemon Escape Room Challenge. Even though there was no talking between them, its a step in the right direction
@@SkineSkyI can blame him for how he overreacted. There is a difference between being stressed out and burning a bridge, and calling someone who still considers you a friend a "consistently calculating manipulator that has a history of doing so, source is unidentified thrid parties, just trust me bro". I'm glad they patched up, and I certainly don't want anyone bringing shit up to either of them when they are patching stuff up, or worse, feeling harassed because of it. But that level of escalation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Especially now that they reconnected, since that suggests that it was far from what pointcrow claimed. But that's all that it should be, a bad taste. A personal dislike of a minor capacity over how someone acted, and not about how a person is. Because actions in such a heated moment aren't a good representation of who they are in general, just a representation of the worst they'd do in an extreme situation. Smant forgave him and he forgave Smant, and that's the important part. That doesn't mean it can't influence the personal opinion you hold of someone, but it does mean that you have a great extra reason to be a decent human being and not act negatively to anyone, and to refrain from bringing up the issues. They finished the beef, it should be left at that and shouldn't be brought up beyond the conclusion of "they made up". (Ps, I fully know my opinion means absolutely nothing in this situation. And I don't want anyone to feel like I'm encouraging them to hate on Pointcrow in any capacity, because I don't either. Him feeling harassed was the main issue behind this drama, and it should never have happened, and any and all harassment is ALWAYS unjustified. That said, I did want to make an argument about how past behavior (even when forgiven by the parties involved) can still inform your personal opinion, and how in this case it did for me. But like you've probably noticed, I also really don't want anyone to act on personal feelings in any way that can be interpreted as harassing to anyone in any capacity.)
I'm really happy they patched things up, it was sad thinking they might never do collabs together anymore, coz their collabs were really good. And also that they seemed like good friends, and seeing Smant crying when they broke it off was heartbreaking. I was always rooting for them to make up, and again, I'm so happy things turned out okay in the end.
I’m really glad. I actually wasn’t watching Eric because while he was very valid about smants and his fans for going too far (in fact I was a part of that and feel bad about it), I thought what Eric said about smant saying he was lying was extremely disrespectful. Eric straight up made stuff up about smant and I didn’t think that was ok. I’m glad they worked it out though. I’m gonna go watch pointcrow now.
Likewise! I lost all appetite for watching Pointcrow despite being primarily a fan of his, and even finding Smallant *through* Pointcrow, because of the poor behaviour and vindictiveness he seemed to show towards someone trying their best to make things right. I've actively avoided any content with him in it ever since, because it was just uncomfortable to watch after that. But this is the attitude that makes me happy to go back and see how he's grown since then.
I legit thought they were brothers when I saw those 2 together in a video or been on Smant's content binge. Especially with their pfp on their channels. It's a very similar art style. But I especially thought Smant was CJ's older brother cuz I can tell for sure that they had the same art style for their pfp.
I bet they started talking again before they came out and said it so they can do it without eyes on it.. like it'd make sense to be like "yo should we tell people?" 'naw let us have a bit of time to just chill without the inevitable asking to collab again'
Bromance shipper aprrove this. I am glad since they are both very successful and entertaining and now making very different contents. Hope someday can see em bringing everyone together.
Good. It was a stupid disagreement. There's no reason they shouldn't get along. They operate in the same space and have too many mutual friends to be beefing over dumb stuff.
Friends can always have a falling out, it's just that these two friends are on the internet. Relationships are allowed to fluctuate and change. I think the majority of us prefer them being happy.
Basically they had a competition of sorts. Smant didn’t take it serious at all & PC took it a bit too seriously. They had an argument about that & then both of their fans were a bit toxic to the others community.
@@sagelg Reverse that. SmallAnt didn't take it seriously, but Pointcrow and many of SmallAnt's fans did, which caused Pointcrow to (understandably) feel really bad. Basically, Smallant's perception was was a friendly rivalry that he didn't think much about, while PC started to feel like he was the butt of the joke.
@@gruphius I hate Twitch vods so much. I watch stuff on my phone in apps, but vods have four unskippable ads every ten minutes and it's almost unwatchable.
All I knew is they fought. Smant was upset about it pointcrow was basically done. But glad to see them talking more cause iirc it was just stupid the entire thing and a bunch of misunderstandings
this seems like as good a place as any to ask, but does anyone know why Abby stopped modding for Smant and is working with Crow now?? i hope shes happy and i love Crow, it just sucks because Smant and Abby seemed to be pretty friendly
@@TheFirstCurse1 Objectively both of them are to blame for all of this. Smant for not doing a good job of stopping it before it got serious and for being careless about it and pointcrow for being immature, attributing malice to smant's incompetence and not talking through it with him like an adult. You can't blame his fanbase for having stupid people
The basics are that they did a race in a pokemon emerald entrance randomizer and had a miscommunication on when they were allowed to reset the game. Smant jokingly called crow a cheater in his video during editing, this caused some of his fans to harass crow. Over the course of several months, they start calling him "discount smallant" due to them making similar content. It all boils over when crow gets fed up with it and doesn't feel like smant did enough to stop the harassment. Following more miscommunications, crow decides to end his friendship with smant. There's more to it but this is just the basic timeline to my understanding.
I literally didn’t know there was drama until right now, but honestly I’ve watched point crow quite a bit and there were times where that attitude kind of seeped through when he got upset.
@@blueshellincident It was pretty bad tbh. Pointcrow tried to portray himself as a victim but just ended up coming of as an insecure, emotionally manipulative child. Left enough of a bad taste in my mouth that I stopped watching him entirely unfortunately
I doubt they are on much better terms, if at all. I think they just dont want people to bug them both about it for a while bc both their names were said by someone with more than 15 people watching them.
@AkameGaKillfan777 dude, you just chose to randomly shit on me for something everyone was doing and was assuming far more than me. I dont give a single shit what happens to them, and I was saying for people to get off their ass bc they have to address things to the internet bc ppl keep bugging them.
I'm glad they are on better terms but I still won't support PointCrows content until he apologizes. I used to be a big fan and still kinda am but how he treated Smallant behind the scenes was beyond cruel. I don't want to support someone who treats their friends like that.
Even if they are on better terms, even I felt betrayed by the stunt Pointcrow pulled. I can't really watch his content without evoking that feeling, which sucks because his content is quite good all things considered.
@@Hirohitorunguard Yep exactly how I feel. I would love to enjoy is content again but it feels too sour knowing he never apologized for what he did to smant.
Whenever I feel upset that things around me aren't going well and that nothing gets better, I think of people like you who go out of their way to turn happy scenarios into pitiful conspiracy theories because the mere concept of happiness is revolting to you, then I feel a little better.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 This is a 3 month old comment. Pointcrow apologized and admitted to exactly what I was referencing here. No "conspiracy" about it. So how about you go shove it?
I mean if pointcrow still didnt accept the apology then I would have lost all respect for him as a person. Judging by the wording, I guess their relationship is still not friends Smant seem genuine and crow just shat all over it imho
I stopped watching all point crow content after that. To much emotion / double standard without taking the time to analyze before reacting to small ant. Its great if they've made up somewhat though.
Whenever I'm upset in life and feel like a screw-up, I remember people like you exist, people who want to dig a rabbit hole to nowhere because your lives are completely meaningless otherwise, and I feel a little bit better.
Why do I feel like that discord message is fake. PointCrow banned me from his chat for months cuz I said "Ant" in his chat. Now you're telling me they're good now?
A lot of Smant's community were being toxic to crow, and he blamed it on how Smant was portraying him in his videos. That's why they don't make content together anymore.
Smallant publically apologised despite it not being his fault, pointcrow for over a year lashed out and blamed smallant and as far as I am aware did not publically apologise. Just stating the facts as far as I am aware, it's still a toxic friendship if pointcrow just forgave smallant and that's that
@@AkameGaKillfan777 the issue was pointcrow refused to apologise and smant did multiple times just in general without them being the one who even did anything major. the issue is a matter of honor.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 you know what someone who replies with that shit half assed response tells me, you revoke your right for me or anyone to as you said, care, about yours.
Oh are they done being infantile and fighting over the dumbest things I've ever heard, making fake apologies and attacks back and forth accusing the other of lying and making me genuinely not want to consume content from either of them anymore? If I can go back to enjoying them instead of being annoyed any time I see either of them, that's good
@@BonfireAKAGhostsaltchannel what makes you feel that way? That’s completely opposite and small ant was the one picking on point crow. It made me avoid small ant at all cost.
@@Zamoksva I literally just stated. It feels uncomfortable watching small ant when point crow is being picked up by him. He told him to stop but he continue doing so. It’s not rocket science.
@@gligarguy4010 Ok...sure. soudns like you don't even know what the story is. And aside form that, the fact that you want people to keep hating each other is very sad. what do you gain from having other people not get along?
@@CursedAnqxlhe has actually cheated in some of the SMO hide and seek games he played. It was for fun and everyone laughed about it (then subsequently cheated themselves).
It's so tiresome, we migrated from the tv scene to escape to drama bullshit to an internet free of mediatic shenanigans only to come back to what made the TV a shit show. Also women? When have streamers become reality show actors? What did I miss????
What are you saying? Idk what the first point was, because the whole point of this is to show that the drama is pretty much resolved. I think that you were trying to say there’s to much drama on the internet, but this is clearing up drama, and also there’s been drama on the internet since the internet was invented. “Also women????” I literally don’t understand the complaint. In case you didn’t know somehow, that woman is literally a famous streamer, “QTCinderella”. How is this a reality show? It’s literally just a stream where Pointcrow had a bunch of his streamer friends roast him, which has been done by a bunch of streamers, usually called “The roast of _____”. I truthfully don’t know if that’s what your were trying to say though.
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Disagreements happen with friends and family all the time. Glad they're working on patching things up and are laughing about it
Omg it’s boardhistorical
@@featurbi2965 yo
That’s good too know. Hope we can get some videos when they are in better terms.
Hello big fan
@@featurbi2965😮
The two best outcomes for this situation happened.
1. They're on better terms.
2. They're able to make/take jokes about it.
I’m very happy they’re on better terms. Miscommunications and a-hole fans breaking up that friendship sucked. I hope they can be friends in private even if that means making no content together
People seem to forget that it was largely caused by how insecure PointCrow was at the time
@@shaunduzstuffs For real, like I'm glad they're on better terms but the way PC behaved was just unacceptable. It left enough of a sour taste in my mouth that I stopped watching his content unfortunately
Well they do have some content "together" again. On the 3rd of October SmallAnt challenged him to and Pokemon Escape Room Challenge. Even though there was no talking between them, its a step in the right direction.
@@cass8163 what even happend and where do i find out what happend
@@cass8163I don't blame him at all. The fans were downright abhorrent in their harassment and hateful comments. It was neither of their fault's, it was their fans that did it. Mostly Smallant's fanbase.
QT being hired specifically to roast people and her just excelling at it is fantastic
The irony being shes a sensitive brat lmao
She sets up these events herself, if anything she hires herself, takes care of expenses, and everything else you could imagine
@@thatoneguy6065 im p sure abby set the event
As someone who doesn't constantly follow RUclipsr issues/"drama" I didn't even realize they were having some sort of disagreement/argument thing
There was a lot of discourse between fans which caused them to have arguments because I believe they were both doing similar content and fans were freaking out about it and arguing amongst themselves. Or at least that’s what I got from it when all that stuff was going on.
This was also like almost two years ago or so. Idk
What really happened (from memory of 2 years ago) was Smant didn’t credit crow for commissioning the Pokémon randos, twice in a row, and then when Smant commissioned a pokie rando his developer (who did nothing wrong) asked Crow’s devs for help and unknowingly poached the next rando crows devs were still working on. But the biggest thing was about the Zelda BotW randos (I forgot the full story there but smant sounded not great and did apologize) and the fact that the “crow is just bad smant “ jokes went too far.
I’m just happy they are on better terms as as far as I know they weren’t even on SPEAKING terms for the past 2 years
@alexanderbeale7192 you left out the part where smant made a heartfelt and genuine apology but PCrow dismissed it and basically claimed that Smant was a bad person and maliciously created the situation to torment him
@@alexanderbeale7192 and left out the part where in pointcrow's smallant stream, pointcrow was clearly trying to manipulate people to see things in his perspective and ONLY his perspective.
@@CursedAnqxl this just in, weird fans try to keep old drama going, more at 11
They were my favorite duo on the internet. Great content and chemistry. I'm glad the beef is getting expired.
I know I'm late but what was the beef originally?
@@ColemakDH TL;DR: smallant’s fans were being scummy and saying mean things to PCrow. PCrow got insecure and overreacted. Friendship ended.
i hope to see them making videos together again
most of the small ant/point crow controversy was between the fans almost entirely. As far as i can tell they had a pretty mild disagreement but the fans went absolutely ballistic
To call their disagreement "mild" is downplaying how severely it impacted PointCrow. Although I personally think the situation blew way out of proportion, I recommend watching PointCrow's whole side of the situation, there's like a 2 hour vod from each of them regarding the situation. Not great words said, tears were shed, this definitely wasn't some small disagreement, it was a bridge-burning.
@sebastianbenitez6535 I'm fully aware of point criws side of it. I still don't see the actual issues between point crow and ant as being the biggest issue
idk if i'd call it a mild disagreement when pointcrow went on his stream absolutely fuming about the thing and smallant ended his response stream in tears
idk smallant seemed pretty visibly disturbed in the stream where he discussed it. there was a point where he turned the camera off presumably because he couldn't control his expression (seemed like he might cry but who knows). either way glad they're on better terms now, being in the same circle of business and constantly running across friends of friends had to be stressful regardless of the size of the disagreement
@@LegendaryBeastGriever PC lied multiple times in his vods and he attacked small ant publicly for months, while smant was trying to keep the relationship amicable and make up. Point crow is not the victim here, he is just a douche bag.
I was really sad when they had all the problems as someone who watched both a ton on Twitch, especially because of how much they collaborated and competed. I'm glad their on better terms.
Good to hear. I would love to see videos of them doing stuff together again, man those were great.
Myabe a 1 off video or a mutible creator colab, but never the same as before.
Every video they made tanked Pointcrow's mind, body, and soul.
Image collabing with a guy so much that people just see you as an inferior version of him.
Can't even began to blame him for overractting to the situation.
Well they do have some content "together" again. On the 3rd of October SmallAnt challenged him to and Pokemon Escape Room Challenge. Even though there was no talking between them, its a step in the right direction
@@SkineSkyI can blame him for how he overreacted.
There is a difference between being stressed out and burning a bridge, and calling someone who still considers you a friend a "consistently calculating manipulator that has a history of doing so, source is unidentified thrid parties, just trust me bro".
I'm glad they patched up, and I certainly don't want anyone bringing shit up to either of them when they are patching stuff up, or worse, feeling harassed because of it. But that level of escalation does leave a bad taste in my mouth. Especially now that they reconnected, since that suggests that it was far from what pointcrow claimed.
But that's all that it should be, a bad taste. A personal dislike of a minor capacity over how someone acted, and not about how a person is. Because actions in such a heated moment aren't a good representation of who they are in general, just a representation of the worst they'd do in an extreme situation.
Smant forgave him and he forgave Smant, and that's the important part. That doesn't mean it can't influence the personal opinion you hold of someone, but it does mean that you have a great extra reason to be a decent human being and not act negatively to anyone, and to refrain from bringing up the issues. They finished the beef, it should be left at that and shouldn't be brought up beyond the conclusion of "they made up".
(Ps, I fully know my opinion means absolutely nothing in this situation. And I don't want anyone to feel like I'm encouraging them to hate on Pointcrow in any capacity, because I don't either. Him feeling harassed was the main issue behind this drama, and it should never have happened, and any and all harassment is ALWAYS unjustified.
That said, I did want to make an argument about how past behavior (even when forgiven by the parties involved) can still inform your personal opinion, and how in this case it did for me. But like you've probably noticed, I also really don't want anyone to act on personal feelings in any way that can be interpreted as harassing to anyone in any capacity.)
When I heard about this, it made me so happy because they are both my favorite creators ❤️
I'm glad they're on good terms again now. I missed the content they would do together.
I'm really happy they patched things up, it was sad thinking they might never do collabs together anymore, coz their collabs were really good.
And also that they seemed like good friends, and seeing Smant crying when they broke it off was heartbreaking.
I was always rooting for them to make up, and again, I'm so happy things turned out okay in the end.
QT is truly the best at shredding someone to absolute pieces and doing it just so that it doesn't cross the line and is funny instead
This is what I was looking for! I was a bit confused when I saw the smallant pointcrow stream today xD
I'm glad that we get to laugh it off
I’m really glad. I actually wasn’t watching Eric because while he was very valid about smants and his fans for going too far (in fact I was a part of that and feel bad about it), I thought what Eric said about smant saying he was lying was extremely disrespectful. Eric straight up made stuff up about smant and I didn’t think that was ok. I’m glad they worked it out though. I’m gonna go watch pointcrow now.
Likewise! I lost all appetite for watching Pointcrow despite being primarily a fan of his, and even finding Smallant *through* Pointcrow, because of the poor behaviour and vindictiveness he seemed to show towards someone trying their best to make things right. I've actively avoided any content with him in it ever since, because it was just uncomfortable to watch after that. But this is the attitude that makes me happy to go back and see how he's grown since then.
I legit thought they were brothers when I saw those 2 together in a video or been on Smant's content binge. Especially with their pfp on their channels. It's a very similar art style. But I especially thought Smant was CJ's older brother cuz I can tell for sure that they had the same art style for their pfp.
I believe they all have their art made by lycel
Yeah when I first started watching PointCrow, his profile pic looked almost exactly the same as SmallAnt's and cyja's.
Good to hear they're on better terms. The drama seemed quite petty in the first place
I bet they started talking again before they came out and said it so they can do it without eyes on it.. like it'd make sense to be like "yo should we tell people?" 'naw let us have a bit of time to just chill without the inevitable asking to collab again'
LETS GOOOO
Bromance shipper aprrove this. I am glad since they are both very successful and entertaining and now making very different contents. Hope someday can see em bringing everyone together.
Whos here after the anthony video?
Character arc moment
So glad to see this be happening as id hate to have to choose sides on this
I don’t think you’d have to? You could still watch content from both
Yusuke? 😮
@@Ninjabladeyokotofufu yup
@@bigmight2358 🥰
I'm glad they're friends again.
I'm so glad that they're friends again but so help me if the fanbases split them apart again...
I hope they good back to a really good place, I liked watching them together but not if it's causing problems
i'm glad they are doing better
I didn't realize they were ever on bad terms
Nature is healing.
Man this is terrible. Like truly sad.
I mean DougDoug buttoning all the way up of course.
They’re gonna be on Anthony padillas channel, so I assume things are civil
Im glad their on better terms, also this is why you never listen to fans who blow stuff out of context over a game
i still don't even know what disagreement even happend between them both
Stopped watching PCrow after how he handled that whole situation, maybe it’s time to revisit him finally
Comments got bad blood by taylor swift stuck in my head
Did they get the idea for a funeral roast from Smosh?
Best not to accuse Pointcrow of stealing ideas, you know how he gets...
@@zarbixii if you're not going to be helpful, then you don't need to leave a comment.
@@8RincewindThis is literally a clip from "The roast of Pointcrow". Pretty sure those jokes are fair game here.
@@8Rincewind They could've gotten it from Comedy Central
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Good. It was a stupid disagreement. There's no reason they shouldn't get along. They operate in the same space and have too many mutual friends to be beefing over dumb stuff.
Friends can always have a falling out, it's just that these two friends are on the internet. Relationships are allowed to fluctuate and change. I think the majority of us prefer them being happy.
Finally might resub
Damn, when did smant post about being on better terms with crow?
I don't even know what happened in the first place.
Basically they had a competition of sorts. Smant didn’t take it serious at all & PC took it a bit too seriously. They had an argument about that & then both of their fans were a bit toxic to the others community.
@@sagelg Reverse that. SmallAnt didn't take it seriously, but Pointcrow and many of SmallAnt's fans did, which caused Pointcrow to (understandably) feel really bad. Basically, Smallant's perception was was a friendly rivalry that he didn't think much about, while PC started to feel like he was the butt of the joke.
@@cortster12 oh my bad.
Didn’t realise I switched the names.
Thanks for the correction
they doing the smosh funeral thing???
he got the good ending
Does anyone know where I can see this roast session or whatever this is, in it's entirety?
For now only on PoinCrows Twitch channel as a VOD, as it seems
@@gruphius I hate Twitch vods so much. I watch stuff on my phone in apps, but vods have four unskippable ads every ten minutes and it's almost unwatchable.
@@cortster12 ruclips.net/video/1HmVCKA8APk/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Nick’s laugh at 0:12 lol
All I knew is they fought. Smant was upset about it pointcrow was basically done. But glad to see them talking more cause iirc it was just stupid the entire thing and a bunch of misunderstandings
content creator drama is unbelievably pointless
smant and pcrow
this seems like as good a place as any to ask, but does anyone know why Abby stopped modding for Smant and is working with Crow now?? i hope shes happy and i love Crow, it just sucks because Smant and Abby seemed to be pretty friendly
Yes finally before this year ends!
thank gwad
Thank Gyatt
Good because it was stupid from the start, glad for it to be over
LETS FUCKING GO
Why was this recommended to me i dont even know who these people are.
I was really pissed at him before. I'm glad I can watch his videos again without thinking about what he caused
It was never his fault. It was Smallant's fanbase bullying him.
@@TheFirstCurse1 Objectively both of them are to blame for all of this. Smant for not doing a good job of stopping it before it got serious and for being careless about it and pointcrow for being immature, attributing malice to smant's incompetence and not talking through it with him like an adult. You can't blame his fanbase for having stupid people
@@b1bu Yes we can. Regardless of who you think acted out of line, there was ZERO reason for PointCrow's harassment in the first place.
YYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESEAAAAAAAASSAS
Wait they’re different people?
What even happened between those two?
What happened between them?
no idea what you are talking about
Did this require that much time to get to better terms? I was sure that they have been over it in months
So when is their wedding?
Bruh, he's dead
I didn't even know there was a problem between the 2 of them. what happened?
The basics are that they did a race in a pokemon emerald entrance randomizer and had a miscommunication on when they were allowed to reset the game. Smant jokingly called crow a cheater in his video during editing, this caused some of his fans to harass crow. Over the course of several months, they start calling him "discount smallant" due to them making similar content. It all boils over when crow gets fed up with it and doesn't feel like smant did enough to stop the harassment. Following more miscommunications, crow decides to end his friendship with smant. There's more to it but this is just the basic timeline to my understanding.
@@baddecisionthebold2379that’s fucking stupid
They are two different people?
How pointcrow reacted and handle it kinda lost my respect, he was really childish with the drama
I literally didn’t know there was drama until right now, but honestly I’ve watched point crow quite a bit and there were times where that attitude kind of seeped through when he got upset.
@@blueshellincident It was pretty bad tbh. Pointcrow tried to portray himself as a victim but just ended up coming of as an insecure, emotionally manipulative child. Left enough of a bad taste in my mouth that I stopped watching him entirely unfortunately
I’m confused what happened with Pointcrow and Smallant?
Look at the other videos on this channel
What happened with them?
Good thing he finally realised he can’t let his chat control him
Fortnite birthday
After all that happened, I found it difficult to watch either of them. Even if things get patched up, I don’t think I can return to their content.
I doubt they are on much better terms, if at all. I think they just dont want people to bug them both about it for a while bc both their names were said by someone with more than 15 people watching them.
You don't need to project your inherent cynicism on 2 people you don't know in person
@AkameGaKillfan777 and yet you are projecting onto me, someone you dont know in person, about projecting onto strangers.
@@chrisbullock8158 "No u" is the argument you make when you have no arguments
@AkameGaKillfan777 dude, you just chose to randomly shit on me for something everyone was doing and was assuming far more than me. I dont give a single shit what happens to them, and I was saying for people to get off their ass bc they have to address things to the internet bc ppl keep bugging them.
I'm glad they are on better terms but I still won't support PointCrows content until he apologizes. I used to be a big fan and still kinda am but how he treated Smallant behind the scenes was beyond cruel. I don't want to support someone who treats their friends like that.
Even if they are on better terms, even I felt betrayed by the stunt Pointcrow pulled. I can't really watch his content without evoking that feeling, which sucks because his content is quite good all things considered.
@@Hirohitorunguard Yep exactly how I feel. I would love to enjoy is content again but it feels too sour knowing he never apologized for what he did to smant.
Whenever I feel upset that things around me aren't going well and that nothing gets better, I think of people like you who go out of their way to turn happy scenarios into pitiful conspiracy theories because the mere concept of happiness is revolting to you, then I feel a little better.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 This is a 3 month old comment. Pointcrow apologized and admitted to exactly what I was referencing here. No "conspiracy" about it. So how about you go shove it?
@@TheSilentQiter If he apologized, he did it for himself, not so people like you can have validation.
I still can't help it but see pointcrow as a cry baby.
Because a lot of it was that
Eh streamers are people too, we all have petty disagreements with friends sometimes
Pointcrow did that video wasting food i dont like him sorry
I mean if pointcrow still didnt accept the apology then I would have lost all respect for him as a person.
Judging by the wording, I guess their relationship is still not friends
Smant seem genuine and crow just shat all over it imho
I Agree.
I stopped watching all point crow content after that. To much emotion / double standard without taking the time to analyze before reacting to small ant. Its great if they've made up somewhat though.
@@GingerBaityeah I stopped watching his content too after watching the twos videos talking about it.
-someone who was not friends with the person they want to forgive
Whenever I'm upset in life and feel like a screw-up, I remember people like you exist, people who want to dig a rabbit hole to nowhere because your lives are completely meaningless otherwise, and I feel a little bit better.
I dont buy it until smant says it, pcrow lied a whole bunch during their beef
what happened
Why do I feel like that discord message is fake. PointCrow banned me from his chat for months cuz I said "Ant" in his chat. Now you're telling me they're good now?
was there actual drama between those 2 ?
Yeah something about communities being competitive and smant not doing enough about keeping his community from getting too toxic
A lot of Smant's community were being toxic to crow, and he blamed it on how Smant was portraying him in his videos. That's why they don't make content together anymore.
who?
Smallant publically apologised despite it not being his fault, pointcrow for over a year lashed out and blamed smallant and as far as I am aware did not publically apologise. Just stating the facts as far as I am aware, it's still a toxic friendship if pointcrow just forgave smallant and that's that
Oh boo-hoo, now that they're friends again, you have no internet drama to entertain yourself with
@@AkameGaKillfan777 the issue was pointcrow refused to apologise and smant did multiple times just in general without them being the one who even did anything major. the issue is a matter of honor.
@@gauvacado1091 Nobody cares. Go watch a Soap Opera.
@@AkameGaKillfan777 you know what someone who replies with that shit half assed response tells me, you revoke your right for me or anyone to as you said, care, about yours.
@@gauvacado1091 Why should I put thought into responding to a thoughtless take?
glad pointcrow saw his mistakes
Oh are they done being infantile and fighting over the dumbest things I've ever heard, making fake apologies and attacks back and forth accusing the other of lying and making me genuinely not want to consume content from either of them anymore? If I can go back to enjoying them instead of being annoyed any time I see either of them, that's good
I’m so relieved. Finally I can start watching small ant again. Glad they made up.
Same but with Pointcrow, not saying I was completely avoiding his content but it definitely felt weird watching him
@@BonfireAKAGhostsaltchannel what makes you feel that way? That’s completely opposite and small ant was the one picking on point crow. It made me avoid small ant at all cost.
Why can't you just watch both lol
@@Zamoksva I literally just stated. It feels uncomfortable watching small ant when point crow is being picked up by him. He told him to stop but he continue doing so. It’s not rocket science.
@@luxendarcknight7807 You sound mad for no reason, when i commented there was no comment under, it's not rocket science to figure out
Sad to hear, but what are you gonna do I guess
What? How is it sad to hear? You don't want them to be on better terms?
@@LuckyOwI777 Not really, no. I started watching Ant upon learning he was opposing that guy, actually.
@@gligarguy4010 Ok...sure. soudns like you don't even know what the story is.
And aside form that, the fact that you want people to keep hating each other is very sad.
what do you gain from having other people not get along?
@@LuckyOwI777 Okay? I think it's very sad you care about my opinion on the matter lol
so you want more toxic drama?
Smant cheats in challenges with friends
source: I made it the f### up
@@CursedAnqxlhe has actually cheated in some of the SMO hide and seek games he played. It was for fun and everyone laughed about it (then subsequently cheated themselves).
@@WilliamCacilhas When everyone's a cheater, NO ONE IS
It's so tiresome, we migrated from the tv scene to escape to drama bullshit to an internet free of mediatic shenanigans only to come back to what made the TV a shit show.
Also women? When have streamers become reality show actors? What did I miss????
What are you saying? Idk what the first point was, because the whole point of this is to show that the drama is pretty much resolved. I think that you were trying to say there’s to much drama on the internet, but this is clearing up drama, and also there’s been drama on the internet since the internet was invented.
“Also women????” I literally don’t understand the complaint. In case you didn’t know somehow, that woman is literally a famous streamer, “QTCinderella”. How is this a reality show? It’s literally just a stream where Pointcrow had a bunch of his streamer friends roast him, which has been done by a bunch of streamers, usually called “The roast of _____”.
I truthfully don’t know if that’s what your were trying to say though.
What are you waffling on about bro.
What are you talking about lmao
Literally....what the actual f are you rambling about? We have words in order to make sense. Try to say something coherent, at least
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🥹LETS GOOOO