I feel like bus drivers are always annoyed 😂 They expect you to use the buscard and appreciate fast in and out - style. Being late in schedule probably makes them more annoyed if a customer pays with cash or doesn't understand something. The neighbour that didn't trust you sounds like the old lady that I have as my next door neighbour. Probably would have done the same for any new neighbour
@Elsuri313 the bus is a little better now since I am riding it often I know how it works. As for that neighbour, he is not getting a Christmas card from me this year. 🤣
I feel Finns want to ask questions but due to culturally being so reserved they don't or want to engage in a conversation. I'm a foreigner in Finland myself, and no one asks me many questions unless they are in a place which they feel comfortable and relaxed.
@bakeraus I never thought of it that way. Finns are as curious as everyone else. They just don't show it. Now that you mention it, I can see that they LOVE to gossip. At least in my small town.
I am very happy to hear you had not too many negative experiences in Finland. I'm a Northern Finn, and, like you i have lived around the world now moved to Germany in my 50s. Some germans look really angry and annoyed when i can't speak their language 😂. Seems you are better learning languages than me. Personally i never undertood the skin color, racism, nationalism or any of those and it is difficult to understand the topic. My mother taught me that everyone is equal. We had some horroble racist jokes when i was younger, but the reason they were fully was just that, they were so horrible and everyone knew it. There were 0 black people around, but I think most of us would have thought it would have been super cool to have friends from different places, no matter what their skin color was. Actually i think black person would have been very popular 😂 oh.. maybe hated by some as the black guy would have gotten all the girls 😂. I wish you well in Finland.
Thanks. I was glad to hear about your experiences. I do not know what it is to be black in Finland, but unfortunately it is not very easy to be an immigrant here in general. And every time I get into unpleasant situation, there is a thought why people treated me like that, and whether it was because of my foreign background. With years I came to conclusion that it is a part of life here that I cannot really change about. In Espoo and Helsinki attitude of people is more pleasant, based on my experience: native people seem to be more accepting here, I'd say.
@PavelQuiteGood I like to think the best of everybody. Even if I feel someone has treated me badly, I assume they are having a bad day or received some bad news. I don't take it personally. I might be fooling myself, but I think it is healthier for me to believe that. I've never had any bad experiences out in the smaller communities like Salo. There are certain parts of Finland that would make me worry more than others but I would approach all of them with the same positive attitude and make people prove me wrong.
❤😂Do not worry! Everything you said about the awkward situations has nothing to do with you😅. They happen to everybody😅. I will never go to a condo meeting!!! It is the worst and has always been😂. Same with the neighbors and bus drivers😅. We have a saying here I'm Tampere: "If you get alive from a hospital its all good"😂. And who the hell lives in Pernio?😂😂❤❤. Great video again thank you Sir!!
Those who never bother to participate in a condo meeting are often the ones who complain about the housing company and don't want to contribute anything positively. That is unfortunately a common attitude.
@Pappa_66 I will keep that in mind. I can't explain it but there is something I like about visiting Perniö. I don't live there but I often spend 2 days a week there.
People who work in Finland have naturally more professional and daily personal networking or contacts than retirees. Though that is just on average. I don't think any ethnic identity could change that, unless that identity is openly hostile to others or experienced that way by others. Such people exist, they look as if they where looking for flights or conflicts.
@just42tube I worry that I come across as complaining all the time. I am spending more time outside Finland now (which is destroying my already weak Finnish) and does not help with networking. I don't blame Finns or Finland. It is what it is and it makes sense to me.
@@laterlife2931 Most Finns complain a lot about Finland. It doesn't mean that they wouldn't become defensive and take it negatively, when foreigners complain about it. People are strange in that way. So as long as you're seen as someone outside a group, some group identity, it's advisable to be more restricted in your comments, if you care how people in the group react. Complaining in Finnish or English has thus this difference. Take it as an additional motivation to learn Finnish. You become more free to complain using Finnish.
@@laterlife2931 People networks have become less dependent on countries or nationality in Finland in this millennia. But language is still relevant and a barrier to really becoming a part of some groups or networking with them. Multilingualism exists in some, or perhaps many, groups. But even discussions using different languages are separate and mostly directed just for that audience. This is nothing new in Finland, which has this more divided Finnish/Swedish subculture history.
I remember your mentioned in some earlier video of your plans to travel and also about sitting in cafes. Having darker skin tone is advantageous in doing that outside though it doesn't protect you from hot weather. Every summer when I have to take protection from UV light and even stay indoors, I sure would like to have darker skin. I wasn't careful enough in my childhood and got badly burned several times. It's painful every year, especially when you would like to be outside playing golf, on beaches etc. Later I have learned that darker skin helps but isn't as complete protection as I had initially assumed. It can even make diagnosis of some skin cancers more difficult.
@@laterlife2931 Hmm... You don't enjoy the obvious benefit of having better protection from UV. It gets wasted on you. You need to pick up some outdoor hobby. Something one mostly enjoys in Sun. Golf? Frisbee golf?
Apt building storage spaces and bike storages are broken into all the time here it's almost an epidemic in Helsinki, that's the reason why ur neighbor was iffy about it. If your name was on the board there would have been 0 problem. With the bus drivers just flash ur phone quick (at least in Helsinki there is an app for tickets) and say morjes fast, that job overall is pretty stressful.
If the app is anything like HSL one you will enjoy it a lot, way more handy than buying paper tickets. I'm pretty sure they are also little bit cheaper too IIRC. About the racial stuff which i'm not a big fan of in general, did you know that anywhere outside Helsinki and maybe Tampere you are way more likely to face racial prejudice than in those cities. So if you haven't faced much anything there, it would be totally non-existent in Helsinki. Where you live, the first foreigners came like in the early 2000s, so taking that into consideration I think things are progressing well at least compared to some other countries. I live in Pukinmäki, it's a North-East Helsinki neighborhood which has around 30% ppl who have parents that are born outside Finland and I think the last time I saw public racism was like 20 years ago back when skinheads still roamed the streets. Now they have disappeared completely, I never see them anymore for decades. I guess they took the bomber jacket off and turned the computer on 😂😂 Since theres so much racism on the internet.
There are Finns who have lived in local culture all their lives and have Finnish as their native language. They can tell from experience about what "black in Finland" experience can be without mixing it with being a foreign language foreigner. But of course what they have experienced is already history and society and neighbourhoods have already changed during their lifetimes and continue changing. One can try to build some average picture. But everyone has their own specific circumstances making averaging fairly irrelevant.
That hospital doctor wasn't the doctor who operated on you, so he didn't take any position on your health, I just had the same situation, if there had been a problem, they would have called my own doctor.
@merjakotisaari9046 that's true. I only saw my surgeon twice. Once before the operation and for the operation. I don't remember him form the operation because I was asleep by the time he came in.
Opening a door to give assess to places where only residents should have access can give reasons to be careful. If something happens, the person giving access can be accused. Being a apartment owner in the housing company isn't necessarily exactly enough to give access to shared spaces. I would have most probably joined you to pick up your keys. If there would be any doubts in my mind, I would have called a representative of the company to ask if there is something unusual and followed their advice.
exactly, i have declined to open doors for people who live in my apartment building, even i know i have seen them before, but you never know if they have apartment owners permission still to enter building.
@@freezedeve3119 Some neighbourhoods are more restless and unwanted people might get indoors. It's been problematic in some places to keep thieves out of shared storage facilities. Those rooms have traditionally not been much protected. But addicts etc. do not respect special norms. Nowadays video surveillance is sometimes used for protection , which is an additional cost. Locking systems have also become more sophisticated, and costly. This all only in the most difficult palaces. But housing companies always need to keep what of what is happening and take precautions, if needed. Giving residents advice is a very cost effective way, but not all listen or care. It's usually not the apartment owners who have the right to manage the keys to a apartment building. I don't know any black or flats type housing company, which doesn't manage locks and keys to the building and apartments. Only the locks within the apartment are apartment owners own business. There are housing companies where apartments are very separate without almost any common rooms. They may have adopted a system where the housing company doesn't handle locking and safety of keys at all leaving the responsibility to the apartment owners.
Talking about a normal person and using the word black, it reminded me about what associations black has had historically in local cultures. It has been and still is the color of death and mourning. Musta mies (Black man) has been a way to say death without saying death. This is probably from much older times when people with darker skin tones didn't exist in this part of the world and the knowledge of other places was very limited.
@@laterlife2931 It's complicated when people have justification to feel offended because of their own cultural background or historical experience and still others have different cultural backgrounds having different experiences. They can at an intellectual level understand a different way of thinking but don't have the same emotional instinct, don't emotionally connect with the reason why others feel insulted. This makes them feel that others are sensitive and irritable without real cause. I get irritated when people call me white man.
@@laterlife2931 White is the colour of death in some other cultures. And in some context as the colour of lily flowers, it has that meaning also in Finland. As usual, some cultural details are old and have a long history and aren't originally from Finland.
This video made me look up information about the UV index in Jamaica. I found an interesting website giving UV index figures but also much more about this topic. It included information about skin tones and how they behave and tolerate UV. There were categories from which I could find myself. I think I also could place you in the categories. If I estimate correctly, you are not dark or black enough to be in the highest protection category. Not being black enough, sounds like American racist jargon. I am likely to be in the second most sensitive category. It's not really a consolidation for me to be reminded that some others can have it even worse than I without suffering from albinism.
@just42tube in my mind I think of myself as a car. Just like a dark car will retain more heat in the sun, I wonder if I retain more heat. Maybe that is why I don't like to have direct sunlight.
@@just42tube it's more sweating in my clothes. When I lived in Oman, I hated going out at lunchtime because it was so hot and humid. I don't mind the sauna because I am not wearing any clothes.
@@laterlife2931 Sweating at work is fairly different from sweating e.g. at the golf course. After playing or training you go to a sauna, take a shower and wash yourself after which you feel fresh and relaxed.
I would assume you were in a university hospital where they teach medical students, future doctors of medicine. The language of tuition might have been here a complication, if you didn't speak finnish or swedish. You also might have not given your approval for using your case for educational purposes.
@just42tube I skipped a bit of the story. By the third day, I stopped the doctor. I called my partner and asked him to speak to him get an update of what was going on. As the doctor was speaking to my partner, I could see one of doctors biting his tongue and wanting to interrupt. The doctor finished speaking then handed back the phone and the whole group left. When I got my partner on the phone, I asked what what happening. Was I dying. He said he had no idea. The doctor was not Finnish and his Finnish was so bad he could not figure out what the diagnosis was. I cut this part out in the editing process.
@@laterlife2931 Olin toissapäivänä terveyskeskuksessa. Odottaessani vuoroani eräs lääkärin vastaanotolta poistumassa ollut potilas hieman kiihtyneenä kommentoi minulle lääkärin kielitaitoa. Hän oli ilmeisesti aikaisemmin ollut lääkärillä, jonka kielitaito oli ollut merkittävästi heikompaa, koska nyt hän kehui tämän ulkomaalaistaustaisen lääkärin puhuva hyvin ymmärrettävästi vieraasta korostukesta huolimatta. There are significant numbers of doctors who don't have Finnish official language as their first or native language. Mostly they handle communication well, but not all. In a sensitive situation that can become really irritating and harmful. There are also studies which reveal language problems between professionals in the medical and healthcare fields. Obviously more language training and practice is needed.
@bazodee2 funny you should mention it. Growing up (even in Jamaica) my mother would never allow us to speak patois. However, I was around it enough that understood it and might speak it with friends if I was drunk. Now, I have been so far removed from it that I would struggle to speak if drunk but I still understand it.
Do you see differences in the meaning of being Back, identifying with the label, in the US and other countries or is it about the same everywhere? I have come to understand Black identity in the context of the northern American politics and ethnic divisions. But it too has divided in different ways since older economic class or religion based barriers have become less relevant. I have noticed that Finns who you might call back seem to identify themselves more as POC, people of color. They recognize that theirs skin tones rarely actually are close to black. They don't identify with Black identity of the western Europe or Americas. But at the same time as they feel they are Finns, and they are, they notice they have unusual characteristics compared to majoring around them. POC is a identity, which can help finding others in similar situations. This of course includes people having Asian and other foreign characteristics. The way I understand it, it is an identity, where you feel yourself to be of different color from the majority around you and that effects your life. But that's just my understanding.
@just42tube I don't give it much thought. I think of things in a rather (pardon the pun) black and white manner without much nuance. From that perspective, when I identify as black, in my mind it means not-white. Like most black people in the Americas, I am mix of races/ethnicities including white and Indian.
@@laterlife2931 That seems you have been trapped thinking using racist categories supporting their existence. You don't have to take any racist action, just keeping that categorization will enable that way of thinking. Given the world around us, I understand why people do it and why they don't even think it itself to be harmful.
@@laterlife2931 Since White/Black is foreign terminology for me, I have to use sources to understand what others could mean by white in this context. Wikipedia has an article, where: "Description of populations as "White" in reference to their skin color is occasionally found in Greco-Roman ethnography and other ancient or medieval sources, but these societies did not have any notion of a White race or pan-European identity. The term "White race" or "White people", defined by their light skin among other physical characteristics, entered the major European languages in the later seventeenth century, when the concept of a "unified White" achieved greater acceptance in Europe, in the context of racialized slavery and social status in the European colonies. Scholarship on race distinguishes the modern concept from pre-modern descriptions, which focused on physical complexion rather than the idea of race. Prior to the modern era, no European peoples regarded themselves as "White", but rather defined their race in terms of their ancestry, ethnicity, or nationality." It seems I am old-fashioned as I don't accept that term white. Especially the connection to slavery and social status in colonies is not what I am not willing to accept. It seems that Finns were not really involved with colonialism or slave trade. There has been a period when significant numbers of Finns were captured and sold to slavery in the East and even in Persia.
@@laterlife2931 What you call white people are actually mixes of different actual human races. By that I mean Homo sapiens and H. neanderthalensis. More genetic inheritance from H. neanderthalensis than in human populations in Africa, but there too older mixing with H. neanderthalensis has been found, though clearly less.
@fimakinen2904 I don't WANT to highlight skin colour but it is a factor in the world we live in. Coming from a majority Black Country and moving to a majority white country, you would think that was the first thing I noticed. The amazing thing to me is I NEVER noticed skin colour when I first moved to the US. It only came up years later as we entered our teenage years. People of a different race will be curious to know what it is like in Finland. This video is for them. Finnish people may want to know how other races perceive their treatment in Finland. This video is for them. Some people never think about skin colour. That is not a luxury we all have.
You dont want but you still do. I understand the purpose of this video. I still dont understand why you need to talk about races? Shouldnt you talk about cultural differences in different countries more than races? I have lived in Africa and never ever taught about my race or being only white person "mzungu* around. I dont mean to be rude but I just dont understant all this race baiting.
I hope you understand that white and black are primarily names for colours. Using them as labels for ethnicity or as racist people do, as labels for different races of Homo Sapiens based on outdated false understanding of genetics. They are also used very much in politics as labels of ethnic identities. If a person experiences such labels as his or her identity, then they get some meaning for those people even though more objectively such simple categories are simply nonsense. Politics and human cultures are full of nonsensical things. This is one of them.
I feel like bus drivers are always annoyed 😂 They expect you to use the buscard and appreciate fast in and out - style. Being late in schedule probably makes them more annoyed if a customer pays with cash or doesn't understand something.
The neighbour that didn't trust you sounds like the old lady that I have as my next door neighbour. Probably would have done the same for any new neighbour
@Elsuri313 the bus is a little better now since I am riding it often I know how it works. As for that neighbour, he is not getting a Christmas card from me this year. 🤣
I feel Finns want to ask questions but due to culturally being so reserved they don't or want to engage in a conversation. I'm a foreigner in Finland myself, and no one asks me many questions unless they are in a place which they feel comfortable and relaxed.
@bakeraus I never thought of it that way. Finns are as curious as everyone else. They just don't show it. Now that you mention it, I can see that they LOVE to gossip. At least in my small town.
@@laterlife2931 They say the best security system in Finland is the retired grandmas. They see and know everything hehe
I am very happy to hear you had not too many negative experiences in Finland. I'm a Northern Finn, and, like you i have lived around the world now moved to Germany in my 50s. Some germans look really angry and annoyed when i can't speak their language 😂. Seems you are better learning languages than me. Personally i never undertood the skin color, racism, nationalism or any of those and it is difficult to understand the topic. My mother taught me that everyone is equal. We had some horroble racist jokes when i was younger, but the reason they were fully was just that, they were so horrible and everyone knew it. There were 0 black people around, but I think most of us would have thought it would have been super cool to have friends from different places, no matter what their skin color was. Actually i think black person would have been very popular 😂 oh.. maybe hated by some as the black guy would have gotten all the girls 😂. I wish you well in Finland.
@jannekallio5047 thanks for the feedback. It's always interesting to hear other people's thoughts.
Thanks. I was glad to hear about your experiences.
I do not know what it is to be black in Finland, but unfortunately it is not very easy to be an immigrant here in general.
And every time I get into unpleasant situation, there is a thought why people treated me like that, and whether it was because of my foreign background.
With years I came to conclusion that it is a part of life here that I cannot really change about.
In Espoo and Helsinki attitude of people is more pleasant, based on my experience: native people seem to be more accepting here, I'd say.
@PavelQuiteGood I like to think the best of everybody. Even if I feel someone has treated me badly, I assume they are having a bad day or received some bad news. I don't take it personally. I might be fooling myself, but I think it is healthier for me to believe that. I've never had any bad experiences out in the smaller communities like Salo. There are certain parts of Finland that would make me worry more than others but I would approach all of them with the same positive attitude and make people prove me wrong.
I'm so glad to hear that the Finns have primarily treated you well. ❤
@Fortuna88828 I think a positive attitude is the most important thing people can have. 😄
Learning some basic Finnish could go a long ways.
@mikeh2772 yeah, I need to get back to studying.
Even though most people have brains, which are especially good in recognizing people and remembering them, not all have such excellent abilities.
❤😂Do not worry! Everything you said about the awkward situations has nothing to do with you😅. They happen to everybody😅. I will never go to a condo meeting!!! It is the worst and has always been😂. Same with the neighbors and bus drivers😅. We have a saying here I'm Tampere: "If you get alive from a hospital its all good"😂. And who the hell lives in Pernio?😂😂❤❤. Great video again thank you Sir!!
Those who never bother to participate in a condo meeting are often the ones who complain about the housing company and don't want to contribute anything positively.
That is unfortunately a common attitude.
@Pappa_66 I will keep that in mind. I can't explain it but there is something I like about visiting Perniö. I don't live there but I often spend 2 days a week there.
@@laterlife2931 💓😁just kiddin! Pernio is a great place😁
People who work in Finland have naturally more professional and daily personal networking or contacts than retirees. Though that is just on average.
I don't think any ethnic identity could change that, unless that identity is openly hostile to others or experienced that way by others.
Such people exist, they look as if they where looking for flights or conflicts.
@just42tube I worry that I come across as complaining all the time. I am spending more time outside Finland now (which is destroying my already weak Finnish) and does not help with networking. I don't blame Finns or Finland. It is what it is and it makes sense to me.
@@laterlife2931
Most Finns complain a lot about Finland. It doesn't mean that they wouldn't become defensive and take it negatively, when foreigners complain about it.
People are strange in that way.
So as long as you're seen as someone outside a group, some group identity, it's advisable to be more restricted in your comments, if you care how people in the group react. Complaining in Finnish or English has thus this difference.
Take it as an additional motivation to learn Finnish. You become more free to complain using Finnish.
@@laterlife2931
People networks have become less dependent on countries or nationality in Finland in this millennia. But language is still relevant and a barrier to really becoming a part of some groups or networking with them. Multilingualism exists in some, or perhaps many, groups. But even discussions using different languages are separate and mostly directed just for that audience.
This is nothing new in Finland, which has this more divided Finnish/Swedish subculture history.
I remember your mentioned in some earlier video of your plans to travel and also about sitting in cafes. Having darker skin tone is advantageous in doing that outside though it doesn't protect you from hot weather.
Every summer when I have to take protection from UV light and even stay indoors, I sure would like to have darker skin. I wasn't careful enough in my childhood and got badly burned several times. It's painful every year, especially when you would like to be outside playing golf, on beaches etc.
Later I have learned that darker skin helps but isn't as complete protection as I had initially assumed. It can even make diagnosis of some skin cancers more difficult.
@just42tube I don't like feeling the sun on my skin. Even sitting outside, I always want to be in the shade.
@@laterlife2931
Hmm... You don't enjoy the obvious benefit of having better protection from UV.
It gets wasted on you.
You need to pick up some outdoor hobby. Something one mostly enjoys in Sun. Golf? Frisbee golf?
Apt building storage spaces and bike storages are broken into all the time here it's almost an epidemic in Helsinki, that's the reason why ur neighbor was iffy about it. If your name was on the board there would have been 0 problem. With the bus drivers just flash ur phone quick (at least in Helsinki there is an app for tickets) and say morjes fast, that job overall is pretty stressful.
@hahaayukko5543 there is an app for the bus. Now that you have reminded me, I will download it. 📱
@@laterlife2931 The app is 10000 times easier to use!! You will enjoy it a lot if its anything like the HSL app.
If the app is anything like HSL one you will enjoy it a lot, way more handy than buying paper tickets. I'm pretty sure they are also little bit cheaper too IIRC.
About the racial stuff which i'm not a big fan of in general, did you know that anywhere outside Helsinki and maybe Tampere you are way more likely to face racial prejudice than in those cities. So if you haven't faced much anything there, it would be totally non-existent in Helsinki. Where you live, the first foreigners came like in the early 2000s, so taking that into consideration I think things are progressing well at least compared to some other countries.
I live in Pukinmäki, it's a North-East Helsinki neighborhood which has around 30% ppl who have parents that are born outside Finland and I think the last time I saw public racism was like 20 years ago back when skinheads still roamed the streets. Now they have disappeared completely, I never see them anymore for decades. I guess they took the bomber jacket off and turned the computer on 😂😂 Since theres so much racism on the internet.
There are Finns who have lived in local culture all their lives and have Finnish as their native language.
They can tell from experience about what "black in Finland" experience can be without mixing it with being a foreign language foreigner.
But of course what they have experienced is already history and society and neighbourhoods have already changed during their lifetimes and continue changing.
One can try to build some average picture. But everyone has their own specific circumstances making averaging fairly irrelevant.
That hospital doctor wasn't the doctor who operated on you, so he didn't take any position on your health, I just had the same situation, if there had been a problem, they would have called my own doctor.
@merjakotisaari9046 that's true. I only saw my surgeon twice. Once before the operation and for the operation. I don't remember him form the operation because I was asleep by the time he came in.
Opening a door to give assess to places where only residents should have access can give reasons to be careful. If something happens, the person giving access can be accused.
Being a apartment owner in the housing company isn't necessarily exactly enough to give access to shared spaces.
I would have most probably joined you to pick up your keys.
If there would be any doubts in my mind, I would have called a representative of the company to ask if there is something unusual and followed their advice.
exactly, i have declined to open doors for people who live in my apartment building, even i know i have seen them before, but you never know if they have apartment owners permission still to enter building.
@@freezedeve3119
Some neighbourhoods are more restless and unwanted people might get indoors.
It's been problematic in some places to keep thieves out of shared storage facilities. Those rooms have traditionally not been much protected.
But addicts etc. do not respect special norms. Nowadays video surveillance is sometimes used for protection , which is an additional cost. Locking systems have also become more sophisticated, and costly.
This all only in the most difficult palaces. But housing companies always need to keep what of what is happening and take precautions, if needed.
Giving residents advice is a very cost effective way, but not all listen or care.
It's usually not the apartment owners who have the right to manage the keys to a apartment building. I don't know any black or flats type housing company, which doesn't manage locks and keys to the building and apartments. Only the locks within the apartment are apartment owners own business. There are housing companies where apartments are very separate without almost any common rooms. They may have adopted a system where the housing company doesn't handle locking and safety of keys at all leaving the responsibility to the apartment owners.
Talking about a normal person and using the word black, it reminded me about what associations black has had historically in local cultures. It has been and still is the color of death and mourning. Musta mies (Black man) has been a way to say death without saying death. This is probably from much older times when people with darker skin tones didn't exist in this part of the world and the knowledge of other places was very limited.
@just42tube these days a lot of "black" people would be offended by the term but it doesn't bother me. These terms have never defined me.
@@laterlife2931
It's complicated when people have justification to feel offended because of their own cultural background or historical experience and still others have different cultural backgrounds having different experiences. They can at an intellectual level understand a different way of thinking but don't have the same emotional instinct, don't emotionally connect with the reason why others feel insulted. This makes them feel that others are sensitive and irritable without real cause.
I get irritated when people call me white man.
@@laterlife2931
White is the colour of death in some other cultures. And in some context as the colour of lily flowers, it has that meaning also in Finland. As usual, some cultural details are old and have a long history and aren't originally from Finland.
This video made me look up information about the UV index in Jamaica.
I found an interesting website giving UV index figures but also much more about this topic. It included information about skin tones and how they behave and tolerate UV.
There were categories from which I could find myself. I think I also could place you in the categories.
If I estimate correctly, you are not dark or black enough to be in the highest protection category. Not being black enough, sounds like American racist jargon.
I am likely to be in the second most sensitive category. It's not really a consolidation for me to be reminded that some others can have it even worse than I without suffering from albinism.
@just42tube in my mind I think of myself as a car. Just like a dark car will retain more heat in the sun, I wonder if I retain more heat. Maybe that is why I don't like to have direct sunlight.
@@laterlife2931
So it's the heat that is bothering you.
How about sauna?
Don't you enjoy infrared while it's relaxing your muscles?
@@just42tube it's more sweating in my clothes. When I lived in Oman, I hated going out at lunchtime because it was so hot and humid. I don't mind the sauna because I am not wearing any clothes.
@@laterlife2931
We humans have some advanced abilities of which sweating might be the superpower.
@@laterlife2931
Sweating at work is fairly different from sweating e.g. at the golf course.
After playing or training you go to a sauna, take a shower and wash yourself after which you feel fresh and relaxed.
I would assume you were in a university hospital where they teach medical students, future doctors of medicine.
The language of tuition might have been here a complication, if you didn't speak finnish or swedish. You also might have not given your approval for using your case for educational purposes.
@just42tube I skipped a bit of the story. By the third day, I stopped the doctor. I called my partner and asked him to speak to him get an update of what was going on. As the doctor was speaking to my partner, I could see one of doctors biting his tongue and wanting to interrupt. The doctor finished speaking then handed back the phone and the whole group left. When I got my partner on the phone, I asked what what happening. Was I dying. He said he had no idea. The doctor was not Finnish and his Finnish was so bad he could not figure out what the diagnosis was. I cut this part out in the editing process.
@@laterlife2931
Olin toissapäivänä terveyskeskuksessa. Odottaessani vuoroani eräs lääkärin vastaanotolta poistumassa ollut potilas hieman kiihtyneenä kommentoi minulle lääkärin kielitaitoa. Hän oli ilmeisesti aikaisemmin ollut lääkärillä, jonka kielitaito oli ollut merkittävästi heikompaa, koska nyt hän kehui tämän ulkomaalaistaustaisen lääkärin puhuva hyvin ymmärrettävästi vieraasta korostukesta huolimatta.
There are significant numbers of doctors who don't have Finnish official language as their first or native language. Mostly they handle communication well, but not all. In a sensitive situation that can become really irritating and harmful.
There are also studies which reveal language problems between professionals in the medical and healthcare fields.
Obviously more language training and practice is needed.
Have you totally forgotten jamaica patois?
@bazodee2 funny you should mention it. Growing up (even in Jamaica) my mother would never allow us to speak patois. However, I was around it enough that understood it and might speak it with friends if I was drunk. Now, I have been so far removed from it that I would struggle to speak if drunk but I still understand it.
Do you see differences in the meaning of being Back, identifying with the label, in the US and other countries or is it about the same everywhere?
I have come to understand Black identity in the context of the northern American politics and ethnic divisions. But it too has divided in different ways since older economic class or religion based barriers have become less relevant.
I have noticed that Finns who you might call back seem to identify themselves more as POC, people of color. They recognize that theirs skin tones rarely actually are close to black. They don't identify with Black identity of the western Europe or Americas.
But at the same time as they feel they are Finns, and they are, they notice they have unusual characteristics compared to majoring around them.
POC is a identity, which can help finding others in similar situations. This of course includes people having Asian and other foreign characteristics.
The way I understand it, it is an identity, where you feel yourself to be of different color from the majority around you and that effects your life. But that's just my understanding.
@just42tube I don't give it much thought. I think of things in a rather (pardon the pun) black and white manner without much nuance. From that perspective, when I identify as black, in my mind it means not-white. Like most black people in the Americas, I am mix of races/ethnicities including white and Indian.
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That seems you have been trapped thinking using racist categories supporting their existence. You don't have to take any racist action, just keeping that categorization will enable that way of thinking. Given the world around us, I understand why people do it and why they don't even think it itself to be harmful.
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Since White/Black is foreign terminology for me, I have to use sources to understand what others could mean by white in this context.
Wikipedia has an article, where:
"Description of populations as "White" in reference to their skin color is occasionally found in Greco-Roman ethnography and other ancient or medieval sources, but these societies did not have any notion of a White race or pan-European identity. The term "White race" or "White people", defined by their light skin among other physical characteristics, entered the major European languages in the later seventeenth century, when the concept of a "unified White" achieved greater acceptance in Europe, in the context of racialized slavery and social status in the European colonies. Scholarship on race distinguishes the modern concept from pre-modern descriptions, which focused on physical complexion rather than the idea of race. Prior to the modern era, no European peoples regarded themselves as "White", but rather defined their race in terms of their ancestry, ethnicity, or nationality."
It seems I am old-fashioned as I don't accept that term white. Especially the connection to slavery and social status in colonies is not what I am not willing to accept. It seems that Finns were not really involved with colonialism or slave trade. There has been a period when significant numbers of Finns were captured and sold to slavery in the East and even in Persia.
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What you call white people are actually mixes of different actual human races.
By that I mean Homo sapiens and H. neanderthalensis.
More genetic inheritance from H. neanderthalensis than in human populations in Africa, but there too older mixing with H. neanderthalensis has been found, though clearly less.
Why do you want to higlight skincolours?
@fimakinen2904 I don't WANT to highlight skin colour but it is a factor in the world we live in. Coming from a majority Black Country and moving to a majority white country, you would think that was the first thing I noticed. The amazing thing to me is I NEVER noticed skin colour when I first moved to the US. It only came up years later as we entered our teenage years. People of a different race will be curious to know what it is like in Finland. This video is for them. Finnish people may want to know how other races perceive their treatment in Finland. This video is for them. Some people never think about skin colour. That is not a luxury we all have.
You dont want but you still do. I understand the purpose of this video. I still dont understand why you need to talk about races? Shouldnt you talk about cultural differences in different countries more than races? I have lived in Africa and never ever taught about my race or being only white person "mzungu* around. I dont mean to be rude but I just dont understant all this race baiting.
I hope you understand that white and black are primarily names for colours.
Using them as labels for ethnicity or as racist people do, as labels for different races of Homo Sapiens based on outdated false understanding of genetics. They are also used very much in politics as labels of ethnic identities.
If a person experiences such labels as his or her identity, then they get some meaning for those people even though more objectively such simple categories are simply nonsense. Politics and human cultures are full of nonsensical things. This is one of them.
@just42tube maybe I have internalised it but it's fine by me.