$449 Dyson Fan vs. $15 Walmart Fan: Will Dyson Lose AGAIN?!
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2023
- It's been 2 years since I uploaded a video comparing an expensive Dyson fan to a cheap Walmart fan. I think it's time for a sequel! This time, it's the Dyson AM07 tower fan vs. a $15 Mainstays Walmart fan. Will the Dyson lose again? Let's find out.
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If you stand behind a standard fan and speak into it, your voice will sound like a Dalek. I bet the Dyson can't do that.
If this one does just as good you might as well make a fan review channel
Yes, only fans.
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It didn't
Only fans
@@RazeenMujarrab ☠️
Dyson is "easier to clean" because you can't clean the dusty fan and internal pathways. I don't see how this is an advantage.
Dyson fans are so absurd they cross the line from "creative, innovative design" to "reinvented wheels for people with too much money and not enough sense".
Blade-less fans won't get as dusty as regular fans
@@user-op8fg3ny3j They get just as dusty, thing is it's inside where you can't see it. I wonder how much the output of a Dyson fan drops over time as dust builds up on the internal blades?
Same reason I open up my computer once a year to clean dust off the CPU fan blades.
@@cr10001 that's what the filters are for. Easy to vacuum out.
You know, you can add filters to your pc case too?
Did you know filters don't catch nearly all the dust? I have a fully filtered Fractal case and boy would you believe it still gets dusty inside.
Laminar vs Turbulent air flow likely the reason the Dyson was able to move more air, further.
Love this comparison series!! Do more :)
As the saying goes,
If it ain't broke, don't fix it
Thank you for this video. I just watched the video from 2 years ago and got to watch this new one after 3 days you realeased it. I just came at the right time. I liked the last comment regarding the value. I agree if you buy two or even more, not 10, but a a few more, one could get a lot of airflow at at a lower speed, hence quieter and more uniform. That if the room is big enough to host more fans.
I just have to say, I love the consistency of the NASA shirt in both review videos! Awesome review! 😆
Really cool analysis and a great improvement of test measures after the previous one. It puts things on proper perspective of what you get vs what you pay. One observation - you have not measured the watts of more expensive traditional fan. It is more of formality than information, but I would still consider it a good thing to do in a well constructed review and analysis.
Thank you for your work. For the money I will get the old style
I commented on the video 2 years ago, I was still at uni 😂. As I explained before, you are actually moving less air at a reduced speed with the Dyson design ("bladeless"). On your next video, I'd recommend you show a CFD or air flow simulation. The reason why you got more air from the Dyson at a further distance is because it covers a smaller angle therefore is more directional compared to the open fan which has a wider angle thus shorter distance
Cheap fan higher reynolds number = air spreads out and flow slows?
A few years ago I bought some Vornado fans, and they beat the pants off a couple of other fans I have, both for power efficiency and pushing air across the room. They don't oscillate, but they coooooool!
I’m wondering what effect directionality and laminar / turbulent flow have on this comparison. Laminar vs turbulent could be a factor - a laminar flow would affect how far away winds travel before succumbing to chaotic environments.
But I haven’t seen anyone mention directionality yet. Consider two light sources: a 15 watt LED lightbulb, and a 15 watt laser. They both produce 15 watts of light, but in very different ways. The lightbulb illuminates everything around it, but that light doesn’t go very far. A laser illuminates just a little dot, but can do so over hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of feet. In your fan comparison, what happens to the airflow readings if you take one step to the side? Given the Walmart fans have a large, circular design, I suspect that there will be a fall-off of speed, but I’d hypothesize it would be less fall-off than the highly directional Dyson fan. But I haven’t run tests so I don’t know for sure. Which would be the better design then? If you wanted to cool a larger space, maybe Walmart fans would be better, but if you wanted to keep specifically one spot cooler, the Dyson fam would be better?
Exactly my thoughts, but better summarized by you. Well done.
I think you can still generalize which fan has better wind speed regardless of directionality, by pitting them against each other while on their rotation settings, and calculating air flow over time for one full rotattion. Whichever fan has a lower angular range will be tested for the full range, and the other fan will be tested at that same range, and then pick like 10 unique points in space to place that anemometer. Whichever fan blew the most air across all 10 averaged air flows over time will win out.
I bought a 50$ Electrolux 3 years ago to help me through the hot summers and it's perfect. 6 speeds, timer function, swing function, and it has 5 blades instead of the cheapest 3, making it a lot quieter. It emits a nice quiet hum at night helping me to fall asleep. Basically it's just a bit more nuanced "cheapo" fan that perfectly does it's job. But paying 450$ for that thing? Get outta here.
Good job Mark man!
Great Review!!
The Navia fan you mentioned is super hard to find, and apparently made in mexico. Couldn't find it on Amazon or Walmart.
Here is an idea. How about running the Dyson versus an older vintage fan like an Emerson 77646.
Thanks for doing this
My pleasure, thank you!
Good Job…Thank You !
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It would be interesting to see the power output of the Dyson with the air purifier agains a normal fan and air purifier combo.
I was one of those nitpickers you replied to on the last one 😅 No comment on this one other than job well done!
Walmart fan has the added benefit of collecting dust. Which my OCD brain pleasures in as I meticulously clean every nook and cranny of it.
Based.
I just have one question… how did you buy your Mainstays fan in Canada for just $15 🥴?!
I'd say the dyson has better directional flow because they way its made. The typical fan has no air flow guidance. It's just a chaotic cone. If you had a short tube made of some cheap card stock or leftover cardboard to guide the air you'd see a difference in the directional/long distance strength.
The sequel 😄
Sooo can u drop the link to the fan?
You should compare the turbulence of the fan, that’s what make the bladeless fan special in the first place
I understand the fan speed tests BUT the traditional fan just pushes whatever temp the air in the room currently is. The point usually for tower fans are cooling. Can you please do some videos where you compare fans that are both meant to actually cool the air and not push it around? I really like your review style I just feel you’re missing the point for those of us who need fans that cool instead of move hot air around 😂
I don't think you really understand what the dyson fan is. It's quite literally JUST a fan. It does not cool down a room, only air conditioning units do that. You're being fooled by dyson's "cool" marketing. The dyson fan just pushes whatever temperature the air in the room is too.
the dyson fan is not an air-conditioner, does it have refrigerant? no.
Dang that's sad. People actually think fans cool the temperature of a room.
but what about the heater option? How effective are they. also in regards to the cooling, it can be noisier and louder, but is more more effective? does it cool or heat the room better than others?
fans dont cool the air ..only make it flow..However, adding mechanical action can cause some uncountable changes. so probably it will make a pressure drop in the entrance and pressure rise on the exit. it's like takining an air release the energy pass to other side and give the energy back again :D . so there is no difference in total .. but , also adding some mechanical/ kinetic energy to the air molecules means heating them while they drain their speed.also the air passing fan is cooling the motor of fan which means heating. So its simple in closed environment you drain some energy from electricity and add it to this environment /room which means ALL FANS are actually HEATERS. how much it heat ? same much you drain from electricity (Watt).
the whole point of the dyson is as a purifier the fan is just an add on some people even ask if it can be used as a fan
You forgot to measure the energy consumed by the third fan.
Also, assuming you are not using the bladeless fan at max setting all the time, it seems that it's relatively low energy consumption can justify it's price by paying for itself over time.
I found this video because I wanted to sanity check my own findings on the AM07... Anything above speed level 3 is "noisy" in my opinion, and has an unfortunate high-pitch ring to it.
Probably if you test bldc pedastal fan. It will beat Dyson fan in all areas
I’m just surprised he didn’t say fuck it and try the industrial fan I got best 50 buck noise machine I got that keeps me cool
I so want the Dyson fans to work well, for the design element alone ...I would pick the Dyson fan if it was half the price
Does the fan filter the air? It’s my understanding that I’m not buying just a fan with dyson.
He said multiple times it does not.
No but there's another video of him reviewing one with an air purifier from Dyson
I live in Ghana and I have never seen these Dyson fans in our main malls 😂😂
Thanks. You just saved me $350! (the Dyson was on sale price)
I got one of the dyson fans when they first came out and I was working someplace I could get an employee discount on them. That fan has been used for my wife to sleep with for 7-10 hours a night, over 300 days a year, for over 14 years now. Are the Dyson fans overpriced? Absolutely. But for some people the steadier noise of the Dyson can be a more effective white noise generator, and you will get a fan that you'll probably be passing down to the next generation in good working order.
just measure wind speed does not translate to airflow amount 100%. It's only measure air speed at a single point in space. Better to measure the airspeed across different points in front of the fan then multiple the cross section area by the air speed at each point to get a volume of air moved per second in order to compute airflow rate. Since an centrifugal compressor can produce air velocity significantly faster than either of these axial fans but have very airflow because it can only move a small amount of air.
But from a physic stand point, momentum scale linearly with velocity but kinetic energy scales with air velocity square. So it's 4 times as much energy to move air twice as fast. It's generally more efficient to move a lot of air slow than a small amount of air really fast, for the same volume of air moved. So if you really want to maximize cfm airflow, a ceiling fan with largest diameter will move the most amount of air using the least amount of energy.
Or amount of water being evaporated by the moving air
You aren't measuring volume of air moved
The AM07 does not connect or pair with the Dyson app a nice fancy dising just a bit dissapointed with the performance and NOT WIFI or Blootooth connection
Which one is cooler?
I think what we can conclude is that Dyson is great at making things that suck and bad at making things that blow.
Adding more of a serious note here: I love Dyson for its continued strive to innovate. On design front, they absolutely nail their aesthetics, but I feel their products suffer because of it. Despite going against the stigma surrounding Dyson as a more of an engineering focused company with many of the products I feel it’s the case of over-designed and under-engineered or as I love to quote, “Form over Function”.
Seemingly a pioneer of the bagless vacuum industry, Dyson really does stand out with their vacuums. Especially since they are continually looking to improve the design. They are on version 15 of their popular cordless vacuum.
If you want to another Dyson video, I’d recommend the cheapest vacuum you can find compared to the newest model of Dyson. The price difference is staggering as usual, but in that test Dyson might actually give you a run for the money.
Agreed! I actually own a V8 Animal. Easily the best vacuum I've ever owned.
I don’t know about that. Their blow dryer is hands down the best available to date. The imitations that are still kinda pricey do not compare. It’s lasted me far longer than all the other ones I’ve had. I’ve used it at least once every single day for the last 7 years, and it hasn’t given me any issues so far, which is amazing considering I’ve dropped it numerous times. It is the only blow dryer that dries my thick hair effectively, quickly, and without causing irreversible damage with each usage, unlike all the other $100-$200 dryers I’ve used throughout the last couple decades. Their hair curler that blows air absolutely sucks though. But their hair dryer works for all hair types. Ok the end bye bye
If Dyson wasn’t so overpriced I wouldn’t mind the annoying noise
You forgot to measure width fan movement. AKA when at a distance how far to the left and right can you without major losses of air speed.
Seems like diy dyson loops would be the answer.
Awesome video as always, though if I had any complaints its your choice of graphs for this. Especially when comparing a bunch of datapoints from the same source to each other, I think a line graph would have made it way easier to read than a bar graph.
Unfortunately I was limited in graph selection by the free software I was using. Any suggestions on cheap or free animated graph software I could use for future videos?
So I've actually been trained to do data analysis and done it in a professional setting. Line graphs are not a good idea for these kind of situations because they could be interpreted to mean there is some kind of significance at the values between each measurement. For something like this, a histogram is better as it communicates the data is discrete. @MarkSpurrell I think you did well! If you're looking for data analysis software and are willing to do something like programming, I've heard really good things about R! (it's free too)
Cool, I'll check it out, thanks!
@@MarkSpurrell You made the right choice with your chart. I've been making such things for 30+ years for broadcast television. I would have used fewer data points (high, medium, low) for a broadcast graphic, as my audience would only have a few seconds to view it, but here on ytube, that spacebar pause lets a viewer scrutinize more data points, allowing you to be more complete in your information.
any vintage fan will blow both of these out of the water
now imagine how you'll react when you use a vintage fan
My question is, does the dyson make the air cooler? Like an AC? Windspeed or sound doesnt really matter. What matters to me if it makes the room cooler.
No. It's just a fan.
It’s a fan but the way it projects the air makes you cooler
But it won’t cool a room down just makes you perfectly ok in it
Kay
I came here to know how silent the dyson is. not at max power, but at lower powers. regular fans are too strong for my taste, and too loud for me to sleep comfortably. is the dyson QUIETER than the other one at lower power outputs?
great video otherwise man, this is really convincing me to get a dyson, since I am bothered by the "minimum" settings of regular fans usually being way to strong for my taste.
CFM, cubic feet per minute, a $25.00, 20 inch box fan moves about 5000 cfm, how much does any dyson move?
Just brought a Walmart fan $28 and change with tax in 2024.
Have you ever tested if air multiplier technology (bladeless design or whatever) somehow provides air flow with relatively lower temperatures?
By the way, the video is perfect - congrats.
fans dont cool the air ..only make it flow..However, adding mechanical action can cause some uncountable changes. so probably it will make a pressure drop in the entrance and pressure rise on the exit. it's like takining an air release the energy pass to other side and give the energy back again :D . so there is no difference in total .. but , also adding some mechanical/ kinetic energy to the air molecules means heating them while they drain their speed.also the air passing fan is cooling the motor of fan which means heating. So its simple in closed environment you drain some energy from electricity and add it to this environment /room which means ALL FANS are actually HEATERS. how much it heat ? same much you drain from electricity (Watt).
didnt you post this video some time ago? I feel like I've seen this already...
Dyson dunked on again
So basically an Air Conditioner that goes for 300€ (without installation) is much more effective than this overpriced dyson fan.
And also, dyson fan would have been cheaper if it was without the air filtering system and the trademarked unique design
Dyson is like Bose.. sold solely based on flashy demos and brand recognition.
You measured mph/hr or km/hr or m/s, but what is the range vertically or horizontally that they produced those numbers? If the Walmart fan only produces that speed at its center and the Dyson produces that speed from top to bottom being significantly larger then it’s apples to oranges.
volume or air moved is the key you really aren't measuring...but I'm definitely not saying by the dyson for that amount
I want that stand fan (jk)
Made in China vs Made in China fan....
Do one comparison: Point the fan (both of them) for a whole working day directly to your face and run it at the lowest speed (dyson is level 1). Watch your eyes a day later. No need. to say additional words here. The Dyson Airflow is absolutely smooth. You can count on that, that i dont like to speed 500+ bucks for a fan, but i never regret it to chose the dyson
Yeah, I'm not a ... big fan of the Dyson fan.
Buy 10 cheap fans
Zenfone 10 video....?
Your review was pointless. The Dyson unit is not just a fan, it’s a cooling fan. Does it do a good job of dropping the temp in a room? A fan will move around warm air, but will not cool a room.
...duh. It's literally just a fan. There's no air conditioning or cooling component in it whatsoever. Sounds like Dyson fooled another person with their shady marketing...
@@MarkSpurrell I just wish the review would have mentioned that. I found that out via another review. I would have preferred this review point it out. The only thing that would make the Dyson worth the money is if it cooled. Since it doesn’t why even do a comparison with a cheap fan? Even if the Dyson did a better job, who would spend hundreds of dollars more just a for a little better cooling? Thus, a pointless review.
@@gregdover1142 a fan by itself is incapable of concentrating and moving heat energy out of the living space
@@MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321 I am not sure what the point is. I know that, but I thought the Dyson had components that actually cooled a room. I found out via another review that the Dyson’s are a scam and are nothing more than a fan. I was just saying that I wished this review actually stated that the Dyson’s are just fans and don’t actually cool. That’s all.
@@MrBlackmidi1234567890987654321Sure it can. Step 1) close all your windows but one. Step two: go to the opposite side of your home and open a window there. Step 3) turn on the fan pointing toward one of the windows about 2-3 ft. from it.
It will replace the hot air inside with nice cool air outside. Moves the heat right out! Been doing this for years.
Lol if you used a branded traditional fan like kdk or Mitsubishi that will beat the crappy dyson as this fans even the basic ones moves air fast n strong. N yes they cost more than regular traditional fans but ngl they are the ones that should be used to compare against dyson