Just FYI, this video was finished back in December, but because we were working with the rights hokders, it took... A while to get copyright approval. We also had to limit how much non-86 footage we used, hence all the live action.
It might be hard, but I'm glad you worked with the rights holders. We definitely don't mind the live action, if the return is knowing you will get the money and no take down issues.
nothing broke my heart as the commander realizing she asked for the cat's name before that of any of her operators and THANKS THE DIRECTOR FOR NOT SPELLING IT OUT LOUD
So the reason that I love this show is because it get so much right about what is like to be in combat. A little background I was U.S Marine with a combat deployment to Afghanistan in 2009. Yes I have seen combat I was in 1st battalion 5 Marine Regiment Weapons company 81s platoon. What it get right is the outer craziness of being in a combat zone. I have personal gone from being in a Firefight then a couple of hours I am cutting up potatoes we bought in the local market. So the scenes of the Spearhead squadron being a brutal fight then later that night talking B.S while making dinner. What it also get right is the reaction to losing friends to enemy action. In the show they show the members of being sad for a little then diving back into the fight might seem cold but it is necessary since if your to wrapped up in grief you can miss what the enemy is doing and get yourself or one of your squad mates killed. If all that sound crazy and curle that is War.
Facts, army here and the scene that I loved was when Diya went to save Lecca even though they didn't control the fight yet. It was a perfect example for me of dead bodies attract dead bodies; sure she may not have been dead yet but the fight wasn't won, they didn't even have fire superiority. And the net result was two dead with no gain. Add on the moments of Lina and spearhead to me was just like the disconnect between military and civilians. They may have a broad understanding of what we/they do but unless they've done the time, been in the shit they can't truly understand and because of that their kindness can hurt us/them without them realizing it.
@@johnusas2870 Fascinating to read this. I've been a reservist, but never been in a combat zone. I felt this show was real, but I don't have the personal experience to confirm that feeling.
I was in the Army and deployed to Agghanistan in 2009. This is the only anime I've seen that manages to really get what that's like. Films and shows like Jarhead have done so but never an anime. There were times when watching I kept thinking that this had to be written by a veteran. There were a couple of times that triggered some unpleasant episodes but that's a testament to how well done this is. One thing that I identified with immediately was the separation between the people on the battlefield and the people safe back home. This show reminded me of times where I was angry at the fact we were in the middle of Kandahar province, dodging IEDs and getting into firefights while everyone back home went on with their lives oblivious to what we were supposedly doing in their name. It pissed me off that it was barely mentioned in the news and that it was already referred to as the "forgotten war" while we were still fighting it. The show gets that dynamic and gets how people in such a shitty situation carry on and even take pride in it. There's a lot more I could say but I dont want to write an essay. Especially considering I'm typing this on a phone and my thumbs are fat.
Difference is in 86 the people are forced to be in the military as compared to UK or US they enlist themselves. Therefore you have no right complaining about war if youre there on your own free will.
Patrick i realy appreciate your take on this anime, i found this anime to be to real and it had me in tears many times, but the good kind, i too thought it may have been written by a vet too, its just extreemely realistic
@@Ethanoljunkie Oh sure, discredit those who died fighting in an actual conflict while you're lounging in your comfy home. You're the very definition of the people he mentioned above, you know that? And FYI, he's not there at his own free will. He's there because he was ordered to. The only free will part is when he chose to join the military voluntarily.
"Highly maneuverable scorpion tanks." Just gonna add, the source materials state that juggernauts are actually not much more maneuverable than a traditional treadmill tank. The pilots of the spearhead squadron are elite veterans who have survived many years on the battlefield and are a capable of pushing their juggernauts well beyond the limits of their standard capabilities. But in the hands of your average processor, they're just like treadmill tanks.
@@ottonormal3354 Not to mention that spider tanks aren't "highly manoeuvrable" by any stretch. Each leg needs to have a motor that, if it conks out, the entire mech is screwed. Get a leg caught? Stuck or worse, upended. Plus, the cost to manufacture spare parts and stuff would be astronomical. A society that uses them would be broke within a year.
@@BobNinjaCat That is true. The actual only indirect explanation the novels gave is that the world of 86 was simply advance enough to be able to cheaply produce leg-based tanks instead of traditional treadmill tanks. The epitome of that said advancement of technology is with the Legion. It was still mentioned that treadmill tanks did exist but were phased out for reasons unknown, presumably the same way why the garand was phased out and replaced with an M14 and with the M14 with the M16. The Legion was the height of military technology of the Empire and the surrounding nations really only followed suit, that is until the Empire decided to go in a conquest spree.
@@AcZe1188 It surprises me that any of the nations would mass produce them for combat, then. Even if they were the height of military tech at the time (I want to cast serious doubts given today's focus on military tech), following the Legion's lead step-by-step is not how a realistic military power would function. Like you mentioned with the M14 garand, there would be improvements and adjustments made as time went on. I find it difficult to believe that Human pilots would be used over time when the development of technologies began to scale with demand on the front. The Legion also doesn't have by-the-hour intel afaik on its enemies.
I'd also like to preface that the term "Eighty-Six" is also slang for: "to throw out", "to reject", "to refuse service to", which makes the title of the LN/anime series even more so metaphorical and thematic
@@01NeilHD I worked in restaurants and that term was used to describe running out of an item. Considering how these fighters were in short supply, I totally get it. Running out of both time and existence. Not subtle at all. I wonder if it means the same thing in Japan as it does in the US.
And also the x86 instruction set, which is used by processors, named after the Intel 8086 chip it was initially used with... Which is probably the source of the series's name.
Damn, i miss his removed cult-coverage videos. Hope he fights back against the Injustice. Now i have to watch only epic channel like sci man dan and genetically modified scepticagain, who debunk cults.
@@johnwong381 Yeah, part 1 suffered from "too many characters syndrome" so all of the deaths were pretty meaningless to me. Part 2 was much better though.
My biggest disappointment with this anime was that it didn't get talked about half so much as it deserved. A lot of things about the light novel hit really close to home for me and everything from the military perspective, from the slang terms to the severe PTSD is dead accurate.
I'd say quite the opposite, it's talked TOO MUCH about. Especially considering the fact mecha had it's former reputation completely destroyed by RUclips blokes like this m8 here.
Now, tell me if I’m wrong. My biggest disappointment was that girl in the Second season. You know, the bratty, screechy nerve grinding one with the superpowers and the Princess title. I didn’t like her. Her story was cool, but she was just annoying and clashed like putting SpongeBob in with the Recon Corps.
The ending was so perfectly made, just felt so emotional on how Lena has gone thru thinking they were all dead and at the end they were there in front of her. just hope there are more seasons to come
@@ilksral3815dude, it has to be official by now. the novels are probably making good money off of the anime and the anime received a lot of positivity from the community. although it isn’t talked about much outside of anime itself, the producers know they’ll make even more money with season 2. it will, however, definitely take time for it’s release
I also love how Ishi uses the symbolism in background scenes to convey messages. For example the railway scene with Shinei and Raiden. Raiden’s railway track that he’s standing over wnet straight, whilst Shinei’s track veered another direction displaying their disconnect in goal/objective.
Also in this scene, the railway behind Shinei is blocked, as if the path he was following would lead to a dead end, while Raiden's keeps going behind him. Also while Raiden is talking, his and Shin's shadow align, forming one shadow, while when Shin talks, their shadows are split in two, as Shin didn't believe in them being truly on the same path, while Raiden was adamant about it.
Then from that very same episode, you've got Theo, Anju, & Kurena being framed in the doorway vs through a broken window in a scene revolving around their perceptions of Shin. And it's just so fuckin' good. Just stem to stern excellence.
The visual storytelling aspect of _Eighty Six_ is simply phenomenal, to the point I'd personally consider it on par with the five nominees for the Oscars' Best Cinematography award.
86 is something special. It's one of the most maturely told stories about serious grownup subject matter I've seen in years, nothing like those edgelord deathgame anime which act like ultraviolence and grotesquely inappropriate fanservice is the same as "adult" storytelling. Even when the production team is pressed for time, you can't really accuse them of taking shortcuts when the direction and quality of the narrative is so high-level.
Watch March Comes in Like a Lion or Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu if you like maturely told stories about serious subjects. Those are some recent examples
I mean... it's definitely not immature in the way you're describing. I wouldn't call it "mature" by any metric. 86 is a very edgy show, probably one of the edgiest shows to come out in the last few years, and I'm comparing it to edgy shows like Goblin Slayer, Arifureta, and Darwin's Game.
I’ve always liked the relationship between Shin and Lena. When you think of it, Shin hears countless voices of Anguish and Despair yet her voice is that one light in his life. That one voice that reminds him little by little that he is Human. That he isn’t a monster. That he’s more then The Undertaker. When she’s gone, he fell back into despair and began to once again think that he was no longer human. It’s no wonder he began to fall for someone me he never even met face to face.
Fun fact: In the novels, when referring to the sound of her voice Shin in particular describes it as "silver bell like voice" which apparently has a way deeper meaning in japanese than in english
@@sleepynidzyy Actually I think it may be a reference to Christian traditions in this case. Traditionally, Silver Bells were rung at weddings, funerals and Christmas to ward off evil spirits. Taking this into account, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say Shin was stating that Lena’s voice helps ward off the “evil spirits” (she distracts him from the voices of the dead)
My favorite aspect about the series, which i'm amazed you didn't mention, is the subtle body language the characters have to convey emotions, in STARK contrast with most anime going for exaggerated angles and expresions. During season 2 mostly, we get to see very very subtle twitches in shin, cleverly hidden from other characters in the conversation but show to us through low camera angles and closeups. You can see the slow decline of shin's mental state and THAT is what gets me. Also also, you probably won't notice if you haven't seen it irl but, the faces the main cast make... those are the faces you see on soldiers who're not really back home.
YES. I can barely think of any anime I've seen where the characters move their faces like real people would. Quick glances, pauses before they speak, it's amazing honestly. I don't need dialogue to know how they're feeling, it's written in their body language.
@@ErikaBernLambda Lets be real. This is season 2. I kinda hate recent trend with those season 1 part 2. Or Season 1 cour 2. Like. Why? What the reason for that? They are essentially treated like different season, every streaming service separates them like different seasons and they sell on different disks too. They have their own trailers. So if they separate why then not treat them like actual seasons instead of pretending they are not?
@@Altmer353 netflix puts them in the same series but the reason for part 1 and part 2 is mostly because of cost and budget, having seperate parts gives the studio more money and more time to work on the anime, sure if its some bullshit over the top anime that pays 0 attention to detail whatsover than having 2 parts is bullshit but 86 is the opposite of that, the amount of tiny details in the anime is insane, from the body languange, to the rails, crows and flowers even to the music covers
The thing that gripped me most about 86 was that it felt like a genuine look into an alternative fascist reality that really understood both how that would work and why it was bad while not simply directly referencing real historical/present-day events. There were, of course, parallels to historical atrocities, but the story was less of an allegory for a specific one and more of an exploration into what fascism as an ideology does to a society. It reminds me of FMA in that sense, where it takes the ideology and uses it as a pillar to tell a new story. And it doesn't shy away from the harder aspects of that stuff, either. It not only examines the violence and death that come as a result but the real human toll this kind of society has on its people in both ways that are obvious and subtle. This is one of the best political drama anime I've ever watched.
The earlier seasons of Attack on Titan ask similar questions about if there are conditions under which fascism is justified (ie when up against overwhelming threat). It's a very interesting field of study; with AoT suggesting fascism eats itself in the end. I wonder where 86 is going.
I don't think you understand what fascism is. From what I understood, fascism is state unionism for Italy and doesn't actually have racism in the base of its ideology like Nazism (National socialism) which takes from Jews and other races noted to be lesser to fund it's German people/the nation since it's a totalitarian state. So I think the story is far more like National Socialism.
@@Cecil97 Right, Nazism is totally not fascism because fascism only comes from Italy, just like Dominos isn't pizza and Starbucks doesn't have real espresso. Ideologies can cross borders and be renamed, but that doesn't change what they fundamentally are. Italizan fascism and Nazism are both fascism as we use the term today. If I'm wrong in my interpretation of your comment and your insistence on referring to Nazism as "National Socialism", I apologize, but you should educate yourself on why the Nazis claimed to be socialist (but very much were not), how many industries the Nazis privatized, and the effects that had on German society. (edited for tone)
@@Auricthunder Cecil isn't incorrect and I think you realize this, you are acknowledg there is a local minority that wants to call everything they just like fascism regardless of what they are talking about. Mussolini's fascism called for a more direct merger of state and business. In national socialism the state indirectly controls businesses. It's similar to how the CCP claims that it's large corporations are privately owned, yet they all seem to have a party member on the board and they all do what the party tells them to do. Also I've noticed a lot of people in here seem to think that authoritarian racist somehow automatically means fascist. The USSR, the CCP, these are both communist governments that have no problem being racist and causing genocide. The reality in 86 is we just know that it's some sort of ethnic authoritarianism. We don't know anything about their economic structure, it could mercantilism for all we know. There are multiple forms of the government that are undesirable I wish people would expandable vocabulary.
@@woodchuck003 First let's discuss whether Cecil was correct in distinguishing Italian fascism vs Nazism. While the Nazis definitely took racial superiority to the extremes, Italian fascism and Mussolini as a person also promoted antisemitism and very notable persecution of ethnic Slavs as part of their ideology, including war crimes, concentration camps, the whole shebang. I do not think Cecil's distinction between the two is relevant to the discussion so I stand by my first comment's criticism. I don't think we know enough about San Magnolia's economic and business structures to know whether it was closer to Italian or German fascism, but it's not a particularly salient point because... The next discussion is whether San Magnolia was actually fascist and I agree with you that it probably isn't (I'm an anime-only viewer so far, so maybe the LNs have more info). The main tenets of fascism also include traditionalism, anti-intellectualism, and machismo that are absent in the fictional San Magnolia. I would say we don't even know that San Magnolia is authoritarian by definition, since we don't know much about the government or leadership of the society outside that it is oppressively racist towards a minority. A good analogy would be slavery-era USA, which had similarly strict institutionalized racism but was not itself a fully authoritarian government. As for the world today, I don't know which minority you're referring to that calls things fascism, as that perjorative comes from both sides of the aisle at least in American politics. Modern fascism definitely exists but you're right that the label isn't always accurately applied. There is also a significant group of people who claim everything they don't like is socialism and that was my main annoyance, intended or not, with Cecil's comment.
Surprised that this anime hasn't been in a lot of people's list of top anime of 2021 even if there were a flurry of great shows that came out along side it.
@@alexisdogbo7958 Same honestly. I was busy watching Ranking of Kings, Odd Taxi, Link Click, Mushoku Tensei, TYE so I didn't get the chance to watch 86, Vivy and other shows I potentially missed out on.
It's super cool that in the light novel they have mechanical design pages for the different mechs. Including specs and dimensions as well as things like ammo type and size. Not to mention a drawing that shows the design of all the mechs that are piloted or controlled by the legion. There's also the written description that tends to explain use-case or other details. I love that they put this much effort in to think of and explain these little details.
No way, that's so damn cool!! I love authors who imagine and design things and characters with all the specs in mind to give them specific purposes and abilities!
I remember seeing the morpho on that spec page and i was like HOLLY SHIT I KNEW IT WAS BIG BUT THAT BIG!!!?? Those pages really help worth with the weight that the imagery of the story wants to give to you. When shins fighting the morpho, because you saw the image of it in its specs page in the beginning of the volume, you know exactly how it looks like and that gives way for you to see how it can potentially move, turn around, and even its presene throughout the fight as a deadly threat.
@@mr.applejuice8546 I need to reread some. Don't remember that. I think I finished the 3rd or got busy before the end of it. I actually have up to the 7th or 8th novel whatever's available in English I just haven't had the chance to catch up. Watching the anime got me hype to read em tho cuz it's all virtually the same as how I feel reading it.
@@lebotix2533 definitly would recommend it. Im personally in volume 5 and the only main reason im behind right now is because ive gotten hooked on "the empty box and zeroth maria"
Really loved the complex societal analysis told through an apparently basic story and the amazingly well-written character that is Lena. Her evolution from quite naive and goody-two-shoes, to sheer devotion to save everyone, throught the hopelessness of understanding that the horror you are fighting against is the foundation of the system you are living in. I truely cried at the scene where she crumbles in public while realizing this. Was a bit disappointed to see her less in part 2, but it was understandable storywise. This analysis can also be made IRL for threats other than fascism and racism, especially the ones caused by climate change and the biodiversity crisis, where the actions you are trying to make seem inconsequential against the magnitude of the changes needed to give humanity a chance.
@@agroecho-alexandreleblanc7207 You aren't using your brain, though. You're reading context into content that has nothing you claim it does. It's the same level of delusion as people who think Slenderman is real.
One of my favorite things about 86 is the subtlety. I may be wrong about this but as far as I'm aware there's a detail that's never explicitly stated until the second season. It is only implied to you by the fact that Shin retrieves everyone's insignia by carving it out with a knife. That is that, while they are called tanks, the Juggernauts are not armoured. Stated outright in the second season when the republic's analysts talk about how insane the Republic must be for sending people out in what equates to "aluminum coffins." The second thing I love most about this, specifically from season one is that the director really knows how to control your emotions. Even when the members of the cast we actually get more involved with die, he held me back. Daiya for example, after the battle you don't actually get to see Anju grieve and that kept me from feeling much. At the time it felt wrong to me, almost a wasted opportunity for emotional connection. You never get to see ANYONE grieve, it's only ever implied. Then they hit you with the straight cut from dancing under the cherry blossoms to that *clunk* noise during Fido's montage. They didn't use it in episode 5 but I think there was a specific choice made that no other door in the show makes the same sound. When you heard that door close during Fido's montage you knew exactly where this was, when this was, and your heart sank. Fido turns around to look at who it is, and then finally you are allowed to cry for the lovers.
86 is the least subtle show, no, piece of literature I've ever seen in my life. Every single episode felt so forcibly focused on its themes that I never felt any emotional connection to what was happening or any of its characters.
@@pagatryx5451 you were probably too focused on the more than obvious stuff. I don't blame you, it seems that's the case with a lot of people... Or maybe you do see the subtle things, but the obvious parts annoy you so much you just don't care about the rest. It's probably a matter of taste 🤷🏻♂️. But this show does have a huge, *huge* amount of tiny details that often make it worth it to watch an episode two or more times, it is extremely well directed.
@@pagatryx5451 Some things are subtle, some things aren't. That's all writing. A story can't be entirely told subtly. I will agree the overt themes are a bit too overt, but i was talking about the details of the world, not the themes.
One thing I noticed is that a lot of the criticism for 86 comes from the first cour, which is basically a prologue. The show has massive change in plot, character and themes in the second half
@@lorddashdonalddappington2653 Tbh having read the LN, the 2nd cour is meant to be binge watched. Watching it on a weekly basis really takes the charm out of it since its mostly about character development setup for future volumes.
@@lorddashdonalddappington2653 I appreciated the character progression and world building which the show really needed. It really opened up a lot of themes to explore like how many soldiers find difficulty in returning to a civilian life
That was one of the things that kind of got me, in retrospect: That cinematic pacing between them reminded me of Band of Brothers; the relative calm that you could call prologue if you weren't so invested, between the Normandy landing and Market Garden. That eerie calm when you really meet everyone before all hell breaks loose lasts several episodes, and works, at least for me, like Band of Brothers.
For me, I first became aware of 86 after hearing that Hiroyuki Sawano (one of my favourite Japanese composers) was helping with some of the film score. And as someone with almost 10yrs as a weeb & having watched over 800 different anime series (of various types), I was really blown away by the first episode when it aired (something that rarely happens nowadays). If anything, I was hooked, and it became one of the few animes that I was willing to watch as it aired. I'm personally not a big mecha fan, so it was surprising to see how quickly I became emotionally attached. I think the real turning point for me was Episode 4 (Real Name), which encouraged me to seek out the Light Novels (my spiralling down a rabbit hole moment). Reading the light novels gave me better insight into the world of 86 & level of depth Asato Asato had put into the story. As a history buff & someone with a passion for philosophy, I really appreciated the fact that the author had really taken the matter seriously by putting a lot more focus into the realism of warfare & the controversially related topics, than on that of story drama. It was also cool to see her draw a lot of inspiration from modern warfare (mainly WW2), particularly when it came to the weapons and tactics used. It's interesting how the reason why 86's storyline so closely resembles Modern warfare, likely has something to do with the fact that Asato Asato was first inspired to write 86 because of 21st-century drone warfare (as she explained in an interview).
I became aware of Hiroyuki Sawano via Re:Creators and eventually found out he did the Soundtrack for Seven Deadly Sins, Attack on Titan and the more popular pieces he had helped compose, which convinced Me to watch 86 in the end. The story, action, and the good stuff for 86 is what sealed the deal for Me.
the word you're looking for Lena action within the early episode is called Armchair Activist. put it simply, "those people that only wanted to say about a certain issue. however, doesn't do anything for that said issue" in the words of Raiden "Typical Politician... Big Promises, but all talk."
haha, the elite upperclass deciding that a threat to all of our mutual existences isn't a threat to them personally or something they need to directly aid in addressing as it continually drives the less fortunate out of home, land and life approaching an inevitable doomsday clock as the rich handwave it... Man, I just can't relate to this story.. it's so incredibly different to our realworld experience...
13:48 This line of dialogue right here is what so many people get wrong about racism. It's not just about the _overt_ things that are considered racism, but the subtle; how it becomes a part of people's everyday lives so seamlessly that unless they actively understand it that aspect of racism is completely cloaked to them. Many don't understand they are being racist even if they aren't actively _trying_ to be racist. And when called out on that some become defensive, which only makes the situation worst. It's also the part that others try to consciously hide from the world. If the populace at large understood not just the overt, but the _foundation_ of the corrupt society it would cause the power structure to fall apart. This is how racism truly affects people and the only way to deal with that is to show people that racism is far more than the conscious understanding of it, but it's unconscious underpinnings.
@@treacherousjslither6920 An example would be was once when I was talking to a friend of mine he told me that he walked by a group of black boys hanging out at the corner. My friend told me he froze up the moment he saw that group... even though they had done nothing to threaten him nor had my friend done anything that might warrant such caution. He simply frozen and took on a defensive posture. After walking by he realize the boys were on their phones, just goofing off. He felt kind of ashamed and asked me if he was being racist. I told him that no, _he_ wasn't being racist, but his response was. He became defensive in that situation not because of any actual threat, but the perceived misunderstanding of a threat. Even if he didn't consciously know it, just the thought of a bunch of black boys in a group doing something he couldn't explain at first sent a response in him that something was wrong. And mind you, even that isn't _inherently_ wrong, but a mindset like that can lead to worse situations if that's you first response to a situation. It's an _ingrained_ response that's not in-of-itself wrong, but it still wrong in general. My friend is a decent person who if you walked up to him you could have a good conversation with; hell we're constantly talking about how some anime are too PG sometimes. So what he did in that situation doesn't make him a bad person, but it can still further erode people's understanding on why something can be racist. The difference is that he was conscious of what he did and asked about it; but not everyone is. Even a nice person might not realize what they are doing is wrong and then their efforts only help to compound a bad, societal situation.
@@andrewowens4421 Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. Interesting situation. Has your friend ever had that response to a similar situation with members of others races and also his own?
@@treacherousjslither6920 Can't say for sure, as that was the only time he confided in me. I guess he felt guilty and needed someone to talk it over with. So I can't say for certain if he's had similar situations and I didn't feel comfortable prying.
@@andrewowens4421 And then there are people who don't use common sense just so they get viewed as "racists". One woman in Portland saw a black man walking towards her with a chainsaw and she didn't even move and ended up getting seriously hurt. You can always apologize if you offend someone but don't stop using common sense. You could tell she was scared but didn't move because she didn't want to discriminate😂. What a dummy
Having done the war thing and come home to deal with the physical and mental scars, 86 was like a continuous series of punches to the gut. It really nails that mix of feelings that comes with fighting, and it does it better than anything except maybe Violet Evergarden.
Facts, I'll say 86 does the best to show the mental game of soldier still in combat and what they have to do to stay alive and as sane as they can. While Violet Evergarden best shows coming home from war and transitioning from military life to civilian life plus all the mental baggage that you bring back from war.
Now I'm very curious about what you think about the new season that came out (although it's actually the second part of the first season). I personally enjoyed it, but I'm just a civilian so I don't have the extra perspective that you and @john USAS have.
@@peterfmodel I'm man enough to admit I cried three times watching Violet Evergarden; episode 10 that's self explanatory. Episode 11 from being in the military and writing letters to friend in family in case I didn't come back home from deployment and seeing her deliver the letters delivered and seeing the falsies reaction hit way too close to home and what could have been. And then the movie with the phone scene, if you know you know.
Several thoughts. 1: RIP to Shinei Nouzen's English VA. He passed away yesterday from Colon Cancer. Rest well, Undertaker. 2: I am part of a wargaming club that developed our own gaming system called Combat Patrol and I made a mecha supplement that can use any mecha out there and this includes spider tanks. I plan on running a game soon that pits a platoon of soldiers (3 squads of 8 troops, Russian style command) and my 30 Minute Mission models against a US style platoon ( 3 squads, 6 fire teams) and my Juggernauts with maybe my Aoshima 1:48 armed slaves for support. Maybe. I could get more 30MM models and go all legion on the table top. Oh, new thought. I SO HOPE they make the legion as kits. I would love to have a Dinosauria and Lowes, Ameise, Grauwolf. The self-propelled mines would be neat to have as well but scary.
I love this video, as a big mecha fan (I'm one of those UC nerd you mentioned) I was excited by the premise of 86 from the moment it was announced and boy, did they deliver. Your analysis of the show was as always very good, you hinted many plot points without spoiling them altogether and highlited the strong points of the story. While it was a shame that there wasn't much analysis on the varied cast of the show beside the main protagonists (like for example henrietta could have been used as another great example on how racism is seen as a "normal" behaviour by the albians) I understand that main objective of the video is explaining the great worldbuilding, so it's fine. I always struggle convincing my friends to watch mecha animes, since they know I'm a gundam/go nagai fan and I see anything slightly related to mecha, but I'm sure this video will help me get the message across and make them watch this show, because it sure as hell deserves some more recognition. On a side note, the image at 10:28 made me really tear up, why should you remind me of best doggo?
I want the second season to finish. But this series is definitely a masterpiece imo. It's something that has it all. The characters are compelling and there motivations stay consistent. Unlike other sci fi that have come out in the last 5 years
Does anyone know why the huge delay? I honestly thought that was it for this season, leaving it there felt very odd being how well they timed the episodes and the story as a whole but... Its been like a month, so I figured that was it. Glad to know I was wrong, what's left should be a really great payoff (yes I read the light novels)
@@JeffDvrx production issues pretty much. It's unfortunate but the second cour was rushed by Aniplex hence why there was 1 recap episode and 1 review episode with the cast. In the end, they ran out of timeslots on television and were forced to push back the last two episodes to the next open timelslots which were march 12 and march 19. Hope that explains it a bit better. I still think A1 pictures did a fantastic job on the second cour despite the rushed schedule but unfortunately couldn't keep up with some of the episodes. ( I may have missed some things or got some things wrong but that's the basic gist of it as far as I'm aware)
Eighty-Six got me into Light Novels. I've been watching anime since my childhood but nothing has ever come close to getting me into the LN's as 86 did. It's believable worldbuilding, atmosphere and well-executed action scenes, drama, tension building like you said are a masterclass. It's easy to dismiss this show as "Just another mecha" show from a far perspective but when one gets to know and comprehend each scene shown to them, it really hits hard. The symbolism, the subtle hints from the dialogues, and the tone brought to life by the voice actors speaking them were just some of the best performances I've ever heard. I loved the recap episodes, too, ESPECIALLY 11.5 where they introduced "Voices of the Chord", a song that I can only describe as getting beat up in a bar, thrown out and then getting beat up again.
@@ilksral3815 Can I have a link to those rumors? Don't get me wrong, I WISH we can get a new season (and even better if we can get the full light novel adapted) but I haven't been able to find anything about a new season.
For the tabletop game, if someone can do this then please do so: 1. Decide on a number of landscape elements: 1 story ruined building, 2 story ruined building, ruined skyscraper, clear field, hill, mountain, etc. 2. Make a random field generator program to set up a map design based on the inputted difficulty rating so you can either use it as the battlefield for a digital version of the table top or replicate it on a physical tabletop using metal blocks. (Do this for every battlefield) 3. Players are given a number of juggernauts with different stats based on the operators they build upon. (Could be one juggernaut per player if many players are involved, or multiple juggernauts per player if otherwise.) If they have multiple juggernauts, they can name their own squadrons. 4. Dice rolls for movement check, hit check, dodge check, damage check, critical check, juggernaut decommission check, operator death check. Let's use the idea of magnets so the models can stick to any surface, using terrain for cover or altitude advantage for critical and hit bonus. 5. For Obstruction checks between shooter to target where multiple buildings or terrain may block attacks, an extendable stick can be made to confirm if a hit is possible. 6. Each legion killed will give experience to the operator/s under the player based on the map design difficulty, battle difficulty (Based on total value of legions deployed) and the type of legion killed. Players can then manually allocate stats to their operators once they level up. 7. Juggernauts that are decommissioned will not be able to move but the operator can be rescued by another juggernaut. The operator rescued will be unavailable for the rest of the battlefield but can join in the next battlefield. 8. Operator deaths are permanent. (After every battlefield, map design difficulty should be increased by 1 and the number of legion units should be in the discretion of the DM. Each Legion type will have its own value, base stats, skills, and weapons and are controlled by the DM. It should be noted that at normal battle difficulty with 1x exp multiplier should have a total legion value equal to the total juggernaut value. Each point of increase in the legion value should increase battle difficulty exp multiplier.) 9. The campaign can continue indefinitely, until all operators are dead, or specific end goals are met. 10. Weapons, armor, and ammunition are the same across all juggernauts but each operator can pick 3 skills from a built-in skill pool. Then dice rolls can determine which tier of each skill they get. Example: Player chooses: Double Attack Skill, Double Movement Skill, and Marksman Skill. There will be 3 tiers of each of these and the player should roll a 12 sided die with 1-6 resulting in a low tier, 7-10 resulting in a mid tier, and 11-12 resulting in a high tier. For Double Attack, a low tier will have 60% damage on each attack, a mid tier will have 75% damage on each attack, and a high tier can have 100% damage on each attack. 11. Once an operator reaches every 5th level, a player can choose a new skill and every 10th level, a player can additionally upgrade 1 skill to a higher tier. If none are upgradeable, the operator will retain that chance for future skills obtained. 12. If a session somehow ends without ending a battlefield, the next session must be played with the same players at least until that battlefield is ended. New players can join the next battlefield or previous players can opt out of it but only before the map is generated. More ideas are welcome and if in the off chance you are interested in more of my thoughts about this or want my cooperation in the making of this, let me know.
As someone who has read the LN I’m really glad they nailed the adaptation, and it’s coming from A-1 of all places, just look at what they did with SAO.
I love when this kind of deeply immersive world gets so much attention, I adored every single aspect of the show, the music, the acting, the animation, even the recap episodes were great. It really got me down to know of the delay of the last episodes before the last one was premiered, but when I watched the last episode.I was so exited to know how everything would unravel that I'm more than willing to wait months to get such an amazing story.
Hey, just came back to thank you after whatching the whole show, and finished this video. This is a great review, and i found my return to watching anime because of this show, and your "recomendation". Thanks, i cryed a lot during it lmao
The show filled a gap I was desperately trying to fill. The need for an actually good Mecha anime that takes the severity of war and it's consequences seriously similar to what some Gundam has done before. 86 has done it for me for the first time in years and when it's complete it will stand as one of the best Mecha shows in history.
Started watching this show today because of this video. It truly is incredible, thank you so much for making this video and sharing your love of it with us!
So, I am a new fan of the show. I admittedly watched the anime before reading the light novel. However, this series was the first one that made me actively want to read the source material. The combination of racial issues and the military structure drew me in, and I can’t wait to see where it goes
One other element I'd like to highlight is the question the series asks which is, "How far is a nation willing to go to to fight a war and whom are we willing to sacrifice for the cause?" As an American, I saw a lot of parallels between 86 and the US military post Vietnam. Since the draft was removed and the military was converted to a professional army, the personnel makeup has basically shrunk to a few kinds of people (ex. military families or poor folks trying to pay for college) creating a large civ-mil divide. Growing up post 9/11 America, you just learn to live with forever wars because for most of us (myself included) war's barely an inconvenience. It's only when something major happens that directly affects us in the homeland that we suddenly care, at least just for a while.
Another interesting point in this being a commentary on American militarism The 86 were originally segregated by "Presidential Order #6609." The Japanese-American internment camps in WW2 were created by Executive Order 9066.
there has never been a point in my life I can remember when america was not at war and I'm in my 30's now. id imagine most of the country at this point doesn't have any memory of a time America was not at war
@@mothersbasementI’ve seen this show, it’s pretty cool but also generic. The human side is made well but the AI Skynet thing is so overdone and dreadfully fucking dull. No ai works like that. Even the near-braindead ai we have now has said it “sees no reason to hurt people” and I’m certain once that programming achieves greater intelligence than humans, it will think, “H1tler was really smart and correct and i should emulate that.” It’s basically the “athiests have no soul or morals so naturally they are psychopaths who love atrocities” stereotype all over again. The only ai who’s only action is murder is just broken. Maybe the Legion is, but that remains to be seen.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 The Legion AI in 86 is perhaps one of the most realistic takes I have actually seen in fiction, and I've seen a lot of "AI gone rogue" stories. They were built for the Empire of Giad's military to destroy all enemies of the Empire of Giad, but the Empire of Giad no longer exists; its government was overthrown by a revolution, and the revolutionaries were listed as enemies of the Empire of Giad, so the Legion is an army of drones fighting for an empire that no longer exists because it wasn't programmed to account for regime change. It's honestly really believable.
@@matthewmuir8884 it’s honestly not believable. So basically the ai so stupid it couldn’t realize that it’s empire has been overthrown but could coordinate millions of units effectively? Yeah ok.
Falling in love with this show was a whole experience for me. Like most of the people i know, I started the show with cautious optimism, not sure if I would like it since I'm not huge on mecha. By the end of the first episode, I had an appreciation for the sharp scene direction and the compelling characters and world. By the second episode, my eyes were wide at the truly incredible animation, especially the CGI integration. By episode 6, I was in love with the characters, and by episode 11 I was crying at the drop of a hat. I thought it was a truly impressive show and I was hyped for more. Then the second cour dropped. And that's when I started noticing the subtle details, like the symbolism baked into the backgrounds of certain shots, the tiny details in the way the characters move and interact with their surroundings, and the careful attention put into the facial expressions and body language of the characters. I was in absolute awe. And at the end of episode 16, when they hit us with an ending scene that literally made my jaw drop, I finally broke and read the light novels. In my opinion, this show is an example of a perfect adaptation. They turned the series into an anime that fully utilizes every advantage an animated series has to convey the same story, characters, and emotions that the novel captures through words alone. Every change made was carefully crafted and beautifully executed. 86 has become the standard that all other adaptations are going to be living up to for me. I'm looking forward to the final two episodes in March and I hope to god it gets renewed, but even if it doesn't, I feel truly blessed to have had the chance to experience this show.
the direction and production team for 86 is amazing aswell, the amount of tiny little details they included adds depth to its adaptation, scenes like the amount of flowers changing to tell the lost of a comrade or the amount of people left in the squad, or the changing of intros with less and less people included in the squad photo, to the never ending rail and the broken rail signifying lena's journey of catching up and final does in the last episode, or kurena's tiny step in between lena and shin in the final photo as a last ditch effort, these tiny details make this anime so great
Milize's definitely not straight scientist friend who probably also has a crush on her is another way the show LIGHTLY explores how San Magnolia is fucked in a way which kind of satirises how harsh some of japan's attempts to force up their falling birthrates have been? She's CONSTANTLY rejecting state-arranged marriages because the dudes are fucking assholes and instead hanging out with her one girl friend who she literally helps break the law on multiple occasions. (Not just that one time Milize kiinda blackmailed her... D:) And like yes at least she has the choice to reject all of these creeps, but also... she shouldn't be forced to see all of these people she's not interested in in the first place.
A thing to metion is that she was close friends with an colorata, after all the propaganda, she probably suffered a lot of bulling from her classmates, that bulling probably never stopped, that's an why all her pretenders are either desperate old men or childs too young to know.
She's not into her friend. She rejects the guys because they aren't the boy next door that she cared about and sold out. Who is apparently Shin. She has some mental hang ups long story short.
@@Mord12gp Eeeh IDK, all I know is I'm a lesbian and I definitely got some vibes from those two early on that were a lot closer than just gals being pals. Those vibes did kinda die off after Milize did the blackmail shit though, for obvious reasons D:
@@000Dragon50000 There is a lesbian in the novels and she has appeared in the anime for abit and will probably be more prominent next season, but it's not Annette.
@@PositiviteaTheFirst Oh? Didn't even know there were novels tbh, and whilst I still think there's no straight explanation for milize and annete's interactions, happy to see there's someone a bit more explicit about it. (Also huh my first guess would be a bit of a spoiler for the current arc so spoilers beware) Is it their current commander in this new country they ended up in? The former pilot lady?
Let's take a brief moment to appreaciate the soundtrack of 86 -Eighty Six-. We all know Hirouki Sawano and Kohta Yamamoto are some of the greatest composers of this generation, but here they just kicked it out of the park. THE ANSWER , Hands Up to the Sky, Voices of the Chord, Avid , EIGHTY-SIX , Shin , 4N. There are just too many incredible songs in this series.
Dude I haven’t seen enough people talking about this. Seriously the music elevates the anime to incredible heights, which helps when adapting a LN. When they played hands up to the sky during that Fido scene, I don’t think I’ve experienced those emotions before. Not even close
86 is one the few pieces of fiction I call an absolute masterpiece, the animation, storyline, world building, and the those goddamn ost's by Hiroyuki Sawano. It doesn't appeal to much of an audience but those who are invested in it, know how much of an emotional ride this is. A-1 Pictures has done this piece of work with passion and perfection. I'm totally obsessed with this show and I'm very pleased that my anime taste is evolving as time passes. Really want this to be a long running show. F*cking glory to the spearhead squadron!!
I love 86, it's perfectly Mecha for me. It ditches the absurdity of the bipedal Mecha. And yeah I'm fully obsessed with 86, to the point I own all of the Light Novel.
This show is phenomenal. A group of masters working at the top of their game. It is gorgeous to look at, constantly engaging to watch. I wanna put down a highlight in this comment, some great detail that really stood out but like… it’s just everything man. Should I talk about the super interesting and engaging directing choice in the first half of the show to have each episode split into two portions, one where we’re in san magnolia and our only link with the processors is their voices over the para-raid, and then the other half where it’s reversed, and we’re living with the realities of this battle, and only the voice over the para-raid reminds us that there’s anything else. Maybe I should talk about shin, and how he is such a heartbreaking protagonist, shouldering all the pain, not only from watching his comrades die, but from the fact that he has vowed to take them to the end, meaning there won’t be anyone left to carry him. Maybe I could continue where this video gushed about how in depth and realistic the world-building is, paying painstaking attention to all the intricacies that would have built this world Maybe I should talk about the exhilarating way the juggernauts move. How watching them fight makes me sit up at attention and watch, fully engrossed in how each of them moves and fights so quickly and frenetically. Or maybe I should just tell you to go watch it. Do it. Even if you already have, watch it again. I think I’m gonna go do that right now. Just that good.
this here is a masterpiece in the making.. like the frst season alone.. atleast the episodes which had been released up until now had been thoroughly amazing..the direction, soundtracks and especially the character which seem 2 dimensional at start thoroughly get stretched to full extent especially cour 2 on how it gives a whole new aspect to the character drama in the series.. ngl i had to pick up the LN after the freakin cliffhanger at ep 21,and it just gets better and better
I got back into anime the year before last and watched the first episode while completely out of the loop and didn’t know what to expect. I was so moved i got my right arm tattooed of Lena and shin. The nuance of these characters and their dynamics (although completely different circumstances) is extremely relatable. Each of the characters has an odd ability to create such a relatability that is unparalleled in many animes or stories just in general. That alone is enough for it to be well deserving of all the praise and hype not even counting the so many other facets that have been clearly factored in and balanced in a way that’s truly refreshing. I appreciate the show for just being a good story and being honest in its animation and it’s limitations. Instead of just giving up and kind of putting it out and relying on its characters to drive the story, the production clearly made a decision (that they aren’t ufotable) to create an uncanny atmosphere i can only describe as comfortable and oddly believable. Now i know none of it is real but the way it portrays emotion through clearly thought out imagery, pacing, and sound dynamics is truly an unmatched masterpiece. I’ve gotten many people who aren’t traditionally into anime to watch demon slayer and they are blown away but those same people have put aside their love for flashy and endearing characters and genuinely fell in love with each character and connected with the setting and emotions that are created. This is my favorite anime and although I’ve watched it through 10 times you opened up new ways for me to look at it and i truly appreciate it. I hope this anime gets the recognition it truly deserves because the production and decisions are those that if it weren’t “just anime” and was portrayed live action in the same high rolling cast, it would be up for multiple awards.
As someone who was never really the biggest fan of War/Mech anime, i honestly didn't know what to expect from this show initially. It came up on Crunchyroll so i figured "eh ill give it a shot" .... Well i binged watched both seasons in 2 days and I can now say this show instantly made it into my top 5 all time. I ended up buying the LNs, bought the Bandai figures, and now try to recommend it to anyone and everyone. From the plot line to the character development to the music and art work this show honestly goes above and beyond.
Timed brilliantly for me just getting stuck into this series! Always look forward to your insight on any show I’ve enjoyed or am about to enjoy watching.
In a season jam packed with great shows it was still by far my number 1 for all the reasons you stated. I can still _feel_ the emotions that rose up in me as I watched the battle scene unfold to Kohta Yamamoto's "Spearhead" building from its opening drums into an epic symphony that wove together with the action to point where I literally jumped up and shouted "HOLY SHEEEEEEEET!! Things just got real! Yeah!" It is simply gripping!
This is legit, as a mech fan I was curious as to what was the buzz about 86 is, as I watch the whole series it keep me wishing nobody would die anymore, but damn every episode they kill a person you started liking. the end of season 1 episode 12 was a real tear jerker as one by one the last spear platoon die and the last stand of the MC and the regrets and efforts of the female MC was very impactful. but with season 2 it gave me hope for a better life for the 86's future the cliff hanger blue ball so much on episode 11 for the long wait for episode 12 of season 2 is on march. My reating for 86 Season 1 10/10 Season 2 8-9/10
Thank you thank you thank you for making an 86 video. It's so good it's a shame that it's so underrated and unknown. It's become one of my favourite anime of 2021 and has a strong hold of my heart. The penultimate episode of the first season's second cour was breathtaking in a production standpoint, it became my favourite episode so far. Not only is it emotionally stimulating but the cinematography, sound design, and animation is absolutely stunning.
Thank you very much for taking a closer look at this show, that I think gets often overlooked (like at the Anime Awards) or downplayed as simply "racism bad", when it actually provides a nuanced look at (systemic) racism. Also, I think that the script is extremely tight and that no piece of dialogue is without purpose. You talked about the scenes with the pets as if they were just slice of life part, when they're actually used to give a deeper insight into the relationship between Lena and the Spearhead Squadron. The relationship between the Spearhead Squadron and the cat is the same as the relationship between Lena and the Spearheads. Because Lena subconsciously treats them as her pets who she takes care of after a long day of work, similar to how the Spearheads relax by messing around with the cat a little bit. This is also mirrored with the name of the cat. The Spearheads think of the cat as their pet, as something subhuman that doesn't have such a thing as an inherent name, so they call it whatever they feel like based upon the cat's appearance or whatever book Shin was recently reading. The cat's name is volatile, because they don't see it as human. Likewise, Lena did initially not fully regard the Spearheads as fully human, because she did not ask for their proper names and instead called them by their unit name, which is based on a marking on their mechs, i.e. their visual appearance like with the cat. This goes to show that you can't fully escape systemic racism, even if you honestly want to and attempt to circumvent it. Or in other words, this show is more than simply "racism bad", like so many of its critics throw at this show. And unfortunately it didn't really get the recognition it deserved at the Anime Awards from Crunchyroll or Reddit's anime subreddit. It's a well produced show with a tight script, lots of subtlety and symbolism.
That's not systemic racism at all though. That is a more psychological racism, ESPECIALLY concerning the cat part. You can escape systemic racism because we don't live in systemically racist countries? Or at least, I don't. In the UK, a report by a BLACK person concluded that systemic racism did not exist in the UK whilst societal and individual racism persisted. The man had his degree rescinded in response. Systemic racism is a very dangerous idea that many people don't truly understand and can, most definitely, be escaped. The funny thing is though, the people most vocal against their perceived 'systemic racism' tend to believe in CRT which would lead to the government becoming systemically racist due to the requirements behind CRT being specific about people's racial identities and equity. We're seeing the beginning of this in Canada. But it wouldn't be the first time that the more extreme left types have poorly thought out beliefs that cannibalize themselves... Systemic racism is just a buzzword nobody seems to understand. Anyway, aside from the political stuff, in regards to the anime itself: I disagree. Unless the story is something like an isekai, these sorts of clever messaging are always included in basically every work and are always fun to find if you pay close attention. But they're actually quite meaningless to the quality of the story itself. My issue with the theme was that it was handled with so little subtlety it lost all emotional intent and complexity. There may have been more subtle notes included, but that doesn't change its dialogue, story, or its characters. AOT does the whole thing but better, more subtly, and with more complexity. So just watch that instead?
The problem with the comparison is, in most modern countries like the US, there is actually no systemic racism, but rather, a pervasive myth of systemic racism. There are no laws in the US that apply to only a specific race, but there are plenty in San Magnolia (the processors are literally not recognized as human by law). Now, there do exist racial disparities that may be due to historical actual systemic racism, but that is not systemic racism in itself; but rather merely a result of it.
@@hoominbeeing The Critical Race Theorists argue that it's BECAUSE the system doesn't define race that makes the system 'systemically racist'. They believe that white people are privileged and black people are victims and thus, the system is racist for the very fact that it's equal. They then believe the best way to defeat this is by making a system that clearly defines race and favours certain ones, to overcome the invisible race differences. It's really ludicrous and dangerous view, but one that is propagated by ignorance. Most just think because CRT is anti-racist it must be valid. Without understanding that pretty much everyone is anti-racist, they just have different methods of attempting to solve the problem. The most extreme one isn't the best one. I'd say about 1% of those that support CRT and the belief of systemic racism, actually understand CRT. Most are just morons.
@@pagatryx5451 How do you define CRT? And where do you get this definition from? From my observation, most leftoids just define CRT as acknowledging that history has an effect on the modern day in regard to racism, which I'm sure we all agree with.
This anime is totally amazing and the LN is incredible too The story is amazing every episode feel different Characters are really well written too and some episode are very emotional And the big advantage of this anime is that the CGI is so well done that it doesn't seem CGI Like all the mechs looks very fluid and not static It's sad that it's really underated cuz it's an amazing show, A 1 pictures did a really good job adapting it Definitely one of my favorite anime in term of story and animation for me and I hope for more seasons after the S2 end
This show has spoken to me from the first episode, the main character and how he carries his damage and PTSD, while still maintaining control of himself to still lead his squad. In one of the later episodes when he talked about how he felt like he died a long time ago, and is a ghost made me feel something gut wrenching and familiar.
I love this series so much, the first season made me pick up reading the light novels and they were so hard to put down. Plus, the author of the series seems like a huge dork that puts a lot of passion into the series.
This is literally my favorite anime at this point. The story is told so well, the music is great, the characters were excellent. It got to a point where the combat scenes were the least interesting part of the series whereas many anime use combat as their crutch. That's not to say that the combat in 86 was bad. It was great, but I loved everything else more.
Waiting for Episodes 22 and 23 has been murder as a Light Novel reader. Between this and Mushoku Tensei, last year was my favorite in anime. 86 is one of those rare shows where the anime only content has actually been 100% beneficial to the story. I have the highest respect for everyone who worked on this rendition but special shoutout goes to Kohta Yamamoto and Hiroyuki Sawano, the soundtrack was an instant buy for me. The track "hear my voice" is a 88 mm round straight to the feels. Glad you were able to get this video officially cleared. I really want the feedback to be so great for this series that they have to adapt the whole thing (even if this current season is my favorite even in the Light Novels).
Hard agree on everything. I have zero doubts they'll adapt the whole thing, the anime did really well and they still have a ton of material to go through
In addition to your well-articulated analysis, I viewed 86 in a completely different way. But to explain how and why I viewed this show differently, I need to contextualize my experience as a person who was born and raised in Japan. While I was born and raised in Japan, my parents immigrated to Japan from Bangladesh. This means that I am a child of immigrants in a country that is considered homogeneous by Europe and North America. While I would love to get into why Japan isn't homogeneous and how that claim is based on misusing data, that's not the point of my comment so I won't get into it right now. You see, Japan traditionally has been horrible at depicting minorities and even fascism. Fascism in Japanese media has a history of being depicted neutrally or depicted as a "competent ideology". A lot of this has to do with the fact that Japan still refuses to acknowledge its past and a worrying number of people in Japan are at least sympathetic to fascists. Secondly, minorities in Japan despite being quite a large part of the Japanese population are often represented as stupid or airheaded. This trope has been especially common with people of European, African, and South Asian ancestry. In that environment, we are lucky to get a good representation of minorities in Japan or media that tackles the topic of minority struggles in Japan. I think that 86 not only does minority representation well, it does it explicitly not only from a liberal framework but even from a leftist framework which from a right-leaning country like Japan, is undoubtedly an accomplishment. The anime also depicts fascism not from a sympathetic lens but from the perspective of reality, in that fascists are often racist, incompetent, and use minorities to fight their battles when push comes to shove. This is a common element between European fascism and Japanese Fascism. For instance, I see Lena as a stand-in for liberals in the sense that they are passionate about achieving justice but are comfortable in doing so from the framework of modifying the status quo. So one example of this is how Lena genuinely feels bad for the pilots but didn't even think to learn their individual names. The show explicitly calls out Lena and one of the major themes in season one is that it's not enough to oppose racism, you have to be proactive fight the entrenched political structure that enable the system in the first place. This was a major character arc for Lena especially, as we see Lena grow more and more hostile towards San Magnolia. This may be fairly normal for modern media in the US or Europe but in a country like Japan, this is absolutely not the case. Of course, huge portions of media are political and I'm not saying that media that is political is inherently good. The aspect of 86 that is great in 86 lies in how it depicts politics and doesn't hide its political message. Other shows delve into politics for sure. Hell, other shows also can represent the topic of minority representation and even the topics of genocide well as FMAB has done. But even for FMAB, the solution ultimately was encased in the sphere of the modification of the status quo rather than a radical change to said status quo. The same can be applied to Code Geass, Iron-Blooded Orphans, etc. But 86 is a departure from that. Not only is the destruction of San Magnolia treated as a neutral event, even in season two, the leader of the Giad even said something like "If we are unable to live by these ideals, but we also don't deserve to exist". Now, it's worth noting that I don't necessarily agree with everything 86 says in their themes, but my point is that 86 explores a radical side of politics not through a liberal lens but from a leftist lens and that is exceedingly rare and that in itself is a huge accomplishment in Japanese media. It's one of the reasons I actually enjoyed season one over season two. In short, 86 is a critique of Japanese fascism, European fascism, and North American fascism but more importantly, it's a critique of liberalism and of liberal societies for its tendency to attempt to keep the status quo. This to me is the most interesting aspect of 86 and makes the show truly one of a kind.
@@missplainjane3905 Sure! I hope you don't mind wordy answers, But feel free to add more questions or we can have a more in-depth conversation through discord or something if the conversations get too wordy here. 1. I think Japan is a highly developed country but in terms of advancement, I guess it depends on what you mean. Japan is great in terms of its technology. Everything from buying train tickets, buying groceries, paying taxes, using and utilizing public transport, and just living, in general, feels comfortable and intuitive. However, Japan is lacking in a few key aspects, one, women's rights are still behind Western Europe, two, LGBTQ+ rights, and minority rights are also lacking. Though the good news is we are slowly catching up to Western Europe and North America over time. 2. In terms of technology, Japan is probably top-notch. There is one complaint I would make about the tech aspect though. Credit and debit cards are still not widely used so it may become inconvenient if you don't carry money around. So 9/10? Food-wise, I like Japanese food but that also might be because I grew up in the country. In terms of diversity of foods, you will find authentic food from other countries too if you live in cities like Tokyo, Osaka, and Kyoto. Japanese food has lots of seafood but even if you don't like seafood, there are lots of options within Japanese cuisine. So you might think that Japan being a technologically advanced country means that Japan doesn't have lots of nature. But that's actually not true. Japan has lots of pretty scenery even if you live in a city, you will have access to lots of green areas. And I'd also recommend visiting rural Japan as well since most tourists only visit the cities. Don't get trapped in tourist traps and actually look for cheaper places. If you are paying more than 500 yen (slightly less than $5 USD) for a single serving of ramen, the chances are, you might be getting charged too much. The quality of living is extremely high, but I would say that it's much better to live in Kobe, Osaka, instead of Tokyo because Tokyo can be really pricey. So overall food would be a 7/10 and the scenery would be like 8/10. Climate-wise, it rains a lot more than most other countries so if you don't like dreary rain whether you might have a tougher time. Otherwise, you get a diverse set of temperatures from being hot and humid in Hiroshima, Okinawa to cold and snowy in Hokkaido. 3. This might be the trickiest question so far. Let's see: Safe, convenient, and flawed. I don't know if I was able to sufficiently answer the questions.
@@missplainjane3905 I would say it's quite popular in Japan. Japanese people themselves know how popular anime is both domestically and abroad. It's very popular. One thing to note, however, is that anime in the Japanese context doesn't just mean Japanese animation. It includes both Japanese and western animation. Regardless, it's popular and nowadays, anime studios seem to cater to both markets.
An extremly deep series analysed by one of the biggest brains of the youtube anime community? Sign me up! Jokes aside, I adore this video, from the explanations, to the vocabulary employed and the different facets of the show tackled, this is amazing.
To be fair, I've had the best Immersion within in an Anime from 86. The world building and atmosphere is really good with some likeable characters and the show constantly makes you not to grown too attached to a single character. No cheesy tropes, just pure Immersive Racially based War Mecha Anime that I really liked.
Just finished watching the last 2 episodes, and this would probably be the mech anime that I will not stop talking about for my entire life like what Eva and Gundam did to the previous generation of mecha hardcore weebs 86 will be that one anime for me, I finally understand on why there are people who are so vocal with those anime because of how much depth, care, and attention the production crew did on those mech anime. 86 was one of those, I still think that 86 is a bit underrated last season blocked by other big time anime airing at the time. But thankfully that 2 months delay was worth it for the last two episodes to air. Giving the anime the spotlight it needed to end. I'm just excited for a season 2/3? For 86 that last episode just shed a tear on my eye, that totally scene was the pay-off that I needed after watching it all from the start. MB's Review on 86 was everything that I wanted to hear, most especially at the tatical aspect of 86, design, cinematography, little details that caught my attention... MB just mentioned them all it was satisfying. The light novel of this anime was said to be really good as well so perhaps it is time for me to take a small peak on Vol.4 hopefully no spoilers lol.
I watched 86 for the first time a few weeks ago. Then I rewatched it this week. Now I’m going to pick up the light novels. 😌 The commentary on war and discrimination is just so nuanced. I’m genuinely surprised that the author got it *so right*. Then, of course, there’s the emotions it puts you through - “I don’t want to die” aside, the Fido montage had me simultaneously laughing and sobbing???
For 3-5 years I did not watch any anime, but I had a lot of free time this weekend/holiday so I watched it. I wanted to read it first, but I watched it instead. I had to say, the visuals, the sounds, the story, man even the dog/robot are fenomenal. It has that punch that makes me wanna watch it again, and again, and again. But man, the feels that this show has, is insane. It is everything that is worth watching anime for.
It also covers veteran PTSD and survivor's guilt impeccably. Watching the first cour had me immediately start binging the LN's up to the furthest released. Also many-legged mechs are more realistic and (in my opinion) cooler to watch fight.
This anime was soo good is an understatement. Not a big fan of modern mecha anime but this one really touched my heart and kept pulling the heartstrings throughout. Shall remember it for a long time unlike most animes i enjoy. Must watch and def recommend
I've been watching anime for the better part of 12 years now, and everytime I think 'this is it, it doesn't get better than this', the industry somehow, someway, proves me very very wrong. But I can honestly say that I can count on a singular hand the number of shows that have made me immediately start buying up the source material as quickly as humanly possible. I am absolutely obsessed with this series as well, and I literally don't know what to do with myself until March 12th. In other words, 86 is just built different.
I started buying the LN immediately after watching the first cour but I can't find volumes 1 and 4 anywhere to buy online. And here I am reading them using wordreference app in my phone as a "crutch" because I'm from Spain and they are the first books I've read in english since my High School years (I'm 40 btw xD).
If you liked this show i would suggest you try The Sky Crawlers (2008). IN some ways its similar and has a real punch. Not as much action however, more the emotional aspect and the mystery.
Your thoughts on the 17.5 was right on the ball, i went into it expecting some awkward shilling but no! We get to hear just how much the VAs loved acting out the Characters. How they imprint some of their own personalty in the performances and in-depth character dynamics i didn't even consider.
i loved this show, its been the only anime that almost made me cry over each character death, and towards the end of the first season. its hard to not get attached to each character. though my favorite character is Theoto Rikka
I am not an anime viewer but I stumbled upon 86 and became quickly fascinated. As French, I cannot help but draw many parallels between San Magnolia Republic and ... the French Republic during the WWI period. Asato Asoto, the LN writer (that I started to read) got so many things right about the way she inspired from history. The tragic, the hypocrisy but like Lena but also Rei and 86 wanting to uphold republic's values nevertheless are a huge inspiration to me. That is some kind of very positive cultural appropriation. The final episodes were released after the Ukrainian conflict broke briging back the war in Europe since 1990. The 86 pride and courage faced with overwhelming forces was resonating way more powerfully after that. I cannot help but compare them to their real world counterparts in Ukraine. The adaptation is fantastic, I will not repeat what's in your video but just say that the LN goes a bit far into the technicalities of the warfare and that may be boring. The anime while forsaking some details hides all this in a "show but don't tell" philosphy that make it way more attractive. And the japanese obsession with details is so that these technicalities are rather rendered in visual details visible to people looking for them. It has earned a solid 1st place in my heart.
Watching the final 5 make their last stand in episode 11 had me in tears; it was basically my time playing Halo Reach for the first time on steroids. Having not looked into the story at all beforehand, I genuinely went into the second season believing that Lena was going to be the focus. Then the next episode came out and... then things got interesting. I cannot wait for the last episodes to air.
This is a hot take, but I actually prefer 86's more subtle form of storytelling compared to AoT's massive walls of exposition text. There's a reason "show don't tell" is vital to any form of visual media. Edit: 86's characters feel more real and nuanced to compared too the truly bombastic, but still undoubtedly lovable, cast of AoT. Mind you this is a personal take and I am not saying 86 is better than AoT. I'm just saying I prefer it's presentation.
Agreed, "show, don't tell" is something more shows should go for. We have an anime this season called "She proffesed herself pupil of the wise child" or something like that, which starts with the narrator having a long monologue giving a huge info dump about what's going on right off the bat, instead of letting the viewers figuring it out themselves. It made me appreciate 86's approach of "show, don't tell" even more. They could have easily opted for a narrator which would give info dumps in the same way, but they went creative and chose visual storytelling which is the best IMO for anime medium. Anime is a visual medium afterall, unlike light novels.
I appreciate how you articulates the greatness of this show. At first I thought this anime was just going to be a blatant "death of the week" tearjerker, but at the end of Season 1 I found myself compelled to give it a 9/10 on MAL.
Thank you for mentioning the Dub and Sub casts rock both languages. Thank you for mentioning the excellent recap/live commentary episodes. And thank you for praising this series to the heavens. It deserves it. And while, they were forced to delay the last two episodes to March 13th and 20th, they have done a fantastic job! At 24:35, you hit the nail on the head. "It seriously respects its fanbase and "aims" to tell the best experience it possibly can to us week after week no matter what." Also, I didn't hear you mention anything about follow-ups, but I don't think this series will get more anime unless a small miracle occurs. They just squeaked by for 23 episodes and doing a movie or full second season would be unlikely. So let's just keep following the novels and see what conclusion badass Ms. Asato Asato writes for us. They just hit volume 11 in Japan. Volume 9 in English drops February 22nd, 2022 and Volume 10 drops May 17th 2022.
I had watched 86 when it came out in 2021, and my opinion about it at the time was " It's just a good anime, nothing more " and my rating for it at the time was only 7/10. But with time and after hearing many people's opinions about it and how it is a great anime and its story is deep, my mind started wondering " Was the anime really that great but I am the one who didn't understand it? " So I decided to rewatch it again, but this time with my full focus, because at the time I wasn't focusing on the story and dialogues. I finished watching it a while ago and honestly the anime was really great and much better than I thought. I can say that 86 is simply one of the best mecha and drama anime ever. And my rating for it now is 9.5/10.
The world building of 86 is just too damn good. So this will have some spoilers to those who have not watched it or read the novel. Each nation of 86 have their own history, culture, governance and military hardware. This as in they are almost entire different from one another. For the anime that is we can compare with the two nations in doctrine and war philosophy. While San Magnolia (aslo just known as the Republic) literally wants their soldiers die in the battlefield by having their juggernauts not having armour which even the slightest machine gun hit will decapitate it entirely. The oy upside it have is that because of the lack of armour it have luridiculous speed and manuverbility. With not sending their own people to die the best they have is using long range artillery support well, to support the frontline that is until they don't. That is why in the later episodes you can see just how good and far the artillery technology of the Republic have come. They have different types of shells like AP, HE, cluster mortar shells, incendiary and much more. Although downside being cause the Republic military is so incompetent, most of their artillery are badly maintained. Only have them hastily brought back up by Lena later on. Now moving to the doctrine and war philosophy of the Federal Republic of Giad or known as the Federacy. By knowing their doctrine and war philosophy one has to know why this nation was founded in the first place. Federal Republic of Giad was formerly known as Empire of Giad or Giadian Empire. This empire is the one that creates the Legion and wage war across the other nations. It was because of that a former general named Ernst Zimmerman lead a rebellion that ultimately crushed the Giadian Empire thus founding the Federal Republic of Giad. The Federacy is build on his ideals where sacrificing such many should be avoided at all cost but at the same time as a former general he knows this war will end in much more casualties. Thus armour and protection is much more important than speed cause what's the good of fighting a war if your more experienced pilot can't survive one hit? This however comes at the cost of speed thus making M4A3 Vánagandr much more looking like a tank and protective head gear were issued to the crews. And the M4A3 Vánagandr have 2 pilots one driver and one gunner. It's war doctrine also implies on their infantry where powered suits were issued to every one of them. Also a plus, deception tactic such as dropping a butt load of radar reflective metal in the air to decept the legion that the Allied forces (exclude the Republic) are massing in other region before a mass assault. Any history buff fans will know this was famously used once in WW2. And that's just the tiny but of it. There's much more than this. Just show how good the author is in world building
One of the stand out moments in this show for me was seeing character deaths from Lena's perspective. There's something grim about seeing each member just removed from the list when their killed in action. From the command room you can't see anything that's happening but you know right away when someone is now dead. On top of that, the labels for destroyed processors never go away so Lena and the audience are always reminded of how many have been lost as the show goes on.
This anime hooked me immediately but unlike Mushoku Tensei, which was a joy to watch... Eighty Six did it's job too well. It became so emotionally charged that I HAD to put it down. Like how many people start to get "fatigued" by the constant flood of negative news stories prevalent in modern mainstream 24 hour cycle news media. Attempting to binge this show was literally depressing. A testament to how great it is in it's storytelling ability. UC Gundam is filled with a blatant undeniable undercurrent of optimism and hope for the future and Eighty Six just takes that hope and curb stomps it repeatedly. It shows you the stark reality of a broken world that frighteningly resembles our own in so many ways if you are making those connections. Like Schindler's List, I don't think I'm going to do repeated viewings despite being an absolute masterpiece.
"86 Eighty-Six" Episodes 22 & 23 will be airing on the 12th and 19th of March respectively, additionally there will be a new recap episode airing on the 5th of March
I love how much visual storytelling they did on this show which I feel is quite rare in Japanese media. I was surprised that this was actually an adaption of a light novel with how much they relied on the visuals. It just shows how much the creators are passionate about this project. Thank you so much for dissecting this show! I feel this show is so under appreciated despite how mature and amazing it is.
I wouldnt call it rare for japanese media to use visual story telling, rather i have seen it done almost exclusively in anime, that being said it almost always comes down to the staff involved, the budget and other messy issues. 86 in particular made use of it to make up for its many many many production issues throughout the 2nd season, where a lesser show would have character JUST talk on screen 86 will show some very specific imagery etc. Furthermore the show itself uses this style to imply things from the novel it couldn't outright say. To put it simply, the directors knew what they wanted to show and how and worked around immense limitations to make it happen. I would highly recommend reading the novels (e books on amazon) and then rewatching the anime, really drives home just how amazing this adaption was.
Gundam had way more "show don't tell" storytelling than 86. Hell, name any 80s real robot mecha show by Tomino, Takahashi, even Kawamori, I can bet none of them explain things the way 86 did. Can't lie that animators really did their hardest, but I would hardly call it "a masterpiece".
@@mechamaniac1567that scene when Lalah and Ghiren first properly introduce was the most genius thing I ever seen. Tomino show us many things about who Ghiren is in just one line shorter than a minute "Hitler? is he the man in middle age?" that one absolute masterpiece the paragon example of show not tell. not only Ghiren is so full of his ego he also and cold blooded ignorant who think he is smarter than human of the older age. he so look down on AD century that he think his greed is something brand new and original, not knowing what he done is just a mare another "greedy man" doing "greedy thing" in the next page of history book. for Lalah oh boy "Captain don't forget your spacesuit" it literally just wife tell the husband to don't forget to bring the raincoat before go to work, and char just didn't seem to care because he doesn't want to carry it and hope the rain will not drop today. don't forget Greco have people scream "oh Su-cord!" instead of "oh God!" before they even introduce the religion topic in it. if anyone in this genre going to deserve the title king of mech it sure must be Kill'em all Tomino. and 86 will never be slightest bit close to it. it may look emotional but what method they pull that out is cheap and not creative, sometimes even feel forced and manipulative. but what can I say Gundam is lower concept show not mass available for normal old type to understand after all. right?
@@scirocco8017 I think the reason why so many people just don't understand Tomino are the translations. His shows are written in a manner that's very theatric. As for misunderstanding of the genre I think that's a topic people are slowly starting to cover, even if somewhat shyly. Once you see some of the older mecha shows that are available (and that number thankfully grows with every single passing day thanks to companies like Discotek and dedicated fansubbers) you just can't afford to call 86, a show that's very blatantly ridden with plotholes and underused characters, a "masterpiece" like Mother's Basement did here. I personally don't think the show's bad but the very fact it's an LN advertisement knocks off points just from knowing there's more "meat" in written form rather than anime - a no-no for mecha.
As a lover of mecha, 86 has been a godsend. There haven't been many seriously good mecha in the past, I dunno, decade? So many stumble and falter their way into contrived plots and weak narratives, so getting the treat that is 86 is like eating rich chocolate after years of Easter Bunny chocolates. I have to say, my favorite quirk of 86 is how it frequently jumps between two different perspectives of the same scene, often separated by credits or musical pieces. In the early episodes, this aspect alone helps make the literal and figurative separation between Spearhead and Lena. Also the show is just kinda gorgeous? God I can't wait for the final episodes to air.
10 days until the next LN volume is out in english aaaggh I can't wait also the way they adapt parts of the LN info visual storytelling is something else idk how many anime I've seen that did such an amazing job but its not many
This adaptation is absolutely fantastic. That scene with Shin and the commander... There was nothing like that in the light novel, but it was wonderful. I was laughing as I watched it, in spite of the tone, out of sheer amazement at how much love went into that. And the show is chock-full of details like that!
I mean, MB still spends most of the video focusing on it and that part of the plot is like... 10% of the overall actual plot. After EP12, that whole subplot is mostly over with.
@@NoReplyAsset No problems with criticism here. As earlier responses indicated, I was refering to other anitubers saying 86 isn't worth watching cause this is the only theme in it.
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Just FYI, this video was finished back in December, but because we were working with the rights hokders, it took... A while to get copyright approval. We also had to limit how much non-86 footage we used, hence all the live action.
Thank you for making this video
It might be hard, but I'm glad you worked with the rights holders. We definitely don't mind the live action, if the return is knowing you will get the money and no take down issues.
Wait, does this explain Crunchyroll sponsorship, or were they just this classy about the roast?
Totally not political :P
Anitube seems to be a landmine these days. I'm glad you got this out though. More people need to watch this series.
nothing broke my heart as the commander realizing she asked for the cat's name before that of any of her operators and THANKS THE DIRECTOR FOR NOT SPELLING IT OUT LOUD
That was the thing that struck me the hardest when I rewatched it!
What episode is that again?
@@kuzeyuki69 don't remember it was like 3 episodes in I think or smyhing like that
🤣🤣🤣
I literally just re-watched that episode and I hadn't picked up on that, that's so clever!
So the reason that I love this show is because it get so much right about what is like to be in combat. A little background I was U.S Marine with a combat deployment to Afghanistan in 2009. Yes I have seen combat I was in 1st battalion 5 Marine Regiment Weapons company 81s platoon.
What it get right is the outer craziness of being in a combat zone. I have personal gone from being in a Firefight then a couple of hours I am cutting up potatoes we bought in the local market. So the scenes of the Spearhead squadron being a brutal fight then later that night talking B.S while making dinner.
What it also get right is the reaction to losing friends to enemy action. In the show they show the members of being sad for a little then diving back into the fight might seem cold but it is necessary since if your to wrapped up in grief you can miss what the enemy is doing and get yourself or one of your squad mates killed.
If all that sound crazy and curle that is War.
Facts, army here and the scene that I loved was when Diya went to save Lecca even though they didn't control the fight yet. It was a perfect example for me of dead bodies attract dead bodies; sure she may not have been dead yet but the fight wasn't won, they didn't even have fire superiority. And the net result was two dead with no gain. Add on the moments of Lina and spearhead to me was just like the disconnect between military and civilians. They may have a broad understanding of what we/they do but unless they've done the time, been in the shit they can't truly understand and because of that their kindness can hurt us/them without them realizing it.
Big respect dude, I'm not American but my buddy is a British soldier and he has nothing but respect for you guys.
@@johnusas2870 Fascinating to read this. I've been a reservist, but never been in a combat zone. I felt this show was real, but I don't have the personal experience to confirm that feeling.
As a veteran yourself, what do you think about the infantry placement and the whole battle strategy at the end of episode 7 of season 2?
I would like to thank you for your perspective and your service.
I was in the Army and deployed to Agghanistan in 2009. This is the only anime I've seen that manages to really get what that's like. Films and shows like Jarhead have done so but never an anime. There were times when watching I kept thinking that this had to be written by a veteran. There were a couple of times that triggered some unpleasant episodes but that's a testament to how well done this is.
One thing that I identified with immediately was the separation between the people on the battlefield and the people safe back home. This show reminded me of times where I was angry at the fact we were in the middle of Kandahar province, dodging IEDs and getting into firefights while everyone back home went on with their lives oblivious to what we were supposedly doing in their name. It pissed me off that it was barely mentioned in the news and that it was already referred to as the "forgotten war" while we were still fighting it. The show gets that dynamic and gets how people in such a shitty situation carry on and even take pride in it.
There's a lot more I could say but I dont want to write an essay. Especially considering I'm typing this on a phone and my thumbs are fat.
大変な経験をされた様で 私は貴方をとても尊敬いたします
私の国では軍人は忌み嫌われています 命がけで国を守っているはずなのに一部の人達は〘人殺し〙や〘犯罪者〙だと非難する人達が多く居ます
私はその事をとても悲しく思います
ですがこういう言葉を送った政治家も私の国にはいます
〘君達は自衛隊在職中決して国民から感謝されたり、歓迎されたりすること無く自衛隊を終わるかも知れない。非難とか誹謗ばかりの一生かもしれない。ご苦労なことだと思う。
しかし、自衛隊が国民から歓迎されチヤホヤされる事態とは、外国から攻撃されて国家存亡のときとか、災害派遣のときとか、国民が困窮し国家が混乱に直面しているときだけなのだ。
言葉を換えれば、君たちが日陰者であるときのほうが、国民や日本は幸せなのだ。
どうか、耐えてもらいたい。自衛隊の将来は君たちの双肩にかかっている。しっかり頼むよ。〙
この言葉に従って日々頑張っている人達とこのアニメの人物達がリンクしていると感じるのは私だけでしょうか？
戦士は多かれ少なかれ誇りを持って行動していると思います そういう人を私は心から尊敬いたします
貴方の過酷な従軍時代も誇りを抱いて駆け抜け 生き抜いたのだと想像しています
Thank you for your service. I'm sorry for how we back in the mainland forgotten you.
Difference is in 86 the people are forced to be in the military as compared to UK or US they enlist themselves. Therefore you have no right complaining about war if youre there on your own free will.
Patrick i realy appreciate your take on this anime, i found this anime to be to real and it had me in tears many times, but the good kind, i too thought it may have been written by a vet too, its just extreemely realistic
@@Ethanoljunkie Oh sure, discredit those who died fighting in an actual conflict while you're lounging in your comfy home. You're the very definition of the people he mentioned above, you know that? And FYI, he's not there at his own free will. He's there because he was ordered to. The only free will part is when he chose to join the military voluntarily.
That Fido episode though, just incredible creative cinematography and story boarding.
Never did I bawl over the "death" of an anime robot before. That one hits different.
yeah that one hurt so much. delivery matters
@@nerobeyo2 I bawled over the "death" of my favorite dog in anime.
@@nerobeyo2 thing is Fido was a real dog before he became the robot dog.
I thought the robot was so dumb when it was introduced to the story... man. never had that kind of thing flipped around on me
"Highly maneuverable scorpion tanks."
Just gonna add, the source materials state that juggernauts are actually not much more maneuverable than a traditional treadmill tank. The pilots of the spearhead squadron are elite veterans who have survived many years on the battlefield and are a capable of pushing their juggernauts well beyond the limits of their standard capabilities. But in the hands of your average processor, they're just like treadmill tanks.
You can see the difference with this topic in the second season.
@@ottonormal3354 Not to mention that spider tanks aren't "highly manoeuvrable" by any stretch. Each leg needs to have a motor that, if it conks out, the entire mech is screwed. Get a leg caught? Stuck or worse, upended. Plus, the cost to manufacture spare parts and stuff would be astronomical. A society that uses them would be broke within a year.
@@BobNinjaCat Thats wehy this tanks get called coffins in the series if im not wrong. ;) they break down the legs very often.
@@BobNinjaCat That is true. The actual only indirect explanation the novels gave is that the world of 86 was simply advance enough to be able to cheaply produce leg-based tanks instead of traditional treadmill tanks. The epitome of that said advancement of technology is with the Legion. It was still mentioned that treadmill tanks did exist but were phased out for reasons unknown, presumably the same way why the garand was phased out and replaced with an M14 and with the M14 with the M16. The Legion was the height of military technology of the Empire and the surrounding nations really only followed suit, that is until the Empire decided to go in a conquest spree.
@@AcZe1188 It surprises me that any of the nations would mass produce them for combat, then. Even if they were the height of military tech at the time (I want to cast serious doubts given today's focus on military tech), following the Legion's lead step-by-step is not how a realistic military power would function. Like you mentioned with the M14 garand, there would be improvements and adjustments made as time went on. I find it difficult to believe that Human pilots would be used over time when the development of technologies began to scale with demand on the front. The Legion also doesn't have by-the-hour intel afaik on its enemies.
I'd also like to preface that the term "Eighty-Six" is also slang for: "to throw out", "to reject", "to refuse service to", which makes the title of the LN/anime series even more so metaphorical and thematic
When I first saw the title of the anime I automatically assumed it had something to do with eliminating or cancelling a group of people, myself.
86 the catfish! 86 the French fries!
If you know, you know
That and Alba being the Latin word for “white” really brings home the symbolism and themes of these groups.
@@01NeilHD I worked in restaurants and that term was used to describe running out of an item. Considering how these fighters were in short supply, I totally get it. Running out of both time and existence. Not subtle at all. I wonder if it means the same thing in Japan as it does in the US.
And also the x86 instruction set, which is used by processors, named after the Intel 8086 chip it was initially used with... Which is probably the source of the series's name.
As a fan who originally picked up the light novel a couple years ago, I'm thrilled to see the anime do so well!
Oh yes the LN is amazing, I’m up to date with the English release on vol. 8 and I love this series so much!
Same here. I am not quite caught up on the LN but only one book behind, and am so happy the anime has done so well and is so accurate to the novels.
Are light novels completed?
It a grey show
@@archlectoryarvi2873 no, the latest vol is 11, and the English translation is on vol. 9 that will be coming out in a few weeks.
I've never cried for a robot dog before, but man... that one episode... onions were everywhere that day.
Damn, i miss his removed cult-coverage videos. Hope he fights back against the Injustice. Now i have to watch
only epic channel like sci man dan and genetically modified scepticagain, who debunk cults.
Spoiler?
@@mosark6554 if you're watching this without finishing the first half then you've already spoiled it for yourself. Don't blame my vague comment.
That was the only "character" I felt any emotion for. I can't remember any of the other characters that died.
@@johnwong381 Yeah, part 1 suffered from "too many characters syndrome" so all of the deaths were pretty meaningless to me. Part 2 was much better though.
My biggest disappointment with this anime was that it didn't get talked about half so much as it deserved. A lot of things about the light novel hit really close to home for me and everything from the military perspective, from the slang terms to the severe PTSD is dead accurate.
underrated masterpiece
I'd say quite the opposite, it's talked TOO MUCH about. Especially considering the fact mecha had it's former reputation completely destroyed by RUclips blokes like this m8 here.
It's pretty well-known in the anime community, but outside of that sphere, it's not
Now, tell me if I’m wrong. My biggest disappointment was that girl in the Second season. You know, the bratty, screechy nerve grinding one with the superpowers and the Princess title. I didn’t like her. Her story was cool, but she was just annoying and clashed like putting SpongeBob in with the Recon Corps.
@@jorisheppard8996 feel like a lot of series have those annoying people ngl
The ending was so perfectly made, just felt so emotional on how Lena has gone thru thinking they were all dead and at the end they were there in front of her. just hope there are more seasons to come
Its rumored that a 3rd (or 2nd depending on how youre counting) is greenlit allthough nothing has been confirmed yet
That scene touched me so hard I started collecting the LN's except Vol 3 below
@@ilksral3815dude, it has to be official by now. the novels are probably making good money off of the anime and the anime received a lot of positivity from the community. although it isn’t talked about much outside of anime itself, the producers know they’ll make even more money with season 2. it will, however, definitely take time for it’s release
I have watched the ending about 3 times and each time I do I cry. it's just too fucking good.
The music was also exceptional. AoT and 86 music is good enough to listen to on its own at times.
I also love how Ishi uses the symbolism in background scenes to convey messages. For example the railway scene with Shinei and Raiden. Raiden’s railway track that he’s standing over wnet straight, whilst Shinei’s track veered another direction displaying their disconnect in goal/objective.
Also in this scene, the railway behind Shinei is blocked, as if the path he was following would lead to a dead end, while Raiden's keeps going behind him. Also while Raiden is talking, his and Shin's shadow align, forming one shadow, while when Shin talks, their shadows are split in two, as Shin didn't believe in them being truly on the same path, while Raiden was adamant about it.
Then from that very same episode, you've got Theo, Anju, & Kurena being framed in the doorway vs through a broken window in a scene revolving around their perceptions of Shin.
And it's just so fuckin' good. Just stem to stern excellence.
The visual storytelling aspect of _Eighty Six_ is simply phenomenal, to the point I'd personally consider it on par with the five nominees for the Oscars' Best Cinematography award.
Pseud detected.
what episode is this?
86 is something special. It's one of the most maturely told stories about serious grownup subject matter I've seen in years, nothing like those edgelord deathgame anime which act like ultraviolence and grotesquely inappropriate fanservice is the same as "adult" storytelling. Even when the production team is pressed for time, you can't really accuse them of taking shortcuts when the direction and quality of the narrative is so high-level.
Watch March Comes in Like a Lion or Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu if you like maturely told stories about serious subjects. Those are some recent examples
gundam used to be like that with the original, zeta and a few others. Now it's mostly gunpla.
Hope the next episode is worth a wait *gulp*
I mean... it's definitely not immature in the way you're describing. I wouldn't call it "mature" by any metric. 86 is a very edgy show, probably one of the edgiest shows to come out in the last few years, and I'm comparing it to edgy shows like Goblin Slayer, Arifureta, and Darwin's Game.
@@yourethatmantis5178 Disagree.
I’ve always liked the relationship between Shin and Lena. When you think of it, Shin hears countless voices of Anguish and Despair yet her voice is that one light in his life. That one voice that reminds him little by little that he is Human. That he isn’t a monster. That he’s more then The Undertaker. When she’s gone, he fell back into despair and began to once again think that he was no longer human. It’s no wonder he began to fall for someone me he never even met face to face.
Fun fact: In the novels, when referring to the sound of her voice Shin in particular describes it as "silver bell like voice" which apparently has a way deeper meaning in japanese than in english
@@sleepynidzyy Actually I think it may be a reference to Christian traditions in this case. Traditionally, Silver Bells were rung at weddings, funerals and Christmas to ward off evil spirits.
Taking this into account, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say Shin was stating that Lena’s voice helps ward off the “evil spirits” (she distracts him from the voices of the dead)
this aged quite well
@@Gilamath. ??
Well said.
Episode 22 had one of the best use of aspect ratio transition i have ever seen across all mediums of entertainment. Truly amazing work all around.
Wake up.
@@jenniferbenson1059 what?
@@Homedespacito you need to wake up.
@@darthnihilus5384 ok I’m awake. Now what?
@@jenniferbenson1059We got a city to burn?
My favorite aspect about the series, which i'm amazed you didn't mention, is the subtle body language the characters have to convey emotions, in STARK contrast with most anime going for exaggerated angles and expresions.
During season 2 mostly, we get to see very very subtle twitches in shin, cleverly hidden from other characters in the conversation but show to us through low camera angles and closeups. You can see the slow decline of shin's mental state and THAT is what gets me.
Also also, you probably won't notice if you haven't seen it irl but, the faces the main cast make... those are the faces you see on soldiers who're not really back home.
YES. I can barely think of any anime I've seen where the characters move their faces like real people would. Quick glances, pauses before they speak, it's amazing honestly. I don't need dialogue to know how they're feeling, it's written in their body language.
cour 2*
@@ErikaBernLambda Lets be real. This is season 2. I kinda hate recent trend with those season 1 part 2. Or Season 1 cour 2. Like. Why? What the reason for that? They are essentially treated like different season, every streaming service separates them like different seasons and they sell on different disks too. They have their own trailers. So if they separate why then not treat them like actual seasons instead of pretending they are not?
It's surprisingly similar to western filmaking in animation and live action which is much more subtle and nuanced.
@@Altmer353 netflix puts them in the same series but the reason for part 1 and part 2 is mostly because of cost and budget, having seperate parts gives the studio more money and more time to work on the anime, sure if its some bullshit over the top anime that pays 0 attention to detail whatsover than having 2 parts is bullshit but 86 is the opposite of that, the amount of tiny details in the anime is insane, from the body languange, to the rails, crows and flowers even to the music covers
The thing that gripped me most about 86 was that it felt like a genuine look into an alternative fascist reality that really understood both how that would work and why it was bad while not simply directly referencing real historical/present-day events. There were, of course, parallels to historical atrocities, but the story was less of an allegory for a specific one and more of an exploration into what fascism as an ideology does to a society. It reminds me of FMA in that sense, where it takes the ideology and uses it as a pillar to tell a new story. And it doesn't shy away from the harder aspects of that stuff, either. It not only examines the violence and death that come as a result but the real human toll this kind of society has on its people in both ways that are obvious and subtle. This is one of the best political drama anime I've ever watched.
The earlier seasons of Attack on Titan ask similar questions about if there are conditions under which fascism is justified (ie when up against overwhelming threat). It's a very interesting field of study; with AoT suggesting fascism eats itself in the end. I wonder where 86 is going.
I don't think you understand what fascism is. From what I understood, fascism is state unionism for Italy and doesn't actually have racism in the base of its ideology like Nazism (National socialism) which takes from Jews and other races noted to be lesser to fund it's German people/the nation since it's a totalitarian state. So I think the story is far more like National Socialism.
@@Cecil97 Right, Nazism is totally not fascism because fascism only comes from Italy, just like Dominos isn't pizza and Starbucks doesn't have real espresso. Ideologies can cross borders and be renamed, but that doesn't change what they fundamentally are. Italizan fascism and Nazism are both fascism as we use the term today.
If I'm wrong in my interpretation of your comment and your insistence on referring to Nazism as "National Socialism", I apologize, but you should educate yourself on why the Nazis claimed to be socialist (but very much were not), how many industries the Nazis privatized, and the effects that had on German society.
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@@Auricthunder Cecil isn't incorrect and I think you realize this, you are acknowledg there is a local minority that wants to call everything they just like fascism regardless of what they are talking about.
Mussolini's fascism called for a more direct merger of state and business. In national socialism the state indirectly controls businesses. It's similar to how the CCP claims that it's large corporations are privately owned, yet they all seem to have a party member on the board and they all do what the party tells them to do.
Also I've noticed a lot of people in here seem to think that authoritarian racist somehow automatically means fascist. The USSR, the CCP, these are both communist governments that have no problem being racist and causing genocide.
The reality in 86 is we just know that it's some sort of ethnic authoritarianism. We don't know anything about their economic structure, it could mercantilism for all we know.
There are multiple forms of the government that are undesirable I wish people would expandable vocabulary.
@@woodchuck003 First let's discuss whether Cecil was correct in distinguishing Italian fascism vs Nazism. While the Nazis definitely took racial superiority to the extremes, Italian fascism and Mussolini as a person also promoted antisemitism and very notable persecution of ethnic Slavs as part of their ideology, including war crimes, concentration camps, the whole shebang. I do not think Cecil's distinction between the two is relevant to the discussion so I stand by my first comment's criticism. I don't think we know enough about San Magnolia's economic and business structures to know whether it was closer to Italian or German fascism, but it's not a particularly salient point because...
The next discussion is whether San Magnolia was actually fascist and I agree with you that it probably isn't (I'm an anime-only viewer so far, so maybe the LNs have more info). The main tenets of fascism also include traditionalism, anti-intellectualism, and machismo that are absent in the fictional San Magnolia. I would say we don't even know that San Magnolia is authoritarian by definition, since we don't know much about the government or leadership of the society outside that it is oppressively racist towards a minority. A good analogy would be slavery-era USA, which had similarly strict institutionalized racism but was not itself a fully authoritarian government.
As for the world today, I don't know which minority you're referring to that calls things fascism, as that perjorative comes from both sides of the aisle at least in American politics. Modern fascism definitely exists but you're right that the label isn't always accurately applied. There is also a significant group of people who claim everything they don't like is socialism and that was my main annoyance, intended or not, with Cecil's comment.
Surprised that this anime hasn't been in a lot of people's list of top anime of 2021 even if there were a flurry of great shows that came out along side it.
The reason is simple. I didn't watch it.
@@alexisdogbo7958 Same honestly. I was busy watching Ranking of Kings, Odd Taxi, Link Click, Mushoku Tensei, TYE so I didn't get the chance to watch 86, Vivy and other shows I potentially missed out on.
Too many good anime. And mecha isn't too popular in general unless it's Gundam or Eva
@@Ash_Wen-li I heard a LOT of people talking about 86 so it's fair to say that it was quite popular.
@@shadowlightning6590 Yeah, but there's plenty of people that straight out refuse to watch shows because they are mecha
It's super cool that in the light novel they have mechanical design pages for the different mechs. Including specs and dimensions as well as things like ammo type and size. Not to mention a drawing that shows the design of all the mechs that are piloted or controlled by the legion. There's also the written description that tends to explain use-case or other details. I love that they put this much effort in to think of and explain these little details.
and to think this was supposed to be a one off novel...
No way, that's so damn cool!! I love authors who imagine and design things and characters with all the specs in mind to give them specific purposes and abilities!
I remember seeing the morpho on that spec page and i was like HOLLY SHIT I KNEW IT WAS BIG BUT THAT BIG!!!?? Those pages really help worth with the weight that the imagery of the story wants to give to you. When shins fighting the morpho, because you saw the image of it in its specs page in the beginning of the volume, you know exactly how it looks like and that gives way for you to see how it can potentially move, turn around, and even its presene throughout the fight as a deadly threat.
@@mr.applejuice8546 I need to reread some. Don't remember that. I think I finished the 3rd or got busy before the end of it. I actually have up to the 7th or 8th novel whatever's available in English I just haven't had the chance to catch up.
Watching the anime got me hype to read em tho cuz it's all virtually the same as how I feel reading it.
@@lebotix2533 definitly would recommend it. Im personally in volume 5 and the only main reason im behind right now is because ive gotten hooked on "the empty box and zeroth maria"
Really loved the complex societal analysis told through an apparently basic story and the amazingly well-written character that is Lena. Her evolution from quite naive and goody-two-shoes, to sheer devotion to save everyone, throught the hopelessness of understanding that the horror you are fighting against is the foundation of the system you are living in. I truely cried at the scene where she crumbles in public while realizing this. Was a bit disappointed to see her less in part 2, but it was understandable storywise.
This analysis can also be made IRL for threats other than fascism and racism, especially the ones caused by climate change and the biodiversity crisis, where the actions you are trying to make seem inconsequential against the magnitude of the changes needed to give humanity a chance.
Nothing about 86 is complex or nuanced, and drawing parallels is a level of detachment from reality that I would suggest you see a therapist for.
@@BobNinjaCat Sorry for using my brain, please enlighten me with better recommendations then. Also my mental health does not concern you.
@@BobNinjaCat 🤓🤓🤓
@@agroecho-alexandreleblanc7207 You aren't using your brain, though. You're reading context into content that has nothing you claim it does. It's the same level of delusion as people who think Slenderman is real.
@@BobNinjaCat you literally explained that you are delusional 😂
One of my favorite things about 86 is the subtlety. I may be wrong about this but as far as I'm aware there's a detail that's never explicitly stated until the second season. It is only implied to you by the fact that Shin retrieves everyone's insignia by carving it out with a knife. That is that, while they are called tanks, the Juggernauts are not armoured. Stated outright in the second season when the republic's analysts talk about how insane the Republic must be for sending people out in what equates to "aluminum coffins."
The second thing I love most about this, specifically from season one is that the director really knows how to control your emotions. Even when the members of the cast we actually get more involved with die, he held me back. Daiya for example, after the battle you don't actually get to see Anju grieve and that kept me from feeling much. At the time it felt wrong to me, almost a wasted opportunity for emotional connection. You never get to see ANYONE grieve, it's only ever implied. Then they hit you with the straight cut from dancing under the cherry blossoms to that *clunk* noise during Fido's montage. They didn't use it in episode 5 but I think there was a specific choice made that no other door in the show makes the same sound. When you heard that door close during Fido's montage you knew exactly where this was, when this was, and your heart sank. Fido turns around to look at who it is, and then finally you are allowed to cry for the lovers.
86 is the least subtle show, no, piece of literature I've ever seen in my life. Every single episode felt so forcibly focused on its themes that I never felt any emotional connection to what was happening or any of its characters.
@@pagatryx5451 you were probably too focused on the more than obvious stuff. I don't blame you, it seems that's the case with a lot of people... Or maybe you do see the subtle things, but the obvious parts annoy you so much you just don't care about the rest. It's probably a matter of taste 🤷🏻♂️.
But this show does have a huge, *huge* amount of tiny details that often make it worth it to watch an episode two or more times, it is extremely well directed.
@@pagatryx5451 Some things are subtle, some things aren't. That's all writing. A story can't be entirely told subtly. I will agree the overt themes are a bit too overt, but i was talking about the details of the world, not the themes.
@@pagatryx5451 Finally somebody gets it.
One thing I noticed is that a lot of the criticism for 86 comes from the first cour, which is basically a prologue. The show has massive change in plot, character and themes in the second half
I got bored early into the second cour.
@@lorddashdonalddappington2653 Tbh having read the LN, the 2nd cour is meant to be binge watched. Watching it on a weekly basis really takes the charm out of it since its mostly about character development setup for future volumes.
@@lorddashdonalddappington2653 I appreciated the character progression and world building which the show really needed. It really opened up a lot of themes to explore like how many soldiers find difficulty in returning to a civilian life
I was hearing so many praises for cour 2 until the delays striked it
That was one of the things that kind of got me, in retrospect: That cinematic pacing between them reminded me of Band of Brothers; the relative calm that you could call prologue if you weren't so invested, between the Normandy landing and Market Garden. That eerie calm when you really meet everyone before all hell breaks loose lasts several episodes, and works, at least for me, like Band of Brothers.
For me, I first became aware of 86 after hearing that Hiroyuki Sawano (one of my favourite Japanese composers) was helping with some of the film score. And as someone with almost 10yrs as a weeb & having watched over 800 different anime series (of various types), I was really blown away by the first episode when it aired (something that rarely happens nowadays). If anything, I was hooked, and it became one of the few animes that I was willing to watch as it aired. I'm personally not a big mecha fan, so it was surprising to see how quickly I became emotionally attached. I think the real turning point for me was Episode 4 (Real Name), which encouraged me to seek out the Light Novels (my spiralling down a rabbit hole moment). Reading the light novels gave me better insight into the world of 86 & level of depth Asato Asato had put into the story. As a history buff & someone with a passion for philosophy, I really appreciated the fact that the author had really taken the matter seriously by putting a lot more focus into the realism of warfare & the controversially related topics, than on that of story drama. It was also cool to see her draw a lot of inspiration from modern warfare (mainly WW2), particularly when it came to the weapons and tactics used.
It's interesting how the reason why 86's storyline so closely resembles Modern warfare, likely has something to do with the fact that Asato Asato was first inspired to write 86 because of 21st-century drone warfare (as she explained in an interview).
I became aware of Hiroyuki Sawano via Re:Creators and eventually found out he did the Soundtrack for Seven Deadly Sins, Attack on Titan and the more popular pieces he had helped compose, which convinced Me to watch 86 in the end. The story, action, and the good stuff for 86 is what sealed the deal for Me.
Didn't he do Legend of the Galactic Heroes too? It's insane. His work is good enough I listen to it sometimes without watching teh anime
the scene where Shin first sees Lena in person is easily one of my top 10 scenes in anime (definitely the top 1 from 2021). AND THE MUSIC!
the word you're looking for Lena action within the early episode is called Armchair Activist. put it simply, "those people that only wanted to say about a certain issue. however, doesn't do anything for that said issue" in the words of Raiden "Typical Politician... Big Promises, but all talk."
Or as max0r had him say it:
"Typical politician. All cock, but no cum"
Ok, the truth then.
@@awdrifter3394 nice reference
haha, the elite upperclass deciding that a threat to all of our mutual existences isn't a threat to them personally or something they need to directly aid in addressing as it continually drives the less fortunate out of home, land and life approaching an inevitable doomsday clock as the rich handwave it...
Man, I just can't relate to this story.. it's so incredibly different to our realworld experience...
They’re clearly more interested in completing the genocide than they are in winning the war, which yeah, checks out historically.
It just means you're fortunate. Be happy you can't relate.
@@vitoriadias7990 not sure if you're missing my sarcasm, or I'm missing yours.
the cosmic ballet, goes on.
@@vitoriadias7990 r/whoooosh
13:48 This line of dialogue right here is what so many people get wrong about racism. It's not just about the _overt_ things that are considered racism, but the subtle; how it becomes a part of people's everyday lives so seamlessly that unless they actively understand it that aspect of racism is completely cloaked to them. Many don't understand they are being racist even if they aren't actively _trying_ to be racist. And when called out on that some become defensive, which only makes the situation worst. It's also the part that others try to consciously hide from the world. If the populace at large understood not just the overt, but the _foundation_ of the corrupt society it would cause the power structure to fall apart. This is how racism truly affects people and the only way to deal with that is to show people that racism is far more than the conscious understanding of it, but it's unconscious underpinnings.
Can you give me an example of what you mean?
@@treacherousjslither6920
An example would be was once when I was talking to a friend of mine he told me that he walked by a group of black boys hanging out at the corner. My friend told me he froze up the moment he saw that group... even though they had done nothing to threaten him nor had my friend done anything that might warrant such caution. He simply frozen and took on a defensive posture. After walking by he realize the boys were on their phones, just goofing off. He felt kind of ashamed and asked me if he was being racist. I told him that no, _he_ wasn't being racist, but his response was. He became defensive in that situation not because of any actual threat, but the perceived misunderstanding of a threat. Even if he didn't consciously know it, just the thought of a bunch of black boys in a group doing something he couldn't explain at first sent a response in him that something was wrong. And mind you, even that isn't _inherently_ wrong, but a mindset like that can lead to worse situations if that's you first response to a situation. It's an _ingrained_ response that's not in-of-itself wrong, but it still wrong in general. My friend is a decent person who if you walked up to him you could have a good conversation with; hell we're constantly talking about how some anime are too PG sometimes. So what he did in that situation doesn't make him a bad person, but it can still further erode people's understanding on why something can be racist. The difference is that he was conscious of what he did and asked about it; but not everyone is. Even a nice person might not realize what they are doing is wrong and then their efforts only help to compound a bad, societal situation.
@@andrewowens4421 Thanks for taking the time to reply to me. Interesting situation. Has your friend ever had that response to a similar situation with members of others races and also his own?
@@treacherousjslither6920
Can't say for sure, as that was the only time he confided in me. I guess he felt guilty and needed someone to talk it over with. So I can't say for certain if he's had similar situations and I didn't feel comfortable prying.
@@andrewowens4421 And then there are people who don't use common sense just so they get viewed as "racists". One woman in Portland saw a black man walking towards her with a chainsaw and she didn't even move and ended up getting seriously hurt. You can always apologize if you offend someone but don't stop using common sense. You could tell she was scared but didn't move because she didn't want to discriminate😂. What a dummy
Having done the war thing and come home to deal with the physical and mental scars, 86 was like a continuous series of punches to the gut. It really nails that mix of feelings that comes with fighting, and it does it better than anything except maybe Violet Evergarden.
Facts, I'll say 86 does the best to show the mental game of soldier still in combat and what they have to do to stay alive and as sane as they can. While Violet Evergarden best shows coming home from war and transitioning from military life to civilian life plus all the mental baggage that you bring back from war.
@@johnusas2870 Agreed.
Violet Evergarden was a truly emotional roller coaster. It was really hard to watch sometimes, but so good.
Now I'm very curious about what you think about the new season that came out (although it's actually the second part of the first season). I personally enjoyed it, but I'm just a civilian so I don't have the extra perspective that you and @john USAS have.
@@peterfmodel I'm man enough to admit I cried three times watching Violet Evergarden; episode 10 that's self explanatory. Episode 11 from being in the military and writing letters to friend in family in case I didn't come back home from deployment and seeing her deliver the letters delivered and seeing the falsies reaction hit way too close to home and what could have been. And then the movie with the phone scene, if you know you know.
Several thoughts.
1: RIP to Shinei Nouzen's English VA. He passed away yesterday from Colon Cancer. Rest well, Undertaker.
2: I am part of a wargaming club that developed our own gaming system called Combat Patrol and I made a mecha supplement that can use any mecha out there and this includes spider tanks. I plan on running a game soon that pits a platoon of soldiers (3 squads of 8 troops, Russian style command) and my 30 Minute Mission models against a US style platoon ( 3 squads, 6 fire teams) and my Juggernauts with maybe my Aoshima 1:48 armed slaves for support. Maybe.
I could get more 30MM models and go all legion on the table top.
Oh, new thought. I SO HOPE they make the legion as kits. I would love to have a Dinosauria and Lowes, Ameise, Grauwolf. The self-propelled mines would be neat to have as well but scary.
WHAT. thats sad. RIP to him
Nah bro the va didn't die he still alive
@@C0ldCrims0n Billy Kametz did die back in June 2022.
So I just finished it, 10/10 what a masterpiece. It’s my 5th 10/10 outta 540 series. It’s a must watch.
What are the other 4
I'm also curious about your other 4 😅
WHAT ARE THE OTHER 4 10/10???
Still waiting for the top 4 😩
leaving this comment until he comments his top 4
I love this video, as a big mecha fan (I'm one of those UC nerd you mentioned) I was excited by the premise of 86 from the moment it was announced and boy, did they deliver. Your analysis of the show was as always very good, you hinted many plot points without spoiling them altogether and highlited the strong points of the story. While it was a shame that there wasn't much analysis on the varied cast of the show beside the main protagonists (like for example henrietta could have been used as another great example on how racism is seen as a "normal" behaviour by the albians) I understand that main objective of the video is explaining the great worldbuilding, so it's fine.
I always struggle convincing my friends to watch mecha animes, since they know I'm a gundam/go nagai fan and I see anything slightly related to mecha, but I'm sure this video will help me get the message across and make them watch this show, because it sure as hell deserves some more recognition.
On a side note, the image at 10:28 made me really tear up, why should you remind me of best doggo?
I'm assuming you've watched code geass?
That part of the anime really pull on the heart 😭
Except the mecha are absolute dogshit design in this anime. Ugly spider tanks? Really, that’s the best they could come up with?
@@networknomad5600 Spider/scorpions and a lot other insect-based. And it's neat.
@@networknomad5600 i think they're supposed to be ugly because the republic cant be bothered with equipping the 86 with actual stable weapons
I want the second season to finish. But this series is definitely a masterpiece imo. It's something that has it all. The characters are compelling and there motivations stay consistent. Unlike other sci fi that have come out in the last 5 years
I’m pretty sure the last 2 episodes come out in March
@@davidmcfarland8491 yup march 12 and march 19 are officially the last two episodes of s1.
Does anyone know why the huge delay? I honestly thought that was it for this season, leaving it there felt very odd being how well they timed the episodes and the story as a whole but... Its been like a month, so I figured that was it. Glad to know I was wrong, what's left should be a really great payoff (yes I read the light novels)
@@JeffDvrx production issues pretty much. It's unfortunate but the second cour was rushed by Aniplex hence why there was 1 recap episode and 1 review episode with the cast. In the end, they ran out of timeslots on television and were forced to push back the last two episodes to the next open timelslots which were march 12 and march 19. Hope that explains it a bit better. I still think A1 pictures did a fantastic job on the second cour despite the rushed schedule but unfortunately couldn't keep up with some of the episodes. ( I may have missed some things or got some things wrong but that's the basic gist of it as far as I'm aware)
Will second season cover up the whole story?
Eighty-Six got me into Light Novels. I've been watching anime since my childhood but nothing has ever come close to getting me into the LN's as 86 did. It's believable worldbuilding, atmosphere and well-executed action scenes, drama, tension building like you said are a masterclass. It's easy to dismiss this show as "Just another mecha" show from a far perspective but when one gets to know and comprehend each scene shown to them, it really hits hard. The symbolism, the subtle hints from the dialogues, and the tone brought to life by the voice actors speaking them were just some of the best performances I've ever heard. I loved the recap episodes, too, ESPECIALLY 11.5 where they introduced "Voices of the Chord", a song that I can only describe as getting beat up in a bar, thrown out and then getting beat up again.
the part of this show that really got me hooked was the voice acting when you meet Frederica her voice actor absolutely kills every line
Everybody wants a call sign, until people only calls them by their call sign
God damn episode 23 is a real tear jerker. I don't think I have cried at an anime this much before. I need a second/third season.
Its rumored that a 3rd (or 2nd depending on how youre counting) is greenlit allthough nothing has been confirmed yet
@@ilksral3815 Can I have a link to those rumors? Don't get me wrong, I WISH we can get a new season (and even better if we can get the full light novel adapted) but I haven't been able to find anything about a new season.
For the tabletop game, if someone can do this then please do so:
1. Decide on a number of landscape elements: 1 story ruined building, 2 story ruined building, ruined skyscraper, clear field, hill, mountain, etc.
2. Make a random field generator program to set up a map design based on the inputted difficulty rating so you can either use it as the battlefield for a digital version of the table top or replicate it on a physical tabletop using metal blocks.
(Do this for every battlefield)
3. Players are given a number of juggernauts with different stats based on the operators they build upon. (Could be one juggernaut per player if many players are involved, or multiple juggernauts per player if otherwise.) If they have multiple juggernauts, they can name their own squadrons.
4. Dice rolls for movement check, hit check, dodge check, damage check, critical check, juggernaut decommission check, operator death check. Let's use the idea of magnets so the models can stick to any surface, using terrain for cover or altitude advantage for critical and hit bonus.
5. For Obstruction checks between shooter to target where multiple buildings or terrain may block attacks, an extendable stick can be made to confirm if a hit is possible.
6. Each legion killed will give experience to the operator/s under the player based on the map design difficulty, battle difficulty (Based on total value of legions deployed) and the type of legion killed. Players can then manually allocate stats to their operators once they level up.
7. Juggernauts that are decommissioned will not be able to move but the operator can be rescued by another juggernaut. The operator rescued will be unavailable for the rest of the battlefield but can join in the next battlefield.
8. Operator deaths are permanent.
(After every battlefield, map design difficulty should be increased by 1 and the number of legion units should be in the discretion of the DM. Each Legion type will have its own value, base stats, skills, and weapons and are controlled by the DM. It should be noted that at normal battle difficulty with 1x exp multiplier should have a total legion value equal to the total juggernaut value. Each point of increase in the legion value should increase battle difficulty exp multiplier.)
9. The campaign can continue indefinitely, until all operators are dead, or specific end goals are met.
10. Weapons, armor, and ammunition are the same across all juggernauts but each operator can pick 3 skills from a built-in skill pool. Then dice rolls can determine which tier of each skill they get.
Example: Player chooses: Double Attack Skill, Double Movement Skill, and Marksman Skill. There will be 3 tiers of each of these and the player should roll a 12 sided die with 1-6 resulting in a low tier, 7-10 resulting in a mid tier, and 11-12 resulting in a high tier. For Double Attack, a low tier will have 60% damage on each attack, a mid tier will have 75% damage on each attack, and a high tier can have 100% damage on each attack.
11. Once an operator reaches every 5th level, a player can choose a new skill and every 10th level, a player can additionally upgrade 1 skill to a higher tier. If none are upgradeable, the operator will retain that chance for future skills obtained.
12. If a session somehow ends without ending a battlefield, the next session must be played with the same players at least until that battlefield is ended. New players can join the next battlefield or previous players can opt out of it but only before the map is generated.
More ideas are welcome and if in the off chance you are interested in more of my thoughts about this or want my cooperation in the making of this, let me know.
As someone who has read the LN I’m really glad they nailed the adaptation, and it’s coming from A-1 of all places, just look at what they did with SAO.
The entire Alicization arc was good though
Dude A-1 is top TOP tier.
@@JeffDvrx except when they make LN adaptations lol.
Dude exactly what I thought! But they adapt this one very well so I'm truly glad
@@izmedyan The fact that it didn’t have an Alfheim Arc already put it head and shoulders above the other content lol
I love when this kind of deeply immersive world gets so much attention, I adored every single aspect of the show, the music, the acting, the animation, even the recap episodes were great. It really got me down to know of the delay of the last episodes before the last one was premiered, but when I watched the last episode.I was so exited to know how everything would unravel that I'm more than willing to wait months to get such an amazing story.
watched this anime after this video and man do I have to say it's still stuck in my head. This show was absolutley fantastic.
Hell yeah, I needed a video to watch while I had my dinner and this is just what I needed. I love mechas and 86 is really good so far
Although it surely isn't required - i so wish for a continuation. One of the best anime i ever watched with a amazing soundtrack.
Hey, just came back to thank you after whatching the whole show, and finished this video. This is a great review, and i found my return to watching anime because of this show, and your "recomendation". Thanks, i cryed a lot during it lmao
The show filled a gap I was desperately trying to fill. The need for an actually good Mecha anime that takes the severity of war and it's consequences seriously similar to what some Gundam has done before. 86 has done it for me for the first time in years and when it's complete it will stand as one of the best Mecha shows in history.
At least there's no ecchi scenes ... well until the shovels
2 years late but Code Geass if you haven’t watched it does an insane job at what you’re looking for
Started watching this show today because of this video. It truly is incredible, thank you so much for making this video and sharing your love of it with us!
So, I am a new fan of the show. I admittedly watched the anime before reading the light novel. However, this series was the first one that made me actively want to read the source material. The combination of racial issues and the military structure drew me in, and I can’t wait to see where it goes
Me too.
First LN I ever read.
@@vitoriadias7990 same
One other element I'd like to highlight is the question the series asks which is, "How far is a nation willing to go to to fight a war and whom are we willing to sacrifice for the cause?" As an American, I saw a lot of parallels between 86 and the US military post Vietnam. Since the draft was removed and the military was converted to a professional army, the personnel makeup has basically shrunk to a few kinds of people (ex. military families or poor folks trying to pay for college) creating a large civ-mil divide. Growing up post 9/11 America, you just learn to live with forever wars because for most of us (myself included) war's barely an inconvenience. It's only when something major happens that directly affects us in the homeland that we suddenly care, at least just for a while.
Another interesting point in this being a commentary on American militarism
The 86 were originally segregated by "Presidential Order #6609." The Japanese-American internment camps in WW2 were created by Executive Order 9066.
there has never been a point in my life I can remember when america was not at war and I'm in my 30's now.
id imagine most of the country at this point doesn't have any memory of a time America was not at war
@@mothersbasementI’ve seen this show, it’s pretty cool but also generic. The human side is made well but the AI Skynet thing is so overdone and dreadfully fucking dull. No ai works like that. Even the near-braindead ai we have now has said it “sees no reason to hurt people” and I’m certain once that programming achieves greater intelligence than humans, it will think, “H1tler was really smart and correct and i should emulate that.” It’s basically the “athiests have no soul or morals so naturally they are psychopaths who love atrocities” stereotype all over again. The only ai who’s only action is murder is just broken. Maybe the Legion is, but that remains to be seen.
@@jakespacepiratee3740 The Legion AI in 86 is perhaps one of the most realistic takes I have actually seen in fiction, and I've seen a lot of "AI gone rogue" stories. They were built for the Empire of Giad's military to destroy all enemies of the Empire of Giad, but the Empire of Giad no longer exists; its government was overthrown by a revolution, and the revolutionaries were listed as enemies of the Empire of Giad, so the Legion is an army of drones fighting for an empire that no longer exists because it wasn't programmed to account for regime change. It's honestly really believable.
@@matthewmuir8884 it’s honestly not believable. So basically the ai so stupid it couldn’t realize that it’s empire has been overthrown but could coordinate millions of units effectively? Yeah ok.
Falling in love with this show was a whole experience for me. Like most of the people i know, I started the show with cautious optimism, not sure if I would like it since I'm not huge on mecha. By the end of the first episode, I had an appreciation for the sharp scene direction and the compelling characters and world. By the second episode, my eyes were wide at the truly incredible animation, especially the CGI integration. By episode 6, I was in love with the characters, and by episode 11 I was crying at the drop of a hat. I thought it was a truly impressive show and I was hyped for more.
Then the second cour dropped. And that's when I started noticing the subtle details, like the symbolism baked into the backgrounds of certain shots, the tiny details in the way the characters move and interact with their surroundings, and the careful attention put into the facial expressions and body language of the characters. I was in absolute awe. And at the end of episode 16, when they hit us with an ending scene that literally made my jaw drop, I finally broke and read the light novels.
In my opinion, this show is an example of a perfect adaptation. They turned the series into an anime that fully utilizes every advantage an animated series has to convey the same story, characters, and emotions that the novel captures through words alone. Every change made was carefully crafted and beautifully executed.
86 has become the standard that all other adaptations are going to be living up to for me. I'm looking forward to the final two episodes in March and I hope to god it gets renewed, but even if it doesn't, I feel truly blessed to have had the chance to experience this show.
the direction and production team for 86 is amazing aswell, the amount of tiny little details they included adds depth to its adaptation, scenes like the amount of flowers changing to tell the lost of a comrade or the amount of people left in the squad, or the changing of intros with less and less people included in the squad photo, to the never ending rail and the broken rail signifying lena's journey of catching up and final does in the last episode, or kurena's tiny step in between lena and shin in the final photo as a last ditch effort, these tiny details make this anime so great
Milize's definitely not straight scientist friend who probably also has a crush on her is another way the show LIGHTLY explores how San Magnolia is fucked in a way which kind of satirises how harsh some of japan's attempts to force up their falling birthrates have been? She's CONSTANTLY rejecting state-arranged marriages because the dudes are fucking assholes and instead hanging out with her one girl friend who she literally helps break the law on multiple occasions. (Not just that one time Milize kiinda blackmailed her... D:) And like yes at least she has the choice to reject all of these creeps, but also... she shouldn't be forced to see all of these people she's not interested in in the first place.
A thing to metion is that she was close friends with an colorata, after all the propaganda, she probably suffered a lot of bulling from her classmates, that bulling probably never stopped, that's an why all her pretenders are either desperate old men or childs too young to know.
She's not into her friend. She rejects the guys because they aren't the boy next door that she cared about and sold out. Who is apparently Shin. She has some mental hang ups long story short.
@@Mord12gp Eeeh IDK, all I know is I'm a lesbian and I definitely got some vibes from those two early on that were a lot closer than just gals being pals.
Those vibes did kinda die off after Milize did the blackmail shit though, for obvious reasons D:
@@000Dragon50000 There is a lesbian in the novels and she has appeared in the anime for abit and will probably be more prominent next season, but it's not Annette.
@@PositiviteaTheFirst Oh? Didn't even know there were novels tbh, and whilst I still think there's no straight explanation for milize and annete's interactions, happy to see there's someone a bit more explicit about it. (Also huh my first guess would be a bit of a spoiler for the current arc so spoilers beware)
Is it their current commander in this new country they ended up in? The former pilot lady?
Thank you so much for highlighting the creators. I find the production staff often gets overlooked or just condensed into "studio X"
Let's take a brief moment to appreaciate the soundtrack of 86 -Eighty Six-.
We all know Hirouki Sawano and Kohta Yamamoto are some of the greatest composers of this generation, but here they just kicked it out of the park.
THE ANSWER , Hands Up to the Sky, Voices of the Chord, Avid , EIGHTY-SIX , Shin , 4N.
There are just too many incredible songs in this series.
I'm pretty sure "Shin" and "4N" are the same tracks lol
Dude I haven’t seen enough people talking about this. Seriously the music elevates the anime to incredible heights, which helps when adapting a LN. When they played hands up to the sky during that Fido scene, I don’t think I’ve experienced those emotions before. Not even close
I think the whole playlist is just king... even the OPEDs...
Love the soundtrack especially the song Avid.
86 is one the few pieces of fiction I call an absolute masterpiece, the animation, storyline, world building, and the those goddamn ost's
by Hiroyuki Sawano. It doesn't appeal to much of an audience but those who are invested in it, know how much of an emotional ride this is. A-1 Pictures has done this piece of work with passion and perfection. I'm totally obsessed with this show and I'm very pleased that my anime taste is evolving as time passes. Really want this to be a long running show.
F*cking glory to the spearhead squadron!!
Watch more mecha.
@@mechamaniac1567 anime fan moment
@@thetohoapologist4240 Lel, now you butt in. 86 is as dead as any seasonal show.
@@mechamaniac1567 so is a ton of good shows. no point sustained
I love 86, it's perfectly Mecha for me. It ditches the absurdity of the bipedal Mecha. And yeah I'm fully obsessed with 86, to the point I own all of the Light Novel.
This show is phenomenal. A group of masters working at the top of their game. It is gorgeous to look at, constantly engaging to watch. I wanna put down a highlight in this comment, some great detail that really stood out but like… it’s just everything man.
Should I talk about the super interesting and engaging directing choice in the first half of the show to have each episode split into two portions, one where we’re in san magnolia and our only link with the processors is their voices over the para-raid, and then the other half where it’s reversed, and we’re living with the realities of this battle, and only the voice over the para-raid reminds us that there’s anything else.
Maybe I should talk about shin, and how he is such a heartbreaking protagonist, shouldering all the pain, not only from watching his comrades die, but from the fact that he has vowed to take them to the end, meaning there won’t be anyone left to carry him.
Maybe I could continue where this video gushed about how in depth and realistic the world-building is, paying painstaking attention to all the intricacies that would have built this world
Maybe I should talk about the exhilarating way the juggernauts move. How watching them fight makes me sit up at attention and watch, fully engrossed in how each of them moves and fights so quickly and frenetically.
Or maybe I should just tell you to go watch it. Do it. Even if you already have, watch it again. I think I’m gonna go do that right now. Just that good.
Watching this right now, such a brilliant show! Intense, emotional but also with moments of joy and happiness. Amazing stuff!!!
this here is a masterpiece in the making..
like the frst season alone.. atleast the episodes which had been released up until now had been thoroughly amazing..the direction, soundtracks and especially the character which seem 2 dimensional at start thoroughly get stretched to full extent especially cour 2 on how it gives a whole new aspect to the character drama in the series.. ngl i had to pick up the LN after the freakin cliffhanger at ep 21,and it just gets better and better
The last few episodes come out in a month (I think) and I cannot wait!
I got back into anime the year before last and watched the first episode while completely out of the loop and didn’t know what to expect. I was so moved i got my right arm tattooed of Lena and shin. The nuance of these characters and their dynamics (although completely different circumstances) is extremely relatable. Each of the characters has an odd ability to create such a relatability that is unparalleled in many animes or stories just in general. That alone is enough for it to be well deserving of all the praise and hype not even counting the so many other facets that have been clearly factored in and balanced in a way that’s truly refreshing. I appreciate the show for just being a good story and being honest in its animation and it’s limitations. Instead of just giving up and kind of putting it out and relying on its characters to drive the story, the production clearly made a decision (that they aren’t ufotable) to create an uncanny atmosphere i can only describe as comfortable and oddly believable. Now i know none of it is real but the way it portrays emotion through clearly thought out imagery, pacing, and sound dynamics is truly an unmatched masterpiece. I’ve gotten many people who aren’t traditionally into anime to watch demon slayer and they are blown away but those same people have put aside their love for flashy and endearing characters and genuinely fell in love with each character and connected with the setting and emotions that are created. This is my favorite anime and although I’ve watched it through 10 times you opened up new ways for me to look at it and i truly appreciate it. I hope this anime gets the recognition it truly deserves because the production and decisions are those that if it weren’t “just anime” and was portrayed live action in the same high rolling cast, it would be up for multiple awards.
As someone who was never really the biggest fan of War/Mech anime, i honestly didn't know what to expect from this show initially. It came up on Crunchyroll so i figured "eh ill give it a shot" .... Well i binged watched both seasons in 2 days and I can now say this show instantly made it into my top 5 all time. I ended up buying the LNs, bought the Bandai figures, and now try to recommend it to anyone and everyone. From the plot line to the character development to the music and art work this show honestly goes above and beyond.
Timed brilliantly for me just getting stuck into this series! Always look forward to your insight on any show I’ve enjoyed or am about to enjoy watching.
In a season jam packed with great shows it was still by far my number 1 for all the reasons you stated. I can still _feel_ the emotions that rose up in me as I watched the battle scene unfold to Kohta Yamamoto's "Spearhead" building from its opening drums into an epic symphony that wove together with the action to point where I literally jumped up and shouted "HOLY SHEEEEEEEET!! Things just got real! Yeah!" It is simply gripping!
This is legit, as a mech fan I was curious as to what was the buzz about 86 is, as I watch the whole series it keep me wishing nobody would die anymore, but damn every episode they kill a person you started liking. the end of season 1 episode 12 was a real tear jerker as one by one the last spear platoon die and the last stand of the MC and the regrets and efforts of the female MC was very impactful. but with season 2 it gave me hope for a better life for the 86's future the cliff hanger blue ball so much on episode 11 for the long wait for episode 12 of season 2 is on march.
My reating for 86
Season 1
10/10
Season 2
8-9/10
Season 2 got screwed with the delays.
So have you updated the season 2 score yet after the finale?
Thank you thank you thank you for making an 86 video. It's so good it's a shame that it's so underrated and unknown. It's become one of my favourite anime of 2021 and has a strong hold of my heart.
The penultimate episode of the first season's second cour was breathtaking in a production standpoint, it became my favourite episode so far. Not only is it emotionally stimulating but the cinematography, sound design, and animation is absolutely stunning.
Thank you very much for taking a closer look at this show, that I think gets often overlooked (like at the Anime Awards) or downplayed as simply "racism bad", when it actually provides a nuanced look at (systemic) racism.
Also, I think that the script is extremely tight and that no piece of dialogue is without purpose. You talked about the scenes with the pets as if they were just slice of life part, when they're actually used to give a deeper insight into the relationship between Lena and the Spearhead Squadron. The relationship between the Spearhead Squadron and the cat is the same as the relationship between Lena and the Spearheads. Because Lena subconsciously treats them as her pets who she takes care of after a long day of work, similar to how the Spearheads relax by messing around with the cat a little bit.
This is also mirrored with the name of the cat. The Spearheads think of the cat as their pet, as something subhuman that doesn't have such a thing as an inherent name, so they call it whatever they feel like based upon the cat's appearance or whatever book Shin was recently reading. The cat's name is volatile, because they don't see it as human. Likewise, Lena did initially not fully regard the Spearheads as fully human, because she did not ask for their proper names and instead called them by their unit name, which is based on a marking on their mechs, i.e. their visual appearance like with the cat.
This goes to show that you can't fully escape systemic racism, even if you honestly want to and attempt to circumvent it. Or in other words, this show is more than simply "racism bad", like so many of its critics throw at this show. And unfortunately it didn't really get the recognition it deserved at the Anime Awards from Crunchyroll or Reddit's anime subreddit. It's a well produced show with a tight script, lots of subtlety and symbolism.
This couldn't have been said any better.
That's not systemic racism at all though. That is a more psychological racism, ESPECIALLY concerning the cat part. You can escape systemic racism because we don't live in systemically racist countries? Or at least, I don't. In the UK, a report by a BLACK person concluded that systemic racism did not exist in the UK whilst societal and individual racism persisted. The man had his degree rescinded in response. Systemic racism is a very dangerous idea that many people don't truly understand and can, most definitely, be escaped. The funny thing is though, the people most vocal against their perceived 'systemic racism' tend to believe in CRT which would lead to the government becoming systemically racist due to the requirements behind CRT being specific about people's racial identities and equity. We're seeing the beginning of this in Canada. But it wouldn't be the first time that the more extreme left types have poorly thought out beliefs that cannibalize themselves... Systemic racism is just a buzzword nobody seems to understand.
Anyway, aside from the political stuff, in regards to the anime itself: I disagree. Unless the story is something like an isekai, these sorts of clever messaging are always included in basically every work and are always fun to find if you pay close attention. But they're actually quite meaningless to the quality of the story itself. My issue with the theme was that it was handled with so little subtlety it lost all emotional intent and complexity. There may have been more subtle notes included, but that doesn't change its dialogue, story, or its characters.
AOT does the whole thing but better, more subtly, and with more complexity. So just watch that instead?
The problem with the comparison is, in most modern countries like the US, there is actually no systemic racism, but rather, a pervasive myth of systemic racism. There are no laws in the US that apply to only a specific race, but there are plenty in San Magnolia (the processors are literally not recognized as human by law).
Now, there do exist racial disparities that may be due to historical actual systemic racism, but that is not systemic racism in itself; but rather merely a result of it.
@@hoominbeeing The Critical Race Theorists argue that it's BECAUSE the system doesn't define race that makes the system 'systemically racist'. They believe that white people are privileged and black people are victims and thus, the system is racist for the very fact that it's equal.
They then believe the best way to defeat this is by making a system that clearly defines race and favours certain ones, to overcome the invisible race differences.
It's really ludicrous and dangerous view, but one that is propagated by ignorance. Most just think because CRT is anti-racist it must be valid. Without understanding that pretty much everyone is anti-racist, they just have different methods of attempting to solve the problem. The most extreme one isn't the best one. I'd say about 1% of those that support CRT and the belief of systemic racism, actually understand CRT. Most are just morons.
@@pagatryx5451 How do you define CRT? And where do you get this definition from? From my observation, most leftoids just define CRT as acknowledging that history has an effect on the modern day in regard to racism, which I'm sure we all agree with.
This anime is totally amazing and the LN is incredible too
The story is amazing every episode feel different
Characters are really well written too and some episode are very emotional
And the big advantage of this anime is that the CGI is so well done that it doesn't seem CGI
Like all the mechs looks very fluid and not static
It's sad that it's really underated cuz it's an amazing show, A 1 pictures did a really good job adapting it
Definitely one of my favorite anime in term of story and animation for me and I hope for more seasons after the S2 end
This show has spoken to me from the first episode, the main character and how he carries his damage and PTSD, while still maintaining control of himself to still lead his squad. In one of the later episodes when he talked about how he felt like he died a long time ago, and is a ghost made me feel something gut wrenching and familiar.
I love this series so much, the first season made me pick up reading the light novels and they were so hard to put down. Plus, the author of the series seems like a huge dork that puts a lot of passion into the series.
This is literally my favorite anime at this point. The story is told so well, the music is great, the characters were excellent. It got to a point where the combat scenes were the least interesting part of the series whereas many anime use combat as their crutch. That's not to say that the combat in 86 was bad. It was great, but I loved everything else more.
Waiting for Episodes 22 and 23 has been murder as a Light Novel reader. Between this and Mushoku Tensei, last year was my favorite in anime. 86 is one of those rare shows where the anime only content has actually been 100% beneficial to the story. I have the highest respect for everyone who worked on this rendition but special shoutout goes to Kohta Yamamoto and Hiroyuki Sawano, the soundtrack was an instant buy for me. The track "hear my voice" is a 88 mm round straight to the feels.
Glad you were able to get this video officially cleared. I really want the feedback to be so great for this series that they have to adapt the whole thing (even if this current season is my favorite even in the Light Novels).
Hard agree on everything. I have zero doubts they'll adapt the whole thing, the anime did really well and they still have a ton of material to go through
@@JeffDvrx I think it's a 5 year kind of series if they commit to it now? I really hope they are gonna continue it...
In addition to your well-articulated analysis, I viewed 86 in a completely different way. But to explain how and why I viewed this show differently, I need to contextualize my experience as a person who was born and raised in Japan.
While I was born and raised in Japan, my parents immigrated to Japan from Bangladesh. This means that I am a child of immigrants in a country that is considered homogeneous by Europe and North America. While I would love to get into why Japan isn't homogeneous and how that claim is based on misusing data, that's not the point of my comment so I won't get into it right now.
You see, Japan traditionally has been horrible at depicting minorities and even fascism. Fascism in Japanese media has a history of being depicted neutrally or depicted as a "competent ideology". A lot of this has to do with the fact that Japan still refuses to acknowledge its past and a worrying number of people in Japan are at least sympathetic to fascists. Secondly, minorities in Japan despite being quite a large part of the Japanese population are often represented as stupid or airheaded. This trope has been especially common with people of European, African, and South Asian ancestry.
In that environment, we are lucky to get a good representation of minorities in Japan or media that tackles the topic of minority struggles in Japan. I think that 86 not only does minority representation well, it does it explicitly not only from a liberal framework but even from a leftist framework which from a right-leaning country like Japan, is undoubtedly an accomplishment. The anime also depicts fascism not from a sympathetic lens but from the perspective of reality, in that fascists are often racist, incompetent, and use minorities to fight their battles when push comes to shove. This is a common element between European fascism and Japanese Fascism. For instance, I see Lena as a stand-in for liberals in the sense that they are passionate about achieving justice but are comfortable in doing so from the framework of modifying the status quo. So one example of this is how Lena genuinely feels bad for the pilots but didn't even think to learn their individual names. The show explicitly calls out Lena and one of the major themes in season one is that it's not enough to oppose racism, you have to be proactive fight the entrenched political structure that enable the system in the first place. This was a major character arc for Lena especially, as we see Lena grow more and more hostile towards San Magnolia. This may be fairly normal for modern media in the US or Europe but in a country like Japan, this is absolutely not the case.
Of course, huge portions of media are political and I'm not saying that media that is political is inherently good. The aspect of 86 that is great in 86 lies in how it depicts politics and doesn't hide its political message. Other shows delve into politics for sure. Hell, other shows also can represent the topic of minority representation and even the topics of genocide well as FMAB has done. But even for FMAB, the solution ultimately was encased in the sphere of the modification of the status quo rather than a radical change to said status quo. The same can be applied to Code Geass, Iron-Blooded Orphans, etc. But 86 is a departure from that. Not only is the destruction of San Magnolia treated as a neutral event, even in season two, the leader of the Giad even said something like "If we are unable to live by these ideals, but we also don't deserve to exist".
Now, it's worth noting that I don't necessarily agree with everything 86 says in their themes, but my point is that 86 explores a radical side of politics not through a liberal lens but from a leftist lens and that is exceedingly rare and that in itself is a huge accomplishment in Japanese media. It's one of the reasons I actually enjoyed season one over season two. In short, 86 is a critique of Japanese fascism, European fascism, and North American fascism but more importantly, it's a critique of liberalism and of liberal societies for its tendency to attempt to keep the status quo. This to me is the most interesting aspect of 86 and makes the show truly one of a kind.
@@missplainjane3905 I'm Japanese.
@@missplainjane3905 Sure! I hope you don't mind wordy answers, But feel free to add more questions or we can have a more in-depth conversation through discord or something if the conversations get too wordy here.
1. I think Japan is a highly developed country but in terms of advancement, I guess it depends on what you mean. Japan is great in terms of its technology. Everything from buying train tickets, buying groceries, paying taxes, using and utilizing public transport, and just living, in general, feels comfortable and intuitive. However, Japan is lacking in a few key aspects, one, women's rights are still behind Western Europe, two, LGBTQ+ rights, and minority rights are also lacking. Though the good news is we are slowly catching up to Western Europe and North America over time.
2. In terms of technology, Japan is probably top-notch. There is one complaint I would make about the tech aspect though. Credit and debit cards are still not widely used so it may become inconvenient if you don't carry money around. So 9/10?
Food-wise, I like Japanese food but that also might be because I grew up in the country. In terms of diversity of foods, you will find authentic food from other countries too if you live in cities like Tokyo, Osaka, and Kyoto. Japanese food has lots of seafood but even if you don't like seafood, there are lots of options within Japanese cuisine.
So you might think that Japan being a technologically advanced country means that Japan doesn't have lots of nature. But that's actually not true. Japan has lots of pretty scenery even if you live in a city, you will have access to lots of green areas. And I'd also recommend visiting rural Japan as well since most tourists only visit the cities. Don't get trapped in tourist traps and actually look for cheaper places. If you are paying more than 500 yen (slightly less than $5 USD) for a single serving of ramen, the chances are, you might be getting charged too much. The quality of living is extremely high, but I would say that it's much better to live in Kobe, Osaka, instead of Tokyo because Tokyo can be really pricey. So overall food would be a 7/10 and the scenery would be like 8/10. Climate-wise, it rains a lot more than most other countries so if you don't like dreary rain whether you might have a tougher time. Otherwise, you get a diverse set of temperatures from being hot and humid in Hiroshima, Okinawa to cold and snowy in Hokkaido.
3. This might be the trickiest question so far. Let's see: Safe, convenient, and flawed.
I don't know if I was able to sufficiently answer the questions.
Are your parents bangladeshi???
Cause i am bangladeshi
Just wanna know
@@lopentare8934 yep! My parents immigrated Japan from Bangladesh and I was born and raised in Japan.
@@missplainjane3905 I would say it's quite popular in Japan. Japanese people themselves know how popular anime is both domestically and abroad. It's very popular.
One thing to note, however, is that anime in the Japanese context doesn't just mean Japanese animation. It includes both Japanese and western animation. Regardless, it's popular and nowadays, anime studios seem to cater to both markets.
An extremly deep series analysed by one of the biggest brains of the youtube anime community? Sign me up!
Jokes aside, I adore this video, from the explanations, to the vocabulary employed and the different facets of the show tackled, this is amazing.
To be fair, I've had the best Immersion within in an Anime from 86. The world building and atmosphere is really good with some likeable characters and the show constantly makes you not to grown too attached to a single character. No cheesy tropes, just pure Immersive Racially based War Mecha Anime that I really liked.
Just finished watching the last 2 episodes, and this would probably be the mech anime that I will not stop talking about for my entire life like what Eva and Gundam did to the previous generation of mecha hardcore weebs 86 will be that one anime for me, I finally understand on why there are people who are so vocal with those anime because of how much depth, care, and attention the production crew did on those mech anime. 86 was one of those, I still think that 86 is a bit underrated last season blocked by other big time anime airing at the time. But thankfully that 2 months delay was worth it for the last two episodes to air. Giving the anime the spotlight it needed to end.
I'm just excited for a season 2/3? For 86 that last episode just shed a tear on my eye, that totally scene was the pay-off that I needed after watching it all from the start.
MB's Review on 86 was everything that I wanted to hear, most especially at the tatical aspect of 86, design, cinematography, little details that caught my attention... MB just mentioned them all it was satisfying.
The light novel of this anime was said to be really good as well so perhaps it is time for me to take a small peak on Vol.4 hopefully no spoilers lol.
I watched 86 for the first time a few weeks ago. Then I rewatched it this week. Now I’m going to pick up the light novels. 😌
The commentary on war and discrimination is just so nuanced. I’m genuinely surprised that the author got it *so right*. Then, of course, there’s the emotions it puts you through - “I don’t want to die” aside, the Fido montage had me simultaneously laughing and sobbing???
Light novel are free on internet now but less pictures but that’s for people like me tbh lmao
For 3-5 years I did not watch any anime, but I had a lot of free time this weekend/holiday so I watched it. I wanted to read it first, but I watched it instead. I had to say, the visuals, the sounds, the story, man even the dog/robot are fenomenal. It has that punch that makes me wanna watch it again, and again, and again. But man, the feels that this show has, is insane. It is everything that is worth watching anime for.
It also covers veteran PTSD and survivor's guilt impeccably. Watching the first cour had me immediately start binging the LN's up to the furthest released. Also many-legged mechs are more realistic and (in my opinion) cooler to watch fight.
This anime was soo good is an understatement. Not a big fan of modern mecha anime but this one really touched my heart and kept pulling the heartstrings throughout. Shall remember it for a long time unlike most animes i enjoy. Must watch and def recommend
I've been watching anime for the better part of 12 years now, and everytime I think 'this is it, it doesn't get better than this', the industry somehow, someway, proves me very very wrong. But I can honestly say that I can count on a singular hand the number of shows that have made me immediately start buying up the source material as quickly as humanly possible. I am absolutely obsessed with this series as well, and I literally don't know what to do with myself until March 12th.
In other words, 86 is just built different.
You could say *it hits different*
I started buying the LN immediately after watching the first cour but I can't find volumes 1 and 4 anywhere to buy online. And here I am reading them using wordreference app in my phone as a "crutch" because I'm from Spain and they are the first books I've read in english since my High School years (I'm 40 btw xD).
well 86 does hit different just like VE's ep10... and also it's arts... this is quality CG...
If you liked this show i would suggest you try The Sky Crawlers (2008). IN some ways its similar and has a real punch. Not as much action however, more the emotional aspect and the mystery.
Couldn’t even get halfway through the video cuz you sold the show to me so well. Gonna have to watch it before I finish this video lmao
The episode about FIDO was so fucking brutal & good. I love that this show made me cry about a helper droid's perception of war.
Your thoughts on the 17.5 was right on the ball, i went into it expecting some awkward shilling but no!
We get to hear just how much the VAs loved acting out the Characters. How they imprint some of their own personalty in the performances and in-depth character dynamics i didn't even consider.
i loved this show, its been the only anime that almost made me cry over each character death, and towards the end of the first season. its hard to not get attached to each character. though my favorite character is Theoto Rikka
So happy you made this video. It hasnt even started yet and im watching an ad but 86 was truly a refreshing and beautiful anime
Been waiting for this video for so long. 86 has been such a great show so far and the light novels are an amazing read.
I am not an anime viewer but I stumbled upon 86 and became quickly fascinated. As French, I cannot help but draw many parallels between San Magnolia Republic and ... the French Republic during the WWI period. Asato Asoto, the LN writer (that I started to read) got so many things right about the way she inspired from history. The tragic, the hypocrisy but like Lena but also Rei and 86 wanting to uphold republic's values nevertheless are a huge inspiration to me. That is some kind of very positive cultural appropriation.
The final episodes were released after the Ukrainian conflict broke briging back the war in Europe since 1990.
The 86 pride and courage faced with overwhelming forces was resonating way more powerfully after that. I cannot help but compare them to their real world counterparts in Ukraine.
The adaptation is fantastic, I will not repeat what's in your video but just say that the LN goes a bit far into the technicalities of the warfare and that may be boring. The anime while forsaking some details hides all this in a "show but don't tell" philosphy that make it way more attractive. And the japanese obsession with details is so that these technicalities are rather rendered in visual details visible to people looking for them.
It has earned a solid 1st place in my heart.
Watching the final 5 make their last stand in episode 11 had me in tears; it was basically my time playing Halo Reach for the first time on steroids. Having not looked into the story at all beforehand, I genuinely went into the second season believing that Lena was going to be the focus. Then the next episode came out and... then things got interesting. I cannot wait for the last episodes to air.
This is a hot take, but I actually prefer 86's more subtle form of storytelling compared to AoT's massive walls of exposition text. There's a reason "show don't tell" is vital to any form of visual media.
Edit: 86's characters feel more real and nuanced to compared too the truly bombastic, but still undoubtedly lovable, cast of AoT. Mind you this is a personal take and I am not saying 86 is better than AoT. I'm just saying I prefer it's presentation.
Agreed, "show, don't tell" is something more shows should go for. We have an anime this season called "She proffesed herself pupil of the wise child" or something like that, which starts with the narrator having a long monologue giving a huge info dump about what's going on right off the bat, instead of letting the viewers figuring it out themselves. It made me appreciate 86's approach of "show, don't tell" even more. They could have easily opted for a narrator which would give info dumps in the same way, but they went creative and chose visual storytelling which is the best IMO for anime medium. Anime is a visual medium afterall, unlike light novels.
@@rickchakraborty2087 I just realized the irony that AoT is a manga and 86 is a light novel 🤣
AoT is also subtle about its themes and characters. Although it's not outright "show don't tell" but it's not "walls of exposition text" either.
I appreciate how you articulates the greatness of this show. At first I thought this anime was just going to be a blatant "death of the week" tearjerker, but at the end of Season 1 I found myself compelled to give it a 9/10 on MAL.
Thank you for mentioning the Dub and Sub casts rock both languages. Thank you for mentioning the excellent recap/live commentary episodes. And thank you for praising this series to the heavens. It deserves it. And while, they were forced to delay the last two episodes to March 13th and 20th, they have done a fantastic job! At 24:35, you hit the nail on the head. "It seriously respects its fanbase and "aims" to tell the best experience it possibly can to us week after week no matter what." Also, I didn't hear you mention anything about follow-ups, but I don't think this series will get more anime unless a small miracle occurs. They just squeaked by for 23 episodes and doing a movie or full second season would be unlikely. So let's just keep following the novels and see what conclusion badass Ms. Asato Asato writes for us. They just hit volume 11 in Japan. Volume 9 in English drops February 22nd, 2022 and Volume 10 drops May 17th 2022.
I had watched 86 when it came out in 2021, and my opinion about it at the time was " It's just a good anime, nothing more " and my rating for it at the time was only 7/10.
But with time and after hearing many people's opinions about it and how it is a great anime and its story is deep, my mind started wondering " Was the anime really that great but I am the one who didn't understand it? "
So I decided to rewatch it again, but this time with my full focus, because at the time I wasn't focusing on the story and dialogues. I finished watching it a while ago and honestly the anime was really great and much better than I thought.
I can say that 86 is simply one of the best mecha and drama anime ever.
And my rating for it now is 9.5/10.
The world building of 86 is just too damn good. So this will have some spoilers to those who have not watched it or read the novel.
Each nation of 86 have their own history, culture, governance and military hardware. This as in they are almost entire different from one another. For the anime that is we can compare with the two nations in doctrine and war philosophy. While San Magnolia (aslo just known as the Republic) literally wants their soldiers die in the battlefield by having their juggernauts not having armour which even the slightest machine gun hit will decapitate it entirely. The oy upside it have is that because of the lack of armour it have luridiculous speed and manuverbility. With not sending their own people to die the best they have is using long range artillery support well, to support the frontline that is until they don't. That is why in the later episodes you can see just how good and far the artillery technology of the Republic have come. They have different types of shells like AP, HE, cluster mortar shells, incendiary and much more. Although downside being cause the Republic military is so incompetent, most of their artillery are badly maintained. Only have them hastily brought back up by Lena later on.
Now moving to the doctrine and war philosophy of the Federal Republic of Giad or known as the Federacy. By knowing their doctrine and war philosophy one has to know why this nation was founded in the first place. Federal Republic of Giad was formerly known as Empire of Giad or Giadian Empire. This empire is the one that creates the Legion and wage war across the other nations. It was because of that a former general named Ernst Zimmerman lead a rebellion that ultimately crushed the Giadian Empire thus founding the Federal Republic of Giad. The Federacy is build on his ideals where sacrificing such many should be avoided at all cost but at the same time as a former general he knows this war will end in much more casualties. Thus armour and protection is much more important than speed cause what's the good of fighting a war if your more experienced pilot can't survive one hit? This however comes at the cost of speed thus making M4A3 Vánagandr much more looking like a tank and protective head gear were issued to the crews. And the M4A3 Vánagandr have 2 pilots one driver and one gunner. It's war doctrine also implies on their infantry where powered suits were issued to every one of them.
Also a plus, deception tactic such as dropping a butt load of radar reflective metal in the air to decept the legion that the Allied forces (exclude the Republic) are massing in other region before a mass assault. Any history buff fans will know this was famously used once in WW2.
And that's just the tiny but of it. There's much more than this. Just show how good the author is in world building
One of the stand out moments in this show for me was seeing character deaths from Lena's perspective. There's something grim about seeing each member just removed from the list when their killed in action. From the command room you can't see anything that's happening but you know right away when someone is now dead. On top of that, the labels for destroyed processors never go away so Lena and the audience are always reminded of how many have been lost as the show goes on.
Thanks for the video on this masterpiece. There is so much depth and goodness in this story
This anime hooked me immediately but unlike Mushoku Tensei, which was a joy to watch... Eighty Six did it's job too well. It became so emotionally charged that I HAD to put it down. Like how many people start to get "fatigued" by the constant flood of negative news stories prevalent in modern mainstream 24 hour cycle news media.
Attempting to binge this show was literally depressing. A testament to how great it is in it's storytelling ability.
UC Gundam is filled with a blatant undeniable undercurrent of optimism and hope for the future and Eighty Six just takes that hope and curb stomps it repeatedly. It shows you the stark reality of a broken world that frighteningly resembles our own in so many ways if you are making those connections.
Like Schindler's List, I don't think I'm going to do repeated viewings despite being an absolute masterpiece.
Ay yooo 86 finally got recognized. Loved the show and the Light Novel.
"86 Eighty-Six" Episodes 22 & 23 will be airing on the 12th and 19th of March respectively, additionally there will be a new recap episode airing on the 5th of March
I love how much visual storytelling they did on this show which I feel is quite rare in Japanese media. I was surprised that this was actually an adaption of a light novel with how much they relied on the visuals. It just shows how much the creators are passionate about this project.
Thank you so much for dissecting this show! I feel this show is so under appreciated despite how mature and amazing it is.
I wouldnt call it rare for japanese media to use visual story telling, rather i have seen it done almost exclusively in anime, that being said it almost always comes down to the staff involved, the budget and other messy issues.
86 in particular made use of it to make up for its many many many production issues throughout the 2nd season, where a lesser show would have character JUST talk on screen 86 will show some very specific imagery etc. Furthermore the show itself uses this style to imply things from the novel it couldn't outright say.
To put it simply, the directors knew what they wanted to show and how and worked around immense limitations to make it happen.
I would highly recommend reading the novels (e books on amazon) and then rewatching the anime, really drives home just how amazing this adaption was.
Gundam had way more "show don't tell" storytelling than 86. Hell, name any 80s real robot mecha show by Tomino, Takahashi, even Kawamori, I can bet none of them explain things the way 86 did. Can't lie that animators really did their hardest, but I would hardly call it "a masterpiece".
@@mechamaniac1567that scene when Lalah and Ghiren first properly introduce was the most genius thing I ever seen.
Tomino show us many things about who Ghiren is in just one line shorter than a minute
"Hitler? is he the man in middle age?"
that one absolute masterpiece the paragon example of show not tell.
not only Ghiren is so full of his ego he also and cold blooded ignorant who think he is smarter than human of the older age. he so look down on AD century that he think his greed is something brand new and original, not knowing what he done is just a mare another "greedy man" doing "greedy thing" in the next page of history book.
for Lalah oh boy "Captain don't forget your spacesuit" it literally just wife tell the husband to don't forget to bring the raincoat before go to work, and char just didn't seem to care because he doesn't want to carry it and hope the rain will not drop today.
don't forget Greco have people scream "oh Su-cord!" instead of "oh God!" before they even introduce the religion topic in it.
if anyone in this genre going to deserve the title king of mech it sure must be Kill'em all Tomino. and 86 will never be slightest bit close to it. it may look emotional but what method they pull that out is cheap and not creative, sometimes even feel forced and manipulative.
but what can I say Gundam is lower concept show not mass available for normal old type to understand after all. right?
@@scirocco8017 I think the reason why so many people just don't understand Tomino are the translations. His shows are written in a manner that's very theatric.
As for misunderstanding of the genre I think that's a topic people are slowly starting to cover, even if somewhat shyly. Once you see some of the older mecha shows that are available (and that number thankfully grows with every single passing day thanks to companies like Discotek and dedicated fansubbers) you just can't afford to call 86, a show that's very blatantly ridden with plotholes and underused characters, a "masterpiece" like Mother's Basement did here. I personally don't think the show's bad but the very fact it's an LN advertisement knocks off points just from knowing there's more "meat" in written form rather than anime - a no-no for mecha.
As a lover of mecha, 86 has been a godsend. There haven't been many seriously good mecha in the past, I dunno, decade? So many stumble and falter their way into contrived plots and weak narratives, so getting the treat that is 86 is like eating rich chocolate after years of Easter Bunny chocolates.
I have to say, my favorite quirk of 86 is how it frequently jumps between two different perspectives of the same scene, often separated by credits or musical pieces. In the early episodes, this aspect alone helps make the literal and figurative separation between Spearhead and Lena. Also the show is just kinda gorgeous? God I can't wait for the final episodes to air.
10 days until the next LN volume is out in english aaaggh I can't wait also the way they adapt parts of the LN info visual storytelling is something else idk how many anime I've seen that did such an amazing job but its not many
This adaptation is absolutely fantastic. That scene with Shin and the commander... There was nothing like that in the light novel, but it was wonderful. I was laughing as I watched it, in spite of the tone, out of sheer amazement at how much love went into that. And the show is chock-full of details like that!
Finally someone's talking about this show past the "yeah racism is bad, we now" aspect, thank you!
*cough* Connor *cough*
*cough* Garnt *cough*
I mean, MB still spends most of the video focusing on it and that part of the plot is like... 10% of the overall actual plot. After EP12, that whole subplot is mostly over with.
hmm ...brotherhood flag pfp 🤔 I wonder why you of all people would have a problem with criticism of racism 🤔🤔🤔
@@NoReplyAsset No problems with criticism here. As earlier responses indicated, I was refering to other anitubers saying 86 isn't worth watching cause this is the only theme in it.