according to wikipedia "Amurdag language" Charlie Mangulda has died 2016 which made his language lost forever. That guy made a sympathetic and friendly impression in the video. Too bad they didn't put translated subtitles would be nice to know what he is saying. I want to hear his stories.
From Wikipedia: "According to the 2016 Australian census, there were no speakers of Amurdak in 2016;[7] however, as of March 2021 Mungulda's death has not been reported,[8] and he co-authored a paper published in May 2020.[9]" seems like he just disappeared off the face of the earth, instead of dying
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I speak two Aboriginal language martu wangka and yolngu Martha Marrthirri= want love Gapu= fresh water Ngarrpiya= octopus Djapana= sunset Wulminda=dark clouds Copuru= tuna Waak= crow Bolu= bamboo Marrandil= when the tide is all the way out Balanda= white man Baru= saltwater crocodile Bapa= father Madi= crayfish lobster Warwu= grieving Warwuwu= grief Matha= tongue, language, flame of fire
The reason we want to learn these languages is NOT to preserve them, although that we be a nice thought - as explained - the knowledge that some of these people have is so vast, that we haven't got it. If English went extinct, and nobody else in the world spoke it (although we know it won't) anything inside this sentence I'm writing, is lost. Because there is nobody who can tell us what is written here. - We aren't getting depressed, or wishing to preserve but think how awful it must be for some of these people who are completely on their own. - if they speak nothing other than the language they know, then they can't communicate pain, ideas, sympathy with anybody aside from native speakers of their language. They can't confide in anybody and this must be a horrible thing if they don't speak a mainstream language like English or Chinese, but only speak their own because they can't even communicate to teach it.
+trollworkout I think you misunderstood my meaning, these people have some vast knowledge. If we can't keep these languages, then we have nobody to comprehend their culture as nobody can understand what it is that they're trying to converse.
+trollworkout I'm not really sure I can put into words what it is that I'm trying to say, but now I look back, I don't think how I wrote it really portrayed whay I meant in a good light. I think I meant that to preserve a language is just to preserve something and keep it, so to speak without thought behind why we are doing so. I feel, if I was the last to speak on of my languages, I think there would be many stories, important knowledge and like you said, culture that I would want to pass down and share but I don't think culture is the primary factor. There are many other reasons we should try to revive languages that are endangered or extinct so we can understand literary works and stories that can portray things like knowledge of culture, knowledge or history etc.
Coming back to this a year later, I can say I don't agree with some of what I said. My stance has changed, and I misunderstand some of my own points.. What I believe now is that we want to preserve the language to study their culture and their history, because a good 80% of the time, these people are the product of historical cultures who have been wronged and exploited by other nations... Not only this, but to learn what they do. There's so much we don't know about their land, the species that live there etc nobody knows better than them. Furthermore, if we learn languages like these, it helps us understand the grammatical makeup of other languages if we wish to try to preserve others too.
The case of Manx shows that it is far not too late if only a few native speakers are left if some people want to learn from them and if teaching books are available. It is up to the last native speakers to teach their language to others, especially children, so that there are people left to know it when they will die. Unless brutal oppression is taking place, language death is no fate without return!
In Göttingen and its neighbourhood, a Low German dialect is spoken by old people only; it is Eastphalian and it is a pity that this dialect has almost disappeared. 1,400 years of dialect history (since the consonant shift in the 7th century) will just be wiped out. In Schleswig-Holstein and the Northern part of Lower Saxony, the situation is better, but challenging. I hope they eventually learn from our mistakes.
ermiteno, a spanish creole once spoken in ermita district of manila, philippines had its last speaker died sometime in the 1990s...other spanish creoles like ternateno, spoken in ternate ,cavite and caviteno spoken in Cavite City might be looking at their last generation of speakers
You need to preserve the langauge and try to make it mandatory for the natives to learn! I am of Lenca and Pipil Origin and I am learning what is left of Lenca...it is extinct but I can pronounce the words with accuracy 'cause of my accent! It may never bee complete but at least I will know enough
These comments are old. Anyways, guys let’s help out and try to learn new languages! I want to become fluent in Spanish (I’m half Mexican, so that would be lovely to communicate smoothly with family), Mandarin (2nd most spoken language in the world), Japanese (I want to move there eventually), & ASL to communicate with the deaf or hard of hearing
That is your opinion and I can totally respect that even if my views differ :D Just out of curiosity what language did you use in your previous comment?
I'm afraid you've misunderstood my point (or maybe I didn't make it clear), I think it's important to learn languages, just not the ones that are learned to preserve almost extinct ones. I'm from Germany so we don't have any languages that are going into extinction (at least not to my knowledge) so maybe that's why I don't see the point in it. May I suggest you watch David Mitchell's Soapbox on the Gaelic language. Perhaps that'll better explain my views even if you don't agree with them.
It depends on the perspective. If we will talk about 2-5 Languages in the future, we will understand each other better and maybe this is the key of not making war all the time.
Na ja, wir haben keine Sprachen die so stark vom Aussterben bedroht sind wie australische Sprachen. Aber um die deutschen Minderheitensprachen sieht es ja nicht sehr gut aus. Die machen im Moment nun ja leider alle eine negative Entwicklung durch.
I don't get why people are so obsessed with keeping these languages. Sure, they contain knowledge but languages have been dying out for millennia. Getting depressed about it is pretty pointless. Personally I'd rather spend my time learning a language like Spanish that will help me communicate with a large group of native speakers. While it's important we learn from our past we also need to learn to let go.
If you don't get it then go away and leave us alone. We don't butt in on your hobbies and criticise your life for being wasted on pointless things, and I don't need to know anything about you other than the fact you are commenting on an obscure RUclips video to have proof that plenty of your own time is wasted. It's not pointless to record dying languages: firstly it's useful for the science of linguistics, in the same way as it's useful for biologists to discover a new species of animal since it helps us learn more about biology, or as it's useful for a street salesman to talk to someone on the street in the hope of getting a sale even though 90% of people will just walk past. Every so often we discover something of major importance from rare languages, such as the dispute about the Piraha language of the Amazon rainforest, which has the potential to alter the theory of Universal Grammar (a theory which is used not just in linguistics but in speech therapy, child abuse cases, computer progamming and artificial intelligence). Also it's well known that Australian Aborigines have major social problems. If their language and culture is valued and paid attention to then there's more change of engaging them and thus lessening crime and alcoholism and drawing them into positive pursuits. Nobody is stopping you from learning Spanish: good luck getting a job learning Spanish, since half of Mexico speaks fluent English so it won't give you a huge advantage. Unless you specifically want to work in an industry/country which speaks a particular language there's no point in learning a foreign language at all since you'll nearly always be outcompeted by the millions of natively bilingual people these days. You're better off spending your time learning other skills like computer programming which are less common and which you can more easily compete against others with after only a couple of years learning. The really useful languages are those whose native speakers are less likely to speak English. So languages like Russian, Japanese, Arabic, Bengali or Amharic. Even Mandarin now is starting to be oversaturated as a language choice, what with millions of Chinese middle class people being educated in English from a young age and going to university in the US or UK and several hundred thousand Westerners learning it.
according to wikipedia "Amurdag language" Charlie Mangulda has died 2016 which made his language lost forever. That guy made a sympathetic and friendly impression in the video. Too bad they didn't put translated subtitles would be nice to know what he is saying. I want to hear his stories.
@@oriongod3832 Did he say 'adavu' and 'moolam ', Sounds like tamil
@@oriongod3832 Amurdam has sankrit origin. But the eprson was telling some other word
Well, he still alive
From Wikipedia: "According to the 2016 Australian census, there were no speakers of Amurdak in 2016;[7] however, as of March 2021 Mungulda's death has not been reported,[8] and he co-authored a paper published in May 2020.[9]"
seems like he just disappeared off the face of the earth, instead of dying
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Please do what you can to extend the learning of these extinct languages!
I speak two Aboriginal language martu wangka and yolngu Martha
Marrthirri= want love
Gapu= fresh water
Ngarrpiya= octopus
Djapana= sunset
Wulminda=dark clouds
Copuru= tuna
Waak= crow
Bolu= bamboo
Marrandil= when the tide is all the way out
Balanda= white man
Baru= saltwater crocodile
Bapa= father
Madi= crayfish lobster
Warwu= grieving
Warwuwu= grief
Matha= tongue, language, flame of fire
Are you a real aboriginal person or a person who learned the languages?
Five years later, and this is a godsend of a find. Thank you for sharing.
Would you be willing to share more?
The reason we want to learn these languages is NOT to preserve them, although that we be a nice thought - as explained - the knowledge that some of these people have is so vast, that we haven't got it. If English went extinct, and nobody else in the world spoke it (although we know it won't) anything inside this sentence I'm writing, is lost. Because there is nobody who can tell us what is written here. - We aren't getting depressed, or wishing to preserve but think how awful it must be for some of these people who are completely on their own. - if they speak nothing other than the language they know, then they can't communicate pain, ideas, sympathy with anybody aside from native speakers of their language. They can't confide in anybody and this must be a horrible thing if they don't speak a mainstream language like English or Chinese, but only speak their own because they can't even communicate to teach it.
+trollworkout I think you misunderstood my meaning, these people have some vast knowledge. If we can't keep these languages, then we have nobody to comprehend their culture as nobody can understand what it is that they're trying to converse.
+trollworkout I'm not really sure I can put into words what it is that I'm trying to say, but now I look back, I don't think how I wrote it really portrayed whay I meant in a good light. I think I meant that to preserve a language is just to preserve something and keep it, so to speak without thought behind why we are doing so. I feel, if I was the last to speak on of my languages, I think there would be many stories, important knowledge and like you said, culture that I would want to pass down and share but I don't think culture is the primary factor. There are many other reasons we should try to revive languages that are endangered or extinct so we can understand literary works and stories that can portray things like knowledge of culture, knowledge or history etc.
Coming back to this a year later, I can say I don't agree with some of what I said. My stance has changed, and I misunderstand some of my own points.. What I believe now is that we want to preserve the language to study their culture and their history, because a good 80% of the time, these people are the product of historical cultures who have been wronged and exploited by other nations... Not only this, but to learn what they do. There's so much we don't know about their land, the species that live there etc nobody knows better than them. Furthermore, if we learn languages like these, it helps us understand the grammatical makeup of other languages if we wish to try to preserve others too.
This is very true and your an intelligent person
The case of Manx shows that it is far not too late if only a few native speakers are left if some people want to learn from them and if teaching books are available. It is up to the last native speakers to teach their language to others, especially children, so that there are people left to know it when they will die. Unless brutal oppression is taking place, language death is no fate without return!
In Göttingen and its neighbourhood, a Low German dialect is spoken by old people only; it is Eastphalian and it is a pity that this dialect has almost disappeared. 1,400 years of dialect history (since the consonant shift in the 7th century) will just be wiped out.
In Schleswig-Holstein and the Northern part of Lower Saxony, the situation is better, but challenging. I hope they eventually learn from our mistakes.
yeah, aboriginal australian languages will be lost (atleast 80000 years worth)
I love the work you do guys.
Great work once again National geographic....
ermiteno, a spanish creole once spoken in ermita district of manila, philippines had its last speaker died sometime in the 1990s...other spanish creoles like ternateno, spoken in ternate ,cavite and caviteno spoken in Cavite City might be looking at their last generation of speakers
Muy buena reflexión. Debemos trabajar para no perder esos tesoros que se estan extinguiendo.
You need to preserve the langauge and try to make it mandatory for the natives to learn! I am of Lenca and Pipil Origin and I am learning what is left of Lenca...it is extinct but I can pronounce the words with accuracy 'cause of my accent! It may never bee complete but at least I will know enough
keep up the good work... im proud of your efforts to preserve it.. you never know you may find the cure for cancer
We need to preserve our culture
These comments are old. Anyways, guys let’s help out and try to learn new languages! I want to become fluent in Spanish (I’m half Mexican, so that would be lovely to communicate smoothly with family), Mandarin (2nd most spoken language in the world), Japanese (I want to move there eventually), & ASL to communicate with the deaf or hard of hearing
I am trying to find out the Wunumara word for Dunnart. Or the Wunumara name for Julia Creek...
That is your opinion and I can totally respect that even if my views differ :D
Just out of curiosity what language did you use in your previous comment?
me pregunto cuantos linguas el presentado este mensaje
Como?
@shakia teague-perry. I'm sure yours smells like rotting fish.
I'm afraid you've misunderstood my point (or maybe I didn't make it clear), I think it's important to learn languages, just not the ones that are learned to preserve almost extinct ones. I'm from Germany so we don't have any languages that are going into extinction (at least not to my knowledge) so maybe that's why I don't see the point in it. May I suggest you watch David Mitchell's Soapbox on the Gaelic language. Perhaps that'll better explain my views even if you don't agree with them.
Cool, Danke :-)
It depends on the perspective. If we will talk about 2-5 Languages in the future, we will understand each other better and maybe this is the key of not making war all the time.
Na ja, wir haben keine Sprachen die so stark vom Aussterben bedroht sind wie australische Sprachen. Aber um die deutschen Minderheitensprachen sieht es ja nicht sehr gut aus. Die machen im Moment nun ja leider alle eine negative Entwicklung durch.
I don't get why people are so obsessed with keeping these languages. Sure, they contain knowledge but languages have been dying out for millennia. Getting depressed about it is pretty pointless. Personally I'd rather spend my time learning a language like Spanish that will help me communicate with a large group of native speakers. While it's important we learn from our past we also need to learn to let go.
If you don't get it then go away and leave us alone. We don't butt in on your hobbies and criticise your life for being wasted on pointless things, and I don't need to know anything about you other than the fact you are commenting on an obscure RUclips video to have proof that plenty of your own time is wasted.
It's not pointless to record dying languages: firstly it's useful for the science of linguistics, in the same way as it's useful for biologists to discover a new species of animal since it helps us learn more about biology, or as it's useful for a street salesman to talk to someone on the street in the hope of getting a sale even though 90% of people will just walk past. Every so often we discover something of major importance from rare languages, such as the dispute about the Piraha language of the Amazon rainforest, which has the potential to alter the theory of Universal Grammar (a theory which is used not just in linguistics but in speech therapy, child abuse cases, computer progamming and artificial intelligence).
Also it's well known that Australian Aborigines have major social problems. If their language and culture is valued and paid attention to then there's more change of engaging them and thus lessening crime and alcoholism and drawing them into positive pursuits.
Nobody is stopping you from learning Spanish: good luck getting a job learning Spanish, since half of Mexico speaks fluent English so it won't give you a huge advantage. Unless you specifically want to work in an industry/country which speaks a particular language there's no point in learning a foreign language at all since you'll nearly always be outcompeted by the millions of natively bilingual people these days. You're better off spending your time learning other skills like computer programming which are less common and which you can more easily compete against others with after only a couple of years learning.
The really useful languages are those whose native speakers are less likely to speak English. So languages like Russian, Japanese, Arabic, Bengali or Amharic. Even Mandarin now is starting to be oversaturated as a language choice, what with millions of Chinese middle class people being educated in English from a young age and going to university in the US or UK and several hundred thousand Westerners learning it.