Note: This issue is NOT EXCLUSIVE to transfers - it's really an overall "college student" problem. Transfer Students can and are just as successful as first year admits. But success is not guaranteed and you still have to put in the work regardless of your status as a transfer or first year admit. Only significant difference is that you might save a lot of money by going to community college :)
This is a great video, I see other comments misinterpreted your message but I completely understand! Ultimately the name of the school can only carry us so far, I really think it is much more important for advisors to focus on career centered activities and opportunities than worrying about a certain school! I also agree that long term goals is the most important!
Yeah I think they’re just seeing the title/thumbnail and commenting. I’m fully supportive of community college. And yes colleges are failing their students by not preparing them for that next step. A degree needs a return on investment to justify its cost.
@@adamramirez1 I figured! If I wasn’t going to my advisor constantly I would be very confused career wise. I don’t think it’s enough just to do well in classes, it really is important take the initiative on making meetings with mentors.
@@lysandracaspez578 yeah you have to be a go-getter to succeed. At Berkeley I realized my GPA wasn’t going to get me far so I focused more on building my resume. Probably the best decision I made and it’s very contrary to what students focus on.
I have a similar trajectory as you where I started from CC and then pigeonholed myself into just focusing on transferring to either UCLA/Berkeley. I eventually got into Berkeley and realized that it was tough for me to integrate at first because CC is almost always a smaller classroom setting which makes you visible to your professors and for them to understand you as a student. When transferring from that into a huge institution like Berkeley, it becomes more difficult for you to stand out in the crowd - especially if its now a class of 300+ kids compared to the 30 classroom size you are accustomed to in CC. I can also see why some CC kids are at a disadvantage because from my background of Biology, there's not a lot of cutting-edge research opportunities in CC. You can probably get a lab technician job in CC, but contributing to a publication while at CC is difficult since not a lot of CC professors do research. So it was a struggle for me to get research positions once I transferred to Berkeley, which is why I had to do a postbacc for two years after. With all that said, I managed to get into a PhD program now and am happy to see that there are other CC folks out there who are in the same program as me. So I agree with you that sometimes coming from CC can be a disadvantage, but there are plenty of advantages too like saving money, being closer to your professor so they can potentially write you a more effusive letter of recommendation if you are planning to apply to grad school after your BS/BA, and the quality of education is still great! :D
Definitely agree that although CC might have some shortfalls it’s still an amazing option and the best financial decision. I’ll admit the thumbnail/title are a bit too “catchy” 💀 but nonetheless I’m a huge advocate for the CC route. YES, it’s a shock when transferring to such a large institution. I had to live by the motto “sink or swim” my first year to motivate myself. Amazing story too and go bears 🐻
this is why florida has a better post secondary system. community college is heavily promoted here and the transition is seamless because everything here is standardized
I was also a CC student and I don’t agree with you. I found that I and many of the other CC student I met in college performed much better in classes than their 4 year counterparts, after an initial adjustment period. Although you might be behind in internships/lab experience, etc. overall CC students are not at a disadvantage. In fact they often have a better knowledge background because CC is a more conducive environment for learning. If anyone who is reading this is feeling anxious about going to CC or feels less than because their friends are off at 4years, don’t CC was the best experience I made, and I have yet to meet a CC grad that regrets their decision.
Agree with your points but I think my assertions were misunderstood. So yes, CC aren’t at a disadvantage, they usually are just behind when it comes internships/lab and other experiences that lead to success in goals post-grad. Which imo is the main point of getting a bachelors degree, it’s a stepping stone into the next phase of your life. And yes academically transfers at UC Berkeley actually statistically do better academically than regular students. However, unless you’re applying for grad schools, having a 3.5+ gpa is all you really need to landing internships or into a career post-grad. Hope this shores things up because I’m a huge advocate for going to community college and it has been foundational for my success so far.
I transferred to Berkeley as well and was wondering how you were able to secure internships at media companies. I will be graduating soon and have found myself in a similar position.
A lot of job applications, I applied to maybe 300+ during my time at CAL. Ultimately I had a lot of rejections but you only need a few to go through. The rejections were discouraging but at the end of the day it’s a numbers game and you can’t let it knock your confidence. I would encourage joining clubs and trying to find ways to add experience to your resume. I also prioritized internships and job recruitment over my classes. So although my gpa wasn’t the best, I made sure that I would tailor my resume to each job position and apply as soon as possible since most internships are on a rolling basis. Hope this helps, GO BEARRSSSS 🐻
While I understand the point you’re making, I feel like there are so much more factors that place in depending on the career path/industry to specific schools. You’re kinda making a very large assumptions (exaggerated even) and ruins the credibility of your argument. For my personal experience, I actually started out 1at year in university, and due to Covid I had to move and decided to pursue my two year at a CC before transferring back to Uni. While in CC I felt the teachers were more attentive, the courses were more in-line with reality since these 2 year programs are aware they are preparing student for the work force instead of theoretical. I felt more prepared to work as a 2nd year CC student than an incoming 3rd UNI student. Not to discredit their level of knowledge but it’s very lacking of real life application.
Yes there are so many nuances and if I spoke of every factor it would be a 30 mins+ video. I can see how it can be perceived as exaggerated but I’m assuming that people are shooting for the stars with their dreams and they should. If you’re not dreaming big then you’re limiting yourself. Some examples: Finance industry: Going into Bulge Bracket investment banking, MBB, Quant SWE/Data Science: FANG level jobs Pre-law & Pre-med: Getting into Top 25 schools
I am thinking about attending CSUSM in the fall for one year and then transferring to CC like you did, but I’m worried my courses won’t transfer. (I’m a chemistry major btw) did all your GE courses transfer from CSUSM to CC?
You’re literally just making shit up lmfao. Every single person in my program (engineering) who has transferred to university in the past 5 years from my CC is doing incredible with research and internship experience. I am going to CC and have an internship as a freshman with research experience. I have no idea where you got this narrative that is easily disproven by minimal research 😅
Thats part of the difficulty when speaking very generally, I understand there’s diff segment of students and I’m not discrediting that there are a lot of successful transfer students but on the other side of the coin there are a lot of students who struggle to align their next goal (largely from the tight two year time span that they have) It takes extra work to get up to speed with recruiting for jobs/internships/lab experience etc and I know that’s something CC students wish they would’ve known before hand to mitigate being behind in these processes. Agreed?
Note: This issue is NOT EXCLUSIVE to transfers - it's really an overall "college student" problem. Transfer Students can and are just as successful as first year admits. But success is not guaranteed and you still have to put in the work regardless of your status as a transfer or first year admit.
Only significant difference is that you might save a lot of money by going to community college :)
This is a great video, I see other comments misinterpreted your message but I completely understand! Ultimately the name of the school can only carry us so far, I really think it is much more important for advisors to focus on career centered activities and opportunities than worrying about a certain school! I also agree that long term goals is the most important!
Yeah I think they’re just seeing the title/thumbnail and commenting. I’m fully supportive of community college.
And yes colleges are failing their students by not preparing them for that next step. A degree needs a return on investment to justify its cost.
@@adamramirez1 I figured! If I wasn’t going to my advisor constantly I would be very confused career wise. I don’t think it’s enough just to do well in classes, it really is important take the initiative on making meetings with mentors.
@@lysandracaspez578 yeah you have to be a go-getter to succeed.
At Berkeley I realized my GPA wasn’t going to get me far so I focused more on building my resume. Probably the best decision I made and it’s very contrary to what students focus on.
This seems like why YOU didn't transfer well, not why Community College students as a whole don't transfer well..
I transferred kinda well…
Very true...
This is literally made up. I’m excelling beyond university students because of my community college requirements.
Excelling in the class or career stuff?
I have a similar trajectory as you where I started from CC and then pigeonholed myself into just focusing on transferring to either UCLA/Berkeley. I eventually got into Berkeley and realized that it was tough for me to integrate at first because CC is almost always a smaller classroom setting which makes you visible to your professors and for them to understand you as a student. When transferring from that into a huge institution like Berkeley, it becomes more difficult for you to stand out in the crowd - especially if its now a class of 300+ kids compared to the 30 classroom size you are accustomed to in CC.
I can also see why some CC kids are at a disadvantage because from my background of Biology, there's not a lot of cutting-edge research opportunities in CC. You can probably get a lab technician job in CC, but contributing to a publication while at CC is difficult since not a lot of CC professors do research. So it was a struggle for me to get research positions once I transferred to Berkeley, which is why I had to do a postbacc for two years after.
With all that said, I managed to get into a PhD program now and am happy to see that there are other CC folks out there who are in the same program as me. So I agree with you that sometimes coming from CC can be a disadvantage, but there are plenty of advantages too like saving money, being closer to your professor so they can potentially write you a more effusive letter of recommendation if you are planning to apply to grad school after your BS/BA, and the quality of education is still great! :D
Definitely agree that although CC might have some shortfalls it’s still an amazing option and the best financial decision. I’ll admit the thumbnail/title are a bit too “catchy” 💀 but nonetheless I’m a huge advocate for the CC route.
YES, it’s a shock when transferring to such a large institution. I had to live by the motto “sink or swim” my first year to motivate myself. Amazing story too and go bears 🐻
this is why florida has a better post secondary system. community college is heavily promoted here and the transition is seamless because everything here is standardized
I was also a CC student and I don’t agree with you. I found that I and many of the other CC student I met in college performed much better in classes than their 4 year counterparts, after an initial adjustment period. Although you might be behind in internships/lab experience, etc. overall CC students are not at a disadvantage. In fact they often have a better knowledge background because CC is a more conducive environment for learning.
If anyone who is reading this is feeling anxious about going to CC or feels less than because their friends are off at 4years, don’t CC was the best experience I made, and I have yet to meet a CC grad that regrets their decision.
Agree with your points but I think my assertions were misunderstood. So yes, CC aren’t at a disadvantage, they usually are just behind when it comes internships/lab and other experiences that lead to success in goals post-grad. Which imo is the main point of getting a bachelors degree, it’s a stepping stone into the next phase of your life. And yes academically transfers at UC Berkeley actually statistically do better academically than regular students. However, unless you’re applying for grad schools, having a 3.5+ gpa is all you really need to landing internships or into a career post-grad.
Hope this shores things up because I’m a huge advocate for going to community college and it has been foundational for my success so far.
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I transferred to Berkeley as well and was wondering how you were able to secure internships at media companies. I will be graduating soon and have found myself in a similar position.
A lot of job applications, I applied to maybe 300+ during my time at CAL. Ultimately I had a lot of rejections but you only need a few to go through.
The rejections were discouraging but at the end of the day it’s a numbers game and you can’t let it knock your confidence. I would encourage joining clubs and trying to find ways to add experience to your resume.
I also prioritized internships and job recruitment over my classes. So although my gpa wasn’t the best, I made sure that I would tailor my resume to each job position and apply as soon as possible since most internships are on a rolling basis.
Hope this helps, GO BEARRSSSS 🐻
I’m considering taking the cc route to a 4 yr university and I just wanted to ask what extracurriculars u were involved in at cc?
Finance society. I also worked two part time jobs and wrote about that in my college essays.
All the CC kids in here coping😭dont worry yall will figure it out
4 year boy coping with his devious amounts of debt by bullying cc kids
go pay off your debt
While I understand the point you’re making, I feel like there are so much more factors that place in depending on the career path/industry to specific schools. You’re kinda making a very large assumptions (exaggerated even) and ruins the credibility of your argument.
For my personal experience, I actually started out 1at year in university, and due to Covid I had to move and decided to pursue my two year at a CC before transferring back to Uni. While in CC I felt the teachers were more attentive, the courses were more in-line with reality since these 2 year programs are aware they are preparing student for the work force instead of theoretical. I felt more prepared to work as a 2nd year CC student than an incoming 3rd UNI student. Not to discredit their level of knowledge but it’s very lacking of real life application.
Yes there are so many nuances and if I spoke of every factor it would be a 30 mins+ video.
I can see how it can be perceived as exaggerated but I’m assuming that people are shooting for the stars with their dreams and they should. If you’re not dreaming big then you’re limiting yourself.
Some examples:
Finance industry: Going into Bulge Bracket investment banking, MBB, Quant
SWE/Data Science: FANG level jobs
Pre-law & Pre-med: Getting into Top 25 schools
I am thinking about attending CSUSM in the fall for one year and then transferring to CC like you did, but I’m worried my courses won’t transfer. (I’m a chemistry major btw) did all your GE courses transfer from CSUSM to CC?
GE classes have a better chance at transferring over. Major classes are more difficult. Complete your GEs at csusm first.
@@adamramirez1 how many years of CC did it take you to transfer to UC after 1 year at CSUSM?
nah that's just you bud
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You’re literally just making shit up lmfao. Every single person in my program (engineering) who has transferred to university in the past 5 years from my CC is doing incredible with research and internship experience. I am going to CC and have an internship as a freshman with research experience.
I have no idea where you got this narrative that is easily disproven by minimal research 😅
Thats part of the difficulty when speaking very generally, I understand there’s diff segment of students and I’m not discrediting that there are a lot of successful transfer students but on the other side of the coin there are a lot of students who struggle to align their next goal (largely from the tight two year time span that they have) It takes extra work to get up to speed with recruiting for jobs/internships/lab experience etc and I know that’s something CC students wish they would’ve known before hand to mitigate being behind in these processes. Agreed?
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