Thank you Cele. Now all of the world knows what IDIOT is in charge of safety and security. No wonder crime is out of control. Salute to Ian Cameron for calling out Cele on his BS.
Exactly its getting old now. These black leaders like Cele are suffering from PTSD in my opinion and they are just too psychologically weak to let go of their power over people hence they continue to justify the ANC government ruling with the same old stories and experiences from the Aparttheid era. I think it's time we move on as a country from this current ruling party.
anc ,you and me are dealing with a problem that would take a hundred years to repair..its not so easy if everyone is not on the same page.who are they going to replace anc with. thats the big worry.. 26 years and the country was sabotage on all levels.yes the anc were corrupt but their corruption is small to what state the country was handed over.
True, that is how they captured people's minds. Race baiting is getting lame as they living luxurious lifestyles and keep on taking about the past. This thieves allowing our people to be killed
Minister " I fought, I slept in the cold, I nearly deid......." everything is in the past, how I wish he said I'm fighting, I'm sleeping sleeping in the cold, I'm dying for human rights.
@@frederikmare9002 thank you comrade Mare, these people should focus on the current situations and find solutions instead of telling us about what they did.
😳is Cele okay? what's wrong with him?we not gonna sit listen to him if he behave like this. what he said is in past we are moving forward they are not doing their job.
It's time to step aside for these pensioners! We need a referendum pls.....mentally, emotionally the minister needs to check himself in, soonest. This anger may kill someone and add to GBV and violence from the very one who must protect us...aaai this is sad!!!
Ja,chase the guy away that actually helps the community on his own time.The Minister will return to 'help' and ask for suggestions in seven months time.
Cele just proved himself as just another Black politician fascinated with race. Looking at someone as white first and not listening to what they have to say.
@@gamewoodfilms-game2917 I would love not to. SA would be so much better if nobody would ever be referred to or treated in terms of their skin colour. But the ANC's political (and EFF's) basic argument always starts with racism and reacting to historical racism by applying racism today. This Cele incident illustrates this well and thus "Black politician" refers to the state of the ANC and EFF's political play of racism to garner the majority vote and retain power, even in abject failure.
Now we can see why we have moral degeneration amongst the youth, how can this old man just attack a young man like that. He is older and should first show respect to earn it.
@@l.m90 Do you know that in South Africa we have the highest wealth gap amongst citizens! And that the wealth gap exists in the racial line of people in this nation! And that the wealth gap is the cause of all inequalities and most of the crime as well as racial tension in this nation! So, yeah, "everything is about race" and it will continue to stay like that until the wealth gap no longer exists! Hence, reparation is needed to bridge the wealth gap and not affirmative action policies like we have!!! PS: The 'past' represents 'history', and history is the greatest teacher! Thus, only those who comprehend history are best suited to talk about the present and lead! So, yeah! Being stuck in the past is not a bad thing if you use that time to learn more about the history!!!🤔
We'll move forward after black people get reparation to bridge the wealth gap that was created by the apartheid government. Thus, that has continued till this day to put most black people in servitude positions to the other races of people in this nation.
@@stanzankosi66And here I was thinking that racism and white supremacy are the biggest roots of all problems we have in this world!!! Apparently I was wrong😮💨 because according to you the "race thing is out of fashion" and that means racism as well I'm guessing!!!🤔
Yeah man, most people are actually done looking for negative crap. Perhaps you should consider therapy, not trying to be mean, you seem broken. Most people get along well.
@@redpilled9595 Getting along and equality are two different situations. People get along with dogs, but don’t see nor treat dogs as equal to them! Because equality is only determined by how much power (which is wealth, money) all sides have in this world. Hence, that is why rich people are not equal to poor people in terms of power and influence in this world, regardless of if they get along or not. And in South Africa the wealth gap is the highest in the world! Now between which races of people I will let you figure out that yourself. My point is that getting along is meaningless unless these equality between the races of people in this nation. Why? Because powerless people are always dependent on the powerful for survival and just about everything in life. And if the powerful decide to mistreat the powerless, these nothing the powerless that they can do, except endure! Now is that a good reality? Hell no!!! Thus, my comment to @So phia!!!
Reading these comments I am starting to get hope for the future with the younger generation, just when I was starting to lose hope. I hope you guys build a better, stronger and more united country with all South Africans participating, than just falling back into the past and playing victims.
@@yououtuber4176 Next time when you feel the need to criticise or comment or make a suggestion about the leadership of this nation! Don't use black people's history of suffering to do so!!! Especially if you gonna state something, then fail to support it to make sense. It's very disrespectful!!! As the current generation, we may not be physically oppressed like in the apartheid era, however, we still are economically oppressed because the wealth gap was not created by the democratic government but the apartheid government. And as long the wealth gap still exists most black people will always remain in servitude positions to the other races of people in this nation. We need reparation to bridge the wealth gap not affirmative action, like most groups of people who have been oppressed in this world (i.e., Jews). Secondly, we the current generation, although not physically oppressed, but we carry with us the psychological traumas that were passed down from our grandparents to our parents to us presently!!! Not to mention colonisation black people's way of life being destroyed and altered to make way for the colonisers. Hence the Day of Reconciliation did nothing for black people except help to reveal and confirm some of the horrors and vicious brutality done to us. So, we NOT PLAYING VICTIMS we're VICTIMS and we'll continue to be victims for generations to come until the wealth gap cease to exist. By then no race of people will be dependent on another for survival!!! 🤔
@@samkelisothabede7366 Ahh get a grip on life. My comment was positive. You are ranting on. ruclips.net/video/vyCr91_UymA/видео.html Reason for edit: added link.
How can the minister dishonor people who work in a kitchen or in a garden. No work is below or above one another, I also clean the kitchen floor, wash the dishes and prepare food and mow the lawn, cut trees and plant flowers. My work is NOT at a lower standard than his because he earns more money than me! I am seriously provoked about this!
That also hurt my feelings we have family members who are working hard as gardeners and domestic workers and you know what they are surviving and living! It was disrespect to the domestic workers and gardeners for cele to look down on our fathers & mothers like that
A huge round of applause for Ian, we are in a state of crisis in SA NOW, whats in the past cant be forgotten but we need to focus on the present to prepare for the future. Cele must stop wanting to be politically correct and LISTEN!!!!!!
Very true what you say. They are hero worshipping cowards acting like they live Cele just for money. They don't care about the people. He controls them with his big mouth. You are very right, I never thought about that.
All these ex freedom fighters need to retire and stop trying to run a country, we will forever be thankful for them but don't embarrass yourself like this on public television The minister is obviously threatened because of his lack of work
Old story the community accepts the hand of those who reach out to help them, but then sadly bites that hand! They should have boo'd Cele for insulting a community fighter...
@@mawethumbusi4524 have to apologise to Gugs people: Ian said yesterday it was a group of anc / cele supporters at 1 of the tables who jeered him and cheered cele!
This is precisely why I am absolutely fed up with the ANC. The ANC has always been and still is a freedom fighting organisation and not a governing party. This is evident in that the most recent accomplishment they consistently refer to is the fight for freedom. Unfortunately they are very mistaken. The independence of South Africa is a fight that was fought and won by SOUTH AFRICANS. Every South African should be able to question the efficiency of government. That is the literal definition of democracy. These people have categorically failed when it comes to governance, protecting and/or growing the economy, and forming strategic policies. For that we have every right to hold them accountable even though we were not there to fight for our country. We are not the enemy!
When Ian said that each detective I'd sitting with 300 cases each and they are junior, just out of college and need help it explains our GBV problem. And the most vulnerable and exposed are those in the poorest communities. I hope Cele makes a plan.
I doubt very much that Cele even noted that. He'll do nothing especially because He was humiliated in the presence of their supporters. Cele is reacting the same way the white supremacy were treating us in this country for telling the truth during Apartheid Regime. He's more annoyed with the young guy because he's"white" something very ironic because it is in their Charter. To be so Colour Blinded that he can't even pretend? The young man was upset and angry and he couldn't hold back but he didn't deserve to Howling! the least.Cele is suppose to be serving the people not harassing them. Customers are always right and that's the same with Communities served/serviced. That's uncalled for.
Summary: Cele: Fails miserably at his job. Citizen: "You are failing at your job." Cele: "You just saying that because I'm black! Get out, you racist!"
These ANC ministers have been displaying arrogance, disdain and they got away with it for so many years. Why would the minister became irate to hearing the truth. It just goes to show what type of leadership we have in this country Pathetic
much respect for this I don't understand why he was removed this is south Africa no Nazi Germany we have right for any opinion that come across our mind salute u my man people are dying each and everyday no justice
But why did he called imbizo if he’s weak to take feedback. And it pathetic to see him playing a struggle card. He need to do his job and stop whining like a baby. Tjooo oCele kant banjan😂
It is 2022, Cele, not 1960 and you need to focus on police service delivery and not freedom fighting and Apartheid. Delivery of what you owe the people for their tax
Disgusting really Hon Mr Ramaphosa council your Minister Cele for conducting himself this badly. Wish the whole clip was played. To tell people to shut up !!! The are citizens not underaged children and even if ttey were ..... sies Mnr Cele
he invited the minister to do patrols without his bodyguards and fancy vehicles so that the minister can see the reality south africans are facing each and every day. no racism there
@@gordonhopkins4658 Wait!!! Wait!!! Wait!!!🤨Are you trying to tell me that calling someone a racist means you’re a racist as well! Because if that's the logic, that means the same logic should apply as well when calling someone else, perhaps a thief, bigotry, stupid, and so on. However, that's not the case isn't! Calling someone else, something basically implies how you personally perceive them to be. So, your logic and reasoning behind your comment doesn't make sense, and not to mention, where in the video does the minister actually utters the word racist to Ian Cameron. Hence, I think you're being too emotional in your response, and you're using the reverse racist card to play victim. Nevertheless, don't get me wrong with my stance, I'm fully behind Ian Cameron's side! I believe his inquires to the minister was just and reasonable too. Although, I feel like emotions did fly out of control from both sides, but that's just my own observation!!! 🤔 Secondly, I think your entire understanding of what racism actually is, is incorrect. So let me break it down for you if I may. Firstly, you need to understand that racism is power! In other words, regardless of your race you simply cannot be a racist without power. Because to be a racist you need to have power and control over the people's lives you're racist towards. Now, what kind of power? Simply wealth, which can be anything from the natural resources to money. Hence, that's why the apartheid government was a system of racism because it was controlled and run by racist white people, who wanted nothing but to control and preserve most of the wealth, including the natural resources of the country only for white people in their white segregated neighborhoods. Thus, that's how the wealth gap was created in South Africa between the races of people, particularly blacks and whites. And I'm not sure if you know this, but in South Africa, we have the highest wealth gap in the world between the haves and have nots. By the way, the haves are mostly white people (i.e., white people own all the banks, thus control the economy of South Africa), and the have nots are majority black people. Which goes back to the apartheid government shutting black people out of the economy, and not even allowing them to use the natural resources of their own native land to establish an economic base for themselves. So, now understand that all the problems we have in this nation stem from the wealth gap crisis we have. All the forms of inequalities we have and are currently experiencing in this nation can be traced back to the wealth gap crisis. For instance, there's a reason why rich and poor people don't live in the same communities’ side by side. Simply because the poor cannot afford. Rich people tend to live in highly resourceful expensive communities or when they move into a normal community, they tend to gentrify it to an expensive community as well. Which then ends up pushing all the poor people out of the community due to it being too expensive to live in. Hence, inequality is born, the wealth gap keeps increasing, and unfortunately, in South Africa we have a similar problem. The majority of people are facing an affordability crisis, which then increases the racial tension between the people in the nation due to the wealth gap crisis. So, in closing, racism depends on how much power and control one has over other people. Without power which is wealth or money one cannot efficiently practiced racism because you need to have power in order to control. Thus, one without power can only be prejudiced or discriminate based on other forms such as ethnicity, gender, or religious beliefs and so on. Similarly, two people of the same race cannot be racist towards each other, but can only be prejudiced, or discriminate based on other forms as well.
Freedom fighter? South Africans are not free☹️, police moral low, I belong to a CPF , local security companies helping with crime prevention, all sectors must come together from community to provincial to find answers because at the moment it's dysfunctional 🙏
Is this person that can represent the anc and the way he talk like texi driver not minister of internal security he must step down from the minister to be freedom fight won't work women and kids are abused and people are killed the community work ask him question the writer
What has Apartheid got to do with Minister Cele being incapable of doing his job. He just needs to step down and let those who can do the job, do the job. Plenty of Black people including the EFF told him he cannot do his job.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SEND THIS MAN BACK TO ROBBEN ISLAND.IF YOU SO PROUD OF BEING A SLAVE CELE PLEASE GO BACK TO BEING ONE.WE NEED FREE THINKING PEOPLE LIKE IAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY NOT PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE MINISTER BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPRISONED.CELE GLORIFYING SLAVERY LIKE THE PROS THAT COME WITH GANGSTERISM.HE A BIG SHOT BECAUSE HE WAS A SLAVE IN PRISON EXACTLY LIKE THE PRISON GANG MEMBERS ACT.PLEASE CELE LOCK YOURSELF UP IN ROBBEN ISLAND PRISON.CLEARLY YOU HAVE MORE DESIRE TO DIE IN ROBBEN ISLAND ,THEN RUN A COUNTRY. YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING BEEN POOR BUT GUESS WHAT - MANY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET STILL ARE. YOU PLAY THE VICTIM AND EXPECT THE REST OF SOUTH AFRICA TO PLAY THE IDIOT.YOU ACCUSE OTHERS FREELY. I ACCUSE YOU FOR BEING A BRAT.GO LEARN MANNERS .BEING A MINISTER NOW YOU DIVORCED YOUR MANNERS.GO BACK TO ROBBEN ISLAND TO FIND IT PLEASE.AND YES IM JUDGING YOU.DONT JUDGE PEOPLE CELE . THE SAME WILL BE DONE UNTO YOU.WHY YOU PICK ON THE WHITE GUY ONLY.IF SOMEONE CRITISIZE YOU ,THEN HE A RACIST,SO IF THE BLACK BOSS ASK THE WHITE MAN TO DO HIS JOB ,THAT RACISM ALSO. YOU SAY YOU FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE BUT YOU ONLY FIGHTING AGAINST PEOPLE.YOU DONT PUT YOURSELF ABOVE OTHERS.MANDELA NEVER DID HE WAS TOO HUMBLE AND KNEW OTHER PEOPLE MORE WORSE OF THAN HIM LIKE SLEEPING ON STREETS HOMELESS.THE WHOLE WORLD IS FULL OF POVERTY CELE.YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT.GO SPEAK LIKE THAT INFRONT OF THE UNITED NATIONS I DARE YOU.TELL THE WHOLE WORLD U.N ABOUT HOW POOR YOU GREW UP.YOUR POVERTY SHOULD BE THE GLOBAL CRISIS TOPIC FOR U.N. WHAT FOLLOWS AFTER THAT BUT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT;IAN SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR WARCRIMES BROUGHT BEFORE A WAR TRIBUNAL AND HIS CRIME MUST BE FOR HURTING YOUR FEELINGS.CELE SOUTH AFRICANS CAN QUESTION YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GOD OK.DONT BE ARROGANT ACT LIKE MANDELA.THOUSANDS OF WHITE JOURNALIST. INTEREVIEWED HIM AND HE WAS PRESIDENT AND ALWAYS HAD GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.PLEASE THE WORLD HAVE ENOUGH ISSUES ALREADY.WE DONT WANNA MAKE YOUR LIFE ANOTHER WORLD ISSUE TO DEAL WITH.
Bheki Cele has PTSD why is he even a minister?..all these ministers keep bringing up old wounds in justifying the ruined ANC government. It's becoming clear our black leaders have not healed properly from their past inflictions, it's sad our country seems to be still stuck in Apartheid, psychologically.
I hate news that report like this... this kind of reporting is a propagandist style and I hate it so much... What did the Young Man say?!!!!... I don't know what happened but a good reporter would have atleast showed us how the exchange started, not push their story down our throats
We are tired of the YOU OWE ME GENERATION get over it a new generation is here. Sad day for Minister Cele, Perhaps it's tiime to go on pension 🙏 ANC IS DOOMED.
Ian Cameron stood his ground and he shook the room. We need us young people to stand up to authority that does NOTHING for us as a country. South Africa, Johannesburg 📍
Beki Cele's emotions will not solve the problem, whether he nearly died or his mother was called names fighting for black freedom, yes that was good for him to get a chance to be a leader in the country he fought for, but that is not solving any problem in the blacks neighborhood, black neighborhoods monstrous and unsafe, crime is too dangerous, and Cele seat there and lie.
1 October 2018. Bheki Cele came to Westbury, Johannesburg in order to address an ongoing issue regarding violence, drugs and gangsterism after the community protested with a complete shut down in and around the Westbury Area. He was heavily guarded with body guards and armored cars and the army was also present with armored cars, tanks and helicopters as he addressed the community on the soccer fields of Westbury. Promises were made that the following day (2 October 2018), there would be heavy police presence in the community in order to combat the violence that had plagued the community for months on end with innocent people dying daily due to stray bullets and association to these gangsters (Family members, Partners ect.). Until the time of writing...the same issues still plagues the community, in fact it's gotten worse because it's now spread into the surrounding areas with old feuds being rekindled, and up until today the police presence has decreased instead of increasing with no word from Bheki since then !!! He will become defensive when being questioned about these issues because he knows that he has failed the people before, and is currently failing them again. People are dying daily while his pockets are being lined but that's okay because he got cold a couple of nights many decades ago.
What I see is that we are a scared generation to stand for what is right for us. We always look for a hero to fight our battles and give them praises when they have done it for us well. We need a generation that have the same fighting spirit like the generation of 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980. As soon as we stop worrying about how we should look and sound in our societies in this country and start fighting these politicians we are not going anywhere.
Please what's happening to your people now u can control your job that guy wasting hes Time to help people that dont appreciate you my guy leave let them do the job that will never be done
News flash... Wooow what a publishing ???? Maybe before placing on social media that the actual placement was done in such way to create awareness among the people of SA after being considered/ investigated. That it was carefully considered and over thinked on what to be done after ever1 done their homework and that the shut up word never sufaced . What was achieved as a result of this ?????
Clearly 90% of the police are on the payrolls of the criminals I don't know why bekhi can't pick it up all government departments are as much corrupt, traffic. Health, home affairs etc it's a shame wake up south Africa you can't clap hands for minester he was out of order ian spot on
Mr Cele may I please remind you that we are way past the garden boy Era, stop using that as your defence we're tied of it. So bcoz you went to prison so we must just shut up and let you shout.
The young man should have just sat down in silence and listen instead of answering back when Cele was still talking. Respect has to be mutual Cele was listening to him without answering back until he has finished his submission and it was just prudent for him to sit and listen instead of provoking the the elder.
Where I come from we have a saying that translated says " past harvest's will not soothe the crying child" It speaks to how one should still be working in the present and not only point to past achievements Bheki Cele is busy talking about how he fought for people's rights etc but what is he currently doing for the people?
He was escorted by SAPS??!!! No He was forcefully removed by SAPS under Cele's orders. Cele was found unfit to perform his required duties which resulted in the removal from his office. Lets rather ask the question, Who re-employed him to the very same role whilst he was found underperforming previously?! He should be removed from his duties, never to return. Its very clear that he (Cele) is deliberately turning a blind eye on the major crime in South Africa. His more concerned about his personal status than that of what his employed for. What an utter disgrace to SAPS
Many were exiled, many fought for this country, however, if you are not effectively doing your job, must be dealt with and corrected decisively. Many police have lost plot or rather object of their duties, which is to protect and serve the society. With that being said i completely endorse the guy who stood for the truth. this is not about race or traumatic events that happened in the past but rather it about what is happening now. The reality.
Now it's time we as south African citizens make that change not only with bheki...we need to get rid of all da corrupt politicians...water ...electricity....looting all problems...haiboo ...we can't do dis anymore
Cele is a minister! Why is he taking this person? We hear your story sir but relax!...... Go and patrol in the streets of Khayelitsha without your body guards and tell us if you sing the same tune!
Also I personally don't care a damn about the minister's past. A lot of our people suffered and a lot more are still suffering. Past is the past, what are we doing for the current situations. How do we secure a good future for the younger generation. Ongazo nxhela ngo mah wakho who was a domestic worker, at least she had a job. Young South Africans are without access to basics and employment and we're expected to listen to someone telling us about apartheid. Ey tyma, if you want to dwell in the past then maybe you're not fit for your position. We will never move forward if we remain people of the past
This white guy was telling the truth
I am proudly EFF member, and what Ian Cameron said is true. I salute him
Why can't you just say 'This guy is telling the truth'. Another brainwashed racist
Stop being proud and start supporting him
@@bornifacekaone189 EFF are just hot air. Wake up.
Stop saying a person is white or black. Just say this guy, you become part of the problem of racism
Cele was out of order, the past won't help us currently. the people need solutions for the current situations.
Thank you Cele. Now all of the world knows what IDIOT is in charge of safety and security. No wonder crime is out of control.
Salute to Ian Cameron for calling out Cele on his BS.
South africa is jokes all over the world people watching this news lesson him saying that. This man is a killer him self criminal man
We are tired of having to listen to exile stories and robbin island stories. We need practical solutions NOW !!!
Exactly its getting old now. These black leaders like Cele are suffering from PTSD in my opinion and they are just too psychologically weak to let go of their power over people hence they continue to justify the ANC government ruling with the same old stories and experiences from the Aparttheid era. I think it's time we move on as a country from this current ruling party.
anc ,you and me are dealing with a problem that would take a hundred years to repair..its not so easy if everyone is not on the same page.who are they going to replace anc with. thats the big worry.. 26 years and the country was sabotage on all levels.yes the anc were corrupt but their corruption is small to what state the country was handed over.
So true and well said.
This nonsense of history from exhale is doing us no good looters and corrupt officials playing victims
True, that is how they captured people's minds. Race baiting is getting lame as they living luxurious lifestyles and keep on taking about the past. This thieves allowing our people to be killed
Good on you Ian. Screw the ANC Govt.
Bheki Cele should've stayed on Robben Island
@@liamrencontre 😆😆😆😆😆
Mr hat was shouting why?. Because the truth hurts. And he is a useless minister of what. Cant call that police.
Basically Cele played the race card here...
I agree with you
This race thing is out of fashion, people must get over this race issue its getting old "Really now"...🙄🙄🙄! Move on
If its ugly like this in ANC imagen EFF ruling RSA yeer .....
@@thabisomodisane1435 yooooooh thabiso🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️🙆♂️EFF would be a disaster, we will suffer more if that party rules! It's a big no no!
Whenever someones in competencies are showed, the race card is played...
Minister " I fought, I slept in the cold, I nearly deid......." everything is in the past, how I wish he said I'm fighting, I'm sleeping sleeping in the cold, I'm dying for human rights.
You're a wise man!!!... Extremely wise comment!!! 👍🖐️🤝🌈
@@frederikmare9002 thank you comrade Mare, these people should focus on the current situations and find solutions instead of telling us about what they did.
@@brianmubanga3508 I agree 💯!!! You and I speak the exact same language!!! 👍🖐️🤝
😳is Cele okay? what's wrong with him?we not gonna sit listen to him if he behave like this. what he said is in past we are moving forward they are not doing their job.
He was high relax. That's why he thought everyone will be on his side 😂. Using apartheid as an escape goat
Is that the behaviour of a minister? What a disgrace!!!
It's time to step aside for these pensioners! We need a referendum pls.....mentally, emotionally the minister needs to check himself in, soonest. This anger may kill someone and add to GBV and violence from the very one who must protect us...aaai this is sad!!!
You right
Well said
Ja,chase the guy away that actually helps the community on his own time.The Minister will return to 'help' and ask for suggestions in seven months time.
Public meeting.. shouting at a member of the public...this leads to disrespect of the people
He can sue Cele and I sincerely hope he does. Cele’s response was totally out of control
It wasn’t even relevant to this matter. Too emotional for nothing
I hope so really
For a minister to do that instead of addressing the issue he is busy playing victims father garden boy that's nonsense
Cele just proved himself as just another Black politician fascinated with race. Looking at someone as white first and not listening to what they have to say.
Did You have to mention "Black"?
@@gamewoodfilms-game2917 I would love not to. SA would be so much better if nobody would ever be referred to or treated in terms of their skin colour. But the ANC's political (and EFF's) basic argument always starts with racism and reacting to historical racism by applying racism today. This Cele incident illustrates this well and thus "Black politician" refers to the state of the ANC and EFF's political play of racism to garner the majority vote and retain power, even in abject failure.
💯 correct
Now we can see why we have moral degeneration amongst the youth, how can this old man just attack a young man like that. He is older and should first show respect to earn it.
Im on the white guys side, you cant just kick him out because you dislike wat hes saying, but these old guys live in the past 😭
@@l.m90 Do you know that in South Africa we have the highest wealth gap amongst citizens! And that the wealth gap exists in the racial line of people in this nation! And that the wealth gap is the cause of all inequalities and most of the crime as well as racial tension in this nation! So, yeah, "everything is about race" and it will continue to stay like that until the wealth gap no longer exists! Hence, reparation is needed to bridge the wealth gap and not affirmative action policies like we have!!!
PS: The 'past' represents 'history', and history is the greatest teacher! Thus, only those who comprehend history are best suited to talk about the present and lead! So, yeah! Being stuck in the past is not a bad thing if you use that time to learn more about the history!!!🤔
How patronising of Cele. His points were so irrelevant.
ANC is stuck in the past We can never move forward with these oldies
Serious Sophia this race thing is out fashion, these oldies must move on! Really now
We'll move forward after black people get reparation to bridge the wealth gap that was created by the apartheid government. Thus, that has continued till this day to put most black people in servitude positions to the other races of people in this nation.
@@stanzankosi66And here I was thinking that racism and white supremacy are the biggest roots of all problems we have in this world!!! Apparently I was wrong😮💨 because according to you the "race thing is out of fashion" and that means racism as well I'm guessing!!!🤔
Yeah man, most people are actually done looking for negative crap. Perhaps you should consider therapy, not trying to be mean, you seem broken. Most people get along well.
@@redpilled9595 Getting along and equality are two different situations. People get along with dogs, but don’t see nor treat dogs as equal to them! Because equality is only determined by how much power (which is wealth, money) all sides have in this world. Hence, that is why rich people are not equal to poor people in terms of power and influence in this world, regardless of if they get along or not. And in South Africa the wealth gap is the highest in the world! Now between which races of people I will let you figure out that yourself.
My point is that getting along is meaningless unless these equality between the races of people in this nation. Why? Because powerless people are always dependent on the powerful for survival and just about everything in life. And if the powerful decide to mistreat the powerless, these nothing the powerless that they can do, except endure! Now is that a good reality? Hell no!!! Thus, my comment to @So phia!!!
Respect for this guy standing his ground.
Let's vote wisely in 2024
I hope people are watching cause Woooow I can’t wait for 2024 to vote 🗳
@@bontle4157 you and who.your vote is your secret.
You and who vote wisely. My vote is my secret. Don't try to convince people to vote for your favorite party. Everyone has a choice. Wait for 2024
@@bontle4157 all Cele said was that i gave you a chance to speak. Let me speak now. And you guys are saying he was wrong. Wow.
I hope I'm still able to live in SA by 2024
Reading these comments I am starting to get hope for the future with the younger generation, just when I was starting to lose hope.
I hope you guys build a better, stronger and more united country with all South Africans participating, than just falling back into the past and playing victims.
Playing victims how exactly?🤔
@@samkelisothabede7366 cards.
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Next time when you feel the need to criticise or comment or make a suggestion about the leadership of this nation! Don't use black people's history of suffering to do so!!! Especially if you gonna state something, then fail to support it to make sense. It's very disrespectful!!! As the current generation, we may not be physically oppressed like in the apartheid era, however, we still are economically oppressed because the wealth gap was not created by the democratic government but the apartheid government. And as long the wealth gap still exists most black people will always remain in servitude positions to the other races of people in this nation. We need reparation to bridge the wealth gap not affirmative action, like most groups of people who have been oppressed in this world (i.e., Jews). Secondly, we the current generation, although not physically oppressed, but we carry with us the psychological traumas that were passed down from our grandparents to our parents to us presently!!! Not to mention colonisation black people's way of life being destroyed and altered to make way for the colonisers. Hence the Day of Reconciliation did nothing for black people except help to reveal and confirm some of the horrors and vicious brutality done to us. So, we NOT PLAYING VICTIMS we're VICTIMS and we'll continue to be victims for generations to come until the wealth gap cease to exist. By then no race of people will be dependent on another for survival!!! 🤔
@@samkelisothabede7366 Ahh get a grip on life. My comment was positive. You are ranting on.
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The Whites are the Victims baba..not you,those days are long over.
Is he supposed to be a symbol of safety & security? Because he really scares me, and I'm innocent.
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How can the minister dishonor people who work in a kitchen or in a garden. No work is below or above one another, I also clean the kitchen floor, wash the dishes and prepare food and mow the lawn, cut trees and plant flowers. My work is NOT at a lower standard than his because he earns more money than me! I am seriously provoked about this!
That also hurt my feelings we have family members who are working hard as gardeners and domestic workers and you know what they are surviving and living! It was disrespect to the domestic workers and gardeners for cele to look down on our fathers & mothers like that
Atrocious behavior for a so called minister. They are public servants paid salaries they don't deserve. 😡👇🏾
Bheki Cele is an embarrassment!! And needs to step down!!
For what ?
@@sihlemondi6363 for not doing his job in protecting citizens and running the SA police services correctly!!!
A huge round of applause for Ian, we are in a state of crisis in SA NOW, whats in the past cant be forgotten but we need to focus on the present to prepare for the future. Cele must stop wanting to be politically correct and LISTEN!!!!!!
Well said
Extremely wise comment!!! 👍🤝
I don't care about Cele, I'm so worried about the people who clap hands 🤔😏
Very true what you say. They are hero worshipping cowards acting like they live Cele just for money. They don't care about the people. He controls them with his big mouth. You are very right, I never thought about that.
It's worrying.
Yey labo really got me worried
This government going around annoying everybody Let them rest because they ran out of ideas
Obviously he is only interested in his luxurious lifestyle
Bheki Cele and the clan faught apartheid to live like bourgeoisies, drive in BMW's and Mercedes Benz's. He must resign with his melt down.
Cele wasbout of order🙄yesterday struggles are not today's struggles🙄he is power today and feeds on incompetence because bogus struggle achievements
All these ex freedom fighters need to retire and stop trying to run a country, we will forever be thankful for them but don't embarrass yourself like this on public television
The minister is obviously threatened because of his lack of work
Old story the community accepts the hand of those who reach out to help them, but then sadly bites that hand! They should have boo'd Cele for insulting a community fighter...
Instead they stupidity claped for him
@@mawethumbusi4524 have to apologise to Gugs people: Ian said yesterday it was a group of anc / cele supporters at 1 of the tables who jeered him and cheered cele!
This is precisely why I am absolutely fed up with the ANC. The ANC has always been and still is a freedom fighting organisation and not a governing party. This is evident in that the most recent accomplishment they consistently refer to is the fight for freedom. Unfortunately they are very mistaken. The independence of South Africa is a fight that was fought and won by SOUTH AFRICANS. Every South African should be able to question the efficiency of government. That is the literal definition of democracy.
These people have categorically failed when it comes to governance, protecting and/or growing the economy, and forming strategic policies. For that we have every right to hold them accountable even though we were not there to fight for our country. We are not the enemy!
No a garden boy would have done a better job as a police minister
When Ian said that each detective I'd sitting with 300 cases each and they are junior, just out of college and need help it explains our GBV problem. And the most vulnerable and exposed are those in the poorest communities. I hope Cele makes a plan.
I doubt very much that Cele even noted that. He'll do nothing especially because He was humiliated in the presence of their supporters. Cele is reacting the same way the white supremacy were treating us in this country for telling the truth during Apartheid Regime.
He's more annoyed with the young guy because he's"white" something very ironic because it is in their Charter. To be so Colour Blinded that he can't even pretend? The young man was upset and angry and he couldn't hold back but he didn't deserve to Howling! the least.Cele is suppose to be serving the people not harassing them. Customers are always right and that's the same with Communities served/serviced. That's uncalled for.
You hope Cele Makes a plan. O honey... o honey, that isn't happening
Cele has no plan to fix anything. He is as good as useless.
Summary:
Cele: Fails miserably at his job.
Citizen: "You are failing at your job."
Cele: "You just saying that because I'm black! Get out, you racist!"
This man has serious concerns about the community and the minister of police bullies him using his position of power. Disgusting!!
No compassion for the victims but acted like a victim.
😂😂😂😂 Bheki Cele you must jailed and Zuma is coming for you your traitor
It's just time the youth will remove unwanted things, we did it back then surely we will do it soon
These ANC ministers have been displaying arrogance, disdain and they got away with it for so many years. Why would the minister became irate to hearing the truth. It just goes to show what type of leadership we have in this country Pathetic
We are not going anywhere with this old history people. I can feel that Afriforam is going to get opportunity 😂😂😂
much respect for this I don't understand why he was removed this is south Africa no Nazi Germany we have right for any opinion that come across our mind salute u my man people are dying each and everyday no justice
Sad Day for Minister Cele, Time to go on Pension. 🙏😂🙏
A very simple question regarding the safety of the Nation could not be answered by the Minister of Police. What a disgrace to the world.
So he lost it.....the civic guys won..because they got ..the attention..
Must choose your fights, eh !!!!
But why did he called imbizo if he’s weak to take feedback. And it pathetic to see him playing a struggle card. He need to do his job and stop whining like a baby. Tjooo oCele kant banjan😂
Give Nhlanhla Lux his job. At least he has balls. Cele jou the pride parade.
Doesn't help to visit after crime is done. Preventing is better then cure. Do this minister even know what does mean is another question
It is 2022, Cele, not 1960 and you need to focus on police service delivery and not freedom fighting and Apartheid. Delivery of what you owe the people for their tax
The minister really overreacted and made this about race and yet it wasn't about that at all hey.
Disgusting really Hon Mr Ramaphosa council your Minister Cele for conducting himself this badly. Wish the whole clip was played. To tell people to shut up !!! The are citizens not underaged children and even if ttey were ..... sies Mnr Cele
Respect Ian Cameron.... You are a true South African that cares for the people of South Africa.
What is he talking about minister of police going around..Where is his assistant.He was a racist here
Racist how exactly? 🤔
he invited the minister to do patrols without his bodyguards and fancy vehicles so that the minister can see the reality south africans are facing each and every day. no racism there
@@samkelisothabede7366 he called a community worker a racist solely because he was white. That is racist.
@@gordonhopkins4658 Wait!!! Wait!!! Wait!!!🤨Are you trying to tell me that calling someone a racist means you’re a racist as well! Because if that's the logic, that means the same logic should apply as well when calling someone else, perhaps a thief, bigotry, stupid, and so on. However, that's not the case isn't! Calling someone else, something basically implies how you personally perceive them to be. So, your logic and reasoning behind your comment doesn't make sense, and not to mention, where in the video does the minister actually utters the word racist to Ian Cameron. Hence, I think you're being too emotional in your response, and you're using the reverse racist card to play victim. Nevertheless, don't get me wrong with my stance, I'm fully behind Ian Cameron's side! I believe his inquires to the minister was just and reasonable too. Although, I feel like emotions did fly out of control from both sides, but that's just my own observation!!! 🤔
Secondly, I think your entire understanding of what racism actually is, is incorrect. So let me break it down for you if I may. Firstly, you need to understand that racism is power! In other words, regardless of your race you simply cannot be a racist without power. Because to be a racist you need to have power and control over the people's lives you're racist towards. Now, what kind of power? Simply wealth, which can be anything from the natural resources to money. Hence, that's why the apartheid government was a system of racism because it was controlled and run by racist white people, who wanted nothing but to control and preserve most of the wealth, including the natural resources of the country only for white people in their white segregated neighborhoods. Thus, that's how the wealth gap was created in South Africa between the races of people, particularly blacks and whites. And I'm not sure if you know this, but in South Africa, we have the highest wealth gap in the world between the haves and have nots. By the way, the haves are mostly white people (i.e., white people own all the banks, thus control the economy of South Africa), and the have nots are majority black people. Which goes back to the apartheid government shutting black people out of the economy, and not even allowing them to use the natural resources of their own native land to establish an economic base for themselves.
So, now understand that all the problems we have in this nation stem from the wealth gap crisis we have. All the forms of inequalities we have and are currently experiencing in this nation can be traced back to the wealth gap crisis. For instance, there's a reason why rich and poor people don't live in the same communities’ side by side. Simply because the poor cannot afford. Rich people tend to live in highly resourceful expensive communities or when they move into a normal community, they tend to gentrify it to an expensive community as well. Which then ends up pushing all the poor people out of the community due to it being too expensive to live in. Hence, inequality is born, the wealth gap keeps increasing, and unfortunately, in South Africa we have a similar problem. The majority of people are facing an affordability crisis, which then increases the racial tension between the people in the nation due to the wealth gap crisis.
So, in closing, racism depends on how much power and control one has over other people. Without power which is wealth or money one cannot efficiently practiced racism because you need to have power in order to control. Thus, one without power can only be prejudiced or discriminate based on other forms such as ethnicity, gender, or religious beliefs and so on. Similarly, two people of the same race cannot be racist towards each other, but can only be prejudiced, or discriminate based on other forms as well.
Cele, we talking about present. Stop this History lecture.
Freedom fighter? South Africans are not free☹️, police moral low, I belong to a CPF , local security companies helping with crime prevention, all sectors must come together from community to provincial to find answers because at the moment it's dysfunctional 🙏
Is this person that can represent the anc and the way he talk like texi driver not minister of internal security he must step down from the minister to be freedom fight won't work women and kids are abused and people are killed the community work ask him question the writer
What has Apartheid got to do with Minister Cele being incapable of doing his job. He just needs to step down and let those who can do the job, do the job. Plenty of Black people including the EFF told him he cannot do his job.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SEND THIS MAN BACK TO ROBBEN ISLAND.IF YOU SO PROUD OF BEING A SLAVE CELE PLEASE GO BACK TO BEING ONE.WE NEED FREE THINKING PEOPLE LIKE IAN TO RUN THIS COUNTRY NOT PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY DESERVE TO BE MINISTER BECAUSE THEY WERE IMPRISONED.CELE GLORIFYING SLAVERY LIKE THE PROS THAT COME WITH GANGSTERISM.HE A BIG SHOT BECAUSE HE WAS A SLAVE IN PRISON EXACTLY LIKE THE PRISON GANG MEMBERS ACT.PLEASE CELE LOCK YOURSELF UP IN ROBBEN ISLAND PRISON.CLEARLY YOU HAVE MORE DESIRE TO DIE IN ROBBEN ISLAND ,THEN RUN A COUNTRY. YOU TALK ABOUT HAVING BEEN POOR BUT GUESS WHAT - MANY PEOPLE ON THE PLANET STILL ARE. YOU PLAY THE VICTIM AND EXPECT THE REST OF SOUTH AFRICA TO PLAY THE IDIOT.YOU ACCUSE OTHERS FREELY. I ACCUSE YOU FOR BEING A BRAT.GO LEARN MANNERS .BEING A MINISTER NOW YOU DIVORCED YOUR MANNERS.GO BACK TO ROBBEN ISLAND TO FIND IT PLEASE.AND YES IM JUDGING YOU.DONT JUDGE PEOPLE CELE . THE SAME WILL BE DONE UNTO YOU.WHY YOU PICK ON THE WHITE GUY ONLY.IF SOMEONE CRITISIZE YOU ,THEN HE A RACIST,SO IF THE BLACK BOSS ASK THE WHITE MAN TO DO HIS JOB ,THAT RACISM ALSO. YOU SAY YOU FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE BUT YOU ONLY FIGHTING AGAINST PEOPLE.YOU DONT PUT YOURSELF ABOVE OTHERS.MANDELA NEVER DID HE WAS TOO HUMBLE AND KNEW OTHER PEOPLE MORE WORSE OF THAN HIM LIKE SLEEPING ON STREETS HOMELESS.THE WHOLE WORLD IS FULL OF POVERTY CELE.YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT.GO SPEAK LIKE THAT INFRONT OF THE UNITED NATIONS I DARE YOU.TELL THE WHOLE WORLD U.N ABOUT HOW POOR YOU GREW UP.YOUR POVERTY SHOULD BE THE GLOBAL CRISIS TOPIC FOR U.N. WHAT FOLLOWS AFTER THAT BUT BECAUSE YOU WANT IT;IAN SHOULD BE ARRESTED FOR WARCRIMES BROUGHT BEFORE A WAR TRIBUNAL AND HIS CRIME MUST BE FOR HURTING YOUR FEELINGS.CELE SOUTH AFRICANS CAN QUESTION YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT GOD OK.DONT BE ARROGANT ACT LIKE MANDELA.THOUSANDS OF WHITE JOURNALIST. INTEREVIEWED HIM AND HE WAS PRESIDENT AND ALWAYS HAD GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.PLEASE THE WORLD HAVE ENOUGH ISSUES ALREADY.WE DONT WANNA MAKE YOUR LIFE ANOTHER WORLD ISSUE TO DEAL WITH.
Very immatured for the minister to behave in that manner. South African we are in big trouble, ANC must ship out.
Bheki Cele has PTSD why is he even a minister?..all these ministers keep bringing up old wounds in justifying the ruined ANC government. It's becoming clear our black leaders have not healed properly from their past inflictions, it's sad our country seems to be still stuck in Apartheid, psychologically.
You Saffas will find peace in about 2 to 3 generations...
a skelm in the first degree
I hate news that report like this... this kind of reporting is a propagandist style and I hate it so much... What did the Young Man say?!!!!... I don't know what happened but a good reporter would have atleast showed us how the exchange started, not push their story down our throats
The news agencies are captured my friend...why there is always one narrative
Plenty of videos on RUclips.
@@deonbroodryk3167 its still poor journalism.
What did Ian say, his clip is omitted
He said '......your nonsense.,.' to Mr Cele
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And they give Cele a round of applause 🙄
His people kaloku 😤
We are tired of the YOU OWE ME GENERATION get over it a new generation is here. Sad day for Minister Cele, Perhaps it's tiime to go on pension 🙏 ANC IS DOOMED.
Ian Cameron stood his ground and he shook the room. We need us young people to stand up to authority that does NOTHING for us as a country.
South Africa, Johannesburg 📍
Beki Cele's emotions will not solve the problem, whether he nearly died or his mother was called names fighting for black freedom, yes that was good for him to get a chance to be a leader in the country he fought for, but that is not solving any problem in the blacks neighborhood, black neighborhoods monstrous and unsafe, crime is too dangerous, and Cele seat there and lie.
1 October 2018. Bheki Cele came to Westbury, Johannesburg in order to address an ongoing issue regarding violence, drugs and gangsterism after the community protested with a complete shut down in and around the Westbury Area.
He was heavily guarded with body guards and armored cars and the army was also present with armored cars, tanks and helicopters as he addressed the community on the soccer fields of Westbury.
Promises were made that the following day (2 October 2018), there would be heavy police presence in the community in order to combat the violence that had plagued the community for months on end with innocent people dying daily due to stray bullets and association to these gangsters (Family members, Partners ect.).
Until the time of writing...the same issues still plagues the community, in fact it's gotten worse because it's now spread into the surrounding areas with old feuds being rekindled, and up until today the police presence has decreased instead of increasing with no word from Bheki since then !!!
He will become defensive when being questioned about these issues because he knows that he has failed the people before, and is currently failing them again.
People are dying daily while his pockets are being lined but that's okay because he got cold a couple of nights many decades ago.
What I see is that we are a scared generation to stand for what is right for us. We always look for a hero to fight our battles and give them praises when they have done it for us well.
We need a generation that have the same fighting spirit like the generation of 1950, 1960, 1970, and 1980.
As soon as we stop worrying about how we should look and sound in our societies in this country and start fighting these politicians we are not going anywhere.
Today you give as that food you are just running away from truth minister
Please what's happening to your people now u can control your job that guy wasting hes Time to help people that dont appreciate you my guy leave let them do the job that will never be done
Wow.... Mr. Minister...😮
So shoe fit on Bheki Cele feet
News flash... Wooow what a publishing ???? Maybe before placing on social media that the actual placement was done in such way to create awareness among the people of SA after being considered/ investigated. That it was carefully considered and over thinked on what to be done after ever1 done their homework and that the shut up word never sufaced . What was achieved as a result of this ?????
Can we get to hear what this guy said in full please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Minister ignored the actual fact. By raising the apartheid issues
Where is this speech ?
Much respect for you sir
Ian YES...Cele...Hell NO!
Clearly 90% of the police are on the payrolls of the criminals I don't know why bekhi can't pick it up all government departments are as much corrupt, traffic. Health, home affairs etc it's a shame wake up south Africa you can't clap hands for minester he was out of order ian spot on
This guy from Action is right
Ian u the MAN OF PURE GUTS N INTREGITY 👌💪💪💪...cele..sit down or sharrruup n get out..foetsak man
He had to play the 'garden boy' card.
He sounds drunk in his voice Cele
Yes that's three-ships talking for sure
He’s lived that life and it’s time to cash in huh 🤔. I respect everything they did but it’s time to let this generation go!!!
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Mr Cele may I please remind you that we are way past the garden boy Era, stop using that as your defence we're tied of it. So bcoz you went to prison so we must just shut up and let you shout.
The young man should have just sat down in silence and listen instead of answering back when Cele was still talking. Respect has to be mutual Cele was listening to him without answering back until he has finished his submission and it was just prudent for him to sit and listen instead of provoking the the elder.
What did this Ian say before Bheki Cele was on the podium??? Any videos on what Cameron said???
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I honestly fear for Mr Ian Cameron's life now.
Where I come from we have a saying that translated says " past harvest's will not soothe the crying child"
It speaks to how one should still be working in the present and not only point to past achievements
Bheki Cele is busy talking about how he fought for people's rights etc but what is he currently doing for the people?
He was escorted by SAPS??!!! No He was forcefully removed by SAPS under Cele's orders. Cele was found unfit to perform his required duties which resulted in the removal from his office. Lets rather ask the question, Who re-employed him to the very same role whilst he was found underperforming previously?! He should be removed from his duties, never to return. Its very clear that he (Cele) is deliberately turning a blind eye on the major crime in South Africa. His more concerned about his personal status than that of what his employed for. What an utter disgrace to SAPS
One sided reporting. 08:00 question not answered. I’d like to hear all sides before making a judgement call.
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Many were exiled, many fought for this country, however, if you are not effectively doing your job, must be dealt with and corrected decisively. Many police have lost plot or rather object of their duties, which is to protect and serve the society. With that being said i completely endorse the guy who stood for the truth. this is not about race or traumatic events that happened in the past but rather it about what is happening now. The reality.
Now it's time we as south African citizens make that change not only with bheki...we need to get rid of all da corrupt politicians...water ...electricity....looting all problems...haiboo ...we can't do dis anymore
Cele just made a fool of himself...the truth hurts....
Cele is a minister! Why is he taking this person? We hear your story sir but relax!...... Go and patrol in the streets of Khayelitsha without your body guards and tell us if you sing the same tune!
Also I personally don't care a damn about the minister's past. A lot of our people suffered and a lot more are still suffering. Past is the past, what are we doing for the current situations. How do we secure a good future for the younger generation. Ongazo nxhela ngo mah wakho who was a domestic worker, at least she had a job. Young South Africans are without access to basics and employment and we're expected to listen to someone telling us about apartheid. Ey tyma, if you want to dwell in the past then maybe you're not fit for your position. We will never move forward if we remain people of the past
The real fighters of apartheid was those who fight ,Who stood f2f with apartheid police and did not fled the country . Those are the real heroes .
The white man Is telling Truth Bheki Cele and Ramaphosa turned blind eye when people were dying due to Protection Fee😡
Bheki Cele Must Fall. SA we need to take bold decisions.