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satanic panic truly is a first world problem, as a resident of a so called developing country i am much more concerned about the child mothers and the women who are killed just for being women in disgusting, alarmingly increasing numbers. what is happening with DC is simply an artist not liking her previous albums and now she wants a new aesthetic and maybe a new sound.
You are right -- I think the scapegoating in developing countries is often easier, because oppressed groups have yet to have grabbed more power. So, it's enough to be a woman that upsets someone to get shunned or killed. The mechanism is largely the same, though: create an in-group and an out-group and vilify that out-group to the point that they get shunned and eventually killed. We can look at history in the imperial core, where we had witch burnings, clearly aimed at women, and various waves of repression of women that led to less spectacular, but very real deaths. Even in something as simple as the Comstock era in the States (mirrored in different ways across the world, and I am sure still going on in many places in the imperial periphery), where simply denying the distribution of any kind of contraception, or information on the subject was labeled as pornography and thus prohibited. It led to countless deaths of women dying not only in childbirth, but from various complications from having children, and having too many of them, along with not knowing how their bodies worked (uterine prolapse, fissures leading to infection, ovarian torsion, etc etc etc). As Shanspeare mentions, we also have seen similar patterns arise to try to destroy Jewish people, black people, etc. Who is the victim doesn't really matter for this strategy to work. Whether you call it Satanism or Witchcraft or Immorality, Christianity, or even Socialism and ANTIFA, the important part is that the powerful need to have a scapegoat, and convince people to go after these supposedly evil people so they don't have to, or so they can implement draconian measures to suppress them. And regardless of who we are and where we are, it is our job to resist othering and dehumanizing, mass slaughters and incarcerations. We need to make sure we keep our eye on what's important, or enemy is not among us -- our enemy are the richest and most powerful people in the world. And we need to protect those who are marginalized, for whatever reason, even when we don't like that marginalized group. Fight the powerful, protect the victims, always.
I agree with you to some extent. While there are far more important issues around the world, I think it's worth discussing bc at least in México satanic panic (alongside colonialism ofc) has gone far enough to cause harm in indigenous communities, and even to animals that happen to live close by.
As someone from the global South and an overexploited country, I disagree. If you mean the way *Christians* think this is an issue, then I agree. But if you mean in the way this non-issue is used to persecute native populations (like the earlier comment mentioned), queer people, atheists, leftists and yeah, all that DOES include women, then I disagree.
i understand respectfully how this issue may have no relevance to residents of countries in the global south, however as someone from the united states who was raised in evangelical christianity, this is an important issue for us in a nation where fascism is on the rise. if the people in my country let instances of satanic panic go unchecked, it will lead to people being hurt in the way you describe above, not just women, but many other marginalized groups. i understand that the issue of global imperialism is a truly complicated one, but that being said, there are marginalized groups in the united states who either do not have the privilege of full citizenship or whose rights to full citizenship are being taken away if people look to oppress them. anyone from trans people to jewish people to indigenous people to non-citizen residents of the united states are at risk of this moralizing thinking, as it's those people who will suffer the impacts of neo-conservativeism that comes with attitudes like the satanic panic.
As someone who was raised by two rock fans and have been on a path to become punk since 12 yo i was shocked to find out that people in 2023 are still screaming "satanism" at horror-themed music videos. Punks, emos and satanists are the nicest and safest people I've ever met as a queer person. Since childhood I've felt calm and safe when i saw colored hair and spikes on people around me. Why do people think that love for dark themes and horror are a sign of mental health problems? It's a way to celebrate instead of being scared, turning horrifying into beautiful.
to quote my late nanna who grew up in the rural australian varient of the panic 'not liking a type of music cause its loud is first sign of old fart'itis but thinking that its a source of evil is some arsebrained bullshit'
Satanism is not a fashion trend, it's about putting your faith in yourself, instead of God and his overflowing and true Kindness and love. The devil perverts love and the Lord's Logo: Aka the Rainbow, to mean something else. The devil only perverts, steals, and destroys.
I cannot help but feel like Doja being a Black AND Jewish person must be the perfect target for these kind of satanic panic weirdos. It’s like the perfect intersection for them
It is real hollywood satanism and if you haven't seen through it yet than only Jesus may help you. Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.
That has nothing to do with it honestly. 9 times out of 10 people don't even know her mom is Jewish. And literally what does black have to do with Satanism
@@gertrudesatekge2635satanic panic is inherently anti black. If you ever noticed anytime a black artists becomes extremely big I.e Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, Doja Cat. It’s NEVER due to merit, it’s always due to them “selling their souls”. This was even said about Barack Obama and his family, attributing their success to deals with the devil. These moral panics panic has been around for a long time, even being used as a justification for slavery
@@RaroHiI get how you feel. Although I am German, I have brown hair and brown eyes. Many people mistake me for a Turkish woman (it’s okay, I don’t mind). But what I do mind is that Nazis are on the rise and they target foreigners. Stay safe
THANK YOU for calling it by its name, it's hilarious honestly, how some people are trying to say this is a new fear or thing that artists are doing. Conservatives always been scared lol
@@findmyat no no silly rabbit I said conservative! To say conservative and liberal are the same side is simply untrue. Yes it's all the government, but we, are sadly, a part of the government LOLL well or we are in theory. Anyways sorry but no 😔
Jazz was definitely the devil’s music around the time it emerged more. Same with hip-hop when rock n roll was taking communities by a storm. If it wasn’t quiet, modest and comfortable it was definitely Satanic to both…
its got a lot to do with the commodification and commercialization of alternative fashion. the general aesthetics of subcultures have been coopted by normies and elites (see egirls, "big tiddy goth gf" meme, fashion trends describing celebrities wearing black as "goth," the success of wednesday, and whatever tf doja cat is doing right now) while completely leaving out the politics. since these people are so visible, the same types of conservative folks brigading against punks and metalheads 30-40 years ago direct their immediate ire toward them for their aesthetics even if their ideologies are just as vapid and conformist as ever. meanwhile, actual alternative ppl wouldnt touch those celebrities with a 10 foot pole.
so about the preschooler; he was about two years old & his mum wasn't washing him properly and kept obsessing over his butt and when she took him to the doctor and was told the kid just needed better hygiene and to have her leave it alone to recover she got really distressed and twisted up a story to justify how it wasn't her fault and decided that the best course would be to accuse one of the only men in the school of being an abuser and kept yelling and threatening until other people started getting nervous that she might be right and harassing their children until they'd "confess" something was going on it didnt stop until a large posse had formed and started claiming that anyone not on their side in their frothing condemnations and demands was "in" on it and also assaulting babies up to and including teachers, cops, judges, lawyers, local politicians and other public figures
It's always anything openly horror themed that freaks people out. If the Paint the Town Red video was like Katy Perry's Californa girls music video, people wouldn't really care. The lyrics wouldn’t even bother them as much either. People still fail to stomach art with dark or startling themes. Meanwhile the devil in the bible has been described as beautiful and bright.
Yeah, they took Lucifer from the Roman pantheon of deities. Paradise Lost was the fictional poem about Lucifer being a fallen angel. Someone took that as truth. You know how those translators and ancient religious folks be.
Have you ever considered that the overwhelming majority of people worldwide, regardless of religious or non-religious background, don’t enjoy ambiguous support of Satan (which this clearly is)? When a woman is out here on livestreams saying she loves eating human shit in full-seriousness, is it so hard for you to comprehend people are gonna find her extremely creepy and weird? If this is all merely “art” to you, you are never going to draw the line 🤣 Apparently actual Satanism, in whatever form it’s manifested, will not ever exist to you or be acknowledged by you. Creepy mf
@Ultraaaaa. Its not the Horror themes that’s the problem. The problem is Occult Symbols. Try and do some research into Symbology and History before you put your opinion on something you clearly know nothing about.
@@NuMetalfan1996 Horror is a film genre that seeks to elicit fear or disgust in its audience for entertainment purposes.[2] Horror films often explore dark subject matter and may deal with transgressive topics or themes. Broad elements include monsters, apocalyptic events, and religious or folk beliefs. I believe the horror genre also covers the occult. If someone is upset about something under the horror genre showing occult symbols then they don’t understand the genre. Horror is meant to horrify you and make you clutch your pearls. Adding occult symbols is one way to do that. Or with you, commenting like I did. Do we know whether the artist was going for horror or just plain old occult symbology as a confession of her dark ties? The great thing about art is it’s open for interpretation. You saw it this way and I saw it another way. I’ve been wanting to study history because I think I’d make an awesome history teacher and people need to go back to their history so thanks for the encouragement. Have a great day, friend. ;)
I was rooting for her and laughing at the people mad about her “changing” but her boyfriend j cyrus is a weirdo with allegations and the damage control she’s doing is corny
It makes sense if you see it in the context of her corny self-hating longstanding alignment with genuine fascists tho that everyone seems inexplicably happy to overlook 🙃
As someone who was a long time fan, Doja is dead to me. While I wouldn’t wish borderline anti-semitic behavior towards anyone I also refuse to look away from the fact she has time again worked with and is even dating an abuser, and when it’s brought to her attention she has gone as far as to mock victims. Her ass does NOT deserve a platform
@@mikorisheridan6769 and? the same way black people can set other black people up to be hatecrimed, and queer people can be anti lgbtqia, a jew can contribute to anti-semitism, those things do not cancel each other.
@@jessiklovecine as I said, saying it before someone else does ☠️☠️ she's not a good person she's famous she's probably way way worse than we know. Just wanted to be the one to say it LOL everyone's talking abt her race like it adds to this but as fas as I know people only know she's not Black 100% when they Google it ☠️ and yeah, I know what coons are lol
tbh!! you're right!@@jessiklovecine most of our media is ripe with anti-semitic content and stereotypes in spite of (or maybe because of) so many Hollywood execs being Jewish. What you are doesn't preclude you from condemning your own people (*cough* Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa irt to portrayal of queer youth *cough*).
Your videos have always been phenomenal, but seeing how theatrical and intricate you have made them over time is delightful. There is a debate on if youtube is art, but there is NO question when it comes to your channel. You are an artist.
it's really crazy how they can just recycle this satanic panic thing over and over and over again. they use it on music, on movies, on video games. every few years. how has no one been like 'wow no one has actually been sacrificed this whole time maybe we're blowing things outta proportion'. ugh
While by no means an explanation for everyone who falls for the Satanic Panic, many of them believe in things based on faith, not evidence. Actual evidence may tell them that there’s no proof X celebrity or minority group being heinous baby eaters, but their pastor tells them that there _is_ evidence, it’s just that the devil (and his POC/Jewish/queer/elite cronies) tricks everyone into thinking there is none, and why would the pastor lie to his congregation? “The devil’s greatest trick was convincing people he doesn’t exist” and all that. Also throwing in hints that not believing in a specific take will result in exclusion helps to keep people devoted to the narrative. Why risk shunning and hellfire when fitting in is easier? Faith is fine in moderation, like Shan said, religion can be tremendously helpful for some people, but when it’s used to propagate fear and distrust in the world and is used as a weapon against other people, that’s when it’s gone off the rails. Source: personal experience with fundamental Christian family as a queer agnostic.
Do you know about Franklin? Maybe read some books on the topic. Here are so are some good some good searches ACHRE, Nick Bryant, Finders Cult, mc marten. Oh by the way Nick Bryant did an over an hour interview with an author covering the martin preschool case. The way she is covering this is beyond unintellectual and inaccurate. I don't want to do details but you can research these things in depth not like this women did. Really go watch Conspiracy of silence and read the Franklin cover-up. Don't just read the wiki page and say "see it's all bs." Oh check out the FMSF check out real women real stories the ITNJ. Hmm Occult Hollywood... I just keep watching as this chick says things that I've read about and come to completely different conclusions. I've talked to survivors myself. What do you think about the extreme abuse survey or the ISSTD. God I've done a lot more research than this chick she is wrong about a lot. Honestly it's alarming because there is a multi billion dollar child trafficking market and it's kinda offensive having talked to victims to hear it get denied so hard.
As much as I love you Shanspeare, I feel like the Satanic angle of Doja Cat’s behavior really gave a lot of ppl room to ignore the very real controversy with her partner (who was alleged to groom/abuse multiple women) and her actions towards her fan base. I kinda just wish that was included more within the video bc this conversation seems like a smokescreen against real issues ppl have with Doja in the first place
Exactly! These videos painting doja as a victim (which to an extent, SHE IS) without talking about her current and VERY harmful controversies are strange
YES gd exactly, Doja is using silly little antics to deflect from the very real and serious problem of abuse, and I am stunned at how well it's worked. There were so many commentators (shanspeare included) when i saw their videos I thought "HERE'S someone with critical thinking skills who will give this the attention it deserves" and I have been disappointed EVERY time. It's been fucking depressing. Like...society truly _hates_ victims and people want to think about them as little as possible
Thank you for saying this bc I’ve been noticing the trend of ppl calling everything “satanic” and it’s like…… girls didn’t we do this 30 years ago and it ended HORRIBLY?!
A lot of untrustworthy "authority" figures will lean into this panic and try to market themselves as "protectors" and "defenders of the righteous" but its literally just a grift and a minimal effort grift at that.
absolutely adored the ending bit, you said everything that's been pissing me off about existence in general lately. everything is cringe and nothing is genuine, everything must be perfected and nothing can be "wrong", it's just a shitty, constrictive way of living.
As a pagan satanic panic is something I’ve really struggled with my whole life pretty much, I grew up in a Christian based family and while they weren’t heavily religious they still are deeply effected by the satanic panic and are genuinely afraid of me and my practice for no reason, I’m a green witch who grows plants, I don’t sacrifice children to the devil. Amazing work and thank you so much for covering this topic
@andreajones4884. I think you need to look into Witchcraft and Paganism and where it all started from. I pray that you find the truth into what Witchcraft and Paganism actually are and where to all comes from.
As always, a phenomenal presentation of information ❤ Personally as a Queer person that grew up in the Catholic Church and experienced the impact of shame on my identity enforced by priests in confession booths, mocking the church has allowed me to see their flaws after they tried to pin down mine. I was a kid and they were corrupt idiots.
I was a Goth kid in the 90's who also happened to be Pagan (something only my family and very close friends new until my 20's because of the way things were in the 90's). I listened to Marilyn Manson and I was very unapologetic....in my shitty small Ohio town, no less, where there are churches (mostly Baptist) on just about every corner and the church held such power that we were not even allowed to have Halloween parties in school because the churches said so. And it wasn't fun, to put it mildly. lol The good news is since the 90's, the Church in general has lost a lot of people. I know the majority of people in America still call themselves Christian but when you break that number down, most of those people are not "practicing Christians" who go to church regularly or who really care about it. I feel like we are in a much better place to push back against this new wave of the Satanic Panic than we were in the 90's. More people are openly non-conforming in one way or another today. Maybe I am just an optimist but do feel like the majority of people forty and younger think this is nonsense. I hope..... This video was brilliant as always.
I agree with you, as a fellow goth kid from the nineties, that we are in a better place to resist. It no longer takes moving to the big city to find our community, to band together and organize. And most of my friends my age and younger (surely a self-selecting group, however) have become *more* radical with age, and are really engaging in the politics and not just the aesthetics of resistance. Something to be mindful of: we are seeing a lot of what leftists call "recuperation": this is a commodification of the resistance (not limited just to subcultures) and a resale of it to us. So we see things like major brands and big box stores now carry goth clothing, and we see a lot less DIY clothing than we saw in the nineties (which was already less so here than in Europe, where I grew up, where you had almost no stores that carried goth stuff, so you had to DIY). This incorporates more and more of our aesthetic and consumption into the mainstream, defusing the most radical elements, and lulling us into a false sense of safety. So while I believe it is appropriate to be hopeful, this doesn't mean that we can just stop the fight, cause we ain't close to winning yet. Another thing to think about that is related to the above is that individual consumption and conversion to ideas, or even participating in spirituality and feeling better about ourselves is NOT activism, and does not in and of itself produce change. Wearing a Che Guevara tee doesn't make you a leftist, you have to actually work to make changes, like participating in solidarity efforts, mutual aid, local politics, etc...
@@glenn_desert_witch I've been going to protests since the Bush presidency (my first was a Soldiers Against the War protest where there were maybe at most 20 people, mostly Vietnam vets, because none of the papers in Central Ohio, including the Columbus Dispatch, would allow the people organizing it to advertise it) and we were all called "traitors" and told that we were unAmerican because, as I am sure you remember, speaking out against Bush and the war was treated by a huge portion of our society as an act against America (because they made up the rule that "you can't speak out against the president during the war" which was, of course, thrown out the window when Obama took office) and I have been physically threatened by self-described "patriots" for wearing a John Lennon tee shirt with the "offensive" saying 'Give Peace a Chance' printed across it. As soon as 9/11 happened, the town that hated me all of my life for not conforming anything about myself to what they deemed appropriate had a much bigger reason to hate me because I saw the war as bullshit, started for the express purpose of making the rich richer, just like Vietnam, and I had zero patience for Anti-Muslim attitudes either. That put a target on my back very quickly....Gee, I am happy that I had the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so wrong....lol I do fear that we are headed back in that direction with the Trump cult but the good news is, the people like that are now a minority (about 20 to 30 percent of the country). I have always been very politically far left and I have stayed aware and active. From marriage equality to getting Plan B on store shelves to a decades long fight for reproductive rights to attempting to stand up against racist pigs who get away with killing in cold blood, I studied the biographies and listened to the interviews of activists from my grandparents generation on back and I always tried to see where they went wrong and what they got right. Back in the day I found my fellow millennials to be frustrating as hell because they seemed convinced abortion rights, alongside human rights in general, could never be taken from us so to see that so many have finally opened their eyes since Donald Trump became president makes me happy.... although I wish it wouldn't have taken that since there was plenty of evidence to say that everything going on right now, Trump as president or someone like him as president included, was coming since Reagan's presidency. But it fills me with hope to see how committed Gen Z is to turning this shit show around. The first time I really felt like the left already has the future on lock down was when the Parkland kids staged their walk out and thousands participated even when the schools were threatening to expell them if they walked out. The speeches from the kids at Parkland that day brought me to tears, not only because of how dark the present is but also because it felt for a moment like a progressive future was inevitable. Gen Z has all of the political awareness that my generation did not have at their age and many of them are taking to the streets or the statehouses, they are voting in large numbers, they are calling senators and representatives to tell them just how they feel about the fuckery. I love to see it. If both generations came together, I do believe we could affect change.... before Trump or the many people now in our government who are just like him, actually succeeds in creating a fascist dictatorship which this current Supreme Court would probably be cool with, and the corporate Dems would do what they always do....sit back, allow it to happen, and use it to get more donations. As far as the Goth aesthetic being easily accessible, it is what it is. I am personally a thrift store Trad Goth myself and I have been since the 90's because I was poor and fat so Hot Topic was of no use to me. Lmao The fight over differentiating between those who just like the look and the actual real Goths has been going on since the 90's. And yet there are still people my age who have called themselves Goth for decades who do not know that Goth is a subculture built around Goth music. So I feel the same way I felt back then. There are far bigger things to focus on. Just as there were people who dressed like Punks and called themselves punk who didn't care about the music, so it is with Goth, and that certainly won't be changing now that the look is easier to achieve than ever before. The only time I have an issue is when it's a prep who bullied kids for being Goth one year and popped up dressed like a Goth Lite or a Diet Goth the next (*cough* The very first Emo kids.....). Aside from that, I feel like it just is what it is. I hope you have a good rest of your weekend. 😁
Absolutely right. The true division is only beginning. The world is changing, and the practicing Christians will be divided from the rest of the world. Put your faith in the Lord. Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.
i just broke up with my boyfriend over conspiracies like this. i'm a socialist feminist, it was driving me frickin nuts. he was lovely otherwise, but i can't date someone like that.
hell yeah good for you!! a friend of mine is dating a dude who’s also into conspiracy theories and it’s so annoying lmao. really makes you question that person’s critical thinking skills
@kekoakaawa8879. What do you mean?. The Bible teaches that anyone who admits to their sins, asks for forgiveness, and believes that Jesus died and sacrificed himself for everyone will have salvation and will be saved. The truth is Jesus is the one who loves us all and wants us to repent from our sins because every single one of us are sinners. That’s what the Bible teaches, it teaches forgiveness, but you have to ask for forgiveness.
“She’s not sexy anymore! She couldn’t possibly want to seem unattractive to me so she’s obviously worshipping Satan- and uhhhhh THIS IS A HUMILIATION RITUAL”
She's definitely doing this Scarlet stuff to be edgy and shock people after they spent ages calling her a satanist for looking slightly weird, which good for her, but it's mad disingenuous to act like your discography was just a cashgrab then have the next single you drop sound like a Planet Her reject. I would've rooted for her until she was defending her pedo bf and made the whole thing into how she was actually the victim of parasocial relationships. PTTR wasn't good enough for those hardcore visuals tbh.
No really because she hyped this album to be a harsher and edgier sound when in all honesty all the ep’s she’s dropped so far have an interesting/catchy beat but no real edge to it to justify or support the some of the visuals (I guess she might be going to juxtaposition idk). I guess the beat from Demons works with the visuals but all I hear from the lyrics is a watered down Rico nasty. the weird Uber religious Christian response is really dumb and unfounded especially if you’re actually grounded in your faith and not just posturing
i don't think people understand that the devil is a metaphor for evilness, not a real thing. do people really believe the bible is literal? like they really believe a real snake convinced a woman to eat an apple and stuff like that?
i can confirm that a lot of people take it not only as a literal accounting but also have strong preferences for which version of the bible is the 'true' one that has the literal accounting told correctly
A lot of people believe that "the Devil" is real, and not a wilful mistranslation of A "satan" _...Belief It Or Not._ (Also _Trevor the Explainer._ Neither are what I would describe as part of "the sceptic community" - y'know, those weird neckbeard atheists who freak out about wombns in Marvel movies and/or get all high and mighty about being Atheist™. You know what I mean. [Of course nothing wrong with atheists!])
I cant help but notice how recently its almost always black musicians who dont conform to the fashion standards, beauty standards, are queer, or all three, that are hit with these "satanic" allegations. Doja Cat, Lil Nas X, Lil Uzi Vert. really makes you think lmfao
@@AntwannnnGaga and Madonna aren't straight and Manson got famous during the height of the satanic panic and clearly capitalized on the cultural zeitgeist. That's what Marilyn manson does. Marilyn manson infamously likes attention. When he was falling off in the mid 2000s he made a diss track against my chemical romance, accusing them of ripping him off.
Indeed! Interesting take. in regard to the demand for art to be take its most digestible, palatable, banal, sanitized, most focus-tested form, I’ve seen this occurring in the nerd-o-sphere with the rise of fascistic influence in some of my favorite media. “Keep politics out of (blank)” has become a rallying cry in gaming, television, movies, comics, even music despite these things always having been political. People don’t want to be challenged anymore. They don’t want to think. They don’t want art. They want to be entertained and numbed, or they want hegemonic values reinforced. They want a commodity.
i had to go to a baptist funeral for a distant family member, and the pastor was preaching that anyone who believes in god is good, and anyone who doesn't is automatically a satanist, and therefore evil. when he said "evil" he directly looked at me, so love your neighbor ig
when i tell u that satanists and demonalaters are some of the nicest ppl i’ve ever met. you’ll find they’re the complete opposite of what the media portrays them as. not all of them are punks, or emos. they can be your friendly neighbor named Debby that wears aeropostale sweaters and ugg boots.
as someone who hangs around metalheads and has family members with alternative style & music taste it was shocking watching ppl genuinely be afraid of Doja's style. It's so foolish and immature to care about. The world is at such a dark place, facism and bigotry are on the rise, its so weird to go after someones style rather than what they usually go after (race, gender, sexuality). it actually makes me laugh watching her troll them and see them still take the bait. Thank u for talking about this and calling it what it is; a satanic panic
She literally defended an abuser, no one cares abt her trying to be all demonic for some clout to cover it all up, it’s that she’s defending a literal abuser and being an asshole lmao
28:14 So, are we just gonna ignore that she shaded her old music to produce the same sound in a new look? like, does this not look like a image rebrand with free press left and right?
Aaaaaaah, I grew up Southern Baptist in East Texas. I distinctly remember being 8, realizing I was Queer and cramming that so deep within me, because I Knew if i told a soul, I'd end up excorised, or worse. Later in life, i watched my community send a friend to conversion therapy. She came back dead eyed, and never took her long sleeves off lest she show her suicide attempt scars. I live 1500 miles away and am still closeted to my family. I genuinely think I'll be closeted to them untill i (hopefully) find a partner. I just, Thanks for talking about this Gross Shit Shanspeare, i cannot tell you how seen I felt when you discussed how deeply Satatic Panics affect indivual people within the "Evil" community, Also as always, your costuming fucks
This brings back memories of when my father’s aunt destroyed one of my favorite pieces of art that he made while he was in prison because “his life has gone off track “ after he painted that… in her defense it was a painting of several hooded figures carrying torches while entering a cave that looked like a monster’s mouth and she was a old paranoid lady(legit crazy) but it still upsets me because it was beautiful and she just entered his house when he was not there and took it…
@chrrycola2717 He made a twit longer apologising for his past racism and manipulating tons of women, i don't know if it's still up or if he deleted it but you can find it archived
Somehow this video set me free today. Im 30 still combating "good girl" and religious conditioning. The irony is that if you are black and alternative thats dead already. I find myself occasionally wanting to please others now i wonder what would happen if i lean into the inevitable outcast society has made me you may have made a monster lmao
My fav thing to watch while crocheting is Shanspeare vids and this was released at the perfect time💪💪 very interested in the vid’s topic and the tour was a super fun way to tell the story :) Love it❤️
I love this. So much of the conversation and analysis around Doja Cat has been sensationalized and lacking nuance that's often rooted in fan entitlement, the fact that she's Black, Jewish, and a Woman is often left out of the context as to why she is getting so much backlash and accusations of "Satanism." Also, this is unrelated but it really bothers me that people keep mentioning that they are "worried" about her mental health, it's condescending, it's giving Britney Spears's Father, It's giving Jane Eyre, it's giving I don't like that I can't control this woman so I'm going to accuse her of hysteria, insanity, etc.
Hmm respectfully, dating a known and admitted abuser, blocking his victims on sm and laughing at them is not the behavior of a happy, mentally healthy person. Call me condescending if you want, but I take abuse pretty fucking seriously, and I know more than a little about being up close with it. That said, a lot of the people expressing concern for her undeniably bad mental health are using it to excuse her defending abuse, which is obviously offensive. Also she's getting backlash because she's courting it. She's been on these silly edgy antics both to deflect from ^ and also to get free press for the new music (which sounds suspiciously like the old music lol)
I’m just a little confused, she said that she was done with the “cashgrabs” and was hypin her new song up…but it literally sounds like all her other songs
i’m assuming she may not like the music she makes but is most likely under contract to make pop as it sells and makes money or she doesn’t know what alternative is
She’s just a self hating, woman hating bully. I don’t really get why people are trying to draw up narratives with her and Satanism- it really just deflects from her abusive nature. She made a song mocking Sandra bland, she dismissed victims of sa, mocked victims, mocked and bullied her fans, etc. People who fight hard for toxic people like her or Ariana disturb tf out of me.
It’s cause the Christian’s who are saying she’s working with Satan or whatever don’t actually care that she’s a bully, they just don’t like that she makes rap music and wears red lmao
Yes she's got other problems that should be addressed and such But it's more so focusing on the people in her comments who are less concerned with that and more so the anti Semitic Illuminati sort of shit. And how fear of satanic stuff is popping up again. And she is a good example for that Not saying she ain't doing problematic shit She's just a good example in this case you know
you made a really important point. artists are tired of struggling to stay in the boundaries of traditional digestable art for people who dont want to be challanged. one apparent example is youtube and its safety guidelines which will get literally anyone who isnt playing right into their hands demonitized. we have to change our way of consuming art and respect it for what it is and not expect it for what we want to see in an exhibition. art is not created for exhibitional values.
You hit the nail on the head with this one. I also think that the globalization of this kind of hysteria has a lot to do with both colonialism and it’s “softer” modern version of mission work. The concept of what I am (a two-spirit person in plain english, na’wi in tarahumaran) predates colonization, but my grandma, being raised catholic, calls literally anything that isn’t the norm “diabólico”
15:26 I was listening to this while i was drawing and i heard her say "non-binary teenager stuck in Florida" and my fucking jaw went to the FLOOR Ma'am mrs demon you called me out so accurately im almost in tears
18:09 It has everything to do with religion. Not just any religion, Christianity, has been historically liked to power, to monarchs, to the capitalists, to fascists. Most millionares of the world are Christians. My very own country was not only colonized and its native population (which I'm a descendant of) was nearly wiped off, but was also robbed and exploited by Christians monarchs, priests and colonizers. Then, when the dictatorships of the XX century happened, they were supported and spread culturally and massively by Christians and the Catholic Church. I can keep going. But this immesurable damage has everything to do with it. And we'll NEVER have reparations for them because they ironically keep washing their hands off guilt by claiming religion was just "used," with evidence literally showing the contrary. PS: this is not on Shanespeare who did an awesome job with their video. Much love from Latin America. And sorry for any grammatical mistakes.
I honestly love when artists play with religious art/symbolism and all this stuff. All the meaning and culture and history behind it just feels enriching. Like what Madonna was doing with Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light or Rebel Heart, or what now Doja is doing with Scarlet. And it's also so funny to see uneducated and insecure in their beliefs people go crazy. Just shows that art is made for everyone but not everyone is made for art.
Celebs will get demon tattoos and you think its art. I promise you this stuff goes deep man. Read the works of manly p hall, law and dogma (its such a hard book to read tho, its like 1k pages and very sphinx like in its reading), the original tongues copy of the red book by carl jung (the english translations changed alot of the writing. You find a pdf of the og book online on internet archive and i swear the way to read it is to be in a state between conscious and unconscious ie. be hella sleepy 😂. Research alchemy. Sounds dumb but trust me bro there is a reason carl jung and issac newton had an obsession with it. Google the emerald tablet that was found in egypt (if my memory serves me correct) and the art of transmutation. Its not change lead to gold physically but to ascend into a ‘godlike state’. Aka as above so below. This shit goes so deep it made me religious and i used to be antithesis (hate for god). There is a long link of wisdom (gnosis) being given to people from china, egypt, mesopotamia by a green serpent, or the light bringer. What is light bringer in hebrew and you will get your answer
@@antonwesley1078 Fair enough bro beautiful thing about the world is that we are all have different opinions and perspectives. Im just telling you what i know. From an outside view i know it looks like i lost the plot 😭 but honestly i urge you to look up some of the stuff i mentioned but realistically tho you wont
My attitude has always been I don't want the safe and "good" -- I know what you're hiding there. I don't want to be attractive, cause it means I'll be constantly harassed. I don't want your traditions, cause they are hierarchical and not even applicable to the issues in our lives today. I don't want my intelligence and creativity to be used to line the pockets of the richest people on earth (that last one is a bit inevitable, but like, if I don't make millions their percentage ends up being pretty low). I want to be left alone to do my thing and enjoy my truths. And I think it has served me pretty well. I'm 47, and still very much on the outside of respectability, still bringing joy and creativity to myself and my chosen family. :D
My family has been doing the craft for quite some time and deals with different spiritual entities are a thing and work, but I am not too sure Doja Cat isn't just being Doja Cat, lol. Thanks for the analysis❤
Nobody. Else. On. RUclips. Is. Making. This. Level. Quality. Videos. End of the story. Even taking the weight of the topics out of it- the videos it self and the razor sharp dialogue and the costume changes and the sets and the backgrounds in which the “text pieces” are displayed on (idk if I’m even making sense or describing that right but hopefully someone gets it lol…. Like the formatting at 8:32 ) and it’s all just- ugh. Your attention to details and work over all is SEEN, Shan.
Thank you for another great video! I'm at that point in my life at least, unless it's just a permanent part of me, where edgy stuff is cathartic. I have my limits, of course, but while, for instance, calm music sometimes helps, I tend to need something angry or something that sounds like it understands. I wonder how things might cool down as people get used to Satanic aesthetics.... Will it be explained away? ...I don't know how I'd feel about that.
This video is one of the best on internet, omg 😮♥️ I loved everything about it, from the dialogue prologue to the fashionist, ironic, and diabolic essay.
Here we go again! 😈 One of my classmates, back in the day, was a self-declared Satanist, and made a presentation about how that is different from devil worship, because the adults were panicking about children listening to metal music and dressing in black band t-shirts. Wild times. Thank you for another excellent video.
well this wrecked my mind for good, insanely good video as usual. i think your videos have the desired effect very often, which is super impressive because of how nuanced the topics you move are. you make art that leaves an impact, thank you for putting so much effort into it
Great video Shan! I’ve never been to church before. My parents were non-religious and I was an edgy atheist before I realized that was maybe one of the most boring things one could be. The closest I got to “church” was a Hindu Puja for a class in college. In the first few days, professor made it very clear that attending the ceremony was a requirement to pass the course. He had to do this because, apparently, in a past year, one student went and left within 10 minutes saying that there was something to the effect of “overwhelming satanic energy.” That quote has stuck with me for all these years, specifically of how horrible of a thing it was to say. They came to a “service” (not a totally accurate word, but it’s the best English can afford me) for one of the most widely practiced religions IN THE WORLD and the only reaction she had was to compare it to the embodiment of pure evil. I had come out as gay less than a year and a half before taking that class. Sure I was on a private liberal arts college campus but I wasn’t dumb. I knew what the religious right said about those like me. It brought into perspective that I wasn’t the only one they would say this about. And yet, this way of thinking is disturbingly common. Not a minority, but enough to make you afraid. But, if they are just going to compare you to pure evil anyways, why not own it? You can’t convince people who think your existence is only to hurt them. You may as well own it. Take the power you’ve been given and Uno reverse it on to those that hate you. I love what DC is doing with her new music, and I speak as someone who doesn’t usually hit my Dopamine receptors. She’s pushing boundaries and owning the worst things said about her (bf aside). I think that’s really cool, and I look forward to seeing more of it.
What you brought up about the Puja is interesting. In the context of Doja, she was brought up as a Hindu during her childhood according to online sources and she even references this in her early video for So High, although some may say it was a bad representation of it. So those who view any religion except their own as satanic are going to claim she was a satanist from the start. This is hilarious to me as someone who was brought up a Hindu (but I don't consider myself a religious practitioner anymore). Some of the stories and imagery in Hinduism certainly are dark and there are even queer allegories, so it's crazy how it was and still is perceived by those not familiar with it.
Gayness and sexuality being called satanic and immoral for centuries: Them making videos to portray that. The same people who called them sinful and satanic: Do you worship the devil? Everyone sensible: Actually... you didn't get the message...
the way you wrote this was impeccable! the research was done beautifully and your input in the matter did come from very a objective place rather than fanaticism. I’ll be digging in your content to see what else you offer. very nice job
Am i the only one that thinks the devil/satan stuff is gross? I’m not talking abt metal or anything like that, I’m talking abt the straight up devil being glorified and appreciated. If you don’t believe in God, don’t mock those who do by glorifying the worst thing in existence. If you do believe in God, then you know this is an awful thing to do. The reason conservatives/Christians are scared is because it feels like this is being normalized. We can have metal, goth, punk etc without being blatantly satanic. Can someone explain to me if I’m wrong?
All beliefs are subject to criticism, including religions. Satanism is very broad. It could be an aesthetic, religion, and or critique of abrahamic religions. Either way, religion isn’t something that can’t or shouldn’t be disrespected, it’s like any other belief.
I I really never understood why so many people were mad at lil nas x for that video because he was 'worshipping satan' but the literally killed that mf I swear these extremists have to twist logic so much
as someone who is deeply intuned with pop culture discourse and the unfolding chaos within the depths of the internet, I have this to say, U HOT AF likeeee DAYUUUMMMMMM LIKE SLAY? LIKE QUEEN? MOMMY?
When I was little I was in a Costco (I thiiink?) with my mom and they played the Illuminati music thing over the intercom and I was like “wooooaaaaah!!!”
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Yes, hot. I'm very much in agreement.
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I was just going to say that red face paint looks very good on you.
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satanic panic truly is a first world problem, as a resident of a so called developing country i am much more concerned about the child mothers and the women who are killed just for being women in disgusting, alarmingly increasing numbers.
what is happening with DC is simply an artist not liking her previous albums and now she wants a new aesthetic and maybe a new sound.
I'm sorry women and children in your country are going thru that
You are right -- I think the scapegoating in developing countries is often easier, because oppressed groups have yet to have grabbed more power. So, it's enough to be a woman that upsets someone to get shunned or killed. The mechanism is largely the same, though: create an in-group and an out-group and vilify that out-group to the point that they get shunned and eventually killed.
We can look at history in the imperial core, where we had witch burnings, clearly aimed at women, and various waves of repression of women that led to less spectacular, but very real deaths. Even in something as simple as the Comstock era in the States (mirrored in different ways across the world, and I am sure still going on in many places in the imperial periphery), where simply denying the distribution of any kind of contraception, or information on the subject was labeled as pornography and thus prohibited. It led to countless deaths of women dying not only in childbirth, but from various complications from having children, and having too many of them, along with not knowing how their bodies worked (uterine prolapse, fissures leading to infection, ovarian torsion, etc etc etc).
As Shanspeare mentions, we also have seen similar patterns arise to try to destroy Jewish people, black people, etc. Who is the victim doesn't really matter for this strategy to work. Whether you call it Satanism or Witchcraft or Immorality, Christianity, or even Socialism and ANTIFA, the important part is that the powerful need to have a scapegoat, and convince people to go after these supposedly evil people so they don't have to, or so they can implement draconian measures to suppress them.
And regardless of who we are and where we are, it is our job to resist othering and dehumanizing, mass slaughters and incarcerations. We need to make sure we keep our eye on what's important, or enemy is not among us -- our enemy are the richest and most powerful people in the world. And we need to protect those who are marginalized, for whatever reason, even when we don't like that marginalized group. Fight the powerful, protect the victims, always.
I agree with you to some extent. While there are far more important issues around the world, I think it's worth discussing bc at least in México satanic panic (alongside colonialism ofc) has gone far enough to cause harm in indigenous communities, and even to animals that happen to live close by.
As someone from the global South and an overexploited country, I disagree. If you mean the way *Christians* think this is an issue, then I agree. But if you mean in the way this non-issue is used to persecute native populations (like the earlier comment mentioned), queer people, atheists, leftists and yeah, all that DOES include women, then I disagree.
i understand respectfully how this issue may have no relevance to residents of countries in the global south, however as someone from the united states who was raised in evangelical christianity, this is an important issue for us in a nation where fascism is on the rise. if the people in my country let instances of satanic panic go unchecked, it will lead to people being hurt in the way you describe above, not just women, but many other marginalized groups. i understand that the issue of global imperialism is a truly complicated one, but that being said, there are marginalized groups in the united states who either do not have the privilege of full citizenship or whose rights to full citizenship are being taken away if people look to oppress them. anyone from trans people to jewish people to indigenous people to non-citizen residents of the united states are at risk of this moralizing thinking, as it's those people who will suffer the impacts of neo-conservativeism that comes with attitudes like the satanic panic.
As someone who was raised by two rock fans and have been on a path to become punk since 12 yo i was shocked to find out that people in 2023 are still screaming "satanism" at horror-themed music videos. Punks, emos and satanists are the nicest and safest people I've ever met as a queer person. Since childhood I've felt calm and safe when i saw colored hair and spikes on people around me. Why do people think that love for dark themes and horror are a sign of mental health problems? It's a way to celebrate instead of being scared, turning horrifying into beautiful.
to quote my late nanna who grew up in the rural australian varient of the panic 'not liking a type of music cause its loud is first sign of old fart'itis but thinking that its a source of evil is some arsebrained bullshit'
Satanism is not a fashion trend, it's about putting your faith in yourself, instead of God and his overflowing and true Kindness and love. The devil perverts love and the Lord's Logo: Aka the Rainbow, to mean something else. The devil only perverts, steals, and destroys.
@@findmyat someone needs to touch grass
Agreed!
@@m00n119Your Nana sounds like one excellent lady!
I cannot help but feel like Doja being a Black AND Jewish person must be the perfect target for these kind of satanic panic weirdos. It’s like the perfect intersection for them
Shes jewish??? I had no idea
It is real hollywood satanism and if you haven't seen through it yet than only Jesus may help you. Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.
That has nothing to do with it honestly. 9 times out of 10 people don't even know her mom is Jewish. And literally what does black have to do with Satanism
I think the Jewish part is a reach. Barely anyone knows that.
@@gertrudesatekge2635satanic panic is inherently anti black. If you ever noticed anytime a black artists becomes extremely big I.e Beyoncé, Nicki Minaj, Doja Cat. It’s NEVER due to merit, it’s always due to them “selling their souls”. This was even said about Barack Obama and his family, attributing their success to deals with the devil. These moral panics panic has been around for a long time, even being used as a justification for slavery
*I have arrived, mother.*
hello, child.
@@ShanspeareI worship you mother
We need a “Hail mother” chain
Hail mother 💃🏻
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As a queer Jewish person I'm getting real nervous about the world rn. Thankyou for this art ❤
yeee I look like off brand Anne Frank and I'm scared to be in public.
good luck 💕
@@RaroHi don’t be, those who judge you are superficial and scared to get to know your inner beauty 🍂💞
@@RaroHiI get how you feel. Although I am German, I have brown hair and brown eyes. Many people mistake me for a Turkish woman (it’s okay, I don’t mind). But what I do mind is that Nazis are on the rise and they target foreigners. Stay safe
This non-Jewish bi grrl has your back ❤🧡💛💚🩵💙💜🩷✡️
THANK YOU for calling it by its name, it's hilarious honestly, how some people are trying to say this is a new fear or thing that artists are doing. Conservatives always been scared lol
Of course they are scared. :D
It's not about republican or democrat, they are both on the same side, and they aren't on the Lord's side. Put your faith in Christ
@@findmyat no no silly rabbit I said conservative! To say conservative and liberal are the same side is simply untrue. Yes it's all the government, but we, are sadly, a part of the government LOLL well or we are in theory. Anyways sorry but no 😔
@@findmyat Only one side clings to homophobia, racism and sexism openly.
@@findmyat this is not the video to comment this bye
I love how it’s the pop stars that are causing Satanic panic’s these days when back in the day. It was metal and alternative music😂
Unless you're Madonna. My grandmother thinks Madonna is the W of Babylon and Rocco Richie (her son) is the antichrist.
Jazz was definitely the devil’s music around the time it emerged more. Same with hip-hop when rock n roll was taking communities by a storm. If it wasn’t quiet, modest and comfortable it was definitely Satanic to both…
its got a lot to do with the commodification and commercialization of alternative fashion. the general aesthetics of subcultures have been coopted by normies and elites (see egirls, "big tiddy goth gf" meme, fashion trends describing celebrities wearing black as "goth," the success of wednesday, and whatever tf doja cat is doing right now) while completely leaving out the politics. since these people are so visible, the same types of conservative folks brigading against punks and metalheads 30-40 years ago direct their immediate ire toward them for their aesthetics even if their ideologies are just as vapid and conformist as ever. meanwhile, actual alternative ppl wouldnt touch those celebrities with a 10 foot pole.
so about the preschooler; he was about two years old & his mum wasn't washing him properly and kept obsessing over his butt and when she took him to the doctor and was told the kid just needed better hygiene and to have her leave it alone to recover she got really distressed and twisted up a story to justify how it wasn't her fault and decided that the best course would be to accuse one of the only men in the school of being an abuser and kept yelling and threatening until other people started getting nervous that she might be right and harassing their children until they'd "confess" something was going on
it didnt stop until a large posse had formed and started claiming that anyone not on their side in their frothing condemnations and demands was "in" on it and also assaulting babies up to and including teachers, cops, judges, lawyers, local politicians and other public figures
Okay, this is sad.
@@sabsain2399 incredibly sad. a lot of people's lives(including little childrens') were ruined
It's always anything openly horror themed that freaks people out. If the Paint the Town Red video was like Katy Perry's Californa girls music video, people wouldn't really care. The lyrics wouldn’t even bother them as much either. People still fail to stomach art with dark or startling themes. Meanwhile the devil in the bible has been described as beautiful and bright.
Yeah, they took Lucifer from the Roman pantheon of deities. Paradise Lost was the fictional poem about Lucifer being a fallen angel. Someone took that as truth. You know how those translators and ancient religious folks be.
Have you ever considered that the overwhelming majority of people worldwide, regardless of religious or non-religious background, don’t enjoy ambiguous support of Satan (which this clearly is)? When a woman is out here on livestreams saying she loves eating human shit in full-seriousness, is it so hard for you to comprehend people are gonna find her extremely creepy and weird? If this is all merely “art” to you, you are never going to draw the line 🤣 Apparently actual Satanism, in whatever form it’s manifested, will not ever exist to you or be acknowledged by you. Creepy mf
Talking about horror themed art, pls listen to Carpenter Brut if you don't already know him
@Ultraaaaa. Its not the Horror themes that’s the problem. The problem is Occult Symbols.
Try and do some research into Symbology and History before you put your opinion on something you clearly know nothing about.
@@NuMetalfan1996 Horror is a film genre that seeks to elicit fear or disgust in its audience for entertainment purposes.[2]
Horror films often explore dark subject matter and may deal with transgressive topics or themes. Broad elements include monsters, apocalyptic events, and religious or folk beliefs. I believe the horror genre also covers the occult. If someone is upset about something under the horror genre showing occult symbols then they don’t understand the genre. Horror is meant to horrify you and make you clutch your pearls. Adding occult symbols is one way to do that. Or with you, commenting like I did. Do we know whether the artist was going for horror or just plain old occult symbology as a confession of her dark ties? The great thing about art is it’s open for interpretation. You saw it this way and I saw it another way. I’ve been wanting to study history because I think I’d make an awesome history teacher and people need to go back to their history so thanks for the encouragement. Have a great day, friend. ;)
I was rooting for her and laughing at the people mad about her “changing” but her boyfriend j cyrus is a weirdo with allegations and the damage control she’s doing is corny
I think they’ll probably break up soon it’s just a matter of months
she needs to drop that man but what damage control though?
It makes sense if you see it in the context of her corny self-hating longstanding alignment with genuine fascists tho that everyone seems inexplicably happy to overlook 🙃
eW No I never realized it was THIS guy.
Doja Cat is a weird chick with a fondness for incels. I'm staying the f@ck out of dodge.
As someone who was a long time fan, Doja is dead to me. While I wouldn’t wish borderline anti-semitic behavior towards anyone I also refuse to look away from the fact she has time again worked with and is even dating an abuser, and when it’s brought to her attention she has gone as far as to mock victims. Her ass does NOT deserve a platform
Before someone else says it, she's Jewish or half ☠️
@@mikorisheridan6769 and? the same way black people can set other black people up to be hatecrimed, and queer people can be anti lgbtqia, a jew can contribute to anti-semitism, those things do not cancel each other.
@@jessiklovecine as I said, saying it before someone else does ☠️☠️ she's not a good person she's famous she's probably way way worse than we know. Just wanted to be the one to say it LOL everyone's talking abt her race like it adds to this but as fas as I know people only know she's not Black 100% when they Google it ☠️ and yeah, I know what coons are lol
tbh!! you're right!@@jessiklovecine most of our media is ripe with anti-semitic content and stereotypes in spite of (or maybe because of) so many Hollywood execs being Jewish. What you are doesn't preclude you from condemning your own people (*cough* Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa irt to portrayal of queer youth *cough*).
+1
Your videos have always been phenomenal, but seeing how theatrical and intricate you have made them over time is delightful. There is a debate on if youtube is art, but there is NO question when it comes to your channel. You are an artist.
it's really crazy how they can just recycle this satanic panic thing over and over and over again. they use it on music, on movies, on video games. every few years. how has no one been like 'wow no one has actually been sacrificed this whole time maybe we're blowing things outta proportion'. ugh
Agreed, but Im glad it occurs a couple times year now as opposed to every few years. Its like christmas for atheists 😁
While by no means an explanation for everyone who falls for the Satanic Panic, many of them believe in things based on faith, not evidence.
Actual evidence may tell them that there’s no proof X celebrity or minority group being heinous baby eaters, but their pastor tells them that there _is_ evidence, it’s just that the devil (and his POC/Jewish/queer/elite cronies) tricks everyone into thinking there is none, and why would the pastor lie to his congregation? “The devil’s greatest trick was convincing people he doesn’t exist” and all that. Also throwing in hints that not believing in a specific take will result in exclusion helps to keep people devoted to the narrative. Why risk shunning and hellfire when fitting in is easier?
Faith is fine in moderation, like Shan said, religion can be tremendously helpful for some people, but when it’s used to propagate fear and distrust in the world and is used as a weapon against other people, that’s when it’s gone off the rails.
Source: personal experience with fundamental Christian family as a queer agnostic.
it's getting old
Riiiiight... You'd think they'd study recent history a bit and notice the trend.
Do you know about Franklin? Maybe read some books on the topic.
Here are so are some good some good searches ACHRE, Nick Bryant, Finders Cult, mc marten.
Oh by the way Nick Bryant did an over an hour interview with an author covering the martin preschool case.
The way she is covering this is beyond unintellectual and inaccurate.
I don't want to do details but you can research these things in depth not like this women did.
Really go watch Conspiracy of silence and read the Franklin cover-up.
Don't just read the wiki page and say "see it's all bs."
Oh check out the FMSF check out real women real stories the ITNJ.
Hmm Occult Hollywood... I just keep watching as this chick says things that I've read about and come to completely different conclusions.
I've talked to survivors myself.
What do you think about the extreme abuse survey or the ISSTD.
God I've done a lot more research than this chick she is wrong about a lot.
Honestly it's alarming because there is a multi billion dollar child trafficking market and it's kinda offensive having talked to victims to hear it get denied so hard.
As much as I love you Shanspeare, I feel like the Satanic angle of Doja Cat’s behavior really gave a lot of ppl room to ignore the very real controversy with her partner (who was alleged to groom/abuse multiple women) and her actions towards her fan base. I kinda just wish that was included more within the video bc this conversation seems like a smokescreen against real issues ppl have with Doja in the first place
Exactly! These videos painting doja as a victim (which to an extent, SHE IS) without talking about her current and VERY harmful controversies are strange
Everyone has been doing this too, I don’t understand how they all literally ignore J Cyrus 💀
I agree, the bad faith criticisms of Doja really obscure the valid criticisms.
+1
YES gd exactly, Doja is using silly little antics to deflect from the very real and serious problem of abuse, and I am stunned at how well it's worked. There were so many commentators (shanspeare included) when i saw their videos I thought "HERE'S someone with critical thinking skills who will give this the attention it deserves" and I have been disappointed EVERY time. It's been fucking depressing. Like...society truly _hates_ victims and people want to think about them as little as possible
Thank you for saying this bc I’ve been noticing the trend of ppl calling everything “satanic” and it’s like…… girls didn’t we do this 30 years ago and it ended HORRIBLY?!
A lot of untrustworthy "authority" figures will lean into this panic and try to market themselves as "protectors" and "defenders of the righteous" but its literally just a grift and a minimal effort grift at that.
absolutely adored the ending bit, you said everything that's been pissing me off about existence in general lately. everything is cringe and nothing is genuine, everything must be perfected and nothing can be "wrong", it's just a shitty, constrictive way of living.
As a pagan satanic panic is something I’ve really struggled with my whole life pretty much, I grew up in a Christian based family and while they weren’t heavily religious they still are deeply effected by the satanic panic and are genuinely afraid of me and my practice for no reason, I’m a green witch who grows plants, I don’t sacrifice children to the devil. Amazing work and thank you so much for covering this topic
@andreajones4884. I think you need to look into Witchcraft and Paganism and where it all started from.
I pray that you find the truth into what Witchcraft and Paganism actually are and where to all comes from.
As always, a phenomenal presentation of information ❤
Personally as a Queer person that grew up in the Catholic Church and experienced the impact of shame on my identity enforced by priests in confession booths, mocking the church has allowed me to see their flaws after they tried to pin down mine. I was a kid and they were corrupt idiots.
The way I was screaming _YES_ when I saw this title!!! ✋🏽
SAME!!! I've been waiting for someone to talk about this critically
I was a Goth kid in the 90's who also happened to be Pagan (something only my family and very close friends new until my 20's because of the way things were in the 90's). I listened to Marilyn Manson and I was very unapologetic....in my shitty small Ohio town, no less, where there are churches (mostly Baptist) on just about every corner and the church held such power that we were not even allowed to have Halloween parties in school because the churches said so. And it wasn't fun, to put it mildly. lol The good news is since the 90's, the Church in general has lost a lot of people. I know the majority of people in America still call themselves Christian but when you break that number down, most of those people are not "practicing Christians" who go to church regularly or who really care about it. I feel like we are in a much better place to push back against this new wave of the Satanic Panic than we were in the 90's. More people are openly non-conforming in one way or another today. Maybe I am just an optimist but do feel like the majority of people forty and younger think this is nonsense. I hope.....
This video was brilliant as always.
I agree with you, as a fellow goth kid from the nineties, that we are in a better place to resist. It no longer takes moving to the big city to find our community, to band together and organize. And most of my friends my age and younger (surely a self-selecting group, however) have become *more* radical with age, and are really engaging in the politics and not just the aesthetics of resistance.
Something to be mindful of: we are seeing a lot of what leftists call "recuperation": this is a commodification of the resistance (not limited just to subcultures) and a resale of it to us. So we see things like major brands and big box stores now carry goth clothing, and we see a lot less DIY clothing than we saw in the nineties (which was already less so here than in Europe, where I grew up, where you had almost no stores that carried goth stuff, so you had to DIY). This incorporates more and more of our aesthetic and consumption into the mainstream, defusing the most radical elements, and lulling us into a false sense of safety. So while I believe it is appropriate to be hopeful, this doesn't mean that we can just stop the fight, cause we ain't close to winning yet.
Another thing to think about that is related to the above is that individual consumption and conversion to ideas, or even participating in spirituality and feeling better about ourselves is NOT activism, and does not in and of itself produce change. Wearing a Che Guevara tee doesn't make you a leftist, you have to actually work to make changes, like participating in solidarity efforts, mutual aid, local politics, etc...
@@glenn_desert_witch I've been going to protests since the Bush presidency (my first was a Soldiers Against the War protest where there were maybe at most 20 people, mostly Vietnam vets, because none of the papers in Central Ohio, including the Columbus Dispatch, would allow the people organizing it to advertise it) and we were all called "traitors" and told that we were unAmerican because, as I am sure you remember, speaking out against Bush and the war was treated by a huge portion of our society as an act against America (because they made up the rule that "you can't speak out against the president during the war" which was, of course, thrown out the window when Obama took office) and I have been physically threatened by self-described "patriots" for wearing a John Lennon tee shirt with the "offensive" saying 'Give Peace a Chance' printed across it. As soon as 9/11 happened, the town that hated me all of my life for not conforming anything about myself to what they deemed appropriate had a much bigger reason to hate me because I saw the war as bullshit, started for the express purpose of making the rich richer, just like Vietnam, and I had zero patience for Anti-Muslim attitudes either. That put a target on my back very quickly....Gee, I am happy that I had the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so wrong....lol I do fear that we are headed back in that direction with the Trump cult but the good news is, the people like that are now a minority (about 20 to 30 percent of the country).
I have always been very politically far left and I have stayed aware and active. From marriage equality to getting Plan B on store shelves to a decades long fight for reproductive rights to attempting to stand up against racist pigs who get away with killing in cold blood, I studied the biographies and listened to the interviews of activists from my grandparents generation on back and I always tried to see where they went wrong and what they got right.
Back in the day I found my fellow millennials to be frustrating as hell because they seemed convinced abortion rights, alongside human rights in general, could never be taken from us so to see that so many have finally opened their eyes since Donald Trump became president makes me happy.... although I wish it wouldn't have taken that since there was plenty of evidence to say that everything going on right now, Trump as president or someone like him as president included, was coming since Reagan's presidency. But it fills me with hope to see how committed Gen Z is to turning this shit show around. The first time I really felt like the left already has the future on lock down was when the Parkland kids staged their walk out and thousands participated even when the schools were threatening to expell them if they walked out. The speeches from the kids at Parkland that day brought me to tears, not only because of how dark the present is but also because it felt for a moment like a progressive future was inevitable. Gen Z has all of the political awareness that my generation did not have at their age and many of them are taking to the streets or the statehouses, they are voting in large numbers, they are calling senators and representatives to tell them just how they feel about the fuckery. I love to see it. If both generations came together, I do believe we could affect change.... before Trump or the many people now in our government who are just like him, actually succeeds in creating a fascist dictatorship which this current Supreme Court would probably be cool with, and the corporate Dems would do what they always do....sit back, allow it to happen, and use it to get more donations.
As far as the Goth aesthetic being easily accessible, it is what it is. I am personally a thrift store Trad Goth myself and I have been since the 90's because I was poor and fat so Hot Topic was of no use to me. Lmao The fight over differentiating between those who just like the look and the actual real Goths has been going on since the 90's. And yet there are still people my age who have called themselves Goth for decades who do not know that Goth is a subculture built around Goth music. So I feel the same way I felt back then. There are far bigger things to focus on. Just as there were people who dressed like Punks and called themselves punk who didn't care about the music, so it is with Goth, and that certainly won't be changing now that the look is easier to achieve than ever before. The only time I have an issue is when it's a prep who bullied kids for being Goth one year and popped up dressed like a Goth Lite or a Diet Goth the next (*cough* The very first Emo kids.....). Aside from that, I feel like it just is what it is.
I hope you have a good rest of your weekend. 😁
Absolutely right. The true division is only beginning. The world is changing, and the practicing Christians will be divided from the rest of the world. Put your faith in the Lord. Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.
@@lestatsluv317Damn! Awesome! I... I can't find better words. So well put, so well thought out... Cheers! \m/
@@mookinbabysealfurmittens Thank you! 😊
Something about the devil having a pastel pink phone is deeply funny to me
i just broke up with my boyfriend over conspiracies like this. i'm a socialist feminist, it was driving me frickin nuts. he was lovely otherwise, but i can't date someone like that.
goddamn tho, i made the right choice. illuminati my ass.
@nicholastime1513😂
hell yeah good for you!! a friend of mine is dating a dude who’s also into conspiracy theories and it’s so annoying lmao. really makes you question that person’s critical thinking skills
Lord Jesus Christ, son of God, Have mercy on me, a sinner.
@@findmyatgod isn’t real
“Thoughts and prayers…but no salvation.”
Just brilliant and spot on.
@kekoakaawa8879. What do you mean?.
The Bible teaches that anyone who admits to their sins, asks for forgiveness, and believes that Jesus died and sacrificed himself for everyone will have salvation and will be saved.
The truth is Jesus is the one who loves us all and wants us to repent from our sins because every single one of us are sinners.
That’s what the Bible teaches, it teaches forgiveness, but you have to ask for forgiveness.
the way they randomly twirled the necklace in their hands felt hypnotizing lmao... loved the video and the costumes!
wholeheartedly agree, I would let then hypnotize me while filling me with existential dread any time of day
Your intros just get better and better
❤️❤️❤️
“She’s not sexy anymore! She couldn’t possibly want to seem unattractive to me so she’s obviously worshipping Satan- and uhhhhh THIS IS A HUMILIATION RITUAL”
She's definitely doing this Scarlet stuff to be edgy and shock people after they spent ages calling her a satanist for looking slightly weird, which good for her, but it's mad disingenuous to act like your discography was just a cashgrab then have the next single you drop sound like a Planet Her reject. I would've rooted for her until she was defending her pedo bf and made the whole thing into how she was actually the victim of parasocial relationships. PTTR wasn't good enough for those hardcore visuals tbh.
I mean she drew and conceptually crafted the project. So the theme does fit and make sense as it’s the brith of Scarlett to the public essentially.
No really because she hyped this album to be a harsher and edgier sound when in all honesty all the ep’s she’s dropped so far have an interesting/catchy beat but no real edge to it to justify or support the some of the visuals (I guess she might be going to juxtaposition idk). I guess the beat from Demons works with the visuals but all I hear from the lyrics is a watered down Rico nasty. the weird Uber religious Christian response is really dumb and unfounded especially if you’re actually grounded in your faith and not just posturing
Exactly! If I remember correctly, people started calling her satanic for shaving her head.
YEP@@kasmith54
@@kasmith54 I don't wanna believe it but at the same time I believe it 😭
you look SO GOOD omg, definitely would make a pact 10/10
best compliment
i don't think people understand that the devil is a metaphor for evilness, not a real thing. do people really believe the bible is literal?
like they really believe a real snake convinced a woman to eat an apple and stuff like that?
Yes, more people than you would think take the Bible very literally. Arguably, it might be most of them
i can confirm that a lot of people take it not only as a literal accounting but also have strong preferences for which version of the bible is the 'true' one that has the literal accounting told correctly
The Devil is Alive, and he wants all the souls he can devour, he wants to pervert, kill, steal, and destroy all beauty and abolish all love.
@@findmyat LMFAOOOOOOO
A lot of people believe that "the Devil" is real, and not a wilful mistranslation of A "satan" _...Belief It Or Not._ (Also _Trevor the Explainer._ Neither are what I would describe as part of "the sceptic community" - y'know, those weird neckbeard atheists who freak out about wombns in Marvel movies and/or get all high and mighty about being Atheist™. You know what I mean. [Of course nothing wrong with atheists!])
The Right Wing love for 1984 irks me. They don't even realize they're falling prey to the same kind of propaganda in the book.
I cant help but notice how recently its almost always black musicians who dont conform to the fashion standards, beauty standards, are queer, or all three, that are hit with these "satanic" allegations. Doja Cat, Lil Nas X, Lil Uzi Vert. really makes you think lmfao
Marilyn Manson, Gaga, Madonna
@@AntwannnnGaga and Madonna aren't straight and Manson got famous during the height of the satanic panic and clearly capitalized on the cultural zeitgeist. That's what Marilyn manson does. Marilyn manson infamously likes attention. When he was falling off in the mid 2000s he made a diss track against my chemical romance, accusing them of ripping him off.
@@Antwannnnalmost always****🤗
and playboi carti
@lcvetheory ian wanna talk abt carti in the comment cus he piss me off. maybe ill forgive him if he drops
Oh my god I've been looking for a good video on all the stuff folks have been saying about Doja for ages but by Shanspeare?? It's my lucky dayyy
Ikkk she explains stuff so nice
Indeed! Interesting take. in regard to the demand for art to be take its most digestible, palatable, banal, sanitized, most focus-tested form, I’ve seen this occurring in the nerd-o-sphere with the rise of fascistic influence in some of my favorite media. “Keep politics out of (blank)” has become a rallying cry in gaming, television, movies, comics, even music despite these things always having been political. People don’t want to be challenged anymore. They don’t want to think. They don’t want art. They want to be entertained and numbed, or they want hegemonic values reinforced. They want a commodity.
i had to go to a baptist funeral for a distant family member, and the pastor was preaching that anyone who believes in god is good, and anyone who doesn't is automatically a satanist, and therefore evil. when he said "evil" he directly looked at me, so love your neighbor ig
I guess serial killers that believe in God are automatically good ?? Someone needs to fire that priest smh
People really gotta get over her new aesthetic when now she’s wearing shirts of neo nazi shooters 😨
when i tell u that satanists and demonalaters are some of the nicest ppl i’ve ever met. you’ll find they’re the complete opposite of what the media portrays them as. not all of them are punks, or emos. they can be your friendly neighbor named Debby that wears aeropostale sweaters and ugg boots.
Religious people like to create boogeyman in places it doesn't exist, instead of just investigating the boogeyman that are their religious leaders.
as someone who hangs around metalheads and has family members with alternative style & music taste it was shocking watching ppl genuinely be afraid of Doja's style. It's so foolish and immature to care about. The world is at such a dark place, facism and bigotry are on the rise, its so weird to go after someones style rather than what they usually go after (race, gender, sexuality). it actually makes me laugh watching her troll them and see them still take the bait. Thank u for talking about this and calling it what it is; a satanic panic
I WAS JUST BINGE-WATCHING UR CHANNEL OMG
omg what are we 😳
I've been hearing some stuff about doja. It's time I watch a video about it. Thank you.
great video but i still find Doja cringe i’m sorry 😭
Omg SHANSPEARE LIKED MY COMMENT YAYAYA
its ok that doja is cringe...cringe is necessary
Crigne mean orbage and then. Its yuym
cringe is freedom
Hella cringe never found her appeal other than giving us forever 21 inspired lyrics and looks
Thank you for curing me of my internalised biphobia while also being entertaining and educational.
She literally defended an abuser, no one cares abt her trying to be all demonic for some clout to cover it all up, it’s that she’s defending a literal abuser and being an asshole lmao
28:14 So, are we just gonna ignore that she shaded her old music to produce the same sound in a new look? like, does this not look like a image rebrand with free press left and right?
Aaaaaaah,
I grew up Southern Baptist in East Texas.
I distinctly remember being 8, realizing I was Queer and cramming that so deep within me, because I Knew if i told a soul, I'd end up excorised, or worse.
Later in life, i watched my community send a friend to conversion therapy. She came back dead eyed, and never took her long sleeves off lest she show her suicide attempt scars.
I live 1500 miles away and am still closeted to my family. I genuinely think I'll be closeted to them untill i (hopefully) find a partner.
I just,
Thanks for talking about this Gross Shit Shanspeare, i cannot tell you how seen I felt when you discussed how deeply Satatic Panics affect indivual people within the "Evil" community,
Also as always, your costuming fucks
I suggest to move away from the state entirely, maybe to a more open minded state.
@@saragreenfire4515 I did? I said so in my comment? The US may be big but Texas isnt 1500 miles on its own XD
@@grimmgoosegoose216 Oops, I diden't think of it. I should have paid more attention to that part lol
This brings back memories of when my father’s aunt destroyed one of my favorite pieces of art that he made while he was in prison because “his life has gone off track “ after he painted that… in her defense it was a painting of several hooded figures carrying torches while entering a cave that looked like a monster’s mouth and she was a old paranoid lady(legit crazy) but it still upsets me because it was beautiful and she just entered his house when he was not there and took it…
just wanted to comment on the part about doja's boyfriend where you said 'if the allegations are true', he literally admitted to it in a long post
@chrrycola2717 no i read the post. just google it for yourself 'j cyrus admitting to allegations' it takes as much energy as posting this comment
@chrrycola2717 He made a twit longer apologising for his past racism and manipulating tons of women, i don't know if it's still up or if he deleted it but you can find it archived
When did he say that?
@@wetsockz3001 2020
@chrrycola2717 I’m pretty sure it comes up when you look it up. Just like the awful things Doja has done.
you’re giving Contrapoints and I love it
i love how theatrical ur videos are, it makes everything so engaging and interesting to watch
Somehow this video set me free today. Im 30 still combating "good girl" and religious conditioning. The irony is that if you are black and alternative thats dead already. I find myself occasionally wanting to please others now i wonder what would happen if i lean into the inevitable outcast society has made me you may have made a monster lmao
My fav thing to watch while crocheting is Shanspeare vids and this was released at the perfect time💪💪 very interested in the vid’s topic and the tour was a super fun way to tell the story :) Love it❤️
im crocheting too… what are u making?
Seriously, why can't people just ignore the things they dislike? It makes yours and everyone else's lives so much easier.
I love this. So much of the conversation and analysis around Doja Cat has been sensationalized and lacking nuance that's often rooted in fan entitlement, the fact that she's Black, Jewish, and a Woman is often left out of the context as to why she is getting so much backlash and accusations of "Satanism." Also, this is unrelated but it really bothers me that people keep mentioning that they are "worried" about her mental health, it's condescending, it's giving Britney Spears's Father, It's giving Jane Eyre, it's giving I don't like that I can't control this woman so I'm going to accuse her of hysteria, insanity, etc.
Hmm respectfully, dating a known and admitted abuser, blocking his victims on sm and laughing at them is not the behavior of a happy, mentally healthy person. Call me condescending if you want, but I take abuse pretty fucking seriously, and I know more than a little about being up close with it.
That said, a lot of the people expressing concern for her undeniably bad mental health are using it to excuse her defending abuse, which is obviously offensive.
Also she's getting backlash because she's courting it. She's been on these silly edgy antics both to deflect from ^ and also to get free press for the new music (which sounds suspiciously like the old music lol)
brooo, shanspeare raising the bar for youtubers AGAIN. i love you videos so much, the care and time you put into them really shows.
I’m just a little confused, she said that she was done with the “cashgrabs” and was hypin her new song up…but it literally sounds like all her other songs
deadass
i’m assuming she may not like the music she makes but is most likely under contract to make pop as it sells and makes money or she doesn’t know what alternative is
@@yunelune8272she started out on soundcloud she absolutely knows how alt music sounds like
Yeah, I mean I like Paint the Town Red and Attention but it really doesn't sound that different 😅
“can i get a bad name for you?” shan u are so funny and creative omfg i love the makeup and great script love u!
She’s just a self hating, woman hating bully. I don’t really get why people are trying to draw up narratives with her and Satanism- it really just deflects from her abusive nature.
She made a song mocking Sandra bland, she dismissed victims of sa, mocked victims, mocked and bullied her fans, etc.
People who fight hard for toxic people like her or Ariana disturb tf out of me.
It’s cause the Christian’s who are saying she’s working with Satan or whatever don’t actually care that she’s a bully, they just don’t like that she makes rap music and wears red lmao
Yes she's got other problems that should be addressed and such
But it's more so focusing on the people in her comments who are less concerned with that and more so the anti Semitic Illuminati sort of shit. And how fear of satanic stuff is popping up again. And she is a good example for that
Not saying she ain't doing problematic shit
She's just a good example in this case you know
She mocked Sandra Bland??
you made a really important point. artists are tired of struggling to stay in the boundaries of traditional digestable art for people who dont want to be challanged. one apparent example is youtube and its safety guidelines which will get literally anyone who isnt playing right into their hands demonitized. we have to change our way of consuming art and respect it for what it is and not expect it for what we want to see in an exhibition. art is not created for exhibitional values.
The CREATIVENESS she had when making this video you have to appreciate how much time it takes with editing and filming
You hit the nail on the head with this one. I also think that the globalization of this kind of hysteria has a lot to do with both colonialism and it’s “softer” modern version of mission work. The concept of what I am (a two-spirit person in plain english, na’wi in tarahumaran) predates colonization, but my grandma, being raised catholic, calls literally anything that isn’t the norm “diabólico”
15:26
I was listening to this while i was drawing and i heard her say "non-binary teenager stuck in Florida" and my fucking jaw went to the FLOOR
Ma'am mrs demon you called me out so accurately im almost in tears
Hey stay safe out there dude, Florida sounds like it's getting kinda crazy 💜🤘🏻
This was amazing! You're intellect is out of this world!
18:09 It has everything to do with religion. Not just any religion, Christianity, has been historically liked to power, to monarchs, to the capitalists, to fascists. Most millionares of the world are Christians. My very own country was not only colonized and its native population (which I'm a descendant of) was nearly wiped off, but was also robbed and exploited by Christians monarchs, priests and colonizers. Then, when the dictatorships of the XX century happened, they were supported and spread culturally and massively by Christians and the Catholic Church. I can keep going. But this immesurable damage has everything to do with it. And we'll NEVER have reparations for them because they ironically keep washing their hands off guilt by claiming religion was just "used," with evidence literally showing the contrary. PS: this is not on Shanespeare who did an awesome job with their video. Much love from Latin America. And sorry for any grammatical mistakes.
I honestly love when artists play with religious art/symbolism and all this stuff. All the meaning and culture and history behind it just feels enriching. Like what Madonna was doing with Bedtime Stories, Ray of Light or Rebel Heart, or what now Doja is doing with Scarlet. And it's also so funny to see uneducated and insecure in their beliefs people go crazy. Just shows that art is made for everyone but not everyone is made for art.
Celebs will get demon tattoos and you think its art. I promise you this stuff goes deep man. Read the works of manly p hall, law and dogma (its such a hard book to read tho, its like 1k pages and very sphinx like in its reading), the original tongues copy of the red book by carl jung (the english translations changed alot of the writing. You find a pdf of the og book online on internet archive and i swear the way to read it is to be in a state between conscious and unconscious ie. be hella sleepy 😂. Research alchemy. Sounds dumb but trust me bro there is a reason carl jung and issac newton had an obsession with it. Google the emerald tablet that was found in egypt (if my memory serves me correct) and the art of transmutation. Its not change lead to gold physically but to ascend into a ‘godlike state’. Aka as above so below. This shit goes so deep it made me religious and i used to be antithesis (hate for god). There is a long link of wisdom (gnosis) being given to people from china, egypt, mesopotamia by a green serpent, or the light bringer. What is light bringer in hebrew and you will get your answer
@@GingerBeerRoninYoure delusional
@@GingerBeerRoninYoure off the deep end bro
@@antonwesley1078 Fair enough bro beautiful thing about the world is that we are all have different opinions and perspectives. Im just telling you what i know. From an outside view i know it looks like i lost the plot 😭 but honestly i urge you to look up some of the stuff i mentioned but realistically tho you wont
@@GingerBeerRonin whats the most damning thing you think I should look up? I cant see your last comment for some reason
My attitude has always been I don't want the safe and "good" -- I know what you're hiding there. I don't want to be attractive, cause it means I'll be constantly harassed. I don't want your traditions, cause they are hierarchical and not even applicable to the issues in our lives today. I don't want my intelligence and creativity to be used to line the pockets of the richest people on earth (that last one is a bit inevitable, but like, if I don't make millions their percentage ends up being pretty low). I want to be left alone to do my thing and enjoy my truths.
And I think it has served me pretty well. I'm 47, and still very much on the outside of respectability, still bringing joy and creativity to myself and my chosen family. :D
“Everything is perfect and nothing is beautiful” is genuinely such a perfect and chilling line
My family has been doing the craft for quite some time and deals with different spiritual entities are a thing and work, but I am not too sure Doja Cat isn't just being Doja Cat, lol. Thanks for the analysis❤
why does this have the best visuals i’ve ever seen in a video essay
Love the way you went about this one! Your channel is one of my absolute favorites❤
Nobody. Else. On. RUclips. Is. Making. This. Level. Quality. Videos. End of the story. Even taking the weight of the topics out of it- the videos it self and the razor sharp dialogue and the costume changes and the sets and the backgrounds in which the “text pieces” are displayed on (idk if I’m even making sense or describing that right but hopefully someone gets it lol…. Like the formatting at 8:32 ) and it’s all just- ugh. Your attention to details and work over all is SEEN, Shan.
Thank you for another great video!
I'm at that point in my life at least, unless it's just a permanent part of me, where edgy stuff is cathartic. I have my limits, of course, but while, for instance, calm music sometimes helps, I tend to need something angry or something that sounds like it understands.
I wonder how things might cool down as people get used to Satanic aesthetics.... Will it be explained away? ...I don't know how I'd feel about that.
This video is one of the best on internet, omg 😮♥️ I loved everything about it, from the dialogue prologue to the fashionist, ironic, and diabolic essay.
Demons are more often metaphors or just regular meany people than supernatural beings
The last chunk of this video where you talk about art is GOLDEN. Thank you so much for this!
sadly the satanic panic never truly left us
Yup. I grew up in Texas and if you knew a kid who was allowed to read Harry Potter or wasn't allowed to play Pokémon or Yugioh...
Here we go again! 😈 One of my classmates, back in the day, was a self-declared Satanist, and made a presentation about how that is different from devil worship, because the adults were panicking about children listening to metal music and dressing in black band t-shirts. Wild times. Thank you for another excellent video.
well this wrecked my mind for good, insanely good video as usual. i think your videos have the desired effect very often, which is super impressive because of how nuanced the topics you move are. you make art that leaves an impact, thank you for putting so much effort into it
The production values in your essays… the costume design… the writing… the commentary… 10/10!!
Ooh I've been waiting for videos to come out about this topic!! Also, your makeup is so well done 👏
Great video Shan!
I’ve never been to church before. My parents were non-religious and I was an edgy atheist before I realized that was maybe one of the most boring things one could be. The closest I got to “church” was a Hindu Puja for a class in college. In the first few days, professor made it very clear that attending the ceremony was a requirement to pass the course. He had to do this because, apparently, in a past year, one student went and left within 10 minutes saying that there was something to the effect of “overwhelming satanic energy.” That quote has stuck with me for all these years, specifically of how horrible of a thing it was to say. They came to a “service” (not a totally accurate word, but it’s the best English can afford me) for one of the most widely practiced religions IN THE WORLD and the only reaction she had was to compare it to the embodiment of pure evil.
I had come out as gay less than a year and a half before taking that class. Sure I was on a private liberal arts college campus but I wasn’t dumb. I knew what the religious right said about those like me. It brought into perspective that I wasn’t the only one they would say this about. And yet, this way of thinking is disturbingly common. Not a minority, but enough to make you afraid. But, if they are just going to compare you to pure evil anyways, why not own it? You can’t convince people who think your existence is only to hurt them. You may as well own it. Take the power you’ve been given and Uno reverse it on to those that hate you.
I love what DC is doing with her new music, and I speak as someone who doesn’t usually hit my Dopamine receptors. She’s pushing boundaries and owning the worst things said about her (bf aside). I think that’s really cool, and I look forward to seeing more of it.
What you brought up about the Puja is interesting. In the context of Doja, she was brought up as a Hindu during her childhood according to online sources and she even references this in her early video for So High, although some may say it was a bad representation of it. So those who view any religion except their own as satanic are going to claim she was a satanist from the start. This is hilarious to me as someone who was brought up a Hindu (but I don't consider myself a religious practitioner anymore). Some of the stories and imagery in Hinduism certainly are dark and there are even queer allegories, so it's crazy how it was and still is perceived by those not familiar with it.
Gayness and sexuality being called satanic and immoral for centuries: Them making videos to portray that.
The same people who called them sinful and satanic: Do you worship the devil?
Everyone sensible: Actually... you didn't get the message...
the way you wrote this was impeccable! the research was done beautifully and your input in the matter did come from very a objective place rather than fanaticism. I’ll be digging in your content to see what else you offer. very nice job
Shan: Sorry we don't take
Me: pls don't say Klarna pls or Affirm pls don't say Klarna
Shan: Souls
Me: Thank fuck
What a terrifying way to end the video (before the ad of course)
Spectacular work 👹
Recent Shanspere is just *chefs kiss*
Ah yes we eatin good
“Gimme a second, I’m going to call my evil secretary real quick” got me
Your speech on art at the end was honestly really motivating ❤️
Am i the only one that thinks the devil/satan stuff is gross? I’m not talking abt metal or anything like that, I’m talking abt the straight up devil being glorified and appreciated. If you don’t believe in God, don’t mock those who do by glorifying the worst thing in existence. If you do believe in God, then you know this is an awful thing to do. The reason conservatives/Christians are scared is because it feels like this is being normalized. We can have metal, goth, punk etc without being blatantly satanic. Can someone explain to me if I’m wrong?
devil aint real tho
All beliefs are subject to criticism, including religions. Satanism is very broad. It could be an aesthetic, religion, and or critique of abrahamic religions. Either way, religion isn’t something that can’t or shouldn’t be disrespected, it’s like any other belief.
I I really never understood why so many people were mad at lil nas x for that video because he was 'worshipping satan' but the literally killed that mf
I swear these extremists have to twist logic so much
Ig they didn't make it all the way through that video 😂
Ngl, if the devil looked and acted like you i'd join in the fun 😂😂😂
girl..
You ate, but Doja is still problematic
The og satanic panic reminds me of the witch trials Fr
WOW! We have really made it to a time where evil is looked at as good
Trump’s mugshot does look very demonic…
He has a Kubrick stare
@@maryeckel9682DONT DO MY MAN (any Kubrick actor) LIKE THAT
Love what you did with Ron DeSantis there. I call him the Hitler of the Everglades.
as someone who is deeply intuned with pop culture discourse and the unfolding chaos within the depths of the internet, I have this to say,
U HOT AF
likeeee DAYUUUMMMMMM
LIKE SLAY?
LIKE QUEEN?
MOMMY?
like im gayyyyyyy
When I was little I was in a Costco (I thiiink?) with my mom and they played the Illuminati music thing over the intercom and I was like “wooooaaaaah!!!”