The Mystery of Yamoshi and the Super Saiyan God
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- Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025
- Dragon Ball Mysteries tackles YAMOSHI as we discuss the Super Saiyan God Legend in detail, Toriyama's strange writing in the STORY of Yamoshi, Beerus prophetic dream explained, and much more. EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know about Yamoshi. DeadDark: deaddarkshop.b...
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Feels like Dragon Ball Fan Manga Creators put more effort into Yamoshi’s Story than Toriyama did lol
Yamoshi and Zamala are not counted.
Oh shiet it's BlackScape im a huge fan of this guy lol
They're far more consistent then he is to be frank.
Fans always care about the subject of their fandom a thousand times more than the actual creator of said subject.
They did
Let's be honest. Toriyama might have already forgotten this character he just created lol
He didn't just create him he just created him being a super sayian God instead of being the 1st super sayian
@@Hisagi197 aka created him bro until recently we didtn kkowbhis mame that's what we are saying.
@AXEL The next Stan Lee true Ifeel like he pulled that name out of his ass lmao
Toriyama and Toyotaro finally went into more detail about the Grand Supreme Kai/Great Lord of Lords/Daikaioh after more than 20 years so we'll see how long it takes for Yamoshi xD
Lol wouldn't be surprised if he did
Geekdom -“Where is this guy? Who is this guy?”
Drax - “I’ll do you one better; WHY is this guy!?”
Hilarious 😂
Omg🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
😂 yes best comment
😂😂😂😂😂😂 great
Mikeyboy86 Lol
Ah yes, Yamoshi, the legendary fusion between Yamcha and Master Roshi.
😂😂😂😂😂 nice
Well done lol
Nice 😂😂😂
God tier comment.
This needs 69 likes
Question: Who is Yamoshi and what is his origin?
Short Answer: Akira Toriyama
Long Answer: Akira Toriyama good marketing skills for DB and or making up stuff on the spot.
pretty much
Nailed it.
Geekdom himself said Toriyama is a discovery writer!
That's definitely correct.
Toriyama will probably forget all about Yamoshi in a couple of years lol
@@NowKissMyChucks not really man. He'll forget the next day.
Dragon ball needs to have a movie called “the mystery of yamoshi”. Imagine how dope that could possibly be
That would be soooo cool
@@yogre lmfaooooooo yeah I hope it’s a movie about this or making cooler canon again
Bro I’m dizzy
I think a arc where Yamoshi comes back and is now disgusted by how noble the current sayians are like broly vegeta goku kabba gohan etc etc
Legend of yamoshi 2023
my theory is he did go SSG. toriyama specifically said he rebelled with 5 other people (like god ritual). My guess he went super Saiyan but was outnumbered and low of energy so his friends gave him theirs and *accidentally* became SSG. but since it ran out eventually that is when he was killed. then his spirit told the namekians of the ritual since he learned it. also could be why SSG wasn't known among saiyans and even though in minus frieza knew it seems he thought it was untrue unlike SSJ. SSG was known by just a few (because it only appeared for a short time) but as the years went by it got lost while SSJ remained a popular legend.
This makes way more sense cl
Do you guys know how strong ssg really is
This is the backstory I'm using for yamoshi now
In DBS Broly Frieza legit acknowledges SsjG lol
Still odd that any sort of God Ki form couldn't have packed up all the other Saiyans before tapping out, tbh.
Why not have the Saiyans bow to him, as their new God, and start a Royal Family of his own, first with the bloodlines of the few SSJ's at the time, then with only the most powerful of saiyans later down through the centuries?
Screen rant the next day: "Goku is a ReIncArNatIon of Yamoshi"
Straight up screen rant has some of the most laziest, plagiaristic and overall bad writers that work for them.
@@cocoaball77 agreed haha
CBR has done worse lmao
Why you say it like that
I honestly want an entire arc that's completely focused on Yamoshi and the history of the Saiyans.
They need to just make a tv special or something at least
Anything about the history and culture of saiyans would make me happy!
Yes. Call it “the first super sayian” and give us a complete history based on what toriyama (idk how to spell it) had in mind when writing the manga
We really need a dragonball prequel
any dragon ball product without goku will flop toei would never make that mistake
Goal all they’d have to do is have Goku go ask a higher deity or something about the Saiyan heritage. Then boom, flashes back to hundreds of years ago and the story plays out from there
@@Scarlight_JB true 👍👍👍
@@goal8612 bardock movie was legit super hit
@@devilfromhell8546 yeah, because Bardock looks like Goku lol
When super returns they should let Chichi keep her hair down.
Ps they should make a movie on Yamoshi
Great vid
I think they may not be going too far into detail to allow themselves to have a prequel written in the future. I really want them to touch more on universe 6 saiyans. Maybe after the Moro arc
Edited: another thing is I wonder if a planets heaven/hell vanishes whenever the planet itself disappears.
The Saiyan's should have won and kill Frieza and protect their own planet.
What if the Saiyan's survived and won against Frieza and his men and Gine which is bardock's wife and also Fasha become princesses like Saiyan Disney princess type in a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse?
Do you guy's to see Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses an a big fat gypsy princess puffy wedding dresses for the grand ball and for the wedding because they are Saiyan princesses like a Disney Princesse?
How do you guy's agree with that idea that Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses?
Jaime Nieves why are you just spamming the same thing over and over on different it’s annoying my dude
@@MickeyMouse-lx3nw I'm not spamming nobody okay.
And besides it's a great idea for the Saiyan race to live happily ever after on Planet Vegeta and Fasha and Gine dressing up as princesses
Jaime Nieves well idk about the princess thing but saiyans living peacefully is a good idea
The thing missing in yamoshi's story is yamoshi's story.
@@sirlionheart4614 they should do a horror Manga about him
Never clicked a video so fast... Finally some YAMOSHI CONTENT
I've been waiting for this one
Me to bro
He is the first Saiyan that reached day 100 of NoFap. Lol all jokes aside it’s one of the powerful things a man can do. That’s one of the avenues to bettering yourself
Legend.
That's just a legend! LOL
Little does everyone know that the ssj god ritual actually included 5 saiyans jacking each other off to a person who hasn't fapped in 100 days
@@porteroffinland *uncomfortable Tom*
@@porteroffinland lmaooo
This is a dope video. Hopefully we will get a new manga arc, movie, and/or anime on this dude. Honestly, DBS has created a lot of areas of exploration (like uncovering Yamoshi, exploring Sadala, uncovering Jiren's past and return to the series, Uub's debut and canonization to DBS, WTF Broly is up to and his return to the series, life after Moro, ect.) Thus, Geekdom, you got lot of "Unsolved Mystery" videos ahead bro and I am looking forward to every one of them. 😂
Uub was always canon. He was mentioned in the manga
@@tjhicks3600 ah yes! That's true! Thanks for reminding me. Can't believe I forgot about that. Lol 😆
You know what a cool series would be is a Dragonball series where it follows the What If’s in Dragonball and has mini arcs on each story like what if bardock survived Freizas death ball, or what if gohan had actually killed super buu , and what if goku never got his mind erased, or following Akira toriyamas original concept for Dragonball Z
They are doing a story with twin saiyans that are hinted to be his descendants in DB Legends.
Yeah They Probably Gonna Do That
That's pretty interesting.
They're not hinted to they're flat out stated to have his blood lol
Oh shit shallot is related to yamoshi??
1400 AK read the story it’s when shallot get ssjg
Awesome work Geekdom! Nobody has been working harder then you when it comes to this, Keep it up 👍🏼
Yamoshi is a cool concept, i really hope we DO learn more in the future but it seems unlikely atm
We need spinoffs in Dragonball. I feel like there's so many untold stories that would work! What do you think?
Like a Grandpa Gohan spin off called 'Where are they now?'
Facts man. Things like the Demon Realm haven't even been touched. We have Exploring the 12 Universes, Planet Sadala but everything keeps shifting to Universe 7 problems and recycled plotlines. We might as well create them ourselves 🤣
@Hellfire Not only that Heroes and Dragonball Online have expanded it more. Heroes the game not the promo anime.
@@PotentSenzu yeah that too
Son Goku777 It’s like they are milking U7, considering it isn’t bad because the universe is big asf. Like Broly make sense, and Moro also. They can atleast make the story different.
But yeah considering, they can milk U7 for the next decade, is reasonable tbh. Maybe In 2025. We will see different universes problems
It’s an ass pull to make the moment in the story sound more interesting they have no story behind him at all lol
You hit the nail on the head👍🏿
Pretty much
Facts
That doesn't change the fact that it's canon
Tony Ferguson but it’s fun. At least it can be
Does anyone still care about yamoshi? For all we know Toriyama pulled that out of his ass and forgot about him.
I'm thinking the same, I mean, it's an interesting concept, but I bet that Toriyama forgot about that lol.
I mean personally I love lore so I’d love if it was actually expanded upon
Same with S-Cells. Rlly until it actually comes up in the series, ppl shouldn’t take Toriyama interviews so srsly, there are many contradictions between what he says and the actual events of the show. Not saying it’s impossible but
I love that unsolved mysteries theme. Robert Stack would be so proud of you.
Even though heroes isn’t cannon cumber mentions he recognized the ssg form as well
Dude I love your unsolved mysteries intro! This is the first time I've seen it. Good job bro
Honestly, the series never confirmed that the SSG and legendary super saiyan are the same person
Dude I love the whole Unsolved Mysteries intro, excellent job man!👍🏻
I have feeling that yamoshi will make he's debut in dragon ball legends because shallot and giblet are he's descendent or something like that
Great video, and thanks for that store link because I plan on picking up that sick Kaioken Goku print!
My theory is that he had some form training or he created some form of spirit training like the yardrats.
I hope we get more info on yamoshi I always found this story super interesting!
I always wanted to know more about the ancient Super Saiyans way back when DBZ was airing on TV with the Ocean Dub
Man I love the whole mysticism of early Dragon Ball. Like what you just said and the Nameless Namek who first came to earth. I loved how it was all shrouded in mystery
Love the intro video with Unsolved Mysteries hints with the title card and music.
Always thought that yamoshi was going to be in the last dragon ball film but they remake broly instead
He can come next arc. I would like for him to be treated as an actual God. Not just by transformation.
I think it was better that Broly got introduced he has more lore and it actually makes more sense that he got introduced instead of the ancient Saiyan warrior
Larry T. I agree with you but I’m hoping that they had their reasons for changing it.
As @David Ortiz mentioned, perhaps he (Yamoshi) will be a god like saiyan who is too strong for Goku and vegeta to handle. That they receive assistance from Broly who also gets tossed around by Yamoshi or fights him to stalemate that Yamoshi uses a technique that subdues broly.
I dunno just spitballing here
i’m stoked for this video been looking forward to it
i think maybe yamoshi was planning to do the ritual but maybe couldn’t do it for whatever reason maybe a friend was killed etc. Became super saiyan then figured out the legends were no joke. Then searched the universe to find the potential super saiyan god then use a being like beerus’ thoughts to make sure the transformation would happen
He likely found SSJ on accident. Maybe he asked his five allies for energy and the made physical contact to do so. He likely became one on accident. Since then, his soul has wandered the universe trying to find out what crazy power he gained was.
How could Yamoshi and King Vegeta have lived in the same time if the Legendary Super Saiyan hadn't been seen in 3 millennia (according to Vegeta) Is the King Vegeta we see that fought Frieza and died the 30th of his name? And the King Vegeta you're referring to is his ancestor and they just keep naming the sons of this bloodline Vegeta over and over?
bro listen to yourself, king Vegeta litteraly named his son Vegeta, an when he would have died an the Vegeta we knew acended to the throne he would also be king Vegeta. as well as right before the frieza saga Vegeta litteraly says Vegeta is the royal family name that they renamed the planet after an has been in his family for milena. so yes it's safe to say every king Vegeta at least probly at least named his first born son that the same as the king Vegeta an prince Vegeta we originally knew
In the battle gods movie shenron said that Yamoshi (who he just referred to as a saiyan) led a rebellion against the evil saiyans and he said that Yamoshi DID become a Super saiyan God.
Yamoshi is pretty much the Phoenix force, he's not searching the universe he fused with goku the first time he went ssjg, that's my theory
That does beg another question. Is he also bonded with Vegeta? After all he can go SSG as well. Could he even theoretically be bonded with all the Saiyans that contributed to the ritual? Including the half ones and maybe even Pan?
@@Naruku2121 goku will be the only one he's bonded with, everyother saiyan is just siphoning saiyan god force from goku
I think the spirit theory is right. Coz when Goku transforms to SSG, the clouds was exactly looking same as the clouds under the snakeway in the otherworld.
what if yamoshi's spirit entered goku's body when goku turned into a super saiyan god, idk tho but i saw someone saying something along those lines
Hope Yamoshi will appear even in a short time since Master Toriyama's passing.
Yamoshi could have been a kami of the saiyans, would make sense how he could traverse the cosmos after being dead, since the kami of earth could freely go to the after life to guide souls
Love the unsolved mysteries theme...was waiting for Robert Stack to speak...hahaha
I have a feeling that Yamoshi will have an integral role in the db universe. I think he'll probably find some way to make contact with goku and they'll have a conversation with each other about things. My theory is that Yamoshi will tell Goku about his past, the destruction of planet vegeta and how Beerus played a role in it.
i been waiting for this video geekdom 🔥🔥🔥
Gine's ancestor was one of the good hearted saiyans. She's not a fighter and good hearted. I'd call it canon
The fact of shenron knows where yamoshi is it probably means that we will see him in dragonball super at some point im the saga
I wonder when Yamoshi died and his spirit traveled the universe so to speak, he gained some ancient wisdom about the gods and god ki. It kind of reminds me of UI when the body moves without the mind getting in the way. Yamoshi's mind could have opened up to possibilities his form bound body could never have. I dont know. Goku could be the reincarnation of Yamoshi or one of his descendants. Did Yamoshi have a family? or not?
Finally in how many years you delve into this, you've hardly talked of him ever, not that you haven't, it's I haven't seen a video labelled after him since the info of S-cells came out. I understand that very little has been revealed, and not a single dragon ball episode of him is out, atleast to what I can remember. Ive just been n waiting for u to talk of yamoshi, I just felt you knew more than most of him.
"Hah, that's great! Wait, did I write that?"
Huh
Wow that is a good story of yamoshi. And I enjoy your video mate 👌
I remember I was getting kinda annoyed back when the dbs broly teaser first dropped because everybody and their mama was convinced that it was Yamoshi and wouldn't shut up about it, its not that I don't like Yamoshi, it's just that they wouldn't stop saying his name💀
Another awesome video... loved the intro
In Dragon Ball Legends is implied that Shallot and Giblet are descendant from Yamoshi since they know about SSG. And yeah it's a mobile video game but hey they are filling in sole of those questions
Not implied, completely confirmed.
Great video geekdom!
oh nice! Im surprised he hasnt shown up yet honestly... in anything
I can't wait till one day these shows are rebooted and told with a better story and just as much action one day .
I feel like a reboot of Pokemon is coming soon .
There is some details you had missed out on Danny that was stated by Shenron in the original BoG movie.
"Long ago, a small group of saiyans questioned the evil of their race and formed a rebellion, by creating a Super Saiyan God.
The Super Saiyan God had easily overcome his enemies with his immense power, but soon vanished because he could not sustain his power and in time the memory of the Super Saiyan God became lost and merely a myth, but I still know how to create a Super Saiyan God."
I think that the character of Yamoshi had been created by Toriyama with the intention of being introduced as a flashback of what happened in the past, but wound up with most of it cut from the script or production to keep the movie runnning time within a set time limit.
Remember, Akira Toriyama had intended flr the Broly movie to have a 3 hour script, but Toei had cut alot of stuff out and reduced it to 1 hr 40 mins or something.
I suspect though tgat Yamashi's name was not mentioned in the movies because of the script editing and so, part of the story of Yamoshi was lost because of Toei editing.
I have watched this a couple times. I love this video bud
Interviewer: Toriyama Sensei what about Yamoshi?
Toriyama: Who?
How things are going with Toriyama, Toryotaro and Toei we'll never have concrete information in Dragon Ball. Remember the S-cells thing 😂?
Also Akira once thought ssj 3 was ssj 2
Really enjoyed this one!😁
I have an idea so we all know that Yomishi and his friends had righteous hearts and that most Saiyans aren’t like that so he ends up only finding these five other Saiyan differing in ages and Yomoshi being the strongest ends up going super Saiyan for his survival backed into a corner and wanting to protect his comrades and as the fighting continues he ends up being the only one standing so the other Saiyans give him their last bit of energy so they can hopefully win since he was the strongest of the group and goes super Saiyan god but bc he just went super Saiyan that was hard enough to control ends up destroying his body and having his godly spirt roam until he is finally at peace when he sees Goku become a super Saiyan and sees he’s heart was righteous maybe yomoshi saw Goku in his spaceship right before namek now this could be dub mess up but I remember him saying something just happened when right before he landed so that could’ve been yomoshi spirt giving Goku a push to super Saiyan not understanding how to make him transform let me know your thought geekdom and some of this was just thought up while typing so it might not sound exactly right but I’ll clear things up if you ask something especially on things I ain’t thought of
JBcoolbreez thanks and m liking some of you stuff as well
Maybe the blessing and curse mentioned that some God gave Yamoshi was that his race would be blessed with that power, but Yamoshi would not be able to pass on to the afterlife until he completed this goal?
I feel like it was King Vegeta's father's or grandfather's army Yamoshi fought
Yamoshi studied the legend of akumo and tried to replicate that power
Akuma?
I really want them to make Dragon Ball spin-offs. Imagine Hit or Pride Troopers episodes. Or imagine History of Sadala: Yamoshi
All I've ever wanted is an arc where Hit and the Saiyans of that universe fight some major threat like their universe's of buu. No Goku and Vegeta, just new characters getting the spotlight.
@@cherrylk4188 that doesn't exist because that doesn't sell merchandise. LOL
@@MDCGaming87 Not just that, It would make sense to focus the episode on other characters, but still keep Goku and Vegeta there. Goku and Vegeta are the main characters, why tf would they just not include them?
@@Xeno574 You know its possible to divert attention away from the main characters for an amount of time. All sorts of stories do it. Animes, movies, books, you name it. Goku and Vegeta don't need to be present in everything for a story to function, and one short arc without them wouldn't suddenly take away their title of main characters.
That being said, I'm fully aware they won't ever do it because Goku and Vegeta are the ones on the t-shirts.
@@cherrylk4188 I didn't say it would take away their titles. To me atleast it doesn't make sense for them to be completely removed for even a few episodes, especially like you said, merchandising.
Yamoshi actually doesnt exist anymore. We know that is fact from when shenron was summoned to bring a super saiyan god to fight for beerus, and shenron says "there is no super saiyan god alive in present time, however there is a way to create one in saiyan mythology." So meaning yamoshi existed at 1 point in history but doesnt anymore.
Maybe goku is genetically related to him somehow or maybe his spirit got rencatnted into goku
Awesome video and the intro 🔥🔥🔥💯👍🏿
The storyline of Dragon Ball legends may give us this answer probably..
Yamoshi appearing in a video game or a manga special would be pretty interesting.
Here is my theory: Yamoshi rebelled against his King Vegeta during a time when there were more Kaioshin in Universe 7, who take a more active role in guiding mortals in general. It was the Kaioshin who gave Yamoshi the knowledge of Super Saiyan God as a way to balance against King Vegeta who, in my personal theory, was either an early Legendary Super Saiyan or maybe just an early regular Super Saiyan who was conquering and destroying worlds in Universe 7. In either case, Yamoshi had lost the fight with King Vegeta and was killed but not before fatally weakening King Vegeta. Yamoshi's spirit living on is more of a metaphor than literal, in that maybe his lineage continued and/or just the memory of his deeds lived on. With King Vegeta not able to secure his influence the Saiyans fragment and collapse but the Saiyans remember his strength and the Super Saiyan transformation. When Battle of Gods was written, more than likely Toriyama or the writers an Toei had not came up with Universe 6 and the other alternate universes but when they were writing Super maybe something like this had come up and would use it as a basis for Universe 6 Saiyans in that the Universe 6 their version of Yamoshi succeded.
How do u fatally weaken someone lmao
@@BaliUchiha
Look up 1st Hokage vs Madara and that should give you a better explanation of that
Terrez Harris nigga performed izanagi only thing he lost from that battle was a eye
he existed 500 years before king vegeta was alive
Bandai and Toei Animation was telling the story of yamoshi in this specific game story, DB Legends. As Shallot and Giblet fight they tell things like:
• they were partners of yamoshi
• they live in the time of yamoshi
• they fighting the blood of the tainted which are the evil saiyans and that's how they are evil (like the bardock special)
• they were having a rebellion against this evil saiyan (prediction cumber) who made all saiyans evil
• the pure saiyans are the blood of the defeated
• so goku and vegeta were tainted saiyans
That's all I know and predict from some fan mangas that cumber is the cause the rebellion with pure saiyans
I came here in 0.000000000001 second.I have finally surpassed the speed of Grand Priest!Hahahahahhaha!😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣
No, I was here before this video even existed. 😏😂🤣😂😜
Your boss rabbit teir at best... maybe...
Perhaps the super Saiyan god thing at first was just like either Yamoshi or one before him was originally being a gog of destruction with different ritual to becoming one but he needed more power so he manages to turn into super Saiyan along with his comrades to gain enough power to complete the ritual and not only be a super Saiyan but also a god of destruction and that's how the whole super Saiyan god thing happened
8 seconds gang
Big schlong gang
Yah
more like No life gang
@@nightwalker174 o please
Thanks geekdom
My Theory is, Maby Goku is Yamoshi is reincarnated and was going to recount his past experiences but lost them when he hit his head as a kid.
Love your opening for this series.
Ssj1>Frieza
Ssj2>Cell
Ssj3
ssj3 is stronger than both majin and kid buu, the only buu stronger is super buu/buutenks/buuhan
MemerCat its around the same power as kid buu but kid buu still wins since he has unlimited stamina and regeneration and ssj3 has very limited stamina.
My money’s on Yamoshi being the first Super Saiyan and his spirit being the reason the rituals requires 5 righteous Saiyans as a way to honor or avenge his friends with his spirit getting the God Ki and giving it to Goku making him the first Super Saiyan God
Remember when the fanboys thought Cumber & DBS Broly were gonna be Yamoshi? LMAO
I love Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack! Seen every episode!
I think its possible that he wasnt necessarily trying to go super sayain god but was just trying to power up as much as possible and stumbled onto a new form while doing that
I think it would be a really fulfilling and full circle story if Toriyama uses yamoshi to tie Dragon Ball back into its "Journey to the west" roots
Like have yamoshi be Dragon Ball's version of "Son Wukong" and then have "Son Goku" be his reincarnation this would also be a good way to explain the abnormalities in Goku's abilities
You could even make a story arc where Goku is pushed so far to where yamoshi reawakens within him giving goku all his memories of the previous life and even a cool scene where his tail like mystically regenerates and he gains a like SSJ4 God form and even a power pole he can summon at will
Love the unsolved mysteries thing at the beginning.
One of the most favorite discussion all the times.. believe me I can't wait for that video now it's here ..
Love to he heat about DBZ and Bruce falcouner And here is yamoshi
The intros on these are so dope
I don't know if this is the first video with that intro but holy shit I was laughing hard. Great stuff
I love the dragon ball mysteries logo fyi absolutely genius
You know what’s crazy is that he covered most of the possibilities I had thought of that’s crazy to me because Geekdom out of every Dragon Ball content creator I watch he’s the only one with the most knowledge of the show and based off his explanations and thoughts it just shows me I have really profound knowledge of Dragon Ball lol
Thanks for brining the Yamoshi subject back. Felt like they should have brought Yamoshi out in the movie instead of Broly.
When it comes to Dragonball, people always say things like "I hope they wish the saiyans back" or "Go to planet Sandala".... But Yamoshi is something I want to see. He really feels like something a movie can be dedicated too.
This is actually something I can get behind. I would love to see Yamoshi in the next arc. And I would love for him to be an actual deity.
Great Video one of the best RUclipsr
Love this video dude I hope we see more of him like a special like bardock hopefully
Maybe this is tied down with Merus? Reasoning why he was so fond of Goku with only 6 months of training