The DARK Truth of Life After Prison | Tim Lambesis of AS I LAY DYING
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- Опубликовано: 3 май 2024
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Hosted by guitar player & founder of Suicide Silence, Chris Garza
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I wish he would talk about the trauma and how that affected his children and if he took steps to heal those relationships.
I was wishing for this too, but I recently learned that he’s legally not allowed to even talk about them. He broke down about it on Jamey Jasta’s show not too long ago.
@@Tymcmunn I saw that too
Not to mention, who’s to say the family even wants that. Healing may look far different for them than what he needs to heal.
He has many times. It's in his lyrics as well in basically the entirety of shaped by fire.
@@Lilith2002-j3v it's none of our business. I will not talk about his sins behind his back if you won't talk about mine. I have done bad things too.
Phil a real one for the way he handled that with Tim. Hope they all can find a way to heal past the trauma together. We are all only human no one is perfect.
The man tried to hire someone to kill his wife. The fact this person really wanted someones life to end like this says a lot.
@@MrGirthzillamortality police. We can't all be perfect like you.
@@emersonr7481 don't get me wrong, i have forgiven Tim and love his music still, i am past of what he did... but what he did is not really a good example of what it means to not be perfect you know
really? he wanted his wife dead. i dont know how you can excuse that, but i guess you like his music so its okay?
@@emersonr7481 Yerah, who hasn't attempted murder before? it's so common, right?
As I lay Dying is my favorite band
yikes dude
@@maktub224 I am not one to cast judgement. They are the best Metalcore band ever, and it's not close.
This guys ruined a good thing for the other members in the band.
Its sad this dude lost faith, normally prison gives people faith because it puts everything into perspective.
I agree with the second part. Thing is, for a lot of people, "putting everything into perspective" often means quite the opposite of faith in higher powers and whatnot.
Never did I feel more relieved, comfortable and just genuinely happy than when my faith changed to, "I don't know and I'm no longer going to pretend that I or anyone else knows"...
The track take what's left of their last album had me almost every time i heard it wanted to cry specially that heavy,sad intro😢❤
Killer interview 😅
Tim served his time
Bro ruined all his personal relationships, I don't think any of them owe him a single thing. Blaming their "trauma responses" is crazy. They will never view him the same way. Period. Personally I find it WILD that Tim has been given any voice whatsoever after his release wether it be on a podcast, or through touring with AILD again. Musicians have been rightfully cast out for much less. I think most of the original band members giving him a shot and subsequently leaving says a lot.
Well, yeah, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
You’re not wrong, nobody owes him anything. But I never got the feeling he blamed their trauma responses. In fact, I felt he acknowledged it and understood that their trauma response was normal.
@@TimmyTurner421 yeah, so whats your opinion man?
yes my dude spot on 💯!!!!
Just your opinion, he already paid jail, Tim don't need to do more for them
Why don't you interview his ex-wife? See how she feels? Fuck his trauma.
Agreed! Aint no way in the world his ex-wife forgives him for trying to have her killed for only $1000 is sickening ! Yes you can forgive him and give him another chance, and yes people have done much worse than he has , but you will never forget what they've done ! They can move on and change, but no one has to forgive them and still connect with them! He ruined his children's relationship with him, it's not easy to forgive your father who tried to kill your Mother, that's crazy ! He didn't serve enough time to heal! "As I Lay Dying" is a great choice of words smh, she would have been murdered if he wasn't caught!
exactly
I met Tim here in the town I'm from at a concert a couple years back and he was such nice dude
Yup! He is.
You shouldn’t plot murder, duh, but there’s definitely a lot that led up to feeling like that was the only way out.
@@jsimsgt96 I don't wanna be a judgmental prick, but plotting to murder anyone, let alone the mother of your kids, is very extreme. I've fucked up in a thousand ways, especially in moments when I was emotionally drained, depressed, anxious, frustrated, etc. In those less-than-glorious moments, I've yelled and said hurtful words, but it never ever crossed my mind physically assaulting anyone, much less killing them. I understand that Tim was going through a rough time and the steroids affected his mind, but what he did was really serious. Imagine if he had actually hired a real assassin instead of talking with the undercover cop when busted him. His ex-wife would be dead. The only reason she's still alive is thanks to the undercover cop, not Tim changing his mind about the murder. That's really sad.
Aaaawwww
He was just walking by and I said hey tim, fan of your stuff man have a good show and safe rest of your tour and he actually took the time to stop and talk to me for a minute. He just seems like a genuine normal dude you could hang out with at a BBQ or some shit
He tried to kill his wife.
Is Garza 7Songs son?
I've never really been able to figure out Tim after years and years
Tim always makes it seem like he’s the victim in this whole situation. Like he’s the “survivor” so to speak. Blaming other peoples trauma responses is wild.
Did they take away his Tiktak account in prison?
I sit in a weird spot with my feelings on Tim and AILD. I obviously still love the old music, and gave the newer stuff it's fair shot, and it's what you'd expect, super solid metalcore. The weird thing for me is Tim himself, as expected. Idk if I fully believe he's redeemed himself, gotten better, etc. I can see he's making an effort, and that's more than can be said for alot in the industry... but he's also did MUCH worse than most get caught doing. I can see both sides being true; either he is genuinely getting better and trying to make things right where he can... or he's a master manipulator/good at making it SEEM like he's better or trying to, etc. I wanna forgive and move on, that's just my nature, but it's also hard to with the circumstances and what he's done, or atleast tried to have done. All I know for sure is, for once I'm glad police did their damn job and caught him, especially glad for the gym bro that tipped em off.
He s admitted to choosing hardcore being the easiest to play. And having the Christian angle he knew they d pick up steam. This whole dude's life is falsehood.
Feels weird airing out other people's dirty laundry when they're not there to defend themselves or give their side..
I dug the new 'Austrian Death Machine' tracks.
8:21 makes sense since nick was adamant on saying he felt Tim hadn’t changed due to resumed behaviors on touring.
I mean that can only be a certain number of things, certainly not killing someone. But maybe some booze or smoke or ladies. Doesn’t mean those things are ok but it is a process I assume. But the faster you get better the better for everyone else as well, cuz you did do the damage in the first place.
Lapsing back into bad habits tends to fall like dominos. You don’t beeline back to your worst. You get there by retracing the steps that initially lead you there.
AILD was my favorite band for so many years and I used to look up to Tim. Yeah we all make mistakes, but there’s a difference between Tim and someone like Randy Blythe. Randy got sober, made things right with those close to him, and changed his behavior. Tim tried to have his wife killed, the mother of his children. He ruined relationships with those close to him, and from what Nick said, some of his behaviors never changed. What Tim did was more than just a mistake. He made conscious decisions and the cost was great to more people than just him. Jordan and Nick leaving the band says A LOT and their character has never come into question. I’ll personally never go see the band again live and I‘ll never care about any of the new music.
But you'll care to make a comment about how bad he still is every chance you get huh? What Tim did was absolutely disgusting and vile and shameful. But you have to remember that Tim was heavily on steroids and that affected his thoughts and emotions. If Randy gets a pass for being a drunk constantly (which also affects emotions and thoughts and turns you into a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON) then why can't Tim at least get some of the free pass you give to Randy? Randy made a conscious decision to be a drunk and popping pills for years and hurt the people around him too. Tim got clean, changed his life, and came out of this a better man than he was before. Oh one of his bandmates that already didn't like him and was looking for a reason to justify his exit said his 'behavior' didn't change? That's because the road to recovery and mending fences doesn't change overnight. Tim was having to rewire himself after the steroids and the guilt he RIGHTFULLY was feeling. He wasn't going to walk out of that cell and do a 180 and be a brand new Tim. And honestly, I'm so sick of hearing about how his bandmates feel about this, as if he was going to send the hitman towards them next. What Tim did was only against one person, him ex wife. Not his bandmates crying and trying to paint themselves as victims too. It's kinda funny how this band started off as a Christian band, yet the concept of forgiveness and accepting your guilt and your punishment and seeking redemption is completely alien to them. Does Tim deserve to be forgiven? That's not up to me, only the one who he actually tried to hurt can decide that. But he certainly doesn't deserve the endless hate from people that he never harmed.
Have you ever been in a situation with a woman who was bleeding you dry of your resources. A woman who was taking away your children and not allowing you to see them or have visitation. A woman who was legitimately trying to destroy your life. I have. And trust me. I may not have gone through with it. But I definitely thought about and considered doing what Tim did. And the justice system doesn't help matters much. Men go through the meat grinder when it comes to divorce and family court. There is nothing fair about that whole shit show. So I understand.
We don't know what that man went through with that woman to do what he did. But I can atleast understand some of the feelings that were going through his mind. Being someone who has been through and survived the family court meat grinder. I don't don't know the full story of what happened. Don't know Tim's side of what was going on that time. But I think I have a pretty good idea. And if it is what I think it is. I understand. And I can forgive. He made a mistake. He paid for it. People should let it go. I'm glad that an actual murder didn't take place. But you can't tell me that there isn't men out there who haven't at least thought about or considered having the same thing done to one of their ex's.
...good for you? No one cares.
@@Joose You cared. You cared a significant amount. You took time out of your day to show us how much you cared.
bro became a master manipulator behind bars lmfaooo
No he didn't. He's owning it
Here before the morality police who never made any mistakes in their life get here
There’s a huge amount of middle ground between “mistakes” and attempting to hire a hit man to kill your wife. Maybe one day you can have a conversation with the women in your life about how you support people like this.
And yet, you have nothing to actually say?
Nah. I could say that it's obviously been ignored that when you are going overboard on steroids and your testosterone levels are that out of whack, you aren't thinking clearly especially when angry and you're going to do things you wouldn't typically do. I've never touched the stuff and I know that much. The chances that what Tim did has anything to do with the kind of person he actually is inside are about 0%-2%.
It's "Oops! All extensive plans to unalive a woman" - part of a coping fan's breakfast
Hiring a hitman on your spouse is a little more than “a mistake” it’s messed up on every level
This dude got off way too light. You can do your "healing" behind bars, Tim. I got divorced in 2007 and began a new life. Child grew up. Ex is still alive. We don't plan assassinations when relationships go bad. We move on and grow.
I think this is a stain on an otherwise amazing platform. Garza is clearly uncomfortable, here. Not sure he thought booking this guest through.
youre projecting a lot here dude
CRAZIEST DUDE !!!!
dude...really ???, this guy was going to have the mother of 3 children taken out. EVIL IS EVIL. theres nothing to redeem.
Wrong. Did his time and redeemed himself
@@TimmyTurner421 sorry but that's not redemption material.
I don’t think that you believe he can redeem himself. So there is literally nothing he could do to redeem himself to meet your standards. Thats fine, but don’t pretend otherwise.
You can’t redeem yourself. Only God can redeem you
if you're going on stage, you want to show you're a good role model for people, or its about fame and Money.
There is way too much black and white thinking about this subject. There is so much in between. Instead we just resort to “he tried to kill his wife and he will forever be that.” If that’s your opinion on this subject, you’re a part of a much larger problem which is that you are contributing to the narrative of this country that people are incapable of rehabilitation. How can people rehabilitate if society has already determined that’s not possible? You can disavow what he did and believe that he’s capable of rehabilitation. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
what about chomo, can they rehabilitate too in your opinion?
7:10 poor Tim 😢💔
I can feel the dislikes count.
🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
How are his balls and the adopted kids he abandoned?
Jordan, Nick, and Josh left again. That means Tim is still the problem with the band.
Everyone that was in or still is in the band has made the choice. The choice the best fits the individual to attain healing and closure. Nothing wrong with what works best for someone else. The mistakes were made. Tim served his time. The damage is done. The healing can continue. Let the band and the past members have their peace. Aild does and will always have a huge staple In The metal scene. Was the best of the best 2000s metalcore band imo. Great new song guys really brought back old school sound. Keep up the good work. Really would like to see the new guys. Bring in some of their influence. ❤❤❤ keep healing. It’s you against you. Fuck the opinions of others. They have there own meat temple for a reason. To do it with it they want. This has been my Ted talk.
So many bleeding hearts in the comment section.
Yo, imagine platforming a guy who tried to murder his wife lol. Absolutely wild. Insane.
Dude you’ve made like 5 comments on this same video saying the same thing. You’re literally not changing anybody’s mind, just wasting your own time lol
@@DCT97 Yeah not changing anyone's mind that likes the fact he tried murdering his ex wife ! You should maybe join his shitty band
did you see the Thumbnail with both of them crying?
Man…i was at their show when he announced he was getting married. I think that was when as i lay dying was known as “life once lost”
I don’t believe they were ever know as that band name. There was a band around the same time with that name. Completely different sounding bands
I am glad he is doing better, I think he redeemed himself and became a better person. I've known people who have done insane crimes and they went to prison after they gotten out and they changed their lives.
Huh? He tried to murder his wife lol. Are you insane?
@@darksydeflow he did time for his crime. I like to give people second chances. I have met people who have done way worse crimes than him but they changed their life after prison
He hasn’t changed
@@Roman-vo9hj don’t judge it’s not in your right to judge only god could judge not you so keep your opinions to yourself
Met Tim in 2008, im pretty sure he was crop dusting the backstage. Dude had the farts, the silent but deadlies
thank you for your input
Not everyone deserves redemption.
He doesn't.
Oh boo hoo. This guy tried to have his wife killed.
He's so brave.
Yeah because you knew his wife from top to bottom along with the whole back story. Please get off the internet.
Didn't this guy try to hire someone to do a hit job?
Yea on his then wife.
And somehow he’s a victim lol
It’s amazing how many people fall for that crap. You’re not going to find a real hitman on the internet nor by talking to your personal trainer.
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlordSo what exactly are you trying to say here 🤣🤣🤣 $1000 to hire someone to kill your wife , it would have still been done if he wasn't caught, you enjoy still supporting this criminal ?
@@TimPool.BeanieCivilWarlord a "real hitman" the dude wanted to have his wife killed , that's real !!!! That's insane
7:20 that's exactly me when i can't hold my emotions
Believe me guys something supernatural just possessed him when he decided to the unthinkable..
This type of getting emotional outbursts are exactly just like mine and I hope things go the way he wants to..at least God loved this man so much and you know how much he was lucky hiring a cop instead of a hitman
You don't know how good he felt after the plan gone wrong
As a little kid,i pushed my sister and she was dropped by the back of her head and she was 25 yo when i was a 7,8 yo.of course a kid couldn't hold her that bad but she really left me traumatized by acting...💔
Anyway guys i can swear to God this man emotional outbursts just remembered me of mine's
I don't know but he's a musician
And him getting emotional here showcases that even if tim really wanted to kill her wife that day,he was just possessed..
Respectfully he should still be in prison. I wish Garza wouldn’t have given him a platform. That’s bad on Garza.
Why should he still be in prison?
@@Job.Well.Done_01 seriously?
@@bobbyincidemetal I understand where you’re coming from. In my experience, I have personally seen several individuals who have served hard time and changed completely forever as a result. I’m talking about hard time. Real prison time. Doesn’t matter how heinous the crime; that’s what judges are there for- to determine an appropriate sentence for each case, each individual. It would occur to me that this individual has served his time as the judicial system set upon him. What is he supposed to do? Rot in purgatory?
@@Job.Well.Done_01 Yeah, pretty much. Change means nothing. He tried to have someone killed. Thats premeditated murder. He got off way too easy.
@@bobbyincidemetal I am not condoning the crime. I am saying the judge ruled, and Tim served his sentence.
People make mistakes and this man sure did but, he served his time, doesn’t deny his actions and takes responsibility and accountability for his actions. At this point it’s beating a dead horse. Everyone deserves forgiveness and redemption. Everyone deserves second chances. You still have a fan in me regardless. Great music is great music!
He tried to kill his wife.
@@darksydeflow Yes and it’s very, very wrong and I do not condone that type of behavior or violence. It’s evil and wrong. I just don’t understand why this has to continue to be a topic was my point. I do still like the music. I have to say though, anytime I hear the band name, or listen to the music I think of this exact subject. The name, music, and everything else it’s connected to will always have a horrible thing attached to it. I think he’s sorry for what he’s done, I think he has learned his lesson but, who am I? I am certainly not in a place or position to judge the man. I don’t know him personally either. So it’s simply not my place to hate him. I will however say again, what he did was not okay. It was evil. I think he knows and understands this. I just don’t know why it has to be a topic of discussion. If it’s his way of healing or moving on from it maybe it’s better kept with his therapist and maybe not something to keep in the mainstream as a topic of conversation. Idk… I am just me, and my opinions are mine and everyone has one.
There's no such thing as "serving time" for murder or attempted murder.
@@erior9662 you are not wrong! I stand corrected.
Lol
I’ve seen AILD many times after time was out. He is honestly doing great! Such a wonderful guy!
I wouldn't be here if not for forgiveness... Prayers for all involved
Do you think God forgave him for trying to murder his ex-wife ? He got caught 😂 and now trying to act like he's a "changed man" from only being in prison for a short amount of time! He knew what he was doing , $1000 to try and have your wife killed is beyond me and much more worse than saying he made a "mistake" yall need help, nobody forgives him for trying to have his ex wife murdered and ruined his kids relationship with him, htf will his children forgive him for trying to murder their Mother ?....
Here before comments about Tim doing something too metal to be in the scene. So ironic
If this guy got his way. His wife would be dead, who knows what would have happened to all the kids they adopted, and everyone would have pity on him for losing his wife in a "freak accident". He would go about life getting sympathy from everyone around him, and no one would know the truth. That's crazy
@@glitchyrhythm6749 it very much would become one of those unsolved case mysteries, that we hear about. Then maybe years later detectives might eventually piece everything together and it would become another mystery investigation that everyone would talk about.
@@glitchyrhythm6749didn’t happen that way tho so 🤷♀️
@@stonecoldsteverharvey7862 I guess my point is, forgiveness is one thing. But that doesn't mean you act like it never happened. This is serious stuff. I don't blame his friends for keeping their distance
@@stonecoldsteverharvey7862 🔊🎶 "your distance is darkness!!"🔊🎶
Sorry I couldn't miss that opportunity
I believe in rehabilitation. Way more productive.
You can get A LOT of women by doing time. That’s one of the perks of such a terrible experience.
Some people here mad because hi is no longer your christian dude.
We all have made mistakes in life . Ever since Tim had gotten his life on track , I have respected his dedication to help those who are struggling in life .
Trying to have someone killed is beyond a "mistake"
🤣🤣🤣 because mentally he's still struggling in his life by trying to have his ex wife killed , and if he wasn't caught she would be dead !!! Have several seats
People make mistakes. They don't need to pay for it the rest of YOUR life. He did his time. It's not effecting YOU, so who cares!?
You either forgive him or move on. I have forgiven him because I have plenty of SINS I have committed. Just glad the deed never happened. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
He did his time, people need to stop crying in the comments. Sure, he tried to have his wife murdered, but we're talking about a woman who tried to use their children as pawns to break him down as a man. Long story short, stop crying.
So that gives him the right to try and hire a hit man to kill his now ex wife ? Why would you even bring up his ex wife's children being used as pawns to try and break him down??? You're basically saying she deserved almost being murdered ! That's insane, your comment doesn't get any respect here ! Maybe you tried to commit the same thing in your life or still planning on to! I hope he doesn't try to MURDER his current wife ! Go kick rocks dude
I feel bad for Tim I totally understand what he was feeling I don’t have anything against him I’m still and always will be a heavy listener of as I lay dying
the rest of his band seem a bunch of children