The longer the show goes on the more grateful I am for this podcast. This show along with Rappin with Reef Bum has been my fix to take the place of Jake's old Reef Therapy, love it!!! Please keep doing it, and thank you for this show!!!
Chris is a home run, the more time you have the better the interview. A year later, listening again, you two cover a lot of “off the beaten path” topics.
This is what I’ve been waiting for when it comes to sps . Very detailed specifics on coral care based on species and referencing it to the trade names that are available so we the regular hobbyist can get an idea . Thanks!
I think Acro trade names should also include the species at the end of the name. It Will make it easier for hobbyist to research that specific species and help us determine the care of that type. Like the Cali “tort”, blue “stylo”, rainbow “Milli “ and so on. We get an idea of what species it is and can determine the care requirements that specific species needs. Just a thought :) .
@@chasencorals I'd love that too, but it's only possible if you know the species, which isn't the case for most corals. I suspect we'd end up with a lot of misidentified corals in the hobby if this became a widespread practice, and that would counteract the goal, by causing people to look up info on the wrong species. Maybe someday genetic testing will be cheaper/easier and could make this more feasible.
1:21:46 Acropora natalensis. The restrictions for PAR number differences are mostly valid for corals under LEDs. Halides and T5s are more forgivable. This channel is so great! Thanks for the stream, Adam and Chris. Like #30! Love you guys!
I think Chris is 100% correct about not acclimating corals My losses on new corals were always from messing around with dipping in a tub and not getting them into my clean tank asap
Amazing show!!!! I really enjoyed the presentation style and the expert knowledge from you two! Do you think you might publish a list of the acros and what you both rated them light, flow & difficulty? That would be huge for us hobbyists! Thanks guys!😊
@@fraggarage5922 Appreciate the hard work you and Chris have put into this. Ranking the difficulty of these Acropora has been one of the most useful learnings in my reefing journey. Knowing that some acros are easier than the others gives me confidence in getting started into SPS
@@stantan6130 that's awesome to hear! If you happen to go through them again for any reason and want to give me the timestamps, I will put those in so people can find each species quickly.. no pressure though! cheers :)
Great stream. As always! I was so proud of myself for growing my pink Cadillac out into a colony and coloring it up nice, until it just got a 2 rating on the difficulty level🤣🤣. I’m just messing! Still proud🤣! Great stream
4:58 A. tenuis does exist and it is still found in the wild, and could be imported only from Fiji and Tonga. Not from Indonesia nor Australia. So Acropora bifaria is what we thought was A. tenuis from Indonesia, in the type locality of Java (followed studies need to establish its distribution) , and Acropora kenti is what we thought was A. tenuis from Australia. The name change was because accordingly to the genetic samples from Indonesia and Australia, we know now they are not the same as the "real" A. tenuis, originally reported from Fiji and Tonga. There were also considerable variations in gross morphology, which could also be attributed to environmental factors. Gotta LOVE ACROS!
Love this one and the whole podcast, thanks Adam for all you do. Has slowly turned into my favorite listens when it comes to reefing. Love Chris but I can’t help but notice every podcast he’s on when speaking about light in relation to nutrients, it seems as if the entire hobby feels the exact opposite. Higher nutrients can handle more light as opposed to vice versa, what’s Chris seeing that no one else is😂😂
my favourite reefing podcast keep it up!! are you going to be dropping some merch? nice looking hat would definitely pick one up to support and rep the podcast!
I have 3 Neptune Sky over a 200 gallon with 2 Kessils and I have a Radion XR 30 Pro G6 (also with a Kessil) over a 50 gallon, and I very much prefer the look of the tank with the Neptune Sky lights. On paper, they are basically the same light power-wise. They Sky just looks better imho. This is 2 brand new tanks with white rock and sand, no corals or fish. The Radion has a noisy disco effect compared to the Sky, and the Radion also costs more and I am probably going to have to buy a diffuser if I can't get used to the disco. It's really apparent to me because my tanks are only feet apart.
When your talking about par in the beginning, the peak numbers are great but how long are xyz coral getting xyz number? Is chris hitting them with 600 par for 12 hours 8? 4?
@@fraggarage5922 if the only thing you changed was to lengthen the peak period (to say 7 or 8 hours), what changes would you expect to see with your sps?
@@joshv204 Well my understanding is that the photosynthesis in the zooxanthelea maxes out at about 4 hours, so in theory, I would guess that some of the coloration/protective pigments are produced outside of that window. I think the tolerance is different depending on the light source though. I used to run T5 for a peak period of 9 hours, but I wouldn't do that with LED. Another interesting idea would be running two photo periods in one day, 6 on, 6 off etc..
@@fraggarage5922 ok so if I’m understanding you, it’s possible you may get more color with a longer period but not any more growth. Oooh the idea of alternating light periods so you get two a day is intriguing…
Acropora tenuis is still used, but only from where the original holotype was collected from which I believe was Fiji (dana 1846) and I believe the Acropora hyacinthus holotype was from Fiji too so that means these from Indo and Aus will get different names too……the most ridiculous name change at the moment is Turbibaria peltata changed to Duncanopsammia peltata…but leaves all other tubinarias still together…crazy.
Does anyone know why sps would turn green? All my parameters are fine. I feel like it’s a lighting or trace element issue. I have a red wing milli that’s turning green as well
Chris seems to indicate that whites are very important This seems counter to the common mantra that corals use blues and whites are a waste of What’s the real answer? I run my whites at about half the % of my blues - I also prefer that look greatly over the higher white look
It's hard to say for sure.. Although most of the corals we keep spend a lot of their time each day in 'bluer' depths of water, I think LED spectrums of a blue are a pretty 'tight' band, at a specific nanometer, unlike the blue spectrum produced by halides and LED.. That said, I still think blues in the LED spectrum help with colouration and growth. It would be interesting to see someone try growing acros under just whites for a while, with the blues at 0% (if they can tolerate looking at their tank in the meantime haha).
I love hearing Chris speak - but it was a little bit of a disappointment. Most people in the hobby aren't into acros and it would have been more interested hearing about lps. Either way good video - if you're into sps. ;) Keep up the great guests and next time less sps.
Even if your statistics were true about the total in the hobby, most people who watch videos like these are into sps, plus they are significantly more difficult to keep long term than your typical lps or softy therefor it makes sense theres more talk about how to keep them.
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The longer the show goes on the more grateful I am for this podcast. This show along with Rappin with Reef Bum has been my fix to take the place of Jake's old Reef Therapy, love it!!! Please keep doing it, and thank you for this show!!!
Thanks Danny! You are very welcome!
I’m really excited about this podcast and parts 1-6. The two biggest coral nerds since Jake Adams. I love it
hahah I hope it doesn't have to be 6 parts!
Chris is a home run, the more time you have the better the interview. A year later, listening again, you two cover a lot of “off the beaten path” topics.
thanks man! Definitely need to finish this series early next year! They are a lot of work (for me in editing) haha
This is what I’ve been waiting for when it comes to sps . Very detailed specifics on coral care based on species and referencing it to the trade names that are available so we the regular hobbyist can get an idea . Thanks!
You're welcome! We'll keep 'em coming
I think Acro trade names should also include the species at the end of the name. It Will make it easier for hobbyist to research that specific species and help us determine the care of that type. Like the Cali “tort”, blue “stylo”, rainbow “Milli “ and so on. We get an idea of what species it is and can determine the care requirements that specific species needs. Just a thought :) .
@@chasencorals I'd love that too, but it's only possible if you know the species, which isn't the case for most corals. I suspect we'd end up with a lot of misidentified corals in the hobby if this became a widespread practice, and that would counteract the goal, by causing people to look up info on the wrong species. Maybe someday genetic testing will be cheaper/easier and could make this more feasible.
One of the best sources of info about reef keeping with corals is this podcast
thank you!
1:21:46 Acropora natalensis.
The restrictions for PAR number differences are mostly valid for corals under LEDs. Halides and T5s are more forgivable.
This channel is so great!
Thanks for the stream, Adam and Chris. Like #30! Love you guys!
I totally agree Alex,, thanks man!
This was awesome please get through the list with Chris, Adam I really like what you have going. Great job with the podcast!!🎉
Guys I absolutely love this type of video. Especially your opinions on how hard they are to keep and specifically any needs in our tanks.
I think Chris is 100% correct about not acclimating corals
My losses on new corals were always from messing around with dipping in a tub and not getting them into my clean tank asap
Great content
Amazing show!!!! I really enjoyed the presentation style and the expert knowledge from you two! Do you think you might publish a list of the acros and what you both rated them light, flow & difficulty? That would be huge for us hobbyists! Thanks guys!😊
Yes, I plan to do this!
@@fraggarage5922 That’s awesome Adam. I really enjoy your show!
Light acclimation is a must when you're importing wild specimens. Especially when running LED's in my experience anyway.
When is part 3 coming out?
man, they are so much work!! haha I'll bug Chris
@@fraggarage5922 Appreciate the hard work you and Chris have put into this. Ranking the difficulty of these Acropora has been one of the most useful learnings in my reefing journey. Knowing that some acros are easier than the others gives me confidence in getting started into SPS
@@stantan6130 that's awesome to hear! If you happen to go through them again for any reason and want to give me the timestamps, I will put those in so people can find each species quickly.. no pressure though! cheers :)
Thanks for doing this Adam, I wish I could order corals from you here in the states somehow!!!
Great show! Chris needs to buy a mic ASAP. 😅
Great stream. As always! I was so proud of myself for growing my pink Cadillac out into a colony and coloring it up nice, until it just got a 2 rating on the difficulty level🤣🤣. I’m just messing! Still proud🤣! Great stream
Hahah it's still not easy to pull optimal colour! You be proud 😊 haha
4:58 A. tenuis does exist and it is still found in the wild, and could be imported only from Fiji and Tonga. Not from Indonesia nor Australia. So Acropora bifaria is what we thought was A. tenuis from Indonesia, in the type locality of Java (followed studies need to establish its distribution) , and Acropora kenti is what we thought was A. tenuis from Australia. The name change was because accordingly to the genetic samples from Indonesia and Australia, we know now they are not the same as the "real" A. tenuis, originally reported from Fiji and Tonga. There were also considerable variations in gross morphology, which could also be attributed to environmental factors. Gotta LOVE ACROS!
thanks for the clarification Alex. Yes, this seems to be the case, according to several sources now. Go Fiji!
@@fraggarage5922 Go Fiji!!! Call Walt and grow some for me!
Looking forward to the next episode with Chris! Cheers!
Love this one and the whole podcast, thanks Adam for all you do. Has slowly turned into my favorite listens when it comes to reefing.
Love Chris but I can’t help but notice every podcast he’s on when speaking about light in relation to nutrients, it seems as if the entire hobby feels the exact opposite. Higher nutrients can handle more light as opposed to vice versa, what’s Chris seeing that no one else is😂😂
Love you guys . Uk
my favourite reefing podcast keep it up!! are you going to be dropping some merch? nice looking hat would definitely pick one up to support and rep the podcast!
I have had a couple requests so, yeah I may as well sell the shirts and hats? ;)
@@fraggarage5922 hell ya. Can mark me down for some.
Any idea what species the RR Robin Hood is? The colony that POTO has is stunning!!
Granulosa.. Will be in next episode ;)
Thank you
I have 3 Neptune Sky over a 200 gallon with 2 Kessils and I have a Radion XR 30 Pro G6 (also with a Kessil) over a 50 gallon, and I very much prefer the look of the tank with the Neptune Sky lights. On paper, they are basically the same light power-wise. They Sky just looks better imho. This is 2 brand new tanks with white rock and sand, no corals or fish. The Radion has a noisy disco effect compared to the Sky, and the Radion also costs more and I am probably going to have to buy a diffuser if I can't get used to the disco. It's really apparent to me because my tanks are only feet apart.
When your talking about par in the beginning, the peak numbers are great but how long are xyz coral getting xyz number? Is chris hitting them with 600 par for 12 hours 8? 4?
6hr max
my peak period is also 6 hrs.. I also still run T5 for 2 hours towards the beginning of the LED peak
@@fraggarage5922 if the only thing you changed was to lengthen the peak period (to say 7 or 8 hours), what changes would you expect to see with your sps?
@@joshv204 Well my understanding is that the photosynthesis in the zooxanthelea maxes out at about 4 hours, so in theory, I would guess that some of the coloration/protective pigments are produced outside of that window. I think the tolerance is different depending on the light source though. I used to run T5 for a peak period of 9 hours, but I wouldn't do that with LED. Another interesting idea would be running two photo periods in one day, 6 on, 6 off etc..
@@fraggarage5922 ok so if I’m understanding you, it’s possible you may get more color with a longer period but not any more growth.
Oooh the idea of alternating light periods so you get two a day is intriguing…
Dude, I gotta know how you get those colors outa the Walt Disney (video early on in the podcast)
Good trace and about 350-400 par. Lots of blue spectrum
@@fraggarage5922 Thank you
Acropora tenuis is still used, but only from where the original holotype was collected from which I believe was Fiji (dana 1846) and I believe the Acropora hyacinthus holotype was from Fiji too so that means these from Indo and Aus will get different names too……the most ridiculous name change at the moment is Turbibaria peltata changed to Duncanopsammia peltata…but leaves all other tubinarias still together…crazy.
Thanks, I appreciate the clarification!
natalensis is described from KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa.
it has never been in the aquarium trade.
Interesting.. well the Indo farms have been shipping natalensis for years, but that's probably just an approximation on their part..
Does anyone know why sps would turn green? All my parameters are fine. I feel like it’s a lighting or trace element issue. I have a red wing milli that’s turning green as well
Have you done an ICP recently? high iron levels can make they turn green. Especially yellow sps..
Did you make them angry?
Could be Iron or some other ellement or low par? Would do a ICP test to check.
Part 2?
Workin on it!!
It has already come to my attention that 'Vivid Insanity' is acropora striata, not bifaria!
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Meckley!!!!!!
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Now if I could only figure out how to keep my Acros from turning into brown turds.
Chris seems to indicate that whites are very important
This seems counter to the common mantra that corals use blues and whites are a waste of
What’s the real answer? I run my whites at about half the % of my blues - I also prefer that look greatly over the higher white look
It's hard to say for sure.. Although most of the corals we keep spend a lot of their time each day in 'bluer' depths of water, I think LED spectrums of a blue are a pretty 'tight' band, at a specific nanometer, unlike the blue spectrum produced by halides and LED.. That said, I still think blues in the LED spectrum help with colouration and growth. It would be interesting to see someone try growing acros under just whites for a while, with the blues at 0% (if they can tolerate looking at their tank in the meantime haha).
I love hearing Chris speak - but it was a little bit of a disappointment. Most people in the hobby aren't into acros and it would have been more interested hearing about lps. Either way good video - if you're into sps. ;) Keep up the great guests and next time less sps.
This is only the first part of the series! the 3rd will cover LPS and softies ;)… I disagree that SPS aren’t popular lately though!!
Even if your statistics were true about the total in the hobby, most people who watch videos like these are into sps, plus they are significantly more difficult to keep long term than your typical lps or softy therefor it makes sense theres more talk about how to keep them.