I loved the way at the 7:05 mark the guy just pulled right up to the dump wagon. It seems in other videos I have seen they take about 30 seconds to get into position to dump.
I did custom chopping for dairy and beef farms with a 4440, 3970 and Richardton 700 wagon and used the same Richardton (Balzer) dump table. Our Richardton was one of five wagon in the country at that time with Weigh-Tronix scales on it. I had both a 2 row and 3 row head on that chopper and sure would’ve loved that Dion! We made a hitch on the dump table and pulled it alongside a Kelly Ryan Ag bagger so we could use dump trucks to fill bags. It was a little precarious, but we were trying to get away from trucks with forage boxes on them at the time.
Grew up on a farm. I've seen chopping and corn and alfalfa are still chopped on our farm for the local dairy farms. But I'd never seen a silage table, around here it goes in bunkers. Thank you.
The silage table was a popular option in the 1980’s as farms moved to trucks from forage wagons and before large silage blades were available for pushing large amounts of silage in a bunk.
We used dump wagons and never wasted much and always loaded trucks evenly. One dump cart would load in the left front and other dump wagon rear right, but this seems like a much smaller operation.
Awesome video we just got our haylauge all done we have a 300 utility international tractor on our 1540 gehl vortex silage blower we also have another gehl 1540 but we used our ford 7740 SL on it we cut and haul wagons with our Case Jx95 and we chop with our 826 international gear drive
At least on the 70 footer, u would hit the ground in less time, if u fell...shorter scream! 90 footer u would be deader, so there's advantages to both!!!!! lol
@@gregkortbein5108 No, the sudden stop only causes your bones to break and pierce all your organs. What actually kills you is massive internal bleeding a time after the impact, unless you get lucky and break your neck right away. But yeah, there's 1001 ways to bite the dust and falling is not one of the nicer ones.
Here is something I always wanted to say about silos. The ladders on the old cement silos gotta be the most unsafe imaginable. The small narrow steel steps that are not even flat, no side bars to help you climb and no safety apparatus in case you slipped or something. I never owned a silo but I always thought silo climbing steps to be the poorest form of safety. Maybe the new ones are better--I dont know. Some of the guys reading this will likely think I am chicken. Fine with me.
@@joakrage3972 Thanks for your reply. I still think that the best idea would be some type of enclosed, small structure--an idea like an apartment elevator, for lack of a better description to safely rise up and down on a tower silo. I know, and I will be booed at by a lot of guys because such an idea is too much money. To hell with the cost. A person's life comes first. If we put money ahead of a man's health, safety, and life, then that is an AntiChrist. P.S. I am no church goer.
@@brianzybura8633 I think personally I would just be happy to put a chute over the ladder same as the one the feed comes down maybe some landings so the ladder only has that you can fall maybe 15'-20' max at a time
@@brianzybura8633 I actually have more of a problem with bunker silos since you need to drive a tractor right up close to the edge of the pile and if it just has too much of a dip on the side the tractor can suddenly roll of the pile often killing the occupant of the tractor I'm still trying to figure out how to fix that sayfty hazard
the farm I used to help on used a dump wagon to dump into trucks, we figured it replaced one truck to have the wagon. Before they got a grain cart we would take the top off the silage wagon and chase the combine with it.
We use a 4960 to pull are fp240 and a 3155 pulling a new Holland 790. We have 2 Single axle dump trucks dumping the the silo and we pack with a 4050 and a 6125r with a lowder and some times a 6420
We use a John Deere 4630 with hydraulic front wheel assist in an international two-row chopper a badger silage wagon and international and a H&S and a John Deere 6210 to draw the wagons we just got it is 2-wheel drive and we use a international 786 on a gehl blower as well as the only to that was ever bought new on our a international 544 to bring the wagons of next to the blower because the 6210 will not fit
They remove silage from top down rather than the bottom. They have an auger at the top that goes around a circle. At the center of the auger is a blower that blows the silage just like the forager to a shoot. Just google it. 😀
Yes there is waste but here in Colorado an addition silage truck driver would cost you $14.26 an hour and several thousand dollars in repairs per season. It’s a trade off - spilling a little is probably preferable to another truck and driver
My Dad would not have been happy if we left that much on the ground... In fact I am sure we would have had a shovel on board just in case that happened.
Now that's the way to put up silage! Uses one wagon, 2 trucks and no expensive chopper. There are a couple things really great about their method. The trucks aren't spending time in the field being loaded and they don't spend a lot of time unloading or waiting to unload. Great video Jason. Always seems to be more efficient.
What happens if you feed too much into the silo blower? Does it choke and the entire 90 feet worth of blown stuff comes down again, spilling out the front and clogging your pipe until you shovel it away? That sounds decidedly not fun! Is there a way to tell if you can feed it more or if it's at capacity and any more would make you unhappy?
The blower has allot of power from the tractor. There is always a chance the pipe could plug but the silage is just feeding in at a steady rate so plugging is not an issue.
Great video I looked and thought nice Tractors shame about trailers until could see what they could do. You don't see many those choppers here in England may be somewhere on RUclips!
Here in Germany we harvest our maize with a claas jaguar 960 and drive this with tractors and loading waggons into bunker Silos . The System how we see into your Video we dont take it for maize, some farmers take her moving hay in this silos when there is no place for bales .
You run over a couple rows laying it down one way. You then turn around and come back the other way. There winds up being very little waste. I did a lot of it over the years.
The Harvestore will be air tight. No packing, no plastic cover, Less spoilage and you can put different cuttings in and not have to take a cover off. Cons: the unloader service is costly, not a very fast unloading system and limited on how much you can store. Bunkers can do thousands of tons of silage and feed out a lot faster.
Mr Magnum has a good summary. One other advantage of a silo is vertical storage. In places like eastern Pennsylvania where land is $25,000 an acre a large bunk takes up valuable growing space. The silo has a small foot print and lots of storage.
Cool video, One nice thing bout silage is atleast farmers can get away with foragery and not get in trouble from the law if you get my pun
Now there is a pun. 😂
You're so lucky getting around all of these different farms. What a job!
I loved the way at the 7:05 mark the guy just pulled right up to the dump wagon. It seems in other videos I have seen they take about 30 seconds to get into position to dump.
I did custom chopping for dairy and beef farms with a 4440, 3970 and Richardton 700 wagon and used the same Richardton (Balzer) dump table. Our Richardton was one of five wagon in the country at that time with Weigh-Tronix scales on it. I had both a 2 row and 3 row head on that chopper and sure would’ve loved that Dion! We made a hitch on the dump table and pulled it alongside a Kelly Ryan Ag bagger so we could use dump trucks to fill bags. It was a little precarious, but we were trying to get away from trucks with forage boxes on them at the time.
Very cool chopping set up. Thank you for sharing.
Wonderful video
Ahhh. Can smell the silage from here.
A smell you never forget
Dion head looks like it does a great job!We run a claas 860 and 880 6 row and 8 row headers
I love the smell of corn silage👍😁
Looking forward to see more chopping videos👍😉
Great video again👍
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Yes sir ,Johnny Deere 3950 harvester
Very cool. What tractor do you run your 3950 with?
bigtractorpower Massey Ferguson 4263
Grew up on a farm. I've seen chopping and corn and alfalfa are still chopped on our farm for the local dairy farms. But I'd never seen a silage table, around here it goes in bunkers. Thank you.
The silage table was a popular option in the 1980’s as farms moved to trucks from forage wagons and before large silage blades were available for pushing large amounts of silage in a bunk.
Amazing wagon and silage unloading/ feeding devices.
Appears very efficient and productive as a system to harvest corn silage.
Great Video BTP, in NZ there are very few towers left, most maize silage is stored in bunkers or pit. thanks for sharing
Silos are becoming rare here but are still used in some areas where land is at a premium.
Thanks for the video very good
Thanks for this cool silage video BTP! No such thing as a bad corn silage video
Remember them days 🚜🚜🚜🚜👍
We use a John Deere 7210R tractor to pull a Newholland FP230 forage harvester and Miller Pro 9015 high dump wagon
We use the New Holland Forage Crusier and both pits and silos.
Very cool. I like New Holland choppers. I was excited to feature a classic 1900 Whooper Chopper a few weeks ago.
Seems like a lot of waste doing it this way.
It really isnt cuz you are always chopping instead of waiting on a truck to chop
We used dump wagons and never wasted much and always loaded trucks evenly. One dump cart would load in the left front and other dump wagon rear right, but this seems like a much smaller operation.
@@Frankie431 well the trucks look like they are 20' or so dump bodies
It just looks like it. Really maybe only 5 or 10 lbs spill per dump just looks bad because it spreads out
This a pretty cool video about corn silage and about a harvestore silo and is this on a beef cattle operation.
Love it
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Awesome video we just got our haylauge all done we have a 300 utility international tractor on our 1540 gehl vortex silage blower we also have another gehl 1540 but we used our ford 7740 SL on it we cut and haul wagons with our Case Jx95 and we chop with our 826 international gear drive
Very nice forage team. Thank you for sharing.
Except for the Case those are all old-time pieces of equipment. Great stuff in their day and still holding up!
Awesome Video!!
Thank you for watching.
Deer is the boss until Case comes
Strange technic. I´ve never seen such an dump trailer here in bavaria/germany. Greets Thomas
Yeah very inefficient
@@ML-lg4ky I wouldn't say inefficient. It saves one truck and driver but the way of overloading isn't the best. Greets Thomas
Going north on 65 today I saw some chopping past the Sonora exit ,or was bout to chop,great video 👍👍🤠
Where the choppers Krone self propelled models?
I was to far off to tell
Awesome RUclips farming videos!!👍👍Thanks Jason....BTP!!💪💪
Man climbing a 70 foot was bad enough let alone a 90 footer
At least on the 70 footer, u would hit the ground in less time, if u fell...shorter scream! 90 footer u would be deader, so there's advantages to both!!!!! lol
Atomicwedgie81 It’s not the fall that kills you. It’s the sudden stop at the end.
@@gregkortbein5108 No, the sudden stop only causes your bones to break and pierce all your organs. What actually kills you is massive internal bleeding a time after the impact, unless you get lucky and break your neck right away. But yeah, there's 1001 ways to bite the dust and falling is not one of the nicer ones.
This was an interesting video thank you
If it ain't green... It ain't mean
If it ain’t red, leave it in the shed
@@MrMagnum7220... I guess we will have to agree to disagree
Hehe
In southeast Iowa we bag silage with an Agbagger 3 20 ft wagons new holland fp 230 with new holland 8870 and a new holland 1900
Are those kind of pulled forage harvesters still being built?
Yes, but I do believe there selling less of them than in the past
John Deere, New Holland, and Dion were still making pull types a couple years ago.
Good video
Here is something I always wanted to say about silos. The ladders on the old cement silos gotta be the most unsafe imaginable. The small narrow steel steps that are not even flat, no side bars to help you climb and no safety apparatus in case you slipped or something. I never owned a silo but I always thought silo climbing steps to be the poorest form of safety. Maybe the new ones are better--I dont know. Some of the guys reading this will likely think I am chicken. Fine with me.
The new ones are definitely better I also wouldn't consider climbing the older ones
@@joakrage3972 Thanks for your reply. I still think that the best idea would be some type of enclosed, small structure--an idea like an apartment elevator, for lack of a better description to safely rise up and down on a tower silo. I know, and I will be booed at by a lot of guys because such an idea is too much money. To hell with the cost. A person's life comes first. If we put money ahead of a man's health, safety, and life, then that is an AntiChrist. P.S. I am no church goer.
@@brianzybura8633 I think personally I would just be happy to put a chute over the ladder same as the one the feed comes down maybe some landings so the ladder only has that you can fall maybe 15'-20' max at a time
@@brianzybura8633 I actually have more of a problem with bunker silos since you need to drive a tractor right up close to the edge of the pile and if it just has too much of a dip on the side the tractor can suddenly roll of the pile often killing the occupant of the tractor I'm still trying to figure out how to fix that sayfty hazard
@@joakrage3972 You have a good idea.
That chops and clean's up the field. 👍👍 good video !!
the farm I used to help on used a dump wagon to dump into trucks, we figured it replaced one truck to have the wagon. Before they got a grain cart we would take the top off the silage wagon and chase the combine with it.
We use a 4960 to pull are fp240 and a 3155 pulling a new Holland 790. We have 2 Single axle dump trucks dumping the the silo and we pack with a 4050 and a 6125r with a lowder and some times a 6420
Very nice chopping set up. Thank you for sharing.
We use a John Deere 4630 with hydraulic front wheel assist in an international two-row chopper a badger silage wagon and international and a H&S and a John Deere 6210 to draw the wagons we just got it is 2-wheel drive and we use a international 786 on a gehl blower as well as the only to that was ever bought new on our a international 544 to bring the wagons of next to the blower because the 6210 will not fit
That is an awesome line up. That’s kind of chopping I would like to film for the channel. Thank you for sharing.
@@bigtractorpower corn silage we have the head for hay but we don't really
Yes we do chop corn we pack pit not put it in a silo we have a a chopper like that
Hi BTP we chop corn with a Claas Jaguar . Farms do not use these silos here. How do they feed cattle from them? 👍🇵🇹🇵🇹
They remove silage from top down rather than the bottom. They have an auger at the top that goes around a circle. At the center of the auger is a blower that blows the silage just like the forager to a shoot. Just google it. 😀
It looks like there’s an awful lot of waste with the dumb wagon. There was enough waste on the first dump to feed a couple of cows for a day.
Yes there is waste but here in Colorado an addition silage truck driver would cost you $14.26 an hour and several thousand dollars in repairs per season. It’s a trade off - spilling a little is probably preferable to another truck and driver
Still some left over in wagon even after dumping...
My Dad would not have been happy if we left that much on the ground... In fact I am sure we would have had a shovel on board just in case that happened.
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That seems like a lot of field compaction to deal with in planting season.
Now that's the way to put up silage! Uses one wagon, 2 trucks and no expensive chopper. There are a couple things really great about their method. The trucks aren't spending time in the field being loaded and they don't spend a lot of time unloading or waiting to unload. Great video Jason. Always seems to be more efficient.
What happens if you feed too much into the silo blower? Does it choke and the entire 90 feet worth of blown stuff comes down again, spilling out the front and clogging your pipe until you shovel it away? That sounds decidedly not fun! Is there a way to tell if you can feed it more or if it's at capacity and any more would make you unhappy?
The blower has allot of power from the tractor. There is always a chance the pipe could plug but the silage is just feeding in at a steady rate so plugging is not an issue.
@@bigtractorpower Thank you :)
Yes you plug up the blower. It happens.
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Are there pros/cons of using a harvestore instead of open bunker?
Harvestore you don't have to worry about not getting some in the pit
Wonder if that grain equipment and silos was theirs
Yes it’s is.
@@bigtractorpower they must do more grain then silage
We pulled a 3970 that had a three row head with a John Deere 4850 in 20-30 ton/acre corn and could never get ground speeds like that. Impressive
That’ll save you a solid $500k vs buying a forage harvester.
What was the head on the chopper?
I thought it looked like a dion 3 row rotary head
Great video I looked and thought nice Tractors shame about trailers until could see what they could do. You don't see many those choppers here in England may be somewhere on RUclips!
Seems like a slow process 😕
It’s a steady process for a pull type.
Here in Germany we harvest our maize with a claas jaguar 960 and drive this with tractors and loading waggons into bunker Silos . The System how we see into your Video we dont take it for maize, some farmers take her moving hay in this silos when there is no place for bales .
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Hey there ☺️ how do they open a field with that kind of chopper without running over the corn? ☺️ Thx for great videos man All ways a plesuer 👍👍👍💪💪💪💪
You run over a couple rows laying it down one way. You then turn around and come back the other way. There winds up being very little waste. I did a lot of it over the years.
Okay thank you allways wandre how nerver seen those at Work only selfpropelled ☺️☺️💪💪
Are there pros/cons of using a harvestore instead of open bunker?
The Harvestore will be air tight. No packing, no plastic cover, Less spoilage and you can put different cuttings in and not have to take a cover off. Cons: the unloader service is costly, not a very fast unloading system and limited on how much you can store. Bunkers can do thousands of tons of silage and feed out a lot faster.
@@MrMagnum7220 Thanks sir!
Mr Magnum has a good summary. One other advantage of a silo is vertical storage. In places like eastern Pennsylvania where land is $25,000 an acre a large bunk takes up valuable growing space. The silo has a small foot print and lots of storage.