I think the problem with nuxia is that she has a sort of "anti-unblockable" or "reverse unblockable", because her trap like an inminent and unstopable attack if you block, parry or stand still, but you can counter it with EVERYTHING ELSE you can do, even emoting, its like a less conventional unblockable but its a worse version of one, such an inneficient yet strange mechanic
As a former Hito main, yea good luck at high level witg no opener against people like Real. Even in your chain(faint on orange) u still have tk make so many reads (getting lighted out, bashed out, dodge recovery etc) As a current kensei main. I would give him a solid high B/low A tier. I would switch some things about him 1)better recovery on dodge heby to block 2)more unreactable ub 3)soft faint to side light from ub to be 400ms 4)All his soft faints to have hyperarmor in general 5)This is annoying. Lets say u have frame advantage. If u go for palm strike u can still get guard broken which is bs. Other than me ranting, tier list is spot on. Love you real! Also congratulations on your latest win against that very good shaolin on Waloosh's channel❤️❤️❤️
I really love nobu , shes is one of the coolest character in the game to me and it just hurts that how weak she is but i dont care she will be my main for ever shes just so elegant and graceful man . keep it up man hope your having a nice day
its crazy how nobushi has been low tier literally the entire time this game has existed, feel like devs forgot she existed. Sad because its the only character i played with any regularity
Idk what I'm doing here if got like 15h max in this game lol I might look at S and A tier heroes and pick somebody I like to learn/get good (raider, warden, BP, ocelotl or the hammer guy that won't stop screaming) Great vid dou. Even a newbie like me could understand most of what u said
I like this tierlist. And your points about Nuxia are spot on, although I personally would place her at a high B. I've even debunked the whole "Nuxia being S-tier in duels". I've said the exact same thing and it's her traps having far too many option selects that counter it. The problem with the traps weren't exactly tackled. Sure the input is a lot quicker to make it borderline unreactable. But its mainly aimed towards a lot of turtling.
Nuxia was S tier in duels at that time, you didn't debunk anything since u gave no real reasoning behind why she wasn't S tier and showed nothing, all you did was say everyone else was delusional, would have been nice to have an actual discussion with you but instead you just attack every1 who disagrees with you
@@HavokYT Bro, I made many valid points in my video that many have taken agreement on. I'm not going to piggyback ride every other top player like you clearly do. Here's some advice, stop being a shadow that attempts harsher criticism whether it'd be my channel or anyone else's. You attempt to act all civilized on your own channel, you're acting like a two-faced mole rat.
@suji4540 Piggyback top players? I'm friends with bean and he just so happens to be 1 of the best duelist in the game if not the best, and I'd rather collab and seek advice from top players to get correct information out to people using my platform that I've build myself from the ground up, rather than spread misinformation, another dumb and aggressive comment, everyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong, that's the kind of person you are, at least I'm open to discuss with others tho, some advice for you, stop going around claiming ur "the nuxia god" when u can't even beat an average player in BNB, make urself look silly
@@HavokYT Me and Bean talk too from time to time broski. There was nothing aggressive about my comment. I'm calling it like it is and energy you give off. I don't know how much more clear I can be when I say there can be disagreements. I have scratched and clawed to known amongst the community. And with the BNB. I'm a full time dad, I only just put a baby to sleep and zero warm-up or prep time for it. 10-7 isn't even a bad difference especially against a top 20 duelist. given that I had no time to prep. Get over yourself. My community calls me the "Nuxia god". That's the name I was given by other people. I just use it as a meme. I'd rather think for myself and have free-will thinking rather than dickride top players. I know where my skills are. You don't know me as a player at all. It all blew way out of proportion when I have my reasoning as to why Nuxia wasn't an S-tier duelist and you had a power-trip because of it.
@suji4540 So then why were u so aggressive about the tierlist in the first place? You basically made the vid and call others delusional and yes men, you were the one that made it hostile in the first place, when we do these tierlists bean also seeks input from other top players too, like I said dude all I want to do is spread good info to the casual audience on my platform, I'm not a top player anymore I don't put that kind of time in now unlike 2017/18, I'm just casual and I always say that, so for me to put out my own tierlist would be pointless, just confused as to why you attacked it in the first place dude, and again, I'm not sure why u need to call me piggy back or D***rider, imagine thinking that me of all people need to do that at this point.. and then u come to my channel again cos I said nuxia is A tier currently and said I got people from my back pocket to go comment on ur vid and like my comment which is again just weird, like I need to do stuff like that
Every reaction based player doesn't like the bashes change, which i think is one of the best thing Ubi did in the last 2 years, can someone give me a reason that isn't "i trained to be annoying and nullify mix-ups and now i can't do it anymore"?
another thing freeze mentioned is because there’s perfect ganks that exists whcih are set up by bashes. Before, top players can at least try to avoid a setup and stall, but now 2v1 will almost certainly end within seconds due to no one being able to react to bash changes. The issue is not the bash but the perfect ganks as freeze mentioned but this might also be why reaction based (pro/scrimmage) player doesn’t really like the bash changes.
so trying to learn the game and improve your reflexes ingame is being annoying? so you think they had to make an update that would make it easier for you to win because you just want wins? At least if we ignore that these bash changes made some bash characters even worse now and some of them you can just early dodge to avoid the bash and the GB which is horrible and some characters just got bashes that are way too strong now which just creates a bigger gap in the tierlist. The game is even more unbalanced now and i don't think u can argue that and i don't know how that can be better for or healthier the game. And i don't know why you act like reaction based players could react to bashes on orange the entire time because you could really delay your bash or you could do a forward dodge heavy with some of the characters and you can't differ that from a bash.
@@silverbashspam9701 yea the blanket changes have some issues of their own, but they don’t train for reflexes, they are born with the reactions+30% of reading animations.
Idk if you want feedback for your video but id say not bad on the tier list. However i would recommend that when your ranking character that you talk more about there kit in depth. Like more in detail about were they're lacking and where they perform the best. Giving people scenario's will help them understand what your talking about.
Personally disagree with Afeera not being S considering how safe her offense is along with having some of the highest damage punishes in the game. I personally think she's very much overtuned not just in duels but heavily in dom as well. However, I don't think she's better than Shinobi, Tiandi or Medjay in duels.
So sad glad made bottom, but it's understandable. If you play against someone with good reads you're screwed. If you're bad at mixups glad is terrible, but if you're super good at deflects, parrying, and can capitalize on his punishes you should win.
It’s soo easy to differ his UB’s , and I play console on tv. I can only imagine on opt PC/monitor setup. GL landing an UB light. Also garbanzo dodge attack😪. Personally tho, I think he’s decent on console, if played correctly. Address the animations UBi🙏
I think its all in all solid Tier list but I think you lost some points on some heros like Shugo bc he is just a better version of Warlord but i think he is C tier
Not really but without it all he has are defensive tools. WL variable timed HB was hard for pretty much every comp player due to its animation having no start up making it harder to react to. So without a good unreactable opener all he can do is just turtle.
A good Centurion is unbeatable imo. He has everything and he can feint every god damn move in any second he wants. Such a bullshit character. Only psies plays him xD
Warmonger feels like ass. 0 openers and I don't even think she gets an undodgable that isn't her insanely slow dodge top heavy so people can just dodge bash and attack. So you have to cancel and hope to parry putting you in her shit neutral again. How is she a tier?
I'm confused, if you can react to berserker? So you react better than toet, Barak, Clutch, Normie, blitss? These players indeed have trouble with berserker. I guess it comes down to being predictable like many things in this game. An unpredictable berserker who fully utilizes deflect, dodge light OS is not an easy opponent, in fact the character is quite strong. You are a formidable player and I enjoyed this list.
If you come against someone that can react (like me) gladiator is useless because you can dodge his toe stab and zone on reaction. Also, he has the easiest unblockable to react to in the game.
i mean, it would have been better to say 'i base this tier list solely on how i can play with this character" lol because the number one duel player in this game plays lawbro.. hes defs s tier
If LB was S tier you'd see him winning duel tournies or being banned from them and that isn't the case. The best duelists in the world don't place LB higher than C tier. Remember time played=/=skill.
@@stygs6 Again time played=/=skill. Just because you've played the game for thousands of hours does not mean you are the best. So it literally means nothing. Also who are you even calling the number 1 duelist?
Me wanting to hear why so and so was placed somewhere.
Proceeds to talk about a whole different character when ranking someone
After watching the video back I agree. I’m gonna try to make a detailed, uncut tier list this weekend.
Interesting list, i like it, i agree with a lot of the placements, i like how these patches shake things up sometimes
I’d love to see you do a video on ocelotyl. Most people think he’s bad in duels and I’d like to see how you’d handle using him
I think the problem with nuxia is that she has a sort of "anti-unblockable" or "reverse unblockable", because her trap like an inminent and unstopable attack if you block, parry or stand still, but you can counter it with EVERYTHING ELSE you can do, even emoting, its like a less conventional unblockable but its a worse version of one, such an inneficient yet strange mechanic
As a former Hito main, yea good luck at high level witg no opener against people like Real.
Even in your chain(faint on orange) u still have tk make so many reads (getting lighted out, bashed out, dodge recovery etc)
As a current kensei main. I would give him a solid high B/low A tier.
I would switch some things about him
1)better recovery on dodge heby to block
2)more unreactable ub
3)soft faint to side light from ub to be 400ms
4)All his soft faints to have hyperarmor in general
5)This is annoying. Lets say u have frame advantage.
If u go for palm strike u can still get guard broken which is bs.
Other than me ranting, tier list is spot on. Love you real! Also congratulations on your latest win against that very good shaolin on Waloosh's channel❤️❤️❤️
Enhanced helm splitter would a great touch up but I also agree getting Gb’d out of pommel strike sucks
Lol dudeman's like, "yeah everyone else places this person way higher, but if you're good like me then no big deal."
I really love nobu , shes is one of the coolest character in the game to me and it just hurts that how weak she is but i dont care she will be my main for ever shes just so elegant and graceful man . keep it up man hope your having a nice day
W shadow fight pfp
What if cent had tracking on his full charge
That'd be painful
@@SlyAlex09Nah. He would actually be balanced.
its crazy how nobushi has been low tier literally the entire time this game has existed, feel like devs forgot she existed. Sad because its the only character i played with any regularity
Idk what I'm doing here if got like 15h max in this game lol
I might look at S and A tier heroes and pick somebody I like to learn/get good (raider, warden, BP, ocelotl or the hammer guy that won't stop screaming)
Great vid dou. Even a newbie like me could understand most of what u said
I like this tierlist. And your points about Nuxia are spot on, although I personally would place her at a high B. I've even debunked the whole "Nuxia being S-tier in duels". I've said the exact same thing and it's her traps having far too many option selects that counter it. The problem with the traps weren't exactly tackled. Sure the input is a lot quicker to make it borderline unreactable. But its mainly aimed towards a lot of turtling.
Nuxia was S tier in duels at that time, you didn't debunk anything since u gave no real reasoning behind why she wasn't S tier and showed nothing, all you did was say everyone else was delusional, would have been nice to have an actual discussion with you but instead you just attack every1 who disagrees with you
@@HavokYT Bro, I made many valid points in my video that many have taken agreement on. I'm not going to piggyback ride every other top player like you clearly do. Here's some advice, stop being a shadow that attempts harsher criticism whether it'd be my channel or anyone else's. You attempt to act all civilized on your own channel, you're acting like a two-faced mole rat.
@suji4540 Piggyback top players? I'm friends with bean and he just so happens to be 1 of the best duelist in the game if not the best, and I'd rather collab and seek advice from top players to get correct information out to people using my platform that I've build myself from the ground up, rather than spread misinformation, another dumb and aggressive comment, everyone that doesn't agree with you is wrong, that's the kind of person you are, at least I'm open to discuss with others tho, some advice for you, stop going around claiming ur "the nuxia god" when u can't even beat an average player in BNB, make urself look silly
@@HavokYT Me and Bean talk too from time to time broski. There was nothing aggressive about my comment. I'm calling it like it is and energy you give off. I don't know how much more clear I can be when I say there can be disagreements. I have scratched and clawed to known amongst the community. And with the BNB. I'm a full time dad, I only just put a baby to sleep and zero warm-up or prep time for it. 10-7 isn't even a bad difference especially against a top 20 duelist. given that I had no time to prep. Get over yourself. My community calls me the "Nuxia god". That's the name I was given by other people. I just use it as a meme. I'd rather think for myself and have free-will thinking rather than dickride top players. I know where my skills are. You don't know me as a player at all. It all blew way out of proportion when I have my reasoning as to why Nuxia wasn't an S-tier duelist and you had a power-trip because of it.
@suji4540 So then why were u so aggressive about the tierlist in the first place? You basically made the vid and call others delusional and yes men, you were the one that made it hostile in the first place, when we do these tierlists bean also seeks input from other top players too, like I said dude all I want to do is spread good info to the casual audience on my platform, I'm not a top player anymore I don't put that kind of time in now unlike 2017/18, I'm just casual and I always say that, so for me to put out my own tierlist would be pointless, just confused as to why you attacked it in the first place dude, and again, I'm not sure why u need to call me piggy back or D***rider, imagine thinking that me of all people need to do that at this point.. and then u come to my channel again cos I said nuxia is A tier currently and said I got people from my back pocket to go comment on ur vid and like my comment which is again just weird, like I need to do stuff like that
I 100% agree with this list except you calling pirate a man lol
Wdym pirate is a man
Every reaction based player doesn't like the bashes change, which i think is one of the best thing Ubi did in the last 2 years, can someone give me a reason that isn't "i trained to be annoying and nullify mix-ups and now i can't do it anymore"?
Besides medjay and shinobi i dont have a problem with it really
Can't even really say they trained. It's about 70% genetics.
another thing freeze mentioned is because there’s perfect ganks that exists whcih are set up by bashes. Before, top players can at least try to avoid a setup and stall, but now 2v1 will almost certainly end within seconds due to no one being able to react to bash changes. The issue is not the bash but the perfect ganks as freeze mentioned but this might also be why reaction based (pro/scrimmage) player doesn’t really like the bash changes.
so trying to learn the game and improve your reflexes ingame is being annoying? so you think they had to make an update that would make it easier for you to win because you just want wins? At least if we ignore that these bash changes made some bash characters even worse now and some of them you can just early dodge to avoid the bash and the GB which is horrible and some characters just got bashes that are way too strong now which just creates a bigger gap in the tierlist. The game is even more unbalanced now and i don't think u can argue that and i don't know how that can be better for or healthier the game. And i don't know why you act like reaction based players could react to bashes on orange the entire time because you could really delay your bash or you could do a forward dodge heavy with some of the characters and you can't differ that from a bash.
@@silverbashspam9701 yea the blanket changes have some issues of their own, but they don’t train for reflexes, they are born with the reactions+30% of reading animations.
That is a beautiful bell curve except for the tiandi, medjay and d tiers of course
DEFINITELY buffs and nerfs all across but that is a really good distribution
Idk if you want feedback for your video but id say not bad on the tier list. However i would recommend that when your ranking character that you talk more about there kit in depth. Like more in detail about were they're lacking and where they perform the best. Giving people scenario's will help them understand what your talking about.
Most op hero is this dude “on a good day”
Finally someone that doesn’t put nuxia on s tier there are just too many ways to option select her traps
W vid
Honestly I’d love to see some Kyo gameplay
Personally disagree with Afeera not being S considering how safe her offense is along with having some of the highest damage punishes in the game. I personally think she's very much overtuned not just in duels but heavily in dom as well. However, I don't think she's better than Shinobi, Tiandi or Medjay in duels.
What does it mean to “one time” something?
to nut in it i believe
Defeat the mixup with one dodge timing. Doesn't beat everything but allows you to both dodge the UB and counter GB in time
Putting gladiator at D tier is a L fucking take lmao he’s high A if not S tier lol
Nope he's extremely reactable
Kyoshin is the aramusha rework he needed
Hum hum hum hum hum
Warlord c tier is unbelievable
I hit the like when he said nerf shaolin
So sad glad made bottom, but it's understandable. If you play against someone with good reads you're screwed. If you're bad at mixups glad is terrible, but if you're super good at deflects, parrying, and can capitalize on his punishes you should win.
Can someone explain to me how glad is reactable? And why he is in D. I am newer to the game and don't understand how to counter him)
Really likeable dude. :) like and subscribe is done. Hope you're doing great.
What neutral pressure does ocelotl have?
WE LOVE YOU REALLLL❤️❤️
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Speaking of JJ being barely C Tier. You have no Jj gameplay! Realyx! Please get some asap!
Maybe I’m just ADHD, but the music is a bit too loud and it’s sometimes distracting. Good tier list though.
Nice list. I respec it. Zhan gotta be lower tho, trash garbonzovich char.
Grinding for that cool skin?
Zhanhus terrorize me as of late 😂
It’s soo easy to differ his UB’s , and I play console on tv. I can only imagine on opt PC/monitor setup. GL landing an UB light. Also garbanzo dodge attack😪. Personally tho, I think he’s decent on console, if played correctly. Address the animations UBi🙏
Good video overall but it feels like you're trying to beat us to death with ums there's got to be 100 in this video
Warden in S is crazy btw
Give Nobu side undogdeables and top unblock heavy finishers
aramusha b tier is crazy
I think its all in all solid Tier list but I think you lost some points on some heros like Shugo bc he is just a better version of Warlord but i think he is C tier
I'm confused on why warlord is C tier. Is headbutt really all he has?
Not really but without it all he has are defensive tools. WL variable timed HB was hard for pretty much every comp player due to its animation having no start up making it harder to react to. So without a good unreactable opener all he can do is just turtle.
Real when you streaming again?
How is Afeera reactable? what am I hearing?
Personally I don’t think to much or warden he’s too basic and every warden I’ve come across I’ve absolutely shit on them lmao
Great video but I thought it was against your noob friend?
Tried to make it happen but I didn't wanna wait any longer haha
A good Centurion is unbeatable imo. He has everything and he can feint every god damn move in any second he wants. Such a bullshit character. Only psies plays him xD
Skill issue
@@user-xw3wg9ov5t yeah skill issue for a 10 mmr garbage loser like you ignorant c*nt xD
Skill issue
Warmonger feels like ass. 0 openers and I don't even think she gets an undodgable that isn't her insanely slow dodge top heavy so people can just dodge bash and attack. So you have to cancel and hope to parry putting you in her shit neutral again. How is she a tier?
Warmonger unndogable overhead heavy is an opener
I'm confused, if you can react to berserker? So you react better than toet, Barak, Clutch, Normie, blitss? These players indeed have trouble with berserker. I guess it comes down to being predictable like many things in this game. An unpredictable berserker who fully utilizes deflect, dodge light OS is not an easy opponent, in fact the character is quite strong. You are a formidable player and I enjoyed this list.
If I'm reacting well then I will do well against a zerk, but at the same time in the right hands he's a demon
Funnily enough whether they can react to a bezerker or not most of them don't have Zerker higher than B, most have him C tier actually lol.
17:01 love this nuxia drip
It’s just the death by metal stuff
@@Rayen0182 Event gear ?
@@invisibleknight2890 yes
Can someone explain how gladiator is d tier I'm still new and I thought that charecter was cracked.
He isnt hes atleast b or low a
If you come against someone that can react (like me) gladiator is useless because you can dodge his toe stab and zone on reaction. Also, he has the easiest unblockable to react to in the game.
@@Realyxqjc2 thank you that makes a lot more sense I have bad reactions so I go for more reeds and this hero is hard to read at a low level of play.
I just wanna play The game without getting stared at, but nobody likes fun on my mmr
AFEERA IS NOT S TIER LMFAO
i mean, it would have been better to say 'i base this tier list solely on how i can play with this character" lol because the number one duel player in this game plays lawbro.. hes defs s tier
If LB was S tier you'd see him winning duel tournies or being banned from them and that isn't the case. The best duelists in the world don't place LB higher than C tier. Remember time played=/=skill.
@@brothatscrazy3418 well the number one duelist playing LB goes to say something lol
@@stygs6 Again time played=/=skill. Just because you've played the game for thousands of hours does not mean you are the best. So it literally means nothing. Also who are you even calling the number 1 duelist?