Is this still an issue that it does not work? I'm looking at getting some glass break sensors and want to add them but not if they don't alarm. Great easy video to follow.
Yes and no. In fact, not much has changed but the uploader of this video missed something. You can actually make the sensor sound the alarm by going to mode settings under your sensor.
That was actually important part. Because if you use one of the sensors and it doesn’t actually help you protect the home, then it’s rather useless. I will give it a try. Thank you again.
Have you added other z-wave devices? I'm particularly interested in plugs and switches with energy monitoring capabilities. Does Ring Alarm have functionality for displaying home energy consumption? Or do devices I have only work as switches when added to the Ring system? Thanks.
Hi, I wanted to know if it was possible for you to connect a shelly that supplies power to a siren only when the alarm is armed and there is an actual intrusion of someone into the house Thanks
I know what is going on. Apparently because it's a third party device it does not know what you are using it for so it defaults to it not setting off the alarm when armed. To make it set off the alarm you will have to configure it in modes. There are two ways to do this: 1) Go to your ring app. Open the menu, go to settings, then modes and automations, then modes, Home or Away (depending on what you want to config), then go to sensors, and find your third party sensor and turn it on. The sensor will now sound the alarm when armed on the mode you configured. 2) Alternative method which is a bit more easy to understand. In your ring app, open your devices. Go to security and then find your sensor. Open your sensor and then mode settings. Then you can turn it on and off for home and away.
For most 3rd party devices, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. That said, I'm still getting a z-wave smoke alarm, so I get some kind of notification if it detects smoke in my house; particularly if I'm not actually at home.
Could I also add a z wave glass sensor from a third party company to my ring system (I guess it wouldn't help that much since it wouldn't notify anybody)? I don't understand why Ring does not offer real glass break sensors!
Have an old Piper system and the sensor will not connect via z wave let alone did I know this (tho wonder if alarm still won’t sound on third party sensors or if there’s been an update )
Can I add third party sensors and simply be notified by the app when they trigger? I understand they aren't trusted enough to sound the alarm or call anyone, but is there no configuration that will allow the app to just notify me? On an unrelated note, can Ring's contact sensor be activated by another contact sensor by wiring them together? My house has old contact sensors and glass break sensors hardwired down to an outdated security panel in the basement. It would be nice to reuse them since they are invisible, and even better if I could hook up several hardwired sensors to a single Ring sensor. That way I could just buy one Ring sensor for every clustered set of windows in the same room.
Absolutely. The ring sensors have magnetic reed switches. You would need to remove the reed switch from the Ring sensor circuit board and solder wires in, land those wires on a terminal strip and wire your existing switches to it. You need to verify the contact sensor states when they see open/close conditions. I do this with some Iris 1st gen contact sensors. Worst case is you have to use your old sensors with a relay.
October 2020 and Ring security system still will not allow any Z wave sensor to trigger the alarm system except for triggering the chime. Essentially the non Ring sensors are pretty much useless even after easy successful pairing with the Ring system. It deliberately blocks Zwave devices from triggering the alarm.
Some alarm systems allow sensors to be configured to trigger an alarm or just chime for off vs home vs away. Is there a config option to make the 3rd party z wave sensor trigger alarm. Just checking...
Jarod Miller No, but I did see on Ring’s site that while zwave sensors can be added, only ring certified devices will be used for security purposes. So that’s inline with what’s demo’d here. Ring just released support for a number of zwave smart locks. Hopefully they keep certifying more and more devices.
@@TechHiveVideo The First Alert Zcombo is approved and configures itself as two distinct devices (smoke and CO detectors), but they don't support the Zsmoke! Would everyone please haggle Ring to support the First Alert Zsmoke?
Well that's a deal-breaker. Wish I would have known that before I bought the starter package that came with two keypads ,3 contact sensors, and two motion sensors for 299.00. When I called there product support line, I did inquired before I purchased. I asked if I could use third-party zwave sensors the answer was yes. They sure didn't bother to let me know about the this major drawback . I was leaving Wink security I had setup. My thinking was that I was getting a better deal with a more simple security system. I have many Dome contact sensors and motion sensors already threw out my home and Shop. These little sensors are not cheap. I was hoping they would work until I had a chance to replace them with all ring sensors. I will now be taking this ring Security starter kit back to Best Buy now. Thank you ring. The way I see it if I buy your stuff with my money and pay for your monitoring service, then any sensor that is allowed to be configured with the system should work the same as one of your official sensors. So you're going to let me get robbed blind because I didn't use one of your official sensors, well that's a big middle finger to your customers. It is now obvious to me that all you are concerned with is how much money you can make off of your loyal customers . Shame on you. You know I was going to buy a lot more of your official sensors come payday that's okay I will look elsewhere now. I'll will now replace all 8 your cameras I have with Arlo or nest. I was also looking into buying 3 of your flood light cameras for my shop. Well you can keep those as well.
On their FAQ page, they said only Ring-certified Z-Wave products will be covered under the Ring Protect Plus plan. Bummer... support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001012546-Ring-Alarm-Devices-FAQ
That’s just fucking corporate greed! Obviously, the ring alarm system knows that the sensor is there and even knows how to use it. So it should know exactly what to do when it’s activated and the system is armed! It’s just ring wanting all your fucking money!
@@BukuiZhao at least Ring has that going for them that they just hide the functionality rather than immediately making it available. It's still corporate greed at it's finest, although Ring's contact sensor I think is the cheapest Z-Wave option on the market.
@@Techlifeandmore It's not corporate greed. Because you set up an external device it defaults to not triggering the alarm because it doesn't know what it is for. You just have to enable it manually and it won't take long for someone to find out.
Is this still an issue that it does not work? I'm looking at getting some glass break sensors and want to add them but not if they don't alarm. Great easy video to follow.
Thank you for taking the time to do the video
Ian
This was an excellent video. Thank you for the clarity. I have a whole bunch of sensors and no clue what to do with them.
Any clue if this has changed in the 4 years since you published this video? This is exactly what I’m trying to figure out.
Yes and no. In fact, not much has changed but the uploader of this video missed something. You can actually make the sensor sound the alarm by going to mode settings under your sensor.
That was actually important part. Because if you use one of the sensors and it doesn’t actually help you protect the home, then it’s rather useless. I will give it a try. Thank you again.
Have you added other z-wave devices? I'm particularly interested in plugs and switches with energy monitoring capabilities. Does Ring Alarm have functionality for displaying home energy consumption? Or do devices I have only work as switches when added to the Ring system? Thanks.
So am I
Hi, I wanted to know if it was possible for you to connect a shelly that supplies power to a siren only when the alarm is armed and there is an actual intrusion of someone into the house
Thanks
Great Video!! I was able to connect my Z-Wave garage door sensor to my Ring system within minutes!!! Thank you!!!👍
I know what is going on. Apparently because it's a third party device it does not know what you are using it for so it defaults to it not setting off the alarm when armed. To make it set off the alarm you will have to configure it in modes. There are two ways to do this:
1) Go to your ring app. Open the menu, go to settings, then modes and automations, then modes, Home or Away (depending on what you want to config), then go to sensors, and find your third party sensor and turn it on. The sensor will now sound the alarm when armed on the mode you configured.
2) Alternative method which is a bit more easy to understand. In your ring app, open your devices. Go to security and then find your sensor. Open your sensor and then mode settings. Then you can turn it on and off for home and away.
For most 3rd party devices, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. That said, I'm still getting a z-wave smoke alarm, so I get some kind of notification if it detects smoke in my house; particularly if I'm not actually at home.
Could I also add a z wave glass sensor from a third party company to my ring system (I guess it wouldn't help that much since it wouldn't notify anybody)? I don't understand why Ring does not offer real glass break sensors!
You could but it wouldn’t trigger the alarm
@@thetravellingairtags8316 It won't by default but you can make it trigger the alarm with a bunch of steps.
Ring has glass break sensors but if you want to add a third party one, to make it actually sound the alarm you will have to do it in modes.
Newer version lets you select which sensors are monitored, depending on Mode.
Have an old Piper system and the sensor will not connect via z wave let alone did I know this (tho wonder if alarm still won’t sound on third party sensors or if there’s been an update )
How close to the base does the item have to be?
Can I add third party sensors and simply be notified by the app when they trigger? I understand they aren't trusted enough to sound the alarm or call anyone, but is there no configuration that will allow the app to just notify me?
On an unrelated note, can Ring's contact sensor be activated by another contact sensor by wiring them together? My house has old contact sensors and glass break sensors hardwired down to an outdated security panel in the basement. It would be nice to reuse them since they are invisible, and even better if I could hook up several hardwired sensors to a single Ring sensor. That way I could just buy one Ring sensor for every clustered set of windows in the same room.
Absolutely. The ring sensors have magnetic reed switches. You would need to remove the reed switch from the Ring sensor circuit board and solder wires in, land those wires on a terminal strip and wire your existing switches to it. You need to verify the contact sensor states when they see open/close conditions. I do this with some Iris 1st gen contact sensors. Worst case is you have to use your old sensors with a relay.
Great video! I'd like to ask whether you can use third party z-wave sensors in alexa routines, just like you use official ring sensors. Thanks :-)
App appears different. There is no Secuity option and no manual option in the list that is available.
What about a Z-Wave garage door opener?
Looking forward to your review of the brand new Ring Stickup camera now that they have gone on sale this past month.
October 2020 and Ring security system still will not allow any Z wave sensor to trigger the alarm system except for triggering the chime. Essentially the non Ring sensors are pretty much useless even after easy successful pairing with the Ring system. It deliberately blocks Zwave devices from triggering the alarm.
No it does not, you have to configure it in modes.
Some alarm systems allow sensors to be configured to trigger an alarm or just chime for off vs home vs away. Is there a config option to make the 3rd party z wave sensor trigger alarm. Just checking...
enynite have you tried this?
Jarod Miller No, but I did see on Ring’s site that while zwave sensors can be added, only ring certified devices will be used for security purposes. So that’s inline with what’s demo’d here. Ring just released support for a number of zwave smart locks. Hopefully they keep certifying more and more devices.
You can make it sound the alarms by setting it in modes.
Any info on using GE Z-Wave (GE 14291) light switches and setting up automation. The claim is the alarm is a Hub. I can't find any info.
Mine won’t pair wirh ring at all. How did you set is up? As a sensor when pairing?
I'm looking for a z-wave light switch that will turn on interior lights when the alarm is activated. Is there anything available to do this? Thx
So it suffice to say, Ring selling a third part smoke/CO sensor will do the same?
If it's been approved by Ring then it will integrate into the system and alarm. Non-approved units won't trip the alarm.
@@TechHiveVideo The First Alert Zcombo is approved and configures itself as two distinct devices (smoke and CO detectors), but they don't support the Zsmoke! Would everyone please haggle Ring to support the First Alert Zsmoke?
Do you know if the ring system can turn on Philips hue lights if the alarm is set off?
I haven't been able to find a way to directly do that, although it might be possible through a third-party app like IFTTT.
Many thanks - saved me going to buy a smoke detector to see if it worked
It not working for me
Well that's a deal-breaker. Wish I would have known that before I bought the starter package that came with two keypads ,3 contact sensors, and two motion sensors for 299.00. When I called there product support line, I did inquired before I purchased. I asked if I could use third-party zwave sensors the answer was yes. They sure didn't bother to let me know about the this major drawback . I was leaving Wink security I had setup. My thinking was that I was getting a better deal with a more simple security system. I have many Dome contact sensors and motion sensors already threw out my home and Shop. These little sensors are not cheap. I was hoping they would work until I had a chance to replace them with all ring sensors. I will now be taking this ring Security starter kit back to Best Buy now. Thank you ring. The way I see it if I buy your stuff with my money and pay for your monitoring service, then any sensor that is allowed to be configured with the system should work the same as one of your official sensors. So you're going to let me get robbed blind because I didn't use one of your official sensors, well that's a big middle finger to your customers. It is now obvious to me that all you are concerned with is how much money you can make off of your loyal customers . Shame on you. You know I was going to buy a lot more of your official sensors come payday that's okay I will look elsewhere now. I'll will now replace all 8 your cameras I have with Arlo or nest. I was also looking into buying 3 of your flood light cameras for my shop. Well you can keep those as well.
with nowadays smart electronics products you NEED to do all your homework before you buy!! sorry to hear your situation
You just need to enable it in modes
This video is completely wrong, you have to go into the app and configure the sensor to be monitored in the armed away mode.
Tom Nope you know this for sure?
so it does work? I was thinking about getting smart things sensors since they are cheaper and have more functionality
On their FAQ page, they said only Ring-certified Z-Wave products will be covered under the Ring Protect Plus plan. Bummer... support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360001012546-Ring-Alarm-Devices-FAQ
@@tri.nguyen Nope, that is for the warranty.
Yes, I know this for sure.
That’s just fucking corporate greed! Obviously, the ring alarm system knows that the sensor is there and even knows how to use it. So it should know exactly what to do when it’s activated and the system is armed! It’s just ring wanting all your fucking money!
This video is wrong. Many people pointed out but you have to configure it in modes.
@@BukuiZhao at least Ring has that going for them that they just hide the functionality rather than immediately making it available. It's still corporate greed at it's finest, although Ring's contact sensor I think is the cheapest Z-Wave option on the market.
@@Techlifeandmore It's not corporate greed. Because you set up an external device it defaults to not triggering the alarm because it doesn't know what it is for. You just have to enable it manually and it won't take long for someone to find out.