Reviewing 'Quantum of Solace' - The Countdown to Bond 25
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- CINEMATIC 007 -- "Everything he touches seems to wither and die." The Countdown to 'No Time To Die' continues with a review of 'Quantum of Solace.'
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No matter what anyone says I like quantum of solace I don't why I like it I just like it
I have watched this film 3 times and still have no idea what the hell is actually going on.
Buy yourself a brain.
As someone who has trained in knife fighting and defensive tactics I must say I loved the hotel fight and stabbing the femoral artery was textbook great! Thank you for another great video guys!
Olga Kurylenko is the most beautiful Bondgirl in my opinion
Claudine Auger for me.
Anya Amasova(Barbara Bach).
Casino Royale is a great film because it's about James Bond. His caracther and his arc. Quantum is one of those Bond movies that try to reflect/follow whatever hollywood's trend of moment is.
Wrong, Quantum’s actually Casino Royale final coda, Bond doesn’t become Bond until the ending, when he finally avenges Vesper’s death and accepts his fate. That’s why Skyfall also works, because Bond is starting to get tired of his work as 007
@@charlespuruncajas9663 yeah, I see how Quantum can possibly be seen as a coda to Casino Royale and the "conclusion" of Vesper/Bond plot. However, I'd say it's an uncalled one. By the end of CR Bond has already learned his lesson and he is scarred for life with it. Also, Quantum tries and fails to build up a cinematic world everything is connected type of franchise. Which was, still is, Hollywood's trend and money grabber machine. There's also the Bourne syndrome. The way the movie is cut is very similiar to Bourne's. Which was the standart by the time as THE spy movie. That's why Quantum fails, as an action movie and as a Bond movie. And that's why I said Quantum is a product of its time (just like every Bond movie). There's also the writer's strike that affected the quality of the script. Like, a lot. Quantum is an enjoyable but forgetable action flick. At most.
I was disappointed when I saw it at the cinema. Then I bought it on blu ray and it started growing on me. Its visceral and brutal. I understand and accept the criticism levelled at this film but I still dig it.
I saw it in Seattle ... I wore khakis and a blue polo (lol). Ijjust walked to the cinema because I lived real close and actually saw an Aston Martin drive by, so i was like "Man, the universe aligned for this!" Then I saw the movie ...
This was the Craig Bond movie that made me really hate him as Bond. I couldn’t get past the terrible directorial flourishes Marc Forster did here. I honestly can’t stand those Bourne movies because they have a similar overly rough and tumbled appearance only more so and their plots are so vanilla. The only good thing they caused was for James Bond to reboot in a darker and grittier tone. Get away from that schlocky crap that Die Another Day did. I was afraid he was going to the Jason Bourne Bond. A complete disappointment after Casino Royale where he was more likable in the role and it made me yearn for Pierce Brosnan. Aside from Die, I enjoyed his other movies. Skyfall got me to warm to Daniel Craig as James Bond but I still had Quantum memories. Spectre cemented my love for him as James Bond. More so than Pierce actually. Quantum grew on me over time although I still don’t like those Bourne movies. November Man had the same Bourne-ness which was ironic because Pierce Brosnan starred in it. A huge inverse to his kid who never grew up Bond.
It is more watchable then people remember.
The ending is amazing hahahaha so good!
Zaritsky cool as ice & Scott is hilarious, what a legend! With the martini.
Did he have like 3 or 4 versions of "Being james bond, Vol 1" in the boot with him?? hahaha.
I like the Jefferson's theme song joke. That is brilliant!
I cracked up at that one. It almost reminded me of another RUclipsr who was saying the font for No Time To Die looked like the font used for The Love Boat. I cracked up at that one too. I think it was Critical Drinker.
This movie has grown on me, not as a spectacular Bond movie but I sort of just like tossing it on in the background. The action scenes are decent and you can sort of tune it out if you're doing something else. That is kind of a back handed compliment but for me there is value in those movies.
But one thing that always takes me right out of the movie and it happens so early is when Bond delivers White and he's like "We thought you were listening on our phone calls, but turns out you don't know who we are" which apparently he's just learning this...but then they have had at least one mole in MI6 the whole time!??! Wat.
Call me crazy, but I always liked this film.
I call you intelligent.
I used to HATE this movie and cast it aside like it didn't exist. I've recently watched it twice in the same week and although it's heavily flawed, I think it's actually a great movie. I think once you understand where the film makers were coming from with it, it's a really good ride.
You're not crazy. Its in my top 10 Bond films.
@@martam4142 I call you rude
This is in my top 10 as well. Personally I always thought the plot was very interesting and felt realistic.
I remember leaving the theater confused and a little disappointed but on rewatch it holds up better imo
Another great video. Interesting and valid points made all around. I got to say this, thank you guys, Being James Bond and The Bond experience, for providing the Bond fans for so much great entertaining content over the past few years. Joe, I did not discover your channel until last summer during on the Connery era reviews, but I have enjoyed these reviews and specials. I love the crossing over from channel to channel. Great discussions and comedy are always in supply. Your channel, David's channel, and even James Bond Radio have gotten me though many hours of work at the office and through graduate school assignments. Now more than ever are these videos needed in the fandom. Keep up the great work guys.
Positives.. 1) It has arguably David Arnold's most interesting and musically sophisticated score.. 2) the production design is quite good in places.. 3) the Camille character actually has some depth and is the only leading lady in the series that doesn't shag Bond making her unique.. 4) the interplay between Mathis and Bond is quite good and the mentor theme had never been explored before as far as I'm aware. I like it and it builds Bonds character to lose a mentor. Craigs Bond is about loss fundamentally. It features throughout all his films. 5) the mysterious organisation idea was interesting at the time and was something that hadn't featured in the series for decades and was something i'd been waiting for. Shame it couldn't have been "Spectre" really.
Negatives.. 1) Martin Campbell declined the invitation to return.. 2) The writers didn't have Fleming as a source (one of the reasons Casino is decent).. 3) the structure of the story is horribly flawed.. 4) a lot of the characters motivations don't make sense, aren't really explained or are just lazy writing.. 5) they didn't realise at this point how Mendez was gonna retro fit Craig's Bond in Skyfall which doesn't help Quantum's MI6 stuff.. 6) the title song is a mess (and I'm actually into that style) its confused structure actually mirror the film itself, weirdly.. 7) the script is mostly poor apart from a few interesting moments. The producers always seem to leave the script late which baffles me. I could go on but you're probably bored by now...
Airdog fight was pretty good in my opinion as there wasn't much shaky cam in that scene but it was ruined by that fake parachute jump. Film had great potential from opening car chase to rooftop and Bell tower chase, opera sequence, the whole desert ending.Overall a very rewatchabale bond film, Craig and Olga gave a decent performance.
They should never use CGI in a Bond film. Period. Also, love the Dalton avatar! He might be my favorite. Would have loved to have seen him in GoldenEye
I know I'm the broken record here but regressing back to the Walther PPK after an excellent movie where he carried the P99 was just heartbreaking.
And if we talk Skyfall he regressed even further by carrying a PPK with an unloaded chamber. There were 2 or 3 scenes of him cocking the PPK.
Both are beautiful guns but the p99 is more of a compact/full rather than a subcompact. Unfortunately there weren’t a whole lotta sexy subcompacts especially back then.
There wasn't a lot to QoS, just brutal, gritty action. And that's why I like it. Also, it's Daniel's best fashion film as Bond
Before the shrunken suit phase, lol
This is 1 out of 2 Bond films I saw in the theater...not in love with the intro theme, but in retrospect, a really decent 007 outing. QoS>Spectre
Fantastic channel, and I mostly agree with all your reviews... QOS left me feeling very disappointed especially after CR. Thanks for doing these with Scott. Huge Bond fan here, watching every one with my Dad before he passed right after QOS. Thanks guys.
You said it! Quantum is an example of Hollywood learning the wrong lessons from a wonderful previous film proceeding into a dreary sequel.
This is what you get when a film is rushed, the script is nowhere near done, and the wrong director is chosen. It's a shame as there was a good story to tell. I've always said that Mathis should have had the dialogue from the short story to make the title work, so I completely agree. The cast is pretty good, given what they had to work with. I've always thought that Greene was like one of those Spectre agents sitting around the table in Thunderball made into a main villain. Whenever I watch this and I hear the organization referred to as Quantum, I just say Spectre. The whole thing is a missed opportunity. I think you guys forgot Elvis...oh yeah, it's easy to do that.
Olga Kurylenko was a great Bond Girl...and the highlight of this movie.
Not one mention of Green's henchman, Elvis ! Shame on you guys.
Gotta love Elvis!
I love this movie. I don't know why they talk about this movie so badly. perhaps because casino royale was incredible.
Because this was a solid JASON BOURNE MOVIE
Not a James Bonmd Movie
u love this movie, because ur a huge Daniel Craig fan
I prefer quantum of solace to all other bond films
Its grown on me quite a bit. I rank it 10/24.
its better than Spectre for sure
It is a better bond than Skyfall, which felt like a cheap remake of the Dark Knight. Craig should not have had such a big “age” change. He just started out in Casino and Quantum, and in the third movie he is already old news? Where were all the missions that led to that point? Spectre at least ties into the first two movies. Skyfall just feels like an odd movie out, and not much better than an “Angel has fallen,” made for TV movie. Feel free to disagree.
True!
Love the ending
This is imagination porn: switching the villains in QOS n Spectre. The guy that plays Dominic Greene looks like Blofeld and is a great actor. N imagine Christopher Waltz playing a Spanish businessman. He could pull off a bitter middle aged man devious enough to sell water.
The first “art house” 007 film and hopefully the last. Yeah, there’s some good things (production design, a well done fight sequence) but with a huge budget that’s to be expected. The only Bond film I’ve only seen once in a theater and for good reason. The best way to describe “Quantum” is that it’s an extended ending to “Casino” which was wisely edited out. Nice review guys you covered all bases.
There really is no such thing as "art house". That's just one of those obnoxious movie industry nouns that are used to push films that may or may not have artistic value.
I hate that, for such an expensive movie, you never 'see the money on the screen' as Broccoli once said.
I love the Austria scene at the opera excellent location. Love the modern look and feel of this film and expect this one to age better than Craig's other films.
The most Germanic Bond film. The director a German.
I've never thought this movie is as bad everybody thinks. Yes, the opening sequence is a bit too harried, but overall it's not a great Bond but it's OK. Yes, basically it is a coda to Casino Royale. Also, I've always thought that one of the qualities of a great piece of media art (a piece of music, a movie) is that it properly survives repeated listens/viewing because you notice something you didn't before.
Nice Thursday night surprise. Cheers for this guys.
Now that Craig has more variety in Bond movies, I can enjoy this one on a continuation of Casino Royale level. It doesn’t work well as it’s own movie and isn’t anywhere perfect but I now find it rather entertaining. I do find the villain scheme as idiotic as I did when I first saw it. I mean holding Bolivia’s water supply hostage to nickel and dime it back to the populace ? How stupid! It was also made to seem convoluted but it wasn’t really. The oil scheme was just a ruse to hide their real intent although frankly oil would’ve been more valuable than water. It’s better than the even more asinine plot of TND where Carver was going to start a war to sell newspapers and increase his network ratings and gain exclusive broadcasting rights in China for the next 100 years but not by much franky. At least with TND it’s more of a satire. The action scenes are alright here and i have grown to enjoy the visceral feeling they have from the quick cut editing style. But honestly Skyfall feels more like a true sequel and Spectre feels like a continuation to Skyfall and the lead in to another movie. Quantum is a feature length tag scene. Love the ending though. Almost like a bookend to the opening in Casino Royale except filmed in color. Thought that was really clever. It was also great to see Bond grow as a character. He didn’t kill Vespers ex lover which was commendable in stark contrast to how he killed people left to right before being he wasn’t a refined blunt instrument yet. The score was great and had an awesome edgy sound to it which suited the edgy feeling of the movie perfectly. David Arnold went out really well. Underrated as a movie for sure. It’s also paced really well which is great. It moves very quickly. I loved Casino Royale but felt there were areas where it dragged. Most notably the big poker game at Casino Royale . I don’t know anything about poker so those scenes always fly over my head.
2008: I'd settled into what is still my home city by this point, made some friends, enough to watch this film with.
I remember the buildup to this film for a ton of different themetunes people made for this film that wound up on RUclips...a lot of them were very good. Having said that...I still actually like "Another WAy to Die".
The film itself well...my memories of seeing it in the cinema are pretty vague...I hadn't rewatched it since prior to just now. My impression was "solid, but not quite as good as Casino Royale".
So...boy was there a lot of stuff I'd just plain forgotten prior to this.
1. The jumping between the hose race and the interrogation...I felt that was sort of symbolism of how MI6 were doing this under the noses of Joe Average...at least I think that was the idea...it wasn't really neccersary.
2. Mathis...I get what they were trying to do here...with Bond having gone rogue(again...)he needed an ally just to get himself to La Paz...it might as well me a familiar face...Vespa was going to come up...the rest you guys covered. Did they need to throw him in the dumpster? No but the character was useful.
3. Action I generally liked. Plot wasn't that bad...though why they felt they had to pick up where Casino left off I'm not sure...it's not something they've done before or since...
Solid late 00s action film but not a classic...the film's attitude towards the CIA made me suspect somehone had watched Spooks too many times. 7/10 though. If you like Casino Royale...you'll like this...just not as much.
Yeah, for some nutty reason, the MI5 Agents on Spooks don't seem to like the CIA very much.
Interesting takes, I agree that the plot isn't exactly the strongest and the writing is a bit clunky but I don't necessarily agree with the critique of the pace and chaos of the movie. The action scenes are hard to follow but I believe that is the point. I am glad not all Bond films are this way but the way in which they are able to capture the confusion of battle is pretty awesome. I understand that it doesn't flow all that well from the end of Casino but putting that aside I love the way in which the capture the frantic pace and confusion. All that being said, I realllllllly do not want this to be a norm in Bond movies. I prefer the fantasy/ romantic aspect of Bond. The character is not Borne and should not be confused as such. Lastly, the more people hate on this one I feel the need to defend it, I'm not sure why as I'm typically not a contrarian but with this movie I think it gets unduly critiqued due to Casino being loved and this being such a departure.
This movie I saw at my local cinema and it was literally unwatchable. The PTS was edited so badly I felt seasick!!! Terrible film. By far one of the worst Bond films. Rubbish villain and quite frankly dull dull dull. When you consider Casino Royale was a triumph and this movie was the sequel it simply not good enough. Should have filmed the two movies at the same time such as The Lord Of The Rings were filmed. Then the superb feel and style of direction would have been maintained.
This movie really does suck. Thank God it wasn’t Daniel Craig’s last Bond movie. I’ve only recently begun to come around to it because Daniel Craig has a good amount of films and Quantum was revealed to be a front for Spectre. It made them more interesting. Compare that to knowing practically nothing about them.
Great review but you guys forgot to mention Jeffrey Wright as Felix he did good as well!!
How can you forget Felix.
Did you talk about the music of this film? The theme song was mentioned, but the soundtrack by David Arnold (his last to date) was not discussed! I've heard a lot of the background music from Quantum in your recent videos, so apparently you like the score. If you ask me, the soundtrack is the best part of the movie. There are some great musical themes in this, like the one from the opera, or the one from Bolivia desert, and even the End credits theme is great. So yes, I think David Arnold did a good job with the score!
The ending is the best!🤣🤣🤣
Well shaken martini is always something good to end on!
Darth Decius Scott’s all wet but his martini is still dry
Okay, help me out here. I’ve always assumed Solace starts minutes after Royale; Bond puts a Mr. White in the boot/ trunk of the car and off they go. If this is correct why is Bond wearing something completely different at the start of Solace? Or am I just wrong about the continuity?
Yeah he's wearing something different it's a continuity error I think you're just supposed to go with it.
RighteousBrother cheers. It’s been doing my head in for years lol.
It's a continuity error because the suits were provided by a different designer.
What's worse: Bond seemes to have been transporting Mr. White for a couple of years: it was 2008 when they finally arrived to Sierra.
@@Zholobov1 Roadworks in Italy is a nightmare!
Afraid I totally disagree with the commentary - Bond is hurting and this is a healing movie, surprised such self proclaimed fans can be so critical
Great analysis about QOS but Spectre was a great in its own right, not perfect but great. None of them are perfect. I mean, look at that death of 007 that would follow Spectre if you want to talk about retcon.
Catching up on this and I agree with Joe about the weird trailer vs. film editing of the Slate/Haiti fight. The choreography is great but for some reason the trailer did a better job showing the action. Like, I love the final fight with Greene for the staging and the way it allows Greene to go toe to toe with Bond, but maaaaan. Even the trailer had the Bond kicking him moment look better than the theatrical cut.
Marc forester was not the right director for this, he just doesn't understand action!
He doesn't understand a lot.
and a shakespearian Director does?
He's a art-house director ... the boat chase, air chase, land chase, and the hotel fight were all supposed to represent the 4 classic elements of Earth, Wind, Water, Fire. I saw that because Forester says that in a behind-the-scenes. Ugh
@@ammosophobia "Art House" is a nothing label just like "indy".
I always laugh at the Marc Forster interviews for QoS, because it seems like he's a big fan Captain Planet when mentioning ”Earth, Fire, Wind, Water”.
I dont know why but i hate Daniel Craig and can barely stand 10 minutes of his movies, but my favorite is Dalton who is said to be most like Craig?
This is my #1 denial Craig movie Next to CR both movies especially this one feels like Miami vice. The style The heat and the action.
Heat! That’s a great word for it!
The mess with the script was much the same with Tomorrow Never Dies. It was hurried into production as well to capitalize on its successor without a proper script although the script here was definitely better. It seems to be a pattern of the second movies, except From Russia With Love. You can say they’re the terrible twos. Would probably be a great video discussion. Discussing how the second movies each actor does are usually rushed and flawed. The one for Tomorrow felt more in tune for a video game while Quantum felt more like a proper movie script, albeit not as great as Casino or Skyfall. The production was about as troubled as Tomorrow only they managed to pull through this one versus how with Tomorrow they kept having issue after issue problem after problem fight after fight. Considering what happened behind the scenes of this one, it turned out alright and it was wise making it shorter versus how they stretchd out Tomorrow unnecessarily considering it’s weaker second half. The half that leads to it being known as the big action scene Bond movie.
Quantum gets better with age while Skyfall gets worse.
Certainly.
Quantum needed to be a revenge movie. Unfortunately, that's all it is.
Actually, the underground lake in the desert is perfectly feasible
I give this Bond review a *10* - You guys are spot on ;- )
Why would a super spy parachute into a big hole, surely he would find a less perilous landing spot.
Unfortunately, this may be my least favourite Bond movie. I did not like it when I saw it in cinemas. I rewatched it recently after hearing quite a few people defend and champion the movie. So I went back into it open minded and looking forward to it. Regrettably though, I enjoyed it even less and seriously considering turning it off on a number of occasion. I do understand why people like it and what it is that appeals to them about it. I wish I could join the party so to speak but at the end of the day, I simply don't enjoy watching the film and can't get engaged with the plot, I'm sorry.
Yet he gave Moonraker 2 ?
Pre credits sequence is one of the best in the series.
Actually hated this for years but it has grown on me now. Granted u have to watch it directly after Casino Royale for it too work as its all over the place. A bad Bond film though.
I love this discussion gentlemen. Well done once again! That said, Quantum of Solace is my least favorite Bond Film. Die Another Day is right above it, and this is because I liked the first third of it up until Bond goes to Cuba meeting his operative. I agree about Craig & Kurylenko’s performance, the fashion and most of the opera scene. Otherwise, this is a jumbled mess dramatically. It always feels like it doesn’t want to embrace all that is Bond, in favor of some pseudo-esoteric stylistic choices.
I liked this film when it came out more than Casino Royale. But it just hasn’t held up. Plus it’s super violent for no reason. It’s almost like a super expensive b movie.
QoS brings nothing original to the table. Every aspect has been seen and done before earlier in the franchise. Car chase, boat chase, plane chase etc etc. The Siena footchase is simply a rehash of the chase at the beginning of Casino Royale. Fields death smeared in oil can of course be interpreted as homage but there's a fine line between homage and simply running out of ideas. I could go on. You fellas are right to point to the pacing and the editing. Add to that an average villain, drab dry locations, unremarkable Bond girls and an awful theme song - perhaps the worst in the entire franchise (though I actually found the score to be the most pleasant on the ears of all Arnold's efforts). QoS does though have some strong moments - the opera scene and the pragmatism of Bond's escape from M at the hotel were both great and the final confrontation with Vesper's Algerian ex at the end was a nice touch to close the circle on his deception. These few highlights are enough to keep QoS above the likes of DAF, Octopussy (sorryJoe - I know you're a fan) and DAD which for me remain candidates for the worst of all the Eon releases. QoS though remains Craig's weakest Bond outing to date. 6 out of 10.
Ironically, the opera scene is my least favorite part of the movie, mainly due to having the worst editing in the whole movie with the action scene. At least put sound so I can guess what’s happening
The nadir of this entire series. Bond is nothing more than a killing automaton, the action is cut in a totally incomprehensible style, a total non-entity of a villain who aims even lower than Koskov in The Living Daylights, and every Bond girl has the sexual appeal of a dead fish. Say what you want about Diamonds are Forever and Moonraker but those films had a charm and warmth to them. This movie was just...well...bull shit.
Absolutely agree.
Pale terminator with less humanity.
Always a risk with Craig as the star. Needs a good script and a director who understands that the Bond movie franchise needs charm and humour as well as blunt violence.
@@tobyhart8515
Look at this ad for the VHS collection. Everything that makes this series distinctive is advertised in this film. The girls, the gadgets, the colourful villains, the humor, and the stylish action sequences are exhibited to great effect. You know you're getting the genuine article.
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By comparison, look at this ad for the Blu Ray collection. The action is there and so are the women but that's all. Where is the other stuff that makes this conspicuous ? Even light hearted, campy escapades such as Diamonds Are Forever and Octopussy are being advertised as straight action films. Unfortunately, given the #MeToo movement and this Double-00 female crap, I am sure the marketing department will eventually edit a new trailer that won't even feature the women.
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You could call this one “Waterfinger”
Quantum of Boredom.
It’s a good film but the fast action ruins the film. It’s better than spectre
Excellent acting by Daniel Craig but the story could have been a lot better.
Hi I recommend an indie rock song Called 'The Bond Villain' by Robert Nix
Quantum Of Solace was meant to be an in your face gritty continuation for Bond therein lies the realization that it needed to be an in your face notion that Bond is on a mission to be forthright that he is wanting answers! This film has a lot of character charisma in my opinion!! I think Craig took the character to the extreme that it needed to be takin toward for the continued direction that was left from Casino Royale and there was plenty of excitement that you need from a solid Bond film!! Remember no follow up to a classic has never ever been successfully achieved since ''The Empire Strikes Back'''So try not to be so hard on Quantum Of Solace ...This still stands as a good Bond film overall and by no means is it a bad Bond film!! I really had a good time with the character of Bond in this installment!!!!
My #1 denial Craig movie. I love it.
Crap film
Thanks again Joe and Scott, another great review!!! Like highly crafted surgeons, cutting away through the sinue.
Looking forward to you both doing reviews of Skyfall and Spectre in the future, keep up the great work and thanks to you both
I've been waiting for this one! Quantum of Solace is, in my opinion, easily the worst James Bond movie of all-time. It's even worse than Die Another Day and Never Say Never Again for me. Quantum is a totally joyless movie. This movie is absolutely zero fun to watch at all. It's a boring, dreary, souless movie that lacks literally every element that makes James Bond James Bond. I remember the first time I saw Quantum, in Leicester Square in London at the Odeon theater in 2008, and the ending played the Bond theme, and I suddenly remembered "Oh, yeah, this is a James Bond movie" because it never felt like a James Bond movie. Quantum is the only Bond film I don't like. Even Die Another Day, for all its faults, is fun to watch. Quantum has NOTHING enjoyable about it at all. I actually dislike a James Bond movie for once. If all the series was like Quantum, I wouldn't be a James Bond fan.
You don't have a clue.
I actually like Daniel Craig as Bond, but this movie is shite 😂….The plot is so convoluted and uninteresting…The main villain was so bad…Not threatening in the slightest….The action scenes with the General looked good, but it gave me cheesy 80’s Rambo vibes….I mean, trying to corner the market on water…Really? 😂
Except I enjoyed watching Last Jedi and I don't enjoy this. In fact I hate it more each time I see it. And for such a short film, it's long AF!
It's ironic and telling that QoS is only about 90 min and edited quick but feels like 2+ hours. It shows contradictory direction. I don't think the second unit was in synch.
Spot on review, it's like they made a trailer then had to think of a film to match it. Extremely poor.
The hate for this film has never made any sense to me. Flawed, yes but at least the film is doing something different. It feels much more grounded than most Bond films. The world is not at stake. There is no madman trying to blow up the world while his minions await under the sea or in outer space. It's simple corruption that is at stake.
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I also appreciate the cynicism on display here. This movie feels like it would be apocryphal to Ian Fleming and embraced by the likes of John le Carré and Graham Greene. It's the film out of the Craig films that I've re-watched the most and I always enjoy every bit of it.
The criticisms of this movie always feel so technical and these guys make fair points in that regard but it never detracted from my enjoyment of the movie as a whole.
I mean no offense to those who don't like it. Just a difference of opinion and that's fair enough.
Diamonds are Forever is a direct sequel to OHMSS as bond seeks Bloefeld after the murder of Tracey - it's less obvious with the change of actor
By direct sequel they mean chronologically as QoS picks up minutes after CR
Great review of a terrible movie, the next one will make up for it!
This was not a terrible Bond Film!!
@@williamg.655 DAD is
@@ammosophobia I actually am one of those that enjoy Die Another Day!!
Spectre, Die Another Day are at the bottom, this wasn’t bad, just choppy and pale in comparison to Casino Royale
While I would have liked the film to take its time, and not emulate the Bourne style completely, this is my second favorite Bond. I love it's energy, it's grit, and how ballsy it was to make a film as different to Casino as Casino was to what came before.
It should have been better - that Opera scene was a missed opportunity that Mission Impossible 5 fulfilled - and some of the characters get short changed, but I really felt between this and Casino, Bond had been successfully reinvented for the modern age. Then the Mendes films happened and, while I love Skyfall, they retreated back to comfort and leave these films as an interesting road not traveled. Ah well.
My name is Bourne Jason Bourne whoops wrong film
Loved this movie!
Ah yes, Quantum of Shit. Bond for the Zoomer generation. The one where James committed suicide by editing.
Together with A View to a Kill, this film, sadly, has the unenviable distinction of being part of what I'd like to call the "Satanic Category"...
I've watched most Bond films more times than I can count. Even the bad ones. But this one I've only watched once.
"You only watch it once....or so it seems..."
And whenever a friend suggests putting it on, my reaction is always: "You take that damn thing away from me!!".
The worst Bond film ever ... with the worst song ever and a pretty bad title. And to think that the mysterious organisation is just named "Quantum" to justify this title ...
Utter shit. A film made by a director and writing team who get their kicks by crapping on an established and beloved series for the thrill of it. In the most literal sense, this film is unwatchable. Having said that I don't have a particular problem with the song, though it's particularly ironic that this is the one title sequence not to include water themes given the whole plot concerns it.
He dumped him in the trash and took his money. I’ve never seen James Bond steal money. That scene has more to it... idk. He’s run past millions of dollars/pounds and billions of fully loaded guns. All a sudden he’s an opportunist??? I hated that part.
That is true what you said but remember this Bond is not the same Bond or has the same experience that we seen from Dr. No threw Die Another Day.
His credit cards had been cancelled.
Bad Editing, Casting, Music, Sets, Characters and Story. Basically.... the most unwatchable Official Bond movie. Heck I have the unofficial entry with Connery is higher on my list.
Yawn.
Honestly The Worst Bond Film Ever really Die Another Day and SPECTRE is actually a lot better than This Crap everything from the Beginning to End I even hate the Song ( no knock on Jack White and Alicia Keys BTW)this is Pure Crap!!!! Really I agree with Joe The Last Jedi of the Bond Films
The editing is the worst of the whole series.
Just another Bourne movie and not as good as the first 3.
Bourne is s*it.
The fast editing of the action scenes was such a turnoff. Assuming they didn't throw away the raw film somebody should edit this again.
And yes, water in the desert of a poor country is not much of an evil villain plot. Sounds like a henchman of Dr. Evil made tat up.
That water plot was so stupid. Quantum was going to profit off poor people how? So lame.
@@Gamingnstuff131 actually it’s not so far from reality (the president of Nestle suggested privatization of public water reservoirs)
There’s something alien about Quantum of Solace. No one really feels human, save for maybe a Mathis or Mr White. It’s an empty, soulless, ugly film. And even at close to 90 minutes it moves like a snail in molasses.
This is exactly how I felt about it. Every character feels like they are 96% human. It's obviously the terrible writing and directing. How can you make the great Judi Dench even come across as some form of replicant?
It’s what I hate about those Jason Bourne movies. Only good thing they caused was getting the Bond series to head back to it’s roots and get away from cheesy balls to the wall action movies where the action and effects take precedence over the story as opposed to how it should be the opposite as they do with the Daniel Craig movies.
My personal Worst Bond Movie:
Die Antoher Day and Spectre had at least MEMORABLE stuff, this was Bland as F
Die Another Day is certainly my least favorite, and downright the worst Bond movie. I think the only scene I like is the sword fight (which is a flawed scene for sure) because it ratchets up to over-the-top and then some. Then again, 50% of the appeal was the Arnold score.
This had enough for me to remember but it’s not even close to the worst one in my personal rankings. It’s an alright movie but is hampered by bad direction. Die was an absolute low and what sticks out in for me are the bad parts. Very little of the few good parts it had stick out in my memory.
Universal Exports I can’t stand that one. It baffles me how people still defend it. It’s the biggest dumpster fire in the series. The Batman And Robin of the series more interested in effects, lame puns and selling things than telling an interesting story or being the best movie it can be. The dialogue was almost entirely one liners. Tomorrow had a similar flaw but that one has great action scenes and it doesn’t look almost totally fake. Die looks like it’s almost totally a studio job rather than an on location job with some studio work. Lee Tamahori was far worse a director than Marc Forster and practically everything he did with Die was gimmicky and misguided. I’d take more visceral editing over bad motion blur and fast motion and those awful shots that look like someone is fast forwarding the movie.
Best movie.
Never say never again; a view to kill !" Worst James bond movies 🎬
I'm surprised no one mentioned the scene with the extra sweeping without touching the floor haha!! you guys are awesome btw! keep up the good work!! I can't wait for skyfall!!
I Haiti almost everything about this movie.
Seizure inducing action set pieces, free from any sense of Bond heritage, and devoid of any wit, charm, elegance and romance.
Lacks almost any sense of Britishness too which is the one quintessential element that separates Bond from the competitors.
Marc Foster seems to have been infected by a Tony Scott-esque editing plague , usurping any sense of scale and occasion for what he thinks is visceral energy. The CGI on the boat is just plain awful. Ironically the action ends up feeling far less real and credible than any normal set piece.
The script is very poor., lacking both a spine and a heart. Can't place all the blame on the writers though, as I sense a lot of cut and paste and very little insight. Feels like a high school student writing what they think seems dark.
I suspect Craig and co rewrote this on the hoof.
The typography is off brand and inconsistent.
The one other key element lacking is Bond ism. No gun barrel. No use of theme music. No great score. No humour. No romance . No Q and field gadgets. Nothing.
That's a pretty coherent critique. In defence of the score.. It's difficult to be great when what you're scoring isn't.
Typography inconsistent? If you're referring to the place names for each location. Each one is tailored so it fits in with that specific location. As for Craig and the script the movie had an immovable end date, there was a writers strike so no writers could contribute, so he stepped up to the plate.
@@RighteousBrother That typography was a mistake. That's something that is better suited for a tv show.
@@RighteousBrother I figured what they were trying to do, I just don't think it works. The movie has no clear vision, like a badly planned school project trying every trick. What's your favorite Bond movie BTW?
@@RighteousBrother I know about the strike and I'm not having a go at Craig, screenwriting is tough. But writers are writers for a reason, it's damn difficult. You wouldn't ask a writer to do a scene as 007 for one part of the film, and the same principle applies to writers.
Quantum Of Solace has been called "The Bond Identity" and it fits. It has the same rapid-fire editing of the Bourne films due to Richard Pearson. I like QOS because I like the (first three) Bourne films, but I wish it had more of the old-school Bond trademarks like gadgets and humour. Still, I'll take the lean-and-mean QOS over the bloated Spectre any day.
I feel like the movie industry learned all of the wrong lessons from the Bourne movies.
Casino Royale had some of the Bourne elements but it doesn't distract from still feeling like a 007 movie, QOS went overboard with that plus the story was lacking and characters too
You should make a top 10 Bond allies list. No other Bond podcaster enjoys/references these characters as much as you and I've never even seen a list of this type before. Mathis, Kerim Bey, Columbo, etc
I wished it was Camille coming back for No Time to Die rather than Madeline Swann.
Talk about slim pickings.
Camille is my choice for a spinoff. She a strong woman , Yes she has flaws but she over comes them. Olga Kurylenko is a great actress and has done a great job as the lead in films like Momentum and The Assassin Next Door.
I wish Spectre never existed, it almost ruined the previous three.
Am I the only person who loves this film? Yes it has some flaws but I just don't get the hate.
Steven Morton I love Quantum Of Solace because it's like the Jason Bourne films - which is also why QOS is hated.
It's a horrible movie. Writers strike or not you have to judge the final product. And the movie is both boring and yet simultaneously very tedious and complex. The absolute worst thing a movie can be is boring
I love it too.
Marc Foster said in an interview that he aimed at turning Bond into an arthouse film and let the explosions take care of its commercial performance. And I fucking love the man for doing that. He basically pulled a fast one over on the producers and the audience and gave them a taste of something more profound than they were prepared for.
I love this film as well. To me this movie feels like Miami Vice
People don't understand how to watch this movie. You cannot watch this as a stand alone bond film. You have to watch it in the context of Casino Royale. Additionally, the film pays homage to bonds of the past with Goldfinger and The Spy Who Loved Me motifs. If you are a true Bond fan you will see them a mile away. Bottom line. This field is very underrated.
My feelings toward this one improved by watching it immediately after CR, but I still rank it overall fairly low among all the films. My issues with it revolve around more technical/pacing aspects than general plot or acting. The rapid editing hurt my eyes during some of the action scenes and it really blows through a lot of plot in a really short amount of time. If it took some more time to breathe and relaxed the nausea-inducing shaky cam during the action scenes I might've ranked it more favorably.
@@skakirask I agree 100%. I like it better now I have watched it not long after CR. I also agree with you on the editing, it hurt my eyes also. I just wanted it to end. The fight that Bond has with someone near the start on some scaffolding looked like a really good fight scene. But I couldn't enjoy it as I couldn't get my bearings on who was where in relation to this platform or each other. Bang on right about the plot aswell. Too rushed and too fast paced. You can't stop and take anything in.
I didn't like Casino Royale so watching it first would not have improved my opinion of Quantum of Boredom.
@@glenbard657 how can you dislike casino royale??
Kinda, but not really as when it was released, it was released as a stand alone movie. The trailers didnt say "watch casino royale just before hand". I see what youre saying but tbh if it isnt a stand alone movie, then they shouldnt have charged full ticket price if youd already paid to see casino XD
Counter-point: I prefer watching QOS to SF.
I think the action in QOS is better than SF and I find SF to be all style and no substance.
I hate this piece of shit movie. Riddled with plot holes, pathetic villains and atrociously edited action sequences.
I have to say, many deserts have large underground aquifers. I agree this is a boring plot detail, but it's at least accurate. Also, at the time, there was a lot of political concern over access to water being a potential cause of future large-scale conflicts (similar to oil has been).
A few years after Quantum Of Solace was released, Dick Wolf decided to make the plight of the Bolivian peasants and their water shortage problems a plot point on an episode of Law and Order Special Victims Unit. I remember thinking "whoever wrote this episode must have watched Quantum Of Solace!"
Another Way To Die features a few bars from the OHMSS theme. I have never read this anywhere or heard anyone mention it. Am I the only person that has noticed this musical Easter egg?